Bill Burr on Killers of the Flower Moon
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- Опубліковано 5 лют 2024
- Bill Burr reacts to Martin Scorsese's Oscar-nominated 2023 film Killers of the Flower Moon.
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Can I just say how I respect the literal 2 second intro, no flash, no gloating, just immediately lets the guest get on talking
Why put an intro in front of content that isn’t yours to begin with though?
well the video creator did edit the video footage together so it's not just the audio@@actualdin8458
Get the guest on talking? The guy literally uploaded someone else’s content. This isn’t a talk show.
Love Bill Burr's perspective. Love that he considers the the setting, sky, the horses, and just all the nuances that make a picture unique.
“You realize it sounds like you’re planning on murdering those children.”
“Not if I don’t get the money.”
People started laughing when he said that at the cinema I saw it in lol motherf**ker was so blatant.
@@edwardhannah8507..... what?
That was simultaneously funny and really disturbing.
He says it like killing kids is nothing.
I audibly laughed because it was a certified BRUH moment.
And then he gets arrested and I was like yeah, you done now.
That was scary and hilarious at the same time
Scorsese is a genius
He’s totally right about this flick. It was utterly engrossing.
"Youre charging me Osage prices!"
Everyone hating like how everyone hated with the Irishman. Give it time and everyone will love this one, truly one of the more depressing films by Martin and the cinematography was beautiful and felt like I was back in the countryside
It's the opposite. People give them more credit than they deserve because they're Scorsese epics, but 20 years from now no one is gonna be talking about them.
one of scorsese’s most tedious movies
Virtually nobody is hating ont his movie like they did with the Irishman. One's amazing, the other is... the Irishman. Which is just okay
@@Ryan-Petre wtf are you talking about? Oh you mean his movies like Taxi Driver that released 50 years ago? hmm you right nobody talking about those
@@JustNiceStuff-ux5nzpeople misunderstand “the Irishman”. I was confounded with it too at first but then it made sense. “Goodfellas”, “Casino” and “The Irishman” form a triptych, and have this structure of a Greek tragedy - hamartia, agnarosis, katharsis. It is the original sin, the recognition of that sin, and the downfall. Even using the youth rendering works, and De Niro geriatric movements.
Loved it, amazing cinematography and acting.
I love Bill Burr talking about movies he loves
great channel. found a lot of movies from your vids! thanks.
Best film of 2023
Burr goated for this take. KOTFM is amazing
It's SOOOOOOOOO GOOOOOOOOD!!!!! And I agree, time flew. I had seen other films up for awards and this blows them out of the water FOR ME. Not for everyone obviously.
It’s terrible, Scorsese needs to retire.
@@Grande79 you're clueless.
@@lukaz3336 no I’m not, it’s just not great at all.
@@Grande79 nah you very much are. Go watch Madame Web, have fun!
@@danielpatache8843Nope, I would never waste my time with that trash. Your assumption is that I’m a Marvel fanboy because how else could I not like a Scorsese film. Your assumption I wrong. Goodfellas, Raging Bull, Taxi Driver, Mean Streets, The Departed, range from very good to incredible. The Irishman and KOTFM are not very good.
Movie really does fly by, not slow at all, and was also intimidated by run time at first.
That was a really great review. I love the technical call-outs. Maybe I'll finally watch it.
Bill Burr has a great perspective on movie analysis. He should make a podcast dedicated to movie reviews.
This, Oppenheimer and The Killer were my favourites from last year.
Same here. All 3 of those I've watched like 3 times each. Masterpieces. So rare these days
Kotfm & Opp really didn't do it for me, pained me to get through, and I usually love movies like that. The Killer was okay, my favourite of the year was The Holdovers though. Will probably watch Oppenheimer & Flower Moon again at some point, maybe I'll see them differently on a second watch. Idk...
You didnt watch Godzilla Minus One then.
@@ElSoloNocoreally enjoyed holdovers; can you believe I happened to buy a copy of Meditations 5 minutes before the film? Was kind of surreal.
