Finally! I worked on these like 8 months ago and I'm happy to see they're finally released and can talk about them. This is a great overview I can point to when people ask me what the differences are, great video. The 4-pin on the back can also be used to output CRSF or SBUS to a flight controller and still have the PWM outputs as well.
I'm not sure you are right, checked the website, not a single mention and no pins to solder on the PCB pictures that show front and back without the sticker. Was already wondering they are not usefull for quads.
@@Photonees You mean the CRSF output port? It definitely puts out the channel data out that port. Source: I wrote it. No soldering to the receiver necessary, just use the supplied cable and hook it to a flight controller like a regular receiver. The PWM outputs can be remapped to any input channel too so you can like do a pan/tilt camera setup and stull run the quad like normal.
@@CapnBry interesting. But why is there no mention of it on the website? Wanted to DL the manual, but not available yet... So you mean the pins sticking out. The i onderstand I guess. I thought you meant extra "pins" to solder on on the receiver 😅
Great video John. Well done RadioMaster and all that worked on creating these Gems. Love this feature that CapnBry shared, " output CRSF or SBUS to a flight controller and still have the PWM outputs as well." VERY VERY cool
Yes, you can output serial and PWM simultaneously on ELRS. I haven't done it on new RM stuff yet, but for PWM: Set Pin 2 to Serial, pick SBUS (3.3+) or CRSF, and PWM pins retain output. No configuration necessary for those.
I tried changing the output pins in the ER8 and ER8GV, but they don't support setting their output pins to Serial. It appears you can only use the CRSF port for serial output (which is fine by me) @@RCVideoReviews
Great video John, good to see these receivers are finally public! I think RM are on to a winner with the ER series. :) btw, the UART on the ER8G and ER8GV is on the side - at 9:59 it was right next to your thumb ;) It'll be interesting to see what happens with that in the future... The presentation and build quality of these look great... I like the attention to small detail like the rubber strain relief for the antenna on the ER6 and ER8.
Ah, I see it. It's covered by heat shrink. So that has to be cut open. I think there will be a lot of people who appreciate having mainstream ELRS receivers: Cases, pins soldered on, strain relief antenna, 35v vbat, +6 pins. Definitely believe RM is on the right track and has fielded a winner with this lineup. I am nearly 100% ELRS on fixed wing.
Indeed! I have not bought DMSX original reveivers because of the lack of that feature... Hated the 'time' thing.. Love the Low Flightpack voltage alarm. Once you try it, you will not want to go back. I don't employ RX's without it anymore just as you do.! Big thumbs up for Radiomaster!
Yeah, having flight pack voltage is so useful. FYI: If you like using voltage instead of timers, check this out: ua-cam.com/video/Q5s7zB0NDCQ/v-deo.html
Just ordered a DLG... and they hit me with these? Vario built in??? It's christmas in july!!! As an old-school heli guy since the early 2000's, once you go EdgeTx and ELRS, you'll never look back.
ER4 is a cute little unit, perfect size ! ER6GV is a damn fine everyday unit for me (with a few gliders in the hangar). May have to make the move to ELRS
Very good news, almost perfect line, just still missing versions with gyro...But for sure, it'll already make happy a lot of us! By when a sensors line: A, GPS, Pitot speedo...?
FWIW I've been asking them for an integrated gyro. I'm sure they'll want to develop their sensor lineup too now that they have an RX that can use them.
Does anyone know what sort of range you might expect with a Boxer+ELRS Ranger module using a EGRV8? I’m worried about losing connection to a 3m+ sailplane LOS..
Any concern about ELRS losing connectivity for LOS is misplaced outside of a hardware or configuration fault. The tech is quite well proven at this point.
Nope. Not even close. It was a typo. They already acknowledged it. The 1/2g difference--don't really care one way or the other as it could come down to calibration between scales.
Very good video and very good news ! I'm excited also with this UART telemetry sensor port ! I think I will change all my FrSky receivers, BYE BYE FrSky !
They all use the same RF tech, but since you're asking about a land vehicle you don't need any of the RXs with varios. So it really comes down to size and PWM requirements for your setup.
Halfway through and trying to understand the ELRS systems and you’ve mentioned Verio and that it’s going to be in a crash proof system a dozen times, but not what the Vario is
Bonjour je me suis pris le ER6 RADIOMASTER expresset RS2.4 COMMENT METTRE LE PROGRAMME SUR MA RADIO METTRE EN INTER RF TYPE CRSF BRAUDRATE 921K SAMPLE NORMAL MERCI
Please forgive a noob question, but if a quad requires four channels just for the sticks(?) does that mean a four channel receiver wouldn’t work if I also need a channel for arming, flight mode, beeper, flip after crash, etc?
Usually quads are managed by Flight Controllers and almost universally need more than 4 channels, so we usually feed them via a serial protocol like CRSF or SBUS (mostly CRSF). Serial protocols can feed 16+ channels over one wire to the FC and the FC can then distribute commands over it's outputs as necessary.
I wish they do not sell em in a fancy carton boxes that goes strait into trash, but make em couple $ less. For $14.99 you can buy matek 6ch rx with same vbat feature + 2 additional channels. Same weight tho. But it's good thing that we have another one vendor on a market.
