Dynasty Warriors 7 is the best of all the games, because in this they did focus more on the history, then just make a fun game. They still made DW7 like the others but made an effort on the history on the three kingdoms then they had before. Its such an AMAZING story. plus the soundtracks in the cutscenes is awesome, gives it a more "war" vibe then before:)
I complete almost all the way. Personally I see DW7 as a bit of a spiritual successor to DW4. Where as 4 didn't the strict historical narrative it was very fun, and very replayable, unlike DW6, the disaster that it was. They made excellent cutscenes with top notch voice work and a killer soundtrack, with new new designs that actually fit characters, looking at you again 6. However, the one this I dislike most is they kept the damn Bow weapons from 6, in my eyes probably the singular worst weapons in all the games.
I have to agree with my friend this came out when I turned 18 and I Shipped out to Afghanistan a year later in my downtown not on patrol I asked my grandfather to send me the Romance of the Three kingdoms and a book on the three kingdoms era...it's a fun game but historically it's awful how much bloodshed civil war Chinese history was but it was also so mind boggling reading Zhuge Liangs book interpretating The Art of War of Sun Tzu.....I still can't believe how far back in history it was but yet Zhuge Liang was really indeed a genius.
The best? Not really is decent. They remove morales, peons are easy to kill, no free mode, too many weapon clones. But in terms of story mode is the best in the franchise
The Sima clan didn't last either. When it fell, 4 clans rose to fight for control, they were Song, Chen, Qi, and Liang. They could move on to the next chapter so to speak, but they named their game series after the Three Kingdoms, so they are pretty much stuck in this era. I also doubt people would like to see a new story with new characters after playing with their favourites for so long. Right?
@@LuckiSir There's a lot they could do, they can literally have a "Three Kingdoms" story mode and then the new era story mode after. But nah, lazy developers, lol. I think we'd have an insane character roster though.
As a lifelong fan of DW games, I would also be more than ready for the series to move on in that direction. Honestly, after 7, the others were big let downs and I've lost interest.
the thing is, Wu could have held against Jin but Sun Hao was worse than Liu Chan in terms of leadership and proved to be a ruthless and hateful tyrant. He would even order his guards to pluck out eyes of his own advisors if he even SUSPECTED of treason. After the death of Lu Xun and Ding Feng, Wu's only last hope was Lu Kang, the son of Lu Xun, but not even he could prevent the decay within. Lu Kang was considered the last hero of Wu.
Another thing i’d like to add, i find it ironic that Wei ended the same way how the Han ended, when Cao Pi forced Emperor Xian to abdicate. Karma’s a bitch.
Despite being wary of Sima Yi, Cao Pi relied on him heavily and considered him a friend. When Cao Rui came to power after his father died he greatly respected Sima Yi and knew that if he was in the East than Sima Yi would watch the West and vice versa. Hence why when Cao Rui personally lead troops, such as when he defeated Sun Quan's army before Zhuge Liang and Sima Yi would fight at Wuzhang Plains, he was at ease. He also understood Sima Yi's thinking very well too.
This game is the proof that storytelling is more crucial the story itself. Events that happened two millenia ago, stories that had been told countless times in different media. Yet here stands the seventh game of a series that consistently tell the same story, surpassing all before (and after) it in telling those events over again and affecting the people witnessing the story they already know of once again unlike any other before it.
Deng Ai: Nothing is like the way it was before today. We live in a world that is always changing. Jiang Wei: I won't stop until I've fulfilled my duty!
This was the perfect ending and I don't think any other DW game can surpass this one. After the massive garbage that was 6, they really fixed everything here. It was historical, it let you play the most important character in a kingdom's scenario, it made Cao Cao who was a one-dimensional villain in past games in to a realistic character that made sense. It made every kingdom sympathetic and showcased their viewpoints well. Then at this ending, it perfectly captures the bitter feeling everyone that was a fan of history had when they first found out all three kingdoms lost in the end and was taken over by Jin. So many heroes from Cao Cao, to the three brothers, to Sun Ce, and for all of it to die.
I actually liked the Renbu combat system in DW6. Being able to dodge roll (sorely, sorely needed in Dynasty Warriors for a long time), properly block and parry, and even counter attack from a blocking position, which meant you actually had to perform techniques other than just spamming the attack button with the "Charge" system from previous games until the other enemy died. If they didn't make it so the Renbu meter got lower and lower while you were out of combat, and instead tied it to your weapon (like they did in DW6 Empires), it would have been much better combat system. But alas, Dynasty Warriors fans HATE change, so they brought back the old Charge system for DW7 (a change I personally disliked). On the other hand of course, I HATED the character design, and ESPECIALLY hated DW6 for almost entirely abandoning the historical course of the Three Kingdoms in favour of each character having their own generic personal story of achieving unificiation. The problem with DW7 is that it didn't demonstrate the fact that the Sima clan were almost entirely the root cause of Wei's instability. Unfortunately for Wei, they RELIED in Sima Yi to repel Shu while Zhuge Liang was still alive, and once he died, Sima Yi used his newfound influence in Wei to plot his own rise to power, then passed this ambition on to his sons, who eventually purged Wei of Cao members until the emperor was simply a figurehead to appease the masses. I'd arguably even say Sima Yi was WORSE than Cao Cao, since at least Cao Cao took an unstable government and stabilised it by installing himself and his many talented generals and court members at the head, whereas Sima Yi essentially did the opposite. The Jin Dynasty didn't even last long itself before it broke apart due to internal strife. BUT, DW7 was a great game nontheless, my second favourite personally (behind 3) just for sticking strictly to the Three Kingdoms story. That and the soundtrack is arguably the best in the entire series.
You can't forget about the story telling. Unlike the other games I was completely interested in the telling of the events. They did a great job with that especially the narrator, we got to give him props.
Cao Ang Personally, I didn't have any major problems with Dynasty Warriors 6. I honestly saw DW 6 as a sort of experiment, a preview at what direction DW 7 might take considering appearances. Having different voice actors casted for the English Dub, very different character designs, and the Renbu combat system, gave off that impression.
Story? Yes Gameplay? No, too many clones, If only KOEI can make the story just like DW7, each characters have their own character development just like DW6 (but for all of them, not like DW6 that only for some characters), have their own story mode just like DW 5, and good gameplay no weapon clones like DW8 If KOEI wants their fans to be happy then why don't they work harder? Btw sorry for bad english
Probably the #1 best storytelling in the Dynasty Warriors series. The narrator made it feel like you as the player was part of history. The introduction to the Jin Kingdom and the hyothetical route was very enjoyable and gives the series a fresh new content. It's very crazy how some of them were still fighting each other in the afterlife despite the fact that the Sima clan was the one that conqured all 3 kingdoms. The only downside i have with the series is that in Dynasty Warriors 9, they went back to weapon cloning and the enlgish voice actors for a majority of the warriors didn't fit well except for the newly playable characters.
The greatest part of this epilogue is throughout the entire game even the movies and books and history you resonate with a story of the three and hope and pray they win. But the more you play and understand the history you realize the quote "war doesn't determine who is right only who is left" it really sounds loud when you realize of the three kingdoms who won?.......none of them....
