Nikon Z5 VS Z6 | What to do? | Matt Irwin
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- Опубліковано 30 лип 2024
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You might be wondering ... do I get a Nikon Z5 or a Z6?
I mean they look the same, they must be the same ..... ?
Right ... ?
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This channel has become a safe heaven for Nikon shooters that wants to have a peaceful place from all the negative fuss and unbalanced dumptalks against Nikon from the UA-cam world. I am greatful for the existence of this channel as well as other youtube channels that provides a balanced view towards Nikon despite the uninformed, unbalanced, and lens throwing reviews from other big names in photography. Matt, your channel saved me from creating a financially destructive decision of shifting to other brands and makes me believe on Nikon's future. I'm getting the Z50 with FTZ first and hopefully stepping in to the full frame system soon.
Thanks for sharing Carjascaps. Indeed it is a difficult ocean of opinion and thoughts out there at the moment. But Nikon make great gear, and I really enjoy all of my Z cameras. This is really how I feel. Thanks so much. Cheers Matt
You wont be disappoint with the z50. I have one myself and I just love it!
And you are absolutely correct. I've unsubcribed from almost all other channels because they mostly only say negative things ALL the time! It's tiring...
I actually don't even think of this channel as a Nikon channel - I just come here to listen to Matt's latest musings.
@@fellowcitizen it was actually his content that make me subscribe to his channel. He got all the wisdoms that younger and much bigger names in UA-cam doesn't have. I too doesn't consider this as a Nikon channel but rather as a channel for all photographers who doesn't care what brands they are using. Matt, compared to much bigger names in youtube are much open to all brands and possibilities. This is where I first knew about Nikon Z's lens adaptability to almost all brands which is one thing that majority of reviewers overlooked.
Avoid the Nikon Z mirrorless Facebook forum. it is awful!
The tale of two Aussie Matts and their Nikon videos:
Matt 1: Goodbye Nikon (makes a clickbait video because he's finally selling off his old depreciating junk that he doesn't use anyway)
Matt 2: Nikon Z5 vs Z6 (offers a logical and useful information to potential buyers, no clickbait, no open-mouth thumbnails, high value stuff)
Please never change, Matt, and I will keep promoting your videos. I believe you can succeed this way and grow to 500,000 subscribers by the end of next year!
WOW I hope so :) My estimate would be a little smaller. But thank you for the promotion. :) Much appreciated Geek. :)
I had to chuckle about Matt 1 selling his gear and a day later the 70-200 2.8 S started shipping. Plus he made a 50mm video this week, as was suggestion not to shoot wide open, and again he did not have the Z 50mm 1.8 S as part of the mix. And lens that just loves being at wide open apertures .... ah
@@MattIrwinPhotography Frankly, Matt started out his channel in a similar way like you and then chose the clickbait route. His latest videos are mostly of low value from my point of view. I unsubscribed years ago and just saw that video a few days ago and was not surprised. If you check his social blade, his subscriber growth is very low this year, his views are up but mainly driven by old content that is searched or recommended. They say you can recognize how many fans a channel really has by the videos with the lowest views. Check some of his latest Live shows, the lowest has 2400 views, most are around 5000 views. These are his true fans, the rest is all algorithm and gear videos that attract brand zealots from all over UA-cam. He also has a lot of videos where he's putting beautiful Asian women in the thumbnail, often scantily clad or sprayed by water etc. This always bothered me, and looked inappropriate to me, and we know what kind of viewership it attracts. I have to add that my better half is Taiwanese, so it offends me personally.
The Z 50mm is as good as the Zeiss Otus some tests have shown, and the Zeiss costs like 6 times more. I guess it's not something big UA-camrs want to push, saying nonsense like "Nikon is dead" seems to generate more clicks.
I really dislike those clickbait heading. Selling my Nikon gear, but not replacing it!
Absolutely true.
Matt Irwin Photography he better not review anything Nikon. I will verbally shit on him.
I’m a z6 user. I’ve had Nikon’s for 25 years. The z6 will probably satisfy me for the next 5 years. I doubt I’ll ever shoot to it’s full potential. Some of the best shots I’ve taken didn’t rely on specs or sensors at all. We are so spoilt with image quality these days, camera body choice doesn’t really make too much of a difference. Thanks again for the good content. 👍🏻
Pleasure sir. Thanks for being here. :)
I am a Sony user with a Sony A7III and a Sony A9 and I am primarily a photographer with only a little use of video, and with the Sony A9 I am also covered for several years, so I understand your thoughts regarding the purchase of a new camera .....
Cheers Jess
Im a proud olympus owner, not sure what that has to do with you, or your ability or feelings about your favourite gear.
I also like chocolate. Thanks again
Keep up the good work Matt, I am so sick of all the utube naysayers on about the demise of Nikon, I have used Nikon for 40 years and recently went mirrorless with the Z7 and Z6.
Absolutely love them, the quality and glass is a different class.
