Jim Cornette on If Hogan vs. Austin Is The Biggest Match To Never Have Happened

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  • @Carvercity96
    @Carvercity96 5 днів тому +972

    The biggest match to never happen is Jim Cornette vs Vince Russo

    • @seangalvin4582
      @seangalvin4582 5 днів тому +14

      Prior too AEW shiting the bed, I wonder if Tony Khan ever considered booking this in one form or another. Maybe as managers of two avatars. It's the type of thing that only pretty hardcore wrestling fans would understand the significance of. That's the type of thing he would make the main event. We know he meet with Cornette early on. I wouldn't be shocked to find out he spoke with Russo as well.

    • @Eva_H
      @Eva_H 5 днів тому +13

      Parking lot brawl 😜🤣

    • @rickrosas726
      @rickrosas726 5 днів тому +18

      Survivor series elimination match
      Team Cornette vs team Russo

    • @ST1TCH916
      @ST1TCH916 5 днів тому +7

      ​​@@seangalvin4582He tried to hire him before the bucks and all, but i doubt Tony Klown has that kind of foresight or mind

    • @time4sumaksion203
      @time4sumaksion203 5 днів тому +15

      With a tennis racket on a pole bro

  • @HessenUK
    @HessenUK 5 днів тому +517

    Prime Taker vs Prime Sting wouldn't have been a great match, but it would have sold a ton of tickets.

    • @adamlennard1828
      @adamlennard1828 5 днів тому +49

      I don’t know if it wouldn’t have been great prime Taker in ring was as good as anyone.

    • @dustin6528
      @dustin6528 5 днів тому +46

      Surfer Sting vs Heel Shawn for match quality

    • @GrammKracker
      @GrammKracker 5 днів тому +25

      I think Goldberg Austin could have been the biggest match in history of done properly and at the right time

    • @Justin-bo5pg
      @Justin-bo5pg 5 днів тому +17

      I think both of them in their Primes it would be great. Sting in 93/94/95 was on fire in the ring. Taker working with a guy built like that, with Stings intensity and athleticism would be great. Sting could fly around for him and Sting was impactful enough with the drop kicks and coming off the top and doing dives that Taker could show vulnerability.

    • @iancharest7655
      @iancharest7655 5 днів тому +11

      This right here, at Wrestlemania. Have Sting break the streak, instead of tossing it out to Lesnar.

  • @breng121
    @breng121 5 днів тому +404

    Kurt Angle Bret Hart would be mine.

    • @Immortalangel14
      @Immortalangel14 5 днів тому +10

      They would have had to both been active at the same time. Kurt debuted in wwf in December 99, bret suffered the concussion the same month then retired shortly after. 😢

    • @j_mad
      @j_mad 5 днів тому +18

      ​@Immortalangel14 wwf tried to sign kurt in 96 and 97 too bad they didnt 😢
      Could u imagine the Canada vs USA? Kurt would have been the biggest baby face ever.

    • @breng121
      @breng121 5 днів тому +7

      @j_mad I think the amateur vs pro wrestler technician would have been better. Have Kurt as heel running down the training they did in the dungeon saying he is the real best there is etc.

    • @breng121
      @breng121 5 днів тому

      US vs Canada has been done too many times.

    • @ThePhenomenalAce__
      @ThePhenomenalAce__ 5 днів тому +1

      Didn't Kurt want the match at Wrestlemania 20 but Bret declined?

  • @harijha7560
    @harijha7560 5 днів тому +189

    Eddie Vs Shawn would have been a great match 😞😞😞

    • @j_mad
      @j_mad 5 днів тому +19

      Was supposed to happen at Wrestlemania 2006 😢

    • @SpinosaurusTheProudSocialist
      @SpinosaurusTheProudSocialist 5 днів тому +15

      Yeah, knowing it was literally only months from actually happening makes it even worse. 😢

    • @purpleperc1012
      @purpleperc1012 5 днів тому +4

      Yess but only 90s shawn. His second run was massively overrated.

    • @don8244
      @don8244 5 днів тому +15

      ​@@purpleperc1012 Other way around, pal

    • @jamiebush1091
      @jamiebush1091 5 днів тому +3

      Definitely a match we sadly never got

  • @Sparkledash1
    @Sparkledash1 5 днів тому +129

    Rock vs. Michaels is a match i would've loved to see in the early 2000s. Problem is, Shawn had his demons to fight and Rock still had beef with him.

    • @gothard5
      @gothard5 5 днів тому +6

      Rock had beef with Shawn? actually, now that I think about it, I bet pretty much everybody except maybe Hunter and Vince had beef with Shawn back in the late 90s or early 2000s.

    • @rizkyanandita8227
      @rizkyanandita8227 5 днів тому +6

      @@gothard5I think it stems from his Grandmother promotion​.

    • @Sparkledash1
      @Sparkledash1 5 днів тому +12

      @@gothard5 It all goes back to 97. Bret Hart, saw huge potential in Rocky and advocated for a big push. But apparently Shawn caught wind of and tried to halt that big push, because Shawn used every opportunity at that time to piss off Bret and sadly Rock also got in the crossfire.

    • @ExplisitHipHop
      @ExplisitHipHop 5 днів тому

      It's petty because business comes first.

    • @Sparkledash1
      @Sparkledash1 5 днів тому +14

      @@ExplisitHipHop Everything is incredibly petty with Shawn in 97. He was what the Young Bucks are now, with the exception that Shawn is one of the greatest in ring talents in history and the others are a circus group.

  • @1975CAMARO454
    @1975CAMARO454 5 днів тому +263

    Austin knew it would be shit.

    • @RonJP-pm7jp
      @RonJP-pm7jp 5 днів тому +27

      Idk how you would even do that match. Would it be a face hogan style of match or a brawling stone cold type of match? I can’t see Hogan taking the Lou Thez press.

    • @emilyanderson9559
      @emilyanderson9559 5 днів тому +14

      Austin had had an attitude problem and hated constantly being called the new Hogan. But that's what he was.

    • @TheNinthHeart
      @TheNinthHeart 5 днів тому +21

      @@emilyanderson9559problem was he was NOWHERE EVEN NEAR the talent Hulk was. Hulk was a complete force of nature, from day one. He was always going to completely alter the course of the Industry, and everyone knew it (many tried to stop him). 6’7 with a one in a million, unmatched look & presence, and a work ethic unlike anyone else. Steve Austin was a juiced-up Stan lane: average sized career mid carder whose completely random success was the definition of a Cinderella story: hits a totally out of nowhere lightning in a bottle gimmick & miraculously becomes a “main eventer”. And then that barely even lasted two years before he couldn’t sustain it anymore.