Both over rated dog shit 😊
This movie was damn good..i hope more people will check it out..my wife and i were glued to the screen those 3 hrs flew by
Hauntingly Epic movie.
Im one of the few people I know who went to see it. The run time kept a lot of folks away. I too was captivated and really only kinda restless within the last 20 min of the movie. That was more because I get antsy when I sit too long rather than the film being dull. Watching it in two takes might be a good move for some folks.
What, you can't admit the movie sucked??
@@ww2remembered983People are using stupid tired narratives like you just only like marvel movies or you are just triggered and a maga troglodyte if you didn’t like it. It entertained me and it was free on Apple TV, so I can’t complain. It had great cinematography and being an Okie myself I liked seeing my state’s history depicted on screen, but as a movie fan I can’t deny it could’ve been edited way better. I broke it apart into two nights and by the end of both I was still napping in my recliner.
@@mikeg2491 Gee, quite a word salad there man. Sure, I am anti-fascist, meaning I do not like them, or Nazi's. You see, my father and his buddies were WW2 vets and educated me on the subject. MAGA doesn't mind them at all, matter of fact, they use the Nazi's propaganda tricks right now. So anyway, you agree, that movie sucks, lol.
Watch The FBI Story (1959), narrated by James Stewart, who stars in it. They did a segment of what happened in Oklahoma, back then. One of my favorite movies.
I don’t usually look at running times of movies before I see them but I did for some reason, I’m glad I did cause I could imagine getting caught off guard with a 3 hour movie in a theater . That being said I felt the same way, I was into it the whole way and wasn’t hoping it will end like I have with other movies.
Killers of the flower moon is an important story certainly it became more something people started to be aware of when the book came out, and scorcese did an exceptional job not just on the adoption of the book but in the whole story and involving the osage people to help to tell the story. There are many people still living descended from those murdered osage indians that martin scorcese talked to in preparation for the film.
Meth Damon really became a serious actor, real good acting.
He’s in it for like 5.7 seconds
@@bobinchainzand he makes every second count
He’s been a serious actor for some time now lol
i wish norm was alive to review this movie
It's a cinematic masterpiece. Will be look at more fondly in the coming years like the Irishman has been.
Wow, he pronounced the title properly!
One of those movies you have to force yourself to sit down and really watch, but so worth it. And to think marty is still making movies of this quality and this consistency is really goat activity
I saw it in a theater with probably less than 10 people, 3.5 hours flew by
Loved it. But it didn’t have to be that long. A lot of those scenes could’ve been cut for a 2hr30min feature
When Bill Burr at the end said that every best picture movie deserved to be there, I was surprised because I thought he would hate Barbie. lol
Well, he did say "so far". Maybe he hasn't come to it yet!
Barbie was great. It was nothing what I thought/had been lead believe it was going to be.
I think he's friendly with Bradley Cooper so he can't be honest there either.
@@daveclark8337 Bradley Cooper you say?
I’m not a Robert DeNiro (the person) fan, but I thought his acting was amazing. It was like he remembered how to do it again. Why there isn’t more talk about his performance, I don’t know. Leo too - those 2 together had some great scenes. Maybe because Lily Gladstone was SO powerful in a quiet, dignified way - did she knock them out and wind up dominating?
My aunt & uncle loved it. Looking forward to seeing it soon.
1:53 I don’t think Bill would like ‘Past Lives’ very much. I didn’t really get into Maestro but I’m going to give it another chance when it’s playing in theaters in a couple weeks.
I thought this movie could have been a lot better but I still liked it. I wish Scorsese would have kept his original idea for the script but he wanted to be respectful of the Osage so I get it
I thought it was so good. And it was so well paced, which was my main problem with the Irishman, which felt like 5 hours. The only thing that held it back for me, and this is a personal thing, but I wanted more of MOLLIE!! I was so invested in her story, and I feel like it should’ve been more about her!
Crazy i feel the complete opposite. This movie NEVER got going. He is a master director and he showed off his skills but the movie was a snooze fest.
@@cumeatchinorgordan7024I don’t think Martin has it any more.