Yes Douglas, I agree, and it is interesting most people who are critical have not actually used the system or the glass. I love my Z6 and Z7 too. Cheers Matt
i agree! i shot with Sony, Canon, and Nikon. Love the Nikon body and ergonomic more on the Nikon. Been shooting Nikon since I was able to reach the top shelf of my parents closet (with a chair) when I was 10. I love it and never had a problem. Just got the Z5 with my D750 and it’s a great combo!
Nikon just shut down all their authorized repair centers across NA
The very day I decide to start measuring these things up for purchase later this year, this video is uploaded. You da realest.
You’re right Matt! Nikon Z5 IS great for weddings, events, street and portraits! Just got mine and it’s great and it’s affordable! Thank you Nikon for adding back the second card slot 🙌
Hi Matt, Thanks for been so up beet. Make me feel better. I am starting to look at butting my hand in my pocket for a Z8/9 with 105mm S Macro, 14-300mm S, 24mm-70mm f2.8 S and 70mm-200mm f2.8 S. but then My pockets will be lighter.
Yep if you get all that, it will be quite a party. Let us all know when you do it. Very exciting. Cheers Matt
Thank you for your thoughts. I have never worried about dual card slots and I have been very happy with mine
No I am not worried either Martin when using CF express / XQD. Cheers Matt
Thank you very much Matt. Your info continues to be knowledgeable and well thought out.
Cheers Steve. :)
Great video again Matt, love your work mate.
Thank you Richard, this image is stunning ua-cam.com/video/2KxQO9qtcN4/v-deo.html
Every time I see a click bait doom and gloom I post - go watch Matt Irwin for some real information
Cheers Blythe. :)
Thanks for this comparison.
What would you choose between a Nikon Z5 bundle with the 24-200mm lens or a Nikon Z6 with the FTZ adapter if they are both priced similarly. I’ve got 2 older lenses that can work with the FTZ adapter: a Nikon 50mm F1.8 prime and a Sigma 17-50mm f2.8. I broke my older 18-200mm zoom lens which I used alot and I wanted to get a new one anyways which made the choice pretty tough.
I don’t shoot video but my only issue with the Z5 is the 4.5 FPS. My older DSLR shoots at 4 FPS and I would have loved a nice jump over that.
I have a couple of shoots planned in the next few weeks with friends for engagement shoots etc. I was planning on getting a Z6 before this as I currently only have a Fuji xt3 and 85mm viltrox lens. Would it be silly to buy a Z6 before Z6S comes out? it should be noted I also get staff discount of 12.5% off Z6 and Z lenses currenttly out. No Z5 option yet. Hope that makes sense!
I am thinking to go for Nikon Z7. Its a high pixel camera & my hands are not very steady & the usage will be fully handheld, so I am worried whether it will be subject to camera shake due to that. However it has good IBIS & I will be using faster shutter speed & EFCS. Kindly advise whether should I go for Z7 (interested due to its sharpness in the absence of AA filter) or some other lower pixel camera like Z6.
I have a Nikon z6ii and I’m in the market to buy a backup camera should I get the z6 or the z5?
Thank sir as usual! Personally I’m saving for the Z 7s and the Z 70-200 2.8. They’ll cost me a fortune and exactly why the need to work 60+ hrs work week. To each their own! Thank you for your advices and please keep them coming!
The cost will be worth it in outstanding performance for the decade to come :)
I couldn’t agree more, summed it up perfectly 👍👍
Cheers Garry.
Thank you so much for the review and neutral point of view. I fully agree with the comparison and have just purchased my Z6 :)
Nice video sharing , I had the prob of Z5 or Z6 and I love the way u are so clear about it
Cheers Wee, which one do you think you will go for? Cheers matt
Would you recommend Z6 over Z5 if I can get the Z6 for 1550$ this week? 1950$ with FTZ and 64GB QXD. I was about to get the Z5 but it is still out of Stock and the final price remains mystery...
Depending on your needs either the Z5 or Z6 might be a good choice. Based on my current needs I would probably choose the Z5 over the Z6 though it is a near coin toss if I was going to buy a full-frame camera. Excellent summary of the strengths and weaknesses of each.
Jay you know your usecase, certainly get what works for you. :) Cheers Matt
Thank you Matt for your fair, open minded and logical comparison of the new Z5. I have just watched another Nikon shooter/youtuber who has yet to touch the camera and says he doesn't plan to, yet goes on about why it's not a good camera vs. the Z6 and (yes) the Z50 for his "community" who wants to improve their photography.
You sir are level headed and recognizes the general public's needs and wants. You lay out the pros of each camera and let "us" decide.
With that said, I am torn between the Z6, Z5 and D780 (for existing AF-D lens compatibility). I may get two of the three but not all, that would be silly, kind of a diverse redundancy, haha.
Thank you AIL. :). If budget permits I would go the 780 and wait on the z6s, I think you will have two extraordinary cameras at that point :)
Love my Z6 and as a hobbyist the system gives so much value. Looking forward to your thoughts on the 70-200 when it finally arrives at its new home.
