The Osage Murders: The True Story Behind "Killers of the Flower Moon"

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  • @The1920sChannel
    @The1920sChannel  Рік тому +1531

    CORRECTION: Bill Smith was not Osage, but white, and the photo I used for him was mislabeled online. I'm not 100% sure, but I believe the photo is actually of William Stepson, another victim, who was Osage. I couldn't find any photos of Bill Smith.
    There have been a number of comments about the line near the end of the video where I said, "If it hadn't been for the money and oil, perhaps none of this would have happened to the Osage." I just want to say that this was not intended to downplay the role that the perpetrators played. The truth is that I couldn't think of a good way to end the video, so I went for something generic. I think the video as a whole makes it clear that the victims deserve empathy and not blame. Please don't look too much into that last line.
    There's also some misunderstanding about my reference at the end to getting rich "without doing any actual work." This was not a dig at the Osage, but a dig at the perpetrators, which is why the language is a bit strong. The last thing I want is for people to think I was disparaging the victims.

    • @JT-mj5ud
      @JT-mj5ud Рік тому +46

      Just found this channel searching for the story behind the Osage as I've already pre-purchased tickets for the opening of the movie. I love the channel , quickly subscribed and look forward to watching all previous content as well as future ..

    • @Jilla0559
      @Jilla0559 Рік тому +151

      Better to say; “ if it had not been for racism; the Osage people would have been left in peace to enjoy their good fortune ! !” This is a story far to late in the telling !

    • @1woksape606
      @1woksape606 Рік тому +33

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      *Great & powerful prayerfulness is a Christians birthright and obligation
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      *Also humility, wisdom, prayerfulness, courage, persistance, respect, gratitude, and being honorable decent humanitarian human beings.
      * God bless your people with fruit of the spirit and Golden rule Godliness...

    • @1woksape606
      @1woksape606 Рік тому

      We are in the greatest spiritual warfare and destitution in all of human history. Its a God versus evil war to the death. Our daily Godliness, morals and prayerfulness are a matter of life and death every day..
      * AntiChrist lefties are trying to take over the church, Christianity, America, Israel, media, education, institutions, Vatican, Democrats and the world
      * Vatican Exorcist Fr. Malichi Martin knew the third secret of Fatima and though he had an oath of secrecy he despised the church hiding it- he could allude to it though and said in 1996 that it was about Russia, Ukraine and 3 days darkness. He was murdered three years later and an official version of the secret was released a year after his death..
      * The cowardly and diabolical abandment of exorcisms, spiritual wafare, deliverances and Godly Holy Spirit infilling has caused all the destructions in the world past and present
      * Christians should prayer walk & drive around their communities and capitals regularly; it brings Gods presence, drrives out evil and blesses Gods people..

    • @gerrymcglynn7390
      @gerrymcglynn7390 Рік тому +21

      Sir, i just watched 👀 your videos 📹 with amazing insights into the Osage ,after watching another video by a gentleman David Grann and the book you mentioned Killers of.the flower Moon.❤😮
      IF THIS NEVER HAPPENED AMERICA 🇺🇸 WOULD BE A DIFFERENT PLAICE TO DAY WOULD YOU AGREE WITH THIS. FROM IRELAND 🇮🇪 ♥️. ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT AND BEAUTIFUL 💯 😢. GOD BLESS YOU SIR.THANK YOU.

  • @AmbivertsBeLike
    @AmbivertsBeLike Рік тому +3648

    The disgusting way our Indigenous people have been treated in their our own country...there are no words.

    • @indigodolphin687
      @indigodolphin687 Рік тому +19

      Yes but you always forgive and forget?

    • @judymusselman567
      @judymusselman567 Рік тому +95

      ​@@indigodolphin687 not always

    • @oatdilemma6395
      @oatdilemma6395 Рік тому +92

      Oh so countries do belong to a certain ethnic group? I thought that was nationalism and racist

    •  Рік тому +46

      ​​@@indigodolphin687
      Why hide behind a preaching if the basis of the religion you preach is "love your neighbor as yourself"?

    • @Mrs_SBIV
      @Mrs_SBIV Рік тому +22

      @@indigodolphin687 unbelievable

  • @ma3d4y
    @ma3d4y Рік тому +676

    As Native, I never knew about this until I asked my dad what movie he was watching because it woke me from my sleep. I also live in Oklahoma, and I had NO idea this happened. Tells you a lot about our country in terms of education. They don’t want us to know the bad things that have happened.

    • @ahabgaddis7277
      @ahabgaddis7277 11 місяців тому +4

      They already teach plenty of bad things. And they don't teach much of what indians were capable of doing either. So what?

    • @justmeboorockstar2085
      @justmeboorockstar2085 11 місяців тому

      ​@ahabgaddis7277
      So what???
      It matters what white people did to Natives.
      It matters what our ancestors did to each other.

    • @ahabgaddis7277
      @ahabgaddis7277 11 місяців тому

      @@justmeboorockstar2085 this particular story doesn't matter, no

    • @justmeboorockstar2085
      @justmeboorockstar2085 11 місяців тому +26

      @@ahabgaddis7277 it always matters 😂

    • @ahabgaddis7277
      @ahabgaddis7277 11 місяців тому +1

      @@justmeboorockstar2085 it really doesn’t. This specific story is not important to know

  • @hmcmordie3606
    @hmcmordie3606 8 місяців тому +85

    Man’s greed and how we treat eachother is shameful rip poor souls

    • @macareuxmoine
      @macareuxmoine 6 місяців тому +5

      Is it really “man’s”? Or is it connected to certain cultures that feel entitled to take over others? There have been Indian tribes that rather lived content with just nature and provided.

    • @michee144
      @michee144 6 місяців тому +3

      White man

    • @Froby2378
      @Froby2378 5 місяців тому

      @@macareuxmoineyes it is really “man’s” to think it isn’t and it is only specific to one race is just stupidity.

    • @macareuxmoine
      @macareuxmoine 5 місяців тому

      @@Froby2378 great you smear others with accusations of stupidity without actually addressing the arguments. I guess you just lack the IQ for that. And maybe you educate yourself on my example before you partake in any discussion with me.

    • @resonancegirl
      @resonancegirl 5 місяців тому

      @@Froby2378In this case it’s WHITE MAN, Since it was WHITE PEOPLE who colonized the indigenous’ land. And ruined everything, like they always do.

  • @annehersey9895
    @annehersey9895 Рік тому +2874

    That was a great book and unlike many other Native American tribes, the lawyer who headed the talks with the US government was adamant that the Osage retain mineral rights. The US government to this day still owes this tribe millions in a settlement that took almost 100 years to resolve.

    • @johnreed8336
      @johnreed8336 Рік тому +104

      Why am I not surprised ??

    • @brucelachniet8698
      @brucelachniet8698 Рік тому +61

      I took my DNA 3 years ago. I found out my Ancestors were Land Granted thousands of acres of land.

    • @Capdub
      @Capdub Рік тому

      Fuck them they lost the war the dot deserve shit

    • @Capdub
      @Capdub Рік тому

      ​@@brucelachniet8698you're lucky we didn't just wipe you out you should be kissing the white man's feet

    • @jroppegard2624
      @jroppegard2624 Рік тому +41

      The sick a-holez still owe us all!

  • @nikkioshea4139
    @nikkioshea4139 Рік тому +6415

    Many indigenous women & girls are still going missing, some found murdered today, majority unsolved. It's a scandal happening in real time.

    • @extraolive2006
      @extraolive2006 Рік тому +207

      Different reasons, though. The ones who are murdered today (like our 'Highway of Tears' in Canada) are marginalized sex workers.

    • @b.a.j5168
      @b.a.j5168 Рік тому +175

      ​@@extraolive2006 in the US, it's been around that f'n pipeline

    • @fuerstinhun98
      @fuerstinhun98 Рік тому +223

      ​@@extraolive2006 Sex workers or sex slaves??? There's a vast difference. It's well-known that sex slavers and cannibals, they're synonymous, LOVE dark skinned people for their victims, especially children and young women.

    • @gonpow
      @gonpow Рік тому +82

      The men should stop it

    • @gonpow
      @gonpow Рік тому +1

      ​@@fuerstinhun98 this is one fucked up world

  • @helanna9843
    @helanna9843 2 роки тому +1782

    I read the book several years ago. It was a great book but heartbreaking. I'm glad a movie is being made about it - it is time for us to accept our own history, the good and the bad.

    • @jimmybright7579
      @jimmybright7579 2 роки тому

      I know I was shocked to find out people were greedy and injustice took place when a Rome was built...next thing u know we will be told Indiana's outnumbered whites in people's and arms and we're not angels and were hard core savages themselves not the helpless wolf lovers who talk to the sky....and they lost was all..but that can't be true

    • @geekmeee
      @geekmeee 2 роки тому +24

      Agreed.
      And it’s also time to ponder what we’d give up.