@@tommygunn940he's over 80, what does he have left to prove to you?
@@murk4552 He claims he wants to keep making movies when I don't think he should. I'm not saying he just now lost it, he hasn't had it for a while now.
I genuinely don’t understand how anyone can watch this movie and think Scorsese shouldn’t work anymore. I can understand saying it’s too long or not as good as his best work, but I can name films he did from any other decade that it’s better than.
yep i saw it in the theater and didn't even get up to piss once
Look at billy hollywood here!
It felt like just 2 hours
I like this movie way better than the irishman.
I didnt know how long it was until i was an hour and 45 minutes into it. I checked to see how long it was and i was like wtf.
Mr James Whale, would it be a problem if you changed your intro? it always gives me a jump scare (youtube adverts are bad enough😂). regardless, great stuff
Finally got around to watching it and it is so depressing!
It's not a movie I see myself re-watching.
That says more about you
A movie about a group of people being systemically murdered and robbed with little to no recourse to fight back was depressing? The hell you say.
Agreed. It was pointless. And quite truthfuly felt of white worship. These were horrible crimes. And the movie paints these white man heroes. 😢
Depressing and boring . Barely made it through it and I’ll definitely never watch it again
@@bobinchainzgo watch marvel movies kiddo
Gee, look at the horses!? Um....low threshold of excitement there, buddy. And he put it all on film!! Yeah, Bill, it's called a movie.
He hasn't seen Maestro lmao
Not the dead flowers 😭🪶🪶🪶🪶🪶🪶🪶. Release the directors cut, now blood meridian 😱
it's okay movie but the photographic is really awesome
"photography"(cinematography)
It’s beautiful in person too! The rolling hills and prairies of Osage County are truly something to see.
After Mean Streets, Good Fellas, Gangs of NY, Casino and The Departed, Scorsese finally made a film about the real original criminal gangsters of this country....WASPS.
Amazing :D :D :D
For the record, Philadelphia was not a Picture nom
"it flies by" said no one ever
but still -- great filmmaking and powerful story
The movie should be required viewing for History classes in HS and College....
Best movie of 2023 is Godzilla Minus One
For someone who loved the Irishman even when so many were hating on it, I found this movie to be a bit tiring. It’s beautiful, it’s story is well made and put together, but something just didn’t click with me like some others did.
The horses in that opening he's talking about is CG lol.
It didn't fly by. It was like watching a term paper, much history, but no energy.
I need to hear him talking about Poor Things now.
Bill is really just a film nerd disguised as a guy who would bully a film nerd.
Great movie, would have been one of his best if he cut an hour from it
I’m surprised Scorsese didn’t cast DeNiro as a 17yr old boy.
How they adapted the book to movie is pure genius. The book was devastating...the movie destroyed me.
Which film was ever nominated that was about cruelty to animals? WTF? I wish.
Great to hear Bill's hairless nutsack of a review perfectly describe the bullshit-free landscape that is Killers of the Flower Moon.
What's your point?
Sorry, ignore the stupid language - I think quite a few people brushed Flower Moon off as woke, brainwashy stuff, but I didn't think that at all. The film has arrived at a time when people are walking delicately over "cultural issues", and are afraid to treat Flower Moon as a film worth critiquing, so instead they see it as a "cultural statement" beyond reproach. The real point of Flower Moon is that it could happen anywhere, which is why, in true Scorsese fashion, it will endure.
@@walkerzupp8393 it's boring, and people are already forgetting it.
Would’ve liked to see Jesse Plemons’ character in Killers merge with Todd from Breaking Bad…”Tell me Ernest, what’s your favorite Dr. Hook song?”
Not to be a hater, but I am guessing Bill has not seen 'Maestro' yet
It was a good movie but it could have easily been trimmed down by an hour and been just as effective if not more effective
Yes. I thought it was riveting
Saw it in theatres opening night in IMAX, thought it was kind of mid tbh
Sorry but it dragged and you already knew the motivations of everyone in the first 15 minutes defeating the point of the rest of the (lengthy) screentime.
