Bill Burr & Joe Rogan - Movies That Don't Hold Up
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Bill Burr & Joe Rogan discuss movies that everyone liked back in the day but if you watch them today, they don't hold up.... like Lord Of The Rings & Star Wars.
Podcast Name - Joe Rogan Experience Podcast 228
By - Joe Rogan & Bryan Redban
#BillBurr #JoeRogan #JRE
Name a movie you find overrated? 🤔👇🏻
For Meeeeee - It’s the Harry Potter series
Any Christopher Nolan movies i.e. Inception and Dark Knight
Titanic.
Most if not ALL of the marvel movies lol
Blade runner....weird keyboard music and dark rainy boring sets....gloomy and boring 😅
My kid watched Bill on the Mandalorian.
His comment: "How can a guy look like he is 30 and 60 years old at the same time?"
What we've been asking for decades now lmao
Your kid gets it
Lmao hell yea I can't unsee it now
True! 😁
Your kid's comment made me laugh harder than Bill trashing everything 🤣
Bill Burr's rant on Chewbacca is the funniest thing I've ever heard. "He's hanging out with the humans, and next thing you know, he's sitting upright in chairs, drinking little juicy juices."
Most Boomberiest take of all Boomer takes
He's so fucking funny sometimes 😂
Imagine if he gets paired with a wookie in a future Star Wars show.
@@TheRoyalFino that would be hilarious
Kyle dunnigans character who has only read the books thinks chewy is like a little dog . Hilarious
The only awful take here is Joe saying old movies suck compared to nowadays. There have been terrible movies in every era, (most are) but the good ones always hold up. Casablanca is an incredible film. Gold Rush by Charlie Chaplin was funny even without sound. I was shocked to see not only how good, but how relatable they were even though they're 80-100 years old.
Joe's an idiot.
Modern movies are horrible, Joe is just an easily entertained dude-bro.
Yeah, a lot of the progress cited is technological progress in film, not simply acting. The older films featured different cultural and stylistic forms of human expressivity that I appreciate.
@@Sidera17 Yep. Check out Buster Keaton too. My favorite of the silent era.
Sunrise.
Disagree heavily on the movies. Some of the special effects might not hold up, but the acting, ideas, and lack of formula allowed movies of the past to be much more pure art. Nowadays you get the feeling the movies are made based on data analysis of an audience, and not a directors pure vision of a story. Edit: in fact, I would say older movies, like Lawrence of Arabia, and Tora Tora Tora, hold up much better than CGI movies of the 2000s (Pearl Harbor, Prequel Star Wars)
I would say that the popularization of CGI is actually a sign that the arts have regressed. We've prioritized technology to artistry and creativity.
If you referring to Mainstream Hollywood looking for a summer Blockbuster, I totally agree. It takes some digging, but there are good movies out there that don't have these problems. Look at some Movies produced by A24 to start. They aren't all great, but many off the beaten path, like The Witch, Ex Machina, Everything, Everywhere, All at once, Midsommar, It comes at night,. Plus many more. Just search for A24 Movies.
The Production Code that Hollywood had to follow from the mid 30's to the mid 60's meant that almost all movies had a formula. So many subjects were off-limits and the good guy always had to prevail over the bad guys, while still getting the girl, and then he had to marry the girl before they could have sex. The stories in old movies are often crap, but the performances and especially the cinematography set them apart from modern movies that contain hundreds of cuts. There is no point in painstakingly setting up a shot in a modern movie if it will only be on the screen for 2 seconds and heavily processed. If the dialog is intended to be generic and over-dubbed for non-English markets, then the script is kinda pointless too.
@@SirVic42 I agree to a point. Hitchcock made some phenomenal films in the 50s. And I believe the best animated films were the 50s and 60… as well as movies like the sound of music and Mary poppins.
Whats a tora tora tora??
So many of the old movies had better plots and better dialog than most of the crap today.
Exactly. Also is easy to shit on old stuff when they didn’t have access to modern filming technology and editing techniques. It is also unfair since every new generation of movies brings something new to the table to build upon.
to be fair we only watch the good old films. noone goes out of the way to watch old garbage
The difference I've noticed is that older movies had simpler plots and tighter scripts. There's too much fluff and excess in most modern movies that should be cut.
i just now saw Tombstone, even though you couldn't get away from it in the 90s and man is that movie good. writers these days just take the low hanging fruit because the low hanging fruit pays millions, the Hobbs and Shaw, the Oceans 18s, the Ghostbuster's remake of remakes of remakes. gotta feed themselves somehow.