    • @ismailbashir7149
      @ismailbashir7149 Рік тому

      This is a tual Africa's major problem and it's still happening in Africa ?because our Leaders have compromised us ,America and France are this extorting Nigeria #Sadly

    • @tommanzitti678
      @tommanzitti678 Рік тому +46

      ...and to STOP being complicit.

    • @bigmike208McDizzle
      @bigmike208McDizzle Рік тому +43

      There is more bad than good.

  • @Ganbarizer
    @Ganbarizer Рік тому +1027

    As a member of a federally recognized tribe, I can tell you that things like this are the reason why so many natives tend to keep to their own and learn from a young age that you do not disclose to non tribal members when you get per capita (if at all. depends on the tribe). Even then, we still get people who only show up around the time of year when it's distributed and try to aggressively sell us things. I have no idea how they know when we get it.

    • @tammyroach3286
      @tammyroach3286 Рік тому +106

      I know how they know. You said it yourself. FEDERALLY RECOGNIZED.

    • @janetduncan87
      @janetduncan87 Рік тому

      If it's tied to The Government, like the fellow who went to Washington, that's a red flag. All they have ever done is steal from Indiginous tribes. Fuck the wealthy Elites who do this.

    • @AmigoKandu
      @AmigoKandu Рік тому +45

      Charles "Indian Charley" Curtis was VP under President Herbert Hoover. Charley's mom was mixed Kaw / Kansa / French from Indian Territory.
      Charley did good in school eventually became Congressman and dealmaker.
      Curtis thought all Indians should modernize, and assimilate, but his efforts were twisted by all the greedy politicians when Oklahoma became a State.
      The Indian Claims Commission formed to "help & reward" the tribes would often terminate their tribal status!
      The Indian Gaming laws sounded good, but casinos were built by massive loans so banks and corporations pulled-in big profits... and donated back to their favorite politicians.
      Famous Cherokee Will Rogers often called them Congress Critters, and he was right!

    • @kimsmith5083
      @kimsmith5083 Рік тому +8

      What does that mean. Per capital?

    • @kimsmith5083
      @kimsmith5083 Рік тому +9

      Per capita

  • @elizabethcimino6559
    @elizabethcimino6559 Рік тому +52

    I saw the movie this past weekend with my son. He is a History teacher & I learned so much about our own History. I believe it is crucial to learn as much as we can about American History.....banning books does not change a thing. (it only perpetuates ignorance, which is never good.)

  • @hsuanlin0227
    @hsuanlin0227 Рік тому +290

    I read this book in Taiwan, they have Chinese translations . It’s a such shocking history and also very tragic .I think it’s very important that a injustice facts like this should be known by public . Thank you so much for making this video .

    • @carlosacta8726
      @carlosacta8726 Рік тому +3

      Hello, I'm very curious about how this was received among the Taiwanese public!

    • @hsuanlin0227
      @hsuanlin0227 Рік тому +4

      @@carlosacta8726 Let me look into it , and let you know later .

    • @zt3823
      @zt3823 Рік тому +12

      I'm not Osage, I'm Ponca. Another Tribe forced to relocate to Oklahoma. Even though this is a sad story it makes me happy to know that other people around the world read our stories. Just wanted to say I thought it was cool you knew about this. I love history and not just ours, I've always thought the way the Taiwanese perform in their ceremonies is so beautiful. Thanks again just for knowing about us as a people!

    • @carlosacta8726
      @carlosacta8726 Рік тому +10

      @@zt3823 Hi, I'm from New York. There are many, many people in this country that are interested in your stories and want them to be told to the entire world!

    • @painhatesad
      @painhatesad Рік тому +1

      ​@hsuanlin0227 hi i would also like to know how it was viewed!

  • @ftevids1715
    @ftevids1715 Рік тому +1536

    I watched this movie. Greed was behind all of those murders.
    Hale was a wolf in sheep's clothing. What happened to Molly was really sad and maddening. Her own husband was slowly poisoning her with the guise of insulin do to her diabetes. How a man could claim to love his wife then conspire to kill her and her family is beyond reason.
    I was so happy when the FBI moved in and save Molly.
    My heart aches for Molly and her family. May they rest in peace.

    • @Bricks_shakur
      @Bricks_shakur Рік тому

      Why don’t you shut the fuck up spoiler alert

    • @ftevids1715
      @ftevids1715 Рік тому +84

      @@mickeyoneil1015 My intentions were not to spill the beans about the movie. It was my intention to point out the senseless killing because of greed.
      This is why the American Indians wish that Plymouth Rock had landed on the pilgrims.

    • @thaithaiox
      @thaithaiox Рік тому +108

      I just saw it too and read the book last year, people don’t realize the natives of this country have been treated so terribly since white settlers first came here. This topic infuriates me so much

    • @Darkness-ie2yl
      @Darkness-ie2yl Рік тому +14

      just like king viserys. people think these shows are just fiction. reality is worse

    • @javiervillarreal7965
      @javiervillarreal7965 Рік тому

      ​@@thaithaioxI am infuriated as well.

  • @meequon1
    @meequon1 Рік тому +853

    The original novel written about this history by a Native American woman Linda Hogan called Mean Spirit in 1990 was nominated for a Pulitzer prize in 1991, worth a read also from a native person's perspective.

    • @donsronce7298
      @donsronce7298 Рік тому +17

      Thank you for the info. I will ck this book out

    • @helenkessler6012
      @helenkessler6012 Рік тому +3

      I read rhat one

    • @jonasdauerbrenner6432
      @jonasdauerbrenner6432 Рік тому +2

      thx bro

    • @alvildasophiaanaya-alegria8419
      @alvildasophiaanaya-alegria8419 Рік тому

      Thanks

    • @thingme9941
      @thingme9941 Рік тому +15

      The story reminds me of Winston Churchill's response in America to reporters during the War when asked about proposed Indian independence. "What Indians are we talking about? The Red ones who under American control have been decimated? Or are we talking about the Asian Indians who under British rule, their population has quadrupled?"

  • @ronwynn95
    @ronwynn95 Рік тому +10

    Thanks! Well said! It is a necessity to bring these stories of truth to all.

  • @jayelemm.4838
    @jayelemm.4838 3 роки тому +858

    I watch an unhealthy amount of videos from UA-camrs, such as yourself, about crime, murder, forensics, etc. I have heard about a great many cases. This one was not one of them. Absolutely fascinating and your research was impeccable. Very nicely done!

    • @Lisa1111
      @Lisa1111 3 роки тому +25

      I would not necessarily say that learning different things is "unhealthy" my friend.

    • @scrapeteel920
      @scrapeteel920 2 роки тому +10

      Will they benefit 🤔 from the movie?If not WHAT'S Changed? This shows progress from the small pox blankets implemented before hand?

    • @donhuber9131
      @donhuber9131 2 роки тому +11

      @@scrapeteel920 Nothing has changed. Now they are not allowed to collect royalties for wind turbines on tribal lands.

    • @wizarddragon
      @wizarddragon Рік тому +7

      @@scrapeteel920 The most important thing that changed was the fact this level of corruption was made legal not too long ago.

    • @petebondurant58
      @petebondurant58 Рік тому +2

      @@scrapeteel920 The small pox blankets story is a myth.

  • @lorrainem8234
    @lorrainem8234 Рік тому +25

    A friend of mine invited me to see the movie last night. I rarely go to the movies because I don't find them to be worth the cost, but "Killers of the Flower Moon" was worth every penny - and your documentary here is also excellent! This was a heartbreaking story that I believe more people should know about.

    • @Bonzi_Buddy
      @Bonzi_Buddy 4 місяці тому

      Did they mention the people who did this were democrats?

  • @Zzx75
    @Zzx75 Рік тому +380

    My Aunt May was living in Tulsa in the 1920's. She was set to marry an Osage Native American. The whole family loved him. Sadly, she passed from pneumonia at age 18. Im glad these atrocities are being exposed.

    • @tyrellcobb4665
      @tyrellcobb4665 Рік тому +1

      Did he have oil money?

    • @RealAlexLambert
      @RealAlexLambert Рік тому +9

      You made this up. So you know how everyone in "the family" felt 100 years ago? lol

    • @Badficwriter
      @Badficwriter Рік тому +19

      @@RealAlexLambert My great great grandparents kicked a daughter out of the family for singing publicly, because they considered that to be whorish. Everybody knew how *they* felt.

    • @Badficwriter
      @Badficwriter Рік тому +12

      @@ChadBradley-hg4pk 4/10 Weak effort troll

    • @meghasinghania1
      @meghasinghania1 Рік тому

      So you think the atrocities that happened with the Native Americans were a good thing?? @@ChadBradley-hg4pk

  • @resourcenetworksystems9547
    @resourcenetworksystems9547 Рік тому +909

    When I was in the Military I had a close friend in my platoon who was Native American and he told us this story. I thought he was lying or exaggerating, then I went to the library (there was no internet then, Just AOL)
    But I found it was all true. The tagline that says: "Greed is an Animal" is chilling and all too true.