I have a bunch of the Matek/HM RX's, you also have to solder all of those and one little mistake (which people have admitted to making in the comments on retail sites) and your $14.99 is wasted. Also, some of the older hobbyists don't have the same eyes/hands younger hobbyists have, so solutions that come ready to go out of the box are a value add for them. And yes, always good to have another vendor in the mix. Good for everybody.
What range would you trust the ER4 to? I'm going to be using them in SBUS mode with A3S4's in my 750-1000mm racers. They are small so I won't be flying them at any great distances.🤪 Would you trust them in larger planes as well? I'd like to use one in my Excalibur V2 warm liner since there's not a lot of space in the electronics bay.
I would trust ELRS ER4 for control farther than just about any other system available to fly at range (i.e. video). It will EASILY outfly your eyeballs without even breaking a sweat. www.expresslrs.org/info/long-range/
@@RCVideoReviews 😯 Had not seen that page before! I knew it was a solid link, but was overthinking the single vs dual antenna aspect and whether it might affect range. Thank you for responding. 🍻
Thanks for the video. I’m wondering if these will be limited to four proportional channels, with other channels having less resolution? Is that a feature of ELRS and not just the PWM receivers? Do the CRSF receivers also only get 4 proportional channels? Also, the UART port for the longer receivers is visible on one of the longer sides just under the shrink wrap.
Newbie, bamboozled !. I have bought an ER4 and RM Pocket. Two channel for a yacht, rudder servo chnl 1, rotary winch chnl 3. Lipo 7.4 volt battery that I want to connect to the RX to drive the servos. How do I do that with one wire from the EX V pad ?? Or do I plug the battery using a servo connection into chnl 2 or 4, which will then power the two chnls I want to use …which I’ve tried, but all I get is the red LED blinking at me … does not want to bind. Look fwd to your help
Good enough to give this a try. Definitely going to miss per cell voltage.... Hopefully that comes along soon for EDF, helis, etc. RM seriously needs to consider a NA warehouse and support staff to take it to the next level. ~$5-11 per item to ship from CN starts to erode at the value prop.
They do have a robust retail channel and I'm told the US retailers that ordered them are free to post them at will. I used to worry about per cell voltage, but I keep only good condition batteries in flight and TBH, with good condition batteries, it's never been an issue. And I log/review my data too, so I'm not whistling dixie here.
Hi John, I just bought 2xER8 receivers for my planes and when I turn on them on with radio on as well, one flying surface (never the same) move to maximum deflection then go to centre after the receiver fully connects to radio. My radio is TX16S with Ranger ELRS module. Could you advice me on what to do? Thanks.
I’m looking getting the tx16s and I’m debating getting the elrs version or the 4 in 1, is there a elrs usb dongle that works with simulators like Realflight, or would I have to get the 4 in 1 and use the Spektrum usb dongle? I really like the elrs receivers but want to be able to use the simulator.
ELRS has a bluetooth joystick option that works with Windows 11. No extra hardware required, but you do have to launch the ELRS LUA and start the joystick.
@@RCVideoReviews Thanks John, tossing my Jumper T16 and going with a Boxer + Express LRS in an old school Simplecopter mini-T. Was going with the Matek R24-P6 when this video dropped.😀
Is there any that is suitable for RC cars? I want to build a FPV Rc car but my Dumborc tx only has 400m(claim) range. Its has a 3.5mm port used for simulator or PPM interface as it claims, is it possible to connect a Elrs module to it? I only need 2 channels or perhaps 3 for camera tilt :) And pistol grip tx is a must for me.
@@RCVideoReviews sorry, the Sbus feature, but I just figured it out it’s there and works great, just starting out with ExpressLRS so this stuff is all new to me. thanks
I’m losing my mind, I just realized this was the wrong video I commented on. I meant to comment on your express LRS with S bus to ppm conversion. Sorry, my bad, but great video anyway.
Excellent work for RadioMaster. =^/,..,^= Now I know what ExpressLRS receivers to put in my helicopters. My T-Rex 500 ESP 3G would benefit greatly from the RadioMaster ER6. I can yeet his 14 year old Spektrum AR8000 receiver without needing to replace the flight controller (which is a BeastX Micro Beast Plus, by the way).
I just got these in the mail about a month ago. In the video you demonstrated how to get RxBt through the vbat wire, but is it possible to to get RxBt through a BEC?
Radiomaster produces the hardware. The ELRS team produces the software. SBUS is available in 3.3.0-RC-1. As of the release of these receivers, 3.3.0-RC-1 wasn't available. So they will support SBUS if you upgrade the firmware. Keep in mind as of today, 3.3 is in Release Candidate stage. It should be final soon.