Most modern movies are woke forced diversity anti white propaganda.
You know what you can watch over and over? Original RoboCop and Predator. Good shit.
Dude, when I saw Robocop, I flipped out. I must have been 10 years old. when the red head bad guy is being boiled alive….still haunts me to this day. So dope!
Especially Predator. That movie is the literal definition of badass
Terminator 1 and 2, Predator, Robocop. 100%
@@HugoStiglitz88 it’s also the literal definition of satirizing the “SO BADASS” movies of that era. Every hunky, oily dude dies and the main guy has to resort to traps and strategy rather than brawn to win.
There’s also Jesse Ventura shaving a clean face in the middle of a jungle, which is comedy gold.
the thing too
I think it's the opposite older movies hold more magic for me. They were much harder to get made so the art of them is better and they were more cared for. Movies today are just mostly forgettable. Movies are slicker today but the art is lessened.
Not really just easier to make movies same as games music everything so you see more shit
It depends on the movie. I like movies from the 80s and 90s, when they were still using analog film stock. The image just looks way better and more natural with the colors and the film grain, than these new all-digital cameras, it looks like everything is made out of smoothed out play-dough. But anything older than that I find them kind of strange. The pacing and everything is just slightly off. And I actually like very slow paced, contemplative movies, like the "colours" trilogy but older movies aren't like that. Its just weird and hard to explain what I mean. I guess I would say they aren't immersive, it feels like you're really watching something separate from reality rather than a window into another world that really absorbs your imagination. That's what it feels like to me. Maybe its because I didn't grow up during that time so I can't relate to it, that could be the reason. But I completely agree, movies nowadays totally suck for the most part, its just following a formula and algorithms based on what will make the most money (For the most part with the big studio movies, but there are still a few gems here and there every once in a while)
Nah, it's just you, kids living right now will say the same stuff in 30 years
@@Eralen00 It's like...uhh...so weird like, ya know? That's a great explanation of what you don't like about films more than 30 or 40 years old.
@@tekharthazenyatta2310 I tried to explain it the best I could using examples and context. And I only used the word "like" as a comparison word, or to mean "such as," or to express approval. You're trying to make me sound like a teenag egirl when in fact, I didn't use it as a filler word in a single instance.
Bill says he doesn't understand Star Wars, but he showed up for that paycheck on the Mandalorian, which tells me he understands Star Wars just fine. Lucas would tell you himself, "It's all about making money."
Someone had to say it
I adore that Bill singing club techno still has his signature boop-boops in it and his female voice saying "ohmygod." Thank you very much for making that your end-of-video music.
LOTR is fucking timeless and forever fantastic.
It is fantastic sir love that stuff fantastic! I LOVE star wars also 😨❤
It's the definition of timeless
timeless meaning they take forever
@@johnnyskinwalker4095 maybe if you didn't have the attention span of a woman you'd like them more
@@johnnyskinwalker4095 Guess what? We want them even longer.
Imagine trying to condense such a marvelous and big journey into a 1.5hr movie.
The taste on some people, yikes.
Bill as Migs Mayfield on Mandalorian was so good, we need some more of that character and Burrs point of view in Star Wars.
I love when people who enjoy watching sports, can't see the irony when they criticize people loving the shit they loved as kids and still loves. Sports, adults playing ball, and its fine but the same as liking Star Wars etc.
So true. 😄
Fucking well said.
But Star Wars is a total of what 16 hours of content? There’s only so much there even if you add in the shows and comics. Sports is current, there’s always new players, trades, highs and lows of careers. Plus it’s actually REAL lol
@@chestercheeto9768 yeah but plenty of grown men cry when their team scores lol , over someone kicking a ball, your gunna cry? Lmao. At least Star Wars has emotions we can connect to
@@chestercheeto9768 The entire point of art is the deeper meaning behind it and how it effects/ helps you understand the world we live in. Films like Star Wars and Lord of the Rings are full of illuminating content that can be and has been discussed for 100's of hours in a way that actually shapes the way people live their lives. eg- Frodo, the most incorruptible character of the film, being unable to willingly destroy the ring at the end of his quest speaks volumes of the human condition. Anakin's love that caused him to destroy all that he held dear because he did not have his priorities straight is similar.
