@@rodrigomeneses6074 that is wrong coldzera had a HLTV rating in his two peak years 2016 and 2017 of 1.24 and 1.25, respectively. ZywOo and S1mple had peaks of above 1.30
@@misha-fu4fs I definitely feel electronic beats out coldzera 90% of the time , both suffer consistency issues although electronic really cleaned up his act by like 2020-2021
@@chrlzcsyes because surely one of the best and most knowledgable analysts in the scene doesnt know CS just cause they disagree with your (wrong) opinion
how did electronic not get mentioned in best rifle player, 5 years as basically 2nd best rifle player. only people who beat him in hltv was basically niko or awpers.
@@arma9150 idk, I dont have the stats in mind but I think perfecto drops the ball a lot more than some of these other players (aside from the legacy ones before 2018)
Man I miss coldzera so much. In his prime it felt like he can win every single duel from any position. For me he still belongs to top 5 players in csgo all time (with s1mple, niko, device and zywoo)
Watching that era of sk/luminosity was a real treat tbh. They had the perfect mix of tactics and aim, and when Cold and Fallen would double awp it was quite a spectacle!
coldzera fried his brain with drugs and alchohol. he kept posting himself blacking out online. his era probably wouldnt have ended if he didnt make poor choices.
This just shows how stacked the prime Astralis lineup was. Top 3 awper, top 2 entry (probably also best entry when we are talking about hard entries), top 1/2 igl, top 1 clutch (and or support player) and on top of that another legendary rifler who was top 3-5 rifler at that time.
also that Faze roster that was 1 round short of a Major, although not all of them was in their prime but that roster was so dominant when they were first formed
@juniorgalacto17 yes but only as a guy that deserved a major win, not as the greatest awp, and he is the best/2nd best awper of all time if you are looking at what he is able to do at his best with awp only, but s1mple, device, zywoo are just more complete players, even tho guardian was extremely good with rifles and the deagle as well, but he was never on their level, but i agree that he deserved a bigger mention, but other than that a pretty spot on list.
Glaive as best IGL, Device in the top 3 AWPs, Xyp as best clutcher, Dupreeh in the talks for best entry. I'm wondering if a team with all of them could be succesfull.
Always enjoyable watching your insight on the pro scene! I didn’t watch much of the early scene but I’m curious where you think Ropz stands in terms of clutching? I find he is always closing out 1vX situations and during the most important rounds and the highest events.
really great but i personally think even on faze broky is a better clutch player (both insane) i think in the modern era, players like cadian, zywoo, s1mple etc stand out for sure a lot but no one really has the reputation today for specifically clutching like xyp9x, flusha, shox, gtr back in the day
@@laundersCadian is usually above average and then suddenly gets extreme highlight plays in clutches, so I think he's decently regarded like those players back then. Unfortunately his clutches haven't led to enough actual map wins in major tourneys
What about Fallen and Guardian as honorable mentions in the AWP category? Both were insane during their primes, and in the case of Fallen - I think everyone from your top 3 (s1mple, dev1ce and Zywoo) said that they were watching his demoes at some point.
ye if qe are talking purely awping and not regarding anything else because although guardian was fantastic even without the awp, his competition are device, zywoo and s1mple, imo guardian is the 4th best awp of all time and if ur talking purely awping then he is the 2nd right before kenny, followed up by simple/oscar
Finally someone Appreciating Godp9x. I personally think the whole BlameF to Lurk in Astralis since 2021, people have forgotten How terrifying this guy was. In fact, s1mple once said in Blast Interview Xyp9x is one player he hates playing against cause he wins so many 1vX. Also yes, shout out to God of Lurk GTR. That man also deserves love.
Instant sub from me with this vid! Im a fan of your casting but I love discussions like this. I think all your picks are great and it’s interesting to hear about some of your opinions. Great job!
I don’t usually comment but man do I enjoy your videos, they have the right amount of humour mixed with good content, and the nostalgia of older cs clips certainly helps too haha
wanted a honorable mention for f0rest, he was one of the best riflers for over 10 years straight going from 1.6 to csgo, his longevity is still unrivaled and frankly I don't think anyone will beat him in that aspect, ever.
fr, but like its hard to remember everyone, but ur right i feel like cadian is probably one of the best if not the best to clutch insane clutches like 1v4/1v5s
definitely cadian these past couple years has had some amazing clutches. i guess they’ve been recent enough i haven’t considered him all time but he’s getting close
Ropz not getting a mention is madness to me, this kid has been here as long as i remember and has only gotten better and better to make you reconsider if either Ropz or Nik0 is the best rifler in the game.
