Thank you this is great. I’ve been hunting out of a saddle exclusively for the last 4 years but I’ve just found myself with a spot I need to sit where a tree stand is really the best way to hunt it. I think I can use the .5 as my back up system for spots like this. I have an old loan wolf but it’s just too big it gets hung up on too much stuff while I’m trying to slip in quietly.
Thank you🙏🏼. I'm glad you enjoyed the review. It's a great stand. Many people use it as a hybrid system and saddle hunt out of it. It's small and compact but can hunt for about 4-5 hours before I feel fatigued. I'm only 5’8, so the short seat post doesn't bother me.
Thanks for answering my ?, never thought i would see it in a video. Lol. One thing I have done on a couple LW Assaults, is add a 1” dia spacer x 1” long at the seat post connection to push out the cables to help with the cable pinch if you want to stand as close to the tree along with stealth stripping the cables for noise. Thanks again.
No problem, man! Thanks for submitting the question. I did a lousy job at showing how close you can get to the tree by standing with your feet offset, but I can get all the way back on the platform.
Hey man great video! I had a question, what bag is that you have under the seat? Can I have the info on where to get it? Thanks bro keep making great content!
I’ve got a 1st gen .5 and it still amazes me how concerned people get over the edges. The fact they think they’re “sharp“ is just crazy to me. It just feels like an edge, it’s not even sharp. Either way, great review. I’ve got 50+ sits on mine over the last 2 seasons and I can’t ever see myself using anything else until they some how make it better.
The edges don't bother me too much but I didn't want my backpack straps to cut over time because some of them you can't replace. Other than that, the stand is fantastic, and I agree; I don't see myself ever running my LW Assualt unless it's a pre-hung set. Thank you for watching!
Ordered a DS .5 last night and after a ton research decided to go with a set of beast stick minis to pair up with it they are just rock solid can’t wait to get it all together and see how I want to pack it out and get some reps in trees
Your only regret about the stand is that you didn't order it sooner! I have never used the beast sticks, but iv heard good things, but The LWCG minis pack so nicely.
after a few weeks of having this set up I really like the beast sticks they are so solid only problem is there is just no good option for packing them out at least for my liking so I went ahead and ordered four LWCG 17” minis and two 17” aiders you are 100% correct can’t get around how awesome they pack to the .5 I will keep the beast sticks for my Novix helo and use that set up to hang and leave up in different spots for quick after work hunts
Yeah, it's hard to beat how the LWCG sticks pack to the stand. I'm playing around with their double steps, and I still keep going back to the minis because they are so streamlined.
@@MichiganAmBushOutdoors yeah that thin packing profile is the bees knees just hope I like the top single step while hanging the stand double steps are so nice in that regard
Great video! A couple of questions... Does the stand come with the backpack clip? or do you need to buy it separately Do you run it with a backpack? Thoughts about weight distribution? Do you like the mini sticks shown in the video? Thinking of getting the whole set-up once the .75 comes out.
Thank you. The stand comes with the backpack straps but not a waist belt. Don't quote me on this, but I believe the 1.0 comes with the waist belt but I could be wrong. I do run a backpack on the stand. For the most part, the weight distribution is good but once you get into late season and you're carrying more gear, the stand wants to tip back but I just take more slack out of the backpack straps and that helps. Keeping the pack tight to the stand also helps. I do like the mini sticks. I have since purchased a double step but I'm still leaning towards the minis but in all fairness, I haven't a ton a lot of testing with the doubles. the minis pack a lot nicer to the stand.
@@MichiganAmBushOutdoors Thanks for your response.... How do you think the Beast mini sticks would work? Maybe lay them staked on the seat and backpack on top?
That's one option or you could make longer J- Hooks (assuming you have the sticks with holes) and stack two on each side and leave the seat shelf free for your pack. I did a video showing how to make the J-hooks. It will cost you like 5 bucks for all the parts and you can have them any length.
@@MichiganAmBushOutdoors Yeah man I'm excited for sure. I am going to be using it as a hybrid set up with a saddle. Best of both worlds! Keep up the good work with the videos !!
There's a lot of nice saddles available. I want to check out the TX5 products in the of season. I did purchase a Dryad Killdeer harness, and I love that thing. So light and easy.
Thanks for the review, definitely thinking of going with the .5 as a hybrid system. Have you tried using the USA for attaching the stand instead of the cam buckle? I used one for attaching my predator platform and it worked great, wanted to do the same with the .5. Thanks again
I got a 2022 post season. Ready to use it this year. Just curious, my seat cushions ripped in the front at the attachment points sent LWCG pictures hoping to get 2 ones. How did your cushion hold up for hunting?
