Making quantity art over quality art is one of the biggest reason why I'm debating on just quitting Instagram completely.. I'd like to post just for my portfolio because I've been posting since the beginning of my art journey.. but when it comes to engagement I feel like it's just a waste of time nowadays.. and if you post reels you get random audiences who only like that real or are not even into art.. so it's hard to grow a community.
@@BestGodBeanOfficial heck my stories are viewed by p0rn bots... you know how backwatered a site is when you see bots swarming around At least the p0rn accounts in twitter are real people
I personally think that it’s not about the amount of followers you have, but the amount of engagement and support they are willing to give you. If you have 200 followers but each of them comment on your post, purchase your work, and continuously support you, then that has more value than 10k followers and only 50 of them actively support you.
I have 120 followers and literally no one comments on my posts. I’ll get one comment every 10 posts. I don’t even know what to do to, to engage the 120 followers I have now🥲
timestamps because this video is quite helpful 2:57 reasons out of our control 9:57 why she wants to change: to promote her book 11:15 how growth happened for her again 11:44 post 1 "main" post and 1 "supplemental" post per week 12:58 focusing on what people originally followed your art for 16:18 diversify your posts and your overall feed 18:45 make your comics as shareable as possible 20:07 after sharing your post, do this 21:18 cross promote it on any secondary social media platform you have 22:23 mixing up your hashtags OR squeezing yourself in "non-art" hashtags
I turned 39 2 months ago, and I'm at a point in my life where i finally have enough faith in myself to do what i love, to draw and although i never fulfilled my dream to be an animator, i feel like i can still find my way into that world. I love telling stories and I'm reworking an old story i abandoned years ago. I'm doing it mostly for me but i do have the hope others will like it too. Thank you for this video.
That sounds so cool ❤ I've always considered myself a bad story-teller (well, I still do lol), but lately I found an old story inspired by my old high-school friends... And that felt pretty wholesome. I'm currently thinking about create some good vis dev (as good as I can at least) and trying to get a decent portfolio. Any art-related job will be fine for me, and even if I don't achieve any I'll be rememoring my friends and having fun in the process :D
I personally love sketchbook tours and if people have a lot of satisfying sketchbook posts I’m more likely to follow them. I like the combo of more complete illustrations and process work on social media
Y'all, I can confirm that your likes don't AT ALL tie into your skill level. I used to have a large following and it got hard separating my self-worth from my audience. My socials grew WITH me (4 first years of my journey!). But that account got deleted, and seeing the disconnect where my much more polished skills were less appreciated made it easy to stop that thought process. I think it's a blessing cuz now I have the confidence to explore my art, and my progress has been explosive.
I mainly post on insta and do artist alley shows and I realized I shouldn't just make prints of my highest liked posts because in person I'd get asked about some of my lowest liked work the most. Social media is NOT a gauge of the worth and value of your art, put out and create what you love despite the dumb algorithms and analytics
social media seems to be negatively correlated with sales. all mine are in real life. after quitting social media except UA-cam, my life and art sales improved.
It’s great to hear that variety in content engages followers. I work in marketing as my day job, and the advice is always to post “just one thing.” But it always felt off!! Glad to have that read confirmed.
I've been stuck with literally the same number of followers for at least 2 years now (gain a follower, lose two, maybe gain one again a month later, ...). It's very discouraging, but I still keep drawing what I like to draw because if I tried to do what others want I'd just lose all interest in drawing again :p
Same dammit same exactly as my problem and it's for years the opposite iam losing followers but i kinnda didn't care for losing them but not gaining much
Same story here, I opened mine in mid-2021 and my follower count went up to 300 and something by the end of 2022, and since then, it's at a standstill. It's true that it can be frustrating sometimes, but IG is just a tool for me to share my art. I try not to become a slave to the algorithm and to have total control, and most importantly, as long as I love to draw, that I love what I do, that's all that matters to me, the rest goes by the wayside xD
posting relatable work/photos/reels can def help grow followers, its that relatable element that some people do like, others dont care at all. and of course dogs/cats helps a lot i find lol
I used to watch a lot of advice videos like this, and I found that they never actually had helpful or concrete advice. Or specific enough. Your advice was actually specific and helpful! I feel like I actually learned things I never thought of. Thank you!!!
Losing followers or not getting much growth pretty much hurts for some. It doesn’t if you’re mainly doing it as a hobby or don’t rely on social media as much. But for those who rely on praise and positive reinforcement tend to latch on that. I deal with it more on Twitter then IG (as I’ve been gaining followers there), where I was at 1k but lost 100 over the course of 2 years despite actively posting. I’ve been slowly regaining them as of recently and almost at 1k there again. But also try not to tie it with my skill, as some who even draw better than me have less followers. Also subconsciously used social media as proof that I had potential to be in the art field. But nonetheless, follower count doesn’t equate to getting an art job, people have different tastes and there are those who’ll stay regardless of how often you post or what you draw.
Yeah it definitely hurts when artists rely on it to some degree to make a living. Or some artists want to see if going the independent route is a possible option for them, but the loss / lack of growth can definitely be discouraging. It's great for those who are able to keep it purely as a hobby!
Making a living as ANY kind of influencer (artists included) can be volatile and unpredictable. The number of likes/follows are especially crucial because it brings more followers and exposure. Do they always and automatically translate to income? No.
Let’s be honest. For most artists, social media are better off as platforms for stuff like promotion/exposure. Even the top earning artfluencers (art influencers) can’t solely rely on likes/follows/sponsorships as “stable” sources of income. Being less reliant on these factors can bring wonders to your art career (especially outside of the “influencer bubble”). (No hate to any artfluencer out there.)
Finally, real suggestions!! 😆 Not to put you on a pedestal or anything, but it is so refreshing to hear suggestions that go beyond "just make better content," and "be consistent," while still being able to stay true to our art and direction (rather than abandon ourselves to chase the trend dragon). Big 'preesh, thanks!