I can't answer questions about Spektrum because I don't use their gear. If you're a newbie and haven't made a big investment in tx/rx's yet, you may want to consider taking a look at the TX16s with EdgeTX. Much more powerful and economical.
if you have an ExpressLRS transmitter and receiver you have many miles of range, but how do you get many miles of video transmission. Or is the video transmission through the ExpressLRS system? thank you for your nice work, have a good day
Hi Rc Video Review. The Er4 is it suitable for nitro planes? Let say all I need 4 ch. What size Er4 can be used on. Let say it's 4ch gaser? Any limitation for Los? Ty
Had my 6GV in a F3K model for a week now but haven’t managed to get the vario working. No vspd in telemetry. All other telemetry is working. Any ideas?
On discover sensors if it doesn't show up, and you have current firmware on it and the radio, the only thing I would do is reflash the RX with ELRS and do an erase before flash. If that doesn't produce vspd in the sensor list, I could contact Radiomaster for additional support.
@@RCVideoReviews Thanks. I upgraded to 3.3.0 on both TX and RX but still no vspd. The Alt also continually counts down. I will contact Radiomaster and see if they have any suggestions. Cheers.
@@malinhiles I'm using OpenTX on a Jumper t-lite v2. ELRS via the external TX Module AION NANO upgraded to 3.3.0 ELRS firmware. In other DLG's I've been using MATEK ELRS-R24-V R24V and the varios work fine.
I hope they will release a Lipo Cells voltage sensor to connect to the UART port. To have in the telemetry the voltage of each cells and to have the possibility to set the low battery voltage alarm on the lowest cells voltage instead of the total lipo battery pack voltage. I know you can do it Radiomaster ;-) And also receivers with gyro please !
I've asked for integrated gyros too. I've been flying with vbat for some time with every kind of plane. As long as your batteries are healthy--no big discrepancies in cell to cell IR, overvall vbat is quite effective and accurate. Cell voltage is nice, but vbat is effective in a practical sense. I literally have it on almost everything I own--including 85" Extreme Flight 3D planes and my 90mm F-22 Ultra. The planes that don't have it yet will be getting it.
I've never tested so I can't say. I know on the ELRS leaderboard, they're flying 2.4ghz 31Km at 50hz and 50mw. 50mw is the bottom end of the radiated power level which some TXs can drive up to 2w. So....
www.radiomasterrc.com/collections/ranger/products/ranger-2-4ghz-elrs-module?sca_ref=1523724.rIJKzhlll7 or here www.radiomasterrc.com/collections/ranger/products/ranger-micro-2-4ghz-elrs-module?sca_ref=1523724.rIJKzhlll7
I just got my er6-GV setup today fully expecting to find a "VSpd" sensor on the telemetry screen, but there is not. There is only an altitude readout, no vertical speed readout.
The built in VBAT Telemetry kinda piqued my interest over CrossFire which I'm currently using, and which doesn't have that functionality by itself ( I'm using various Matek Adapter Boards for that ). *_BUT_* that CH5 Arming situation could require some explanation... I only drive RC Tanks ( ua-cam.com/video/l3_RcOU3zo0/v-deo.html / ua-cam.com/video/VNP6Dstz6wc/v-deo.html ) three of which require at least eight Channels to operate to access all functions with two of them requiring PWM Outputs - So all eight PWM Connectors. Now... As you may guess Arming isn't exactly a thing for RC Tanks ( at least I'm not aware of it being a thing for models of the size I'm frequenting ) so having it block even just one of the eight required PWM Pins is kinda an instant NoGo for me which brings me to the question if Arming can be mapped to a Non existing/physical "virtual" ninth Pin thus freeing up all eight PWM Connections?
Please pass this on to Radiomaster, They're too expensive. The 8ch receivers are 34.99, vario version is $40. I can make my own 10 or 16ch pwm with vbat (and possibly even current) sense from HM or Matek elrs receivers for around $20-25. If these 8ch receivers (at least the one without vario) were priced a little more competitively at around $20-25, I'd be likely to buy some. At this price I will not buy any, I doubt a lot of others will either. Any receiver over $30 is just too expensive. That is why I stopped buying and using FrSky 8ch sbus receivers. At first when they came out, they were in the mid $20 price range, but slowly they snuck up the price, and I stopped buying them. So please let Radiomaster know they priced these out of reach. I like their products, but the whole point was that everything they make is open-source and I bought their products because they were inexpensive and fairly priced in the past. These are not priced fairly, in my opinion, and are not competitive. Thank you for the review, it is great and informative like always!!
@@slammerf16 Oh I have FlySky PL18 now hehe. I'm satisfied with AFHDS3 recievers but if I want something that crazy cheap I need to downgrade to AFHDS2. But other ELRS modules are so cheap I might just grab one of those now. I bought my Futaba T7C used from an acquaintance years ago and it turned out to be one of the early variants that cant bind to additional recievers. When I realized I was years outside of the "service" that Futaba offered to fix them.
Not only that, I've been watching ELRS telemetry very closely for a few weeks, and the RF link latches on like a pit bull with lock jaw. Even single antenna designs produce ridiculously good RF outcomes. I'm talking RQLY at 333hz of 95%+ and 25mw of dynamic power. Let that sink in and you should be saying, "Holy s$!T!" That means 316 understood packets *per second* at a measly 25mw of transmit power with headroom to 1000mw. It's just insane.
These have nothing to do with the R168. Completely different tech and hardware. I'm told they've received some extensive testing during development by people outside of RM.
