2024 Toyota RAV4 TRD Off-Road Overland Adventure
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- Опубліковано 16 лют 2024
- Ryan drives the 2024 Toyota RAV4 TRD Off-Road to the top of a mountain to see if this little CUV can redeem itself.
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I always love DSTV's videos and watch them whenever a new video comes out. The combination of the rarity of real-world off-road tests, the knowledge and experience that Ryan shares, the cinematography, and just the overall experience of these videos never fails to make my day better while teaching me something new. Keep up the good work, we'll be here to enjoy them
I always appreciate the variety in Ryan’s reviews and adventures. Plus he keeps adding more terrain to his testing tool belt which is pretty neat. He’s got a great work ethic as it takes a lot to pull content like this together consistently. Well done and keep it up.
We need to see a mazda cx 5, rav 4 and CRV offroad competition.
Would love to see you try this with a RAV4 hybrid (not the woodland) and some wild peaks. Would be interesting to see if it could make it
I second that! I would love a RAV4 Hybrid test like this one.
@@moonsaplingyes not the woodland or the RAV4 hybrid but the RAV4 Prime, on a nastier route than this! 😁. 🤔 Actually compare the RAV4 Prime with the RAV4 hybrid on the same nasty road to see how th the extra power in the RAV4 Prime does compared to the regular hybrid.
I enjoy my RAV4 Woodland with real (traction A, 3 peak rated) wild peaks. It gets great mileage and rides really well on rough roads due to to the springs used in the suspension. It's no off roader, I have use SUVs for that, but it is a decent little SUV once you replace the factory supplied tires, which are terrible.
Yeah putting " pure street car / sedan tires" on SUVs like manufacturers love to do, to be cheap, is inexcusable.
I wish they made a TRD PRO Off-road hybrid
After this, I don't know how TFL still exists. This is refined, to the point, no need of stupid jokes. Great job, love this channel
I’d double heart this if I could.
@@drivingsportsY’all must be beefing😮
TFL is only good for towing tests.
I think some people like the appeal of their personalities, like you're watching your father/brothers/friends joking around. But I do understand the want for clear cut and dry information because at the end of the day you're watching a CAR review.
@@drivingsportsyeah those guys are a bunch of bozos. It’s amazing they get any views at all.
I don’t have anything in particular to say today I just love watching these videos. I’ve been watching consistently for a couple of months now and a new upload is just as exciting as it was when I first started. Thank you DSTV team
love the drone footage
Love the birds eye view reference. really helps put into perspective of where you're going and how the vehicle is reacting to the road.
Thank you for sharing the trail details!
The quality of your videos is consistently excellent. And you have very good timing, too. Keep up the good work!
Thank u
Recently bought an identical car to your wife's...2021 Crosstrek Sport in magnitite grey! Watched all the videos that featured it before I bought it, and it sold me on it! Thanks Ryan!
I would love to see the RAV4 Prime tested on a nastier route than this!😁
I'm thinking the RAV4 Prime with the instant torque and more powerful electric motors on it with a 2-in lift skid plates and decent/good tires.. . might just "be something"? 😃
A group of us did this on jan 28th in the snow in our first gen crv's!
I have a TRD OR 2020.. with just small mod’s I did (2 inch lift and 31 inch k02) it’s really impressive where I brought this Rav4… great video as usual !
I really like your show. Thank you so much for this great explanations and experiment.
Love your videos. Refined and not at all gimmicky.
love this video format. keep up the awesome work! love your content.
Simply beautiful trip...
I've hiked in this area (Old Durr Road) in the past. It's very pretty in the spring with wildflowers.
Cette fois, j'ai apprécié votre test et reportage vidéo. Vous avez très expliquer les pneus embarqués, les aptitudes de la voitures sans jamais essayé de la mettre à la faute. Au contraire, vous avez même expliqué comment passer un obstacle en reculant et en prenant de l'élan pour éviter que la voiture reste sur 2 roues. Merci beaucoup. Dans un mois, je vend mon rav4 awd et le revois le kia sportage x awd. J'espère que vous ferez un reportage semblable. Bonne continuation
I always encourage my Rav4 when driving too 😊
I have a 2023 RAV4 TRD and I love it! Yes I will admit it’s quite a bit for a RAV4 but it’s a great vehicle I think you get your bang for the buck!