Your last statement about war is exactly why this was the best Dynasty Warriors ending or story in general. A lot of the games fail to tell us that no matter how badass these warriors were this all resulted into lost lives in war
Quite honest, and believe me im not being bias at all (Although i believe shu was right all along), the only ones who really wanted to end the conflict was liu bei. Liu Bei cared for the people, Sun Quan cared for his people and Cao Cao cared for...well, himself
Zhou Yu: All of my strength, I devote to those I love. Zhuge Liang: I only care that my efforts will restore peace to the land. Gan Ning: I live for the fight! Zhang Liao: My motivation lies in my pursuit to perfect my might. Huang Zhong: When I die, I only hope that it will be on the field of battle. Xiahou Yuan: My bow has never missed its mark!
For all the people talking about Yi Ling: It wasn't a terrible idea. Liu Bei simply had terrrible luck with the weather. He effectively plowed through what Wu resistance he found. But: 1. Terrible heat forced him to put his men in the forest, or they'd die from the heat. This enabled a very successful fire attack, but that was not alone the major problem. 2. Rain(ironic, isn't it) had plagued the route back, so when Liu retreated, a landslide wiped out a good part of his troops.
La culpa la tuvo Wu después de traicionar a Shu matando a Guan Yu, el Dios de la Guerra, un efecto mariposa más que importante porque a partir de ese acotecimiento arrancaría el comienzo del fin de los 3 reinos, porque de derrocar a Wei, Sima Yi podría haber sido una Rebelión más (dudo que haya sido convocado por Shu o Wu teniendo a los estrategas como Zhuge Liang y Lu Xun)
I really think that dynasty warriors 7 is where they should have ended the series. It was the most historically accurate and treated all the characters with equal respect and this ending really shows off the bitter sweetness and really pointlessness of the war in the end. Most definitely my favourite game.
Treat everyone with respect? I would agree but that Zhang LIao death at the hands of Sun Quan was just historically wrong and disrespectful lol. Also too many clones. So happy DW8 happened and even more So DW8 XL/CE(best game in my opinion and I'd be okay if it ended here because you have both the historical and hypothetical paths).
jsmasterlubu3 Fair enough, I though Zhang Liao's death was beffiting for the character that Koei created(which was sadly not the historical figure fully), as it created a good contrast between him and Sun Quan. Zhang Liao is a warrior, fighting with honour and never surrendering despite all odds, Sun Quan is a leader, fighting with others to achieve goals, knowing when to retreat and also occasionally having to use the underhand method to succeed. But that's just how I see it and I did enjoy DW8. I just think DW7 had the best story.
Uh, every dynasty warriors are about the same thing every single game, they just retell it slightly differently each time there's no sequels to this type of historical story telling
DW6 was always a game I played as a kid. Never cared much for the story, and focused solely on the mindless hack-and-slash entertainment of it all. I'd go to my grandparents every Saturday, plug in my 360, and play for a few hours on the living room TV. Here I am now, 23 years old, revisiting the series, moments after finishing all of DW7's stories, and god damn. This ending scene completely solidified my love for these games. I didn't think I cared much about it, but I didn't realise how surprisingly invested I was in its characters and historical storytelling. Zhuge Liang will also always be my favourite. Can't figure out why. But he always comes to the front of my mind. That final visual of some significant characters speaking their reasoning behind their actions, with an ending shot of Sun Quan, Liu Bei and Cao Cao... my god. 💙 I've never played DW8, so I'm excited about that. All I can do is simply hope that it beats my expectations like this one did. Now, onto DW7 Conquest Mode...
Zhuge Liang's biggest mistake was not having enough food supply for the northern campaign and trusting Ma Su too much. Ma Su was a good officer but he was cocky during his later years from success and used a stragety which proved his failure by blocking his own water supply. he believed the soldiers would fight harder, but surrendered instead. Zhuge Liang told him NOT to build his camp on top of a mountain for that same reason.
I think what got me with this ending scene is how everyone's ambition to bring about a prosperous, simple and peaceful era through their rulership. All kingdoms have suffered considerably and were losing legendary heroes by the handfuls. Until they were really down to incapable and incompetent successors. Like Wei, with Cao Cao - Wei was successful. Cao Pi, somewhat but kept things going. Then you get to Cao Rui, Cao Fang, Cao Yuan and yeah, Wei died on the inside through the last three. Liu Bei, Zhang Fei, Guan Yu and Zhuge Liang were what really kept Shu together until Liu Shan entered the picture and by that point, once Zhuge Liang passed, there went Shu. Sun Jian, Sun Quan, Sun Ce were what kept Wu together and things fell apart once all of them were gone. Each kingdom just suffered huge losses and it was easy to see why Jin just took over everything.
too bad they haven't covered the story after Shu's downfall... Jin had some officers like Jia Chong and Wen Yang who survived untill china unified under Jin Dynasty. that would be awesome if they make the story mode untill Wu's downfall
That would actually be BETTER! Cause its called the 3 kingdoms era. Not the 2 kingdoms. I mean sure Shu and Wei were more enemies the Wei and Wu. But I would like to know how Wu collapsed and Surrenders to Wei. And make Sun Hao (the last Emperor of Wu) either a playable character or have a battle that leads up to the fall of Wu!!! Now that would be a better Night of play then just playing the fall of Shu. I mean Wei and Shu are by far my favorite Kingdoms but....what about Wu????
When this franchise ends. This is the kind of ending I want in it. They made this ending as if it really was the last game. It has to end somehow. How do they keep on finding the info and add it? Does the story really end?
+edog Here They just keep going into details or going about it differently each game. DW7 was the first to really follow it insanely close. DW8 had more "what if?" scenarios. Add in new characters as well, and you have that.
+Waifu Rider I liked the return of the what if scenarios as well as improved gameplay mechanics but compared to the emotional cutscenes of number 7 the ones in 8 were inferior by a long shot, kinda ruined some aspects for me
They also have yet to include the actual final battle of the Three Kingdoms era, which takes place in 280. (It's only partially depicted in this cutscene)
this is something that is completely missing in both Dynasty Warriors 8 and 9: cinematic experience. This game's storytelling, the CG cutscenes, and (somehow) the voice acting were the best DW series has ever had.
Dw8 is alright. Not the same but better improvement than 7 due of elements, better empire features costumes except dw7 empire management is superior. Brought back free mode. 9 is good, they use similar engine like samurai warriors dialogue game cutscene. Cinematic would be better though but it too much money for it. Although people in japan prefered sw camp cutscene style on dw9 cutscene which is weird. New characters is awesome, good open world. Shitty clone weapons I cant wait to see open world version 2 coming on dynasty warriors 10
@@breezywarhead8489i am sorry, but the person you replied is talking about voice acting, storytelling and cg bro. And here you talk about game engines, free mode, empire....
The most beautiful thing about Dynasty Warriors is that, just like in real life, no one is right. Everyone fights for what they believe in, and sometimes act out of character because of emotions running high. Shu stood for virtue, but they did some very nasty things, Wei stood for Order, but their leaders had no order to speak of, with most of the family members killing each other in later years, and Wu.....well....idk what they really stood for, but they had their problems aswell.
