Overtime: Marianne Williamson, Vivek Ramaswamy | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)
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OverTime needs to be another hour added.
I think Rogan actually suggested Bill should turn overtime into a podcast that runs 1 or 2 hours.
@Edward Milano
No, Bill is a visual creature, a podcast would cut in half his message
At lease 45mins,IJS.
@@pedrolopes3542 Podcasts are in video form too.
The show needs to die.
Honestly I found Marianne and Vivek to be very well intended. Ideally this is how people with different viewpoints should argue. I loved it when Marianne agreed to Vivek at 8:49 and at then Vivek pointing out that it is a complicated issue anyway. Very respectful. If we really want our intellect to progress, we HAVE to keep our ego aside.
Give everyone shrooms. There doesn't seem to be any other way, 99.5% of people cannot rid themselves of their egos on their own and don't have 30 years to live in a cave meditating
I can learn Mariannes whole policy platform in a dozen sound bites.. Vivek has deep systemic understanding.
Vivek is always a gentleman and never tries to do all the "gotcha crap". Very likable
Yeah.. snow flake that’s how you slap people for their stupid..
Fail their argument and say .. Gotcha
sorry you are having a miserable life. Hope it gets better for you.@@vamsikrishna3855
He got a "fuckin'" into the conversation. I guess he wanted to appear as presidential as trump.
not just Trump, pretty much anyone else except maybe Pence. His swearing makes him more relatable. I had not ever heard him swear before. Thank you for bringing it to our attention. GO VIVEK!@@joelmogensen579
@@joelmogensen579the hell are you talking about?
America needs more of this. Intelligent people sitting down face to face, discussing differences in opinion in a civil way, UNMEDIATED by technology.
Easily the best Real Time in a while. Pretty amazing how Marianne and Vivek are on different sides of the aisle yet they agree on so much and there's almost a synergy between them.
No. He's a hard-core Libertarian
Some great back-and-forth between them tonight.
@@DJKairos88 you'd be surprised how often classical libertarians agree with progressives on government corruption and inefficiency. Different ideas on how to fix it but ultimately try to achieve the same goal of a clean and honest government that works for the people.
@@anthonywatson6070 He definitely doesn't understand the layers of private insurance bureaucracy that's added 30-40% of cost to US health care. Profit accounts for a small portion when considering hospital invoicing personnel, insurance company staffing, sales departments, audit, fraud, travel and so on. I have no issue for private insurance companies if it's like that of Europe for those who want private rooms, plastic surgery, and other supplemental coverage. I have issue when we as Americans pay 30-50% more for healthcare than the rest of the world and hospitals hold us hostage with our lives.
@@anthonywatson6070 Indeed. A Hitchens 'progressive' may agree with you.
This was the best discussion on a Bill Maher show in a long time. Actually discussing the issues that effect people instead of the fabricated culture wars.
I'm shocked nobody mentioned the media used to be the referees between big business and the government. They now carry the water for both leaving the people confused and misinformed
Both guests could carry on with/without Bill. I'm so happy to see Marianne Williamson public speaking! A treat to hear her reasonable voice coming from a genuine place of love. I hope she can run for Senator if not President. We need her leadership skills to Unify Independents as a new political party.
A People's Party 😎
What do you mean by "fabricated culture wars" ?
@@SPQR7117 arguments on ideology...?
Always a great conversation when Bill brings on a strong progressive. I hope he does it more often
I love Vivek. Got his book months ago. It’s awesome. He’s awesome.
Really?
@@annechris2677
Sit your sass down, Anne
He’s terrible.
@@tecumseh4095why is he terrible?
Vivek brings it every time. Never seen him flustered.
Are these bot comments?
Recommend he skip the F-bomb next time.
@@babyloonbees7037 Aww that's cute. We have 45 K People dying every year because of lack of healthcare and you are more concerned with a fucking word.
The Indian guy voted for his first time in 2020…he is another con man. He knows how to sucker in stupid people…don’t be fooled
@@babyloonbees7037what?
If Overtime had gone for an hour with these guests, I'd have still been here watching it. This panel was phenomenal.