Sports is fleeting, no reflection on the nature of reality nor providing a new way of looking at the world. Vacuous entertainment that steals your time without giving anything back.
Lord of the Rings was legit the best movies ever made, particular the Return of the King. Most awards ever.
"There's not that many Wookies."
*Star Wars Holiday Special has entered the chat*
Bill lost me when he thought Star Wars was sci-fi. 🤣
Seriously though, even as a nerd, as soon as Bill starts a rant, it's always hysterical.
Bill Burr: Star Wars is shit, it doesn't hold up.
Also Bill Burr: Hey I'm in a new Star Wars show everybody!
He clearly did it for the paycheck & that’s fine. A lot of the actors that are in the MCU didn’t grow up reading the comic books.
Yea agree it’s a job and gotta pay the bills
At least his acting was good too lol
Jon Favreau thought it would be hilarious to cast him since he bashes on Star Wars all the time. I think it's hilarious. Plus he brings in that attitude that Harrison Ford brought where he could care less but also wants to do a good job.
He was given the role in Mandalorian BECAUSE he wasnt a Star Wars fan. That role was written for him specifically.
20 bucks says Joe knew what Hoth was
Much Love Yall!
Saw Bill Burr in Dec of 2001 opening for Brian Regan. Been a fan ever since and has never disappointed
Wow, did Bill do a clean act? I remember he said he used to go clean back in the day.. and Regan is a pretty clean guy.. it would be kinda weird to put them both together today.
Because the LotR extended versions have intermissions, I think the best way is to watch the movies in 6 2-hour parts - the story is supposed to be in 6 parts anyway, and I've read it was only released as 3 books for economic reasons.
You’re supposed to sit down and watch all 3 extended editions back to back to back. That’s the only way. It’s hard to do when you don’t have an adult attention span
Binge that sh*t the whole day, they are so enjoyable that way.
Quite the opposite. Tolkien wrote 1 book. It was the publisher that requested the division.
Looks like you're right, thanks for the correction. Shoulda fact-checked that one :p@@jonathanaliff6121
I love LotR but this is hilarious. Those movies are definitely long and I don’t come to Bill to get movie recommendations. And his SW episode was easily some of the best starwars.
Bill??? You're in a Star Wars related TV show??? And you're awesome in it!!
Joe Rogan with the muscular build and Bill a stick figure is too good😂
Watched it the first time late night and tired and thought this is one of the funniest bits ever. I watched it again this morning fully energized and thought this is probably the smartest and most accurate bit ever.
I can't agree with most of this.
I think this podcast episode is from like back in 2012. I doubt even they would agree with most of what they spewed here.
Old movies might be clunky, because they didn't have the technology we have these days. But the storytelling, craft and scripting were so much better
Bill was above Joe's average Golum reference.
I wouldn't say the 1960s. The 1950s gave us a lot of great movies like 12 Angry Men, those Hitchcock movies like Rear Window and North by Northwest, one of my personal favorites in Singin' in the Rain. I think the cut-off point is anything before 1940.
I'll bite: Dude, there's a whole planet of Wookies. It was the one planet the Empire couldn't take control of. Fun fact: Chewbacca had a speech impediment, and normal Wookie speech was even more gutteral and indecipherable than he was. They are communicating complex thought and are a highly intelligent lifeform. The only lifeform to reach Kardashev 1 status without using synthesis and the like. All the materials they use remain, to some degree, in their natural state. Now all that's left to do is wait for the cries of: "Nerd!!!" to commence.
Hey Greg you arent in high school anymore brother. You dont have to project your bullying
I'll bite. Nerd! Lol
What’s a Kardashev? Was that originals or prequel?
No, that’s really cool..!🤓
Yeah but those lizard mofos kept them under control.
Jaws3 was considered bad back then.
Bill, point out on the dolls where Chewie touched you.
Feigning ignorance is a great way to have fun with somebody's passion lol plus it's a great way to pick up on when someone is doing it to you and you can laugh and respect the play
“Almost Famous” is a 4 hour movie about a guy proud to be in the friend zone.
This makes zero sense.
"I am a golden god"
That movie made me fall in love with Kate Hudson tho she was brilliant in that movie.