    • @BR-re7oz
      @BR-re7oz Рік тому

      No he was lying. And so are the anti-white propagandists in Hollywood who spread these blood libels about White people. If Whites were as vicious as they're portrayed in movies and TV shows, why is every nonwhite in the world desperately beating at the doors to get into White majority countries and move into White majority neighborhoods. If they were being oppressed/mistreated by Whites, wouldn't they be seeking greater separation from us and not greater integration and proximity.

    • @KrasMazovHatesYourGuts
      @KrasMazovHatesYourGuts Рік тому +1

      @@BR-re7oz Your troll game is shit.

    • @gyllenspetzfamily7993
      @gyllenspetzfamily7993 Рік тому

      These Whites were the same ones who burned down Black Wall Street. Not at all surprised.

    • @silence-selfenquiry7812
      @silence-selfenquiry7812 Рік тому +39

      Yeah it's hard to belive when u know ur ancestors were all animals than humans

    • @anntrope491
      @anntrope491 Рік тому +61

      Animals are not evil...only inhumane people are evil.

  • @billledoux6727
    @billledoux6727 Рік тому +152

    The movie was released in the US on 10/20/2023. I saw it yesterday and found it to be a very good production with excellent acting by Leo De Caprio and Robert DeNiro. The movie is ~ 3.5 hours long and really kept me interested throughout. I highly recommend seeing the movie. This documentary is excellent!

    • @johnng5016
      @johnng5016 Рік тому +9

      I saw it today as well and I never read about this gruesome history and was ver moved by how the the Osage were mistreated. 3.5 hrs long but well worth the time:

    • @t_do
      @t_do Рік тому

      What's the movie called?

    • @billledoux6727
      @billledoux6727 Рік тому +5

      Killers of the Flower moon. It was released in theaters last week (US).

    • @kaypee4704
      @kaypee4704 Рік тому +1

      Why see a movie, when the book is much better and closer to the truth….

    • @patface915
      @patface915 Рік тому +4

      @@kaypee4704 movies add a sense of reality. I relate to movies better than books as long as the movie is accurate and there is nothing wrong with my preference.

  • @alanar8046
    @alanar8046 Рік тому +173

    I just saw the movie and one of the lines that really stood out to me is a sentiment you echo here. The undertaker said The Osage don't work for a living and they got rich for nothing off oil. It made me realize that I have never ever once heard a white oil barrens or their families be accused of being rich for nothing without working. Even Paris Hilton gets accused of being famous for nothing more than rich for nothing. It really speaks to the assumption that it's natural for some white people to be ridiculously wealthy, but there is no other race in America whose wealth will go unquestioned. Or often like the Osage and Black Wall Street in Tulsa, it won't go unpunished.

    • @ahabgaddis7277
      @ahabgaddis7277 11 місяців тому +4

      you're just wrong

    • @tvp8501
      @tvp8501 11 місяців тому +4

      Exactly!

    • @marshamarsha4567
      @marshamarsha4567 11 місяців тому +5

      Thank you for this!

    • @NoObligationToday
      @NoObligationToday 11 місяців тому +5

      @@ahabgaddis7277about what…please explain.

    • @rasil4u
      @rasil4u 10 місяців тому +2

      However, it shall NOT go "unjudged" and believe me, it is imminent. Not only the Natives, but those ENSLAVED in this country!

  • @lishik7712
    @lishik7712 Рік тому +400

    I just heard of this because of the movie. Its unbelievable how dark some people's souls are. So, so sad. 😢

    • @Darkness-ie2yl
      @Darkness-ie2yl Рік тому +10

      Scorsese can't even tell you the truth about how high this goes. hale is just a minnow....

    • @Tenyo94
      @Tenyo94 Рік тому +16

      how dark yt souls are.

    • @hi.moriarty
      @hi.moriarty Рік тому +2

      @@Tenyo94 What is "yt souls" please?

    • @Tenyo94
      @Tenyo94 Рік тому +3

      @dontloiter the most destructive parasite on this planet.

    • @boxelder9147
      @boxelder9147 Рік тому

      ​@@Tenyo94i think the question asked was what does yt stand for? Id be curious to know myself

  • @zekelucente9702
    @zekelucente9702 Рік тому +83

    The Scorsese movie debuted at the Cannes Film Festival last week and it was very well received with many critics saying it’s DeCqprio’s best work. It’s a Martin Scorsese movie and you know it will be great. Scorsese said that Apple gave him everything he needed to make the movie. I can’t wait to see it.

    • @MikaTennessee
      @MikaTennessee Рік тому +11

      It also stars Tantoo Cardinal, Lily Gladstone, and William Bellau

    • @daleross9001
      @daleross9001 Рік тому +2

      If you don't mind name of movie 👍🤠🇺🇲

    • @zekelucente9702
      @zekelucente9702 Рік тому +8

      It’s called Killers of the Flower Moon based on a novel of the same name. The trailer is out and it looks like it’s going to be great.

    • @daleross9001
      @daleross9001 Рік тому +3

      @@MikaTennessee Tantoo yes / Dances with wolves . i love it rite up there with the Best ready. Rooster Cogburn. Original John Wayne🤠🐎. Thanks for listening// Don't forget Memorial Day 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲 Be safe

    • @well7885
      @well7885 Рік тому +7

      I’m an Apple employee. Just saw the movie today at Steve Jobs theater. It was an exclusive advanced prescreening for employees. Scorsese was here too. It’s undoubtedly one of the best movies of Scorsese and Leo. So heartbreaking and powerful

  • @geno7462
    @geno7462 Рік тому +69

    Just saw the film tonight and watching this, am pleasantly surprised at how closely the film stuck to the facts of the events

  • @JOSEPHCHARLESCOLIN2025
    @JOSEPHCHARLESCOLIN2025 Рік тому +10

    As a real North American Native American For me, this was the hardest movie I ever watched, and I am glad it shed some light on my people's problems.

  • @phlebgrl6064
    @phlebgrl6064 Рік тому +49

    This video about what the calculated acts of horror and what happened to this Osage Native American family over an extended period of time was extremely well done. Thank you for sharing it!

  • @kathiethompson6719
    @kathiethompson6719 Рік тому +44

    I just finished reading this book and I am so glad it will be on the screen in October 2023. There are many more murders that were never solved that relate to the oil and the money. I highly recommend the book, too!

  • @Alexei2539
    @Alexei2539 3 роки тому +246

    This was very well done. Thank you for teaching us some otherwise forgotten history.

    • @kevinjones5560
      @kevinjones5560 Рік тому +1

      This is merely a cliff notes version of the book. Just a retelling of what’s in the book.

    • @AB-wf8ek
      @AB-wf8ek Рік тому

      ​@@kevinjones5560 I guess that means we shouldn't be thankful for the effort that he took to make the video and share the story. Glad you saved me from feeling any sense of gratitude, I salute you 🫡

  • @corikenya4766
    @corikenya4766 Рік тому +35

    I just got out of the theater and was looking for a documentary. You did an excellent job covering it all!

  • @80sgyrl82
    @80sgyrl82 Рік тому +116

    Thank you for this in depth analysis. This brings dignity and humaneness to the Osage Nation.

    • @ChooseForToday
      @ChooseForToday Рік тому +6

      They were and are already dignified and human.

    • @kevinjones5560
      @kevinjones5560 Рік тому +2

      This was just a retelling of the book. Read the actual book.

    • @cattymajiv
      @cattymajiv Рік тому +3

      @@ChooseForToday Yes they were, but I see what the OP meant though.

  • @lakersin556
    @lakersin556 Рік тому +221

    I seen the movie last night. It's long but worth the watch. Damn shame what they did to Molly and her family.

    • @valvodka
      @valvodka Рік тому +8

      You might have watched a movie but you didn't learn grammar

    • @NotTooReal
      @NotTooReal Рік тому +17

      And the dozens of other Osage people who were also killed but never found justice.

    • @Dds75
      @Dds75 Рік тому +17

      So what , this is not grammar school.

    • @maydavalle
      @maydavalle Рік тому +5

      Justice for Charles Whitehorn, William Stepson, the man investigating, for D.C. and stabbed two dozen times, Henry Rohn, and W.W. Vaughn, the lawyer who was also stalked and murdered, along with all the countless unnamed ones who should be remembered.♥️

    • @Elizabeth-dw6lc
      @Elizabeth-dw6lc Рік тому

      @maydavalle...true. There were many honest whites killed who tried to help the Osage. Great comment!

  • @eagleman1542
    @eagleman1542 Рік тому +46

    I'm from Oklahoma and my mom is part Osage; the tribe has been in the area since long before it was Indian Territory as they lived in what is now Kansas, especially.

    • @karenbrooks7613
      @karenbrooks7613 Рік тому +4

      Sorry for the atrocious ACt committed to your descendants 😢

    • @desertsdetour3624
      @desertsdetour3624 Рік тому +2

      This entire American country is yours and native Americans every state is native American.

    • @eagleman1542
      @eagleman1542 Рік тому

      @@karenbrooks7613 You're sweet, sis; my dad's white/Shawnee so no hard feelings.~

    • @eagleman1542
      @eagleman1542 Рік тому

      @@desertsdetour3624 And yours as well; FJB.