Totally agree!
the show should be an 1 hour of overtime, at least
Phenomenal? She is a utter halfwit and not worth giving the time of day. Lol If you find her remarkable, join a MLM.
maybe if they would talk with each other and would not just shout Bills opinion down at everyone who has different opinions than he has.
@@ralphalf5897 i guess you weren't listening
Never have I seen Bill quietly sit and let guests debate at such lengths. What a great show this week. It was New Rules before I knew it was even half way in.
Yes but he needs to shut up even more.
The only problem was that literally EVRYTHING he said about the Canadian "truckers" protest was absolute wank. So spectacularly ignorant of the facts. He just gave cover to a faux movement led by known white supremacists.
Really need some longer interviews. Time to move on when things are just starting to get interesting.
Stupid. The man brings these brains together. Enjoy the fukn show because there will be nothing like this ever again
Why not have Candice Owen as a panelist speaking from the conservative side? Or Mark Levin for that matter! If they're so convinced they are on the right side of things why the fear of rational conversation?
One thing I’ve noticed about Vivek is how well he listens. He seems genuinely interested in what the other side has to say. He may disagree and try to tear it down but always listens when opposing viewpoints are brought up.
Since both Vivek and Marianne are running for president, imagine these two being the democratic and republican nominees and they debate each other on the presidential debate stage in 2024!!!
He's gonna talk over her!
Yea okay, you think the American ppl can pick anyone else other than Biden or Trump? they're too lazy
Vivek would obliterate her lol
Two very intelligent guests this week with opposing viewpoints but great back and forth , my favourite show this year Bill !
It was nice that they were able to respectfully disagree.
@@nunchk9542 Sure, he was intelligent. It's his kind that are ripping people off.
So what's the excuses for slow internet? Outdated electric grid? 60 million people drinking lead? Slow trains?
Marianne is 🗑️
@@nunchk9542 She's incredibly intelligent and just because you don't like what she's saying doesn't make it any less true.
The one dude was smart. Bill is smart. The other guest - not so much.
Quality guests with clear ideas and contributions. Engaging topics, real time!
Fucking right my friend!
Vivek is terrific. Good stuff
No way, they didn’t actually say anything.
@@wartome3196 true Vivkic seemed to be stuck on a loop about PPP and Marianne was stuck on the insurance loop.
@@CharlieTWilbury Vivek supports the patriarchy!
Vivek running for office actually gives me some hope. He’s well-informed, articulative, finds common ground w/ opponents without conceding his ideas, and has good instincts.
Yep!
Nah, he just relegates petty culture war issues at to being the cause of corporate and government corruption, he has no interest in cutting into the socioeconomic stratification that is plaguing the current state of affairs
@@adenizenabroad9593 🤡
@adenizenabroad9593 literally said break down the market and hand the money to the people. I've never voted republican in my life but you gotta admit he's hitting home on that
We’ve had politicians like Vivek before. Unfortunately it’s the Trumps and Bidens who end up winning. The really sad thing is that Trump won’t debate Vivek and Biden won’t debate RFK. And neither need to, because there are enough partisans ready to elect them regardless of what they say or do.
"People in a system respond to incentives." - Vivek Ramaswamy
If more people understood that simple concept, we would be solving many more problems - and we would understand why the founders wanted the smallest government possible.
What's wrong with the government providing incentives?
@@thewaffle003 Because its a nightmare bureaucracy
@@littledickydolittle3071 So get good people in there who run it right. Gov't is supposed to be a tool of the people. Let's make it that way
@@thewaffle003 The US government was never intended to be a "tool of the people". The US government was intended to protect the individual's natural rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
If you want government to shape society by incentives and coercion, move to China or N. Korea.
@@bills5009 The government is a "tool of the people" designed to protect the individual's natural rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
Can you stop repeating what I'm saying?
This was an incredible episode full of outstanding guests, stimulating discussions and one quiet, observant host for once. They were like three old friends over for dinner & having a healthy debate by the fireplace. That's how you put on a good show, Bill.
💯 yes indeed!
Best show in months, please watch it again, there was a lot to digest!
Yes, lately I've felt that Bill has been interjecting too much of his own views to the detriment of the guests. But in this case, the guests were quicker than he was and they had a very lively conversation _with each other_ that was productive with minimal interaction from Bill.