So tired of this social media “follower” value. I simply love creating art. Some actual people enjoy my work, but in the stream of social media … don’t care how many “likes” I get.
Social media are mess. It's like second or third job. You have your IRL full time (or freelance job with nda and you have to squeeze art for sm regularly to please algorithm. It's total gambling. You'll never know whether it worked or not. Putting your time, work and mental health into something you can't control is insane. Good thing about modern art field that you actually can not have sm but still be hired.
It's important to do art for yourself and not social media metrics. Thank you for echoing that thought. It's too bad when artists are let down by their art when they don't get social media praise.
You're a huge inspiration for me and thanks to you I had the courage of posting more often, despite all odds being on the against. I hope one day to be able to make it work out like you do! ♥
I post from time to time comics on instagram and tagging your comics with its themes is a must. A lot of people who are searching those hashtags will love to see your take on the theme, be it cute animals, friendships, social issues or school advice. Also, those people will likely share it if it's something that matters to them. When we're making comics and telling stories with them we need to try and find the public to whom is being made. In general, people not interested in art as a whole on instagram will still like reading comics because its about story and themes. I completely agree with all your advice!! Thank you for always sharing your experience so clearly. ^^
Yeah it definitely was a tip i did not realize til a lot later into the game too. People tag themes on infographics / edited photos, so why not artists too!
I know unfortunately professional artists have to become dependent on social media, and I don't judge you for earning your coin talking about it; but I really miss when your channel was about inspiration and fun and not just pleasing metrics and numbers.
Shut you are talking stupidity Everything is measured in cash because it's meaningful for others too, so they are willing to exchange it for theur money. They want your art more than they want that amount of cash at that moment.
What attracts me most is your full color scheme, of warm and cool colors. As for Instagram it is the first thing we see, before actually seeing the full picture. This is more than likely the reason for your doodle comics not to be at full swing. But sold as a comic people are more likely looking at the detail covering and the content more. After all IG short attention is like 5 sec and next.
Me who edit everyday videos for both Instagram and UA-cam, I still practice every day my art skills plus learning and practicing with both digital and traditional arts. painting, writing stories for a webcomic and still sharing everything on all social media it's draining but what keeps me going is the little comments and appreciation I get for my hard work. 🙁But I still feel sad that whenever I do post things those likes are mostly from me. My follower count is nothing when none of them are appreciating my work. When you mentioned bots understand but why whenever I view my IG Story there are e.g. like 50 people looking at it but none of them are looking at my posts. It's been like this since I joined social media back in 2015. I honestly thought I can get over this feeling but I can't help but feel sad for myself who tries so hard and all I want is appreciation and someone to say you're doing well. 🥺 I don't comment on videos and when I do I delete them because I feel embarrassed
Thanks for being really vulnerable and sharing your experience! I as well as many other artists have definitely felt similarly. Sometimes it might be helpful to take a break and see what are some ways you can change what youve been doing al this time? Sometimes i try to change things up every 3 months if what ive been doing hasnt been working. Either way i wish you the best and hope you dont give up!
I've honestly been glad my followers have just stayed around despite me not posting much on social media because of AI art companies. I plan to go private soon just so I can keep posting as there's a bunch of stuff I've really been wanting to share, but not stolen :') My main problem is just reach I suppose? And that's only gonna get even harder going private. I just hate the whole instant dopamine culture, both for consumer and creator as it kills both parties. Creators have to supply more, on top of corporate jobs expecting more for less pay; and consumers easily spend lots of time mindlessly scrolling for a bit of temporary dopamine, as so much is available in such little time. I hate feeling like a robot being made to post content everyday and promoting that culture of expecting something new from the same creators everyday for a sense of fulfillment. It's a greedy world out there where companies prioritize their own profit and wealth over the health and sanity of the everyday people. :( Watch yourselves, even on the platforms you depend on.
from an audience perspective and how we interact with posts: changing styles completely might make people not recognize your art. I sometimes find myself unfollowing people when they appear on my feed and I don't remember following them, then I check their feed and turns out I loved their art but it changed. But having extreme consistency ("unified" posts as you said) is not good either. It might seem like a good idea because it makes your profile very aesthetically pleasing and makes your style more recognizable, but you have to think about a couple of things: - most of the time we are interacting with the individual posts in our feed and not with your whole profile, so making it unified and aesthetic is completely lost to your followers. You gotta aim to make each individual post as eye catching as possible. If not, only your most loyal fans are gonna say "hey! this artist posted!". Not every follower is a total fan and not every interaction is from a follower. -having a very unified style also drives away the people that do check your profile. it looks nice over all but it also becomes boring when choosing which posts to look at closely. By having variety the people that do check your profile will have something to catch their eye that they'll go and look and interact with. Remember that most of the people checking your profile are probably not following you and are checking if it is worth it so if they see a few stand out posts in your profile they might follow. If they only see one or two things they'll just like or save those posts and leave. The people that already follow you that check your profile are most likely fans that saw something in their feed or stories and are checking to see if they missed any posts. Most of your followers and fans are gonna be seeing their feed with your stuff mixed with everything else they follow. You gotta make things engaging and fun because a lot of times we don't remember every single artist we follow. I won't remember your username or your artstyle, but I will remember the specific artwork I liked or the story that I want to continue, and if I see it often enough I'll start recognizing you as the artist. you also have to think about the type of interaction you want. relatable and funny stuff are great because they get a lot of likes and get shared around. Like you said stuff about friends, parters, family etc might make people share it through dms with their friend/parter/family, but most times when someone sends me a post on DMs I don't go follow the user. I just like the post. I think the best posts are gonna be ongoing stories and funny jokes. Jokes get shared around on DMs, stories, get tons of likes and might get people wanting to see more. Ongoing stories are a good way to get followers because if they like the story they might go to he profile, check the previous posts to see the rest of the story, get invested and then follow to get the new parts later.
i don't have a lot of followers what always makes me upset is i will get one i check their page and see that they're follower spammers. so like they mass follow people in hopes they follow back. and i notice they only follow for 2 days then unfollow it kinda gets me upset because it happens a lot to me. but i'm glad that there are people willing to stick around. hopefully some of these tricks help me, thanks for making the video!