TheIceman20 Late reply, but they stood for Peace, they wanted to make a land of peace that the Sun family can live within. They fought for family and for peace
Shu taught us that no matter how kind and benevolence we are,wrath and revenge will destroy ourself and even our kingdom/family...remember battle of Yiling
Indeed Pang Tong's death was a sudden event that took Zhuge Liang by surprised. The orginial idea was Zhuge Liang was going to be in Jing with Pang Tong in Yi, but changed after his death and Guan Yu became the sole defender of Jing so Zhuge Liang could assist Liu Bei in capturing Yi. Yue Ying helped in the backgrounds mostly with inventions that Zhuge Liang took credit for
the thing who will made this ending even more epic is too see at the end the evil eyes of Sima Yi but limpid it was all a part of his plan and put more chill in the ending
Lu Bu: No one can surpass me! Not now, not ever! Zhang Fei: I'll be on my rampage until this chaos comes to an end! Sun Ce: I'm gonna win, win, and win some more! Taishi Ci: I live for the day this chaos comes to an end! Xiahou Dun: I can never be defeated, for I fight to protect a greater cause! Guan Yu: We will bring justice back to this world, no matter what the cost!
remember that Ding Feng was still around even though he was extremely old during the rise of Jin and establishment. I strongly think Wu could have held out on different areas. First, the Jiang Dong river always kept Wei and early Jin officers in check. Lu Kang held the Jin forces at bay until his death. If Sun Hao wasn't a tyrant, many of Wu officers would have continued fighting until the end. Most of the conquered Shu were still new recruits and not very loyal to Jin and Sima Yan.
As tragic as the fate of the three kingdoms had become, I can't lie but the last frame of the portraits of the leaders of the Sima Clan looks really awesome.
It was already a given that once Wei was defeated that Shu and Wu would fight one another. I forget the exact saying but I believe a Wu emissary is discussing things and when it came to the defeat of Wei Zhuge Liang and says something like "There cannot be two suns in the sky." Saying pretty straight that they will come to blows.
Zhuge Liang didn't help Wu as much as people say. Granted, he served as an advisor in Chibi but that was pretty much it. The fire attack was originally Huang Gai's idea. Historically, he never summoned the winds but asked fisherman alongside Red Cliff (Chibi) and learned that the wind would change only one day during that season. Zhuge Liang did indeed saw through a couple of Zhou Yu's plans, but not all as stated in the novel. I think it would have been harder, but Wu would still be victorious
Remember that the Sima Clan held all the actual power in Wei for numerous years, since about the death of Cao Pi, so it would actually the Sima's victory.
I kinda want them to add the second generation of the Sun and Sima factions, play as Sima Yan or another character and destroy Wu or play as the tyrant Sun Hao or Lu Kai or Kang. We know the Yellow Turban Rebellion, Coalition Against Dong Zhou, Guandu and the forming of the Three Kingdoms, we even know the fall of Shu but other than that we don't get to play further, I want to play through being the Jin Dynasty and the fall of Eastern Wu, then we can have the epilogue which hints at the War of the Eight Princes. Hmm... Guess I'll just have to settle by playing Rotk 10-13&14.
by that time, Jiang Wei was using ALL of their resources and not gaining ground. He only gained two major places of Didao and regained Jieting. Plus I agree....Sima Zhao of Jin was just too hard and big to conquer.
just love how everyone hates Jin.....honestly by near the end, the Jin Kingdom was the best. Shu was terrible after the death of Zhuge Liang and Du Yu and honestly, Jiang Wei was just a pain in the ass of Wei, until Sima Zhao finally had enough of his constant attacks. Once Sun Lin and Sun Hao came to power, you had to be EXTREMELY brave to live there considering how evil and cold hearted they were. Honestly, I would have rather lived within Jin because of stupidity within Shu and cruelty in Wu
I wish Koei would add Jin's conquest of Wu. It would be awesome to invade Jianye as Sima Yan or Wang Jun and defeat Sun Hao and finally bring an end to the chaos.
i can agree to that. After Sun Xiu passed, all hell went loose in Wu, though Sun Xiu was nowhere near as good as Sun Quan. Sun Liang was okay though. After the conquest of Wu, Sima Yan went from good to terrible, wasting resources for his own personal use.
About 90% of Shu officers didn't want to go to war over the death of Guan Yu because they all knew that Guan Yu did this to himself. His ego could not be tamed, he refused all peace offerings from Sun Quan, was told that Liu Bei wanted to return a single city but Guan Yu refused to do so. Guan Yu raided several small Wu cities stealing their grain and horses for his upcoming war with Wei, got into a fight with other Shu officers over small shit (like having flags ready by a certain time), etc.
Wu was about being free from the chaos, but at the same time earning glory and prestige for their names which really fits right in because Sun Quan is the least popular of the major three, accomplished the least, and in his old age stirred up internal conflict in his kingdom.
Unfortunately, the Jin Dynasty didn't have It all figured out after Wu surrendered. Both Sima Yi and Sima Shi had selected the right son as their successor. The Emperor Wu of Jin, Sima Yan however, decided to gave the throne to a developmentally disabled son, Sima Zhong, leaving the empire in the hands of nobles intent on shedding each other's blood for power. After the "War of the Eight Princes", and the "Uprising of the Five Barbarians", the Western Jin period ended with the execution of Sima Ye (Emperor Min of Jin). Sima Rui,, together with the remaining royal family, then reestabilished Jin in Jiankang (Nanjing), or Jiànyè, which is ironic since It was the former capital of Wu Kingdom. Jin would last for another century, and they also defeated the short-lived state of Former Qin at the Battle of Fei River, before finally succeeded by Liu Song Dynasty in 420 AD, two hundred years after the fall of Han. The war continued between the Northern and Southern Dynasties for another century, until Yang Jian, who estabilished the Sui Dynasty, reunified the land under one rule once again. _The perfect sequel for the series._
Pang Tong was indeed killed in battle against Liu Zhang's forces with Zhang Ren as one of the main commanders who took credit for it. Another instance where someone else took credit was Hua Xiong at Sishui. Hua Xiong was killed in a skirmish against Sun Jian with Sun Jian taking the credit when it was a lone regular soldier .
