Scott Steiner - main eventer - WAS IT ANY GOOD?
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- Опубліковано 19 вер 2024
- I got a UA-cam comment suggestion to cover Scott Steiner when WCW turned him into a world champion main eventer during the last five months of the company. I thought it would be interesting to look back on this and figure out if it was actually good. It should be a sign on what WWE missed out on when Steiner arrived there in 2002. This was WCW in 2000/2001 so things weren’t exactly looking good for wcw at this time, did they screw this up?
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I see the name of Scott Steiner in the title, I immediately click it.
Exactly what I just did
One last run
Right? My man.
@@Badvibesdude Steiner, New Jack and stupid people getting hurt doing stupid shit I can't scroll by without checking it out
@@ryandonovan5205 Did you ever see Steiner and Vader stretching the hell out of two jobbers at some Insane Clown Posse wrestling event? It's glorious.
You have to give him credit for not half-assing it in spite of WCW being on life support.
Facts
Absolutely... you said that right!
@@anricquet7:50 broken
“It suffers from way too many ref bumps and interference.”
One of WCW’s big problems overall. It got so tedious to watch eventually.
Especially in 2000 every match there was some bs finish and it got old fast I was done with WcW after New Blood Rising
Yes, you can the same thing about Jeff Jarrett era TNA too. What drove me crazy about early TNA was that they seemed to be copying the failed WCW era rather than get behind exciting young stars like AJ Styles.
@@briannettles669 Oh, Jarrett was doing it even in his first WWF run. He's among the worst ever. So boring too.
No, the ref didn’t take Scott’s advice by blocking out the pain, to make the body grow. 🤣🤣🤣
all wcw cared about was overpushing the NWO and didnt care about anybody else another reason for there downfall
Scott Steiner just aged to 50 and then stopped aging. Just like that.
He's immortal y'all!
I'm not so sure.
He's covered up with tattoos now for a reason.
Are you kidding?
He's aging. When he was inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame, he clearly looked old.
@@ShiningJudgment666he didn’t have the size of back then but sure looked the same
The most annoying part about this entire thing is Sid breaking his leg, them still doing the Mystery Man reveal WHILE SID'S STILL IN THE RING WITH A BROKEN LEG, then kicking him, then Steiner pinning him, then them celebrating, again, WHILE SID'S STILL IN THE RING WITH A BROKEN LEG. Did WCW not have medics on standby?!?!?!??!
Top rope faik
It was said that if WCW were to get a new deal, they were gonna have Steiner be the Top Heel of WCW moving forward. I can definitely see him and Booker T being the top two guys to carry the company forward.
Scott Steiner definitely had the potential to be a Main Event Talent in the WWE, but there were a few problems not just injury related (And no HHH did not bury him)
1. Steiner returning as a babyface when the big poppa pump character is tailor made for being a heel.
2. Putting Steiner on Raw. Realistically Steiner would have been benefited from being a Smackdown guy and could have worked with guys like Angle, Benoit, and Guerrero who could work around his injuries. Plus with The Rock going back to Raw in 2003, Smackdown needed another Top Heel and Steiner would have been perfect for that role.
3. After the buyout Steiner sat out the vast majority of 2001 and pretty much all of 2002, which lead to ring rust and lack of cardio, on top of his injuries
4. Some guys just don't work well together in the ring. It was clear by the matches with HHH that their styles just don't mesh well with each other.
Scott Steiner having rivalries with Brock, Taker, Angle, and more on Smackdown was such a missed opportunity from WWE.
Scott sucked. Looked like Tarzan but he had no other main event attributes. Only horny whores (male and female) liked him. He was clumsy and awkward as hell
Yeah. He should've been a bad guy. And working s program with Triple H? It didn't benefit either Nash or Goldberg.
@@tun-tunninc.6492 Actually I think the HHH fued did help Kevin Nash. The HIAC match at Bad Blood 03 was actually pretty solid and he partook in the 2nd ever chamber match at Summerslam that same year. It gave him something of substance to do since the The NWO angle ran it's course the year before, and elevated his status as a singles guy. Goldberg...yeah, I'm not Goldberg fan but they absolutely should have put the belt on him sooner than they did.
Oooft, Steiner v Lesnar. On that note, can Lesnar go full bore Steiner insane please?
He was called “Superstar” Scott Steiner clearly as a tribute to the man who inspired his over-all look: The late, great Superstar Billy Graham. R.I.P. I don’t think that it’s “generic” at all. I thought it was a cool shoutout. That fact that this lost him points is a shame.