Yeah sadly there are lots of bots out there nowadays. It is becoming more difficult to know who are true supporters of your work. But ultimately I wish you the best!
I find that for every follower on tumblr I get that 50 or so (not that I've done the counting bty, but it seems like it) bots/fake accounts and I have to block them because I worry about the security of my account. Twitter was the worst with follows and unfollows a few days later.
I find it weird too. UA-cam seems to be more on our side, but Instagram I don't really see a lot of sketch artist anymore. People love color-and some of friends ask me why I don't add color; and it's not because I'm lazy, it's just that I can't blend color with my style of art.
Personally ( im a 33 year old artist but ALSO follow other artists) i follow whoever artists Art i like (specific artstyle). I dont care about reels or how most artists do theyr art, im interested in either “finished sketches” ( with that i mean ,lets say a sketch with for example pencil , that shows a certain anime character , if its a self drawn chara or a actual Chara from a existing anime/manga from japan/korea doesnt matter to me eather)….. so overall, i just like certain type of art and follow that. I also only follow my absolute fav artists , which are not THAT many. For any others that i find good but not super great, i follow with a side profile, just to look at them sometimes (personally ,i dont like to follow 1000s of artists with my actual profile, hence why i use a side profile+ it would take way too long to mute those ,that i only find ok, and i already follow around 2500 profiles with the side profile, that is btw ONLY used, to follow any type of artists nothing else). I have 2 art profiles (both where i post totally different type of art) 1 personal profile and the side prof that i was talking about, with one of my actual art profiles i ,as said, follow only my absolute fav artists, which are around 150 profiles). ANYWAYS, since im also pregnant right now and have a lot of changes in life, i wasnt able to have time doing art , means im not posting regularly at all anymore, so yeah, that wont get me new followers right now, tho i never had many either. +Most of them were also never really active on my profile, so thats also that… i do art since around 26 years now as a hobby, started as a child ,was doing a education at a art academy in my 20s for 4 years in glass/porcelain art painting ,but never made a buisness out of it , did sell art before but not much at all).
This is wonderful! Thank you for sharing your experience. You have been a great help to me. I am not posting but one day soon. Much continued success to you! Rocko
It can be tough to gain recognition for your art on social media and the internet. Many people seem uninterested in looking at other artists' work. As an artist myself, I don't often seek inspiration from others' original creations. Instead, I've observed that many people tend to imitate each other's work to achieve success. The algorithms on platforms like Instagram have caused problems for many artists, prioritizing those with larger followings and leaving lesser-known artists struggling for visibility. As a result, I'm finding it increasingly challenging to get my art noticed. I'm starting to distance myself from the online art scene because it feels unimportant, and there's little demand for my work. Creating art for platforms like Instagram, DeviantArt, or Newgrounds isn't necessarily a negative, as long as you're doing it for yourself and not just to please others. Internet art is still very niche and only appeals to a specific audience.
Is posting EVERYDAY a bad thing for the algorithm? I really don’t know and it confuses me…like …is more content better or does that slow down everything as well?
Thank you so much for posting this insightful video and sharing all your experiences. There are definitely something that I learned that I will try going forward. 🥰
This video really fired me up! I have been painting and uploading my art to multlpe platforms for years with mild success. This video made it clear that I just have to continue the course. Thank you so much! One Love!
My art account is already 7 years old and for those years my followers only range from 50- 60 many followed but also many people unfollowed me. Recently I gain around 20 followers but then As I enjoy posting and gaining more confident as I see my imrpovemnt over the past years but my followers are slowly unfollowing me and it hurts. 🤣 I know I shouldnt be thinking about people following me but you know sometimes it gave you motivation to continue it. I'm starting to give up now or just thinking to make new IG account. . .
Controversial opinion: organic social media is a waste of time for most conventional offline visual artists. In fact it may be a huge liability as far as getting your work stolen/reproduced without authorization or compensation by AI/machine learning technology. Pay per click may have potential if you are trying to generate leads for niche commisions
You're a genius. this is golden!! This is great as aspiring manga artist I feel a loss on what to share because it takes me so long to create the comics, so I felt lost on what to post in the meantime without burning myself out.Anyone had any suggestions?
All of my followers are from when I was a fan account…. But I haven’t been a fan account for like 5 years now and nothing is changing. It’s really discouraging
I don’t mind the doodle bitches art style but keeping the coloring to one color or different shades of that same color dulled down my interests in them.
I tried this method from around January until now (July) and I was only able to gain perhaps 40 or so followers. It felt rewarding to keep trying to make pieces of higher and lower quality art and comics on a regular basis, but I am beginning to become burnt out for little profit. I get that perhaps my comics and art are more niche and I haven't embraced reels which might be why the algorithms don't like me. Do you/viewers have any tips for small non-viral comic artists to get their work out there? Thank you 🙏
Thank you for this video. I guess I never really grew up on social medias even if I tried. So I m stuck since many years on that point. Mostly because it's hard for me to post more than once a week. And as I m currently not fulltime artist + parenthood I m often very busy. But I wish to grow my audience and I want to try some effort. Starting by making my style more consistent... I almost gave up last month but I litteraly can't !! 😄
Been creating arts since I was 4, entered art school for 6 years and started posting arts on Instagram since 2019/2020. Until now I barely get 50 likes. Sometimes I feel obnoxious when I compare my art to other people and think "why is my folio not growing when my art is better than this?" So yeah, I feel like quiting coz nobody even notices my works.