Fun video, thx!
I had an XLE that was awesome for overlanding, but it had its limits on terrain like this. I had to be rescued once or twice when I tackled some of the stuff you encountered. In the hands of a more skilled driver I may have been fine, but for anything more than that I'd definitely recommend a 4Runner. You make it look easy.
I would love to hear or SEE if the wilderness' extra bit of clearance would make a difference on this trail. I heard the rav4 scrape a little.
Btw, best you have the best and most informative videos out there! Keep up the hard work
... And now time for a wheel alignment ...
Chassis overhaul lol
can you run this same track with the Subaru Crosstrek Wilderness?
Anything the RAV can run through, a Crosstrek can too with more ease. If you want a Toyota and need more capability, just do a 4runner.
I’ve driven my Crosstrek through 8 inches of unplowed snow (as a result of poor planning for my drive home from work) with no issues. It’s scary sometimes.
If you try hard enough, anything gets stuck, but the Crosstrek is superior here.
Especially on this channel lol He could make Crosstrek go up Everest 🙂@@traviscollins3249
Crosstrek is vastly superior in these conditions.
NO problem.
100%
And for the XLe trim, RAV4 all-wheel-drive, I found out with mud sand mobile all that it had sport mode, sport mode tournament, track off, hold the button and lock it in second gear, and it let the wheels spin like crazy all four of them
Great trip. You tested off-road, have lunch break. RAV4 is very capable, but 99% of them will not leave the asphalt roads. Great review. Greetings
I know that it's basically "gone", but you should get your hands on the Cherokee Trailhawk and do some of your testing, or an adventure in it, as I feel it's the most capable, in the class, and would love to see how much better it is, compared to vehicles, such as the TRD, the Wilderness, etc. Keep up the good work, Ryan! We all appreciate it.
I think the RAV-4 is the perfect overall means of transportation. Especially if you use it as a daily highway driver and value your gas mileage. And of course if you live in a snow belt, not so smooth roads and understand the car’s limitations.
The 4Runner is a great truck in its own right. If you can afford the gas and the overall cost of ownership, then by all means, buy one. But keep in mind that it’s a purpose-built vehicle and I’m sure many will want to modify their 4Runners (suspension/body lifts, super swampers, yada yada). Not the greatest on the highway though.
I’d love to take that trail / road in my 11 Ford Ranger 4WD. Yes it has skid plates, just for fun.
No I wouldn’t take it in my Forester Touring or my wife’s Outback (no skid plates on either one), but our Ranger would be fun
Appreciate your dedication to finding an area this model and trim excels. I'm always surprised (and a little sad) when Honda Pilots are more capable 😢
I'd pay to hear Toyota explain / excuse the overheating issue 😏
I can do it for you. Almost all generic all_wheel_drive cars/crossovers, except Subarus, uses separate multiple clutch units to connect rear(or front in case of BMW/Merc/Porshe) axle. These units located at the end of driveshaft near rear diff and have half a gallon working fluid(give or take) with dedicated pump to create pressure and connect/disconnect driveshaft to rear differential. Engaging this clutch creates friction between plates which in turn creates heat. There are no radiators for this rear clutch units so heat dissipates slowly. If awd is engaged for long excessive heat becomes critical and system shuts down to prevent damaging components like pump, seals, electronics etc. Borg Warner AWD couplings are good example, Toyota uses very similar ones. Subaru has incorporated its AWD multiple clutch unit inside automatic transmission(CVT in current models), and uses transmission fluid to engage/disengage clutches. Transmissions have lots of fluid (3 gallons or more) and often dedicated radiators to cool it down. So its most unlikely to get Subaru AWD to overheat unlike all crossover competitors.
Well, it's certainly something that they could reasonably resolve with a transmission cooler.