Hopefully only 5 days to go until it arrives. Cheers Matt
I heard the lcd resolution on the z5 is terrible compared to the z6 lcd screen is that true ?
What about the noisy playback on the z5 evf??? In dark scenes
Are the viewfinders exactly the same?
yep
Z7 here. Arrived on the first day of lockdown back in March, so only just starting to use it in anger. Loving it though.
I was about to grab a 6 when the 5 was announced - so I paused to do some research - and I chose the 6 (with the amazing 24-70 f4 S lens). Like you said, the difference in price right now is just too close. The Z6 is the best camera I've ever owned.
The trickier thing for me was the 6s - I absolutely want one. But given other shipping delays we're seeing, I didn't want to gamble on its release date (nor do I want to pay full release date price). So I'm in a great spot now, no regrets, no urgency at all waiting for new models. 🙂
As a wedding shooter the two card slots are an absolute must for me. I've had too many cards over the past 15 years go bad at events to take any chances. I don't shoot video so the downgraded video is not an issue for me. As you said the BSI is not a huge issue unless you are shooting a crazy ISO (I typically don't have to go past 3200). I love the fact that I can get into a fullframe mirrorless with two card slots for this price. When the Z6s is released I'll probably get a couple of those and the Z5 will become my second shooter main or another backup. Looking forward to getting this in my hands though! Thanks for the in-depth review and thoughts!
Funny - I'm not by any means a professional photographer but as an avid amateur I have saved on various hard drives around the place over digital 250,000 images collected over almost 20 years of shooting digital) images - not to mention those deleted (in camera or on post process). I guess I must be extremely lucky - I have never has a single CF or SD card fail (electronically that is - I accidentally dropped a granite hearth on a CF card once and destroyed it ) one card even survived a trip trough a full cycle of the washing machine when I forgot to take it out of my jeans pocket.
Nice video, cheers Matt.
Thank you 😁
The Z5 (body only) will probably be for me for the time being, mostly for landscapes without video, probably a better lens as this will be my first foray into mirrorless. I love my 750 and 850. If my old age can handle the newer tech, I'll move up to the Z7.
Great choice Kurt, if video is not a priority, I see no reason not to get the Z5.
The Z5 is a great entry point to the Nikon Z mirrorless. I love my D5600 and will consider the z5 as an upgrade path soon. I want the z6ii or the z6 but the xqd/CF cards are hard to find here in PH so Z5 it is. Overall, both are great!
Great review Matt. I think the Z5 is underrated, and will end up being an incredably popular camera, similar to the D750, which it is really the mirrorless equivalent. In the us, there is a trade in $100 off making it around $1600 with the kit lens, $1300 body only. Compare this to the D750, when it came out, its way cheaper. Combine this with the z50mm, and the kit 24 - 50, and its a wonderful events cmera for a tad over $2k. It has the same basic sensor as the D750, IBIS, EVF, great 1080p video with AF, small, touch screen, dual slots,, and a gateway into the Z system. For events, 2 bodies are important, and if you want to stick with the high quality z glass, its really a great starter option. If I had to choose the best affordable events camera on the market today, I would choose the z5. Canon and Sony have nothing with these features unless you go used.
The z6 is quite a bit more as the cards and reader add a few $100, and the Kit lens is a bit more. It will not shoot events any better (except for the video crowd which I do not include). I have been to so many smaller weddings, where there is a solo photographer, with a flash and bounce card, 2 bodies (Prime and short zoom) and they only shoot photos for the event and reception for a few hundred $. I know there are those large weddings that have videographers, multiple shooters etc, but these larger lavish weddings are fading, along with department stores, bridal registries, big gowns etc. Now people post thier pics in instagram, view on a smart speaker/display, and save the money for a house down payment.
Nikon was very smart when they introduced the z50, although the critics slammed it for having the z mount. (Canon is rumored to be killing the M cameras in favor of an R mount APSC)
For those that want a FF family camera, then the Z5 is a compelling upgrade from a smart phone, but phones have a strong hold here, and Nikon will struggle with any camera thats not in your pocket/purse.
Overall I am extremely happy that Nikon has introduced the Z5 at this time as its sales will keep the lights on as they develop better high end cameras. With the exception of a few boutique manufacturers, nobody makes money off flagship cameras, as the sales are not great, and the development costs are huge. The high volume cameras that benefit from the high end feature developments is where all the money comes from. This camera is definitely a sleeper. A year from now, Sony and Canon will be playing catch-up in this space.
Hey Matt, a very interesting and timely topic. As a Z6 user, not so much if I had a Z6s, I see the Z5 as being a sweet backup camera to the Z6. Mostly because of what you outlined so eloquently: the two card slots. For the photographer who might shoot the occasional wedding, or event, you might want to pull the Z5 out of the toolbox instead of the Z6 all the while not really sacrificing much and gaining the added security of two card slots.