"If you want to give someone a dream, write a book; if you want to share with someone your dream, make a movie." - TEMjr
I agree that old movies typically suck, but the idea of movies when people had such little experience with T.V. or movies was to show them a world that doesn't exist to show them what might be. I always hated those old movies when the dialogue just breaks into a damn song for a long time with all the people around getting involved.
thats so weird because ive never been interested in dragons swords or movies with that medieval tone to it, yet they put lords of the ring in theaters in 2020 and i watched it for the first time and i felt this was better than most modern movies and that, surprisingly, the cinematography and even the cgi holds up to this day and i understood how influential the cinematography is to modern blockbuster huge budget films
In the book Return of the King after Sauron is defeated there is a whole B plot with Saruman taking over the Shire, it's almost a completely different book.
You know he's only fucking around. You can't take him seriously. He is brutally honest and some people don't like it.
How can anyone watch Star Wars and not see Han and Chewbacca are a cowboy and his Apache sidekick?
i love lotr, and bill. he's a bit ignorant, but aren't we all?
I get it, Bill has talked about his ADD and I can’t imagine it’s easy to watch or read if you have add
Fellowship has a lot of setting up to do in the beginning, so if you miss something or are waiting for action I can see it getting a little dry
@@cameronblack7984 I love the books and movies and I still love Kevin Smiths joke in clerks 2 about it being three movies if people just going for a walk🤣
@@sladehildebrand7518 I don't have ADD and my take on the LOTR is summed up perfectly by Bill. No shade to anyone who loves them (several of my family members) by they were not for me.
Its like making fun of the godfather because of the scene where Santino beats up a guy in the streets with very bad stunt moves... or the "I talked to Barzini" scene in Vegas. Its still one of the best trilogies ever
I have tried, TRIED, TRIED to watch the first Star Wars and I couldn't get through it when I was 14 and I can care less now that I'm in my 40s.
Nobody is making you do that. You’re allowed to dislike things
Bill is a sports fanatic, which to me is just as interesting as Sci fi is to him. A bunch of rich whiny babies throwing some type of ball. We've all got our lane :)
I'm guessing this was before he did his scenes for the Mandalorian. 😎
Bill Burr LOTR: 25 minutes, tops!
Joe made me laugh talking about the Wookiee lol. It’s rare joe makes me lol
Despite being a huge fan of the LOTR and Star Wars universes, I still totally get why those who don't get it, don't get it. Either you buy the universe or you don't. It's like when someone doesn't find a joke funny, and the person who told the joke tries to explain it---which suggests that the other person simply didn't understand it, and that if he did, he'd find it funny. "Well, you don't appreciate LOTR/Star Wars because you don't understand their greatness." That's what's wrong with people today. They operate on this premise that everyone who doesn't agree with them "just doesn't understand/doesn't know enough about" the topic. Dude, people can know/understand every angle of what you're selling and still not buy it.
Christ, Joe's lack of knowledge or even common sense regarding film, never fails to startle me ; how can he think Jaws 3-D came out in the 60's or 70's?
I always fast forward when his talking about movies
It just sucked
It’s funny listening to this and the Bill was in Star Wars shortly following this. 😂
Bill has no issue biting the hand that feeds. I love it! Hilarious!
They hired him when he was trashing SW
Those movies at 6:15 are all outstanding.
He was in Star Wars. LOL.
Mandalorian
Bill Burr’s description of drinking at the beginning is exactly how I am at this age
Jaws 3D came out in 1983 what a fucking horrible example
🤣🤣🤣💀💀💀💀
How do you diss an era of films, yet mention a film from the wrong era when citing an example of a film from the era you're trying to criticize?
21stcenturyhiphop exactly
I met one of the directors of 'Sharknado' amd he even knew the movie wasnt great but he was like "made my money" 🤣
What Burr is hitting on is that you eventually get sick of stuff as time goes on and you expose yourself to broader tastes- or at least it should.
No.
nah
I love how they leave bill a stick and only Joe's legs are sticks lol
"Lemme tell ya something see?" 😂
Jaws 3D was released in the 80s not 70s.
As a film major, anything with a BIG bugdet and big name actors sometimes get thrown into the "Epic" or "Classics" pond based on that context alone. Its those film's that I find overrated.
There is approximately 500,000 Wookiees left in the galaxy that we know of. We still haven’t explore the unknown regions yet so that number could be greater.
Lol being he was in Star Wars makes this that much better.
Hustler is my fav. Movie and it’s a perfect movie. Still and will always like Casablanca or Maltese falcon the third man
Old movies are much better, they actually have interesting stories...