@@eskieman3948 The Rav4 TRD Off-Road and Adventure models already have transmission coolers. That's how they are rated at 3500lb tow capacity.
@@Ukrainian_Matchstickthat's not an excuse for designing, building, and installing/ having a drive system that easily overheats and fails on you.
That's just some of the reason why it fails🙄😅
@@RRr-yl8zr Fuel economy is their excuse. Audi used to install proper mechanical central diffs in their cars, one called Torsen, which always provides awd and dont overheat. But now they shift towards system like in my first comment supplied by Haldex, under the designation quattro ultra. Its probably saves 2-3% of fuel coz of less friction loses.
Its a shame that Ryan cant(or won't) test some Audis, Q5 or Q7 for exmple. As for VW Touareg, which is also equipped with Torsen based awd, you guys just dont get it in North America at all for some unknown reason. Its sad, coz it would have been great to see Ryan testing it instead of ridiculous Atlas or in addition to it.
Hehehe, Weenus. Sorry, great video!
I miss Ellensburg man.
New 4Runner 😊😊
Ryan, The more you show us the RAV4 TRD Off-Road on trails like this, the more sense the 4Runner SR5 makes. 😉
@9:20 I imagine the suspension was bad 🤣 but at least they had great ground clearance 🙊😜
I had a 23 Toyota RAV4 XLe premium. AWD I learned if you lock it in first gear, you have a lot more slip availability. I wonder how the Trd off-road RAV4 would do if you put the eight speed in number one cause I used to take mine in the dunes, literally at the beach and it used to rev up and spin all four tires just fine and never cut power and I didn’t do no modifications to it. It was a stock XLE premium on straight tires
Out of all the cars. This car suit you and most
This would make a good daily
Hows cellphone reception there?
😅
I use to go mountain biking for exercise
How much better would this do by having say KO2's vs the M&S tires?
I go up to the southern California mountains a decent amount but that's about it for rough terrain. Slopes, general snow (normally under 6 inches) and some trail driving
Ryan I love your videos. I think I want to tackle this road next. What tires would you personally recommend for the trail?
Any trail or AT should be fine. Watch for the mud ruts tho. Easy to high center if you don’t have a lot of ground clearance.
If the RAV4 was a bit more refined in terms of interior comfort, noise levels, engine noise, etc. I probably would have bought one when my current lease is up. I'm curious what the next redesign will bring but I also feel that they'll ditch the non-hybrid options which would lose the good awd system option.
The hybrid awd system is better and you get twice the mileage. The regular systems only advantage is that it is cheaper.
for 3k USD between the corolla cross hybrid and the rav4 hybrid trims that i want, the list of features the rav4 wins on is pretty long, such as all of the different traction mode settings and the heated steering wheel. the rav4 is spooking me with how large it is, but its footprint is actually only 4 square feet larger than CCH. i just dunno if it will fit in my tiny city alleyway garage!
Great way to start the weekend! Great review
Id like to see him review the expedition
Crosstrek Wilderness, please.
Thanks for the review! It wd be nice to know the speed u were driving on the rocks and muddy road.
I always wondering if the Trd with battering all-wheel-drive if you put it in first gear or second gear what will it do? I knew when I started fiddling with the all-wheel-drive system on mine drive it would bog down like no tomorrow, but it was a world of difference when I locked it into first or second year with that eight speed it was a completely different animal drive though it didn’t want to go nowhere it just wanted to sit in bog. Its power down didn’t have enough power to do it while in just drive you had to put it in manual shift first and second, that was a sweep spot for the all-wheel-drive
In my opinion, the TRD reputation is negatively affected when used as a marketing tool as it is in this case.
seems the way home would be more challenging, any footage to add on later?
I was wondering what drone are you guys using? The footage from above is stunning!
DJI Air 3. Best price/features you can get right now.
Awesome! Thanks for sharing! @@drivingsports
too late...seeing it overheated and failed to compete with the subaru crosstrek made me change my mind over Rav4 and bought a crosstrek instead.