@@MichiganAmBushOutdoors I don’t feel like I did. But I might of might of occurred with doubling the seat cushions. Right now waiting for respond from LWCG. My opinion they could leave some more Material in those front loops but that is just mee
I agree. There isn't much there. Honestly, I would like to see a seat pad similar to the one that was on the original LW. That thing was comfortable. The LWCG pad is pretty cheap.
Thinking about getting a .5 or .75. Also thinking about ditching aiders all together and running 6 sticks instead. Could you tell me if 6 single step compact sticks will fit in the stand's grommet holes the way 4 sticks do? Would they end up hitting the seat or make the seat not fit in the frame lock mode?
Why would you want to carry six sticks vs. Running aiders? If you carried that many sticks, assuming three per side, you would have put purchase or make custom J-hooks to lock them to the stands and yes, you would have issues with the seat-locking feature.
@@MichiganAmBushOutdoors I've ran cable aiders on four novix minis for the last 3 years. I took them off this season and have been loving how much faster and easier it is to climb, just wish I could get a little higher up. They like to close up on the climb up, making it difficult to get my foot into on the climb down. They're also sometimes tricky to use in wonky or leaning trees when you're forced to place the stick at a weird angle. I thought about trying a versa aider that cinches to your foot, but I don't know if that would help with the weird angle issue. I only wanted to run 6 lwcg sticks if they fit properly in their system. Otherwise, I might just add two extra novix minis and save some money. Thanks for replying, I've been trying to find the answer to this for a while.
@@MichiganAmBushOutdoors Yeah, I have the ewo aiders. You have the lwcg ones right? How have they held up? I like how far they stick out from the tree. That's another problem I've had with the ewo's, they sit too close to the tree. Combine that with them also closing up and it makes it really difficult sometimes.
All the issues you mentioned are why I went back to the LWCG AIDERS. They are a lot nicer and would address a lot of your issues. For me, 95% of my hunting is mobile so having a heavy setup, that takes a while to set up and tear down, that takes forever to back up at night will eventually wear on you. I personally want to keep my light and efficient.
Sorry for the late reply. I am actually up north hunting 😁. I run the Savior Pouch. Here is the Amazon link. I also did a full video on this and how I installed it. amzn.to/3TuvvS9
Yes, and yes. You would have to move the rubber grommets to line up with the .5. The only downside is you would have a lot of overhang. The minis with cable aiders are the same length as the full length.
@@MichiganAmBushOutdoors If you were to have the full lengths with the .5 then would you be able set the rubber grommets up to have the over hang to where it would be hanging over the bottom towards your feet and not over your head? I’m just looking at full lengths for same reason I use the lone wolf sticks , longer sticks and more steps per stick means less process while hanging , 3-4 straps to set up vs 3-6 to get same height
You definitely can run them low so you don't have the overhang, but they could hit your legs when walking. You'll have to play around with them, but they will work.
How much adjustment is there with the rubber grommets on the full length sticks , I don’t have one to be able to see , are we talking several holes for the grommets at the Top and bottom of sticks?
@@MichiganAmBushOutdoors thanks! Sorry about that, I just have missed it. Appreciate the response though, and all the great content you put out! Thanks again!!
Thank you this is great. I’ve been hunting out of a saddle exclusively for the last 4 years but I’ve just found myself with a spot I need to sit where a tree stand is really the best way to hunt it. I think I can use the .5 as my back up system for spots like this. I have an old loan wolf but it’s just too big it gets hung up on too much stuff while I’m trying to slip in quietly.
Thank you🙏🏼. I'm glad you enjoyed the review.
It's a great stand.
Many people use it as a hybrid system and saddle hunt out of it. It's small and compact but can hunt for about 4-5 hours before I feel fatigued.
I'm only 5’8, so the short seat post doesn't bother me.
Thanks for answering my ?, never thought i would see it in a video. Lol. One thing I have done on a couple LW Assaults, is add a 1” dia spacer x 1” long at the seat post connection to push out the cables to help with the cable pinch if you want to stand as close to the tree along with stealth stripping the cables for noise. Thanks again.
No problem, man! Thanks for submitting the question.
I did a lousy job at showing how close you can get to the tree by standing with your feet offset, but I can get all the way back on the platform.
Hey man great video! I had a question, what bag is that you have under the seat? Can I have the info on where to get it? Thanks bro keep making great content!
Thank you! I appreciate it.
Here's the link for the bag:
amzn.to/3lU06tg
I’ve got a 1st gen .5 and it still amazes me how concerned people get over the edges. The fact they think they’re “sharp“ is just crazy to me. It just feels like an edge, it’s not even sharp.
Either way, great review. I’ve got 50+ sits on mine over the last 2 seasons and I can’t ever see myself using anything else until they some how make it better.
The edges don't bother me too much but I didn't want my backpack straps to cut over time because some of them you can't replace.
Other than that, the stand is fantastic, and I agree; I don't see myself ever running my LW Assualt unless it's a pre-hung set.
