*NEW* Pepe Tools Ultra Series Rolling Mill Review in HD
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- Опубліковано 13 лют 2016
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Jeweller Dave Wilson of celticdreams.co.uk shows us the latest rolling mill from Pepe Tools. completely redesigned and superb quality, but at an affordable price. see the mill in action • How to make Silver Scr...
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Thanks for watching. Dave Wilson. - Навчання та стиль
Well dave I really appreciate your help and pepetools I'm sure does also lol went and picked up our 130mm combo mill and omg love this thing already. And your way of teaching is excellent very easy to listen to and easy to grasp, son and I really appreciate you and your videos.
Thanks for the kind words. Glad to have helped you make an informed decision. Dave
Dave Thank You for your videos. I'm a hobbyist and because of your videos I just purchased the Pepe Tools 130 comb mill. I am real excited about copper wire to wood inlay art and I also make jewelry. Again Thank You so much for your great videos.
...Thanks for the lovely comment Rod'. The quality of this mill really does stand out. It simply does what you want it to do. I'm sure it will be a great addition to your workshop and help your creativity grow. I am already doing things that I couldn't previously do, due to now having this mill. Hopefully you've seen my video on embossing.... Dave.
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Thank You and yes I did see your video. Keep up the great work
Thanks for watching Rodney, and thanks for taking the time to leave a comment and say hi. Stay tuned for more. Dave.
Hi Dave, Thanks. I do own a Pepe Tools ring bender, and they are right near my home! So I will buy one from them when I decide to get one! They make great tools.
....Indeed they do! and reasonably priced too, especially if you live locally and can avoid the shipping costs. They are also a family run company and genuinely "nice people". Thanks for commenting. Dave.
Pepe makes great tools👍👍
They do indeed, and best of all - they are nice guys too ! Thanks Dave
On the old wish list for me Dave, need one soon!
+jim bettridge ....at 55lb I'd like to see Santa try and get this down the chimney. But wish no longer, they are a lot more affordable than you might think. From what I know so far, this is about half the price of the "other" popular brand. ; )
Thanks Dave, was just on the site but no price, they have Gesswin as a dealer here in Canada but the don't show it yet, must be too new.
Ok Dave, how many pounds in your money?
+jim bettridge according to Pepe's facebook page (link below).....this model has an RRP of $600 USD.
Note this is the biggest unit, with the gearbox and the combo rollers. So this should be the dearest and all the others should be even cheaper than this.So whichever way you cut it, to me here in the UK that's half the price of the nearest model. I've seen Indian ones that cost more than that. As I said in the video - compromise no longer my friends. ; ) Dave.
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Thanks Dave.
Thanks for getting back to me, I look into the Pepe shipping from USA if yours turned up ok!! Seems a very good deal but will get hold of suttons it's a shame so many great tools from USA few things I want to get hold of, great videos keep up the good work
I spoke to David at Pepe Tools. If you get in touch, he will advise on the cheapest method of getting one. david@pepetools.com
Wonderful review Dave, I love your reviews. Your camera is clear and crisp and you don't ever talk "over my head" so to speak. I wonder, will you be doing a review on how to actually use this? I don't understand the dials on the top of the machine. This is huge on my wish list and the price is amazing. Christmas money is going here for certain this year!
+Debbie Minter (Dharlee) thanks Debbie. The camera is a canon EOS 700D with a set of studio lights and the use of a 100mm macro lens. I also do a lot of editing. It takes a long time to film these videos.
Yes, I will be making more videos on the Pepe mill. I am planning on melting scrap and making it into a bangle. I am just waiting for an I got mould to arrive. I will also do some roller embossing and texturing. Possibly a strip down and service video too.
As for the dials, they're simple. They just act as markers. The dials don't move anything. They just slot onto the top of the cogs. Screw down the rollers untill they touch. Turn the dials to zero. As you turn the top handle to open the rollers, the top cogs turn.. In doing so the dials turn, so you can get a reading of how much the rollers have moved. Vice versa you can put your silver in the mill and then zero the dials. As you turn the handle to close rollers as you flatten your sheet, you can see how much you have moved on the dials.
Hope this makes sense. Dave.
Thank you Dave. I really love your videos!
See the mill in action on a few projects......
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Cheap Indian 80mm Mill with 7 rollers $310, Pepe 90mm Combo mill $525, Durston 80mm combo mill $590.
That's not much a price difference between the Pepe and Durston, but a little extra width on the Pepe. My big thing is I would love to see either company make a mill with interchangeable rollers. The extra versatility that that brings is amazing.