Great application sir :)
I've the z6 and recently got the z5 as my second body love it! Works great, I thought I will ve issues with the 4.5 fps but man its really fast ,chgd the burst mode and works great! I vent tried video yet though
Picked up a Z6 about a month ago. Couldn't be happier. Solids shots, great camera.
Yeah Dave, I love mine for all sorts of things :) What is your fav lens?? Cheers Matt
@@MattIrwinPhotography I have an AF-P 70-300E that is working really well. Wait for the pocketbook to recover, then I'll jump on a 14-30.
The Z5 also uses cheaper cards, but otherwise you are right in your thoughts about what is the best buy!
Cheers Jess
Nice going mate. You will easily become a quality Nikon guide. Put out some "How to get the best out of your... Camera / lens" stuff as well.
Great thinking, added to the list. Thanks sir :). Cheers Matt
Is there any difference in AF today
Can't wait for your review on 70-200 mm. Hope you'll enjoy shooting it as much as it possible!
Thanks Mati, might be mid next week. And then I can hit my 5km radius whilst exercising for one hour :) (lockdown style)
Saving up and waiting for either the Z6S or Z7S, most likely Z6S. Currently using the D7200 which for most of my needs is working fine, just don't like the DX lens selection and think the Z mount lenses are the way to go.
Good call Mark, they are all fantastic so far. No disappointments from my perspective. Cheers Matt
Hi Matt... do you have already a first look on the Z6 ii? Canon R5 or wait for the II version? On Wednesday we will know more...
I would wait for the Z6 II before you do anything else at this point :)
@@MattIrwinPhotography thx a lot for your hint... I got it 😎
Matt you kind of crystallise my on thoughts. When the Z6s/7s hit the streets, will those added capabilities be worth the stretch or will that be the time to pick up the last of the outgoing cameras at bargain prices. Again the time to pick up a Z5 will be in the new year when prices are likely to be sub $1000(US).
Yeah David, hard to say, I think the Z6 is priced well now, and it may get cheaper ... so it may be hard to choose Z5, Z6 or Z6s ....
As things stand, price-wise, the only real compelling advantage the Z5 has over the Z6 is two SD card slots instead of one XQD/CFX slot (maybe data out pins for a proper vertical grip). It would be a tougher comparison if one couldn't pick up a Z6 for almost the same price as a new Z5.
Once Z5 prices are discounted, it will make a great back up or event FX Z body.
Yes it will be an amazing 35mm 2nd camera for everybody and anybody, and a primary for most :)
Z6.. Expensive card, no body have in pc.. Can I access to the Card by USB ? Z5 470 shots, Z6 330.
Hi Matt - for my needs, I would never consider the Z5 but your placement of it in the lineup makes sense. One thing your viewers might want to know that I don’t think you mentioned, is that Z5 also has the same IBIS as the Z6/7. I think getting IBIS at this price point for an entry level camera is a real bargain. In NA, the 5/6 price difference is about $400 US. I’d agree that you get a lot more camera with the Z6. Cheers
@carlmarch603
WHY do you refer to the Z5 as an "entry level" camera? Is there some sort of advanced intellect required to operate a Z6 or Z7?
What makes the Z6 or Z7 a NON entry level camera?
Do they afford superior features that I'm not aware of other than pixelation (not detectable by the human eye unless blown up many MANY times) or burst fps (possibly used if you go to a lot of car or horse races)?
I'm truly curious as to what, exactly, makes the Z5 "entry level" in YOUR eyes. I don't pay attention to the vloggers that call it such as they have skin in the game thus motivation to shame the Z5.
Z6 with 24-105 F4 and the 100-400... so great for travel! Just sold my Z6, waiting for the Z6s! But I kept my 14-30 and my FTZ adaptor! Ready for 2021 ;)
Great moves :) We wait for the Z6s. Cheers Matt
@@MattIrwinPhotography Still have my D850... just in case LOL
I’m hoping when the z6s comes out they pair it with the 24-200 instead of the 24-70. That’s one advantage the z5 has right now in my opinion is a more versatile kit lens.
Here in this country there are a few options that come and go. Sometimes the 50mm, sometimes the 24-70 f4 or the 24-70 2.8 . Anything is possible. :)
Hello Matt, I still haven’t had the opportunity to try the new 70-200mm f/2.8 S just yet, but I managed to pick up the two new teleconverters yesterday. This weekend is going to be beautiful here in the Northeast, and it’s a long holiday weekend as well, so I should be able to make some photos. I’ll let you know my impression next week.
Please Guy, would love to hear what you think of it. Cheers Matt
Off the main subject a bit. I picked up my Nikon 70-200 2.8s yesterday. I ordered it from my local camera last January! It is an amazing piece of technology! I will use this lens on my Z6 for a dance rehearsal in an outdoor amphitheater on Monday (Labor Day). It will be in the upper 90's (F) tomorrow, in the low 90's on Labor Day and we will have snow in Denver, Colorado on Tuesday. Crazy!
Wow Stan, on the weather, and the lens. Congrats on the lens, love to hear how it goes. Cheers Matt
I hope to move from Sony to Nikon one of these days. Don't know when but one of these days.