Niko is an insane player. His consistency is just unbelievable. Gotta wonder tho why it's just not clicking for his teams since the og faze lineup. So many good rosters and just no consistent success.
Get Right and Zywoo totally deserve to be mentioned. I don't think I have to explain about Get Right anymore. While Zywoo's playstyle doesn't revolve around aggressiveness and insane reaction shots like KennyS and s1mple, he almost never miss when holding an angle. Although he can make it up with great AK spray control, to be fair, his AWPing ability on T side should be put into question as his flicks are less reliable than that of s1mple or KennyS's. But all things considered, maybe his playstyle isn't as flashy and impactful as other AWPers on the list, I still think he deserves an honorable mention.
I do believe perfecto could be a shout for the best clutch player ever in the next 5 years, always when I tune into to a navii game it’s always perfecto clutching
He is the best clutcher imo. Only Xyp has an argument over him. Since his debut in t1 he's literally leading 1vx by like 40 more clutches than anyone else. It's insane.
I have a question: about the entry fragging role, I used to do these cs online classes called Games Academy, wich is fallen's thing back from 2010, and back then they used to teach that the entry role two main functions were taking map space and getting info as quick as possible, and the main skill from that role was more tactical related than actual "skill". Do you thing these concepts are now old, or is that something to consider?
BTW, Godsent do still play. They have a full swedish team (lineup not yet revelead) that is said to focus heavily on CS2. GOAT HeatoN is a part of the staff and is pushing the team hard. Young Gods (their academy team) is featuring Mail09 which is probably one of the most impressive CS talents that we have seen in 10 years. I think that Godsent will be back in the top 10 in 2024.
electronic is number 2 for rifler for me, he's been a top 7 player every year since he came into tier 1 and has the caveat of taking up IGL in the year he missed
The only player not mentioned on Astralis was Magisk and it was not because he was bad but rather there are so many good players who rifled. AKA proof that 2018-Covid Astralis is by far the Greatest of All Time
Very good video, but i think you´re confusing open fragger and entry fragger open fragger = what you described in the video, getting the opens entry fragger = doesnt need to have opens, but when the site is being pushed by the team he is generally the first one in creating space
that’s true but normally the distinction is between tside and ct side. 1st kill isn’t really helpful so colloquially we’ve always said entry for t side and opening kill for ct (or referencing the opk% agnostically)
For me getting first picks is a natural part of the AWPer, but I wouldn't list them as Entry Fraggers, but reserve this for people who are good at entrying without an AWP.
I don’t really accredit entry fragger equal to CT side opening kills. Perhaps thats just wrong on my end, but to me an entry fragger is someone who runs in first to a bombsite, clicks heads and tries to make space
not even mentioned electronic in the rfiler list idk about that one, and the best clutcher the last 2 to 3 years is perfecto. Other than that its a very good list!
gla1ve is like the Pep Guardiola of the cs:go scene. He has won many titles, but its difficult to process whether it is because of the team he's managing or if its just his talent. Guardiola won many titles with Barcelona at their prime golden age with an incredible team. Pretty much anyone could arguebly have achieved the same result managing that team. Now he's managing Manchester City, one of the richest teams in the world and with another amazing team at his disposal. Gla1ve came into a team with an already established lineup and have yet to prove his skill in another team as the IGL. You can even argue that its Zonic that was the key to his success in Astralis, since after he left they dipped hard and he has since won a major with Vitality. Karrigan on the other hand made the team that later became Astralis, managed to take mousesports to an incredible heights as the underdogs in the scene and even won titles(and a major) in FaZe. Honestly, I think Karrigan has proven more than gla1ve have in terms of being an IGL. If I made a Denmark team for a CS:GO World Cup, I'd have Karrigan or cadiaN as the team captain, not gla1ve.
@@anirudhsubramanian5578 If you actually read what I said, you'd realize your comment is moronic. Karrigan has proven himself capable of leading several different teams, while gla1ve hasn't. A world cup wouldn't be based of just 1 team, it'd be 6-7 different and new players. So the one who has the most experience leading different teams and bringing random players together would be a better choice. Do you get it now, or do you want me to spell it out for you?
@@srensen3081 It was cajunb that choked every single event and when gla1ve has been a captain for another team and won anything, you can come back and tell me "I told you so" and I'll give it you, but that will never happen 👍
@@Allexstrasza cant tell me cajunb is the reason the entire team looked like it fell apart every time they reached semis, cajunb being a choker wouldnt make all of them play as shit as they did when reaching semis
Lots of great players on the list and easy to forget some of them whom weren’t mentioned, like Shox and Scream but also like f0rest and Guardian, NBK was also amazing back in the days so it was a great list but damn it’s hard to remember sometimes all the great guys until you sit down and think about it (big shoutout tho to having some old clips with Fifflaren, Devilwalk and Pronax)
That last twistzz clip is fucking crazy. It's from the streamer league. All the players on that team are high level players, some in the top of CS, probably 4k average elo. They're still average joes compared to T1 players but it just illustrates how insanely high the skill ceiling is in CS. That the top, top, top 1% are still world apart from ELITE level players like him.