  • @tonyblakemore3843
    @tonyblakemore3843 Рік тому +56

    I watched the film 2 nights ago.
    While I loosely understood what had happened and more particularly why, this excellent video clears up anything I didn't understand. Thank you.
    The fledgling FBI, I think, knew the motive very soon into their investigation and followed that with the likely guilty characters. As the video states it was the difficulty in linking all the complex financial payments back to the single source, Hale.
    Robert De Niro is shown as a largely beneficial man (offers $1,000 reward for information on 1 killing, opens a Ballet School) and that must have confused somewhat any Osage thoughts that he was the true evil amongst their people. In contrast, when behind closed doors, his ruthless character is revealed as he plots and pays to have his dirty work done for him.

    • @robertowens7153
      @robertowens7153 10 місяців тому

      The Osage murders and the FBI investigation was featured in 'The FBI Story" starring Jimmy Stewart and Vera Miles

  • @LindysEpiphany
    @LindysEpiphany Рік тому +119

    Its very sad that this story isn't more well known here in the United States. A very important part of history!

    • @vickieadams6648
      @vickieadams6648 Рік тому +10

      It's considered critical race theory to expose facts. People might go looking to equal the status by seeking reparations. Of course all that money and wealth may be in the hands of someone living today.

    • @8arrows
      @8arrows Рік тому

      The archeological history and cultural history of the Americas was written by Christians. Hence why the country didn’t learn about such things. But ppl in Oklahoma grew up hearing stories like these. Christians owe reparations, for their involvement with Native Americans and the slave trade. Christians are the ones the screwed up everything!

    • @kathrynlowrance2066
      @kathrynlowrance2066 Рік тому

      No, we are the greatest country in the world! We are perfect! Hide our atrocities and wrongs. Bury it! Then, point the finger at other countries for their same wrongs to make us feel even more superior. Our country is so f***ed up in so many ways!

    • @ChaiTogether
      @ChaiTogether Рік тому +1

      Yeah just learning now ❤

    • @fatherfreddie8512
      @fatherfreddie8512 Рік тому +1

      "We're still here ... We are not going anywhere." - Native Americans 😔
      "Slavery, Colonialism, Colonization & Genocide" are all evil things done by evildoers.
      For God's honest truth, pls read the informative multi-pages comment by 'Lonely Alaskan' at, "Complete History Of Indigenous America Before Colonialism/Chronicle"... It's on UA-cam.

  • @khalidalali186
    @khalidalali186 Рік тому +357

    The ending for those criminals was poetic. The man lived until the ripe old age of 94, in abject poverty, with most of his life behind bars too.

    • @gio-gk6nz
      @gio-gk6nz Рік тому +37

      What are you talking about the main criminal got a Pardon by having so much political power and still got to visit Oklahoma as he pleased he lived until his 80s in a retirement home not on the streets

    • @Darkness-ie2yl
      @Darkness-ie2yl Рік тому +18

      @gio-gk6nz because of his ... affiliations. they wrapped it all up and pinned it on Hale, but i guarantee you the thing went all the way up to rockefeller

    • @gio-gk6nz
      @gio-gk6nz Рік тому +1

      @@Darkness-ie2yl most likely

    • @neltins5308
      @neltins5308 Рік тому +2

      Yup, glad they shined light on Tom White's perceptive mind & doing due diligence in making sure the Native people got as much effort as possible as fellow Americans & human beings deserving of rights.
      It was one of the most difficult & first big cases the FBI had, and instilled a legacy of the types of agents they wanted to recruit.

    • @joshdude1975
      @joshdude1975 Рік тому +1

      Lmao that’s cute that you think that.

  • @NelsonStJames
    @NelsonStJames Рік тому +260

    At first I thought a story of this sort would be way outside of a filmmaker like Scorcese's wheelhouse, but as things started to fall into place it became clear that this was exactly the kind of story Scorcese excels at. Also it seems the Osage tribe had a tremendous amount of input into the production. Hopefully with so many a-list industry people involved this sad chapter in American history won't be forgotten, or dismissed.

    • @m3rrys0ngstr3ss
      @m3rrys0ngstr3ss Рік тому +11

      It's about as harrowing a crime story as there can be; it's right in his wheelhouse!

    • @shiwan45
      @shiwan45 Рік тому +7

      I wonder how it will do at the theater.🤔 I will definitely be there ❤❤❤The TRUTH exposed

    • @AthyDuGard
      @AthyDuGard Рік тому +11

      I sure hope he does the story justice since not enough was served at the time of these hideous crimes. 'Nothing about us without us' should be in affect when making films about particular cultures.

    • @rcjdeanna5282
      @rcjdeanna5282 Рік тому +5

      Scorcese is getting on in years and wants this to be both true and great....I hear DeCaprio has given his best performance...perhaps because he understands the character and the conflicts between love and success pretty well.

    • @tyrellcobb4665
      @tyrellcobb4665 Рік тому +4

      He sure knocked it out of the park. In a way when you think about it it's a movie about organized crime and gangsters. Except the crime organization is all of the town/county - the "good christian" folk.

  • @lizcoleman5229
    @lizcoleman5229 Рік тому +39

    Thank you so much for this very thorough summary of the Osage Indians and their history. I saw the movie and it was remarkable.

  • @tomroberts7221
    @tomroberts7221 Рік тому +106

    My late friend Hazel was Creek. Her family had Oklahoma oil. Whites did the same thing to her Grandmother Pittman. Ms Pittman fought the white overseers in court. Fortunately Ms Pittman prevailed.

  • @delaneyalusa
    @delaneyalusa Рік тому +118

    My husbands family lived through this. He remembers the stories his grandparents and aunts and uncles told and how they lived in fear

    • @malibudolphin3109
      @malibudolphin3109 Рік тому

      Sort of like how they always lived. Indians were very violent against eachother and Europeans.

    • @nospoon4799
      @nospoon4799 Рік тому

      I'm living through this right now. Freemasons killed my mother and father in law. This is a standard masonic operation. It doesn't just happen to native Americans.

  • @THREESISTERS15
    @THREESISTERS15 Рік тому +497

    The Native Americans have been placed in difficult positions since the beginning, and never given the respect deserved. My respect for these people and their culture, needs to be taught to all Americans across the board.

    • @anneliedorman2435
      @anneliedorman2435 Рік тому +20

      Amen the Kids need to learn Native American History

    • @aliceyoungdell3277
      @aliceyoungdell3277 Рік тому +17

      All 🇺🇸 AMERICAN PARENTS & OUR States Representatives should DEMAND A true AMERICAN HISTORY 101 CLASS start ASAP‼️
      Just like your film,
      it should be SPOKEN by the people whom lived through it themselves❣️
      🗣What’s being taught to OUR children is all
      HOG 🐖 WASH‼️

    • @zt3823
      @zt3823 Рік тому +16

      If you're looking to find out more of native history try reading Bury my Heart at Wounded Knee by Dee Brown. I'm half-Mexican 1/2 native and my Mexican Mother gave me this book because she wanted me to understand more than what they were teaching me in school. There is a HBO movie But of course it's not as good as the book that can't fit everything into it but both are very good. Just wanted to say thanks for supporting our history at a time where people want to erase it. I'm from Oklahoma and we are still dealing with a governor who thinks. We have too much say and too much power and actively tries to strip us of it. We stood together as one and said NO which is very rare for all tribes to stand together It only happens in times of crisis. All history is beautiful even in its tragedy and I just want to say again Thanks for supporting ours

    • @hankschrader7050
      @hankschrader7050 Рік тому +5

      If they deserve so much respect then how did they lose so badly.

    • @zt3823
      @zt3823 Рік тому +1

      @@hankschrader7050 You think We Lost? We're still here in America until the day we all die, You failed you could not kill us and no matter how much you downplay it our history is still taught. But if you want to know the true secret it's because they attack villages filled with women and children while the men tried to run to get the army to Chase Them. But they stayed and attacked the women and children Because that was the US army government way dealing with Natives. When they couldn't defeat the men in battle they killed the Buffalo because that was the last thing they could do was kill our food source. I have no anger against your ignorance it's not your fault they don't teach proper history in school, One day. 2050, caucasians and their descendants become the minority and I can't wait to see it, you should be honored to know what it feels like to be a Native watching the land change before your eyes

  • @DouglasF68
    @DouglasF68 Рік тому +52

    My great-great Grandma was Ojibwe and had her own business in the 1880s. Hollyweird needs to pay attention to indigenous people's successes despite the genocide.😢

    • @aliciaboricua
      @aliciaboricua 10 місяців тому +4

      Is the story they dont like to tell.they dont eant to acknolege thst minorites can be rich too.

    • @DouglasF68
      @DouglasF68 10 місяців тому

      @@aliciaboricuawithout a doubt

    • @Lucylou7070
      @Lucylou7070 9 місяців тому

      Agree with you 100%.