I just got my ER6 and after binding with a bind phrase through wifi the led is solid purple not blue. What does the led color means? It’s not published in the manual.
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Finally! I worked on these like 8 months ago and I'm happy to see they're finally released and can talk about them. This is a great overview I can point to when people ask me what the differences are, great video. The 4-pin on the back can also be used to output CRSF or SBUS to a flight controller and still have the PWM outputs as well.
I'm not sure you are right, checked the website, not a single mention and no pins to solder on the PCB pictures that show front and back without the sticker. Was already wondering they are not usefull for quads.
@@Photonees You mean the CRSF output port? It definitely puts out the channel data out that port. Source: I wrote it. No soldering to the receiver necessary, just use the supplied cable and hook it to a flight controller like a regular receiver. The PWM outputs can be remapped to any input channel too so you can like do a pan/tilt camera setup and stull run the quad like normal.
Comment of the month. "Source..." :)
@@CapnBry interesting. But why is there no mention of it on the website? Wanted to DL the manual, but not available yet... So you mean the pins sticking out. The i onderstand I guess. I thought you meant extra "pins" to solder on on the receiver 😅
He did write the software. He should know what does and what does not work. Don't trust a manual when you can ask a developer.
this is an answer I've been looking forward to from RadioMaster as I fly F3k gliders. The ER6GV has everything I need in a trusted brand...bravo!!
I'm sure RM gained a lot of friends today.
Great video John. Well done RadioMaster and all that worked on creating these Gems. Love this feature that CapnBry shared, " output CRSF or SBUS to a flight controller and still have the PWM outputs as well." VERY VERY cool
Yes, definitely cool.
Hspeed, CRSF or SBUS output ?? CapnBry ??
Sounds interesting. Please advise how.
Yes, you can output serial and PWM simultaneously on ELRS. I haven't done it on new RM stuff yet, but for PWM: Set Pin 2 to Serial, pick SBUS (3.3+) or CRSF, and PWM pins retain output. No configuration necessary for those.
I tried changing the output pins in the ER8 and ER8GV, but they don't support setting their output pins to Serial. It appears you can only use the CRSF port for serial output (which is fine by me) @@RCVideoReviews
Great video John, good to see these receivers are finally public! I think RM are on to a winner with the ER series. :) btw, the UART on the ER8G and ER8GV is on the side - at 9:59 it was right next to your thumb ;) It'll be interesting to see what happens with that in the future... The presentation and build quality of these look great... I like the attention to small detail like the rubber strain relief for the antenna on the ER6 and ER8.
Ah, I see it. It's covered by heat shrink. So that has to be cut open. I think there will be a lot of people who appreciate having mainstream ELRS receivers: Cases, pins soldered on, strain relief antenna, 35v vbat, +6 pins. Definitely believe RM is on the right track and has fielded a winner with this lineup.
I am nearly 100% ELRS on fixed wing.
Indeed! I have not bought DMSX original reveivers because of the lack of that feature... Hated the 'time' thing.. Love the Low Flightpack voltage alarm. Once you try it, you will not want to go back. I don't employ RX's without it anymore just as you do.! Big thumbs up for Radiomaster!
Yeah, having flight pack voltage is so useful. FYI: If you like using voltage instead of timers, check this out: ua-cam.com/video/Q5s7zB0NDCQ/v-deo.html
Every plane that has voltage, has that setup. And I only have a few more planes to convert to ELRS + Voltage.
Perfect lineup !
With all the good ELRS stuff you display on your channel, now I have to consider seriously getting an Elrs module.
I'm almost all ELRS now. It's been an effort, but I'm just about there.
Thanks for your service and great RADIOMASTER
Any time!
Fantastic job Radiomaster. Mic drop. Grand slam. Just what we have been waiting for. Can't wait to get mine. Great job on the review John.
Thank you kindly!
Just ordered a DLG... and they hit me with these? Vario built in??? It's christmas in july!!!
As an old-school heli guy since the early 2000's, once you go EdgeTx and ELRS, you'll never look back.
Amen!
With Mad Tech review and your got all well the information 👌 I needed 👏. Thank u 🙏.
My pleasure.
Radiomaster please make elrs pistol grip controller for rc trucks
ER4 is a cute little unit, perfect size ! ER6GV is a damn fine everyday unit for me (with a few gliders in the hangar). May have to make the move to ELRS
I'm almost all in myself. Only a few left with other brands which I can't even give away right now.
dang just as FlySky released something cool, Radiomaster comes and steals the show.
Very good news, almost perfect line, just still missing versions with gyro...But for sure, it'll already make happy a lot of us! By when a sensors line: A, GPS, Pitot speedo...?
FWIW I've been asking them for an integrated gyro. I'm sure they'll want to develop their sensor lineup too now that they have an RX that can use them.
Bonjour et merci beaucoup j'ai bien trouvé le programme je vous remercie pour votre vidéo et merci
Vous êtes les bienvenus. Je suis content que ma vidéo ait aidé.
Gosh! More money to spend. This is great from Radiomaster. Looking forward to start converting to ELRS. Good job John.
