The BEST Rifler Of All Time?
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- Опубліковано 28 тра 2024
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2016 coldzera was unreal. As a North American I got front row seats to him taking tournaments away from us constantly so I just wanted to make a vid to help people understand his elite power and best spots. He's got a top 5 resume for sure and genuinly could be considered the GOAT rifler.
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X-RAY OFF DEMO ANALYSIS
POV: Coldzera on Train vs Team Liquid & TSM
HLTV Match Page:
0:00 - Intro
1:20 - POV analysis
27:00 - Conclusion
Thumbnails by / daveydemeo
Editing by / stacksmo - Ігри
Click baiting my face there... I see what you did there ❗
my goat
GOATs don't deserve to be used in clickbaiting scams!! :D
Cold was definitely GOATed in his prime, it's a shame he's fallen off since
At least he carved his moment with the impact thus we can mention his name, still an amazing player.
Still one of the greatest to ever touch the game.
If coldzera had missed that awp shot on mirage they wouldn't have won their first major, also not winning the second one, then the CS:GO scene in brazil would be hella smaller and i probably wouldn't play it, thus not watching you. You may thank him for my subscription lol
thank u cold 🙏🏽
CS is in the blood of Brazilians....They are going to play it no matter what
@@shaolinsoccerisashittymovi7232 But having such a legendary story does help in boosting the popularity of the game
@@launders I personall don't like him, but this comment does say well as to why we should consider him a GOAT and respect his legacy and the impact he had on the scene
how does double jumping for cold, affect the second major?
31:11 Vince's casting here was incredible. The timing when he said "The Man, The Myth, The Beast" in sync with Cold dabbing his teammates.
Olofmeister in 2015 is up there.. But he was more than just a rifler. Possibly the most versatile player we've ever seen. He was a Hybrid, could entry, clutch well, great pistol player, could support, best lurker & etc. One of the Greatests ever for sure.
S1mple is the most versatile player ever
@@didrik901 what kid
nah falleN is the most versatile player, he can do what u say AND can also IGL and AWP
Shox was also capable of doing everything you mentioned.
@@didrik901 I said possibly. Peak Olof could do everything for you.
i think there are factors that you didnt mention that i feel contextualize niko's career
niko has always had to play on international rosters, and he has still been an unbelievable force on each of the teams he played on sometimes even regardless of how good the team was. he has had to work with a mixed bag of talent and speak a second language and fit in different systems throughout his career. one big criticism of niko that applies in the comparison to cold is his worrying amount of poor finals performances. while this doesn't exonerate those poor showings, i think its way more difficult for him to fall back on a system when hes playing with rosters of variable quality individually and tactically.
in contrast, cold's peak happened with three of the same players, all three of which are legendary names in each of their respective roles in their prime, and then three others who weren't as important to the team's success as any of the others, and two of which were fairly similar players anyway. he got to play in one system the entire time speaking in his native tongue.
add to all of this that niko has had to adapt to different metas and hes still finding ways to carry with a rifle in a style that is not as favorable as cold stats wise, but i think is more impactful. put cold in a system that isnt what they had in 2016-17 and you saw what happened. i can trust niko to get back to top 3 level no matter who he has to play with.
that’s fair but niko has played with plenty of unbelievable lineups in his career. international lineups are also easier to stack and clearly are extremely popular right now. at the time cold joined luminosity, he was the reason they won. short peak is a problem for him but he never played with decorated CS:GO players, he’s a big reason we talk about any of them
@@launders personally i would disagree, i feel like the only players niko has played with that hit fallen and fer's peaks are rain and maybe guardian, everyone else if u rly look at them didnt hit that level when they were with niko, even in the case of support i dont think anyone compares to taco
you are right that nikos lineups have been good throughout the years, but they werent consistently excellent like colds were, now some of tht might be cuz cold was just that good all the time and niko has had some drop off periods, but i do think sometimes it was his team and its very hard to maintain over that long of a period so i dont think it should take too much away from niko
cold is fs #2 rifler for me tho and he defo has great qualities i just prefer nikos
@@snooples I feel like Niko has been sick for a loooong time but not implemented and fitted into a team properly. He need to be sick AND click with teammates. It's unclear from an outsider if it's issues with him or with all teams around him. You and me can't say for sure.