    • @SequoiaMoonSpeaks
      @SequoiaMoonSpeaks 9 місяців тому

      They will never do that. Just like they will never admit that the so called blacks are Native Americans and were not shipped here on boats from Africa. They’re in business to hide the truth not tell it.

  • @WickedDual
    @WickedDual 2 роки тому +138

    Excellent job! I’m a HUGE buff and lover of history. I never heard of this story but thank you for this video. The research and care you put in this is very evident!

    • @MattyNelson-rs3ik
      @MattyNelson-rs3ik Рік тому +1

      Just like TULSA OK.

    • @joannbowden6220
      @joannbowden6220 Рік тому +1

      ​@@MattyNelson-rs3ikand rosewood, FL. I grew up within 200 miles of rosewood yet never heard a word about the Rosewood massacre until the movie came out! Sad, just effing sad! 😢

  • @christinatucker160
    @christinatucker160 Рік тому +29

    How am I just now finding this gem of a channel? As a connoisseur of history this is a absolute delight. Keep the fantastic historical stories coming....just fabulous absolutely fantastic!!😊

  • @danielwall7281
    @danielwall7281 Рік тому +321

    The author's comments at the end of the book are chilling. He says it's very likely that far more killings occurred in the area.

    • @KahwahShutseh
      @KahwahShutseh Рік тому +67

      They definitely did. His story covers one family. This happened to many of our families.

    • @coryd2668
      @coryd2668 Рік тому +17

      @@KahwahShutseh I’m so sorry! 🥺

    • @zt3823
      @zt3823 Рік тому +33

      Unfortunately it is still happening to this day because Native Women are the number one people in America to go missing still. I don't know how we fix it but it feels like many in law enforcement do not care because of bitterness towards the fact we are are still around and not dead but thats just my opinion

    • @TheMooCowReturns
      @TheMooCowReturns Рік тому +15

      @@KahwahShutseh American history is appalling; the truth demands to come out

    • @christhompson3750
      @christhompson3750 Рік тому +11

      There were somewhere around 100+ people killed. This family was the only one investigated and make it to trial. The attorney who was killed trying to help the Osage, no one was ever convicted of his killing. They were terrified of who was next. Some left town and others who stayed were on constant guard.

  • @2ndRodeo_Keziah
    @2ndRodeo_Keziah Рік тому +28

    Thank you for this video. The trailer for the movie made me curious to find out what happened here. I don't enjoy super long movies (esp with excessive graphic violence, as this one apparently is) and who knows how loyal the filmmakers are to the historic facts. So I was glad to find your video to learn about the actual truth of the situation, exactly 100 years ago. Fascinating--though barbaric--history. 🙏

    • @tiahnarodriguez3809
      @tiahnarodriguez3809 Рік тому

      The film is based off of a book by the same name, so it’s not supposed to be accurate like a documentary.

  • @LiveLocalTexasMusic
    @LiveLocalTexasMusic 2 роки тому +83

    What an excellent job in summarizing such a complicated plot and excellent book! I read it too as soon as I heard there were plans in the works for a movie. The book was great and I had planned on reading it again once more before the movie, but your excellent video was the best summary and better than any trailer for the movie that anyone had attempted (without there being ANY trailer yet.) Thanks for this excellent piece of work!

    • @YourGraceMyLady
      @YourGraceMyLady Рік тому +5

      I been wanting to read this book for some time. I just recently heard it was being made into a movie. By Martin Scorsese nonetheless. I’m so glad that ppl are finally paying attention to Native American history.

  • @dakotaridgek9
    @dakotaridgek9 Рік тому +100

    My father is Osage. As am I and my daughters. I am not ready to learn the details or read the book or watch the movie , or even the trailer.
    The horror of learning my People’s history … never ends.
    There is ALWAYS more.
    And it will always be exploited for profit. Told by not us.
    My mother was Oglala Lakota. As am I and my daughters and her children.
    #stillhere #landback

    • @DreamCloud124
      @DreamCloud124 Рік тому

      If the United stated really dealt and acknowledged it’s origin, well there’s not enough money on the planet for reparations. This country is built on death.

    • @ChooseForToday
      @ChooseForToday Рік тому +9

      Luckily, unlike many other stories, Osage Nation & some of the families were very involved in the making of the movie, and leadership has been pleased with the outcome, per interviews.

    • @robinsonnier6887
      @robinsonnier6887 Рік тому +1

      You need to watch the movie

    • @mamiemartinson4649
      @mamiemartinson4649 Рік тому +3

      Grief has its own path and you are right to wait until you are ready. As a white woman with my own reasons to want full freedom and joy for the indigenous peoples I want this film to tell the truth and break the hearts of all who can rise up and make change happen.

  • @juliebrown9483
    @juliebrown9483 Рік тому +91

    My deepest sympathies for this terrible lost of your family. ❤️

  • @ronaldgersh6618
    @ronaldgersh6618 Рік тому +6

    I just saw the film on Sunday and was very impressed with the production by Martin Scorsese. However, I listened to the book first as an audiotape and read the book years later. I loved the book. This was a very good retelling of the story. The scales of justice were not well served in the killers' punishment since they were released from prison too soon. I recommend that everyone read the book. He has also written "The Lost City of Z."

  • @jeffdishong4853
    @jeffdishong4853 Рік тому +25

    It’s absolutely unbelievable how greed can drive people to commit indescribable atrocities. May God always bless the Osage people!

  • @tylerthompson1842
    @tylerthompson1842 Рік тому +17

    Marty never ceases to amaze me with choosing stories that have yet to be developed into a movie.

  • @terereynolds698
    @terereynolds698 Рік тому +233

    My grandmother was born on our reservation in 1920, and my brothers, sister and I grew up there, our grandparents raised my brothers and I, but my parents raised my sister. My grandmother had told us about when she was younger, they had to be put in caves at night because the Catholic priests would try to kidnap kids and use them to build the San Diego Missions. Grandma said the men would take turns watching the kids, protecting them.

    • @av1421
      @av1421 Рік тому

      Organized abrahamic religions are as corrupt as the money is...very bad...

    • @halimabouchekalperez5652
      @halimabouchekalperez5652 Рік тому +15

      How sad It really hurts your people, they are very strong and honorable, they really deserve all the respect from the United States for all their crimes, they are criminals,

    • @BR-re7oz
      @BR-re7oz Рік тому

      Your grandmother lied to you. I've met Catholics, I've met old White people. None of them seemed like the kind of people who go around looking for children to kidnap and enslave. Hollywood movies and TV shows aren't real. There's a reason everyone in the world is desperate to migrate to White majority countries and move to White majority neighborhoods. If nonwhites were truly being oppressed by us, then they would be seeking greater separation from us, not greater proximity.

    • @KrasMazovHatesYourGuts
      @KrasMazovHatesYourGuts Рік тому

      @@BR-re7oz Just stop. You're embarrassing yourself.

    • @dakotaridgek9
      @dakotaridgek9 Рік тому +6

      ❤️🦋❤️🦋❤️🦋

  • @sarahs3980
    @sarahs3980 Рік тому +2

    Thank you for this recap. I just finished listening to the book and it was nice to have the summary and be able to see the pictures. I will be looking for other videos on your channel!

  • @yikes7963
    @yikes7963 Рік тому +255

    My daughter is Choctaw and we live in Oklahoma. My daughter has this book. I hate what colonization did to the earth. There didn't use to be fences and borders and people's traveled freely and migrated with the seasons. No one owned anything but wanted for nothing. There used to be a society amongst the people's of the America's before colonization. Trading occured. Spirituality. Governing. Yet the colonizers claimed superiority over them because of MONEY. Money is the downfall of humanity.

    • @Shin_Akumi
      @Shin_Akumi Рік тому +1

      Lmaooo u live in a delusion. The noble savage😂
      Ask the Apache what the commanche did to them and took their land. Ask the Mexicans what the Indians did to them. Yall are the worst for ya bs.

    • @rickybobby6760
      @rickybobby6760 Рік тому +49

      I don't know why we buy into this narrative about what life was like for Indigenous people before colonization. You realize that they also had war among tribes, fought over territory, murdered and enslaved each other right? Committed full on genocide at times. Or do you think all of that was invented by Europeans?

    • @sayitasis8326
      @sayitasis8326 Рік тому

      @@rickybobby6760White Liberals need something to feel morally superior about, they're now the saviors of us po colored folks

    • @MattyNelson-rs3ik
      @MattyNelson-rs3ik Рік тому +3

      No it's the negative spiritual LOVE OF MONEY..

    • @MattyNelson-rs3ik
      @MattyNelson-rs3ik Рік тому +12

      ​@@rickybobby6760but that was them doing it to their own people, not people coming across oceans to deciminate people and holding themselves supreme..

  • @deanfirnatine7814
    @deanfirnatine7814 Рік тому +28

    My Mom used to talk about these killings, she heard the stories from her parents, she had some Osage cousins, the Osage were not the only ones this happened to.