As a shoutout for entry, I'd definitely include XANTARES. Dude's been stuck on Turkish teams for his entire career but his stint on BIG during the covid era had wild stats.
that's insane for sure but that's because of his tap/burst playstyle, which you won't find any pro player today doing the same because it's simply not the most consistent/optimal way of getting kills
My Team: Entry - Stewie IGL - FalleN AWP - M0nesy (s1mple too cocky, Kenny too inconsistent but I love him and I personally don't like Zywoo or Dev1ce) Clutch - Swag Rifler - Niko opinions highly appriciated x)
The reasoning is kind of inconsistent. By Niko you made the point that he played so well on different teams and over such a long time. But then you pick Glave over Karrigan, despite Glave “only” had success with basically one line-up and one time interval. Karrigan build multiple teams and is on the top for longer.
The most versatile player ever I've ever seen in Olofmeister in 2015. He's like the ultimate glue man. Literally was lurking, entrying, anchoring, great utility, one of the best secondary awpers (Sometimes AWPs over JW in certain maps). Just the perfect package. Was doing all this while being the best player in the world. His game was incredible to watch. He would make any all time team better with what he brought.
yeah i just made the same comment, he should have included a category of "versatil players", the best i have ever seen in that regard is certainly Zywoo , he might not be the best in any of those categories, best he is good in all of them imo, I started watching pro cs just recently so i dont know much about olofmeister..
@@logoanimation4489 I didn’t include the likes of ZywOo and s1mple because their an anomaly and have integrated themselves into star roles. It’s just pretty unique to have a player like Olofmeister who played in multiple roles and ended becoming the #1 player in the world. A legendary feat.
the #1s are the same as how I would have them Niko, s1mple, Gla1ve and Xyp goats of their positions. I think Electronic before he took on IGL was the only one close to Niko
Kinda suprised Hunter got no mentions anywhere - granted he hasn't been around as long as NiKo, but he's probably one of the best in class "supportive riflers," he plays on a team with NiKo and Monesy and sometimes still outfrags them while playing worse positions. I think if G2 didn't have Niko that hunter would be able to fill his shoes.
IGL: Glaive, karrigan, pronax Awp: simple zywoo device guardian kenny jw Clutch Xyp, flusha, get right, shox gotta be there and snax Rifler: Niko, cold, Olof, elige Pistols: niko, dennis Only thing detracts from KennyS imo is it was pre awp nerf
I think skipping Support was fine but you should have done best anchor players. But i guess Astralis winning 3 and having 2 other players as 2nd best would have been too insane :D
@@srensen3081 Well, "basically inventing" something is equivalent to setting a new standard or reinventing something. This is why Edison basically invented the lightbulb and Ford basically invented the automobile industry despite neither being the original progenitor. Their improvements on the design and manufacturing process were simply too revolutionary. This is all semantics though. Magisk is the 🧱. This we know. And tanks always lose to walls. That's why Germany had to go through Belgium and bypass the Maginot Line, pincering Allied forces in Belgium with a blitzkrieg through the Ardennes.
I feel like, you should have included a special category for zywoo, cuz yes he is probably not the best in any of those categories, but he is so good in all of that, he can rifle,awp, clutch,entry with any weapon and he is even helping with some calls in 2023 according to apex lmao, for me he is the most versatile player i have ever seen.
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It's insane that NiKo is competing statwise with s1mple and zywoo despite being rifler and entry fragger. There is no other rifler who can do that.
coldzera in his peak, surpassed any awper with his stats.
@@rodrigomeneses6074carried by fallen look where his is now
@@rodrigomeneses6074 that is wrong coldzera had a HLTV rating in his two peak years 2016 and 2017 of 1.24 and 1.25, respectively. ZywOo and S1mple had peaks of above 1.30
@@Augenhose niko doesn't has 1.30 plus stats as well.
how is he entry fragger? ive seen him being the last man standing most of the time. baiter
Niko has the smoothest crosshair movement even his flicks are so smooth but his ch placement is what made him the best rifler of all time
@@jdog339I'm not convinced about that at all but who knows, love your arguments though!
@@jdog339 great points! keep em up
@@jdog339 quit wafflin
@@jdog339really solid points you made, like most zywoo fans! Gotta give it to you, convinced me.