SPEND IT ALL! :)
Thanks Bill, have fun my friend.
Fantastic, I'm looking forward to switching out my Matek vario receivers for these.
So many good solutions from RM in this release. Have fun.
Alright, *now* I can get that Radiomaster transmitter!
Does anyone know what sort of range you might expect with a Boxer+ELRS Ranger module using a EGRV8? I’m worried about losing connection to a 3m+ sailplane LOS..
Take a look at this: www.expresslrs.org/info/long-range/
Any concern about ELRS losing connectivity for LOS is misplaced outside of a hardware or configuration fault. The tech is quite well proven at this point.
@@RCVideoReviews Thanks for the help, glad I found your channel going forward :)
i have a radio jumper t12pro with opentx.....do i need to buy another radio in order to use this er4 with voltage telemetry? thanks
There we go!
Yessir!
It's not a typo in the weights.
It's because the weight RM have stated is with ALL the wires attached !!!
Nope. Not even close. It was a typo. They already acknowledged it. The 1/2g difference--don't really care one way or the other as it could come down to calibration between scales.
Very good video and very good news ! I'm excited also with this UART telemetry sensor port ! I think I will change all my FrSky receivers, BYE BYE FrSky !
Why on earth does the 6 channel simply not have the 6th pins already soldered in?!? Glad these came out though!
Hi John, great stuff as always. Which one of these will work the best with my rc truck using my RM boxer radio?
They all use the same RF tech, but since you're asking about a land vehicle you don't need any of the RXs with varios. So it really comes down to size and PWM requirements for your setup.
@@RCVideoReviews Thank you.
Halfway through and trying to understand the ELRS systems and you’ve mentioned Verio and that it’s going to be in a crash proof system a dozen times, but not what the Vario is
could you show using a er6 and sbus? kind regards
Bonjour je me suis pris le ER6 RADIOMASTER expresset RS2.4 COMMENT METTRE LE PROGRAMME SUR MA RADIO METTRE EN INTER RF TYPE CRSF BRAUDRATE 921K SAMPLE NORMAL MERCI
добрий день, будь ласка поможіть, в мене пульт ТХ-12 і я купив собі ER8G, але не можу плняти як його прив'язати, будь ласка поможіть
Great video, now I'll need to try them 😀
Thank you.
ELRS is finally starting to look like a valid way to go for fixed wing.
Definitely going mainstream.
Great video thank you for all you do . 😊
Thanks for watching and for the kind comment.
Please forgive a noob question, but if a quad requires four channels just for the sticks(?) does that mean a four channel receiver wouldn’t work if I also need a channel for arming, flight mode, beeper, flip after crash, etc?
Usually quads are managed by Flight Controllers and almost universally need more than 4 channels, so we usually feed them via a serial protocol like CRSF or SBUS (mostly CRSF). Serial protocols can feed 16+ channels over one wire to the FC and the FC can then distribute commands over it's outputs as necessary.
@@RCVideoReviews thank you!
I need to clalbration for battery persentage. Mine is way off how do we dot it?
But how do you power the ER4?
I wish they do not sell em in a fancy carton boxes that goes strait into trash, but make em couple $ less. For $14.99 you can buy matek 6ch rx with same vbat feature + 2 additional channels. Same weight tho. But it's good thing that we have another one vendor on a market.
I have a bunch of the Matek/HM RX's, you also have to solder all of those and one little mistake (which people have admitted to making in the comments on retail sites) and your $14.99 is wasted. Also, some of the older hobbyists don't have the same eyes/hands younger hobbyists have, so solutions that come ready to go out of the box are a value add for them.
And yes, always good to have another vendor in the mix. Good for everybody.
What range would you trust the ER4 to? I'm going to be using them in SBUS mode with A3S4's in my 750-1000mm racers. They are small so I won't be flying them at any great distances.🤪 Would you trust them in larger planes as well? I'd like to use one in my Excalibur V2 warm liner since there's not a lot of space in the electronics bay.
I would trust ELRS ER4 for control farther than just about any other system available to fly at range (i.e. video). It will EASILY outfly your eyeballs without even breaking a sweat. www.expresslrs.org/info/long-range/
@@RCVideoReviews 😯 Had not seen that page before! I knew it was a solid link, but was overthinking the single vs dual antenna aspect and whether it might affect range. Thank you for responding. 🍻
Can i bind a radiomaster elrs
transmitter to a plane that has a spektrum receiver or do I have to swap out the receiver?
You need an elrs receiver. They’re not compatible.
Does the ER6GV receiver work with 2.4 normally? I have the Master radio without an external module... I would like to know if it works right away?
All of these receivers are 2.ghz ELRS (LORA). If your radio uses a 4in1, that does not work with ELRS (LORA). You need an ELRS transmitter.
thanks, but missing the main parameter - the relative range
Relative to what? Search for elrs leaderboard. Range is not a factor with elrs.
Thanks for the video. I’m wondering if these will be limited to four proportional channels, with other channels having less resolution? Is that a feature of ELRS and not just the PWM receivers? Do the CRSF receivers also only get 4 proportional channels? Also, the UART port for the longer receivers is visible on one of the longer sides just under the shrink wrap.