S1mple is a good example, he could carry teams but if the team is not set up properly it doesn't work in the long run.
All of what you said just reiterates what Lau was getting at. Coldzera had a better peak than Niko.
@@snooples niko's lineups were all good, or potentially good, its just that niko igling ruined the lineups or him not liking a certain thing of it was the problem (talking post mousesports ofc, he couldnt do anything aobut that)
but niko is the best rifler of all time
i think the fact niko can always peform good in any team is the deciding factor
everyone boils it down to longevity which is part of my answer but the fact that niko can peform in defective teams is the key
cold after taco left was still good but not what he was in his prime, and when he went international (ofc niko's igling hurt him quite abit) he was quite bad
niko when ikgling with faze 2019 stil lput up numbers, and in g2 he hit his id say peak second half of 2021, ive never seen someone put up the numbers and impact he did that consistently and on the biggest stages, the closest is yekindar carrying the fuck out of liquid in groupstage of proleague season 16
i think niko is 1st but quite a margin to behonest
to be the best rfifler of all time you must peform even when ur team is shit
Would love a GuardiaN demo like this, dude was so fucking good for so long. Adapted through multiple AWP styles and meta shifts. Up there next to NiKo at the very top of the “should have a major under his belt” list. It really seems the current scene doesn’t always acknowledge his contribution even tho we all remember a GuardiaN flick…
Totally agree. The one gripe people have with him that is actually a fair criticism is the fact that his rifles and pistols weren't that great, but with the AWP he delivered every single time
JW no one talks about him rn
+1
The best rifler is clearly Hooxi
also the best awper aswell
Best pistol player too
Best shotgun player, too
do more videos like this where you tell the story of old players who were crazy good
You should do Scream before KQLY got busted and they made the rest of the team bench for a year (some of the most transformative changes in CSGO while they couldn't participate in major events, including scope walk speed) Scream and Kenny S on Verygames and Titan were some of my favorite matches before that happened.
I feel like scream might suck to analyse because his game is so aim reliant that most of the analyses might just come down to "he hit the 1 taps"
true i am down
@@launders bro that would be lit! Great times
Scream and KennyS was a good duo..
@@yomamaMTV you can quite literally say that exact thing about any player, theres always stuff to analyze from pros
Coldzera was one of the riflers of all time
I still remember coldzera almost running by himself through one Inferno Game, killing literally everyone and i felt players where scared which i never saw before in Pro Matches.
He had the craziest peek/stats back then, almost every Game. He was just a Monster.
been a long time fan of your casting, stumbled on your youtube channel, subbed, dinged the bell. currently binging. thank you for all the top tier insight and comfy analysis. keep fighting the good fight, man.
You probably won't do many videos about old CSGO, but a video about the old awpers, Guardian, Kennys, Fallen etc and how the AWP meta has changed since then. Especially Kenny falling off from GOAT status would be good.
Uppppppp
NiKos last major performance is something that wont ever be matched by rifle player
Press X to doubt
I would love to see some more old Demos here and there (Like some kind of "Retro episodes"). Its interesting to get reminded how the meta and game overall changed.
Plus see some old familiar heroes again is always great : )
I didn't get to watch this Era of cs except for highlights and mine docs. loved the commentary, analogies, and everything else about the video
The edit for Bobby was hilarious the uneducated
I comment to help statistics
this caught me off guard but this was great! definitely would like to see more older demos of previous legends
I love old demos, you should do more of them
i didn't watch a second of gameplay here , but i've listened to everything that you said and it was very enjoyable, thank you very much for your content !
You should do more demos from the past, this was very good :D
As a brazilian, it was a pleasure to watch this video, he's one of my favorites for sure.
i really like this idea of bringing an old demo to study
Hey Lau - love your videos.
Just had an idea: I think a mini-series on callouts that are named after players would be super interesting. Maybe answer some questions and do analysis on how the spot was played by said player, how it SHOULD be played, pros and cons of position, how situational/useful it is, etc.
Could be interesting... Thought of this while remembering cold jumping 4k on mirage and thinking, "how tf are you supposed to jump peak that" and when, etc. Get right on mirage, shroud on cache overpass, Edward, f0rest. Etc.