He interrupted too many times.
@@Unfamous_Buddha
He does that now. This show used to be great because Bill would have experts on and let them talk ... now, or in the last at least two years he constantly interrupts, and not for any real reason.
These are the types of conversations intelligent Americans need to be having. Brilliant panel discussion.
except the poor woman (who's mostly talking rubbish) ain't allowed to finish what she wants to say as the other two tend to overpower her on this occasion.
@@rakoczi29 She ain't talking rubbish. She is telling the truth very few in mainstream ever admit to.
try watching the BBC Question Time once
@@rakoczi29 Bill is guilty of interrupting his panelists as well. If I was subjected to that, I would lose my train of thought. I’d also feel frustrated and pissed off.
It's BS excuses for the private system to keep on looting the people
Ramaswamy with Marianne! Engaged and each spot on. Wonderful Overtime💓
I agree, but Ramaswamy was in fact more informed than Marianne
Vivek answer to everything is to shut it down lol
So glad you gave your guests plenty of room to speak tonight with minimal interruptions
This! Fuckin' let them go at it! The show was lightyears better tonight for it.
He let one of the guests do all the interrupting for him
The guests were intelligent and eloquent-no need to constantly interrupt
Bill.
Help ! HELP US BILL.
You're like a yapping Chawla.
Never mind.
It ain't your job.
Bill is pro pharma.
Love these 3 people, very different but they have their heart at the right place. They actually do want to improve people’s lives.
Yeah, Vivek especially wants to improve his own life.
Marianne has no idea what she is talking about with regards to Economics and Healthcare. God I hope she doesnt run for office again.
I liked Vivek and Marianne's interactions. Because they might seem like opposites but they aren't necessarily. A lot of corporate power comes from the corporate/congress interactions from the government dabbing into the economy and then justifying lobbying as a "necessary evil for proper representation of regulated parties".
We need to ban lobbying and put up a wall between the government and corporations. Instead of subsidising and regulating every aspect of healthcare, we need make health insurance public sector and only issue standards for which the insurance covers.
@@rollinmark8952 exactly! She fail so many time lmao
I was Vivek’s chauffeur. Cool, down to earth cat.
Vivek and Marianne is the ultimate crossover.
They get along, but boy are they different.
Two intelligent sincere people. And Bill
Oy that was mean, but kinda true.
This was the best show I've seen all year. Great guests and opinions 👍
Touche: Bill wasn't BITCHING over MASKS, canceled GIGS & his TAX RATES (too much)
Bring them back and just let them talk. I could not get enough of their wonderful dialogue.
This was a perfectly balanced panel. This was one of the best Bill Maher episodes I've seen. They all spoke clearly and let each other speak.
I love the fact he evolves his thoughts and is not afraid to say he was wrong. Thanks bill although I disagree with you on alot I truly enjoy your point of view!
I love Marianne so much. Thinking about her life, what an incredible person.
Yeah just what we need more progressives, …..just ask San Francisco Lmao !!!
@@ZapataE I can tell that you probably know nothing about San Francisco.
@@meowtasia02 No I’ve only lived here in the Mission all my life, meanwhile you probably moved here from Idaho to come out of the closet .
@@ZapataE - but she calls them out for being idiots too. She’s more of what a progressive used to be: legalizing marijuana, taxes the rich, healthcare for all rather than identity politics and she tends to be much more reasonable and logical. I don’t agree with her on everything but I think she’s one of the few genuine people
She is great. What is Lmao?
I appreciated everyone in this conversation. We need a third party that marries these ideas 💡 btw I’m a pharmacist and the way to reduce costs is to let Medicare use collective bargaining to negotiate lower prices, something they’re explicitly prohibited from doing bc of a law Big pharma lobbied for. Bill is 100% right, the major culprit is pharma
The bureaucracy is the problem because governments are the problem
@@michaelferri6790 I’ve never heard anyone other than authoritarians say this though… unless we count anarcho-communists.
And there are about 9 of them.
I agree about big pharma, but to say the insurance companies aren't a problem is a fallacy.
I like what you're saying, but at least Pharmaceuticals are necessary.
But insurance? Not. At. All.