To be honest I'm not sure how big pinterest truly is nowadays for growth purposes, I think instagram - tiktok, instagram - youtube, or youtube-tiktok are usually the best "combinations" I've seen so far.
Really loved the video! One thing I've found very helpful is to try something different. People would tend to lean towards something they haven't seen before. I could be wrong on this but thats how I see it
I designed my blog very well, but Instagram doesn’t show my posts to anyone for free. I am very disappointed in Instagram and in general I don’t want to be there.
For me it's not Art but Crafting and 3D printing. It's not easy to make something daily and i had a burnout with some Difficult times in my private life. My Reels are always done with thought and quality, as everything has to be perfect. Whebever i see low quality reels exploding in my niche, i blame myself. But i know that's wrong. I meed to compare with myself and reflect. I'll definitely will get back and post more often but don't invest to much time.
I was wondering.. I've had my account for a long time and get very little interaction. Only my few followers see my art. And hashtags do nothing.. should I delete my Instagram and start from scratch?
Yeah, Instagram is a joke of a platform and yes, my drawings suck, but there wasn't anything I was doing to set myself apart from the crowd either. It never even crossed my mind after 10 years after trying lmfao.
Iam drawing for years my problem is i was not posting often because i had college and i didn't know that u should post at least twice in a week that's to much for me i was working on development to be a pro artist i am bit satisfied about now it but i have about 2000 followers i didn't work on commission yet but my followers r just following not active... My acc is dead and my passion also dead!! I couldn't get my acc to success for years and now i can't post that much cuz my art taking time at least one week sometimes 3 days just not always.. Idk really what to do i tried to be active but nothing works 💔
i just started to do digital art on ig, but any of the algorithm is not working, even the reels? i don't wanna give up so early but i don't know what's the problem.
Personally, I think online art blogs and such are oversaturated, and the audiences that consume this media has drastically changed. For example, I used to follow tons of artists on my dA page, but as the years go by, I've stopped following anyone in particular, as well as most of the ones I did follow have moved on from the platform. Really, I just don't have time to be all agog with the newest player on the block if they're not super-huge or super-noticable, plus, the next generation of art followers, well, let's just say they consume media much differently than we did. In short, we'ra all transitory.
do you suggest making different instagram pages for different comics? or do you put them all on one account? like an account for general art, and account for comic 1 another for other comic ideas
How can I grow my UA-cam channel 😭😭😭 Videos aren't spreading anymore! When they spead they are liked❤💛 Nh I adore them anyway But how can I make videos spread?!!
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Making quantity art over quality art is one of the biggest reason why I'm debating on just quitting Instagram completely.. I'd like to post just for my portfolio because I've been posting since the beginning of my art journey.. but when it comes to engagement I feel like it's just a waste of time nowadays.. and if you post reels you get random audiences who only like that real or are not even into art.. so it's hard to grow a community.
this is so true, I feel like I'm reading my thoughts in a comments section.
My art Instagram's comments are just filled with bots ;-;
@@BestGodBeanOfficial heck my stories are viewed by p0rn bots... you know how backwatered a site is when you see bots swarming around
At least the p0rn accounts in twitter are real people
Believe me i work on quality and being pro but not working it takes tome and algorithm there needs u to be active
For real. And unlike ealy IG where people can find you with the hashtags, now i don't even know how people can possibly find you lol
I personally think that it’s not about the amount of followers you have, but the amount of engagement and support they are willing to give you.
If you have 200 followers but each of them comment on your post, purchase your work, and continuously support you, then that has more value than 10k followers and only 50 of them actively support you.
Same problem 😢
totally agree
I have 120 followers and literally no one comments on my posts. I’ll get one comment every 10 posts. I don’t even know what to do to, to engage the 120 followers I have now🥲
Totally agree..but that's type of followers so hard to find...!!
yeh same
timestamps because this video is quite helpful
2:57 reasons out of our control
9:57 why she wants to change: to promote her book
11:15 how growth happened for her again
11:44 post 1 "main" post and 1 "supplemental" post per week
12:58 focusing on what people originally followed your art for
16:18 diversify your posts and your overall feed
18:45 make your comics as shareable as possible
20:07 after sharing your post, do this
21:18 cross promote it on any secondary social media platform you have
22:23 mixing up your hashtags OR squeezing yourself in "non-art" hashtags
Thanks
I turned 39 2 months ago, and I'm at a point in my life where i finally have enough faith in myself to do what i love, to draw and although i never fulfilled my dream to be an animator, i feel like i can still find my way into that world. I love telling stories and I'm reworking an old story i abandoned years ago. I'm doing it mostly for me but i do have the hope others will like it too. Thank you for this video.
Good luck on your road to your dreams, you got it!
That is the best attitude to have ❤. Just keep trying to do what you love.
That sounds so cool ❤ I've always considered myself a bad story-teller (well, I still do lol), but lately I found an old story inspired by my old high-school friends... And that felt pretty wholesome. I'm currently thinking about create some good vis dev (as good as I can at least) and trying to get a decent portfolio. Any art-related job will be fine for me, and even if I don't achieve any I'll be rememoring my friends and having fun in the process :D
I just subbed to your channel :)
Do it…live it. I can’t wait to see what you do
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I personally love sketchbook tours and if people have a lot of satisfying sketchbook posts I’m more likely to follow them. I like the combo of more complete illustrations and process work on social media
That's pretty cool, I too love a good sketchbook spread!