    • @canveyrossful
      @canveyrossful 5 днів тому +94

      ​@@TheNinthHeartHulk is that you?

    • @HaveAHuff
      @HaveAHuff 5 днів тому +39

      ​Austin sold more merch and sold more tickets than anyone. He's working was better than Hogan's ever was, Hogan may have had al her run but there was no hotter run in wrestling than prime Steve Austin, that's an objective fact. Hogan was also pushed from day one just due to his look, while Austin got over despite bad booking which undeniably takes more talent than just being handed they keys to the kingdom. ​@@TheNinthHeart

  • @seyvend
    @seyvend 4 дні тому +51

    Rock vs HBK
    Bret vs Angle
    Taker vs Sting

    • @PercyLeon1
      @PercyLeon1 4 дні тому +3

      I have to agree with those. I would also add Hogan and Flair on their first encounter in the WWF

    • @GameTime-yj6qv
      @GameTime-yj6qv 4 дні тому +5

      All dream matches, but Austin Vs Hogan is more iconic

    • @gking44
      @gking44 4 дні тому +2

      Hogan vs Sting 88’

    • @pinroshan020
      @pinroshan020 4 дні тому +2

      Dont forget disco inferno vs fandango

    • @Bowler6611
      @Bowler6611 4 дні тому

      😂😂​@@pinroshan020

  • @ThymeKeeper
    @ThymeKeeper 5 днів тому +97

    Hart Foundation vs the Midnight Express would have blown my effing mind.

    • @cbod14
      @cbod14 5 днів тому +5

      RnR Express- Road Warriors. It needed to happen

    • @veteransgamingpodcast
      @veteransgamingpodcast 5 днів тому +6

      I never thought of this match and you are correct. I would pick the Eaton-Lane 1988 version of the Midnight Express.

    • @Rjensen2
      @Rjensen2 5 днів тому +2

      ​@@cbod14 Already has happened.

    • @cbod14
      @cbod14 5 днів тому

      @@Rjensen2 I don't count the eight man tag. I have it on DVD

    • @Rjensen2
      @Rjensen2 5 днів тому +1

      @@cbod14 Do you count the matches they had in Memphis? They've wrestled a bunch of times.

  • @Brianmcb84
    @Brianmcb84 5 днів тому +73

    Austin Vs. Goldberg was the one me and my friends talked about growing up

    • @michaelwandell2533
      @michaelwandell2533 5 днів тому +6

      Absolutely. The real thing vs the ding-a-ling. We were hyped when Vinnie bought dubya c dubya. Waiting for just this big moment. Unfortunately, still just a dream.

    • @RobVanDelay_WholeFnContest
      @RobVanDelay_WholeFnContest 5 днів тому +8

      Bell rings, Goldberg goes for a spear. Austin kicks him in the stomach and hits the stunner. Pins him 1-2-3. Glass shatters, Austin drinks beer, pours some over Goldberg's lifeless body, fans go home happy
      That's the only outcome that match deserves to get

    • @TheManOfTheHourEveryHour
      @TheManOfTheHourEveryHour 5 днів тому +1

      That's the REAL biggest match we never got. Hogan fucking sucks. Goldberg is as limited as Hogan is but at least he didn't have old man bloated roid gut, and the 7 total moves he knew were all explosive.

    • @coolguy298
      @coolguy298 4 дні тому +1

      ​@@TheManOfTheHourEveryHour Goldberg with 2 moves was a big draw

    • @earlmccrary9903
      @earlmccrary9903 4 дні тому +1

      Give me a “HE🤬🤬 YEAH” on that MATCH 🍻!!!🔥💯🔥💯😎

  • @matthewfreeman33
    @matthewfreeman33 5 днів тому +49

    I always wanted to see Demolition Smash versus Repo Man

    • @mrsl262
      @mrsl262 5 днів тому +3

      Krusher Kruschev vs Blacktop Bully for the NWA/WCW fans too

    • @danielburger1775
      @danielburger1775 5 днів тому +3

      With Special Referee Hole In One Darsow.

    • @capicornboss
      @capicornboss 2 дні тому +1

      😂😂😂😂

  • @anxofmyown
    @anxofmyown 5 днів тому +167

    Austin v Punk in 2012 would've been massive

    • @hassan74ish
      @hassan74ish 5 днів тому +6

      No it wouldn’t

    • @ISetYourFaceOnFire
      @ISetYourFaceOnFire 5 днів тому

      @@hassan74ish It would have been massive. objectively speaking to say it wouldn't have been massive is a delusional take.

    • @jamirimaj6880
      @jamirimaj6880 5 днів тому

      ​@@hassan74ishHuh?! That's straight hate. Austin vs Punk is NOT gonna be massive?! cmon

    • @DeltaSK2112
      @DeltaSK2112 5 днів тому +3

      ​@@hassan74ish It would have been as big at a minimum as Rock vs Cena was at WrestleMania 28. Likely way bigger because not only was Austin a bigger star, it also would be way considered way more unlikely to happen. It would be the most over guy in 2012 vs the most over guy of the Attitude Era. Money is what it would be in a word.

    • @ImAdaptking
      @ImAdaptking 4 дні тому +3

      @ punk was bigger than Cena that year.
      Austin has always been a bigger draw to wrestling fans than Rock .

  • @kevt1932
    @kevt1932 5 днів тому +56

    I think in the early 2000s wrestling landscape, Austin vs Goldberg would have been a bigger "money" match than Austin vs Hogan. Whether it would have been any good is a different question.

    • @BUPMY1
      @BUPMY1 5 днів тому +2

      I'm not sure about it being the bigger draw, but Austin/Goldberg I wanted see.

    • @agwtaw2
      @agwtaw2 5 днів тому +1

      At the right time I think it would have been bigger. But both matters would have sucked

    • @Onthejazz247
      @Onthejazz247 5 днів тому +7

      In 1998, every boy below 15 would've pestered every parent in the country into buying into that

    • @TheParappa
      @TheParappa 5 днів тому +3

      Austin / Goldberg might have been the bigger match, if Goldis streak was still intact.

    • @himynameisbrandonlee
      @himynameisbrandonlee 2 дні тому

      Hogan came back and no one was hotter. NWO and Return.