Well I think we are going to have some exciting announcements in the Z6s and Z7s, could be very interesting times. Cheers matt
@@MattIrwinPhotography Brilliant. Can't wait for the news. Cheers Peter
Yea, I'm of the same opinion that except for the two card slots, z6 is more attractive. Actually, if we take into consideration all the accessories packed in bundle of z5 & z6, the price of z6 body seems cheaper or at least same as that of z6.
Is z6 100% compatible with CF Express?
Yes.
As Chris says yes. CF express is a standard, so all should work, but double check compatibility your card of choice before you buy. Just wise to do. Cheers Matt
I am no authority on the topic, but Z6 has been the most well-rounded camera I have ever shot with, from DR to IBIS, from build quality to how intuitive everything is. I would definitely go for a Z6 if I were moving new to the Nikon system right now. However, if video is not a major concern, Z5 serves aas an excellent gateway to the Z system.
Well said.
@Eltargrimm
I don't view the Z6 as an upgrade to try Z5 in ANY way, shape, or form.
The Z5 is absolutely superior in my book. It has the ability to charge while using, has two SD card slots, takes normal SD cards, has a proper layout for single handed operation, etc. Actually the Z5 is INFINITELY superior, IMO. The issue of 4K video recording is a a non issue as the majority of viewing targets are still 720 and 1080 to start with. One could always use a smaller mm lens if it's truly of great concern. I like to shoot everything 1080/60 as it not only takes up less space but is fully viewable on almost all devices.
I wouldn't trade my Z5 for a Z6 if a cash rebate were offered.
That being said, I think that both cameras are excellent but I think that the Z5 is superior.
When is Z6s coming ?
would be good to be allowed out into the spring weather
Yes I am ready to get out for sure :)
Do you think going from a d750 to the Z5 is a good switch?
I have never owned a D750, what do you shoot? :)
@@MattIrwinPhotography portraits and landscape and going into weddings
Mhh but z5 kit lens same as z6?
I'm waiting for the Z6s/Z7s, and also hoping they upgrade the Z50
I think the Z50 will be a while off. Yes the Z6s and Z7s ... bring it NIKON !!! 🚀
You should do a follow up to this. Unless I missed it ! Thanks Matt .
What if you shoot video in 1080p? Do we really need 4K? Z5 is now on sale. XQD card and reader add 150 usd to the price of the Z6. Then if you want some extra cards and a backup card reader the Z5 is a lot more convenient.
Looking at the current prices and features of both cameras, Z6 still looks a more attractive option...
I personally agree. :)
Yes
attractive option "to you"
I think the Z5 is an excellent camera and will become an even more lucrative buy sometime down the line when the price comes down by around 300 USD. For that price I feel it is unbeatable as an entry level full frame. Right now the biggest competition to the Z5 is the Z6 itself. I think Matt is bang on when he is says it is a fantastic camera for wedding and event photographers, especially as a back up body.
Yes it will be better priced within 3-6 month I think :) Cheers Matt
What planet do you ppl live on ?? Nikon drop prices within 3 - 6months?? Are you joking? If anything they will put their prices up!
You have just entered trolling territory ... simply not true. I bought my Z7 for $1000 less than launch price one month after release.
@@danialgowans1693 I paid 2160 usd (approx) for the nikon z6 with the kit lens, ftz adapter, a 32 gb xqd, a xqd reader, an extra battery and a camera bag and this was only a few months after it was launched. So yes nikon does reduce the prices of its cameras pretty soon and the z5 will be no different.
plz plz plz tell these nikon people that there are failing big in one thing. they put these two fn buttons that to me are pretty much useless as far as what they allow me to set for them. how difficult is it to set the fn button, when pressed, to get to '' wide area auto focus L - people'' so I can quickly grab a portrait which otherwise I would miss. this is software and an upgrade can fix it. thank you
i am a z6 :). hope to be a Z6s when it's available... and i am a D500 too....
I'm a potential Z6s buyer. So far, the Z50 is everything I want in a less expensive Z camera. :)
The Z6s will blow your mind I suspect .... : )
Nice video
Hi Matt, had that "dilemma" up to last week. Can't afford a Z7, but need some fast(ish) speed some for surf shoots... Then went for the Z6... Waiting for it... 🤩🤩
Awesome Greg, lets us all know how you go capturing the surfers. What lens will you put on the front??Cheers Matt
Will you use a waterproof housing?
@@MattIrwinPhotography I'll start with the kit 24-70 f4 on the wide side and my adapted 200-500 f5.6... I'm really waiting for the Z 100-400 S and the 200-600 and to compare with the 70-200 with a TC... According to the quality of the Z glass they have released so far... these long lenses should be epic!
@@dionysusrex9183 I'm thinking about it but need to get used to the Z line up first and see what reliable waterproof solutions are available as well as what lens to use. Never been shooting from the water so far, so plenty to learn...
were you talking about the zed 6ii?