6/10
Amazingly shot movie, the subject matter is so depressing that it’s a 1 time viewing for me.
The stinker is Maestro
Oscarbait of the year
I liked it. Something was missing from it but I was impressed overall.
cigarettes are a main character in Maestro
maestro is a better movie than killers of the flower moon and it’s not close….
Maestro is a fuckin’ zero! 😂
Bullshit, saw it in theatres and felt every second of the runtime even though I enjoyed it. Not my favorite Scorsese by a longshot but glad I got to see it.
I wonder if he liked Oppenheimer.
Better than Gangs of New York and the Aviator.
Definitely better than the Aviator.
This movie was wayyy better than the Irishman
Maestro is this year's stinker. Society of the Snow should have been nominated for Best Picture in its place.
It was a very good movie 🍿 Better than Oppenheimer in my opinion.
Does Bill think Barbie deserve to be nominated for best picture 😂?
So I had a dream that I took my friends to see this movie because I saw it and thought they’d like it. But the theater cut out a bunch to make it 90 minutes. My friends didn’t like it and I was so mad! lol
I agree. It’s one of the greatest films he’s ever made. Unfortunately, Oppenheimer is going to win.
"HIS NAME IS FAT DAMON"
It was a good film. I prefer the Irishman with its weird casting choices over this film however.
One of Scorsese's best? I don't know about that. Shocked Bill loved this.
This is his worest by a mile. 😅
I agree with you, easily Marty's second worst film ever in my view. Leo was great and a few other actors in it were strong, but story wise it was very standard and uninteresting for the most part. All of the modern Scorsese films look good visually, I agree with Bill on that aspect only.
@@Rubrick23. Silence was even worse in my view. I'd say it's his second worst.
This movie was a masterpiece
@@jh2245you’re so obviously racist and can’t critique the movie lol
I gotta strongly disagree with this one it did not fly by. Bout 90 minutes in I was like “man this is flying by I’m so glad I finally get to see Scorsese in the movie theatre I bet it’s already almost over.” And then I realized there was still 2 hours left and then it reaaaalllllyy started feeling like it was dragging.
Goodfellas, departed, casino, gangs of New York, shit most Scorsese movies are long runtimes but fly by. Cannot say the same with killers of the flower moon or Irishman. Still great movies tho.
The run time was great, well paced. The Irishman is definitely an hour too long, but amazing first 2 hrs. Killers was great start to finish.
Killers of the Flower Moon is great, but it will never be Goodfellas. It's somewhere in Casino territory.
i like it a lot more than both, especially casino. not even too 5 of his
There’s so much more weight to this one than goodfellas. Time will tell just where it lies in how important it is in Scorsese’s filmography
That’s like comparing Schindler’s List to Catch Me if You Can. They may both be Spielberg movies about crimes, but the tonal similarities stop there.
Killers of the flower moon is Scorsese's second worst movie after the Irishman and behind the age of innocence. Casino is way better than this piece of shit.
Nah, definitely better than Casino. That movie is overrated.
Well crafted but I had a problem with the script - you can either follow two reprehensible characters in Leo or Deniro, as they systematically murder and swindle, or Lily's character who basically does nothing but react to all the brutality around her. She never tries to get out from under it. It's fascinating but hard to hook into anyone. Even Henry Hill of Goodfellas was charismatic and they never showed him murder anyone.
She literally goes to DC to bring the government in to investigate which is what stops it
I mean shes the one who travels sick to appeal to the President in person to help stop it. That really happened and the movie shows it
Gladstone's character for one was debilitated - she was literally being poisoned. And she does try to do something by going to DC.
@@-Patali- fair point, she doesn't do nothing. it's just that her character is mostly reactive instead of active. whatever happened in real life happened, i'm not judging that, more so as a character arc
@@noodle123ify Yeah I feel that. I understand where people are coming from when they say the movie should have focused on her. But Scorcese went the true crime route focusing on them because he didnt think trying to present it as a mystery would work
Wow. Bill went almost two full minutes before he got back to what fucking irritates him.
