Thanks Leon, especially for noticing the Position control. When I came up with a way to simulate moving front to back within a natural sounding space without hearing phase (or any other) artifacts, I wasn't sure what to call that control. I'm grateful that our developers were willing to help me to faithfully recreate and build upon my work and it's heartwarming to know that some folks are finding the 2016's reverbs, from 40+ years ago, useful in 2023. Never would have thunk it would run in a pedal!
It's powerful and makes a lot of sense, although my head spins thinking about the hours of work that must have gone into something so "simple". Good work stands the test of time, right?
Thanks Tony for all your amazing work over the years! I'm curious: what do you think of the Princeton 2016 hardware and new H90 algorithms compared to your original?
@@Manmademadman All DSP algorithms are created by adding and multiplying digital numbers. The challenge back then was handling multiplication at audio rates. CPUs were not up to the task and DSP chips did not yet exist. For the original SP2016 I had to design an 'array processor'. It was a large circuit board that combined six 'bit slice' ALUs (24 bits wide), a 16X16 multiplier accumulator (32 bit accumulator) and two banks (one SRAM, one DRAM) of 16 bit wide memory . The TRW multiplier accumulator was designed for the military and was the key component in the design back then. In 2000, at the pleading of George Massenburg (and a few others), I spent months reverse engineering my original design and, with the help of Manifold Labs, developed the Princeton Digital reverb box using 24 bit DSPs. The algorithm was close to the original but the math was different since it was all 24 bit. I also misremembered the sample rate of the original box by a small percentage. For the H90 algorithm, as well as the Reverb2016 plugin, adjustments were made to tweak these small differences and, as best as I can tell, the developers have finally nailed it.
Thanks for using these effects in a metal/rock context. It’s usually just ambient stuff or blues guys showing these effects. So glad I found your channel!
Now that's some great reverbs! It definitely seems with modelling units, if your paying big bucks your getting amazing quality. Oh I hope your dad's not missing his strat to much! 🤣
The reverbs fine nuances sound nearly as decent as my Bossinger´s "DR600"! 😂 Joke aside: The "H90" is strongly on my 2023 wishlist. It seems to be conveniently very capable of doing "everything FX"- and even(tide) more! 👍
Hey Leon! As always, an amazing demo! You're not helping my GAS at all! :D I recently picked up an H90 to complement my Axe Fx iii, but I'm really curious about how the detune algorithm compares to the eclipse. I hear many people are interested in a comparison, although maybe not specifically the detune. It would be great to see a general comparison! 😁
Those are great reverbs. I prefer the articulation and clarity of the modern plate to the less bright, dulled vintage. But that is a great processor for what it does. My initial reaction to it, was that it's overpriced. And I still think they're asking too much for it in todays market. $450 to $600 seems more reasonable.
Thanks Leon, especially for noticing the Position control. When I came up with a way to simulate moving front to back within a natural sounding space without hearing phase (or any other) artifacts, I wasn't sure what to call that control. I'm grateful that our developers were willing to help me to faithfully recreate and build upon my work and it's heartwarming to know that some folks are finding the 2016's reverbs, from 40+ years ago, useful in 2023. Never would have thunk it would run in a pedal!
It's powerful and makes a lot of sense, although my head spins thinking about the hours of work that must have gone into something so "simple". Good work stands the test of time, right?
Thanks Tony for all your amazing work over the years! I'm curious: what do you think of the Princeton 2016 hardware and new H90 algorithms compared to your original?
@@Manmademadman All DSP algorithms are created by adding and multiplying digital numbers. The challenge back then was handling multiplication at audio rates. CPUs were not up to the task and DSP chips did not yet exist. For the original SP2016 I had to design an 'array processor'. It was a large circuit board that combined six 'bit slice' ALUs (24 bits wide), a 16X16 multiplier accumulator (32 bit accumulator) and two banks (one SRAM, one DRAM) of 16 bit wide memory . The TRW multiplier accumulator was designed for the military and was the key component in the design back then. In 2000, at the pleading of George Massenburg (and a few others), I spent months reverse engineering my original design and, with the help of Manifold Labs, developed the Princeton Digital reverb box using 24 bit DSPs. The algorithm was close to the original but the math was different since it was all 24 bit. I also misremembered the sample rate of the original box by a small percentage. For the H90 algorithm, as well as the Reverb2016 plugin, adjustments were made to tweak these small differences and, as best as I can tell, the developers have finally nailed it.
@@anthonyagnello3733 Amazing information. Thank you for sharing and documenting!
Is this comparable to the lexicon sound?
Thanks for using these effects in a metal/rock context. It’s usually just ambient stuff or blues guys showing these effects. So glad I found your channel!
My pleasure!
Bedroom Eyes. I was like naw he didn’t play that. Yes he did. Such a great verb.
Eclipse is such a killer album
Now that's some great reverbs! It definitely seems with modelling units, if your paying big bucks your getting amazing quality. Oh I hope your dad's not missing his strat to much! 🤣
In joke related to the infamous play Authentic vid
I know there have been some negative comments about the H90's price, but I think you kinda get what you pay for-- like these verbs. Premium quality.
The reverbs fine nuances sound nearly as decent as my Bossinger´s "DR600"! 😂 Joke aside: The "H90" is strongly on my 2023 wishlist. It seems to be conveniently very capable of doing "everything FX"- and even(tide) more! 👍
Can you do Circular and Pan delays simultaneously as in a pcm 80/81 with this pedal?
Nothing wrong with a little bit of "Ain't No Love In The Heart of the City" on a Sunday morning.
ive been using the SP2016 reverb plugin from them for a while and its awesome, seeing that its in a pedal now increases my desire for the H90
66 yr. Old rocker love great guitarist, don't play though, new subscriber caught your old 5 KILLER BLACKMORE RIFFS, Have you done a M. Schenker vid?
Yes indeed! ua-cam.com/video/zMPJbAHMcjA/v-deo.html
Hey Leon! As always, an amazing demo! You're not helping my GAS at all! :D
I recently picked up an H90 to complement my Axe Fx iii, but I'm really curious about how the detune algorithm compares to the eclipse. I hear many people are interested in a comparison, although maybe not specifically the detune. It would be great to see a general comparison! 😁
Working on it :)
What the hell is that beautiful riff at 2:42. It sounds beautiful.
Ragdoll - Heaven Above
@@LeonTodd oh shit no wonder it’s great
Those are great reverbs. I prefer the articulation and clarity of the modern plate to the less bright, dulled vintage. But that is a great processor for what it does. My initial reaction to it, was that it's overpriced. And I still think they're asking too much for it in todays market. $450 to $600 seems more reasonable.
Cheaper than an Eclipse yet more processing power and algorithms in a convenient pedal format. That's how they price it. 🙂
Such an amazing reverb!
Stupid question: are there versions of these new algorithms for the H9?
No
Bedroom eyes!!!
Sounds amazing.