I have to finish a sketchbook to do a tour lol
Maybe you could check out my youtube channel and check out my sketchbook tour video 🤩
no imma go finish my sketchbook lol
Y'all, I can confirm that your likes don't AT ALL tie into your skill level. I used to have a large following and it got hard separating my self-worth from my audience. My socials grew WITH me (4 first years of my journey!). But that account got deleted, and seeing the disconnect where my much more polished skills were less appreciated made it easy to stop that thought process. I think it's a blessing cuz now I have the confidence to explore my art, and my progress has been explosive.
were you able to eventually build a following after your first account got deleted?
What about your follower count does that not reflect your talent as well.
Why did ur account got deleted..
@@artislife456 that era 2 years ago when insta was nuking small accounts left and right.
I mainly post on insta and do artist alley shows and I realized I shouldn't just make prints of my highest liked posts because in person I'd get asked about some of my lowest liked work the most. Social media is NOT a gauge of the worth and value of your art, put out and create what you love despite the dumb algorithms and analytics
social media seems to be negatively correlated with sales. all mine are in real life. after quitting social media except UA-cam, my life and art sales improved.
Interesting!
Losing followers can be really rough when you’re still posting regularly 😢
yeah esp for artists who have to create each post from nothing!
The biggest issue, however, is instagrams constantly changing algorithm, artists can’t have a break
It’s great to hear that variety in content engages followers. I work in marketing as my day job, and the advice is always to post “just one thing.” But it always felt off!! Glad to have that read confirmed.
as a consumer , the field with the most Variety is oftentime the most Interesting :DD Congratulations on your journey
I've been stuck with literally the same number of followers for at least 2 years now (gain a follower, lose two, maybe gain one again a month later, ...). It's very discouraging, but I still keep drawing what I like to draw because if I tried to do what others want I'd just lose all interest in drawing again :p
God same my follower count has been stagnant for years
Same dammit same exactly as my problem and it's for years the opposite iam losing followers but i kinnda didn't care for losing them but not gaining much
For me too except it’s still at 0 😍
OMG same, the amount of headaches me trying to keep up with the trends. But obviously my motivation goes wild when i draw something that i like.
Same story here, I opened mine in mid-2021 and my follower count went up to 300 and something by the end of 2022, and since then, it's at a standstill. It's true that it can be frustrating sometimes, but IG is just a tool for me to share my art. I try not to become a slave to the algorithm and to have total control, and most importantly, as long as I love to draw, that I love what I do, that's all that matters to me, the rest goes by the wayside xD
posting relatable work/photos/reels can def help grow followers, its that relatable element that some people do like, others dont care at all. and of course dogs/cats helps a lot i find lol
agreed! my cat comics def do help a lot i notice
I used to watch a lot of advice videos like this, and I found that they never actually had helpful or concrete advice. Or specific enough. Your advice was actually specific and helpful! I feel like I actually learned things I never thought of. Thank you!!!
Losing followers or not getting much growth pretty much hurts for some. It doesn’t if you’re mainly doing it as a hobby or don’t rely on social media as much.
But for those who rely on praise and positive reinforcement tend to latch on that. I deal with it more on Twitter then IG (as I’ve been gaining followers there), where I was at 1k but lost 100 over the course of 2 years despite actively posting. I’ve been slowly regaining them as of recently and almost at 1k there again.
But also try not to tie it with my skill, as some who even draw better than me have less followers. Also subconsciously used social media as proof that I had potential to be in the art field. But nonetheless, follower count doesn’t equate to getting an art job, people have different tastes and there are those who’ll stay regardless of how often you post or what you draw.
Yeah it definitely hurts when artists rely on it to some degree to make a living. Or some artists want to see if going the independent route is a possible option for them, but the loss / lack of growth can definitely be discouraging. It's great for those who are able to keep it purely as a hobby!
Followers *do* equate to getting an art job because you have an audience to attract commissions
Making a living as ANY kind of influencer (artists included) can be volatile and unpredictable. The number of likes/follows are especially crucial because it brings more followers and exposure. Do they always and automatically translate to income? No.
Let’s be honest. For most artists, social media are better off as platforms for stuff like promotion/exposure. Even the top earning artfluencers (art influencers) can’t solely rely on likes/follows/sponsorships as “stable” sources of income. Being less reliant on these factors can bring wonders to your art career (especially outside of the “influencer bubble”).
(No hate to any artfluencer out there.)
people are leaving twitter
Finally, real suggestions!! 😆 Not to put you on a pedestal or anything, but it is so refreshing to hear suggestions that go beyond "just make better content," and "be consistent," while still being able to stay true to our art and direction (rather than abandon ourselves to chase the trend dragon). Big 'preesh, thanks!
So tired of this social media “follower” value. I simply love creating art. Some actual people enjoy my work, but in the stream of social media … don’t care how many “likes” I get.
Ah, followers... I wish it wasn't such a necessity. It definitely isn't for some jobs but there are certain art jobs which depend on it.
yeah its honestly annoying T_T
I've been stuck in the stagnant point. I gain followers but lose just as many, so it stays in the same 2-3 person range. :-/
Sorry to hear about it, it really sucks but I hope that you don't give up and that things will look up soon!
Social media are mess. It's like second or third job. You have your IRL full time (or freelance job with nda and you have to squeeze art for sm regularly to please algorithm. It's total gambling. You'll never know whether it worked or not. Putting your time, work and mental health into something you can't control is insane.
Good thing about modern art field that you actually can not have sm but still be hired.
Master your skills
Build strong portfolio
Send it to studios
Repeat till get hired
-Impressive job!- *Everyone agrees the sole way to grow your audience is in,sta,crease*
girl ur thumbnail and title are so cute and engaging , knew i’d like the video before i even watched it
It's important to do art for yourself and not social media metrics. Thank you for echoing that thought. It's too bad when artists are let down by their art when they don't get social media praise.