It has certainly worked in Australia. We have the PBS (Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme)
Is it just me or is Marianne ... what's the non-"me too" way of saying this... easy on the eyes. Well spoken & intelligent too. Great discussion.
During the regular episode, Bill letting this panel discuss while just sitting back was excellent
Best episode of 2022 so far.
My late husband got sick while stationed overseas. He received an MRI at a public Spanish hospital. Our bill was $300 for it, it was charged to military insurance. I saw someone's bill when we were back stateside for the same issue that was $8600 for the same MRI. The problem is that Healthcare is for profit in this country. The insurance companies negotiate their rates heavily because they actually know the ACTUAL cost of Healthcare from overseas data. Healthcare is for profit in this country... that's the issue... its immoral to make money on the pain and suffering of others.
As a Spanish citizen, when I'm ill, my bill at the end is $0.
Everything in the USA is for profit.
A similar thing happened to my daughter when she was an intern in France. She got a knee injury. She had to go to the hospital and get physical therapy as well. She got concerned when she never received a bill for her treatment. She went to the Hospital and asked about the bill. The receptionist said, "There is no bill. We have universal health care here."
@@ohbeammeup42 Yes, so Ramaswarmy's solution is for the government to do away with Medicaid and Medicare and dole out money so people can go purchase private health insurance. I'm sure that would fix the problem in our for profit health care system. "Hey, look, I got a new policy with only a $10,000 deductible from money the government gave me. I should be okay now." LOL.
@@wildfire60 that's one of the fallacies of the Republican talking point to shop around and let the market decide price. It's a monopoly and there's also price fixing.
I broke my leg here in Canada yesterday. Went to hospital, had 4 nurses looking after me, a great doctor, had multiple xrays, a ct scan to check for internal bleeds as my blood pressure was low. Got casted up. Will see fracture clinic Tuesday and be monitored regularly for issues (I am a quadriplegic). At the end my bill will be $0.00
Much appreciation for Marianne Williamson.
Marianne Williamson was actually incredible,
she was saying nonstop great point after great point
@Sebastian “Capitalism will solve all our problems 😃” - Vivek
That's great and all but nothing will change with the Republicans or Democrats.
Watch her talkshow here on YT. She's quite brilliant and rightly-guided. You come away thinking: why was she scorned and overlooked so quickly in presidential primaries?
This show needed to be longer. Even overtime wasn't enough.
Bill should have a long form podcast
@@dougatfuto5 He was great on Rogan.
One of the best episodes I've seen in a while - worth watching the whole thing, if you have access. Rare example of a passionate but amicable debate. Also, it would be great to see them have a longer discussion in a setting with less of a time pressure, and without the distraction of audience feedback. Maybe a job for Sam Harris or Joe Rogan?
What Bill said about hospitals wanting to run at capacity is 100% true. I work for hospital systems and I can tell you that bed capacity rates are something (pre-pandemic) that they are always trying to do to maximize profits... and many of these systems are "non-profit" entities, but their executives still make 7 figures.
Excellent show! The guests were engaging and spot on. Really wish there was a third party to vote for in this country with legitimate candidates.
There are 4 parties in this country. Green, Democrat (Blue), Republican (Red), and Libertarian (Gold). If you want Green and Gold to have more power, start supporting them instead of writing them off.
@@abigailhubbard1055Yeah, no. Throwing your vote away only diminishes your political power.
This is the first time in a long time I have seen speakers talk about the real problem, mainly the disparity of wealth in America, which is ever widening, and the reason behind that. Also that our entire government is corrupt. Government officials are bought by corporations, and then these Congress people vote in favor of whatever the corporations want. We need to get more discussions like this, especially from the average citizen.
So you enjoyed hearing three wealthy, privileged people speak on wealth disparity as if though these people aren't the ones who don't want to give it up? Really?!
@@linger4605 your response gives me the impression that you either didn't watch this episode or didn't understand who was making which points.
@@aaguadam You obviously didn't understand my point.
Because they have taken control of all trigger narratives and keep people fighting each other and losing the class struggle.
Wow Marianne is so likeable
"The French aristocrats a week before the masses made it to the Bastille" Marianne sees it coming
Espérons !
She does indeed!
@@rockonmadonna Boycottez notre comté s'il vous plait!