Thank you for watching!
Ordered a DS .5 last night and after a ton research decided to go with a set of beast stick minis to pair up with it they are just rock solid can’t wait to get it all together and see how I want to pack it out and get some reps in trees
Your only regret about the stand is that you didn't order it sooner!
I have never used the beast sticks, but iv heard good things, but The LWCG minis pack so nicely.
after a few weeks of having this set up I really like the beast sticks they are so solid only problem is there is just no good option for packing them out at least for my liking so I went ahead and ordered four LWCG 17” minis and two 17” aiders you are 100% correct can’t get around how awesome they pack to the .5 I will keep the beast sticks for my Novix helo and use that set up to hang and leave up in different spots for quick after work hunts
Yeah, it's hard to beat how the LWCG sticks pack to the stand. I'm playing around with their double steps, and I still keep going back to the minis because they are so streamlined.
@@MichiganAmBushOutdoors yeah that thin packing profile is the bees knees just hope I like the top single step while hanging the stand double steps are so nice in that regard
It does take a few hunts to get used to them.
Thank you very much for sharing this. I definitely would like to see how you will pack the double sticks once they come in. Please do a video on it! 🤩
As soon as I get my double step and play around with it, I'll definitely make another video showing how ill run the two minis and the double.
Thanks for watching and submitting the questions.
Great in depth review brother. Thx for sharing🤙
Thanks Todd!
Thanks a lot for answering every single question I asked . Great video
No problem. Thank you for submitting the question and watching the video.
Great video! A couple of questions...
Does the stand come with the backpack clip? or do you need to buy it separately
Do you run it with a backpack? Thoughts about weight distribution?
Do you like the mini sticks shown in the video?
Thinking of getting the whole set-up once the .75 comes out.
Thank you.
The stand comes with the backpack straps but not a waist belt. Don't quote me on this, but I believe the 1.0 comes with the waist belt but I could be wrong.
I do run a backpack on the stand. For the most part, the weight distribution is good but once you get into late season and you're carrying more gear, the stand wants to tip back but I just take more slack out of the backpack straps and that helps. Keeping the pack tight to the stand also helps.
I do like the mini sticks. I have since purchased a double step but I'm still leaning towards the minis but in all fairness, I haven't a ton a lot of testing with the doubles. the minis pack a lot nicer to the stand.
@@MichiganAmBushOutdoors Thanks for your response.... How do you think the Beast mini sticks would work? Maybe lay them staked on the seat and backpack on top?
That's one option or you could make longer J- Hooks (assuming you have the sticks with holes) and stack two on each side and leave the seat shelf free for your pack.
I did a video showing how to make the J-hooks. It will cost you like 5 bucks for all the parts and you can have them any length.
Great job on the review - coming from a guy that is about to pull the trigger on this system! Are those the 17” minis?
Thank you.
Yes, these are the 17” minis with 20” cable aiders.
Ordered a .5 and 3 doubles with aiders last month ...still waiting on it to arrive but so pumped for it I think its going to be an awesome set up!
it's worth the wait. On the plus side, you'll get the rounded edges on the stand and sticks.
For me, This system was a game changer.
@@MichiganAmBushOutdoors Yeah man I'm excited for sure. I am going to be using it as a hybrid set up with a saddle. Best of both worlds! Keep up the good work with the videos !!
There's a lot of nice saddles available. I want to check out the TX5 products in the of season.
I did purchase a Dryad Killdeer harness, and I love that thing. So light and easy.
Thanks for the review, definitely thinking of going with the .5 as a hybrid system. Have you tried using the USA for attaching the stand instead of the cam buckle? I used one for attaching my predator platform and it worked great, wanted to do the same with the .5. Thanks again
Thank you!
I have not tried the USAs on the stand but it is definitely something I’m going to test out in the off season.
I got a 2022 post season. Ready to use it this year. Just curious, my seat cushions ripped in the front at the attachment points sent LWCG pictures hoping to get 2 ones. How did your cushion hold up for hunting?
Did you have the velcro too tight? Mine had held up pretty well.
@@MichiganAmBushOutdoors
I don’t feel like I did. But I might of might of occurred with doubling the seat cushions. Right now waiting for respond from LWCG. My opinion they could leave some more Material in those front loops but that is just mee
I agree. There isn't much there.
Honestly, I would like to see a seat pad similar to the one that was on the original LW. That thing was comfortable.
The LWCG pad is pretty cheap.
Great informative video. Thanks for sharing.
You're welcome! Thanks for watching and for the kind words.
Do you ever use the cut out in the foot platform for the cam on your bow to sit in?
No. I believe that is made specifically for the LOBO Bow from LWCG, but I did add the LWCG Sidekick bow holder, and that thing is awesome.