You're a huge inspiration for me and thanks to you I had the courage of posting more often, despite all odds being on the against. I hope one day to be able to make it work out like you do! ♥
Aww thank you, glad my videos can help encourage you in any way :')
I post from time to time comics on instagram and tagging your comics with its themes is a must. A lot of people who are searching those hashtags will love to see your take on the theme, be it cute animals, friendships, social issues or school advice. Also, those people will likely share it if it's something that matters to them. When we're making comics and telling stories with them we need to try and find the public to whom is being made. In general, people not interested in art as a whole on instagram will still like reading comics because its about story and themes. I completely agree with all your advice!! Thank you for always sharing your experience so clearly. ^^
Yeah it definitely was a tip i did not realize til a lot later into the game too. People tag themes on infographics / edited photos, so why not artists too!
I know unfortunately professional artists have to become dependent on social media, and I don't judge you for earning your coin talking about it; but I really miss when your channel was about inspiration and fun and not just pleasing metrics and numbers.
I miss those times too 🥺
People need to eat homie
People have bills to pay.
I think this content is still inspiration and fun, specially for creators struggling to make a living.
Shut you are talking stupidity
Everything is measured in cash because it's meaningful for others too, so they are willing to exchange it for theur money. They want your art more than they want that amount of cash at that moment.
What attracts me most is your full color scheme, of warm and cool colors. As for Instagram it is the first thing we see, before actually seeing the full picture. This is more than likely the reason for your doodle comics not to be at full swing. But sold as a comic people are more likely looking at the detail covering and the content more. After all IG short attention is like 5 sec and next.
Ngl. Didnt wanna click... but i needed this. Social media is so frustrating. Thanks for the info.
Me who edit everyday videos for both Instagram and UA-cam, I still practice every day my art skills plus learning and practicing with both digital and traditional arts. painting, writing stories for a webcomic and still sharing everything on all social media it's draining but what keeps me going is the little comments and appreciation I get for my hard work.
🙁But I still feel sad that whenever I do post things those likes are mostly from me. My follower count is nothing when none of them are appreciating my work. When you mentioned bots understand but why whenever I view my IG Story there are e.g. like 50 people looking at it but none of them are looking at my posts. It's been like this since I joined social media back in 2015. I honestly thought I can get over this feeling but I can't help but feel sad for myself who tries so hard and all I want is appreciation and someone to say you're doing well. 🥺
I don't comment on videos and when I do I delete them because I feel embarrassed
Thanks for being really vulnerable and sharing your experience! I as well as many other artists have definitely felt similarly. Sometimes it might be helpful to take a break and see what are some ways you can change what youve been doing al this time? Sometimes i try to change things up every 3 months if what ive been doing hasnt been working. Either way i wish you the best and hope you dont give up!
@@mewTripled Thank you so much this encourages me to keep going and find new ways that I don't have to overwhelm myself and do what I can in a day!😌
Some of it might be because of the algorithm
I've honestly been glad my followers have just stayed around despite me not posting much on social media because of AI art companies. I plan to go private soon just so I can keep posting as there's a bunch of stuff I've really been wanting to share, but not stolen :') My main problem is just reach I suppose? And that's only gonna get even harder going private. I just hate the whole instant dopamine culture, both for consumer and creator as it kills both parties. Creators have to supply more, on top of corporate jobs expecting more for less pay; and consumers easily spend lots of time mindlessly scrolling for a bit of temporary dopamine, as so much is available in such little time. I hate feeling like a robot being made to post content everyday and promoting that culture of expecting something new from the same creators everyday for a sense of fulfillment. It's a greedy world out there where companies prioritize their own profit and wealth over the health and sanity of the everyday people. :(
Watch yourselves, even on the platforms you depend on.
from an audience perspective and how we interact with posts:
changing styles completely might make people not recognize your art. I sometimes find myself unfollowing people when they appear on my feed and I don't remember following them, then I check their feed and turns out I loved their art but it changed.
But having extreme consistency ("unified" posts as you said) is not good either. It might seem like a good idea because it makes your profile very aesthetically pleasing and makes your style more recognizable, but you have to think about a couple of things:
- most of the time we are interacting with the individual posts in our feed and not with your whole profile, so making it unified and aesthetic is completely lost to your followers. You gotta aim to make each individual post as eye catching as possible. If not, only your most loyal fans are gonna say "hey! this artist posted!". Not every follower is a total fan and not every interaction is from a follower.
-having a very unified style also drives away the people that do check your profile. it looks nice over all but it also becomes boring when choosing which posts to look at closely. By having variety the people that do check your profile will have something to catch their eye that they'll go and look and interact with.
Remember that most of the people checking your profile are probably not following you and are checking if it is worth it so if they see a few stand out posts in your profile they might follow. If they only see one or two things they'll just like or save those posts and leave. The people that already follow you that check your profile are most likely fans that saw something in their feed or stories and are checking to see if they missed any posts.
Most of your followers and fans are gonna be seeing their feed with your stuff mixed with everything else they follow. You gotta make things engaging and fun because a lot of times we don't remember every single artist we follow. I won't remember your username or your artstyle, but I will remember the specific artwork I liked or the story that I want to continue, and if I see it often enough I'll start recognizing you as the artist.
you also have to think about the type of interaction you want. relatable and funny stuff are great because they get a lot of likes and get shared around. Like you said stuff about friends, parters, family etc might make people share it through dms with their friend/parter/family, but most times when someone sends me a post on DMs I don't go follow the user. I just like the post. I think the best posts are gonna be ongoing stories and funny jokes. Jokes get shared around on DMs, stories, get tons of likes and might get people wanting to see more. Ongoing stories are a good way to get followers because if they like the story they might go to he profile, check the previous posts to see the rest of the story, get invested and then follow to get the new parts later.