  • @boomieboo
    @boomieboo Рік тому +80

    There's a film dramatization of a story very similar to this called " Thunderheart " starring Val Kilmer. It's about a half Indian detective played by Kilmer who's assigned to investigate the m*rder of a Native American on a reservation which leads to a much wider conspiracy that puts his life at risk.
    It's one of Val's best and a great movie that should be seen. Especially if anything about the story covered in this video is compelling to you.

    • @retalittlegeorge3067
      @retalittlegeorge3067 Рік тому +11

      My favorite film. Love Val Kilmer.

    • @mollylittlewolf9192
      @mollylittlewolf9192 Рік тому +5

      Great movie.

    • @coryd2668
      @coryd2668 Рік тому +4

      Tonight! Thanks 😊

    • @boomieboo
      @boomieboo Рік тому +7

      @@coryd2668 How cool. I did a rewatch after not seeing it for over a decade and learned that the film was inspired by real events in the 70s. Which was tragic to see was still happening well after Moon's story took place in the 20s.
      It was a little slower than I remembered for the first third of the movie. But stick with it because it picks up. And Ray's journey (Kilmer's character who was an FBI agent not a detective as previously stated) still holds up well and is what makes the movie.
      Hope you enjoy it.

    • @PeaceLoveDolls
      @PeaceLoveDolls 7 місяців тому +1

      This was the film that made me a Val Kilmer fan. My dad took us to Pine Ridge and Wounded Knee to see some of the places that were shown in the film.

  • @jimpeel
    @jimpeel Рік тому +4

    I have known about this story for at least 60 years. I'm 76 now and this was common knowledge of what happened during this time and I was raised in California.

  • @thechiefwildhorse4651
    @thechiefwildhorse4651 Рік тому +275

    This happened to me and my sisters.
    I was human trafficked by Mike and Kaye Byers of Winfield Missouri in 1983
    They stole my mother's death benefits.
    They live in a beautiful home In Winfield on Lone Dove Ln.
    One day the right attorney will help me get my home back
    -COMANCHE NATION

    • @estherepps6914
      @estherepps6914 Рік тому +32

      😥sorry this happened to you

    • @sherryhayhurst3027
      @sherryhayhurst3027 Рік тому +24

      Prayers to you & your family for restoration!😢

    • @zt3823
      @zt3823 Рік тому +22

      Prayers from a Ponca brother!! I hope you get justice sooner rather than later.

    • @TheAlexRosenPublicist
      @TheAlexRosenPublicist Рік тому +12

      ACLU too in St Louis. Was Mike Byers also known as John Byers?

    • @thechiefwildhorse4651
      @thechiefwildhorse4651 Рік тому +27

      @@TheAlexRosenPublicist
      John Michael Byers
      My siblings and I built the flower beds out by the mailbox when I was their slave.
      Log house with a large side deck and front porch
      -COMANCHE NATION

  • @kathykirchner6271
    @kathykirchner6271 Рік тому +29

    I had never heard about the Osage murders. Sad, but fascinating story. Beautifully narrated. Looking forward to the movie later this year.

  • @donaldjohnlong5330
    @donaldjohnlong5330 Рік тому +248

    This hits me hard, as my grandmother White Feather was a full blood Shawnee, from Illinois. She was born 1884 in Old Shawneetown and died in 1929 in Indianapolis. She died young st about 44 or 45 of pneumonia.
    She suffered most of her life from racism against Native Americans. She was forced to assimilate into white culture and she was very sad. I wish I had known her.

    • @mamiemartinson4649
      @mamiemartinson4649 Рік тому +7

      I hope this movie and the underlying movement to tell the truth about how the first peoples were treated helps to bring healing to all. What I have studied about native cultures shows me they loved each other, this planet and life. All cultures have problems and negative aspects, but that is no reason to just wipe them out. I will keep your Grandmother White Father's story in my heart and hope her spirit has found or will find rest and peace.

    • @dannylujan3619
      @dannylujan3619 Рік тому +10

      My grandma was USA Indian background but claiming to be white Americans... very weird and I'm proud of my bloodline.
      Hawaiian living in Australia 🌏🦘

    • @stephaniefield5524
      @stephaniefield5524 Рік тому +2

      As do I.

    • @dannylujan3619
      @dannylujan3619 Рік тому

      @@AronToulouse what part??

    • @dannylujan3619
      @dannylujan3619 Рік тому

      @@AronToulouse I use my real name as I have nothing to hide...
      Politician in my family USA...

  • @hollywoodamanda
    @hollywoodamanda Рік тому +9

    I don't recall ever learning about this in school, and I'm glad I saw the movie... it brought this tragedy to my attention. Such a shame this even had to happen in the first place. I'm sure the book is just as good, if not better than the movie

  • @susiesweet8003
    @susiesweet8003 2 роки тому +49

    Bless you, son, for not using a computer voice on your videos. 🥰 Very interesting story.

  • @ChristoDouglas-xq8ck
    @ChristoDouglas-xq8ck Рік тому +88

    I really appreciate all you have done to make sure these appalling criminals get attention.. even if they escaped the noose at the time.. at least we know the truth behind horrific actions because of people like yourself!! And for that Sir I commend you! I honestly wish there were more people who could stand up and tell their story

  • @afterhourscinema782
    @afterhourscinema782 Рік тому +38

    "Died in 1986"
    So weird that some of the people involved in this case were around when movies like "Back to The Future" were in theaters

    • @N00-k6o
      @N00-k6o 8 місяців тому

      I think it’s a big part of American Academia to try and push the narrative all this was “long long time ago” it’s a lot of indoctrination and societal conditioning to get us to this point. To the point of us being in awe at the fact of how CLOSE they were/are to our present times. It was all planned.

  • @lindak7499
    @lindak7499 Рік тому +23

    Your presentation was well done and informative. Thanks - such a tragedy! Apparently a lot of people are now looking at the Drummond family to try and make sure they obtained their Oklahoma land under the right circumstances.

    • @aydennoah3316
      @aydennoah3316 Рік тому +2

      They gonna be looking for a long while because they own 433,000 acres.

    • @issa9467
      @issa9467 Рік тому

      Very dubious that they acquired that much land under the "right circumstances".... if there is any right circumstance in which a white guardian steals money and headrights from the rightful indigenous owners

  • @brokl26
    @brokl26 Рік тому +367

    My best friend’s sister is a casting agent and she cast many of the Native Americans in the movie. She worked on Dances With Wolves, Bury My Heart At wounded Knee and several other films. Look up Rene Haynes, she’s done pretty well for herself coming from Great Falls, Montana

    • @JudgeDredd_
      @JudgeDredd_ Рік тому +15

      I know a guy who was an extra in this movie. He’s Puerto Rican haha. I think he said he’s in a couple bar scenes. Talked with him at a friend’s house on the 4th of July in Newcastle.

    • @dannylujan3619
      @dannylujan3619 Рік тому +1

      ​@@JudgeDredd_Newcastle Australia??

    • @JudgeDredd_
      @JudgeDredd_ Рік тому +7

      @@dannylujan3619 lol. Newcastle, Oklahoma

    • @oibal60
      @oibal60 Рік тому +7

      Saw the movie. Your (best friend's) sister did an excellent job!

    • @krack-a-lacker
      @krack-a-lacker Рік тому +3

      ok? why are you trying to make it about you and your cousin?

  • @harryopal
    @harryopal Рік тому +554

    As an Australian this story has a particular resonance as across this vast country Aboriginal tribes were decimated and had their land taken with the loss of great mineral and resource wealth. Generations of tribes were misused as slaves on the many huge cattle stations. The little money sometimes doled out for sweat and tears work was then often stolen by guardians. Aborigines seen as having committed crimes were shackled in chains and marched through outback areas to harsh prisons were they were held before appearing in court usually without legal representation other than that presented by the police who had imprisoned them. Punitive raids were widespread leading to massacres and terrible injustice. In the north of Australia a police force comprising Aborigines recruited in the south were used to murder and wipe out communities regarded as a threat to the white colonists who had spread across the nation like vicious locusts.

    • @jessiejames7492
      @jessiejames7492 Рік тому +35

      Very heartbreaking for sure. Theyre still being marginalised

    • @user-ke8st8jc1v
      @user-ke8st8jc1v Рік тому

      Sad ,human nature is greedy and cruel

    • @Nostalgic_1
      @Nostalgic_1 Рік тому +36

      Unfortunately, America is not isolated when it comes to crimes against Native Tribes.
      It's happened in more places than we would like to admit. 😢

    • @raquelb731
      @raquelb731 Рік тому +5

      What is the movie called?

    • @jessiejames7492
      @jessiejames7492 Рік тому +9

      @@raquelb731 killers of the flower moon.

  • @Mimibelle0304
    @Mimibelle0304 Рік тому +18

    I really appreciate this video because last night i randomly went to the movies and watched the killers of the flowermoon, I had no idea about the Osage and these murders and how natives needed handlers. Watching this video after the film gave me more deeper understanding. And knowledge of that time period

  • @catherineaiello7136
    @catherineaiello7136 9 місяців тому +3

    Excellent and disturbing video. Thanks.