@@HaasTheFirst wow wow wow ! chill out with the "most zywoo fans" big boy! never go full retard!
i didn’t do support players but it was AMANEK over SANJI
best entry no yekindar mention from launders ?
@@rav3n617because he wasnt even close
No it wasn’t, prime coldzera was the only support player to be BITW. I think that was a obvious choice.
would you say SANJI is the 2nd best? Shame he isn't playing anymore
No xyp!???
I like every nomination,but I was surprised that Shox wasn't mentioned in that conversation. He was such a clutcher
honestly forgot, had too many players to remember. he had the most clutches for a long time if not still
@@launders Agreed, was surprised not to see him, i think he have the 2nd most clutches of all time behind xyp
@@laundersfeel like electronic should be mentioned in the rifles section too
@@misha-fu4fs I definitely feel electronic beats out coldzera 90% of the time , both suffer consistency issues although electronic really cleaned up his act by like 2020-2021
@@BenjaminEspagneTied at 822 1vX won. He was ahead of Xyp when he left Apeks
Wow, can’t wait to see reformed launders put karrigan as the best in the IGL role. Looking forward to this one!
wtf
@@zackkhan1199fraunders doesn’t know cs unfortunately
@@chrlzcsyes because surely one of the best and most knowledgable analysts in the scene doesnt know CS just cause they disagree with your (wrong) opinion
cope
Cope karrigan silver bot XD.
niko has to be the most consistent player, not just rifler, of csgo. the guy has been so insanely consistent for 8+ years
He didn't mention the GOAT awper: rain. not a single miss by rain on the awp... 100% accuracy.
You need to hit a shot to be at 100 percent if you have never fired a rifle you won’t be at 100% accuracy you will be at 0%
how did electronic not get mentioned in best rifle player, 5 years as basically 2nd best rifle player. only people who beat him in hltv was basically niko or awpers.
he also forgot perfecto in clutch player , he atleast deserve to get mentioned
I think ropz could also be mentioned as a rifler. Definitely not number one, but definitely top 5.
@@arma9150 idk, I dont have the stats in mind but I think perfecto drops the ball a lot more than some of these other players (aside from the legacy ones before 2018)
Best right hand man : electroNic😊
@@arma9150navi fan mad after perfecto isn't given the title of best clutch player
Man I miss coldzera so much. In his prime it felt like he can win every single duel from any position. For me he still belongs to top 5 players in csgo all time (with s1mple, niko, device and zywoo)
Watching that era of sk/luminosity was a real treat tbh. They had the perfect mix of tactics and aim, and when Cold and Fallen would double awp it was quite a spectacle!
Ok coldzer0 b0t
The only player (Except the goat) to get 2 major MVPs too
he had a crazy time where it felt like he could never lose a clutch. im surprised launders never mentioned him in that segment
coldzera fried his brain with drugs and alchohol. he kept posting himself blacking out online. his era probably wouldnt have ended if he didnt make poor choices.
This just shows how stacked the prime Astralis lineup was. Top 3 awper, top 2 entry (probably also best entry when we are talking about hard entries), top 1/2 igl, top 1 clutch (and or support player) and on top of that another legendary rifler who was top 3-5 rifler at that time.
also that Faze roster that was 1 round short of a Major, although not all of them was in their prime but that roster was so dominant when they were first formed
The thing about NiKo is that he is a great rifler AND also extremely intelligent; So good at guessing where the enemy is and where to preaim.
Amazing List
But not a single mention about
Guardian as a AWPER
Electronic as a RIFLER
Shox as a CLUTCHER (he has most 1 v x clutches in the history)
He mentioned Guardian
@juniorgalacto17 yes but only as a guy that deserved a major win, not as the greatest awp, and he is the best/2nd best awper of all time if you are looking at what he is able to do at his best with awp only, but s1mple, device, zywoo are just more complete players, even tho guardian was extremely good with rifles and the deagle as well, but he was never on their level, but i agree that he deserved a bigger mention, but other than that a pretty spot on list.
Shox is beaten by Spiidi and in the top 30, rainwaker has a higher % of 1vx clutches per round.
@@ImOnlyHereForTheZipline say that you are 14 without saying that you are 14
Hahahaaa
I am loving the love for Niko while leeping it real with the elite awpers being great riflers as well
Entry: Broky
IGL: Broky
AWP: Broky
Clutch: Broky
Rifler: Broky
Support: Broky
Coach: Broky
Analyst: Broky
Second entry: Broky
Second AWP: Broky
So easy for GOATKY
ropz clears broky
Glaive as best IGL, Device in the top 3 AWPs, Xyp as best clutcher, Dupreeh in the talks for best entry. I'm wondering if a team with all of them could be succesfull.