No 😀
@@MattIrwinPhotography they're talking about a Z 6S model? I didnt know that. Is that like Sony a camera more geared for Video?
On the dual slot: for me is quite an issue, but not because Z6 has only one:
as a hobbyist, XQD is just too pricey for my money - in my country a 64GB XQD is 200+ USD
Even now, when the Z6 is only 100$ more than a Z5 that increases the difference to 300$ - what will it be in half an year, when Z6s starts shipping?
I would like an Z6, but don't do much video, 1080P is more than satisfactory and I'd take a Z5 + 50mm f/1.8 S instead of it any time of the day :)
Good call, you know what works for you and at the end of the day that is all that matters :) Cheers Matt
Check Adorama - you can get a refurb Z6 for a bit over $1400. No reason to step down to Z5 with that deal, unless you need two cards and a lot less elsewhere. I know warrantee is different, get an aftermarket extended one and have more there too for only a couple hundred more. Screamin' deal of a great camera.
Good find JR. Yes the Z6 is a mighty machine, and as the Z6s comes out, there may be more on the 2nd hand market. :)
I Just brought a z5 to replace a d3500. Almost 2000 nzd difference between the z5 and z6ii with their respective kit lenses. Z6 original is closer but still $700 difference and your not eligible for the free ftz adapter deal Nikon currently have on offer with the original z6.. also with the z5 you don't have to buy a expensive xqd card.
For an other video... what's about being a guide if somebody dream to visit your country as a safari photo? ressources, best period of the year, best place to visit (from Canada ;) ) cheers!
Cool Skye, as soon as I can get out and about, that is a great idea. Cheers Matt
Charging when using your camera- needs a cable. I have 5 or 6 EN-EL15 and can swap those, but it powers my Z 7 down. If I wanted continuous power in the camera, I would buy the EN-EL15 dummy that you connect to an AC power supply. Tether Tools have a voltage regulation module with a battery in it to go between dummy and AC adapter, so that would allow you to disconnect AC power, continue to operate on the battery in the module that feeds the dummy and later connect a power source again (like a USB power bank).
Does "my" option have a benefit over charging in the camera? Yes, heat. Charging a battery causes heat and in my case that stays outside the camera's body.
So many options.
I like it :)
I was thinking the same. I thought about the Z5, but at $1,400 for body only, I'd just grab a Z6. The main reason for me is shooting my daughters competitions where speed might give me an edge over the Z5.
What's the release date on 6s?
G'day Steve, we don't know yet, but I suspect before the year is out, I suspect a formal announcement in the next month or two. My guess. Cheers Matt
I really don't wanna go Sony
I'm coming from Olympus system
Is z5 enough for me?
What are you shooting?
@@MattIrwinPhotography I enjoy landscapes more than anything but would like to learn portraits some time. I appreciate the response.
NIKON, if youre watching the Z50 is an awesome yet UN-USABLE camera for any live stream or seminar use. Please release an AC adapter for the en-el25, Ive already seen posts of others selling their Z50 for this simple yet crucial reason.
Perhaps there is a 3rd party 'battery eliminator' have you looked for that TS? Cheers Matt
@@MattIrwinPhotography There are no third party options yet also. Hopefully when Nikon releases another model (Z30) using the same battery than companies might produce something for the en-el25. At the moment the Z50 is the only camera in the world to use this battery and companies are not willing to put money into tooling for this rare battery. It's been almost a year since the Z50 release and it's hard to fault the aftermarket. Nikon should understand this battery is niche/rare and give current customers another option power this camera. Great vid btw.
@@tooshmart6669 Yeah let's hope somebody does something, I certainly agree the battery does not last long enough. :)
Well we’re so happy winter is coming in India what a respite
Yes I am sure. Summer can get to 44c here too. How hot does it get where you live? Cheers Matt
Matt Irwin Photography This year it has been nicer. With lockdown and everything. About 38c.
I agree Z6 is also my choice.
😃💣 the bomb :)
Nikon z5 dropped on sale for 1196 USD. Very very tempting.
I am 90% certain to expect snow by the end of the month here.
Damn that weather, where are you? Snow good?
@@MattIrwinPhotography Edmonton in Canada. Got a really good snow fall on Sept 14th 2 years ago.
The only thing which prevents me from buying a Z6 is, that the display cannot be moved around as with Canons and that it does not have SD Card slots.
Fair enough Walter, I think the Z6s will address one, if not both of those preventions. Cheers Matt
It’ll be interesting to see all the people running from Canon (and possibly Sony) if the updated Z6 will do unlimited 4k video :-)
just got my z5. photos look great. 1080p is terrible. 4k looks great and the crop is easy to work around.
Great feedback Will, I suspect the cameras a very close on many aspects. I just love the Z system. Cheers Matt
I own the Z6 and I love. If you want a fullframe camera go for the Z6, if you want a cheap camera go for the Z50 with the kit lenses.
Yeah it will be interesting when the Z6s comes out, then the Z5 will be cheaper, and the Z6s I think will be more than the current Z6.