I LOVE Oni!! It's so good! Such a great story, and such a fun style to look at!
i don't have a lot of followers what always makes me upset is i will get one i check their page and see that they're follower spammers. so like they mass follow people in hopes they follow back. and i notice they only follow for 2 days then unfollow it kinda gets me upset because it happens a lot to me. but i'm glad that there are people willing to stick around. hopefully some of these tricks help me, thanks for making the video!
Yeah sadly there are lots of bots out there nowadays. It is becoming more difficult to know who are true supporters of your work. But ultimately I wish you the best!
@@mewTripled indeed! thank you! wish you all the best as well 😊
I find that for every follower on tumblr I get that 50 or so (not that I've done the counting bty, but it seems like it) bots/fake accounts and I have to block them because I worry about the security of my account. Twitter was the worst with follows and unfollows a few days later.
ugh those are the worst 😭
@@aeoligarlic4024 aren't they😭
When people talk about artist on Instagram, I don't know why it's always digital art only....I don't find any traditional artist here like me!
I find it weird too. UA-cam seems to be more on our side, but Instagram I don't really see a lot of sketch artist anymore. People love color-and some of friends ask me why I don't add color; and it's not because I'm lazy, it's just that I can't blend color with my style of art.
i agree, our reach is very low and there's not much growth. but beginner digital artists are able to grow their account like crazy
@@AA-rr9ly I know, it's such a double-standard
Personally ( im a 33 year old artist but ALSO follow other artists) i follow whoever artists Art i like (specific artstyle).
I dont care about reels or how most artists do theyr art, im interested in either “finished sketches” ( with that i mean
,lets say a sketch with for example pencil , that shows a certain anime character , if its a self drawn chara or a actual
Chara from a existing anime/manga from japan/korea doesnt matter to me eather)….. so overall, i just like certain type of art and follow that. I also only follow my absolute fav artists , which are not THAT many. For any others that i find good but not super great, i follow with a side profile, just to look at them sometimes (personally ,i dont like to follow 1000s of artists with my actual profile, hence why i use a side profile+ it would take way too long to mute those ,that i only find ok, and i already follow around 2500 profiles with the side profile, that is btw ONLY used, to follow any type of artists nothing else). I have 2 art profiles (both where i post totally different type of art) 1 personal profile and the side prof that i was talking about, with one of my actual art profiles i ,as said, follow only my absolute fav artists, which are around 150 profiles).
ANYWAYS, since im also pregnant right now and have a lot of changes in life, i wasnt able to have time doing art , means im not posting regularly at all anymore, so yeah, that wont get me new followers right now, tho i never had many either. +Most of them were also never really active on my profile, so thats also that… i do art since around 26 years now as a hobby, started as a child ,was doing a education at a art academy in my 20s for 4 years in glass/porcelain art painting ,but never made a buisness out of it , did sell art before but not much at all).
Everyone wants followers, unless you are alone on the street at night.
This is wonderful! Thank you for sharing your experience. You have been a great help to me. I am not posting but one day soon. Much continued success to you!
Rocko
It can be tough to gain recognition for your art on social media and the internet. Many people seem uninterested in looking at other artists' work. As an artist myself, I don't often seek inspiration from others' original creations. Instead, I've observed that many people tend to imitate each other's work to achieve success. The algorithms on platforms like Instagram have caused problems for many artists, prioritizing those with larger followings and leaving lesser-known artists struggling for visibility. As a result, I'm finding it increasingly challenging to get my art noticed. I'm starting to distance myself from the online art scene because it feels unimportant, and there's little demand for my work. Creating art for platforms like Instagram, DeviantArt, or Newgrounds isn't necessarily a negative, as long as you're doing it for yourself and not just to please others. Internet art is still very niche and only appeals to a specific audience.
Man, the only followers I have are my school friends and relatives
Thanks for this complete and sincere content! Hugs from Brazil!!
I keep debating on posting art or selling things because it’s so frustrating trying to get followers to interact, thanks for this video
I tried everything. Tags, no tags, communicating, consistently. Nothing. Always nothing. I just have to accept that everyone knows I'm worthless.
No you're not. Instagram is just a bad app
No way I just watched Oni! Its so cool that you worked on that
really enjoyed seeing your thought process for what you post and why. Thanks for this vid!
Thanks again for the many advices you share with us learning artists.
Every insight was super useful, thank you, Mew~ 🐺✨🙌🏼
Glad to help in any way 🙂
I really liked this one. Very interesting perspective.
thanks!
Thank you so much for these tips, this whole talk, very helpful! 🖤🖤🖤 keep doing what you do!! 😃😃😃
ONI WAS amazing by the way great work
thank you! :')
This is really practical advice!! Thank you - its reminded me to not take my art so seriously all the time. To experiment with it.
Is posting EVERYDAY a bad thing for the algorithm? I really don’t know and it confuses me…like …is more content better or does that slow down everything as well?
Thank you so much for posting this insightful video and sharing all your experiences. There are definitely something that I learned that I will try going forward. 🥰
This video really fired me up! I have been painting and uploading my art to multlpe platforms for years with mild success. This video made it clear that I just have to continue the course. Thank you so much! One Love!
Wow thanks for this❤❤❤
My art account is already 7 years old and for those years my followers only range from 50- 60 many followed but also many people unfollowed me. Recently I gain around 20 followers but then As I enjoy posting and gaining more confident as I see my imrpovemnt over the past years but my followers are slowly unfollowing me and it hurts. 🤣 I know I shouldnt be thinking about people following me but you know sometimes it gave you motivation to continue it. I'm starting to give up now or just thinking to make new IG account. . .
Great insights. A lot of good stuff to consider. Ty for sharing.
It’s important to mention that insta doesn’t work without vpn in Russia so some people just stopped use it.