Don t forget shox in clutch
Always enjoyable watching your insight on the pro scene! I didn’t watch much of the early scene but I’m curious where you think Ropz stands in terms of clutching? I find he is always closing out 1vX situations and during the most important rounds and the highest events.
really great but i personally think even on faze broky is a better clutch player (both insane)
i think in the modern era, players like cadian, zywoo, s1mple etc stand out for sure a lot but no one really has the reputation today for specifically clutching like xyp9x, flusha, shox, gtr back in the day
@@laundersCadian is usually above average and then suddenly gets extreme highlight plays in clutches, so I think he's decently regarded like those players back then. Unfortunately his clutches haven't led to enough actual map wins in major tourneys
@@launders ah okay makes sense! Thanks!
@@laundersfr dude, when I see broky left in a clutch against my fav team that shit makes me nervous, same feeling against players like cadian too
@@squatCS they arent "clutchers" they are just always scary, not only in clutches, thats why they dont have the reputation of a "clutcher"
Nothing made me more happy than when you gave pronax his flowers. Some of the newer fans never got to saw this mans mid round magic
What about Fallen and Guardian as honorable mentions in the AWP category? Both were insane during their primes, and in the case of Fallen - I think everyone from your top 3 (s1mple, dev1ce and Zywoo) said that they were watching his demoes at some point.
Ropz deserves an honourable mention for riflers too. Otherwise , the list is perfect.
Ong
add in electronic over coldzera and 100% with you
not mentioning shox for clutches is a crime
Couple of names I think deserved a mention:-
Shox & ZywOo (Clutch)
Guardian & JW (AWP)
Get Right, f0rest, & Electronic (Riflers)
f0rest for sure imo
am by no means a biased nip fan
i knew niko would make it on this list more than once. the real goat in my eyes
Agree
You cant be a goat if you cant win a major. He’s definitely top 5 of all time.
I really liked the video but I think the entry fragger category should have more impact on the T-side. CT-side entry is T dependent
So happy to see you mention pronax as top 3 igl it seems like people have forgotten him even tho he won 3 majors.
Spot on! NiKo deserves that #1 spot and a Major in CS2
I think GuardiaN deserves mention too. More top 20 more major finals (but he didnt win any)....
ye if qe are talking purely awping and not regarding anything else because although guardian was fantastic even without the awp, his competition are device, zywoo and s1mple, imo guardian is the 4th best awp of all time and if ur talking purely awping then he is the 2nd right before kenny, followed up by simple/oscar
@@zezanje1 oscar is a fraud, he is named tomas irl
@@srensen3081 nah no fucking way why would he just use another regular name as his nick lmao
Clutchminister that was insane cs, when he was clutching everyone would expect some crazy cs go play. Miss those times.
1. best entry:-dupreeh
2.awp:-s1mple
3.igl:-gla1ve
4.rifler:-coldzera.
5.clutch:-xyp9x.
Finally someone Appreciating Godp9x.
I personally think the whole BlameF to Lurk in Astralis since 2021, people have forgotten How terrifying this guy was. In fact, s1mple once said in Blast Interview Xyp9x is one player he hates playing against cause he wins so many 1vX.
Also yes, shout out to God of Lurk GTR. That man also deserves love.
Instant sub from me with this vid! Im a fan of your casting but I love discussions like this. I think all your picks are great and it’s interesting to hear about some of your opinions. Great job!
I could sit down for hours and listen you talk about cs, just never gets old
I don’t usually comment but man do I enjoy your videos, they have the right amount of humour mixed with good content, and the nostalgia of older cs clips certainly helps too haha
For me Zywoo is also top2-3 clutch player
i didn’t think about him specifically for this category but it’s facts..
@@launders And let's be honest, if he didn't have to AWP he would also contend for best rifler.
Only Xyp9x has an argument imo. And he's catching up already.
Love the twistzz shoutout. He’s my favorite player cause he really seems like the perfect teammate as well as being a mechanical god
ngl that highlight was hot
That iconic fnatic bit at 7:50 still makes me laugh I wonder what convinced them to make that
in NA matchmaking, it's me for all of my matches
wanted a honorable mention for f0rest, he was one of the best riflers for over 10 years straight going from 1.6 to csgo, his longevity is still unrivaled and frankly I don't think anyone will beat him in that aspect, ever.