“Is it cruelty to animals”
Well, kinda
If Bill would have went all the way through in one sitting, he would have seen that it does not fly by. The last 1/4 drags imo
Yeah for retards maybe
If you are checking out the lighting and framing of a film, wondering how the director "got the shot"... that doesn't scream "great movie". That seems to be a clinical and cold reaction to the technical mastery of the film. However, despite admiring the craftsmanship, I found "Killers" to be a desperately bleak film and I have no desire to watch it again. To clarify, I don't think it is a bad film... but it was not a pleasant experience.
I don't think a pleasant experience does the subject matter justice.
@@PauLtus_B I feel most viewers are praising the subject matter rather than the film.
@@tccandler I wouldn't be one of them.
Not that the subject matter isn't important to me but otherwise I would've felt that the subject matter deserves a better movie (which is how I feel about the Imitation game).
I'm not going to argue that we should elevate certain movies above our emotional engagement with it because they're supposedly "important" but not every story needs to be entertaining or even cathartic to be worth something. There are plenty of movies which are very important to me and I'm very happy I watched but at the same time can be so painful I don't want to revisit them often. They can still be formative and honestly make you into a better person. Sometimes they can help you feel something that you already knew was true and should probably change your behaviour but before felt distant enough to ignore it.
That said, I found "Killers of the Flower Moon" to be very watchable (besides just sitting that long not being that comfortable). The Zone of Interest to me was the movie that I thought was great but I also just don't want to watch again. I wasn't even excited in the way I usually am when I see something miserable but nonetheless shows an interesting and impressive artistic vision (although it definitely is that).
@@PauLtus_B Agreed with almost all of that.. I still graded "KOTFM" a 7/10. I didn't dislike it. I simply feel that I would never want to revisit that level of human depravity ever again.
@@tccandler Which is totally fair!
I can be quite a masochist when it comes to film but even then there's plenty of movies that I just think are too miserable for me to rewatch. I'm also not nearly as "brave" when it comes to documentaries.
I just found KotFM artistically interesting and beatiful and occasionally actually entertaining enough to be fine with that.
Although the main feeling I got from it was still a whole lot of white guilt.
Going back to your very first comment:
I think it's actually somewhat fair to say it's not that good a sign for a movie when you end up thinking much about the success of the technicalities but it does depend on what kind of film watcher you are and how much you know about how these things are made. I don't consider myself knowledgable of acting for example so when I find myself thinking "great acting" while watching a movie it can mean I'm just not engrossed with the actual performance to forget about the fact I'm watching an actor acting.
I liked it but I can’t help but feel had Scorsese made this film roughly 15-20 years ago, it would’ve came out a bit more pristine and just better overall. He would’ve shaved it a good 20 minutes at least if not a little more, which I didn’t have a problem with the runtime but it absolutely could’ve been trimmed at least a half hour almost.
Also, I was fine that they decided to focus more on Ernest over the cops but I was a bit disappointed by how Scorsese seemed not even the slightest bit interested in the cop angle with Jesse Plemons and his entourage until the last hour of the movie. I clocked it when I watched it the second time and the first time you see Plemons is at the roughly 2 hours and 15 minutes mark, with his entire story being crammed into roughly the last hour and 10 minutes or so.
That’s part of what I mean by had he made this film a bit earlier in his career, say mid to late 00’s, the story would have had a better balance overall. Also, I felt he shouldn’t have had Eric Roth as the writer for the screenplay, I feel he should’ve stuck with Steve Zaillan, who co wrote The Irishman for him. Much better dialogue in The Irishman in my opinion. Regardless, still a very good movie overall, definitely would not have it in my top 5 Scorsese movies all time, most likely Top 10, though if it would make my top 10, it would probably end up somewhere between 8-10. I did really like how he’s framing death scenes, not only in Killers but he did it in The Irishman, he tries to not use quick cuts and loud/catchy music as a backdrop, he doesn’t make killing loom glamorous anymore, he frames the shot almost like a painting, it’s usually from a far if not at least not a close up, with no music except for whatever background noise is in the scene, and he lingers on the shot of the body after the murder happens, almost forcing you to soak it in and the brutal reality, there’s no catchy song in the background, it’s just cold blooded murder. The way he framed Anna Browns murder in the woods is a perfect example of what I’m trying to say.