ELRS 3.0 provides 16 proportional channels.
I saw the UART port after the video. One of the EdgeTX devs pointed it out. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for the clarification
Newbie, bamboozled !. I have bought an ER4 and RM Pocket. Two channel for a yacht, rudder servo chnl 1, rotary winch chnl 3. Lipo 7.4 volt battery that I want to connect to the RX to drive the servos. How do I do that with one wire from the EX V pad ??
Or do I plug the battery using a servo connection into chnl 2 or 4, which will then power the two chnls I want to use …which I’ve tried, but all I get is the red LED blinking at me … does not want to bind. Look fwd to your help
Help awaits on discord. YT is a terrible platform to cover this type of discussion. Link to my discord is in the description of every video I post.
@@RCVideoReviews discord ? I don’t understand.
Good enough to give this a try. Definitely going to miss per cell voltage.... Hopefully that comes along soon for EDF, helis, etc.
RM seriously needs to consider a NA warehouse and support staff to take it to the next level. ~$5-11 per item to ship from CN starts to erode at the value prop.
They do have a robust retail channel and I'm told the US retailers that ordered them are free to post them at will.
I used to worry about per cell voltage, but I keep only good condition batteries in flight and TBH, with good condition batteries, it's never been an issue. And I log/review my data too, so I'm not whistling dixie here.
Hi John, I just bought 2xER8 receivers for my planes and when I turn on them on with radio on as well, one flying surface (never the same) move to maximum deflection then go to centre after the receiver fully connects to radio. My radio is TX16S with Ranger ELRS module. Could you advice me on what to do? Thanks.
I haven't ever encountered that issue. You probably need to hop on the ELRS discord and ask them directly.
I’m looking getting the tx16s and I’m debating getting the elrs version or the 4 in 1, is there a elrs usb dongle that works with simulators like Realflight, or would I have to get the 4 in 1 and use the Spektrum usb dongle? I really like the elrs receivers but want to be able to use the simulator.
ELRS has a bluetooth joystick option that works with Windows 11. No extra hardware required, but you do have to launch the ELRS LUA and start the joystick.
Great stuff. now setup gyros with the new rx
Wait for it...
Wonder if the ER6 can be de-cased. The case is too thick for my situation but the bare receiver should be OK.
Of course it can. If it can be put in a case, it can be taken out of one. If you don't want the case, you may want to check out EPW6.
@@RCVideoReviews Thanks John, tossing my Jumper T16 and going with a Boxer + Express LRS in an old school Simplecopter mini-T. Was going with the Matek R24-P6 when this video dropped.😀
Is there any that is suitable for RC cars? I want to build a FPV Rc car but my Dumborc tx only has 400m(claim) range. Its has a 3.5mm port used for simulator or PPM interface as it claims, is it possible to connect a Elrs module to it? I only need 2 channels or perhaps 3 for camera tilt :)
And pistol grip tx is a must for me.
ER5C was intended for surface operations, but honestly, any of them will work.
Might finally have to convert my entire fleet to ELRS!
I'm just now wrapping up that process. Not looking back.
Great video, thanks. Do you know if they implement this feature by the latest firmware 3.3.1?
Which feature?
@@RCVideoReviews sorry, the Sbus feature, but I just figured it out it’s there and works great, just starting out with ExpressLRS so this stuff is all new to me. thanks
I’m losing my mind, I just realized this was the wrong video I commented on. I meant to comment on your express LRS with S bus to ppm conversion. Sorry, my bad, but great video anyway.
Excellent work for RadioMaster. =^/,..,^=
Now I know what ExpressLRS receivers to put in my helicopters.
My T-Rex 500 ESP 3G would benefit greatly from the RadioMaster ER6. I can yeet his 14 year old Spektrum AR8000 receiver without needing to replace the flight controller (which is a BeastX Micro Beast Plus, by the way).
I agree--this is a great infusion of energy into the ELRS product space. Just awesome.
@@RCVideoReviews I love the fact that they are _very_ affordable too.
Agreed. Very reasonable.
I just got these in the mail about a month ago. In the video you demonstrated how to get RxBt through the vbat wire, but is it possible to to get RxBt through a BEC?
Sure--it'll be 5v all the time though.
@@RCVideoReviews yea thats what I'm dreading, I think I have to solder this into the main battery leads.
I usually put a single pin (breadboard jumper wire) between vbat pads on the RX and the positive lead on the balance plug.
question: how do you couple two receivers for a dual setup ?
For what? The link is extremely reliable.
@@malte9999 there is nothing extremely reliable. of course if I were to use them on cheap foam planes for LOS this is not an issue
Hello need a bit of help i am using a pixhawk do you know if radiomaster make a expresslrs receiver with sbus?
Radiomaster produces the hardware. The ELRS team produces the software. SBUS is available in 3.3.0-RC-1. As of the release of these receivers, 3.3.0-RC-1 wasn't available. So they will support SBUS if you upgrade the firmware. Keep in mind as of today, 3.3 is in Release Candidate stage. It should be final soon.