I’ll take an older movie over anything out today. The over the top CGI involved with every movie now makes me feel like I’m in the middle of a video game.
The funniest thing about Bills shitting on star wars is that he became one of the best characters in one of the best star wars series ever!
What pod is this from? Or is it an old JRE.
Lost so much respect for Bill. Yes, there are movies that look 'cheesy' and are objectively 'bad'. But technology has also made filmmakers lazy. Star Wars and LOTR are still some of the greatest movies ever made. The Thing is probably the best horror movie ever made and has that stop motion animation/etc.
Lotr is a collection of movie making mastery, Star Wars....not that much, the original trilogy is of course worth a watch but pretty much everything made after them is dog shit as far as good quality movies go.
I never cared for lord of the rings when it came out. Star Wars is still great today.
The Return of the King. How many fucking endings did that thing have? Half the audience in the movie theater was on the stairs staring at the scene saying "end already. Now, he's writing a book... now he's leaving on a boat?!" 😂
LOTR are arguably the best movies ever made. OG Star Wars still holds up incredibly well
The best part is after trashing Star Wars, Bill went on to give one of the best acting performances in a Star Wars product.
I get Bills Star Wars/ LOTR hate l'm 59. My top 3 movies are A Clockwork Orange, Vertigo & Taxi Driver.
I love how the text is censored (e.g. fxck) but the audio isn't.
Like GTA V the NPC's will curse you out in a very filthy manner just for being near them but they ****** in the text chat between players.
Bill Burr is so disrespectful with his contempt. It's one of the greatest thing to witness someone who was so much contempt for most of the world and expressing it through pure jokes and unfiltered anger!
Dude. A comedian was saying funny things. Don’t take everything so seriously
@@brickhouse2265 I'm commenting on how hilarious his contempt for everything is. You missed the point.
@@brickhouse2265oh the irony
The jocks still bullying the nerds. We've come a long way
The nerds and weirdos are the bullies now. These guys are just old.
Lord of the Rings is timeless. And it’s pretty ironic that Bill is shitting on Star Wars when everyone loved when he was on Mandalorian.
Disney heard this and said to themselves Hire this man now
Where is this from?
And now Bill Burr is a Star Wars figure! Lol
Yup. Either drink or not drink.
Joe becomes such a beta when Bill is around. It's awesome
He knows bill is the superior comedian and podcaster
People's loves become about perfection in their mind rather than affection for all that they are, good or bad.
Whatever year that was I went to summer camp and was isolated from the world and came home and everything was Star Wars and my little brother was all excited said he'd already seen it six times. I saw it once and never bothered with any of the sequels.
Lee Marvin comment after viewing 1960s Doris Day movie:"Yet another movie where nobody takes a shit"
well... are we surprised that dudes like Joe Rogan and Bill Burr can't evaluate art? 90% of the best movies made come from before 1960. Those are the movies which literally invented the styles that everyone after them adopted.
It's almost like art is entirely subjective and everyone is entitled to their own opinion of it...
'Cant evaluate art' oh dear, anyway I'd say movies in the 70s were actually the best
Literally man child.
What’s funny is bill burr is one of the most beloved Star Wars character
I'm not gonna lie, I grew up in the time period they are talking about. But it's just funny as hell to hear them rip into it like that. 😅
The funny thing is that chewy is known to rip peoples arms off lmao.
I Love that he shit on LOTR🤣😂😆
He hates lotr until they offer him a roll
Should've put him in as Tom Bombadil.
@@samus598 lol yes yellow boots and all
I'm a fan of Peter Jackson's horror films and I really want to like LOTR. I think they're gorgeous and incredibly well made films....but they're so fucking long that a rewatch is impossible for me.
You have to check out pre 1934 movies before censorship.
Wait he's IN star wars?!
Damn you Burr!!
100% agree with Bill on the fade to black fake out from that first lotr movie.
was thinking in my head… hmmm theres heaps of wookies joe haha
UA-cams recent ad selection makes me want to lock myself in my car without ac
Blade Runner and Alien. Totally agree with Bill.
Lmao I lost it when buff stick head Joe Rogan popped up
Listen to early Beatles, bubble guy music.
I wonder if BB would dig Seven Samurai
Bill is the greatest...only he could come on here (Presumably Joe's podcast) and rip Star Wars and then take an acting gig on a Star Wars show, and not get crap for it.
LOTR is the finest 12 hour movie ever made