i didn’t include 1.6 and GTR was better overall! i think i’d have to include more riflers if i said forest
@@launders that's fair, it's a CSGO video after all, not CS in general
Thank you for mentioning Pronax, he was insane at his time
I just want prime xyp again. Watching the guy do work in a clutch was always exciting
The 1v5 defuse on nuke 😅
@@travisinsane N♿RTH fans all across the world just removing the team's logo from their respective accounts after that
cadian not getting a mention in clutches???
fr, but like its hard to remember everyone, but ur right i feel like cadian is probably one of the best if not the best to clutch insane clutches like 1v4/1v5s
definitely cadian these past couple years has had some amazing clutches. i guess they’ve been recent enough i haven’t considered him all time but he’s getting close
Ropz not getting a mention is madness to me, this kid has been here as long as i remember and has only gotten better and better to make you reconsider if either Ropz or Nik0 is the best rifler in the game.
babe wake up (i'm schizophrenic there is no babe), new launders vid dropped
Niko is an insane player. His consistency is just unbelievable. Gotta wonder tho why it's just not clicking for his teams since the og faze lineup. So many good rosters and just no consistent success.
He had/has trash igls... Dude is insane but the teamplay is awful
@@FilipWizard Karrigan and aleksiB are trash? :D
@@HaasTheFirst u said since og faze lineup, that means aleksib and hooxi which are both not good imo
Get Right and Zywoo totally deserve to be mentioned.
I don't think I have to explain about Get Right anymore.
While Zywoo's playstyle doesn't revolve around aggressiveness and insane reaction shots like KennyS and s1mple, he almost never miss when holding an angle. Although he can make it up with great AK spray control, to be fair, his AWPing ability on T side should be put into question as his flicks are less reliable than that of s1mple or KennyS's. But all things considered, maybe his playstyle isn't as flashy and impactful as other AWPers on the list, I still think he deserves an honorable mention.
Zywoo is the player with the highest HLTV rating and impact rating vs TOP30 of all time. Next one is s1mple with .4 difference.
I do believe perfecto could be a shout for the best clutch player ever in the next 5 years, always when I tune into to a navii game it’s always perfecto clutching
I feel like Zywoo should have at least be mentionned for clutches
He is the best clutcher imo. Only Xyp has an argument over him. Since his debut in t1 he's literally leading 1vx by like 40 more clutches than anyone else. It's insane.
@@AstroSully shox?
@@srensen3081 Yeah Shox has aserious argument as well. Him and Xyp has crazy clutches and has most 1vX all time in tier 1 LAN.
Yeah only player to this date with 3 1v5 against TOP30, Ten 1v4 tied with s1mple. More than a 75% winrate in 1v1... thats just insane.
Bro you forgot shox for best clutch player. His stats were insane and I think he won even more 1vX situation than xyp for the time the both played
believe xyp overtook him in the astralis era, but up until that point he had the most clutches
have not actually fact checked this though
@@srensen3081 but shox overtook xyp again after astra's downfall
I have a question: about the entry fragging role, I used to do these cs online classes called Games Academy, wich is fallen's thing back from 2010, and back then they used to teach that the entry role two main functions were taking map space and getting info as quick as possible, and the main skill from that role was more tactical related than actual "skill". Do you thing these concepts are now old, or is that something to consider?
12:44 that GeT_RiGhT play is so interesting to watch
Then niko won cologne with absolutely insane performance. Goat rifler indeed
BTW, Godsent do still play. They have a full swedish team (lineup not yet revelead) that is said to focus heavily on CS2. GOAT HeatoN is a part of the staff and is pushing the team hard. Young Gods (their academy team) is featuring Mail09 which is probably one of the most impressive CS talents that we have seen in 10 years. I think that Godsent will be back in the top 10 in 2024.
electronic is number 2 for rifler for me, he's been a top 7 player every year since he came into tier 1 and has the caveat of taking up IGL in the year he missed
Idk if the stats back this but whenever I think of an entry I immediately think to JackZ
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!!!!! ty for the vids as usual man!!!
This is one of the best cs vids I’ve ever seen! Keep it up
glad to hear that! thanks mump
The only player not mentioned on Astralis was Magisk and it was not because he was bad but rather there are so many good players who rifled. AKA proof that 2018-Covid Astralis is by far the Greatest of All Time
Magisk was the missing piece for Astralis but its hard to put him in against Niko
@@DocYAYAYA exactly
Very good video, but i think you´re confusing open fragger and entry fragger
open fragger = what you described in the video, getting the opens
entry fragger = doesnt need to have opens, but when the site is being pushed by the team he is generally the first one in creating space
that’s true but normally the distinction is between tside and ct side. 1st kill isn’t really helpful so colloquially we’ve always said entry for t side and opening kill for ct (or referencing the opk% agnostically)
forehead xyp9x can't be beat
Also Dupreeh he is a 5 Major winner.