Shu no longer had the resources to stand up against Wei due to Jiang Wei using almost all of it in futile campaigns against the North. If I was Jiang Wei, I would launch two campaigns, one small one and then one major offensive. The reason would so I could see what Wei generals stood before me, but useless ones from the small campaign and the equal or better ones from the larger campaign. Knowing I would be up against Deng Ai in several battles, the first thing I would do is to spread false rumors against him much like Zhuge Liang did with Sima Yi. I would try to employ him and if unable to do so, have him sent back to Luoyang to answer for his fake crimes. Afterwards, I would enlist the aid of the bandits close to Xiliang borders and send messages to Wu, asking them to strike Xiapi (a major foothood for Wei) and not Hefei Castle. Wei would send a divergent of their forces to stop the invasion of Wu (probably would be led by Zhuge Ke at that time) allowing me to strike with less enemy soldiers. I would divide my armies into three, two led by war generals and one led by domestic and strike from Hanzhong, Anding and Tianshui marching to Changan. At this time, probably Zhong Hui would be the bigger threat but still not enough to overcome me since most of Wei forces were having to focus the defense against Zhuge Ke armies of Wu. One of my armies would go to Xiangyang and strike north through Fan castle while the other two and Xiliang bandits would continue to work their way towards Changan. Zhuge Ke of Wu is extremely smart by also arrogant so I would think he would have been defeated by now and Sima Zhao is looking back towards taking Changan and Wan (from Fan castle). I would have relocated the population from Wan back to Fan castle and my personal forces would have left Changan. I would leave five hundred troops in both areas that are now defenseless. Both Changan and Wan would have heavily trapped with bombs and fires breaking out everywhere and pounding of drums (making it seem my defenses were much bigger than actual size) while sending one hundred troops disguised as Wei troops to Luoyang. At this point if either Zhong Hui or Deng Ai not dead at this point, they would have to relocate their severely weakened forces back to Luoyang to prepare for my attack. While they retreat inside Luoyang, my one hundred soldiers would mingle in with theirs. When the attack of Luoyang begins, my one hundred troops within the enemy ranks would start fires and start riots everywhere. causing much more confusion. Luoyang is heavily defended and I would launch a massive attack as hard as possible. My armies would attack the south gate while the Xiliang bandits (still paying them) would attack the north gate. Say after a few weeks of riots, fires, sieges and skirmishes Luoyang would fall and any defense between myself and Xuchang is utterly destroyed and their morale crushed.
Even considering that this comment was 2 years ago, i’ll still try to argue against you. 1. Shu never had any capability of taking out Wei even when Zhuge Liang was alive, Wei had more than quadruple the population Shu had and shu was already heavily militarized (10% of the population were soldiers) 2. The strat to sow discontent among Deng Ai won’t work, when Sima Yi was hit with he was a subordinate under Cao Rui, a far less capable person than Sima Yi(who basically controlled Wei at this point) 3. Enlisting the bandits of Xiliang might work unless Wei pays them a higher price which is likely as Wei has a higher base income than Shu 4. Strategy with Wu implies that Wu will do exactly as you want, one of the times that a coordinated attack was performed by Wu and Shu resulted in catastrophe for Wu. 5. Fooling Sima Zhao with the 500 soldiers in each garrison strat might work, unless Sima Zhao just crushes Wu and you’d be trading north western china for Wu. Edit: More context on the first one, the reason that Shu managed some tiny bit of success during Zhuge Liang’s northern campaign is of course Wu’s presence. Although disputedly Both Shu and Wu’s population counts were still lower combined compared to Wei
The Three KIngdoms fell but a man named Tuoba Gui ( son or grandson of the Qin dynasty ) reashtablished his kingdom and he named his kingdom Northern Wei. So Wei is still alive
NO northern wei then spit into East and west wei the west became northern Zhou while the east became north qi which then was conquered by yang jian as part of his unification under sui dynasty
Shu:Guan Yu: Killed by Wei soliders. Zhang Fei: Killed by his own men. Guan Ping: Killed by Xu Huang. Wei Yan: Killed in the battle of Wu Zhang Plains. Wei: Xiahou Yuan: KIlled by Huang Zhong. Dian Wei: Killed protecting Cao Cao. Wu: Sun Jian & Sun Ce: Shot by arrows. Lu Meng: Killed in the battle of Fan Castle. Other: Yan Liang & Wen Chou: Killed by Guan Yu. Lu Bu: Killed by Cao Cao. Dong Zhuo: Killed by Lu Bu. Zhang Jiao: Killed by the allied forces. If I missed anyone, please comment:) .
Pang Tong wasn't affiliated with Shu at the time. The whole incident was invented for the book, the fire attack on the ships was a tiny part of the entire campaign. Zhuge Liang did not predict the wind, Wu had already won far before they set fire the ships, Cao Cao lost because of over taxing his men and disease. Shu's contribution to Chibi was sailing Guan Yu up to fight Yu Jin whom promptly kicked his useless ass back. All they did was steal one city and then beg for 3 more(Rest of jing)
actually Guo Jia came up with several lgood strategy. He thought of flooding Lu Bu, thrawting the Yuans from the inside, Liaodong strategy and several others. After his untimely death, Cao Cao could have won Chi Bi
@@rodrigocofre693 yeah , it's cause the politics and soldiers Power of Wei . Wei is like China , and Wu It's America and Shu It's Iran , Shu Always have War with Wei , and get betrayed by Wu , i like this era of chaos , It's so Very pretty Chaos .
Zhuge Liang was tried by several times to serve Sun Quan but refused all efforts even from Zhuge Jin begging him. Hard to say though it would increase their chances a little bit and Hefei probably would have been a Wu victory but I doubt dealing with Hefei Castle. If I were Sun Quan, I would send him to continue Zhou Yu's work after his death, thereby fulfilling Zhou Yu's dream of Wu in the South and Wei in the north.
They're still a lot of things like the real cause of Sima Shi's death(It was Wen Yang) and how Wu really fell since it didn't just fall that easily. It fought Jin for a number of years before Jin invaded a weakened Wu.
1 - Sun Tzu is best strategist in the history of China 2 - Pang Tong was better than Zhuge Liang. 3 - Sima Yi could be nothing if cao cao still alive. But Liu Shan, Sun Quan's spoiler son....damn useless kings.
Lu Bu VS Zhang Fei Sun Ce VS Taishi Ci Xiahou Dun VS Guan Yu Zhou Yu VS Zhuge Liang Gan Ning VS Zhang Liao Huang Zhong VS Xiahou Yuan Deng Ai VS Jiang Wei
Wait if you really think about it Cao Cao and Sima Zhao followed the same path Cao Cao took the title King of Wei, not becoming Emperor of Wei, and died in 220 AD, his son Cao Pi forced the Han Emperor to abdicate and became Emperor of Wei not long after Cao Cao died. However after Cao Pi died and Cao Rui took rule over Wei, there was rising tensions in Wei's court between Sima Yi and Cao Shuang. After Cao Rui died and Cao Fang took the throne Sima Yi and Cao Shuang were both fighting each other politically and the incident of Gaoping Tombs where Sima Yi killed a lot of the Cao Imperial family in 249 AD. Sima Zhao took the title King of Jin, not becoming Emperor, and died in 265 AD, his son Sima Yan forced the Wei Emperor to abdicate, then Wu surrendered after a lot of in fighting and began to lose power. Sima Yan united the Three Kingdoms into the Jin Dynasty however after his death, then political tensions between the imperial family started to form, after Sima Yan died, and Sima Zhong took power but Sima Liang became Sima Zhong's regent and later down the road there was a lot of infighting within the Imperial court which led to the War of the Eight Princes. Am I the only one that noticed that Cao Wei and Jin basically followed the same path, and followed the same fate?