"Superstar" was far better than "White Thunder" but not quite as great as "Big Bad Booty Daddy".
@@originalhuggies9740 where does ‘the purple warrior’ rank😂
Anything Steiner calls himself is Tshirt worthy
Before I watch this video, I just wanna mention that Steiner's reign as World Champion in WCW is one of my favourite things ever in wrestling. This man was at his peak in terms of his entertainment factor, especially his promos; you always knew to expect absolute gold whenever Big Poppa Pump grabbed a microphone.
Scott Steiner was a true champion, a huge fan of his. Dude was strong AF, had the look, had a great moveset, was 10/10 on the mic, and always got a huge pop from the crowd.
@ Blayze Deville it was probably one of the most impressive & consistent things WCW ever did honestly. Which is amazing in and of itself. When ever WCW did do something right. I was only 8 or 9 at the time but this run still sticks out with me. It’s honestly one of my favorite heel runs of all time. He was just so dominant & intimidating. He was built like a comic book villain almost. Such a shame we didn’t get to see this run go further. I wonder who he would’ve lost the title to.
That first sentence is the one
Young Scott Steiner was an amazing athlete who didn't have much personality. Big Poppa Pump was an amazing personality with limited wrestling skills. I always thought if you could combine the young athletic freak Scott Steiner with the BPP gimmick it would make him the GOAT.
It always irked me he didn’t get a TNA run as Champ but Aj styles bored everyone to sleep with countless reigns. With Steiner’s mouth if you beat him you were fairly over.
With Scott Steiner as WCW champion, it brought much needed stability to the title.
"Despite Steiner being the one to end Nash's career, Flair does most of the talking."
Reminds me of how Ric talked about himself when inducting The Great Muta at this year's WWE Hall of Fame.
Regardless of WCW at the time, Steiner had one of the greatest WCW world title runs.
Scott Steiner could have should have been a main eventer late '98. But i enjoyed his main event championship run in 00. A whole unit. Holla if ya hear me 💪
Scott Steiner should be a motivational speaker 🔥
Came for Scott Steiner, stayed for the Sid leg snap.
bro 💀
WTF? I don't wanna see that. Horrible injury
Vito was up there with Crowbar in terms of treating every match like it was an opportunity to make new fans. Always respected the hell out of those few folks who were still giving everything they had to rearrange the deck chairs while WCW was sinking into oblivion.
There is 141 2/3% chance that this will a good video. Sid suffered a horrific injury for the spot he was not ready to do.
I see what you did there.
But then, you add Kurt Angle to the mix?
Without adding Kurt Angle to the mix, those chances will drastic go down.
@@dmdeign7116and S'moa Joe to the mix
Sid should have left the Bret's rope maneuver's to others and stayed grounded
Of one thing we can be certain: It was WAAAAAAAAAAAY better than his WWE run.
That is what wrestling is missing today big buff wrestlers who scream and act crazy just because 😂😂
Brock Lesnar kind of does that
Also steroids.
Bron breakker lol
@@growing.grounds4054 and Jacob fatu
Big poppa was just enormously strong at this time. Like he just effortlessly throws around grown ass men. RIP Sids career during all this. Was sad to see his career end this way.
Everything Scott does is gold
I cannot wait to get off work and watch this. I have been watching a whole bunch of classic Scott Steiner promos lately 😎
its crazy watching Steiner in the early 90s because he was insanely athletic before he racked up a bunch of injuries and the roids stole all his mobility. He and Rick's match in NJPW with Hiroshi Hase and Muta at Battlefield 1992 is amazing
It ducks to cause Steiner was plenty big in the early to mid 90s. He didn’t have to develop the comedy arms
Scott was amazing early in his career with the steiner brothers. Go back and watch him seriously. Unfortunately he got too big and too injured, but he became amazing on the mic. If only the early and late Scotts were somehow merged.
Hope for his nephew Bron
I always thought about this. He would have been top 5 all time.
Steiner is one of my faves. Big Poppa Pump was great. Good or not I liked his world title runs. He's just so entertaining.
I think if Steiner came into WWF/E right at the beginning of the Invasion in 2001, he could have been a short-term world champion at one point or another. Your analysis is spot-on; by late 2002/early 2003, his body was beat and he had lost a step. Crazy what a difference 18 months can make when you're that big and already pushing 40.
He's just one of a bunch of wrestlers that sat out their big money contracts and weren't really needed when they finally went to WWF/E. Shame really but I don't think anyone is going to fault them for just taking the money and not taking bumps.