@@RCVideoReviews many thanks the problem i have is finding a radiomaster expresslrs receiver with sbus
Flash 3.3.0rc-1, then you'll have sbus.
Will this bind with a Spektrum 6I or do I have to buy a radio master? I'm a newbie and Spektrum seems to be stupid high stuff.
I can't answer questions about Spektrum because I don't use their gear. If you're a newbie and haven't made a big investment in tx/rx's yet, you may want to consider taking a look at the TX16s with EdgeTX. Much more powerful and economical.
I was able to bind to an stock AR-631, a jailbroke AR-631 and a Jailbroke AR-637T.
auto launch? gyro?
Im new to radiomaster (only ever used old futaba and spektrum), can these be bound to the TX12 Mk2? Thanks
If the TX12 MK2 is the ELRS version. They will not bind with a cc2500 version.
if you have an ExpressLRS transmitter and receiver you have many miles of range, but how do you get many miles of video transmission. Or is the video transmission through the ExpressLRS system?
thank you for your nice work, have a good day
You are about to take a red pill....
Antenna trackers, directional antennas, 1.3ghz usually are good combos for video range.
A small question , for a trainer 5 channel , should i get a ER6 or ER6GV?
Gv if you want altimeter and vario. Otherwise ER6 is fine.
Thank you so much and God bless you
Hi Rc Video Review. The Er4 is it suitable for nitro planes? Let say all I need 4 ch. What size Er4 can be used on. Let say it's 4ch gaser? Any limitation for Los? Ty
I don't see why not. Zero limits for LOS. Almost every plane I have right now runs ELRS--LOS or otherwise.
@RCVideoReviews ok I'm worried because has one antenna. Ty
I'm not.
Hi John. I have quick question. Does vario send me feed back how high I am?
There are actually two sensors: Altimeter and Variometer. Altimeter is height, vario is rate of change +/-.
@@RCVideoReviews ty so much
Had my 6GV in a F3K model for a week now but haven’t managed to get the vario working. No vspd in telemetry. All other telemetry is working. Any ideas?
On discover sensors if it doesn't show up, and you have current firmware on it and the radio, the only thing I would do is reflash the RX with ELRS and do an erase before flash. If that doesn't produce vspd in the sensor list, I could contact Radiomaster for additional support.
@@RCVideoReviews Thanks. I upgraded to 3.3.0 on both TX and RX but still no vspd. The Alt also continually counts down. I will contact Radiomaster and see if they have any suggestions. Cheers.
@@warrencheetham9672 In the same boat here. Everything is up to date, but i'm not seeing any Vspd...
Just heard back from Radiomaster. Turns out it's an EdgeTX thing. Need to be on v2.8.4 or later to get the VSpd sensor to show up.
@@malinhiles I'm using OpenTX on a Jumper t-lite v2. ELRS via the external TX Module AION NANO upgraded to 3.3.0 ELRS firmware. In other DLG's I've been using MATEK ELRS-R24-V R24V and the varios work fine.
can these be used for helicopters with flight controllers ?
using provided SBUS cable ?
Yes, s.bus is s.bus. Be aware, s.bus is unidirectional though, so you won't get telemetry beyond what the Rx provides.
@@RCVideoReviews so...
only ER6, ER8, ER8G and ER8GV have SBUS out function?
only they come with SBUS cable.
SBUS is a firmware option. RX independent. If there is no UART it's provided by PIN2 for PWM or TX for serial only RXs.
@@RCVideoReviews if I want to have SBUS, vario (altitude ?) telemetry, and lipo voltage telemetry,
is ER8GV pretty much the only option ?
@davidjacobs8558 I don’t know if it’s the only option but it’s a good one.
I hope they will release a Lipo Cells voltage sensor to connect to the UART port. To have in the telemetry the voltage of each cells and to have the possibility to set the low battery voltage alarm on the lowest cells voltage instead of the total lipo battery pack voltage. I know you can do it Radiomaster ;-) And also receivers with gyro please !
I've asked for integrated gyros too. I've been flying with vbat for some time with every kind of plane. As long as your batteries are healthy--no big discrepancies in cell to cell IR, overvall vbat is quite effective and accurate. Cell voltage is nice, but vbat is effective in a practical sense. I literally have it on almost everything I own--including 85" Extreme Flight 3D planes and my 90mm F-22 Ultra. The planes that don't have it yet will be getting it.
@@RCVideoReviews Yes you are right. Vbat is better than nothing. I use it on all my models.
Any idea when they will be out of pre order?
Some people on discord have reported shipment notifications.
they didnt have a typo for the weight, you forgot to add the pins to it and all the other extra stuff
The one with the typo was a 5g difference. Radiomaster already acknowledged the mistake. Had nothing to do with the pins/wires.
Game changer!
Agreed.
Do they support sbus? Say you wanted to run a small one with a hobby eagle gyro.
Yup. When 3.3 final is released it will have SBUS as a serial output option.
Oh all that seemed very interesting.
Suport For RC Plane Gasoline?
Are all these Rx waterproof ?
No mention of it in the specs.
Max range for the ER4?????