For me getting first picks is a natural part of the AWPer, but I wouldn't list them as Entry Fraggers, but reserve this for people who are good at entrying without an AWP.
Honestly, I think you are the only one guy who can show the pro players with 1.00/1.05 KD who have such a key role in their team and stats.
I don’t really accredit entry fragger equal to CT side opening kills. Perhaps thats just wrong on my end, but to me an entry fragger is someone who runs in first to a bombsite, clicks heads and tries to make space
Big ups for putting pronax in here, was so much fun watching him in the early era of CS!
not even mentioned electronic in the rfiler list idk about that one, and the best clutcher the last 2 to 3 years is perfecto. Other than that its a very good list!
gla1ve is like the Pep Guardiola of the cs:go scene. He has won many titles, but its difficult to process whether it is because of the team he's managing or if its just his talent. Guardiola won many titles with Barcelona at their prime golden age with an incredible team. Pretty much anyone could arguebly have achieved the same result managing that team. Now he's managing Manchester City, one of the richest teams in the world and with another amazing team at his disposal.
Gla1ve came into a team with an already established lineup and have yet to prove his skill in another team as the IGL. You can even argue that its Zonic that was the key to his success in Astralis, since after he left they dipped hard and he has since won a major with Vitality.
Karrigan on the other hand made the team that later became Astralis, managed to take mousesports to an incredible heights as the underdogs in the scene and even won titles(and a major) in FaZe. Honestly, I think Karrigan has proven more than gla1ve have in terms of being an IGL. If I made a Denmark team for a CS:GO World Cup, I'd have Karrigan or cadiaN as the team captain, not gla1ve.
karrigan also had the magical trio of device xyp dupreeh and managed to make them choke every single event
A World Cup a.k.a a major has glaive as a captain winning 4 of them and you'd use karrigan over him...okay
@@anirudhsubramanian5578 If you actually read what I said, you'd realize your comment is moronic. Karrigan has proven himself capable of leading several different teams, while gla1ve hasn't. A world cup wouldn't be based of just 1 team, it'd be 6-7 different and new players. So the one who has the most experience leading different teams and bringing random players together would be a better choice. Do you get it now, or do you want me to spell it out for you?
@@srensen3081 It was cajunb that choked every single event and when gla1ve has been a captain for another team and won anything, you can come back and tell me "I told you so" and I'll give it you, but that will never happen 👍
@@Allexstrasza cant tell me cajunb is the reason the entire team looked like it fell apart every time they reached semis, cajunb being a choker wouldnt make all of them play as shit as they did when reaching semis
Lots of great players on the list and easy to forget some of them whom weren’t mentioned, like Shox and Scream but also like f0rest and Guardian, NBK was also amazing back in the days so it was a great list but damn it’s hard to remember sometimes all the great guys until you sit down and think about it (big shoutout tho to having some old clips with Fifflaren, Devilwalk and Pronax)
Great video, 100% agree with every placing.
What watch is that? I believe its the rolex datejust, but I'm not sure about the bezel
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That last twistzz clip is fucking crazy. It's from the streamer league. All the players on that team are high level players, some in the top of CS, probably 4k average elo. They're still average joes compared to T1 players but it just illustrates how insanely high the skill ceiling is in CS. That the top, top, top 1% are still world apart from ELITE level players like him.
great video smiled all the way through good shit lau
happy to hear that :)
As a shoutout for entry, I'd definitely include XANTARES. Dude's been stuck on Turkish teams for his entire career but his stint on BIG during the covid era had wild stats.
Kinda sad to not see Ropz or Electronic here.
Shiro could also get a shout out for AWP. Not top 3 yet, but right up there.
The best rifler competition really is non-existent. Niko's peak and consistent form beat out cold
Ah man i would have loved an honorable mention for Guardian. Such a Legend aswell.
Special shoutout to Scream for having just a stupid hs%, his last map on hltv was in 2019 and in the last 4 years he still holds the #1 spot
that's insane for sure but that's because of his tap/burst playstyle, which you won't find any pro player today doing the same because it's simply not the most consistent/optimal way of getting kills
My Team:
Entry - Stewie
IGL - FalleN
AWP - M0nesy (s1mple too cocky, Kenny too inconsistent but I love him and I personally don't like Zywoo or Dev1ce)
Clutch - Swag
Rifler - Niko
opinions highly appriciated x)
probably just my favourite cs players of all time with kenny and tarik xdd
the team would probably suck tbh haha
Damn missed opportunity to pick scream for rifler as honorable mention. Man was a beast with his hs%
The reasoning is kind of inconsistent.