In terms of WWE, they should've had Scott debut as a heel right from the get-go. Didn't have to go for the World Title right away. He's always been better as a heel anyways.
I quit watching wrestling in 1990 and started again in 99. I only knew Scott Steiner from magazines where he wasn’t at that time a body builder type, so this blew my mind. Finding out Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels were World Champions was also a shock. I also thought The Rock was Don Muraco when I would see the shirts at Walmart.
Lol bro he was a bodybuilder in 1989 as a rookie...he just got like Pro freaky big later
I hope that WWE gives his nefew the Main Event run that Scott never had. With Roid-rage, freaks and all the other stuff
This is a certified hood classic.
I feel like Steiner's heel world title run was very underrated but he was definitely a good heel and he should have had the world title put on him a year or so earlier, at the beginning of 2000 at least, he was main event material by that point in my opinion. Also it sounds like you used my instrumental remake for Steiner's theme in the video and if so then thanks MarkyD i appreciate it.
I agree that Steiner should have been world champion earlier than he did. I would have like to see him be the centerpiece of the New Blood as world champion after Spring Stampede 2000 instead of Jeff Jarrett.
I don't remember Flair having that spiky 2000s haircut or Sid wearing tights at all.
Scott got "TOO BIG" and it made him move slow, "TOO JACKED UP"
Well now his nephew is currently going on rampage in NXT
Shuv it squadddddd! That leg break for sid was always hard to watch lol
Steiner smashing laptops gives me serious Neil Breen vibes. Just as crazy too!
😂😂 That's exactly what I was thinking when he did it!!
I was a big WCW fan even when it died on March 26, 2001. That was on my birthday. I love the Big Gold world heavyweight championship belt❤
scott steiner was great entertainment more than in ring work in the latter part of his wcw career but was never bored when he was on tv
Steiner Math still blows my mind 🤯😆
THE NUMBERS DON'T LIE!!
@@shaqyardie8105 They spell disaster for you at sacrifice 😂😎👍
@@Dr_1212 D154573R!!
Speaking of Scott Steiner, could you talk about a man he was very inspired by, superstar Billy Graham and his run through the 80's in the mid south, I think that's cool content
This was before his Drop Foot condition really started to fuck up his mobility and footwork. It is SUCH A SHAME we couldn't see him on a good multiple year main event run before then when he was still at his athletic peak.
To be fair to his "Superstar" nickname, it was a homage to Billy "Superstar" Graham, who influenced Big Poppa Pump greatly, and back in Graham's day the word "Superstar" hadn't been stripped of all it's meaning by WWE.
Superstar Scott Steiner just doesnt have the ring to it like Superstar Billy Graham. RIP Billy.
It was fantastic. We needed Steiner vs stone cold
Scott Steiner was known as White Thunder for a very short period of time between his Scott Steiner baby face run and his Big Poppa Pump heel run. Saw him at WCW Thunder in Columbus as White Thunder.
Yes! I requested this video a few times in the comments as well. Thank you!
You have good taste my dude.
Too little, too late to save WCW, but I really liked Big Poppa Pump as world champion.
scott steiner is the best repackaging for a wrestler of all time. maybe 2nd best to NWO hogan. steiner looks like a completely diff person from when he had longer black hair
Sting?
@@hiddensword9387 surfer sting to crow sting is not 1 of the best repackagings of all time i'd say. the fact that we all know its just lifted from a movie and refer to it as "crow sting" is a point taken off.
@@heyyoitsmebrian He still had to put his own take on it and translate it to wrestling. I get your point but it could have gone wrong, it was quite a transition.
Steiners repackaging was amazing because he just became a completely different person. His whole persona and look changed. Adding all that muscle at a later age hasn’t been done I don’t think, at least in a high level guy. There’s a current AEW guy called Brian Cage who added maybe even more lean mass and even has a better physique, at least from a bodybuilding perspective, but he’s a lower level wrestler
@@HkFinn83 thats why i said what i said. he doesnt even look or feel like the same guy. and yeah i know brian cage. he does look sick. do you watch OSW review? i think Cage is the only person besides Steiner that has won "roidy McGoo of the year" lol
Finally the long awaited video..thanks Markyd123
Steiner, the man with the shortest fuse and LARGEST "ERMMS" in professional wrestling
Scott Steiner ME run was amazing, it such a shame it didn't arrive earlier
When I saw the video was on Steiner, stopped what I was doing to watch this
The leg break is BRUTAL
@ 8:09 one of the most gruesome injuries ever seen until 'Dumbo' Dante Martin said "Hold my trunks".