  • @shady610
    @shady610 4 дні тому +13

    Heel Rock vs Taker at mania.
    Rock had cut a promo that he had beat Autsin. Cena, and hogan all at Wrestlemania. This leaves 1 last accomplishment. Beating the streak.

    • @_dsn671
      @_dsn671 3 дні тому +3

      The fact that Rock has wins over those three guys at Mania is a massive accomplishment.

  • @michaelh3583
    @michaelh3583 5 днів тому +82

    Austin vs Hogan is definitely the biggest match to never happen. On the other hand, I'm glad it didn't because it wouldn't have been good.

    • @XombieLejon66
      @XombieLejon66 5 днів тому +9

      Imagine Hogan no-selling the stunner

    • @Steveh216
      @Steveh216 5 днів тому +1

      @@XombieLejon66Because that doesn’t work for him brother

    • @LumpyAdams
      @LumpyAdams 4 дні тому +5

      Heel Hogan vs Austin would have been fine.

    • @CarloPAD
      @CarloPAD 4 дні тому +1

      @@LumpyAdamswe all know the fans wouldn’t let hogan be pure heel in wwe

    • @GameTime-yj6qv
      @GameTime-yj6qv 4 дні тому +1

      Was Hogan Vs Andre great? No, but it was iconic. Same would have been for Hogan Vs Austin

  • @Kopers30
    @Kopers30 4 дні тому +9

    The 9 seconds where they talked about Austin/Hogan was enthralling.

    • @roccojamison89gooker51
      @roccojamison89gooker51 4 дні тому +2

      Why does Austin look like the Big Show in the picture promoting the Hogan/Austin match?

    • @TheNoirAlien
      @TheNoirAlien 3 дні тому +1

      Welllllllllllll, I don’t know. 🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @capicornboss
      @capicornboss 2 дні тому

      ​@roccojamison89gooker51 😂😂😂

  • @jeffreysharp9925
    @jeffreysharp9925 5 днів тому +58

    My all time dream match that did not happen was Bret v Angle. But that probably would not have been the draw of Hogan v Austin.

    • @totallybored5526
      @totallybored5526 5 днів тому +8

      It would have been the “modern” Wrestlemania 3 with steamboat vs savage and Andre vs hogan

    • @jeffreysharp9925
      @jeffreysharp9925 5 днів тому +2

      @ it helps that Angle is my favorite wrestler ever and Bret is probably the best wrestler he never shared a ring with. He wrestled HBK. He wrestled Eddie and Benoit and Brock. I do hope that one day they find a tape of that Owen v Angle match and release it.

    • @CosmicIsStoned
      @CosmicIsStoned 5 днів тому

      ​@jeffreysharp9925 As long as it isn't WWE that releases it. Owen's widow still hates them even mentioning his name.

    • @nh7680
      @nh7680 5 днів тому

      ​@@jeffreysharp9925His match with Brock in Japan is as good as wrestling gets imo

    • @reidro31
      @reidro31 5 днів тому +3

      Angle and Bret would have blown my mind. The 2 best in ring workers ever in my opinion

  • @HessenUK
    @HessenUK 5 днів тому +85

    Here comes the "that doesn't work for me brother" comments!

    • @ghostface216
      @ghostface216 5 днів тому +10

      Except it was Austin saying it here

    • @eamonnbarrett
      @eamonnbarrett 5 днів тому +7

      The irony that this was the only "it doesn't work for me brother" comment

    • @MrSircharles05
      @MrSircharles05 5 днів тому +1

      You're the only one I've seen make that comment

    • @pkizzlebeats
      @pkizzlebeats 5 днів тому

      What? 😂😂😂😂

    • @craigyoung2261
      @craigyoung2261 5 днів тому

      Literally the next comment down lol

  • @Pigbenis-d3f
    @Pigbenis-d3f 5 днів тому +55

    The biggest match that never happened was
    The Undertaker vs Crow Sting

    • @iancharest7655
      @iancharest7655 5 днів тому +8

      Having Sting challenge the streak at Wrestlemania could have been huge.

    • @DynastyIcon
      @DynastyIcon 5 днів тому

      wouldn't have been bigger.. that one might on top of everyones dream match list, but it wouldn't have been bigger... Hogan and Austin are the two biggest draws we've ever seen

    • @Clout_chasing_boy
      @Clout_chasing_boy 5 днів тому +3

      Hogan v austin would been thousand times bigger match

    • @zachary_attackery
      @zachary_attackery 5 днів тому +2

      @@iancharest7655 I know it never would have been allowed but imagine if Sting appears in the WWE for the first time, spends a year building a feud against Undertaker, then ends his streak at Wrestlemania

    • @nunyabidness7463
      @nunyabidness7463 5 днів тому

      Ultimate Warrior vs Surfer Sting when the whole "black scorpion" thing was going on, may not have been the biggest but it would have been cool lol

  • @jamesbryant8677
    @jamesbryant8677 3 дні тому +4

    Jim Cornette even makes the ads hilarious. "In February, you're f*cked!" I was laughing so hard my stomach hurt.

    • @Jaik71
      @Jaik71 2 дні тому +1

      Best part of the video

  • @JamesSmith-sw3nk
    @JamesSmith-sw3nk 5 днів тому +10

    We got the match we needed: Hogan vs Rock. The Rock bumped lots and made Hogan look great in that match. Austin vs Hogan wouldn't have been nearly as good.

    • @bdot187um
      @bdot187um 5 днів тому +2

      Yeah austins body was too beat up to bump around for hulk to make that match, plus austin was stale af after the horrible heel run he had while rock was firmly established as the face of the promotion.

    • @skimgettinkindamoney
      @skimgettinkindamoney 5 днів тому

      ​@@bdot187umyou should go rewatch that heel run, it's hilarious. I think the channel name is TH14

    • @CarloPAD
      @CarloPAD 4 дні тому

      Energy made the match. I’m sure if the fans didn’t let hogan be a heel again that atmosphere would make us overlook the lack of wrestling moves

    • @savievere9759
      @savievere9759 4 дні тому +1

      That Hogan/Rock match was a masterclass in psychology. You had a double turn because they read the crowd and just rolled with it

  • @asoncalledvoonch2210
    @asoncalledvoonch2210 5 днів тому +7

    Brian has learnt the ad transitions from cornette and has really improved on transitions from a few years ago.
    Well Done Brian.
    Corny taught you well.