  • @ladywisewolf3942
    @ladywisewolf3942 Рік тому +92

    You did a really good job on this video. Very professional and well researched. What a fascinating but tragic story. I'm glad that it is being brought to light after all these years. It may not bring justice for all the victims but at least their story can be told and their descendents can find some consolation and peace with that.

  • @Yabadabadoo16
    @Yabadabadoo16 3 роки тому +43

    Your video's are extremely intriguing, you seen to have a real passion toward's the 1920s, a grand decade. My favourite is the 30's, It's a mixture of the 20's and 30's. I think your video's get enough recognition for what they are, they are very informative. Thank you for making them

    • @thomaslucas6079
      @thomaslucas6079 3 роки тому +3

      If Trump gets reelected in 2024 I hope the sun does explode.

    • @horacegentleman3296
      @horacegentleman3296 3 роки тому +5

      @@thomaslucas6079 seek help

    • @wingman5985
      @wingman5985 3 роки тому +5

      @@horacegentleman3296 I've given up trying to reason with these types. They won't get help. LOL

  • @kathleenwalker8842
    @kathleenwalker8842 Рік тому +38

    Thank you so much for posting this video. This hits very close to home for me. My grandparents were children in Oklahoma during this time. Both sides of their families lived in Oklahoma during these horrible events. It's awful that people can be so evil and greedy.😢

    • @fxxnxx2775
      @fxxnxx2775 Рік тому

      What people? What was their race? Why was the Osage people so trustworthy of these people? Did they hate themselves?
      This is a very powerful teaching tool

    • @WynnWynn-gl3fk
      @WynnWynn-gl3fk Рік тому +1

      It was males who did this, not women. Most males are evil.

    • @tiahnarodriguez3809
      @tiahnarodriguez3809 Рік тому +1

      @@fxxnxx2775 The Osage were deemed incompetent due to their race, so a court made it mandatory for each Osage that would make money off of selling their share of oil to have a court-appointed guardian manage their money, so they had no choice in the matter.

  • @tracymm919
    @tracymm919 Рік тому

    Thanks!

  • @louisehoff9467
    @louisehoff9467 Рік тому +12

    When I heard about this story I could not read the book because it is so very tragic. Thank you for your report.

  • @tomdow2834
    @tomdow2834 Рік тому +86

    I saw the movie and it’s fantastic and heartbreaking at the same time. When you think about it, the Indians roamed the plains, and the white man came in there and destroyed. Everything killed all the buffalo killed them too. Then they find oil on this group of Indians land and they go down there and try to steal all that too and when they couldn’t steal it, they tried to kill everyone off. Greed is an awful sin. Imagine everyone being killed suspiciously and when you go to the police they’re involved to and when you try to go over their head, they are also involved. What a helpless feeling. I’m glad the story was told. I had never heard of it before.

    • @a.stewart2641
      @a.stewart2641 Рік тому +8

      Not much has changed. Greed still rules.

    • @karibeckman2408
      @karibeckman2408 Рік тому +1

      iLM Indians lives matter but other cultures are soaking up all the extra attention 😢I fill for my Cherokee ancestors all ancestors black, brown and even white had to endure awful times cause of a few evil men who lied just to have followers

    • @WynnWynn-gl3fk
      @WynnWynn-gl3fk Рік тому

      There are more buffalos then native Americans

    • @debbylou5729
      @debbylou5729 Рік тому

      You mean on the land that the Indians stole from the people before them?

    • @rayerscarpensael2300
      @rayerscarpensael2300 10 місяців тому

      Indians did not roam the plains as they had no horse the white man brought them.

  • @sherrismith8874
    @sherrismith8874 Рік тому +9

    I have been thinking about what an excellent idea it is to have a channel dedicated to a decade. There are nearly ENDLESS topics that can be explored related to the chosen decade. Such a smart, fascinating idea!

  • @masercot
    @masercot Рік тому +3

    One of my relatives lived with the Osage after the forced march across the midwest. When he finally got to the Wyandotte reservation, all the land had been allotted. Fortunately, an old woman found she had more land than she could use and she gave him some of that.

  • @andreawatson3854
    @andreawatson3854 Рік тому +163

    William Vaughan was my Great Grandfather. Horrific story. My grandfather was raised by the Osage community after his fathers murder.

  • @ginagarcia1934
    @ginagarcia1934 Рік тому +96

    My grandmother HATES the term Native American. My grandmother says we are 1st people. She also says you never trust the government. She hasn't been wrong so far

    • @knife-wieldingspidergod5059
      @knife-wieldingspidergod5059 Рік тому +3

      How does she feel about the term "indigenous people"?

    • @ginagarcia1934
      @ginagarcia1934 Рік тому +8

      @@knife-wieldingspidergod5059 hahahaha...she says it's a fancy word for native.

    • @misterbobby8913
      @misterbobby8913 Рік тому +3

      ​@@ginagarcia1934I don't get it, so what word/term would she like?

    • @tiahnarodriguez3809
      @tiahnarodriguez3809 Рік тому +11

      @@misterbobby8913 Op said their grandma prefers “1st people”, but this is a personal preference because used terminology is “Native American” or “indigenous person”. It’s like how the correct term for me is “African American”, but most of us refer to ourselves as “Black”. Just use the used terminology, but if someone requests you use their label, use it.

    • @ahabgaddis7277
      @ahabgaddis7277 11 місяців тому

      didnt get 1st in the war with european settlers/conquerers so that name doesn't fit

  • @daguard411
    @daguard411 3 роки тому +14

    Thank You as this episode is out of the norm for this channel, and it was so well done. Again, Thank You.

  • @RainbowRenegade
    @RainbowRenegade Рік тому +1

    Omg i saw the intro and I'm in love this channel already!

  • @christopherschafer7675
    @christopherschafer7675 3 роки тому +38

    The Osage murders were covered in a segment of the 1959 Jimmy Stewart movie 'The FBI Story'. Being a Warner Brothers film directed by Mervyn LeRoy no attempt to be accurate was made.

  • @ranger-1214
    @ranger-1214 Рік тому +21

    I grew up in Fairfax in the 50's and 60's so knew this story well. Also know some of the physical locations where murders were committed. When I was 12 we moved from out beyond Gray Horse (sometimes spelled Greyhorse) into town, just a block from where in 1923 the Smith home was dynamited. Our friends, and best friends, were Osages. There was still a little headright money coming in to those families, depending on if their lineage had been collected, or maybe diluted, through the years of marriages and births, etc. The original allottees' headrights were split through the years; no new headrights - just the original and their descendants. Much of this money, plus insurance policies, was what the killers were seeking. Gray Horse is the seat of the Big Hill Clan and where I attended school until it closed in 1963 and we were then bused into Fairfax. Until graduating and moving away, we attended the annual tribal dances in Gray Horse almost every year. Fairfax was a bustling town then, with numerous and various stores, hotels, etc., but now is just a shell of itself. While it is great to be proud of Fairfax's prima ballerina Tallchief sisters, there is always this stain of the murders and those good friends who had many of their earlier family die of outright murder or just "suspicious circumstances." Word is the movie is about 3 hours and 46 minutes but it needs to be seen if what we hear of how Scorsese involved the tribe in its' making.

    • @nativechique7589
      @nativechique7589 Рік тому

      Wow you were right in the midst

    • @72CrossingRS
      @72CrossingRS Рік тому

      I'm sure if they investigated many things they would find financials belong to someone else completely.

  • @trevizolga
    @trevizolga Рік тому +17

    EXCELLENT video. Perfect breakdown of the facts presented in the book. I'm an Indigenous American woman and I plan on seeing the movie. I have the book and plan on reading it before seeing the movie and this video has helped me know the broad strokes so that I can get through the book.
    I gave the video a "Like" and have subscribed. I hope that your number of subscribers skyrocket due to the release of the movie and reinvigorated interest in the book. THANK YOU!!

  • @seraiahjames
    @seraiahjames 11 місяців тому

    Thank you for the story and research. Keep doing this to shed as much light and truth as you can 💚

  • @edwardf6229
    @edwardf6229 Рік тому +71

    I live in Lake County, CA where hundreds of Pomo Indians were massacred. It's great to see that a book and movie were produced about these murders. I saw the trailer a few days ago, and it's coming out in October 2023.

    • @mamaahu
      @mamaahu Рік тому

      I used to live in Mendocino and there was a young Pomo woman I knew who said her grandfather "was hunted for sport" in Fort Bragg (CA). My step-father's grandmother, Blue Sky", was kept in the attic in theri Ukiah house because the family was ashamed of her. .This was in the 1950's!!!!!!

  • @4Mr.Crowley2
    @4Mr.Crowley2 Рік тому +75

    Thank you for this excellent video! I am so interested in the Scorsese film (Leo plays Ernest Burkhart) and it has received some great reviews so far…this is such an important story and so many of us have never heard of this nightmare.

    • @KohalaLover
      @KohalaLover Рік тому +2

      Leo has cruel eyes, to me.