That Sid Vicious leg botch caught me so off guard lmao
Where is “a wild slapnuts appears!”
Positively Kanyon mocking DDP is underrated entertainment 😂
Around the Steiner & Flair feud: Steiner cut 2 promos earlier in the year shooting hard on Flair's politicking. In the second one, he even said "If you look at the WWF and who's been the champ there, with the exception of one person, they all came from here. But you and your old bastard friends drove them all out, so you could be a Fourteen time World Champion.
"...skeen like a sharpei pupp-eee..." Great Steiner promo.
Scott's nephew definitely learned a lot of things from him.
I want Amy Christine Dumas aka (Lita) "was she any Good?" story. now!!!!!!!
Well, it's like he said. Just keep doing his stuff and he'll be fine. Steiner math promo? Check. Heel run? Check. Viciousness as a heel? Check. Moveset? Well, he has his uncle and his Dad's stuff so big check. Midajah? Well, Cora Jade kind of looks like a younger version of her. Kind of. Just hasn't been brought on-screen.
He was great as a main event heel and champion.
I wonder what ever happened to Midajah after the WCW buyout cause I know Scott was on that Tuner Contract but Midajah was probably on a normal contract it would’ve be cool if they actually hired her for Steiner return to WWE
She was a personal trainer/nutritionist and fitness model. She dated mike o'hearn for a while after her wcw run.
@@canijustplease wait really that’s cool and she dated the most chadded man in today’s history she’s one lucky girl ong
I thought they were married
Funny how Jeff Jarrett was only pushed hard in WCW when Russo was booking between April-October 2000, and not before or after.
I think Scott Steiner was a good world champion . He was a good heal. Now WCW booking at the time was all shit
Now that's a question that's seriously important: Who the hell was booking WCW the moment Russo had to leave? Was it John Laurinaitas, Kevin Sullivan, JJ Dillon?
@@ricardonb6375 Terry Taylor, Ed Ferrara, and Johnny Ace were the booking committee for the end of 2000-2001. It has never made any sense to me why they canned Russo but then handed WCW over to his buddies
Also, Kanyon was playing DDP because of the “Positively Kanyon” gimmick and feud that was going on at the time. Basically CK running around in a blonde wig beating people up with a copy of Page’s book and delivering Kanyon Cutters to backstage stooges.
He was an inventor of Freankensteiner and Steiner Screwdriver for Christ sake, what a chad! Of course he can wrestle! And he can talk! Can be a good guy, bad guy, funny, serious. He is like a definition of a wrestler. Makes me sad I almost entirely missed him because there was no WCW in my country and he joined WWE when WWE programs disappeared from our TV. But what a cool dude
steiner screwdriver was actually a move invented by Jushin Liger
@@justinalley3399 damn. Alright, but at least I discovered for myself from Steiner.
But still, Frankensteiner, he is one invented move ahead most wrestlers.
Don't forget the 450!
@@RobJaskula damn, haven't even seen that! Found on YT video from 1987. Great stuff!
Don't forget about his backflip slam
There definitely was a time when I looked at him as the best is the business. I was like 16 when he was dominating as the US champ. To me, that was his best run.
Scott Steiner is that type of crazy I’m trying to be
Hey Marky, I heard you mention around the 4:15 Mark that Steiner starts to call himself "The Superstar". I also thought it was corny when I first heard it, but Steiner was a huge fan of Superstar Billy Graham. That's why he changed his look to look like him and called himself "The Superstar."
I don’t need to watch the video to know if Scotty d likes Scott Steiner runs
My friends who watched Steiners title reign called it, “the last man standing” storyline. It’s my favorite wcw run by far.
That makes sense
Roid Rage "gimmick" ... and those are some massive quotation marks.
He was Golden. One of the only watchable star at before wcw died
If I remember right, wwe actually wanted Steiner to be main eventing when he came in but because of a foot/ankle injury that he wanted to work through he was extremely immobile. After almost dropping Trips on his head and being limited in physical action, WWE let him fall down the card before finally cutting their loss on him.
Roid Steiner was a classic
Big Poppa Pump's wcw world title run was long overdue
Scott Steiner as WCW champ was great. He helped stabilise the title instead of it being switched around twice a week. It sucked WCW went out of business when it did because it was starting to get a few things right and pushing Steiner as the top guy was one of them.
Pretty sure he went by ‘Superstar’ as an reference to Superstar Billy Graham who greatly influenced him, RIP
Size does matter!