  • @chadberserk1050
    @chadberserk1050 5 днів тому +14

    Hogan v Austin is the biggest box office what if. I don't think it would have been better than Hogan v Rock though. Austin was in a bad place at the time and was done a year later.
    Bruno v Andre would have been massive in the day.
    Hogan v Dusty
    Hogan v Bruiser Brody
    Hogan v Flair in WWF non house show environment.
    Taker Vs Sting
    Austin v Goldberg
    Hart v Angle
    The Rock v HBK

    • @Rjensen2
      @Rjensen2 5 днів тому +2

      Hogan vs. Rock was nothing. The most exciting thing they did was stood there and stared at each other.

    • @danday9697
      @danday9697 11 годин тому

      ​@@Rjensen2quit being dumb. The atmosphere alone makes it one of the best matches of all time.

    • @Rjensen2
      @Rjensen2 10 годин тому

      @@danday9697 🤣🤣🤣 They stood there and stared at each other.

    • @danday9697
      @danday9697 10 годин тому

      @Rjensen2 it's called wrestling psychology. I get that you probably like the aew garbage where there is just move after move with no meaning, and zero ring psychology.

  • @wilcee238
    @wilcee238 5 днів тому +33

    The Rock Vs DDP over who was the real Peoples Champion would’ve printed money.

    • @DBecks09
      @DBecks09 5 днів тому +6

      Yup. WCW had proper babyface stars in Sting, Goldberg, DDP and upcoming Booker. These were the guys. Hogan and Flair were nice but getting up there in age.

    • @ralph8677
      @ralph8677 5 днів тому +4

      I always thought that was a missed opportunity during the InVasion angle.

    • @Rjensen2
      @Rjensen2 5 днів тому +2

      😂😂😂 Definitely would not.

    • @Onthejazz247
      @Onthejazz247 5 днів тому +6

      ​@ralph8677 it was THE missed opportunity. They didn't have the turner guys, but they had page and they made him a joke.

    • @joewright6095
      @joewright6095 4 дні тому +2

      I just commented that lol. DDP was so cool before vince ruined his gimmick

  • @CamSTL
    @CamSTL 5 днів тому +16

    Ik these aren't the biggest, but Shawn vs Eddie at Mania coulda been huge if they pushed it.
    Taker vs Sting had Sting come earlier than he did.
    Kurt Angle vs Ken Shamrock since Angle came in right around the time Shamrock was leaving

    • @chriswhite82
      @chriswhite82 5 днів тому +2

      Wasn't Mania 22 supposed to be Shawn Vs Eddie but then Eddie passed away?

    • @logangurt2667
      @logangurt2667 5 днів тому

      Did they not fight?? That seems like it shoulda been a thing. Dam shame

    • @logangurt2667
      @logangurt2667 5 днів тому

      Sorry shamrock v angle, that's surprising

  • @timthegem
    @timthegem 5 днів тому +20

    I don't think any match ever would have topped Hulk vs. Andre as far as excitement and build-up goes. Housewives were talking to each other about it in grocery stores. Little old ladies were talking about it in bingo halls. Church pastors were mentioning it during their Sunday sermons. It was really something.

    • @Rjensen2
      @Rjensen2 5 днів тому +2

      Name one that mentioned it in his Sunday sermon.

    • @Rjensen2
      @Rjensen2 5 днів тому +1

      Hell, name me one person from any of those that wasn't a fan that talked about it then.

    • @DynastyIcon
      @DynastyIcon 5 днів тому +1

      that's fair.. most of us weren't even around when that match happened so we dont really understand how huge that match was.. and ppl still believed in wrestling back then so im sure that match was highly anticipated

    • @chuckjames1434
      @chuckjames1434 5 днів тому +2

      @@Rjensen2 Hogan and Andre were talked about by my high school teachers who didn't watch wrestling. Also made the mainstream news. I was in attendance that day.

    • @CarloPAD
      @CarloPAD 4 дні тому +2

      To be honest I had a Jamaican family friend who literally thought hogan was almost god like. He’d sing prayer for him all the time with people for his safety. The 80s were a different time

  • @savievere9759
    @savievere9759 4 дні тому +5

    I got two to throw into the mix. Sting vs Taker would've been huge but Bryan vs Michaels I think would have been epic during the whole Authority storyline

    • @Buskeeeeeeee
      @Buskeeeeeeee 3 дні тому

      Bryan vs Michaels wouldn’t have drawn as much money though

  • @angeljavier-c9p
    @angeljavier-c9p 5 днів тому +7

    Undertaker vs Sting , CM Punk vs Stone Cold Steve Austin , AJ Styles vs Shawn Micheal , Kurt Angle vs Bryan Danielson , Bret Hart vs Triple H

    • @chriswhite82
      @chriswhite82 5 днів тому +1

      Bret Vs Triple H did happen.

    • @mr.d00m37
      @mr.d00m37 5 днів тому

      ​@@chriswhite82Yeah but when HHH was pre-DX

    • @krzysztofrolbiecki9459
      @krzysztofrolbiecki9459 5 днів тому

      IIRC Angle vs Danielson almost happened in 2006ish

    • @angeljavier-c9p
      @angeljavier-c9p 5 днів тому

      @@chriswhite82 that was a young triple h though

    • @marvinleong5902
      @marvinleong5902 4 дні тому

      Punk Stone Cold might happen if Austin is willing to come back for the last time against Punk but he is 60 now so

  • @Marty-mm6uz
    @Marty-mm6uz 5 днів тому +12

    Here would have been a great to watch pay-per-view with everybody in their prime.
    Austin vs Goldberg
    HBK vs The Rock
    Bret Hart vs Kurt Angle
    Undertaker vs Crow Sting
    Randy Savage vs Triple H
    Bruno Sammartino vs Hulk Hogan
    Ultimate Warrior vs Brock Lesnar

    • @elhajjmalikel6266
      @elhajjmalikel6266 4 дні тому

      Dave Bautista vs Brock Lesnar is one that can also be thrown in there.

  • @DarkNorthEmperor
    @DarkNorthEmperor 4 дні тому +3

    Let's suggest one from the future which we were raving about:
    Jacob Fatu vs Bron Breaker

  • @fc775
    @fc775 5 днів тому +13

    Rock vs HBK is right up there with Austin vs Hogan!