That’s a great choice. I love their brand. Certainly have come a good way just the last couple of years. Toyota and Honda take notes
My thoughts exactly, but for 99.9% of buyers it will be more than good enough for going to the grocery store. When they are being used as off road beaters in 15 or 20 years, that's when the AWD overheating will become a problem.
Crosstrek Wilderness is King. Just took delivery of mine last week and love it in Sunblaze Pearl.
@@alsheremetawhy pay all the extra money for "good enough for going to the store "🙄😅
How about doing this with a minimum 2" lift, seems like it would be worth it for a suv like this.
But what was the problem at 12:40, it does not look too steep or deep, not good enough programing, or clutches too weak and programming cut off power to keep them from overheating? The AWD can't work just sometimes, maybe Toyota would say Rav4 is not meant to be in this much difficulty
That was not that "difficult" 🙄
@@RRr-yl8zr exactly, i agree
Thanks for this excellent demo of the RAV4's capabilities in relatively difficult off-road conditions. I'm leaning towards getting a RAV4 Hybrid because of its high gas milage, but I'm very curious to hear your opinion on whether there's another SUV in the same size and price class as the RAV4 Hybrid that performs better off road but gets the same fuel economy? I'll be using the vehicle for long freeway commutes 8 months a year and dispersed camping road trips on public lands all over the Western US 4 months a year. So I care about gas milage too much to buy a 4Runner or a Bronco. I think the Subaru Crosstrek Hybrid's rear cargo area is probably too small for my road trips, but I'll check it out. Is there anything else worth considering among hybrid SUVs that can get 38+ MPG on the freeway?
Standard Crosstrek has great MPG for full time AWD and doesn’t have the penalty for space like the hybrid. Seats on the newest crosstrek are also more comfortable.
Thanks for the info!@@drivingsports
Is it softer than adventure rav4?
Would you choose this rav4 or a prime for daily use and weekend warrior trips?
But I just wanted to see if you done that with the Trd cause I was thinking about one day getting a Trd off-road, but the torque battering all wheel drive. I’m just wondering if it’s better to have open all-wheel-drive for the amount of power the Trd has as well as RAV4 at 205 hp I’m just not for sure if it got enough to really take advantage of the torque veteran, but I was kind of thinking about the TRD off-road RAV 4 next I just don’t know if you ever actually locked it in first or second gear in turn all the event tracks off and left it in normal mode. I would really like to see a video of that to get an idea of how that work compared to what I had.
Good shix
4 runner
What are you doing in the Umtaenum I recognized that immediately.
As Im watching this I kept thinking to myself, 'how do all these drive modes and AWD tech really compare to say, my stock 2009 4Runner?' Does the latest AWD technology match or beat a conventional old school 4WD? I feel like good ol articulation and a solid axle is still your best bet.
I don't think any AWD system can match the reliability and capabilities of a 4wd.
NO, except for maybe on the street. or when on a dirt road that is Not "too Harsh" or Steep. The AWD can have some benefits. (Moving different amounts of power two different Wheels when needed etc.)But when things Get "harsher" the AWD systems can't handle it. They can over heat and cut power/shut down. Have "driveline" problems/damage. and they don't "lock in" and deliver constant, "locked in/geared" split of power front to back like 4wheel drive does. But the subaru and ford bronco Sport AWD can do good for a lot of uses and get a better ride and better gas mileage. But who can trust a product...
@driving sports tv Any plan to do Nissan Rogue e4orce for this test?
Nissan hasn't been proactive about getting us cars. No idea on that one.
You seem to really like and enjoy the rav4. No wonder these r so hard to find. I don’t blame you it’s like a toy that doesn’t do anything extraordinary but you still love playing with it
Which do you prefer the cross track or the Toyota TRD
Looks like the Rav 4 TRD has quite a bit of capability.
Needs to catchup with Mazdas and Subarus. This patch of route was something of a slight challenge. If it couldn’t do this, that would be pretty disappointing
@@martinr8278 This kind of trail is more than 99% of owners will ever tackle or consider, so I think it's just fine as is.
@@ALMX5DP😅
A decent softroader.