    • @MattyNelson-rs3ik
      @MattyNelson-rs3ik Рік тому

      Like so many never heard of BLACK WALL STREET, HOW MANY WERE KILLED.OVER A LIE.imagin bombs drop on your town,by the u.s.milatary..😮

  • @scarlettg6136
    @scarlettg6136 Рік тому +150

    Thank you for sharing this story. Greed is terrible, especially when the victims are helpless and exploited. I am sometimes so ashamed of our American past.

    • @shiwan45
      @shiwan45 Рік тому

      America is built on nothing but lies and the blood of people who wasn't the right color 😢PURE EVIL

    • @paulabrooks9316
      @paulabrooks9316 Рік тому +11

      Same with me. I’m from Oklahoma and never knew about this time in history. Country was founded on violence and greed. Oklahoma history hides these stories. So glad it is being brought to light.

    • @MattyNelson-rs3ik
      @MattyNelson-rs3ik Рік тому +2

      ​@@paulabrooks9316NO IT WAS FOUNDED FROM THE BEGINNING ON MURDER AND THIEFT..HOW CAN A FOUNDATION LIKE THAT STAND THE TEST OF TIME, BEFORE THE VERY GOD WHO CREATED THE LAWS .?

    • @MattyNelson-rs3ik
      @MattyNelson-rs3ik Рік тому +2

      ​@@paulabrooks9316NO IT WAS FOUNDED FROM THE BEGINNING ON MURDER AND THIEFT..HOW CAN A FOUNDATION LIKE THAT STAND THE TEST OF TIME, BEFORE THE VERY GOD WHO CREATED THE LAWS .?

    • @Ur2ez4me81
      @Ur2ez4me81 Рік тому +6

      What’s past is in the past. All we can do is try not repeat it…

  • @Deejah_mwikali
    @Deejah_mwikali Рік тому +2

    Watching this immediately after watching the martin scorcese movie 😢😢
    It's really really heartbreaking....i am now learning of this history for the first time.....i am Kenyan

  • @barbaradoucette6672
    @barbaradoucette6672 Рік тому +39

    This is such a moving story and extremely, extremely sad! What even sadder is native Americans still suffer to this day! We took everything from these people and left them on land that no one wanted. Greed is such a devil and it doesn’t take much for it to rise again. From a small child I always thought why are they so poor and live so badly. When I grew up I realized we took everything from these tribes and the government did nothing but told them to live on renovations through out the United States. I don’t like gambling but it’s a income that has helped many tribes to continue to grow! In many areas of the United States these tribes have many women go missing and our government doesn’t do anything to really help. This story really moved me and makes me angry that in all these years nothing hasn’t gotten any better !

  • @LisaBeeman-u5u
    @LisaBeeman-u5u Рік тому +168

    Another tragic story of abuse, murder and greed that has been hidden all this time. What kills me is when the narrator sais “ Molly was able to become an American citizen” she was born an American. So incredibly sad but at least this story is being told. Let’s hope Hollywood doesn’t romanticize it.

    • @magicdragondragon5560
      @magicdragondragon5560 Рік тому +8

      I am constantly ashamed of what us 'white folks' did to other peoples. These stories are very unsettl8ng forever

    • @theOlLineRebel
      @theOlLineRebel Рік тому

      @@magicdragondragon5560stop. It’s not just whites who do this. And 1 person or even a few is not a whole population. This is universal and not unique to whites and whites are NOT the only racists and certainly not the only cruel. This narrative is mostly to make Americans hate their own USA and thus to change what it is and was, in a bad way. Do not be lured by the leftists. And don’t throw the baby out with the bath water. If something was negative in the past, tweak that. Do not throw away all the greatness.

    • @donmacquarrie9161
      @donmacquarrie9161 Рік тому

      they will....like the titanic, or Ghandi, or patton, or hurt locker....

    • @marlons1
      @marlons1 Рік тому +16

      Just saw it they didn't it was heart wrenching. I hated Robert Deniro and Leonardo Di Caprio for 3 and a half hours. Great acting all around the cast was great. I'm glad this story was told so that America's real history is not forgotten.

    • @rienp824
      @rienp824 Рік тому +4

      ​@@magicdragondragon5560it's dog eat dog, winner take all. They'd have done it to us if they had the means.

  • @hellsapoppin2048
    @hellsapoppin2048 3 роки тому +65

    The Quapaw tribe are also part of the Osage, From Ottawa County, Oklahoma were abused for their mineral money from Lead and Zinc. The Quapaw agency was notorious for taking 1/2 of their allotment money from the minerals from their land each month. The Quapaw were robbed blind by the Indian Agents who got rich.

    • @redwater4778
      @redwater4778 2 роки тому +7

      %50 tax was once common. Paid by all corporations in America

    • @NiniM8154
      @NiniM8154 Рік тому +2

      Quapaw land was mined for the metals, and the land and water there now is too toxic to support life. There is a YT video on Picher, Oklahoma which is heartbreaking and maddening.

  • @stephriceman6528
    @stephriceman6528 Рік тому +1

    I read the book before I found this video. The video treats the book well. I do hope the movie does justice to the book, but as we all know, Hollywood usually rewrites every book they get their hands on. Usually to the detriment of the content. I do recommend the video as well as the book. Thank you for treating the book so well.

  • @kaylataylor5373
    @kaylataylor5373 Рік тому +79

    I am from Oklahoman. This horrific story was not taught in Oklahoma history classes.

    • @BR-re7oz
      @BR-re7oz Рік тому

      I'm glad to hear Oklahoma history classes stick to the truth then. They don't just teach disgusting anti-White blood libels designed to provide ideological justification to anti-White racial hatred and political campaigns to disenfranchise and dispossess White people in their own nations.

    • @dakotaridgek9
      @dakotaridgek9 Рік тому +12

      Of course.

    • @christhompson3750
      @christhompson3750 Рік тому +18

      It nor the riots in 1920s Tulsa. Nothing mentioned in the Oklahoma history books about any of these events.

    • @autumnamy4997
      @autumnamy4997 Рік тому +5

      Of course not.

    • @auralepiphanies4055
      @auralepiphanies4055 Рік тому +1

      Same.

  • @robertlannon8859
    @robertlannon8859 Рік тому +24

    I have know very little of this story since first seeing James Stewart film 'The FBI Story', glossed over briefly it was the seminal event bringing the FBI to existence, I thank Mr Grann for bringing yet another century on Oklahoma story to light..

    • @Bethaniji
      @Bethaniji Рік тому +1

      Speaking of the FBI...we need a good, true, accurate movie of how the CIA came into existence and how they become the American gestapo with no Congressional oversight.

    • @horseman888
      @horseman888 Рік тому

      Oklahoma has some history with the destruction of Black Wall St in Tulsa and now this. Good ol boys at their worse.The whole state was supposed to belong to Native Americans they took that away too.

  • @FawziaTung
    @FawziaTung Рік тому +38

    I happened to finish reading Killers of the Flower Moon on the day that the movie came out. So I simply had to rush to the theater! I assume you too have seen it by now. I think they did a great job portraying the human aspects and pushing away the massive amount of details that would have crowded the main plot.

    • @danthaman03
      @danthaman03 Рік тому

      Do you recommend the book?

    • @FawziaTung
      @FawziaTung Рік тому +2

      @@danthaman03 Yes, definitely.

    • @danthaman03
      @danthaman03 Рік тому +1

      @@FawziaTung thank you.
      I have heard the movie is great.

  • @heatherbritcher5190
    @heatherbritcher5190 6 місяців тому

    I bought this book from Book Of The Month. Just got it last month. It's next in line for me to read! Thank you for this video and shining light to the injustice.

  • @cjb1185
    @cjb1185 Рік тому +25

    Intended to skim this video. Ended up watching every second. Now I'm subscribed. You, sir are a talented narrator, and the content, tone and pace of this video is exemplary. Please never, ever use AI voiceovers. Creating good voice narrations is an art. Please keep that in your repertoire always; there will always be a place for it.

  • @Darren-sn4ki
    @Darren-sn4ki Рік тому +17

    I never ever heard this really happened so devastating and heartbreaking 💔

  • @cassiereroni
    @cassiereroni Рік тому +23

    There are so many stories about Native American mistreatment and abuse that need to see the light of day. There are so many stories that have been passed down in my family it would make your head spin. There is barely any Native American blood left in my family line but the stories remain. Some involve the entire tribe but there are individual stories as well. Most don't care or are not interested so they stay buried and forgotten.
    Edit: Also, there was no permanent border between the US and Canada until 1846. Before that, and for a number of years after, there were no Native Americans or Native Canadians. There were just Indians.

  • @kimmichaels899
    @kimmichaels899 Рік тому +4

    Sad what humans do to eachother, but are also capable of great compassion.

  • @willowwillow668
    @willowwillow668 2 роки тому +83

    My grandfather was a judge at 21 in kingfisher Oklahoma.
    His wealth was staggering and consisted of mineral rights. The entire history of this man sounds oddly suspicious considering.