  • @Puerto_Rican_Lover_4_Uuuuu
    @Puerto_Rican_Lover_4_Uuuuu 5 днів тому +21

    The Undertaker vs Sting is THE dream match hands down ...the entrances alone would sell out whatever building they were in

    • @DynastyIcon
      @DynastyIcon 5 днів тому

      not bigger than Hogan vs Austin... it might be everyone's dream match but its not the bigger match

    • @Puerto_Rican_Lover_4_Uuuuu
      @Puerto_Rican_Lover_4_Uuuuu 5 днів тому

      @DynastyIcon Hogan vs Austin would under deliver ...there's a reason they went with Rock vs Hogan in the original timeline it's not just about ego

    • @illestlyrics
      @illestlyrics 5 днів тому

      @@Puerto_Rican_Lover_4_Uuuuu I don't see in any world where that could be a good match. I mean, what match was good from Hogan besides The Rock one, maybe a flair one or two in wcw.

    • @Puerto_Rican_Lover_4_Uuuuu
      @Puerto_Rican_Lover_4_Uuuuu 5 днів тому

      @illestlyrics yes Hogan was always overrated in my opinion

    • @illestlyrics
      @illestlyrics 4 дні тому

      @@Puerto_Rican_Lover_4_Uuuuu we can call it overrated, but everyone says its about selling tickets and making money, and you can't argue with that.

  • @patrickmosley9456
    @patrickmosley9456 5 днів тому +11

    Not even mentioning Taker vs Sting is insane, if you don’t think the match would’ve been great you need your brain checked.

    • @Mrwonderful0212
      @Mrwonderful0212 5 днів тому +3

      Not so much about it being a great match. The real question is what kind of business it would do? You really think Taker vs Sting is gonna outdraw Austin vs Hogan?

    • @patrickmosley9456
      @patrickmosley9456 5 днів тому

      @ never said that, but not mentioning taker vs sting at all is crazy

    • @Mrwonderful0212
      @Mrwonderful0212 5 днів тому

      @@patrickmosley9456 you just wanted an honorable mention. Well let’s just add that to that long list of mentions on that topic

    • @NIKE-Duck
      @NIKE-Duck 5 днів тому

      Hulk Hogan vs Steve Austin LITERALLY is the biggest match... There's no question.

    • @MotherHen2012
      @MotherHen2012 5 днів тому +1

      The match would have been average at best.

  • @ShaneKraemer
    @ShaneKraemer 5 днів тому +8

    Imagine, if they were able to get all wcw talent for invasion and end it at wm 18, rock vs hogan; austin vs goldberg; dx vs outsiders; taker vs sting. Still have Flair, Jericho, Angle, Eddie, Booker T, etc, plus throw in ECW guys.

  • @theChrisJJ
    @theChrisJJ 5 днів тому +15

    Goldberg Vs Austin... And Sting vs Undertaker.
    The biggest matches that never happened was WCW vs WWF.
    Stupid Turner and his stupid contracts!

    • @DBecks09
      @DBecks09 5 днів тому +1

      And DDP vs Rock.

    • @BUPMY1
      @BUPMY1 5 днів тому +1

      Vince could've spent some dough and gave us a true Invasion. He would have easily made that money back.

    • @DynastyIcon
      @DynastyIcon 5 днів тому

      Sting and Taker still could've happened though.. both competed at Mania 31, that was the time to do it if it was ever gonna happen

    • @Onthejazz247
      @Onthejazz247 5 днів тому +2

      Delay your gratification vince, do the invasion in 2002. You get rock vs ddp or Hogan, Austin vs goldberg or Hogan, nwo vs classic dx, Sting Vs taker. All you need to do is not embarrass the guys like Booker and DDP when they show up so you don't scare Sting off

    • @DBecks09
      @DBecks09 5 днів тому +1

      @@Onthejazz247 yup it was right there. Portray Booker and DDP very strong as the top guys. But be on the vergr of beating them... then bam! Goldberg appears and joins the invasion. Sting does. Steiner does. The WWF guys seem fd. That could've been one hell of a story.

  • @MilMaska
    @MilMaska 5 днів тому +16

    "That doesn't work for me Brother" - Hulk Hogan

    • @Onthejazz247
      @Onthejazz247 5 днів тому +4

      Hogan put over goldberg, he was willing to put rocky over more than he did before they called it in ring. He even put over warrior. Hogan had no problem putting over other top guys.

    • @bdot187um
      @bdot187um 5 днів тому +5

      Ironically it was austin pulling that card & backing outta the match.

    • @andresfgp13
      @andresfgp13 2 дні тому +1

      i mean, Hogan lost to The Rock, the problem there was Austin.

  • @misterelom
    @misterelom 4 дні тому +1

    This made me think of the Steve Austin/Terry Funk brawl from that Shotgun Saturday Night episode. Had me wanting to see that match but we never got it.

  • @fenreer01
    @fenreer01 5 днів тому +10

    Austin v Goldberg

  • @AmitNHB
    @AmitNHB 5 днів тому +2

    *Austin vs Goldberg* in 98 when the wrestling business was at its peak would have been the biggest! Both Raw and Nitro were doing 5 millions head to head.

  • @reginaldshort8486
    @reginaldshort8486 5 днів тому +7

    Mankind vs Savage in 97 would’ve been great. The promos would’ve been epic. Also Road Warriors vs The Outsiders would’ve been a classic

  • @tomnagy3010
    @tomnagy3010 13 годин тому +1

    Taker '98 vs. Andre '80

  • @michaelrhudak
    @michaelrhudak 5 днів тому +13

    Only other match I can think of would be Austin vs. Goldberg in August/September of '98, before Goldberg started to get stale.

    • @johnthomas5314
      @johnthomas5314 2 дні тому

      I remember it being debated constantly around that time.

  • @hanhweeyeo5976
    @hanhweeyeo5976 4 дні тому +2

    They missed each other by a few years but I got to nominate British Bulldogs vs Steiners.

    • @TRivera13
      @TRivera13 4 дні тому

      That would've been a hell of a series of matches.

  • @robertnapier624
    @robertnapier624 5 днів тому +5

    If austin's career weren't cut short, how would he have fared against cena or orton?

    • @vb2806
      @vb2806 5 днів тому +3

      Him against Rapper Cena would have been money

    • @chriswhite82
      @chriswhite82 5 днів тому +1

      I think Austin Vs Lesnar would have been big. Look at their Smackdown confrontation in 2004.