Ok goodnight sleep tight thanks for the videos man I really enjoy your take and your thoroughness with your content
Edit: wrote this before seeing the end of your video.... Again, I appreciate the thoroughness in your content
Love your videos Lau! Growing up watching watching Coldzera and that era of CS was a blessing.
I came into watching pro CS at a weird time, it was around the start of 2018, EVERYBODY was talking about how good SK was and how good Coldzera is but everytime i saw them play I never was impressed by them, Cold has some insane clips but I never felt GOAT Rifler impact while watching him play.
it felt like everyday in 2016 he had an impossible map but he really fell off after SK imploded
Coming from SA, where servers were hosted in Brazil primarily at the time (circa 2016 until around 2018 where valve added chilean servers), everyone, and I mean EVERYONE and their mother had their steam account named either 'something-zera', 'fer', or 'FalleN'. I am very much inclined to agree, except I always felt impressed by FalleN.
However time has given me some perspective, just like it happened (for me) with astralis, and I came to realize the team itself was impressive because they were one of the first teams to implement an actual system. And much like astralis after them, SK/LG defined the meta.
Also, looking back, cold feels akin to s1mple in that they'd do such crazy shit tht you'd grow accustomed to it. Even if pro play wasn't as polished as it is now, winning a 1vX against other pros at the highest level of play in a stage isn't easy, and coldzera was able to do that consistently.
back when i just started playin this game this dude was so damn great, strange how fast something can crumble
u can tell the age in these demos, UMPs and A4s, the good ol' days
Niko definitely deserves it imo. He might not have the hardware yet, or a #1 on the top 20; but his competition is Simple (probably the best AWPer ever), and the 2019 Astralis (probably the best roster of all time). He also has the cleanest shots since Scream and is definitely better than Scream.
lau, as cold have said, his performance is coming back. on faceit his stats are growing, i believe cold isn't going to be back at his prime, but carrying some matches i would love to see. its not that suddenly he doesnt know how to play the game, i really hope he can go back to 2018 cold, top10 hltv 1.15rating
You bringing chess into csgo is so cool. I think Fischer is really the best player you could compare Coldzera to just because of the duration of his prime. However let's take a second and take in how absurdly dominant Fischer was during his reign. For starters let's look at the US championships. Fischer played 8 and won all 8. After winning his 6th US championship Fischer went into a semi retirement. At this point in his life he had played more than 2000 games and won 94% of them. Imagine a single csgo player or even team that dominant. Imagine an entry fragger who won 94% of first blood aim duels. But wait it gets even more insane. After leaving the competitive chess scene for 2 years Fischer would return to the chess scene in dominant form during an invitational tournament placing second only to the current world champion at the time, Boris Spasky. From this tournament on Fischer won every single match and tournament that he completed until his death. Between 1969 and 1972 Fischer was unstoppable. The Soviets threw their top players at him in both blitz to no avail. Fischer took them in stride winning by margins of 4 and 5. During the 1971 candidates the Soviets compiled a dossier on Fischer in an effort to help GM Mark Taimanov overcome the american. Fischer promptly beat Taimanov 6-0. In game 2 when questioned about his winning move, Fischer replied he had read it in a Russian text. It appeared the victim had come more prepared than anyone could have expected. He won the next match in similar fashion. 6-0. His final candidates match was against former World Champion Tigran Petrosian. When questioned about Fischer Petrosian replied that he wasn't concerned. Fischer was no genius. Fischer proceeded to win the match 6 1/2 to 2 1/2, setting a winning streak of 20 in the process. By summer of 1972 Fischer was rated 125 elo points above the next highest rated player. He won the world chess championship the same year. Now just imagine for a second a force this unstoppable in pro CS.
Astralis era was pretty dominant, though not as dominant as Nip offline 87-0 streak
you should do a KennyS pov vod from the Titan era would be awesome
mou coming in clutch with the Bobby Fischer explanation.
Honestly coldzeras awp on CT sides was solid af. Wouldn’t call him an awper but probably the best second awp at the time.
I see why you said you'd give a knife to the person who guessed the next 5 players in the upcoming videos. Who the hell would have guessed we were going back to 2016 to watch one of the greats haha. Love the videos launders, keep it up man!
haha tricky by me
@@launders Also, I heard you were casting the grandfinals for the 2023 major. Is that true?