Matt Irwin Photography I also have the D500 and the 200-500 5.6 for safari trips. I hope that the Z6s can replace my D500 in terms of autofocus and we get a 200-500 or even a 200-600 soon.
I couldn't decide between Z5, Z6 or waiting for Z6s.
Then my local store had one day sale on the D780 for AU$2800, it was an easy decision to make given I've got a lot of AF-D glass.
Good call, amazing camera :) DSLR Z6 anyway :)
Let’s all wait for the next z6 shall we?
Z5 is the camera for me. I am still shooting on a D7000. I don’t make video’s only stills.
Hi Hans, awesome work, let me know what you think of it. Cheers Matt
I REALLY appreciate this video and agree fully with it.
I have to add that I found your video to be ENORMOUSLY REFRESHING as you don't keep calling the Z5 an "entry level camera" like so many on UA-cam that can't seem to look past the fact that the number 5 comes before 6 and 7 and rate it as "beginners" or "entry level". I'm still trying to figure out what sort of advanced intellect one must acquire to operate a 6, 7, or higher than the 5.
I just got my Z5 addition to my Z30. It did NOT come with training wheels or in Playskool packaging like one might expect after watching so many UA-cam vloggers use the words "beginners" and "entry level" like they were on video loop. I've actually grown to dislike and devalue their commentary because it almost feels like they are trying to shame Z5 owners (who are actually quite SMART in their decision AND they have money left over for glass 😁).
I purchased it because after I "mastered" the controls on the Z30 and ventured out into the actual world, not controlled home environment) I had enormous difficulty effecting quality captures using it hand held. I believe this is due to lack of IBIS AND no VF. The latter of which one can utilize as a third point of physical stabilization creating a pseudo tripod sort of effect. SO I knew I'd not be happy with it. I'd been in continual contact with Nikon since I got the Z30 a few weeks ago because I received a bad battery and was getting very VERY poor images on the 16-50 kit lens. It turns out that the battery was effecting some kind of electrical displacement when taking photos with the kit lens but Nikon solved it all by replacing the battery.
ANYWAY, since I called AGAIN to advise that the images were coming out quite poorly when I finally ventured out they advised that I just HAPPENED to be on the LAST DAY of their annual refurb sale. They set me up with the following:
• Z5 for $699;
• 24-50mm / f4-6.3 for $200;
• 28-75mm / f2. 8 for $548;
• 40mm / f2 for $199;
• 85mm / F1. 8 for $351;
• 50-250mm f4.5-6.3 for $331
My FAVORITE lenses are the 50-250 and the 40 F1. 8. I'm kinda' thinking I could have done without the 28-75 f2.8 but I just got everything yesterday so I'm obviously limited with my usage thus far. It just seems quite heavy but I'm sure I'll get used to it.
I determined that, for MY needs, the Z5 is a FAR better choice than either of the 6's.
The ONLY shortcoming for MY needs might be the video record limit of just 29 minutes. As far as the capture options, I actually PREFER 1080/100 (Z30) and 1080/60 (Z5) to 4K as a rule. It takes up less space and is viewable on most target devices. I have noticed that many recent UA-cam videos are made in 4K and they are not viewable on my 1080 telly. A video taken in 1080 is viewable on ALL devices (unless one has a mid century set, of course).
I just did my first video with the Z5 with 1080/60 with AF Speed at +5, Tracking Sensitivity at 1 and it came out BEAUTIFULLY! The 4K, when I tried it, DID enlarge everything in a most unpleasant fashion.
When watching the telly through my Android device, I ALWAYS cap my search options at 1080 and often choose 720 because there just ISN'T an appreciable discrepancy in viewing AND they usually fit the full screen, NOT a strip going through the center of my telly screen as is the effect with 4K and then I have to zoom to fit screen, cutting much of the show off, because there is nothing more annoying than having to watch a strip in the center of the screen with black on the top and bottom of the screen.
The excellent points that you make about two SD cards, continuous charging while using, and some others CONFIRM that I made an absolutely fantabulous decision. To be completely honest, I would NOT trade my Z5 for a 6 or 7 even if they gave me cash back! For MY needs they fall short AND I believe they are overpuffed in reviews. The 7 DOES product better pixelation / detail IF one prints a photo out on a poster sized medium but I don't think 48 is necessary or even DETECTABLE to the human eye elsewise. Additionally, it has been proven that RAW post process pixelation increase can actually produce GREATER results than the 7 with the 5 using the 28-50 kit lens! That was in another UA-cam video that I watched just today.
Again, thank you for a great video!