There was only one prisoner in the Bastille at the time of its storming. An aristocrat: the Marquis de Sade. Just saying.
@@davidyohalem629 i think there were seven prisoners in the Bastille at that time.
Best show so far this year.
Agreed. Felt like the old Real Time tonight.
Had thought she was a joke. I was wrong!!! If I could go back in time I'd redo my primary vote.
Don't worry
you were right
She is a joke
Tune in to her talkshow on YT. She's constantly brilliant.
This was a fantastic episode. Great debate and discussion.
9:19 It took Maher the entire segment to get Williamson’s point.
Every time he has her on, he talks over her, and gets his guests to do the same. When they were alone, he made her apologize to him for calling him a curmudgeon!
@@aaroncarson1770 seriously? ugh
i have a love/hate relationship to Maher. His stand up mostly sucks, but when his new rules is on point, which is most of the time, it’s great. problem is his anti wokeness blinds him to reality
@@ClownCarCoup It was kind of hilarious, and she did apologize to his ruffled feathers, but I've long found that talk show hosts use their guests to platform themselves. I liked Parkinson from England. He used to draw his guests out, and barely said anything.
Love the fired up panel tonight and bill you took a backseat which is so cute
I think Vivek got into Donnie Jr.'s powder stash.
@Red Comet Nervous enough that I checked the speed on the video when he started talking. 🤣
Lol!
Or Ricky Williams’ Adderall.
Ahhh the closest I’ve gotten to see Marianne debate the 2024 candidates 😌 this was by far a more productive conversation than what I’ve seen in the last couple of debates 👌
Imagine if 2024 is Vivek vs Marianne
Excellent debate and banter between the guests. Tonight‘s was an excellent show!
Bill it's really good to see you back🙂
He's been back for a month-you been sampling Ricky Williams' product? 😄
Excellent discussion by all. Agree would like to hear an expanded version
This was a fantastic segment. Best I've seen in awhile and it's refreshing.
This is the greatest episode ever. Bruh I’m so high
lol
One of the smartest things I ever heard someone say on tv. The rich and powerful can’t see the world the way normal people do.
No two people see the world same way.
Bill’s show has gotten increasingly important. To see a historically left wing individual stay in tune with his ideals yet not bow down to woke ideology is refreshing.
Marianne is right on, take out the insurance middle men. Bill is correct: stop the gougers from gouging. A bag of saline and an MRI should not cost 6000 dollars. Vivek is also correct: other countries are riding on the back of US medical innovation. Take profit out of the medical system.
Great Show this week Bill. This show actually felt like a Dialogue as opposed to differences of opinion!! Yourself and your 2 well spoken and intelligent guests made the show very informative!! BRAVO! We need more of this. No doubt something drastically needs to happen to Our Country and it’s political system. I remember ( I think it was back in 1970 ) I was 18 years old. There was an announcement on the news that the United States Government had just become the Country’s Largest Employer. That’s right, more people were working for the U.S. Government than in the Private Sector!! This was the 1st sign of the shit show it had the chance to become.
One point I’d like to make Bill is this. The Government is always trying to fix Healthcare like they don’t know how to make Healthcare work. They seem to have it worked out just fine for themselves. So, it’s not that they don’t know how to do it, it’s the fact they don’t want us having as good as they do!! With Our Money I might add!!!!
Well said. Thank you.
In 2020, more ppl were working for the government than any single company. that doesn't mean there are more people in the public sector vs the private sector.
THAT IS BECAUSE: THE UNITED STATES MILITARY SEES THE STRATEGIC, TACTICAL, AND HONORABLE ADVANTAGE OF HAVING PERSONNEL THAT HAVE A GOOD EDUCATION AND GOOD HEALTHCARE. THE CIVILIANS IN THIS COUNTRY NEED TO LEARN A THING OR TWO FROM THE MILITARY. The civilians won't have a choice with all these wars the military keeps losing. The chickens will come home to roost. The civilians will have to learn how to SURVIVE in this world if they are going to make it.
dialogue ? they kept interrupting and talking over Marianne !
Fucking Libertarian Vivek should have been shut-up with MEDICARE COST 2% overhead compared to 20%+ private insurer !