Actually Sun Xiu chose his son Sun Wan to be his sucessor on his deathbed, but Puyang Xing the prime minister did not follow and chose Hao instead.So if Puyang Xing had follow Sun Xiu wishes, Wu might hanged on maybe until the death of Sima Yan
because Wu rightfully won these lands after Chibi and Liu Bei promised on at least three different occassions that he would return them but EVERY time he came up with an excuse. Liu Bei had no home to call, so Sun Quan let him borrow Jing until Liu conquered Yi but even after that, they refused to return the province. There was no other choice to regain Jing other than war.
Nobody was really a villain Cao Cao was just very ambitious which made him come across as a potential dictator but in reality he just wanted to create order.
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that last cutscene with all the warriors, fighting with each other amongst the flames... i no words to describe it's epicness
Dude I just came back to 10 years ago this was my childhood
Your reply brought me back here to witness this again... Thank you, brother
@@Its_Lu_Buamazing you still used the same account
I no words too (don't take it seriously)
DW7's story telling was simply amazing.
It was the best out of all of them so far for me🔥
ik, DW8 story just felt kinda lazy, but I will give them credit for the hypothetical route
Agreed, the best in the series imo. Wished they kept it, it literally got me interested throughout the whole playthrough. Loved every bit of it.
Definitely
Im glad its the only Dw game i played
That scene with Sima Zhao and Wang Yuanji reminds me of a Windows wallpaper.
Sima Zhao took the title "King of Windows"
lol
Probably
*cue shutdown music*
Man, i knew something is fishy about that scenery
Feels like a legit documentary footage about the Three Kingdoms. The narration is top notch.
The narrator of this game is Douglas Lee a.k.a Huang Gai's English VA
Probably one of the best endings I've seen in a game. You get chills all the way through the end. Incredible.
This ending is so well done, always leaves me teary eyed.
Even more sad when uyghur khaganate fallen
Dynasty Warriors 7 is the best of all the games, because in this they did focus more on the history, then just make a fun game. They still made DW7 like the others but made an effort on the history on the three kingdoms then they had before. Its such an AMAZING story. plus the soundtracks in the cutscenes is awesome, gives it a more "war" vibe then before:)
I completely agree with you 100%
I complete almost all the way. Personally I see DW7 as a bit of a spiritual successor to DW4. Where as 4 didn't the strict historical narrative it was very fun, and very replayable, unlike DW6, the disaster that it was. They made excellent cutscenes with top notch voice work and a killer soundtrack, with new new designs that actually fit characters, looking at you again 6. However, the one this I dislike most is they kept the damn Bow weapons from 6, in my eyes probably the singular worst weapons in all the games.
I have to agree with my friend this came out when I turned 18 and I Shipped out to Afghanistan a year later in my downtown not on patrol I asked my grandfather to send me the Romance of the Three kingdoms and a book on the three kingdoms era...it's a fun game but historically it's awful how much bloodshed civil war Chinese history was but it was also so mind boggling reading Zhuge Liangs book interpretating The Art of War of Sun Tzu.....I still can't believe how far back in history it was but yet Zhuge Liang was really indeed a genius.
nah 8 was better in both story and gameplay only thing that sucked was no dub 7's gameplay was a drag with all the clones
The best? Not really is decent. They remove morales, peons are easy to kill, no free mode, too many weapon clones. But in terms of story mode is the best in the franchise
The Sima clan didn't last either. When it fell, 4 clans rose to fight for control, they were Song, Chen, Qi, and Liang. They could move on to the next chapter so to speak, but they named their game series after the Three Kingdoms, so they are pretty much stuck in this era. I also doubt people would like to see a new story with new characters after playing with their favourites for so long. Right?
I would. I don't mind seeing a whole new game, it'd be refreshing. They can continue DW but a new series would be cool.
Same here dude, with 9 entries I wouldn’t mind the story of ancient China continuing past the Three Kngdoms.
@@LuckiSir There's a lot they could do, they can literally have a "Three Kingdoms" story mode and then the new era story mode after. But nah, lazy developers, lol. I think we'd have an insane character roster though.
As a lifelong fan of DW games, I would also be more than ready for the series to move on in that direction. Honestly, after 7, the others were big let downs and I've lost interest.
I know right I wanted to know what happened after the Jin Dynasty
the thing is, Wu could have held against Jin but Sun Hao was worse than Liu Chan in terms of leadership and proved to be a ruthless and hateful tyrant. He would even order his guards to pluck out eyes of his own advisors if he even SUSPECTED of treason. After the death of Lu Xun and Ding Feng, Wu's only last hope was Lu Kang, the son of Lu Xun, but not even he could prevent the decay within. Lu Kang was considered the last hero of Wu.
Technically Sun Hao is a Dong Zhuo of Wu
If Koei ever shows more of Jin VS Wu, I wanna see Lu Kang and Sima Yan one of these days
@@priscillam.t.6215 I agree! Sima Yan vs Sun Hao!
Another thing i’d like to add, i find it ironic that Wei ended the same way how the Han ended, when Cao Pi forced Emperor Xian to abdicate. Karma’s a bitch.
Looks like the god of fire Lu Kang couldn’t save Wu
The absolute best ending to any dynasty warriors
Despite being wary of Sima Yi, Cao Pi relied on him heavily and considered him a friend. When Cao Rui came to power after his father died he greatly respected Sima Yi and knew that if he was in the East than Sima Yi would watch the West and vice versa. Hence why when Cao Rui personally lead troops, such as when he defeated Sun Quan's army before Zhuge Liang and Sima Yi would fight at Wuzhang Plains, he was at ease. He also understood Sima Yi's thinking very well too.
Historically?
This game is the proof that storytelling is more crucial the story itself. Events that happened two millenia ago, stories that had been told countless times in different media. Yet here stands the seventh game of a series that consistently tell the same story, surpassing all before (and after) it in telling those events over again and affecting the people witnessing the story they already know of once again unlike any other before it.
Deng Ai: Nothing is like the way it was before today. We live in a world that is always changing.
Jiang Wei: I won't stop until I've fulfilled my duty!
Honestly my favorite part of the montage.
@SharKing Deng Ai’s line is my favorite and is the most impactful in my opinion for that it reflects the whole story mode of DW7.
This was the perfect ending and I don't think any other DW game can surpass this one. After the massive garbage that was 6, they really fixed everything here. It was historical, it let you play the most important character in a kingdom's scenario, it made Cao Cao who was a one-dimensional villain in past games in to a realistic character that made sense. It made every kingdom sympathetic and showcased their viewpoints well. Then at this ending, it perfectly captures the bitter feeling everyone that was a fan of history had when they first found out all three kingdoms lost in the end and was taken over by Jin. So many heroes from Cao Cao, to the three brothers, to Sun Ce, and for all of it to die.
I actually liked the Renbu combat system in DW6. Being able to dodge roll (sorely, sorely needed in Dynasty Warriors for a long time), properly block and parry, and even counter attack from a blocking position, which meant you actually had to perform techniques other than just spamming the attack button with the "Charge" system from previous games until the other enemy died. If they didn't make it so the Renbu meter got lower and lower while you were out of combat, and instead tied it to your weapon (like they did in DW6 Empires), it would have been much better combat system. But alas, Dynasty Warriors fans HATE change, so they brought back the old Charge system for DW7 (a change I personally disliked). On the other hand of course, I HATED the character design, and ESPECIALLY hated DW6 for almost entirely abandoning the historical course of the Three Kingdoms in favour of each character having their own generic personal story of achieving unificiation.