I saw the new Rav4 hybrid woodland overland in ukraine in deep mud, wow did a amazing jog. It is on youtube.
When is Toyota gonna put some smaller wheels and beefier tires on this thing and make it a baby 4runner
Is this road one way? I have never seen someone either pass you or try to go the other way while you are filming?
It is two way. Traffic is rare, but it happens.
That seems to be a bit overpriced for just a rav4.
What made me nervous about it was seeing how when you hit that little trench area in the road that the TRD rear driver side wheel that was up in the are looks like it was just spinning and spinning the brakes weren't clamping down and sending the power where it needed to go 🤔
The 18-in rims are just ridiculous and stupid, that thing needs 16 inch rims.
How does it stuck up against the Outback ?
Outback is better.
@@drivingsportsOutback in general or Wilderness and/or other trims?
@@ES-qt6yo depends on use, but I think in general the XT Outbacks are better buys than the RAV4 (with the exception of MPGs versus the hybrid.)
Between this, the RAV4 Adventure, and the hybrid Woodland, which one is the most capable off road? And, do you think any of them is as off road capable as the Subaru Crosstrek Wilderness?
The TRD it is the most capable. But no, I think the Crosstrek wilderness is better built for off-road adventures… if you can fit everything into the smaller vehicle.
What would be the Canadian equivalent trim of the Rav4 TRD Off Road? I went on the Toyota Canada website, but cannot find it. Also, I think I know the answer to this question, considering you own a Crosstrek, and after watching all your videos of comparison, but if you had to choose between a 2024 Crosstrek Wilderness and a Toyota Rav4 (regardless of which trim), which would you get and in one short sentence why?
The Adventure. But I think it doesn’t have AT tires. Does have the same rear drive unit.
I don't think they have one called The Adventure, I think the closest trim for off-road is the RAV4 Hybrid Woodland only because in the details it shows it has a TRD Tuned Off Road Suspension, but not sure of the other trims.
@@Veeetz sorry that was the American predecessor to the TRD. The RAV4 Trail is the equivalent Canadian model. www.toyota.ca/toyota/en/build-price/rav4?series=RAV&year=2024&model=J1RFVT
The RAV IS more expensive but outsells all of Subaru’s line up each year . I wonder why.
Name brand recognition. A reputation for reliability which may be true but also may be dropping some with Toyota. Quite possibly better gas mileage with Toyota ? And because most car buyers don't bother to do their due diligence and and research how a car performs before they buy it. Also because most people buying an SUV are just doing it to be posers instead of buying a Honda civic, Honda Accord, Toyota corolla, etc.
I just got my rav 4 today. I also looks at the subuwus right b4. Very similar is price. Reason i ended up buying the rav 4 was literally just on looks. I go camping and go off road but not very often. I live in CA but also like going to joshua tree, and up into the mountains nothing crazy. The rav 4 compared to the subi (just on looks) was much much nicer. I th8nk that if i were a avid adventurer and very often too it offroading id probably buy a subi. But also, ive only ever had toyotas and they have given me 0 problems even after the 200k mile mark.
12:40 Pretty sure you would have gone through that the first time if Dirt and Rock mode was selected...
Did you have another vehicle with you on this trip?
I thought that too! Seemed a little risky with the sun dropping and possibly no cell service…
The Bronco Sport/Maverick AWD system feels like it's significantly better.
I don't know about significantly better. but it does look like the Ford system functions better for a rough dirt road. But it's a Ford, so it is also overpriced and can you trust the reliability / safety of a Ford... I Can't
Great video. I still say id take a Forester Wilderness over this any day.
Hey Ryan,
In all honesty, which vehicle is better:
A RAV4 TRD or a Subaru Forester Wilderness?
I know that both of them have good points and bad points, but which one would you choose to take this trip in All seasons?
Forester
@@hynsum Are you Ryan?
If so how come?
@Doc1855of
@@Doc1855Of course I am not. Just my opinion.
@@hynsum I respect that
Would a LIFT kit void the warranty? Or are there some lift kits that are RECOMMENDED for this model?