Omg your skin is amazing! What skincare and makeup do you use? 😳
Thank you this video is extremely helpful and inspiring
Controversial opinion: organic social media is a waste of time for most conventional offline visual artists. In fact it may be a huge liability as far as getting your work stolen/reproduced without authorization or compensation by AI/machine learning technology. Pay per click may have potential if you are trying to generate leads for niche commisions
Thanks for the great tips! 💖
You're a genius. this is golden!! This is great as aspiring manga artist I feel a loss on what to share because it takes me so long to create the comics, so I felt lost on what to post in the meantime without burning myself out.Anyone had any suggestions?
I actually like following more people than they follow me,
I’m just that’s wild
All of my followers are from when I was a fan account…. But I haven’t been a fan account for like 5 years now and nothing is changing. It’s really discouraging
I don’t mind the doodle bitches art style but keeping the coloring to one color or different shades of that same color dulled down my interests in them.
Instagram seems impossible to keep up with these days for artist. It used to be the place to be
I tried this method from around January until now (July) and I was only able to gain perhaps 40 or so followers. It felt rewarding to keep trying to make pieces of higher and lower quality art and comics on a regular basis, but I am beginning to become burnt out for little profit. I get that perhaps my comics and art are more niche and I haven't embraced reels which might be why the algorithms don't like me. Do you/viewers have any tips for small non-viral comic artists to get their work out there? Thank you 🙏
Well im too disabled to work so may as well double down on my art then. Thanks for the insights.
Thank you for this video. I guess I never really grew up on social medias even if I tried. So I m stuck since many years on that point. Mostly because it's hard for me to post more than once a week. And as I m currently not fulltime artist + parenthood I m often very busy. But I wish to grow my audience and I want to try some effort. Starting by making my style more consistent... I almost gave up last month but I litteraly can't !! 😄
Please could you do a detailed video about your experience with your drawing tablet? Is it also a computer and what device would you recommend?
i have 6 followers at the moment for my animated series i'm developing, the followers are real people i know so that's something
Thank you❤
Thank you ❤️❤️❤️
I love Oni!!!! A really beautiful story and visual masterpiece! Thank you for making that ❤
Been creating arts since I was 4, entered art school for 6 years and started posting arts on Instagram since 2019/2020. Until now I barely get 50 likes. Sometimes I feel obnoxious when I compare my art to other people and think "why is my folio not growing when my art is better than this?" So yeah, I feel like quiting coz nobody even notices my works.
Your video is very helpful! I'd like to learn about promoting art through cross-posting on Pinterest. Does it work or not?
To be honest I'm not sure how big pinterest truly is nowadays for growth purposes, I think instagram - tiktok, instagram - youtube, or youtube-tiktok are usually the best "combinations" I've seen so far.
Really loved the video! One thing I've found very helpful is to try something different. People would tend to lean towards something they haven't seen before. I could be wrong on this but thats how I see it
I designed my blog very well, but Instagram doesn’t show my posts to anyone for free. I am very disappointed in Instagram and in general I don’t want to be there.
Where is the other options to post my artwork on social media?
thank you!!
Hi Michelle, please do a video on book recommmation for general artist and for storyboard artist
Good idea ill think of some :)
@@mewTripled 💀💀💀🤡you replied ✨ sending love from Bhutan 🇧🇹🇧🇹🇧🇹
For me it's not Art but Crafting and 3D printing. It's not easy to make something daily and i had a burnout with some Difficult times in my private life. My Reels are always done with thought and quality, as everything has to be perfect. Whebever i see low quality reels exploding in my niche, i blame myself. But i know that's wrong. I meed to compare with myself and reflect. I'll definitely will get back and post more often but don't invest to much time.
I was wondering.. I've had my account for a long time and get very little interaction. Only my few followers see my art. And hashtags do nothing.. should I delete my Instagram and start from scratch?
Yeah, Instagram is a joke of a platform and yes, my drawings suck, but there wasn't anything I was doing to set myself apart from the crowd either. It never even crossed my mind after 10 years after trying lmfao.
Wondering why instagram wont let me see the metric followers it only shows accounts reached and shares
I miss your content mew tripled
11:35 it starts
thank you for this lol
started sharing stuff on yt and ig this year and the progress has been at a turtle pace so far, sadly.
sorry to hear it's been slow but keep going! don't give up!
Iam drawing for years my problem is i was not posting often because i had college and i didn't know that u should post at least twice in a week that's to much for me i was working on development to be a pro artist i am bit satisfied about now it but i have about 2000 followers i didn't work on commission yet but my followers r just following not active... My acc is dead and my passion also dead!! I couldn't get my acc to success for years and now i can't post that much cuz my art taking time at least one week sometimes 3 days just not always.. Idk really what to do i tried to be active but nothing works 💔
hashtags don't work anymore unfortunately
i just started to do digital art on ig, but any of the algorithm is not working, even the reels? i don't wanna give up so early but i don't know what's the problem.
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Any recommendations for posting for non animation, non character art?
I always focuse on quality over quantity in my art works
Omg what the hell, your name is Michelle Lam?!
Me too ! And we're both animators, this is so strange 😅
Personally, I think online art blogs and such are oversaturated, and the audiences that consume this media has drastically changed. For example, I used to follow tons of artists on my dA page, but as the years go by, I've stopped following anyone in particular, as well as most of the ones I did follow have moved on from the platform. Really, I just don't have time to be all agog with the newest player on the block if they're not super-huge or super-noticable, plus, the next generation of art followers, well, let's just say they consume media much differently than we did. In short, we'ra all transitory.
do you suggest making different instagram pages for different comics? or do you put them all on one account? like an account for general art, and account for comic 1 another for other comic ideas
The algorithme is keeping my accounts in the dark 😂😂
How can I grow my UA-cam channel 😭😭😭
Videos aren't spreading anymore!
When they spead they are liked❤💛
Nh I adore them anyway
But how can I make videos spread?!!
This is why I dont share my art work. 😅
what foundation do you use!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!