The problem with DW7 is that it didn't demonstrate the fact that the Sima clan were almost entirely the root cause of Wei's instability. Unfortunately for Wei, they RELIED in Sima Yi to repel Shu while Zhuge Liang was still alive, and once he died, Sima Yi used his newfound influence in Wei to plot his own rise to power, then passed this ambition on to his sons, who eventually purged Wei of Cao members until the emperor was simply a figurehead to appease the masses. I'd arguably even say Sima Yi was WORSE than Cao Cao, since at least Cao Cao took an unstable government and stabilised it by installing himself and his many talented generals and court members at the head, whereas Sima Yi essentially did the opposite. The Jin Dynasty didn't even last long itself before it broke apart due to internal strife.
BUT, DW7 was a great game nontheless, my second favourite personally (behind 3) just for sticking strictly to the Three Kingdoms story. That and the soundtrack is arguably the best in the entire series.
If you see the ending of the movie the Forbiddeng Kingdom is just beutiful
You can't forget about the story telling. Unlike the other games I was completely interested in the telling of the events. They did a great job with that especially the narrator, we got to give him props.
Cao Ang Personally, I didn't have any major problems with Dynasty Warriors 6. I honestly saw DW 6 as a sort of experiment, a preview at what direction DW 7 might take considering appearances. Having different voice actors casted for the English Dub, very different character designs, and the Renbu combat system, gave off that impression.
Story? Yes
Gameplay? No, too many clones,
If only KOEI can make the story just like DW7, each characters have their own character development just like DW6 (but for all of them, not like DW6 that only for some characters), have their own story mode just like DW 5, and good gameplay no weapon clones like DW8
If KOEI wants their fans to be happy then why don't they work harder?
Btw sorry for bad english
Probably the #1 best storytelling in the Dynasty Warriors series. The narrator made it feel like you as the player was part of history. The introduction to the Jin Kingdom and the hyothetical route was very enjoyable and gives the series a fresh new content. It's very crazy how some of them were still fighting each other in the afterlife despite the fact that the Sima clan was the one that conqured all 3 kingdoms. The only downside i have with the series is that in Dynasty Warriors 9, they went back to weapon cloning and the enlgish voice actors for a majority of the warriors didn't fit well except for the newly playable characters.
It went from this LEGENDARY game to whatever game 9 is or was… sad how this game fell after this…
Thumbs up if u cried after watching this.
I did when the Narrator said "thereby destroying the Kingdom of Wei"!!!
:'( tears cause Wei is my favorite Kingdom...cause of Cao Cao!!!!
@@liniaustin8525 The reason why Wei is my Favorite Dynasty Warriors Faction because Blue is my Favorite Color.
Imagine if Cao Cao, Liu Bei, and Sun Jian just there in Heaven, drinking Tea and laugh about their Battles
and they all laugh at Sima Yi for his generation causing another age of war
@@diephoainambui9682 war of 8 princes
@@raymondchujr1227 and later another outside invaders causing a North-South war until Sui dynasty appeared and united the land
@@diephoainambui9682 and then this li yuan guy took changan while sui emperor was away
@@raymondchujr1227 the later sui emperor cuz the former one who united the land passed away, and then Teng dynasty was born
Legit got a few shivers watching this. Well done.
The greatest part of this epilogue is throughout the entire game even the movies and books and history you resonate with a story of the three and hope and pray they win. But the more you play and understand the history you realize the quote "war doesn't determine who is right only who is left" it really sounds loud when you realize of the three kingdoms who won?.......none of them....
Your last statement about war is exactly why this was the best Dynasty Warriors ending or story in general. A lot of the games fail to tell us that no matter how badass these warriors were this all resulted into lost lives in war
The empire, long divided, must unite; long united, must divide. Thus it has ever been.
This should’ve been the final cutscene for the franchise
They all fought for a reason that inspired them to live and throughout this epic scene you get to see all those focused on ending this chaod
Quite honest, and believe me im not being bias at all (Although i believe shu was right all along), the only ones who really wanted to end the conflict was liu bei. Liu Bei cared for the people, Sun Quan cared for his people and Cao Cao cared for...well, himself
Zhou Yu: All of my strength, I devote to those I love.
Zhuge Liang: I only care that my efforts will restore peace to the land.
Gan Ning: I live for the fight!
Zhang Liao: My motivation lies in my pursuit to perfect my might.
Huang Zhong: When I die, I only hope that it will be on the field of battle.
Xiahou Yuan: My bow has never missed its mark!
For all the people talking about Yi Ling:
It wasn't a terrible idea. Liu Bei simply had terrrible luck with the weather. He effectively plowed through what Wu resistance he found.
But:
1. Terrible heat forced him to put his men in the forest, or they'd die from the heat. This enabled a very successful fire attack, but that was not alone the major problem.
2. Rain(ironic, isn't it) had plagued the route back, so when Liu retreated, a landslide wiped out a good part of his troops.
La culpa la tuvo Wu después de traicionar a Shu matando a Guan Yu, el Dios de la Guerra, un efecto mariposa más que importante porque a partir de ese acotecimiento arrancaría el comienzo del fin de los 3 reinos, porque de derrocar a Wei, Sima Yi podría haber sido una Rebelión más (dudo que haya sido convocado por Shu o Wu teniendo a los estrategas como Zhuge Liang y Lu Xun)
Yes. I read that it was actually a pretty reasonable decision, especially since Shu couldn't beat Wei without taking Jingzhou back.
I really think that dynasty warriors 7 is where they should have ended the series. It was the most historically accurate and treated all the characters with equal respect and this ending really shows off the bitter sweetness and really pointlessness of the war in the end. Most definitely my favourite game.
I've played Dynasty Warriors 8 (Original, Empires, and Extreme Legends) Should I play Dynasty Warriors 7 Extreme Legends?
+MHCP001 Yui it is very much DLC but yeah. It has some fun stages and you get to play as the nonplayanle characters from DW7
Treat everyone with respect? I would agree but that Zhang LIao death at the hands of Sun Quan was just historically wrong and disrespectful lol. Also too many clones. So happy DW8 happened and even more So DW8 XL/CE(best game in my opinion and I'd be okay if it ended here because you have both the historical and hypothetical paths).
jsmasterlubu3 Fair enough, I though Zhang Liao's death was beffiting for the character that Koei created(which was sadly not the historical figure fully), as it created a good contrast between him and Sun Quan. Zhang Liao is a warrior, fighting with honour and never surrendering despite all odds, Sun Quan is a leader, fighting with others to achieve goals, knowing when to retreat and also occasionally having to use the underhand method to succeed. But that's just how I see it and I did enjoy DW8. I just think DW7 had the best story.
Uh, every dynasty warriors are about the same thing every single game, they just retell it slightly differently each time there's no sequels to this type of historical story telling
Every time I watching the end of the Three Kingdom,I feel sad......