@@moestietabarnak they interrupted her a few times, but there were far fewer interruptions this week than in most episodes.
That’s right, more people were working for the U.S. Government than in the Private Sector!!
you heard wrong.
from google:
In 2020, ... than the number of federal government (civilian) employees, which stood at about 2.93 million
what you probably heard was more ppl were working for the government than any single company.
that's probably true.
I love Bill's glasses.
He looks like a NASA nerd from the 1960's.
I want those frames.
Why is this being upvoted? These are different frames.
more like jack benny ..
This retroactively became a presidential debate
I'm revisiting this due to a craving for such.
This was awesome, obviously they disagree on a series of issues, but it feels like a group of friends having a discussion about what's going on in our country each actually hearing, understanding, and learning from one another. Hope to have a circle of people with differing perspectives to have discussions with like this one day.... Vivek Ramaswamy 2024, he's awesome!
Probably the most informative show I’ve watched in a while!
I agree.
I'm worried if the Daily Show will be able to compete. but then again, Stephen Colbert still gets a lot of clicks and his show doesn't teach me anything!
I couldn't follow it because the Indian was speaking so quickly.
@@jsbankston1963 He's an American.
This conversation is awesome.
One thing to remember is the insurance/Healthcare provider interaction. The "$15000 for a hip replacement" is generally a fake number from the hospital demanded by the insurance companies so they can claim they had to pay $15000 while only paying $1000. Then they can pocket the other $14000 while still not touching into their profit limits. This is where a lot of that "only 11 billion in profit" comes from. They are making WAY more profit than that, but they don't have to claim most of it as profit, because they get to claim they are paying a fake price.
The insurance companies need to go.
"they don't have to claim most of it as profit, because they get to claim they are paying a fake price."
So the insurers are claiming they're paying the full price to the IRS? And the SEC? And no one has caught them (and their auditors) yet in a massive fraud?
Insurers definitely pay a negotiated price to hospitals, but there's no magic money that gets "pocketed". Premiums - expenses = profit.
Bill is wrong about the $11B though.... last year, just Cigna made that much in profit.
WebX - but where does the other $14000 come from? So, last year I had a surgical procedure down. My doc billed the insurance $6000. Ins Co. comes back and says "no way, Jose" we will pay you $4000. The Doc excepts it because the rates have all been pre-determined anyway. So again, in my case, where would The $2000 come from? It doesn't even exist, does it? Help a brother out her Web
@@rollinmark8952 It's considered a "loss carry-forward" --- it reduces their taxes, so it's effectively income.
@@cheponis Ahhh yes, Thank you Mike
@@holycrapchris Agreed. The insurance companies do make a profit (Cigna has around 5% profit margin), but they're not in cahoots with the hospitals to pocket money on the side.
Whatever rate they're taxing Bill at, it's not enough.
Marianne is my favorite "politician". The trouble has been that she's been too far ahead of everybody. NOW is the time - do it Marianne! 🌟. The biggest project I look at to confirm the "all talk" no action government/corporate gravy train (all paid for by your tax dollars) are all the Climate Change "Conferences" and outcome....
Overtime! Great show from Alabama!
Big hello from nyc smoking a fattie n watching
Excellent discussions. This is one of the best shows I've seen .
Only real political show and for wonks.
Marianne Williamson... she has a good vibe about her... every look, smirk, bit of wit, shes good. I like her. WHO IS SHE!? lol we need more Marianne.
I'm voting for Marianne Williamson
Since you are talking of Marianne's future, this was her best presentation ever. She came across as knowledgeable, and well spoken. I would vote for her as President,
and Bill Maher could be the Vice President. How does that sound?!!
Pretty terrible, actually. Bill functions as an outsider. He complains, but doesn't really propose any solutions to his complaints.
This is probably the best episode of Overtime they really deep into the subject matter
Not really
Thank You Marianne ! Your Spot On!
For those wondering about socialized medicine here are a few of our experiences in Canada:
1. A few years ago my husband had a dangerous infection near his eye which required IV antibiotics. He was in the hallway for 3 days, finally got a bed on day 4 before he was released. Luckily he was young and healthy enough to stay in his own clothes and use the public bathroom/shower. I will never forget my frail sick grandmother crying on a stretcher in the hospital hallway. Btw both these incidents were many years pre-pandemic
2. Our neighbour required a hip replacement. Yes it was free but the wait-list was a year. Don't forget in these cases the person's physical condition continues to deteriorate. There is no private option for those who can afford to "skip the queue".