By Niko you made the point that he played so well on different teams and over such a long time.
But then you pick Glave over Karrigan, despite Glave “only” had success with basically one line-up and one time interval. Karrigan build multiple teams and is on the top for longer.
you don’t rate igls by their personal stats
@@launders wouldnt cross my mind to do so. But you can rate IGLs by longevity (what you also did for Niko) and adaptability.
Thanks for giving my goat Twistzz credit :)
I’m surprised there was no 1 taps category. I was waiting for scream to make an appearance😂
The most versatile player ever I've ever seen in Olofmeister in 2015. He's like the ultimate glue man. Literally was lurking, entrying, anchoring, great utility, one of the best secondary awpers (Sometimes AWPs over JW in certain maps). Just the perfect package. Was doing all this while being the best player in the world. His game was incredible to watch. He would make any all time team better with what he brought.
yeah i just made the same comment, he should have included a category of "versatil players", the best i have ever seen in that regard is certainly Zywoo , he might not be the best in any of those categories, best he is good in all of them imo, I started watching pro cs just recently so i dont know much about olofmeister..
@@logoanimation4489 I didn’t include the likes of ZywOo and s1mple because their an anomaly and have integrated themselves into star roles. It’s just pretty unique to have a player like Olofmeister who played in multiple roles and ended becoming the #1 player in the world. A legendary feat.
the #1s are the same as how I would have them Niko, s1mple, Gla1ve and Xyp goats of their positions. I think Electronic before he took on IGL was the only one close to Niko
Honarable mentions
Entry : Ax1le & yekindar ( and jackz too)
Clutch : shox and zywoo
Rifler : electronic, elige, ropz
Awper : kennys, fallen, gaurdian, jw, sh1ro, broky and other 50 guys 🤣
Jw is cool but not close to the best, broky is great but not yet been better than 4th best awper in the world
@@purplespacesnail6836 broky is really smart and cocky awper tho
15:22 Shoutout GuardiaN indeed
Kinda suprised Hunter got no mentions anywhere - granted he hasn't been around as long as NiKo, but he's probably one of the best in class "supportive riflers," he plays on a team with NiKo and Monesy and sometimes still outfrags them while playing worse positions. I think if G2 didn't have Niko that hunter would be able to fill his shoes.
No Xantares as rifler??
everything seems good but where is ropz :(
KennyS is love.
He was the reason back in 2015 when most people (including me) play cs with awp.
the shirt you had on in the intro was clean, where is it from?
our legacy
Launders what do u think for Jackz as a player?
broky has to be an honorable mention for clutches idc he is ridiculous in the clutch
ropz aswell
based in statistics and logic, nice video, im not faze fan but twistzz second best rifler
IGL: Glaive, karrigan, pronax
Awp: simple zywoo device guardian kenny jw
Clutch Xyp, flusha, get right, shox gotta be there and snax
Rifler: Niko, cold, Olof, elige
Pistols: niko, dennis
Only thing detracts from KennyS imo is it was pre awp nerf
Talking about best AWPers without mentioning Guardian consistency? 🤔
I think skipping Support was fine but you should have done best anchor players.
But i guess Astralis winning 3 and having 2 other players as 2nd best would have been too insane :D
Yes, let's mention the role that Magisk basically invented lol
@@zettour. rpk would like to know your location
@@srensen3081 Hey, I said "basically". Obviously anchors existed before, just not to the same level of Magisk.
@@zettour. you also said invented, not reinvented, not set new standards for
he didnt "basically invent" the role, he just played it extremely well
@@srensen3081 Well, "basically inventing" something is equivalent to setting a new standard or reinventing something. This is why Edison basically invented the lightbulb and Ford basically invented the automobile industry despite neither being the original progenitor. Their improvements on the design and manufacturing process were simply too revolutionary.
This is all semantics though. Magisk is the 🧱. This we know. And tanks always lose to walls. That's why Germany had to go through Belgium and bypass the Maginot Line, pincering Allied forces in Belgium with a blitzkrieg through the Ardennes.
KennyS best Awper before Zywoo "spawned" is such a goated statement xd
Could do best anchor aswell, role that gets overlooked cuz obviously you dont get insane highlights, but without them strong ctsides dont exist
I feel like, you should have included a special category for zywoo, cuz yes he is probably not the best in any of those categories, but he is so good in all of that, he can rifle,awp, clutch,entry with any weapon and he is even helping with some calls in 2023 according to apex lmao, for me he is the most versatile player i have ever seen.
I love the love you gave to the rifler goat, to olof and coldzera as well lml
@lau where would u rank shroud in this?
yekindar used to be an outstanding entry-fragger as well as art, worth mentioning them imo