The best game because of this. DW7 was a phenomenal entry and they never got back to it. Not even the 2010 show had such an ending.
DW6 was always a game I played as a kid. Never cared much for the story, and focused solely on the mindless hack-and-slash entertainment of it all. I'd go to my grandparents every Saturday, plug in my 360, and play for a few hours on the living room TV.
Here I am now, 23 years old, revisiting the series, moments after finishing all of DW7's stories, and god damn. This ending scene completely solidified my love for these games. I didn't think I cared much about it, but I didn't realise how surprisingly invested I was in its characters and historical storytelling. Zhuge Liang will also always be my favourite. Can't figure out why. But he always comes to the front of my mind.
That final visual of some significant characters speaking their reasoning behind their actions, with an ending shot of Sun Quan, Liu Bei and Cao Cao... my god. 💙
I've never played DW8, so I'm excited about that. All I can do is simply hope that it beats my expectations like this one did.
Now, onto DW7 Conquest Mode...
Zhuge Liang's biggest mistake was not having enough food supply for the northern campaign and trusting Ma Su too much. Ma Su was a good officer but he was cocky during his later years from success and used a stragety which proved his failure by blocking his own water supply. he believed the soldiers would fight harder, but surrendered instead. Zhuge Liang told him NOT to build his camp on top of a mountain for that same reason.
Ans then Ma Su dead, for his fault
I've always said...they could've ended the series right HERE.
And I wouldn't have been disappointed
"The three kingdoms chaos has come to an end!"
The Eight Princes: "Oh yeah, about that...."
I think what got me with this ending scene is how everyone's ambition to bring about a prosperous, simple and peaceful era through their rulership. All kingdoms have suffered considerably and were losing legendary heroes by the handfuls. Until they were really down to incapable and incompetent successors. Like Wei, with Cao Cao - Wei was successful. Cao Pi, somewhat but kept things going. Then you get to Cao Rui, Cao Fang, Cao Yuan and yeah, Wei died on the inside through the last three.
Liu Bei, Zhang Fei, Guan Yu and Zhuge Liang were what really kept Shu together until Liu Shan entered the picture and by that point, once Zhuge Liang passed, there went Shu.
Sun Jian, Sun Quan, Sun Ce were what kept Wu together and things fell apart once all of them were gone.
Each kingdom just suffered huge losses and it was easy to see why Jin just took over everything.
too bad they haven't covered the story after Shu's downfall... Jin had some officers like Jia Chong and Wen Yang who survived untill china unified under Jin Dynasty.
that would be awesome if they make the story mode untill Wu's downfall
I would love to see Sima Yan as playable character
@@vasily3127 HAHAHA imagine playing Sima Yan in a Yellow Turban stage in free mode🤣
@@muhammadzariff7075 lmao😂
Well, I am glad that these two characters made it to the the series, however, covering the fall of Wu is yet to be added completely
That would actually be BETTER! Cause its called the 3 kingdoms era. Not the 2 kingdoms. I mean sure Shu and Wei were more enemies the Wei and Wu. But I would like to know how Wu collapsed and Surrenders to Wei. And make Sun Hao (the last Emperor of Wu) either a playable character or have a battle that leads up to the fall of Wu!!!
Now that would be a better Night of play then just playing the fall of Shu. I mean Wei and Shu are by far my favorite Kingdoms but....what about Wu????
Never stop crying from this video
I absolutely love the last scene. I do wish they included Zhao Yun though
When this franchise ends. This is the kind of ending I want in it. They made this ending as if it really was the last game. It has to end somehow. How do they keep on finding the info and add it? Does the story really end?
+edog Here They just keep going into details or going about it differently each game. DW7 was the first to really follow it insanely close. DW8 had more "what if?" scenarios. Add in new characters as well, and you have that.
+Waifu Rider I liked the return of the what if scenarios as well as improved gameplay mechanics but compared to the emotional cutscenes of number 7 the ones in 8 were inferior by a long shot, kinda ruined some aspects for me
They also have yet to include the actual final battle of the Three Kingdoms era, which takes place in 280. (It's only partially depicted in this cutscene)
Well if you read up on this Jin Dynasty (265-420) you'll find it was hardly peaceful and it resulted in a 16 kingdom split.
this is something that is completely missing in both Dynasty Warriors 8 and 9: cinematic experience. This game's storytelling, the CG cutscenes, and (somehow) the voice acting were the best DW series has ever had.
Dw8 is alright. Not the same but better improvement than 7 due of elements, better empire features costumes except dw7 empire management is superior. Brought back free mode.
9 is good, they use similar engine like samurai warriors dialogue game cutscene. Cinematic would be better though but it too much money for it. Although people in japan prefered sw camp cutscene style on dw9 cutscene which is weird. New characters is awesome, good open world. Shitty clone weapons
I cant wait to see open world version 2 coming on dynasty warriors 10
@@breezywarhead8489i am sorry, but the person you replied is talking about voice acting, storytelling and cg bro. And here you talk about game engines, free mode, empire....
@@MrSnake1994 true hahaha
The most beautiful thing about Dynasty Warriors is that, just like in real life, no one is right. Everyone fights for what they believe in, and sometimes act out of character because of emotions running high. Shu stood for virtue, but they did some very nasty things, Wei stood for Order, but their leaders had no order to speak of, with most of the family members killing each other in later years, and Wu.....well....idk what they really stood for, but they had their problems aswell.
TheIceman20 Late reply, but they stood for Peace, they wanted to make a land of peace that the Sun family can live within. They fought for family and for peace
Shu taught us that no matter how kind and benevolence we are,wrath and revenge will destroy ourself and even our kingdom/family...remember battle of Yiling
Most beautiful cutscene ever
The ending always gives me chills, dynasty warriors 7 was peak story telling
1:58 i really like the ancient screen picture with the king of sima yi , this is the best ending of all dynasty warriors series !!
This really is an amazing scene
i finally beat the Jin story a few days ago and i witnessed this amazing ass scene.
Imagine if they combined the story of DW7 with the content and graphics of DW8.
^ amazing idea.
The most tired mission of three kingdom
Indeed Pang Tong's death was a sudden event that took Zhuge Liang by surprised. The orginial idea was Zhuge Liang was going to be in Jing with Pang Tong in Yi, but changed after his death and Guan Yu became the sole defender of Jing so Zhuge Liang could assist Liu Bei in capturing Yi. Yue Ying helped in the backgrounds mostly with inventions that Zhuge Liang took credit for
the thing who will made this ending even more epic is too see at the end the evil eyes of Sima Yi but limpid it was all a part of his plan and put more chill in the ending
Lu Bu: No one can surpass me! Not now, not ever!
Zhang Fei: I'll be on my rampage until this chaos comes to an end!
Sun Ce: I'm gonna win, win, and win some more!
Taishi Ci: I live for the day this chaos comes to an end!
Xiahou Dun: I can never be defeated, for I fight to protect a greater cause!