I think the price of these new Pepe mills, effectively makes the cheap Indian ones obsolete, as for a few dollars more you can get something professional. Any mill has interchangeable rollers - in theory. But it's not always an easy task. So yes, I agree, some kind of quick change system would be great. Dave
Can you tell me the diameter of the rollers on the PEPE Mill, on the cheap ones they are 43mm, I'm thinking of re-cycling the cheap one and putting it in the skip and getting the PEPE which I should have found then purchased. I enjoy your videos, very simple and informative without the blasting music.
Rollers on all the Ultra series are 65mm Diameter. Specs here.... Dave.
pepetools.com/rolling-mills/130mm-flat-ultra-rolling-mill
Thanks, how did I not hear you say it on the video? one of my problems-which I sussed, is with the cheap rollers, they only accept 'cast material up to 3.5mm, I tried forever to make it that thin and re-melted silver 3 time-then pored it into the molds which I had preheated -'mistake''I heated the mold far to hot! last attempt I hardly warmed the mold and greased it like you described, (PERFECT) I now had thin enough silver to go through the rollers. But the small dia rollers give another problem, The silver curls very quickly and I forever have to re heat and straighten the silver in the vise.
I hope all of this makes sense, and thanks for the reply, 'that I didn't need! "watch the video he said"
can the roller move in opposite directions to create a shear?
Interesting thought. No, they cant is the simple answer. The gearbox moves both rollers at the same speed and direction, hence it forces the metal through. I guess modifying the gearbox would do that. I'm not exactly sure why you'd want such as shearing action. But I hope this answers your question. Dave
A newer one from the one you have? So do you think it's strong enough for what I need, as compared to a durston, etc. I want whats also easiest on my back.
This is my Mill I only have the one Pepe. This was manual and then with Pepe I converted it to the electric model, in order to make the Powered mill video. So now I just have this unit as the powered mill, that's it. I did have two cheap Indian ones but sold both of them. All the Pepe units have the 4:1 gearbox which makes life very easy. Durston also offer a gearbox but not on all models, its only on the dearer ones. Pepe V Durston, Quality wise there isn't much between them, they are both similar designs and both great quality. But Durston can be very pricey. A top end Duston model like this will cost double the price of the Pepe. Although Durston are fighting back with a new cheaper range, which look to be "very similar" to the Pepe range. D****** do seem to copy everything that Pepe make (...jump ring maker, ...superior ring bender, ....ultra mills). Which I don't approve of. So imho Pepe are better quality and far better value and more importantly an honest, family run USA company which I am proud to support. It also means you can get a lot more for you money with Pepe. Dave
Hi Dave! I unfortunately bought one of the cheep, India made rolling mills! It only works for 2mm or less! Completely useless for ingots for sheets or for the awesome design plates for embossing! The plates are 2mm alone! I'm considering the Pepe. But am concerned there is no round wire option. Have you done the draw plate method?
So, I'm going to be melting down an old set of 925/sterling silver flat wear to make my own sheet and wire. I've heard just to add a pinch of fine silver to up the grade a tad. Do you think this Pepe mill opens enough for sheet and wire ingots? You said 5 mm. Then in comments you said also sometimes 7-8... but officially 5mm. What do you think??
+husThe Pepe mill opens to 5mm.. this is a safety spec to avoid crushed fingers. A small guard on the top stops the gears from raising any higher. If you remove the guard you can get an extra couple of mm. with any mill the real factor is the length of the gear teeth. If you open the rollers too far, then eventually the gears won't mesh. Pepe have just made a new wire rolling mill, so check out their site. Yes, if casting scrap it's a good idea to add a little pure silver or gold to keep the purity up. Especially if melting down chains which can have a lot of solder in them. Dave
So, I have a question, because I am getting into things like jewlery making and metal working, having really never done any previously. Given this is using hardened steel for its surface, I am guessing this is meant to be used with softer metals like copper, silver, gold, and aluminum. I probably wouldn't want to use it with iron or steel for fear of damaging the roller surface or putting too much strain on the gear system right?
Or can it be used for iron and steel too? Also, where would brass and bronze fit in here?
I guess what I am asking is what are the limits as to the sorts of metals I ought to be working with on this tool?
The rollers are steel and have been specially case hardened. Yes it is designed for use by jewellers, with non ferrous metals such as silver and gold. Soft iron in small diameters should be ok within reason. Working with things like larger steel or tougher metals, could potentially mark the rollers. Not a big problem if that's all you want to do with it, you just accept that the mill will get punished. but something we jewellers aim to avoid. Hope this helps. Dave
@@CelticDreamsCoUk What if I was to roll harder materials hot to soften them up? Would that work? Or would it the heat be too much for the press to handle?
I might be better off using a different tool or method.
If I have 5 to 7 mm copper wire can this machine make it flat & wide?