    • @Spider_King
      @Spider_King 5 днів тому +2

      Austin vs Cena would have been epic, on par with Cena/Punk and Cena/Owens. Orton vs Austin would probably have been pretty disappointing.

    • @richborn6700
      @richborn6700 День тому

      Seeing how Angle put them both over and Austin would have probably been done main eventing he'd likely put them over as well. HBK did the same and Austin being of the era that you go out on your back would have been gracious I believe. Even if his neck weren't hurt he'd know 1997-2004 at latest was his run at the top.

  • @alexanderletzing6705
    @alexanderletzing6705 5 днів тому +3

    Yes. Next question

  • @The_Demolition_Icon
    @The_Demolition_Icon 5 днів тому +10

    I think The Rock vs. Shawn Michaels is the biggest match that never happened for match quality

    • @totallybored5526
      @totallybored5526 5 днів тому +4

      Or Eddie Guerrero vs Bret Hart. Or Bret Hart vs Kurt Angle. Or Dynamite kid vs Eddie Guerrero (probably happened randomly in Japan). Or for sh1ts and giggles Bruiser Brody vs Jon “to stupid for a h” Moxley

    • @Umega101
      @Umega101 5 днів тому +2

      @@totallybored5526 Biggest match of all time, dude. Not "Best possible AEW-style match to not have happened in WWE". Dynamite kid vs Eddie isn't drawing... No, it isn't.

    • @Devypocalypse
      @Devypocalypse 5 днів тому

      Bret vs Angle would have killed it

    • @The_Demolition_Icon
      @The_Demolition_Icon 5 днів тому +1

      @totallybored5526 you know what I forgot about that. But to be fair, by the time Kurt Angle was in WWE, Bret was about to if not already out of WWE. Kurt did have a match with Owen Hart, though.

    • @joegreene7619
      @joegreene7619 5 днів тому +2

      Match quality isn't a real thing.

  • @nickcervenka8756
    @nickcervenka8756 5 днів тому +2

    Taker/sting
    I don't think Hogan/Austin would have had the same energy as Hogan/Rock

  • @mrperson2804
    @mrperson2804 5 днів тому +7

    Biggest in terms of money, absolutely. If they scrapped all the invasion nonsense and spent a year building to Hogan vs Austin for X8 it would’ve been the biggest match ever.

  • @jaredbrady5566
    @jaredbrady5566 5 днів тому +1

    I think in say August 98, Austin v Goldberg was a huge match for the marks.
    Hogan v Rock, while not being quite as big than Hogan v Austin on paper, ended up being better in the end. Just because Dwayne and Terry are so similar in personality and got on the same page immediately.

  • @lookitskazzy
    @lookitskazzy 5 днів тому +9

    Shilling at 6:33

  • @Intimigator
    @Intimigator 5 днів тому +2

    Top 5 matches (at least in the last 35 years) that could have been huge, but never happened:
    1. Stone Cold vs. Hulk Hogan
    2. Sting vs. The Undertaker
    3. Shawn Michaels vs. The Rock
    4. Bret Hart vs. Kurt Angle
    5. Brock Lesnar vs. Batista

    • @chriswhite82
      @chriswhite82 5 днів тому

      Shawn Vs Eddie. Shawn Vs AJ Styles. Austin Vs Punk.

    • @zachary_attackery
      @zachary_attackery 5 днів тому

      how crazy is it that Shawn has never been in a match against Rock and neither one of them have ever even talked about it

    • @lyricsanonymous9036
      @lyricsanonymous9036 2 дні тому

      ​@@zachary_attackeryRock brought it up at the 2008 HoF

  • @shamsi780
    @shamsi780 5 днів тому +14

    Or HBK vs Rock.

  • @CharlesSpadina3030
    @CharlesSpadina3030 5 днів тому +2

    These are “dream matches” they’re discussing, not Frank the Lawyer vs Ricochet that they try to sell weekly as a dream match

    • @zlinedavid
      @zlinedavid 5 днів тому

      Now we need to see Frank the Lawyer vs Steven P. New!

    • @henrygvidonas9573
      @henrygvidonas9573 5 днів тому

      Frank Beast-Mortos, Esq. vs. Trevor Urkel.
      _The stuff that pro wrestling history gets forged from._

  • @retepoteil
    @retepoteil 5 днів тому +5

    My personal pick is Ken shamrock vs Kurt angle. UFC champion vs Olympic champion. There were just like a month apart from each other

  • @skristianf
    @skristianf 5 днів тому +1

    Austin and Hogan trade blows; rassle, rassle; Austin corners Hogan; Austin stomps a mud hole; Hogan hulks up and points at Austin; rassle, rassle; Austin's in the middle of the ring - the ref is knocked out, Hogan leg drops and roll-up; Hogan goes to pull the ref awake; Austin trips him up; mud hole; Hogan stumbles up and fires back; bodyslam to Austin; Austin's down and Hogan leg drops again; Austin moves; rassle; Austin stunner; pin; kick at 2; Austin beat down; Hulk up; tussle; stunner, stunner, stunner; pin to 3. Handshake; drink beer; camaraderie; stunner.

  • @QAZ-OMEN
    @QAZ-OMEN 5 днів тому +6

    The 2 biggest matches to never happen both include SCSA. Brock vs SCSA, and Hogan vs SCSA. But somehow, we got to SCSA vs KO, which was awesome.

    • @thetowerofivory
      @thetowerofivory 5 днів тому

      *Goldberg Vs. SCSA, Cena Vs. SCSA, Punk Vs. SCSA...

    • @Rjensen2
      @Rjensen2 5 днів тому

      Brock vs. SCSA....😂😂😂 What makes that one so great to you?

  • @gregorykrug8034
    @gregorykrug8034 10 годин тому

    Brian mentioned how The Midnight Express never wrestled The Hart Foundation nor The British Bulldogs. That reminded me that The Midnight Express never wrestled Kerry and Kevin, even though they were all in WCCW together!

  • @terryo3512
    @terryo3512 5 днів тому +7

    Brock & Batista. I know they wrestled in Ovw but its no reason that they didn't have one match in WWE

    • @robertnapier624
      @robertnapier624 5 днів тому

      It’ll never happen of course. Brock is unlikely to return after he was named in the lawsuit and Batista has zero intent on returning to the ring. He has his acting career.