Lifts on these type of vehicles can cause extra stress on the CV joints. (Joints that connect shafts to the wheels.) People still do them. Warranty is voided if an incident occurs possibly caused by the modification.
Warranty of what? If you're sunroof stops working, your case won't get declined because you lifted your TRD (doesn't sound very good lol) couple of inches..
@@kevinstarski1598They could blame added flex from suspension warped sunroof. They try to find anything to avoid warranty repair.
@@kevinstarski1598 I have heard it's not necessarily that your entire bumper to bumper warranty is voided. But, if a part goes wrong that could potentially be attributed to the modification, then they can void it. My guess is anything to do with suspension, steering, drivelines, axles, etc. Seems like a lot of gray area, and a lot will depend on the dealer's determinations.
Aftermarket warranty perhaps...factory warranty typically aren't looking for any reason to void it unless it's legitimate@@ryanb8736
Ryan needs put on some Oakley or Ray-Ban!
Pit Vipers. 😂
Who's flying the drone?
Better than CRV and xtrail??
Way more capable, yes.
From what of seen the Honda HRV and CRV Both have hondas "sub-standard" AWD system. It does not do as good on a rough road as the toyota does. And Neither of them seem to do as good "off road" as the Subarus or or the Ford Bronco SPORT/baby bronco. But I don't trust fords reliability or safety ...
I own this car. The first thing I had to do is replace the fake off road tires which have only about 1/4" of tread, for the real Falken tires, which are severe snow rated. The stock tires are not snow rated. Shame on Toyota for putting these 01 tires on this vehicle. The real Falken tires are not noisy, and handle much better in the snow.
This and other toyota World vehicles is why the World buys them above all on every continent.
Quality shouldn't have to be a goal, it should be a way of life. TOYOTA
Good God, don't cry.
Except for people who need better performance /functioning with their SUV. And people that don't want to be amazingly overcharged 🤪
The price of a RAV4 TRD OR I just buy a used 4Runner.
Better decision
All depends on what your wants, needs and priorities are. This is fine for the suburbanite who may see an occasional short stretch such as this on their way to a destination. 4Runner seems more for those who want to regularly see this kind of use.
Also depends on how much daily driving. I'd definitely take this over a 4runner if I had to drive more than 10miles for my daily commute or if I did lots of highway miles.
Ford expedition
4Runners suck as a daily
The way the vehicle rolls back when it loses traction, it's almost as if there's no traction control or the wheel slip sensors are really low quality.
sunglasses help
My Forester Wilderness beats the RAV4 TRD and cheaper. Even Toyota dealership acknowledges that Subaru AWD is just better.
Well beats it except for maybe on reliability, gas mileage and acceleration...😕
I’ll take the daily advantages of the better gas mileage, reliability and accelerating of the RAV4 over the twice a year need for better AWD.
@@RRr-yl8zrTrue, excellent points.
@@Redhawk24not me. When I get an SUV / 4X / all-wheel drive AWD, it's because I'm going to be going down some nasty dirt roads and don't want to get stuck or broken down or blocked from getting to where I want go. If I didn't care about that I just get a Buick or a mini van 😅😁
@@Martin944turbobut I would still probably get a Subaru cross Trac sport or wilderness before a rave 4.
I just wish they the Crosstrek wilderness or sport was a bit faster, got a bit better gas mileage and was the size of a Subaru Forester. 😅😁
Totally UNREMARKABLE.........
Heh, weenus valley
Should RAV4 really wear a TRD OFF-ROAD badge?
Beautiful trip and drone footage tho. 👍❤️
I don't think so. Not unless it had a full time awd/4wd system like Jeep has.
It should be able to beat a Ford bronco sport Badlands and a Subaru wilderness model or even a Subaru sport model. But it can't even keep up with those "off road". Toyota should be embarrassed and ashamed by this especially from the company that makes forerunners and at the price they are charging for these things 😮🙄
Watch Ryan take the RAV4 TRD Off-Road on a mountain adventure and see if it ends up needing a tow to the summit!
It did great
Crosstrek is better but still under powered