Sorry for the rant, love Scorsese and I really liked Killers a lot, just not as
much as I thought I would. Still a top 3 film of the year for me, Poor Things is by far #1 movie of 2023 though.
I agree but then I didn’t read your comment to the end as like the movie it was overly long and a bit tedious.😂
L.D was going to play the Plemons role. The book focused a lot more on him. The FBI agent lead quite a remarkable life, but I think they were a little scared of being accused of making a white man savior role and not focusing enough on the Osage tribe. So, they switched LD to the role of the husband.
@@Daniel-sh3osit was less that than the fact that the story wasn’t a mystery. The killings were going on for years before the feds even showed up and the tribe had a good idea of the people behind it. Keeping it FBI centric would have made it seem like a Law and Order episode where you see the cops show up a couple hours after the body was found, which would have been dishonest.
@@mrnobodyz It always baffles me when I read comments like this. Maybe they should stick with TV shows instead of movies if they're that worried with their 'precious' time ...
@@JaK1NaBX I think 1 1/2 2 hrs is plenty time for most movies. There have been quite a few overly long recent movies I could quite easily chop out half an hour, forty five mins, same with a lot of tv shows that seem to purposely stretch out the stories in the knowledge there is a season or two to fill. I watched ‘The iceman Cometh’ recently it had two intermissions crazy to think that in the 1930’s people could spend six hours at the theatre. I’d need a lot of gruds to do that. Goodnight.
It was shot beautifully and looks great. For what this movie is it encapsulates what they were trying to portray perfectly but the subject matter is so fucking boring.
Great flick, not for Michael Bay Fans.
I consider Scorsese the greatest living American film director and have for decades. Having said that, the Irishman was...not good. In the decades to come I figure it will be...less good. (mostly due to the not good, very bad, near unwatchable miscasting of the main character)
It was not great. Best part was Leo, Gladstone’s character was just stoic & had the fever half the time. De Niro was forgettable outside of speaking a Native language. It brought attention to the tribe but did not celebrate them in any way.
Celebrate what?
Why do they need to be celebrated? Why cant they just be portrayed in a normal way? Just because they're not white and they're native american they need to be "celebrated"?
@@frbnd6848that’s literally what the film did at the end. They portrayed Natives as dumb drunks for two and a half hours and then celebrated them with Scorsese speech and the drum circle. Tone was all over the place and portrayed nothing but stereotypes. Only time it worked was as a black comedy. But even then, who wants to watch a comedy about racist mudderers.
Billy Hollywood. Lol.
"Once Jesse Plemmon's character shows up," is the comment that begins the downfall of every movie hes in.
I liked the movie, didn’t love it. Kept me engaged, but I thought it was too long. They coulda cut like 25 min out of that movie easily.
I wonder what bill thinks of Past Lives
I don't think he believes in reincarnation.
This is weak for Scorsese. Even for Scorsezze this is weak. It had some great imagery in it like the slaves working in the flames but still weak. I was expecting a lot from it and it under delivered. I had a theory that it would compare to Once Upon in America, bc that was Sergio Leone who spent his whole career directing Westerns finished off with a gangster movie. And here's the gangster movie guy doing a Western at the tail end of his career. So I was expecting it to great. But it was really only sort of a Western. In "America," Leone casts Henry Fonda who was known for playing the good guy, and has him play one of the best bad guys in all of cinema, and nobody saw it coming. And so here is Scorsese casting De Niro who made a career playing bad guys, and the trailer makes him look like a bad guy, and I was really hoping for the twist where it turns out that De Niro is actually the good guy and nobody sees it coming and he's one of the best heroes. But naw. There was no twist at all. It's just, oh, these guys are killing people... they're still killing people... and now they got caught. I've seen that a million fucking times. No comparison at all to Taxi Driver. And even though Scorsese started off trying so hard to make it seem so old school like it was actually shot in the time period, it was clearly modern because all the Indians are fat it's sad to say. Everybody is fat in this movie. Leo got fat, Lily is fat, the detective who is "on their tail" is fat and kind of a dork. Although that line at the beginning, "I like my women thick," that was the bomb I was like HELL YEAH in the theatre, but the pic peaked there for me.