  • @alanmcdonald469
    @alanmcdonald469 5 днів тому +2

    This may show my age, but Shawn Michaels vs AJ Styles would have been my biggest dream match.
    And if I can cross generations, Bruno Sammartino vs Roman Reigns I'd want to see as well.

  • @felipeignaciopizarrotapia2009
    @felipeignaciopizarrotapia2009 5 днів тому +6

    Taker v Sting
    Austin v Hogan
    Rock v Shawn
    Bret v Angle
    Now those are real dream matches and not the shit aew presents

  • @OzzyOscy
    @OzzyOscy 4 дні тому +1

    *_Am I the only one that wanted Rock v Hogan?_*
    I think Austin v Hogan would've been a clash of styles.

  • @InfiniCalendar
    @InfiniCalendar 5 днів тому +19

    *Austin does the stunner*
    *Hogan immediately Hulks up, making Austin look like a chump*

    • @robertnapier624
      @robertnapier624 5 днів тому +6

      Austin upon seeing hogan no sell the stunner: WHAT?

    • @kimbob5
      @kimbob5 5 днів тому +3

      Austin just Stunners him repeatedly until Hogan says “that works for me brother”.

  • @mattblow8561
    @mattblow8561 День тому +1

    It would've been shit. Hogan was a terrible wrestler who was marketed as a real life cartoon to kids.

    • @joroma526
      @joroma526 11 годин тому

      I agree to extent.check out a video Hogan vs .muta in japan.you be surprised what Hogan pulled off.i still think to this day Hogan was CGI.but if real he could pull off moves.check it out

    • @joroma526
      @joroma526 11 годин тому

      But I think maybe just played it safe during his run in the states.

  • @3mikeb
    @3mikeb 5 днів тому +3

    Flair vs. Hogan when Flair first went to the WWF/WWE. Right around Wrestlemania 8

    • @donovanbradford8231
      @donovanbradford8231 4 дні тому +1

      As crazy as it sounds the reason we never got that at 8, was because in house shows around late 91 and early 92 the business wasn't there. I listened to Bruce and Conrad talk about it and it is interesting to hear those shows drew less than other Hogan opponents from the 80s.

  • @michaelpeterson3736
    @michaelpeterson3736 5 днів тому

    Whoever does the thumbnails does amazing work

  • @MariuszMroczek-dd7ku
    @MariuszMroczek-dd7ku 5 днів тому +11

    Vince McMahon vs. Janel Grant

    • @philburt781
      @philburt781 5 днів тому +3

      A shitty match indeed!

    • @mooper11
      @mooper11 5 днів тому

      Johnny Ace on a Pole match

    • @NIKE-Duck
      @NIKE-Duck 5 днів тому

      Vince McMahon vs Ted Turner in a barb wire match

    • @robertnapier624
      @robertnapier624 5 днів тому

      @@philburt781 the drizzling shits!

  • @Cameo131
    @Cameo131 4 дні тому +1

    Gotta go with Sting Taker. The build could’ve been even better than the match.

  • @kennyozz3814
    @kennyozz3814 5 днів тому +5

    I always wanted to see Shawn Michaels vs The Rock and we never got it.

    • @RandalfElVikingo
      @RandalfElVikingo 5 днів тому

      The Rock vs Rey Mysterio. The Rock would have carried the promos and Rey the matches.

  • @FakeName-xm7kj
    @FakeName-xm7kj 5 днів тому

    In 1998 Austin vs Goldberg was the match we all talked about at our lockers. That would've been the hottest and biggest ticket in wrestling history in my opinion.

  • @bigran_outbound2262
    @bigran_outbound2262 5 днів тому +5

    Glad it never happened

  • @stephenrogers4537
    @stephenrogers4537 4 дні тому +2

    Brody versus Hogan👍💯🇺🇲🫡

  • @OTJ8995
    @OTJ8995 5 днів тому +4

    If Hogan had come over in 2001, as part of the WCW invasion and as the heel leader of the nWo, it might have worked. If both guys are babyfaces, I just don’t see it working out. In ring, they would have no chemistry, Austin can’t feed a Hulk Hogan comeback and Hogan couldn’t work Austin’s pace. On the mic, it would have been a clash of styles. Austin’s promo style wouldn’t compliment babyface Hogan.
    Just going in as a cold exhibition match, they probably could have sold a lot of tickets, but people probably wouldn’t rewatch it the way they do with Hogan and Rock.

  • @trafficosrs
    @trafficosrs 5 днів тому +3

    Bret vs Angle Taker vs Sting wouldnt hold a candle to the money Austin vs Hogan wouldve generated

  • @Saxxin1
    @Saxxin1 4 дні тому +1

    The biggest match that never happened was Sting vs The Undertaker.

  • @mopo3210
    @mopo3210 5 днів тому +5

    Both guys would walk out the room after 5 minutes and vince would walk out the window 5 minutes after that

  • @marquisneal5480
    @marquisneal5480 5 днів тому

    Austin-Goldberg, Bret-Angle, Hardys-Harlem Heat, Dudleys-Road Warriors, R&R Xpr-Heel Hart Foundation, Mid Xpr-Bulldogs, Kerry-Heel 85 Nikita, Eddie-AJ Styles, so many...

  • @Robby_C
    @Robby_C 5 днів тому +11

    Austin vs Goldberg or Sting vs Undertaker in the late 90's probably would have been bigger than Austin vs Hogan

    • @DynastyIcon
      @DynastyIcon 5 днів тому +1

      no match would have been bigger than Austin vs Hogan... they are the two biggest draws that we've ever seen, the two biggest wrestlers ever in terms of popularity... neither of those other matches you mentioned would have been bigger

    • @Robby_C
      @Robby_C 5 днів тому +1

      @@DynastyIcon Hogans wasn't even as big of a draw as Goldberg when they were in the same company together.

  • @Bananahammock681
    @Bananahammock681 5 днів тому +1

    I mean, we got Hogan vs The Rock which was a far batter match up. At that point you didn't want the better worker in there with Hogan, you wanted the better CHARACTER against Hogan as he was pure character himself.
    And by character I don't mean gimmick, I mean personality, charisma and all that which makes a person's overall character.