Coldzera is... insane. The cheer presence of this man in the server, is just unbelievably heavy.
You know what he is capable of, this is the biggest problem, you just know. He is a human playing a game, humans fail and games can always be lost, but goddamn... this is freaking COLDERA, THE MAN, THE MYTH, THE BEAST - and you're just a random GamersClub "pugger" lmao
Yeah, undeniably, one of the most insane rifflers of all time - for me, the absolute best.
It’s easy to forget the old dogs as time goes on, players and fans leave and join the scene. Niko is unbelievable, but he still can’t control the server the way Cold did, man.
Cringe
All the top players are awpers now because of the impact an awp has, cold had that impact with rifles.
@@angus5427 Cold was geat but he wasn't s1mple and ZywOo level.
I would love to see a video about fallen in his prime too!!
Man just needs to win some shit and get his confidence back
I 100% agree. Coldzera was on his own league at that time
Next Guardian 🙏
That's a nice way to ensure your safety in Rio
I’ll never forget watching coldzera play on the big stage. When he was on, which was most of the time, he was basically unstoppable/unkillable.
@Lau - wouldn’t you say the overall level was lower back then though?
GeT RiGhT was the first player to win back to back HLTV top 1 player of the year. (2013 and 2014)
Could we get a swag demo review? Never seen his play broken down
18:51- 21:17 Well said Launders.
Good stuff Lau
I hope you're all well :D
I saw title and for sure it had to be sunny
I'd love a video like this for kennyS. Back in 2015 when I was getting into cs, kennyS was THE guy. His name had so much weight to it. My brother would tell me about him as if he was a god amongst men. I got into cs after the AWP nerf and never got the experience peak kenny and that's such a shame. Same thing with GeT_RiGhT. I hear tales of it being unusual for him to lose a clutch and I just never got to experience it
hey lau can u do an analysis about jackz? for me personally his mechanics is one of the most unique in cs but for some reason he doesnt frag much even though his roles back in g2 are not that shit
Niko is the greatest rifler not just in csgo history but in counter strike history.
Honestly I think one reason why SK fell off which no one attributed to was the removal of Cobblestone. SK were an amazing cobblestone team and one of the best
Not really tbh, they were nuts on train too. They just fell off as others adapted.
can we bring back m4a4 meta :(
goat peak, goat rifle, goat major performer, just the goat
Why do I feel like electronic's starring a video in the near future?
I have always said coldzeras peak was the best rifler of all time. His peak is better than every other riflers peak. Dude was a beast
Old fnatic was amazing to watch
13:13 them hops
Ngl I thought it was abt tabsen,he’s underrated af
tsm is back!
Since i saw this a couple of times in ESL, is there a particular reason why players are going for an UMP? Any kind of position they want to play it or smth? I never really feel like "oh yes lets go for an UMP" and mostly prefer MP9/Mac10
Now one can match simple and zywoo except niko with a fck rifle, consistent for so many years, 4 top 5 Finishes without even many mvps and this 2021 Form def. Goat
Next video should be analysis of Get right
I was a big-time coldzera hater back in 2016-17 (I thought niko and s1mple were better, he was still top 3), and I think that the years beyond SK showed his inability to evolve his game to be more aggressive. Watching this vid did make me realize just how great he used to be.
I came down to say I would love to see a prime GeT_RiGhT demo and see he has the pinned comment lmao
hear me out
ok
only if you hear me out
think you could've shown the ace in OVERTIME against vp, i remember that happening so fast i didn't know how SK won that round
Best rifler ever for sure... GOAT
This feels like a voo take
Good video lil bro
thx big man
Obviously its xXN008514Y3R69_420Xx who carried my silver PUG with 27 kills
I thought the silhouette in the thumbnail was rain lol
god mode kennyS demos!
Where do you put Electronic
there was a tarik clip where he said this is what cold taught me and stewie
noobs always peak tarik could have planted but him and stewie just waited and the other 2 players peaked and died
*skips 2020 in the intro*
RESPECT BIG ERA!
I don’t think facing s1mple or ZyWoo nowadays is as scary as facing coldzera in 2016/2017. Maybe it’s because the game is in a whole different level and the style of play has changed dramatically, but it’s unarguable that coldzera was one of the scariest players to have against you on the server during that time.