3. A good friend just waited a year to have an invasive procedure to fix an irregular heartbeat after 2 failed ablations. Again, covered by the health system, but the wait for a potentially fatal condition was ridiculous.
Oh, and our taxes in Canada? Much higher than those in the US.
And I can give you hundreds and thousands of examples of people who die every day in America from not having ANY healthcare...So, not sure your point?..
And why are taxes higher in Canada? Primarily to fund health care. Privatize it and taxes fall, but then what? Salaries crash, bankruptcies soar, medical debts saddle most people (as they do in the States). It's whack-a-mole, madam-but with single-payer the mole isn't the size of a bear.
🤨Why would you want the health insurance industry to be the largest and most profitable in the country?
So figure out ways to make socialized Healthcare more efficient, so that it can be quicker and effective but also not financially devastating. Not sure why people throw up their hands and insist that there's no other way than whatever broken systems already exist.
Thank you sharing your experience with us. So sorry you have to wait so long for necessary treatment!
At least in Canda you cant go into debt for having cancer
How far human civilization can go if everyone works together... ..
Not far, because that will be against evolutionary forces
@@Manish_Kumar_Singh ever heard of E.O. Wilson?
@@eemoogee160
Na, but if he is a man of science, he too will not disagree
Well, it really depends on attitude. Even when those chose to work together it doesn't always work. I.E. The kalmar Union.
@@Manish_Kumar_Singh look it up Einstein
Great panel. Guests like Marianne have long memories and remember a time when the MSM wasn't enforcing ideological neutrality and when politics wasn't just glorified informational management. Important to listen to her, if not buy into all the woowoo.
I've seen many interviews with Marianne Williamson. I've never seen her explain how the economics of what she proposes will work out. The government solves many of our problems, but it also causes a whole heck of a lot of them.
Tax the rich, spend the money on targeted programs for the poor. Simple
100% agree with Bill's last comment on the show. "Oh, thank you! That was super fun!"
Universal healthcare would solve SO many problems. AND save money
On paper it sounds great but it’s foolish to believe the Federal Government would be able to efficiently manage it. They already have too many responsibilities, which they’re failing at. How many times do people have to get screwed over before they realize that giving the Federal Government more money is not the answer?
@@bcon2608 They manage it okay in Canada and other countries with universal healthcare.
It's been shown that it CAN be done in other countries, so we know it's possible, so the USA can make it happen as well. No excuses.
How? We have 50 different states. We also have the most obese population of every Country in the world. We spout freedom every chance that we get. So people vape and smoke and weed is legal almost everywhere. Alcoholism and opiate addiction is a pandemic. Yeah paying for rehab ad nauseam because it doesn't work will save money.
When the government operates efficiently, I'll sign on to medicare for all.
@@therightway2412 Google healthcare spending per capita by country. Google healthcare outcomes per capita by country. The US ranks dead last in outcomes and has BY FAR the most spending per person. You pay more for healthcare here than in Canada and receive worse care. Note that Canada is also a very bad healthcare system.
I learned so much watching the full episode & Overtime. Time well spent!
When Vivek speaks it makes me think like I’ve hit the 2x speed button.
I have lived in europe for 13 years, this whole socialized medicine allows people to:
1. visit their doctors as many times as they need(granted, some take that for granted)
2. it's not free, people pay for it.
3. doctors are situated to best meet
population.
4. there is a gov't agency that puts a cap
on drug prices, so companies can't jack
up the prices for profit.
this fearmongering that politicians use in u.s. is crazy.
the above mentioned were in netherlands, so other countries are slightly different.
True and Europe is broke 😩
@@oliveoil7642 Europe and U.S. financially are bankrupt, what I mentioned was true then, now it is a bit different, more expense. but compared to us, Netherlands and Western Europe still have better healthcare outcome than u.s because there is no big business involved, there is a cap per health agency, and there is less per capita spending. in u.s, gross mis management, we spend more per American, yet we are screwed.