I was invested in the feud he had with DDP as they made it personal by getting Kimberley involved.
Holla if you hear me
Disappointing that he took points off for “superstar”….it worked & it was a nice little tribute to Graham
I think he was overall good as the top heel and a believable WCW champ. His run also ended all the shenanigans of swapping the belt too frequently and it being held up a ridiculous amount of times in the first half of 2000.
I can't wait for The Hawk to interview Slapnuts.
I guess why Steiner got over was cause the gimmick felt natural to an extent. It's no secret that Scott Steiner was one of the most feared men in the locker room, not only cause of the steroid allegations, but also cause both Steiners had a reputation for toughness, and not afraid to push people around for it. However, backstage tales have also mentioned that if anyone dared to stand up to Scott, showing they will not back down, he will be surprisingly mellow after that. It's all hearsay, so take that as you will.
Oh shit, I appreciate the shoutout and thanks for doing the vid.
i love Steiner, he is so entertaining and i loved him in TNA/RKK
He was perfect for RKK, when he seen how the audience reacted to him and went after them was gold.
Fun fact. The WCW title changed hands 19 times in the final year of the company 🤯 However Scott Steiner held it for the final four months before the company went under. So that's 18 title changes in eight months and then somehow Steiner manages keep it for a lifetime by 2000/2001 WCW standards and only lost it because WCW were shutting their doors and Scott wanted to wait out his Time Warner deal before going to WWE. My theory is, whoever was booking loved a title change but was terrified to tell Scott to lose the belt so that's why they stopped flipping the title every week 🤣
That's why it saddened me that WWE didn't give him the belt back in 2002.
The Magnificent Seven stable was the worst thing to happen to Scott’s title run as they were completely unnecessary. He didn’t need them as he was a very dominant champion and his unhinged, roid rager gimmick was captivating and made him legit scary. Also it was filled with guys who were either complete irrelevant or couldn’t get over if their life depended on it. Typical WCW 2000s bullshit. But at least Scott’s title run ended on a good note as he lost it to Booker T, who was an amazing and inspiring Babyface who returned to exact revenge on Scott. It was a good full circle closing to their feud.
They Were A Tough Faction. It Was A Huge FACTION With All WCW Guys. They Were More Powerful Than DX & The McMahonHelmsleyFaction-They Are Underrated. That Made 2001 Good, Alright. It Would've Been Better If WCW Continued With The Huge Stars Inuured By Steiner & Hulk Hogan
Returning To Feud With Them. Still Scott Steiner Was Going To Be Top Heel. In Charge Terry Taylor, Johnny Ace & Eric Bischoff Despite Vince Russo Work Continuing Was Doing Another Thing DIFFERENT From NWO. Another Faction With All WCW Guys & Stars.
A resounding yes. There's your answer.
@5:24 Man, I forgot how out of shape Sid looked compared to his WWF run in 1997. Sid was almost full blown dad bod when he wrestled Steiner in WCW. You could also see Scott's waistline getting wider and thicker by 2000/2001 and his pec tear was beginning to show. Overall, Scott did not look as lean as he did just a few years prior (1998) to his title run. I don't think they ruined Scott's title reign. If anything his title run came too late as WCW was past the point of no return in 2000/2001.
Scott Steiner was a better heel than a babyface. Decent mic skills and being the founder of suplex city.
Markyd123, please do a video on Bruiser Brody in Word Class Championship Wresting for Ring of the Hawk, or was it any good because he will be an A or a B I swear on the reputation of the Shuv it Squad
Im interested in his valet
I think found you a video idea 10 best roid rage in wrestling or roid rage wrestlers
The promos against flair through the title reign was alone worth it. Until the masked man popped up i was 100% invested in the story.
I used to hate Scott Steiner back then. But I still watched his matches and promos because they were so intense and unpredictable! Over time I realized I got worked 100% by this guy ( I think only Ric Flair also did that to me ). This guy used to be extremely agile and when he realized he couldn't do things anymore, he became a whole other persona. I think he definitely inspired the likes of Chris Jericho in that sense. Definitely one of the greatests of all time.
What about slappy have you come to appreciate man?
Samoa Joe in NXT was it any good?
Scott Steiner younger and healthier vs Brock would have been a banger
That short clip of him suplexing Meng/Haku blew my F'n mind
Scott Steiner was one of the few bright spots of WCW at the time. He fit in perfectly with the antihero personas at the time that WCW was struggling to find personalities.