Depends on the players and how they consider the players, even rn there are players who aren't afraid on taking on zywoo or simple
Probably because on a good day, a sh1ro, an ax1le, a NiKo, a Dev1ce (when he played), degster, yekindar, kscerato, monesy etc could all be at the same level as s1mple and zywoo in 2022.
in 2016, it was pretty much just coldzera, NiKo, and s1mple as top 1 contenders.
No other player on their good day could touch these guys because they were consistently god tier.
The meme was that coldzera and NiKo on their worst day would still be the best players in the world.
s1mple was probably 2nd or 3rd best in the world that year and cold had a .08 higher rating which is the difference between a NiKo and a s1mple rating wise in today's climate granted using a different rating (2.0 vs 1.0) but its still substantial so that goes to show how far ahead of everyone else coldzera was in 2016, when the 3rd of 2nd best player was 0.08 rated lower than the best. its a big difference. I would have has s1mple as 2nd that year though if we factor achievements and carrying.
If you watch old games, you hear casters talk about "that feeling when cold is the last alive" and its like for any normal player the chance is 0 but since its cold it actually feels like it's gonna happen. There's only like 2 other players that had that feeling that year which was s1mple and niko. This year its pretty much anyone in the top 7 or top 5.
I don't know, I think players nowaday are a lot better than before I think. I players like yekindar are better than prime coldzera. I think for s1mple and zywhoo it's not even close.
I remember a semphis interview of his feelings playing both of them on a consistent basis, remember we had ESEA and ESL pro pleague played online that had teams play many matches in a short amount of time, so he had a good underestanding of both of them. He said that cold was really anoying to play against as you felt you couldn't kill him as the system was made totally for him with flashes, HE, mollys and the structure, he felt that he was untouchable and with s1mple you just knew he was coming but if you didnt beat him in his own game, you were dead. They were totally opposite basically, s1mple was ultra agresive god among people and the other was an ultra consistent killer from the back of the pack
Goat rifler is simple as well as goat awper as well as goat player
If you think about the HLTV top players s1mple is the first one to bring the awp to the top 1 in 2018 and has shifted the paradigm of a team (alonside dev1ce) as to what a focal point on a team can be.
Before cold both get_r1ght and olof were pure exclusive riflers, cold was the first true hybrid. I would rank him higher and give him that merit more than rifling alone. Still for me he was the best player on a very weak era and went downhill really fast, that puts his case on a weak spot as in 2017 you cuould argue that both device and s1mple were on a raw perspective maybe better.
Olof was the first hybrid player to be hltv top1....in some maps he even played as t side main awper over JW(most probably cache or overpass)
No one except get_right was a pure rifler who were in hltv top 1
god i love cs
I remember I used to play Ivy all the time in matchmaking, I guess I was the team's best player :D
Hey, i was wondering whether you could start a series wherein you analyse team demos of historic maps. For example: Faze's Inferno against Cloud9 in the Boston major. Love your content and get to learn so much for you!
Jay-z finna b shook when he catches this vid. all press is good press for lau
The players current team logo really threw me off for a second.
Bobby Fischer of CS:GO!
intro music plz ?
I feel like we can just call Niko the GOAT on the AK, Cold the GOAT on the M4, and valve the GOAT for making the a1s OP as fuck.
wait this isn't a Hooxi video?
Ax1Le is gonna be the best rifler because of his consistency
f0rest and Mr. GeT_RiGhT himself are the best riflers of all time
What about olofmeister? I remember fnatic being dominant for a long time
everybody knows it's HeatoN
Get_Right video when?
imagine NiKo if he had 2017 fer to open rounds for him.
i just dont get why player refuse to reload when they are not under pressure cold lost one clutch at 16 min and he could have reloaded and potentially hit the spray transfer
I'd say the eye test is not on cold's side
Since Niko is far more impressive when u look his pov and almost always has been
What I would give to cold is that u felt he was in the server every time, people were afraid of cold
For me I love electronic
Ohnepixel🗿
Ay yo Launders. What is shipping a shirt from BOXR to germany gonna cost me?
i’m not sure but shipping to europe will be a bit cheaper than usual!
@@launders Thanks gee