Also the script is so unimaginative. When Leo gets caught and all he says is, "Here we go," like come on Scorsese. Everybody who thought Leo should get a best actor Oscar for frowning the whole movie didn't see Oppenheimer. Scorsese was trying to make it compete with Oppie with the court room stuff at the end but he just didn't do it like Nolan did it. I love slow movies but the ending of this shit dragged. Should have been a stage play really. And we don't even get any tits. Oppenheimer gave us Florence Puff's tits on IMAX. All we get out of Killers is one shot of what's her name's thigh.
The high points of the movie for me is the girl thinking that the guy who has been murdering her was actually curing her. Calling the poison the cure, that's saying something about COVID right there, and our whole establishment and society and the pharmaceutical industry (thank you spell check). And then she forgives him and stays with him? That's an abusive relationship, that hit hard. And the double shot walking through the jail with all the prison bars whizzing past camera, right on. And the director at the end being the narrator of the radio play, and seeing through all the sound effects and bull shit, meta. The scene in the cult was striking too I'm not going to forget that.
I think that what Scorsese was trying to convey was that the accomplices went free for confessing to the murders (why else would they describe in such vivid detail their crimes). And the real twist is that there were dozens more murders committed by dozens more murderers and the Feds just prosecuted this one death and called it a day. But three hours is a long time for a public service statement.
Not reading all that
"Calling the poison the cure, that's saying something about COVID right there" You are so fucking funny, please stay stupid cuase this shit gold
Crazy how someone could yap for so long yet nothing comes out
@@JaK1NaBX I LOL'd at the part where he says "and we don't even get any tits"
Fonda wasn’t in once upon a time in America, he was in once upon a time in the west. And the actor-character twist in this movie is Leo playing the most seediest downtrodden character of his career.
Looks like a hipster movie
Can’t say I agree with Bill. Movie cinematography wise felt flat color wise… like Marty couldn’t make up his mind whether he wanted a black and white film or color. There’s also a weird greyness or monochromatic nature of it. Just look at the sky and grass… they almost blend together.
Granted, it could have gone the “teal/yellow” or “pale brown/blue” route like a lot of modern films, but I wasn’t impressed. Movie is alright, but Bill jokes about “The Message” trope and yet the movie does exactly that: is it AIDS, racial discrimination or the Holocaust? Oh! We have a winner! The ever tried and true “White Guilt”!
You think we’ll ever see a movie about Woodrow Wilson and how he nuked any racial progress made since the Civil War? Or how Lyndon Johnson fabricated the Tonkin Bay incident to justify the Vietnam War? Or Obama giving that drone strike order that led to 153 innocent people trying to have a wedding getting blown to smithereens? Or the Zebra murders, where a group of African Americans were going on a mass murder spree of white people in San Francisco in the late 60’s? Or how the Atomic Energy Commission experimented on black and white people in Tuskegee and Oak Ridge, TN under President Truman? Yeah… probably not.
Well you just gave me plenty to consider in terms of ideas, all of those sound like they’d make compelling movies if done right, now we know they’ll be hard to get made for “reasons” but as a so called black man myself, I’d like to tackle some of them, especially the zebra murders which I had never heard of until now. Thank you for the inspiration, hopefully they get made, I’ll try my best. And I agree with you, KoTFM fell a bit flat to me. Thought it was a bit preachy at times
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well done sir, well done. I couldn’t agree more.
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I don't understand why Barbie in nominated. Its an ok movie but cmon.
It was a dumb, pointless, meandering movie that somehow was racist against both Natives and Caucasians. Lily Gladstone was meh. Not her fault but I’m not gonna pretend it was an impressive performance just to be woke.