The 7mm is probably about the limit of the opening of the rollers. But yes, it will flatten it down, no problem. Remember though, it won't make the wire wider, just flatter and longer. Dave
@@CelticDreamsCoUk Thank you for your help. Working on making wide bracelets & at this point I have to use a hammer. Then I stencil, add patina, engrave, etc. I was hoping to find something to make it wider, as well. Thank you for your response and help.
Im interested in the style / type of necklace you are wearing in this video. Do you sell it on your site or can I get the specific details of the style? Thanks!
Yes, I make them and I sell them, You can also make your own!.... watch this video below.... Dave
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@@CelticDreamsCoUk Thank you so much!
How long is the handle?
I'd have to measure it but quite big, i'd say 18" long. Dave
I just bought this rolling mill and realized there is no option to make full round wire (for making jump rings). Does Pepe make some wire roller set I can buy for it?
No. At present they only do the combo as shown or flat rollers. I have explained to them the need for double round rollers for making wire, especially for the electric version. But nothing so far. Dave
Celtic Dreams thanks for the reply, do you happen to know of a decent economy mill that can make round wire? Any recommendations?
It's kind of a contradiction really " a decent economy mill". The cheap blue Indian ones you'll see for under £200 often do come with double wire rollers. But all of these cheap Indian mills are very poor quality and false economy as they soon break. Durston claim they are the only manufacturer to offer full wire rollers. So I guess that's it if you want to make wire. Dave. www.durston.co.uk/round-rolling-mills.htm
Brent Archer get your self a draw bench. Draw square through draw plate.
That's Certainly one method. Personally I've found that to be tricky to do. Dave.
That's like a $700 tool, but if it lasts as long as you say it ought to, then I'd have to say it's likely worth every penny as long as you put enough work through it.
Yes, it is indeed a considered investment. But if you compare it to similar "looking" models (from a well known UK company) you'll see the Pepetools units are actually much better value for the size, quality and the features. I feel you get more for your money with the USA models. Dave
@@CelticDreamsCoUk "Feel"? How about some facts, to sell me this instead of the brit? I live in Denmark, and will probably have to pay more for "the same size", if I buy american, even though UK isn't a part of EU any more (lucky bastards)
What's the price to ship Canada and warranty ?
Check with Pepetools... link below. Dave
pepetools.com/discount/CELTIC?redirect=/collections/rolling-mills-1?l1=metal-forming|Metal%20Forming&aff=4
what is the diameter of the top big gear?
The two outer gears are 10.5 cm diameter and the central one attathced to the handle is approx 6 cm diameter (difficult to measure that one). Dave
Ilike
Thanks. Dave
How much this pepe
www.amazon.co.uk/PepeTools-Wire-Rolling-Mill-Ultra/dp/B074CPZ3NR/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1525299531&sr=8-1&keywords=pepetools
como puedoarquidir una maqui na de stas
¿Contratar o comprar? No creo que puedas contratarlos desde ningún lado. dave
Does your mill produce 6.5mm square wire?
The larger of the square grooves is 6mm, so yes 6.5 is fine. Dave
@@CelticDreamsCoUk yeah that's what the website says, but I bet you the largest will only yield a 4.5mm
If the rollers are full closed then you can roll a 6mm square bar , through the largest V grooves. But if 0.5 mm open you can easily make 6.5, by rotating it as you work. I do this with cast bars to taken them down into wire. Dave ua-cam.com/video/BsfJYi-G1D8/v-deo.html
@@CelticDreamsCoUk well what I'm getting at is that mill will only do a 4.5mm square grooves in the largest hole. There for pepe is lying about the capability of the mill
Is this type of machine good?
Watch the video and decide for yourself. Dave
@@CelticDreamsCoUkIs this an American type of machine?
How much price..?
I don't know where you are or even what country. So I can't say what it costs in your country. See Pepe website to look for a dealer in your own country. Hope this helps. Dave
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we have this model in China
No you don't. Genuine Pepetools are made in the USA, anything from China is a fake. Dave.
Hello Dave, where can you buy this in the UK please, I'm in the south of England
Good question. My unit came direct from Pepe in the USA. In the UK I only really know of Sutton Tools who sell Pepe products, but at present they don't list the rolling mills. Here in the UK most retailers sell Durston as they are made in the UK (down south). So I don't currently know of anyone in the UK selling the Pepe mills. But it may be worth asking sutton Tools, they may order you one.
Dave.
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I wanna here you say Pepe again 1:34
Thank you. Lancashire, Northern English Accent, I can't deny my ancestry. Dave
What is the price of this machine? I need it as I work in the silver business
Take look at the Pepetools site for the latest prices and deals. Dave
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