I've never tested so I can't say. I know on the ELRS leaderboard, they're flying 2.4ghz 31Km at 50hz and 50mw. 50mw is the bottom end of the radiated power level which some TXs can drive up to 2w. So....
Can i get elrs on my 4in1 tx16?
www.radiomasterrc.com/collections/ranger/products/ranger-2-4ghz-elrs-module?sca_ref=1523724.rIJKzhlll7 or here www.radiomasterrc.com/collections/ranger/products/ranger-micro-2-4ghz-elrs-module?sca_ref=1523724.rIJKzhlll7
I just got my er6-GV setup today fully expecting to find a "VSpd" sensor on the telemetry screen, but there is not. There is only an altitude readout, no vertical speed readout.
Not correct. It has vspd. I'm looking at it on mine right now.
@@RCVideoReviews Ahh, good to know. Saw some other folks with this issue, glad its not the case everywhere. I'll change my comment
@@RCVideoReviews Just heard back from radiomaster. Turns out it's an EdgeTX thing. Need to be on v2.8.4 or later.
Hmm, interesting. Did migrating to 2.8.4 work?
The built in VBAT Telemetry kinda piqued my interest over CrossFire which I'm currently using, and which doesn't have that functionality by itself ( I'm using various Matek Adapter Boards for that ).
*_BUT_* that CH5 Arming situation could require some explanation... I only drive RC Tanks ( ua-cam.com/video/l3_RcOU3zo0/v-deo.html / ua-cam.com/video/VNP6Dstz6wc/v-deo.html ) three of which require at least eight Channels to operate to access all functions with two of them requiring PWM Outputs - So all eight PWM Connectors. Now... As you may guess Arming isn't exactly a thing for RC Tanks ( at least I'm not aware of it being a thing for models of the size I'm frequenting ) so having it block even just one of the eight required PWM Pins is kinda an instant NoGo for me which brings me to the question if Arming can be mapped to a Non existing/physical "virtual" ninth Pin thus freeing up all eight PWM Connections?
Yes, you can free up all 8 pwm`s
This is what i was waiting for. RM and ELRS just killed Frsky receivers.
It would have been nice if you explained what Vario actually means since you mentioned it so many times.
Google is your friend.
@@RCVideoReviews Already tried that and got: Vario wristwatches and Vario helicopters. Is Vario short for something else? Not all of us are experts.
Sorry, I'm not here to spoon feed information. You don't have to be an expert to spend a little time researching.
awsome now if they can do this in the 900mh range is what i use
I haven't heard any rumbles about 900mhz. Just curious though--why are you on 900mhz?
Good now I can fit my 3D plane with these and get rid of my futaba stuff.
Amen.
Please pass this on to Radiomaster,
They're too expensive. The 8ch receivers are 34.99, vario version is $40. I can make my own 10 or 16ch pwm with vbat (and possibly even current) sense from HM or Matek elrs receivers for around $20-25. If these 8ch receivers (at least the one without vario) were priced a little more competitively at around $20-25, I'd be likely to buy some. At this price I will not buy any, I doubt a lot of others will either. Any receiver over $30 is just too expensive. That is why I stopped buying and using FrSky 8ch sbus receivers. At first when they came out, they were in the mid $20 price range, but slowly they snuck up the price, and I stopped buying them. So please let Radiomaster know they priced these out of reach. I like their products, but the whole point was that everything they make is open-source and I bought their products because they were inexpensive and fairly priced in the past. These are not priced fairly, in my opinion, and are not competitive.
Thank you for the review, it is great and informative like always!!
Expensive? Well, if you can make it better and cheaper. More power to you
You know shids fked up when the most expensive of these is cheaper than the cheapest Futaba.
Incredible prices makes me wish I had ELRS.
It doesn't cost much to change over - sell your Futaba while it still has value! :)
@@slammerf16 Oh I have FlySky PL18 now hehe. I'm satisfied with AFHDS3 recievers but if I want something that crazy cheap I need to downgrade to AFHDS2. But other ELRS modules are so cheap I might just grab one of those now.
I bought my Futaba T7C used from an acquaintance years ago and it turned out to be one of the early variants that cant bind to additional recievers. When I realized I was years outside of the "service" that Futaba offered to fix them.
Not only that, I've been watching ELRS telemetry very closely for a few weeks, and the RF link latches on like a pit bull with lock jaw. Even single antenna designs produce ridiculously good RF outcomes. I'm talking RQLY at 333hz of 95%+ and 25mw of dynamic power.
Let that sink in and you should be saying, "Holy s$!T!" That means 316 understood packets *per second* at a measly 25mw of transmit power with headroom to 1000mw. It's just insane.
YipEeee!
I know :)
I can't use any of them. 2.4ghz is completely useless for me.
Noise floor issues?
If only they didn't break the signal like R168.
These have nothing to do with the R168. Completely different tech and hardware. I'm told they've received some extensive testing during development by people outside of RM.
@@RCVideoReviews Thank you for your answer, I will definitely buy such a receiver.😄
I just got my ER6 and after binding with a bind phrase through wifi the led is solid purple not blue. What does the led color means? It’s not published in the manual.
I'm not sure either--not in the manual :) Good question for Radiomaster.