Great content Matt. I hate talking about the two card slots too - guess what? The pros I know all have 2 camera bodies (at least) - and they have 2 cameras on them during pro shoots. I'll say it again - the MTF of CFEXPRESS and XQD is more than 10 times what SD is. Nikon isn't stupid - they would have put 2 cheaper SD's in the camera bodies if they thought they were better. Those of you worried about 2 card slots I'll say it again - do you have 2 camera bodies with you? An extra flash? If you don't, your 2 argument makes no sense. I'm speaking as a pro that makes money from their photography. Sorry for the rant Matt, but I think the complaints come from people that don't understand the tech and aren't pros. Take good care my friend! Chris
Hi I think UA-camrs should promote the Z5 more to save Nikon
Even if the z6 is cheaper used
The fact that z5 has a standard memory card is a good thing for the average user
Just getting a 2 or 3 CF express and xqd is about the cost of a lens
The intro BGM made me think my speakers are broken
Shocking news (The Verge) - Fujifilm brings the mirrorless speed record: a f/1 lens.
(1) Of course you need that direly at APS-C format with limited high-ISO performance.
(2) There is the Nikon f/0.95 (full frame) that works well as DX (APS-C) lens too and still would be f/0.95.
(3) F-stops are the result of a measurement of focal length, diameter and a formula. Not actual light transmission. Even if the lens had black glass, it could still have the same f-stops. So, without T-stop, the number is almost meaningless.
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Maybe this was Nikon’s strategy all along. Get more people into Z system by offering a Z50 and Z5 but then having the Z6 closer in price to the Z5 so they can sell their stock, come out with the Z6s/7s, and bring out cameras that the original Z 6/7 should have been. More people may be buying Nikon cameras
than we think.
There's no thinking about it. Z6!
Go to glass? :)
@@MattIrwinPhotography Sorry, I don't understand that.
Sorry what are you fav lenses?
@@MattIrwinPhotography I would probably go with the Nikon Z 24mm 1.8 and the 50mm 1.8, since I don't do portrait photos and I want the best picture quality for the price
@@ChiccoMusic12 The only Z prime I don't have yet is the 24mm, but I love the 50mm it is outstanding value for cost. :)
Nikon's have a way of punching way above their weight class. Me and my girl we both bought compact mirrorless full frames. I got the Z5 and she got the A7C. While almost costing twice as much as my Nikon, at least where we live, when we went out for some landscape photography, the Z5 quite surprisingly stood toe to toe and even outclassed the A7C in some aspects. I was overjoyed and she was plain jealous. Plus I feel the Z5 is better built and feels more natural and ergonomic compared to the A7C, not to mention perks like a superior EVF, superior IBIS & weather sealing and 2xUHS-II slots. It was to a point where she asked me If I wanted to swap camera's with her and I said 'FUCK NO!'.
We are getting married, so yeah, I had to swap cameras. The Auto Focus on this A7C is great though.
The price of Z6 has gone up in my country. Since i bought one the prices have gone up between $80-100. If priced properly the Z5 could be the biggest market disruptor of the recent times. The maximum buyers are from the low end of the market who are looking for an affordable alternative and this thing does 1080p60fps, unlimited battery life with a usb c power delivery power bank. This could be the greatest plus point. Being able to run this thing forever. I have a z6 and if i ever, ever decide to buy a second full frame i will be watching z5 extremely closely. I absolutely love the image quality of z6 and if z5 can match that then bravo!
The Canon EOS RP was 1300 USD at launch, and can now be had at 1000 USD. Every brand as well as resellers mark up in the beginning of the product, because there's always some demand that moves the merch from the shelves. Then as gradually demand weakens, they start with sell-out promotions and discounts. When the product is aged 6 months to 1 year, the lower price that was enabled through promotions sticks and becomes permanent. Then after 2-3 years close to being discontinued, there will be even some extra rebates and promotions to move the goods out for good and replace with the new model. I am very sure that by 2022 the Z5 with the kit lens can be had for under 1000 USD. I always buy cameras when they're at the end of the cycle (I bought a new D810 for around 2000 USD just when the D850 was launched for example).
@@TaipeiGeek if z5 is even body only for $1000 then i gues it'll blow everything away. I my country, however, eos rp is still around $1400 mark.
I think the Z5 is a great camera, and I think the price will be 20% (roughly) lower by the end of the year ... and as Geek suggests the price will lower even more over time.
It is really interesting how much pricing varies all over the world. It is a difficult topic to talk about globally, as it is so different.
@@MattIrwinPhotography exactly. The atomos ninja 5 costs almost $900 here and nikon did the prores raw upgrade for free in India!
Don't give a rats about video or high frames per second. Probably the best value FF Nikon around at the moment. Especially as there are now some 2nd hand ones floating about.
I'm a Z5, but will likely be a Z6s soon.
Perfect combo Geno :) what is your goto glass? Cheers Matt
@@MattIrwinPhotography Geetings from Kerntucky, USA. Happy Derby Day. All Zs. 24-50 when on the Ronin SC gimbal (for weight). 50mm 1.8 for portrait. 24-200 for adventure. These three do everything I need. Great vids Matt. Thanks.
I got a Z6 3 weeks ago after working out the advantages and disadvantages. It was also cheaper.
What a fucking awesome camera. The colours! I use a Fuji too! Nikon blows it away.
I have seen it cheaper here too when on sale. Interesting cross over time :)