I like that seat pouch where can i get one for my .5 stand?
Here's the link:
amzn.to/3qrGvDU
I also made a video on how I attached it to the point .5
Thinking about getting a .5 or .75. Also thinking about ditching aiders all together and running 6 sticks instead. Could you tell me if 6 single step compact sticks will fit in the stand's grommet holes the way 4 sticks do? Would they end up hitting the seat or make the seat not fit in the frame lock mode?
Why would you want to carry six sticks vs. Running aiders?
If you carried that many sticks, assuming three per side, you would have put purchase or make custom J-hooks to lock them to the stands and yes, you would have issues with the seat-locking feature.
@@MichiganAmBushOutdoors I've ran cable aiders on four novix minis for the last 3 years. I took them off this season and have been loving how much faster and easier it is to climb, just wish I could get a little higher up. They like to close up on the climb up, making it difficult to get my foot into on the climb down. They're also sometimes tricky to use in wonky or leaning trees when you're forced to place the stick at a weird angle. I thought about trying a versa aider that cinches to your foot, but I don't know if that would help with the weird angle issue. I only wanted to run 6 lwcg sticks if they fit properly in their system. Otherwise, I might just add two extra novix minis and save some money. Thanks for replying, I've been trying to find the answer to this for a while.
Are you running the EWO cable aiders?
@@MichiganAmBushOutdoors Yeah, I have the ewo aiders. You have the lwcg ones right? How have they held up? I like how far they stick out from the tree. That's another problem I've had with the ewo's, they sit too close to the tree. Combine that with them also closing up and it makes it really difficult sometimes.
All the issues you mentioned are why I went back to the LWCG AIDERS. They are a lot nicer and would address a lot of your issues.
For me, 95% of my hunting is mobile so having a heavy setup, that takes a while to set up and tear down, that takes forever to back up at night will eventually wear on you.
I personally want to keep my light and efficient.
I know this is an old video but what kind of pouch is that you have on the under side of your seat?
Sorry for the late reply. I am actually up north hunting 😁.
I run the Savior Pouch. Here is the Amazon link. I also did a full video on this and how I installed it.
amzn.to/3TuvvS9
Did you get you double step in and if so how are you running it with the minis
I did but I didn't care for the double steps so I'm back to running tree singles.
I use 2 minis and a 14 in double horizontal with a rubber spacer I can use 2 j hooks to secure all 3
Can you send me a picture? I couldn't mount the double horizontally because of the seat post
@@MichiganAmBushOutdoors
Yes I can send you a picture if I can figure out how to do so
You can message me on instagram
Love mine.
It's an awesome stand.
I started running the fix saddle platform in 2022. Another great LWCG Product.
Would 4 full length lwcg sticks pack with the .5 the same as the 1.0 , would the seat still be able to be a “bench” for my pack ?
Yes, and yes. You would have to move the rubber grommets to line up with the .5. The only downside is you would have a lot of overhang.
The minis with cable aiders are the same length as the full length.
@@MichiganAmBushOutdoors If you were to have the full lengths with the .5 then would you be able set the rubber grommets up to have the over hang to where it would be hanging over the bottom towards your feet and not over your head? I’m just looking at full lengths for same reason I use the lone wolf sticks , longer sticks and more steps per stick means less process while hanging , 3-4 straps to set up vs 3-6 to get same height
You definitely can run them low so you don't have the overhang, but they could hit your legs when walking. You'll have to play around with them, but they will work.
@@MichiganAmBushOutdoors yea the hitting the legs could be a problem from time to time I have that on my assault and lone wolf sticks
How much adjustment is there with the rubber grommets on the full length sticks , I don’t have one to be able to see , are we talking several holes for the grommets at the Top and bottom of sticks?
What pouches are those that you have mounted under the seats?
I put a link in the description.
It's a savior pouch.
@@MichiganAmBushOutdoors thanks! Sorry about that, I just have missed it. Appreciate the response though, and all the great content you put out! Thanks again!!
No worries, man and thank you! I appreciate the support 👊🏼
Not anymore the new Mia xop retrograde is lighter assembled in America waterjetted it’s lighter cheaper and has a higher weight rating
That all sounds great but we will see.
@@MichiganAmBushOutdoors you also don’t need to take a dermal to them lol. Good vid 😊
That is a plus.
Thank you!
Everybody, I am taking donations so I can purchase this stand. It's going to a good cause
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Those were my grandfather's Navy dolphins. He retired from the Navy but unfortunately, he passed away in 2019.
They are high dollar
Yes, they are not cheap.
SO MUCH FOR PAYING BIG MONEY FOR "CUSTOM!" I HAVE THEM, I LIKE THEM, BUT!
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What kind of pack is that on the bottom of the seat, and where did you get it?
Heres the link:
amzn.to/47BYCKV