  • @db-jk8dl
    @db-jk8dl 5 днів тому +7

    The Goon vs Mantaur😢

    • @btipton6899
      @btipton6899 5 днів тому +1

      Bastion Booger vs. Duke The Dumpster Drose

    • @BUPMY1
      @BUPMY1 5 днів тому

      ​@@btipton6899Brooklyn Brawler vs Henry Godwin. 😮

    • @zlinedavid
      @zlinedavid 5 днів тому

      TL Hopper vs Repo Man

  • @Amzingred
    @Amzingred 4 дні тому

    Biggest WM What If Card
    1. World Heavyweight Title Match
    Hogan vs Austin
    2. Boss Against Locker Room Leader
    The Undertaker vs Andre The Giant
    3. Submission IC Title Match
    Kurt Angle vs Bret Hart
    4. Big Babyface Match
    Rey Mysterio Jr. Vs Ricky The Dragon Steamboat
    5. Tag Team Title Ladder Match
    Rock N Roll Express vs Hardys
    6. Icon vs Icon Match
    HBK vs Sting
    7. Opener
    Eddie Guerrero vs Owen Hart

  • @sarkissamuel
    @sarkissamuel 5 днів тому +3

    Undefeated Goldberg vs Stone Cold Steve Austin.

  • @RobotReg
    @RobotReg 3 дні тому +1

    Maybe not the biggest match to never happen. But I would have like to see Bret vs RVD

  • @mojo-eq4ln
    @mojo-eq4ln 5 днів тому +5

    Flair vs Hogan circa 1988

  • @royalrambler9577
    @royalrambler9577 4 дні тому

    I know everyone’s talking about the topic of the video in the comments but the Mint Mobile ad at the end is killing me 😂 Jim is promoting the he’ll out of it just to end it off with “in February you’re fucked” priceless 😂

  • @TheMartialCardist
    @TheMartialCardist 5 днів тому +4

    Flair vs Hogan at Wrestlemania in the 80s is the biggest match to not happen.

    • @Rjensen2
      @Rjensen2 5 днів тому +4

      They wrestled a bunch of times.
      It drew so well they cancelled the plans for it.

  • @Mr.Majestic77
    @Mr.Majestic77 5 днів тому +1

    [1].Lou Thez vs. Bruno Sammartito.
    [2]. The Steiner Brothers (Rick & Scott).
    vs.
    The British Bulldogs (Davey Boy Smith & The Dynamite Kid).
    [3]. "Total Package" Lex Luger
    vs. "Modern Day Warrior" Kerry Von Erich.
    [4]. Magnum T.A vs. Barry Windham.
    [5]. Sting vs Shawn Michaels.
    [6]. Kevin Von Erich vs. Brad Armstrong.
    [7]. "Wildfire" Tommy Rich vs. Rick Martel.
    [8]. "Macho Man" Randy Savage vs.
    "Dr. Death" Steve Williams.
    [9]. Stu Hart vs. Verne Gagne.

  • @dannystaton5386
    @dannystaton5386 5 днів тому +4

    Goldberg VS Austin 90s I would have paid 100s to see that

  • @corydicus5200
    @corydicus5200 5 днів тому +1

    Taker and Sting is another one. So is Austin and Punk. My personal dream match probably would have never been possible, but it would have been Angle/Bret.

  • @mma9869
    @mma9869 5 днів тому +4

    Prime Bret Hart vs Prime Kurt Angle probably would have been the greatest match ever

  • @rickjay2011
    @rickjay2011 4 дні тому +1

    If Austin was in the Rock's spot at that WrestleMania, I'd wonder if the crowd would have turned on Austin, the way they did the Rock? 🤔

    • @donovanbradford8231
      @donovanbradford8231 4 дні тому

      You never know because Toronto is an odd place as they did a similar thing with Edge, Jerchio, and Batista at Summerslam 04 and that's what pushed Edge to turn heel.

    • @ravenlit
      @ravenlit 4 дні тому

      It's possible, but I think Austin would have been able to switch to the heel role as easily as Rock did, as his character was more of a tweener anyway

  • @HisBubbliness
    @HisBubbliness 5 днів тому +3

    Goldberg and Austin would've funded a shit ton of yachts and golden toilets.

  • @KayamaKoomori
    @KayamaKoomori 4 дні тому

    One coming to mind because I remember one of them said they didn’t want to work with each other:Shawn Michaels vs the Rock. Either in 1997 or 2002

  • @TheNoirAlien
    @TheNoirAlien 3 дні тому

    Austin vs Hollywood Hogan specifically would have been interesting. Austin goes over.

  • @craftarena8020
    @craftarena8020 4 дні тому +1

    When i was a kid i always wanted to see Goldberg against The Undertaker then I grew up and i saw the match, so sometimes it is better than our dream match never happen😂

  • @soshiderek
    @soshiderek 5 днів тому

    Austin vs. Goldberg, Goldberg vs. Warrior, Bret vs. Hogan, AJ vs. Punk, many what ifs.

  • @Mangler411
    @Mangler411 5 днів тому

    Definitely. And Goldberg vs Austin is right behind it. I remember thinking for sure Goldberg was gonna run in during the Invasion main event to attack 'the old' Austin and cost WWF the match to start their feud. Fuckin Austin himself turned again and I had quit watchin wrestling by the time Goldberg showed up in WWF.

  • @anthonybarnes1903
    @anthonybarnes1903 15 годин тому

    One of the biggest matches that should’ve happened is Sting and Undertaker. It’s still kinda surprising they never got in the ring together.

  • @JuliusC1973
    @JuliusC1973 5 днів тому

    I think of several I would love to have seen: The Hart Foundation vs. The Midnight Express! Magnum TA vs. Bret Hart! Rick Martel vs. Tully Blanchard! Macho Man Randy Savage vs. Mr. Perfect! Steve Austin vs. Ted DiBiase to name a few.

  • @joelclementson9416
    @joelclementson9416 2 дні тому

    Yay my question!

  • @Infinite47o
    @Infinite47o 4 дні тому +1

    I think Hogan vs Flair at Mania 8 would have been big instead of Sid

    • @coolguy298
      @coolguy298 4 дні тому

      Hogan Vs Flair was the biggest wrestling match to ever happen. They did it on house shows.
      It was supposed to happen at Wrestlemania but Hogan decided to leave WWF due to the steroid scandal after Mania.
      So Hogan wouldn't be able to defend the WWF title after Wrestlemania. So Vince did Savage Vs Flair so that Savage could defend the belt after mania.

  • @OneSideofFries
    @OneSideofFries 5 днів тому

    I personally wish we could’ve gotten Rock vs Orton. I’m not saying it would’ve been the biggest draw but the story is has been there since 2004.