@@oliveoil7642 So is America...And I would rather our country be broke and each citizen have healthcare than our country be broke and folks don't have healthcare. Further, we are bigger than Europe and last I checked, supposedly exceptional...you don't think we can come up with a BETTER system?..
Let’s compare the health of the average American to your average Swede or Norwegian.. that’s the real reason why healthcare is so broken and expensive here .. it’s the substrate
This episode had a much different mood than any I've seen so far you could feel it. Bill Maher is unintentionally becoming the unifying voice for people that are just sick of it.
The reaction to the crowd when Vivek spoke made me optimistic. He knows exactly what’s going on. I haven’t read his book but I’m ordering it now. Stakeholder capitalism aka The Great R eset is NOT the answer.
@@brainchildguru the smoke is starting to clear and everyone is noticing it. Fringe movements are starting to fizzle and will be reduced to small minorities of whackos fighting each other on the internet for their communist revolution or 4th Reich, while the masses form their own group of pissed off working class people.
Bill was ill informed to the point of stupidity on the protests in Canada.
He should be embarrassed, do a tiny bit of research, and apologize.
@@jimmcdonald678 he got himself out of it pretty easily but playing dumb abs admitted he wasn't following it.
This is one of my all time favorite episodes of Real Time. Thank you!
I love how Bill is a total boss regardless of how much he has been in this and how much everything around him changes, he still calls the bullshit from anywhere it comes.
All three of these people are the elite!
Bill brings up a very valid point…the spending is ridiculous and unfocused.
What to me, as an European, is one of the strangest aspects of the American discussion about the health care system is how little reference is made to the health care systems of other countries. Here in Europe, we have a wide range of different health care systems, almost all of which work better than the U.S. system. There is something for everyone, from completely government-run to those that are based on private insurance at their core. In the U.S., problems are constantly being discussed for which other countries have long since shown the workable solution.
but misinformed people like on this show don't look at that .. too bad
Sweden isn't doing too good with middle eastern refug keep coming like every week lmao
Between the FUD mathmatics (like what Bill read about %80 taxes), to comparisons of populations and, my favourite, that "that country has a more homogenous population" (which is basically saying if we didn't have all these ____ people here), most people don't have any idea how any other system works. Most people don't know how it worked in the US 25 years ago or that the system was massively changed as recently as Nixon.
The constant cheer of "we're #1" is somehow more important than people getting healthcare in this country :(. Sadly, I think we'd rather keep claiming we are the best than actually (even remotely) *being* the best.
There are subtle shifts. I live in Maryland where the state has normalized hospital pricing and hospitals are rewarded for outcomes. It's a critical step towards single-payer insurance and it does take some time (10-15 years in Maryland). That has led to more efficiency in the system (skipping out on some "filler" procedures) and lower costs for important/effective treatments. It also means when the hospital can't do anything more for you, they get you out *that day*. They get you out to a nursing care facility or send you home, but that's part of the increased efficiency (just seems harsh).
I think most people just know high insurance rates, super-high deductibles, and commercials on TV that say that if Medicare gets to negotiate drug prices, no more new drugs will be developed (aka Wall Street will take it's ball and go home and we'll be like.. *before* big pharma :/ ). There's a lot of crap commercials making people terrified that our horrible situation could actually become worse.
@@Saiputera that is not a thing
@@Saiputera this is about health care don't change the subject ..
They should had listened to her instead of shutting her down with outrage.
Well said sir
This was a great show! I wish there could be more interaction like this with guests…
Marianne is a great guest.
Hard to believe she is 69
@@andiman45 Holy shit, I had no idea who she was and would've pegged her at like 45, 50 tops. Good on her.
@spider liberty successful, accomplished author, and you?....whats your name again? LOL
@spider liberty good that you made that comparison with AH and DJT in the same breath. They deserve each other
Probably one of the best episodes in a very long time.
This is how friends discussed issues in the 70s 80s and 90s. Today I cannot even have a dinner party without half the group deciding they hate me. What happened to people?
Marianne is spot on.
She’s the real queen 🇺🇸👏🏻
Another big pharma greed! She only care about her insurance lmao
Marianne schooled these clowns.
Amazing Episode, great debate.