Guan Yu: We will bring justice back to this world, no matter what the cost!
remember that Ding Feng was still around even though he was extremely old during the rise of Jin and establishment. I strongly think Wu could have held out on different areas. First, the Jiang Dong river always kept Wei and early Jin officers in check. Lu Kang held the Jin forces at bay until his death. If Sun Hao wasn't a tyrant, many of Wu officers would have continued fighting until the end. Most of the conquered Shu were still new recruits and not very loyal to Jin and Sima Yan.
The ending was chilling..
Who‘s here after playing Dynasty Warriors 9 and rewatches this masterpiece of an ending?
misscantarella me
@@whenthefirenationattacked2607 here
Hoo! Still sends shivers down the spine.
As tragic as the fate of the three kingdoms had become, I can't lie but the last frame of the portraits of the leaders of the Sima Clan looks really awesome.
It was already a given that once Wei was defeated that Shu and Wu would fight one another. I forget the exact saying but I believe a Wu emissary is discussing things and when it came to the defeat of Wei Zhuge Liang and says something like "There cannot be two suns in the sky." Saying pretty straight that they will come to blows.
The part with the fire is absolute KINO
If only they lived together happily!
Zhuge Liang didn't help Wu as much as people say. Granted, he served as an advisor in Chibi but that was pretty much it. The fire attack was originally Huang Gai's idea. Historically, he never summoned the winds but asked fisherman alongside Red Cliff (Chibi) and learned that the wind would change only one day during that season. Zhuge Liang did indeed saw through a couple of Zhou Yu's plans, but not all as stated in the novel. I think it would have been harder, but Wu would still be victorious
I would have liked to see Cao cao take on Sima Yi in tactics and strategy. Think that could be interesting.
Remember that the Sima Clan held all the actual power in Wei for numerous years, since about the death of Cao Pi, so it would actually the Sima's victory.
I kinda want them to add the second generation of the Sun and Sima factions, play as Sima Yan or another character and destroy Wu or play as the tyrant Sun Hao or Lu Kai or Kang.
We know the Yellow Turban Rebellion, Coalition Against Dong Zhou, Guandu and the forming of the Three Kingdoms, we even know the fall of Shu but other than that we don't get to play further, I want to play through being the Jin Dynasty and the fall of Eastern Wu, then we can have the epilogue which hints at the War of the Eight Princes.
Hmm... Guess I'll just have to settle by playing Rotk 10-13&14.
Definitely the best ending yet. Teared up, no joke.
Jin ending is true ending and historically accurate
by that time, Jiang Wei was using ALL of their resources and not gaining ground. He only gained two major places of Didao and regained Jieting. Plus I agree....Sima Zhao of Jin was just too hard and big to conquer.
The storytelling of DW7 is by far the best yet.
just love how everyone hates Jin.....honestly by near the end, the Jin Kingdom was the best. Shu was terrible after the death of Zhuge Liang and Du Yu and honestly, Jiang Wei was just a pain in the ass of Wei, until Sima Zhao finally had enough of his constant attacks. Once Sun Lin and Sun Hao came to power, you had to be EXTREMELY brave to live there considering how evil and cold hearted they were. Honestly, I would have rather lived within Jin because of stupidity within Shu and cruelty in Wu
Zhao Yun: " Lord please wait! Now is not the time to attack Wu! We just join with them, to attack Cao Cao!" - DW3
Tang526 “‘Never! i will destroy Wu. who cares about Cao Cao?! i shall never forgive them.. Never!”
My favorite game
When they killed Guan Yu and zhang Fei men cut his head off
“What other reason....DO WE NEED?!”
I wish Koei would add Jin's conquest of Wu. It would be awesome to invade Jianye as Sima Yan or Wang Jun and defeat Sun Hao and finally bring an end to the chaos.
@Noel T. Lat What would Sun Hao's weapon be, and what would he look like?
0:20 "He [Sima Zhao] died a year later."
Sima Zhao: "Wait...what?!"
i can agree to that. After Sun Xiu passed, all hell went loose in Wu, though Sun Xiu was nowhere near as good as Sun Quan. Sun Liang was okay though. After the conquest of Wu, Sima Yan went from good to terrible, wasting resources for his own personal use.
About 90% of Shu officers didn't want to go to war over the death of Guan Yu because they all knew that Guan Yu did this to himself. His ego could not be tamed, he refused all peace offerings from Sun Quan, was told that Liu Bei wanted to return a single city but Guan Yu refused to do so. Guan Yu raided several small Wu cities stealing their grain and horses for his upcoming war with Wei, got into a fight with other Shu officers over small shit (like having flags ready by a certain time), etc.
so it was GuanYu fault
Wu was about being free from the chaos, but at the same time earning glory and prestige for their names which really fits right in because Sun Quan is the least popular of the major three, accomplished the least, and in his old age stirred up internal conflict in his kingdom.
Unfortunately, the Jin Dynasty didn't have It all figured out after Wu surrendered. Both Sima Yi and Sima Shi had selected the right son as their successor. The Emperor Wu of Jin, Sima Yan however, decided to gave the throne to a developmentally disabled son, Sima Zhong, leaving the empire in the hands of nobles intent on shedding each other's blood for power.
After the "War of the Eight Princes", and the "Uprising of the Five Barbarians", the Western Jin period ended with the execution of Sima Ye (Emperor Min of Jin).
Sima Rui,, together with the remaining royal family, then reestabilished Jin in Jiankang (Nanjing), or Jiànyè, which is ironic since It was the former capital of Wu Kingdom. Jin would last for another century, and they also defeated the short-lived state of Former Qin at the Battle of Fei River, before finally succeeded by Liu Song Dynasty in 420 AD, two hundred years after the fall of Han.
The war continued between the Northern and Southern Dynasties for another century, until Yang Jian, who estabilished the Sui Dynasty, reunified the land under one rule once again.
_The perfect sequel for the series._
this is by far the best ending Koei has ever done in any of its games PERIOD!
If DW10 were released, it should expand the Jin storyline by adding Sima Yan as a playable character.
Cao Ang no creo, pero Cao Hong se lo merece mucho. No entendí como no fué personaje jugable en el 9
Where tang dynasty
@cincityohiou forgot ma su already added to dynasty warrior
Pang Tong was indeed killed in battle against Liu Zhang's forces with Zhang Ren as one of the main commanders who took credit for it. Another instance where someone else took credit was Hua Xiong at Sishui. Hua Xiong was killed in a skirmish against Sun Jian with Sun Jian taking the credit when it was a lone regular soldier .
To be fair Pang Tong was ambushed which is ironic as he is meant to be a genius strategist, by the orders of that commander.
Shu no longer had the resources to stand up against Wei due to Jiang Wei using almost all of it in futile campaigns against the North. If I was Jiang Wei, I would launch two campaigns, one small one and then one major offensive. The reason would so I could see what Wei generals stood before me, but useless ones from the small campaign and the equal or better ones from the larger campaign. Knowing I would be up against Deng Ai in several battles, the first thing I would do is to spread false rumors against him much like Zhuge Liang did with Sima Yi. I would try to employ him and if unable to do so, have him sent back to Luoyang to answer for his fake crimes. Afterwards, I would enlist the aid of the bandits close to Xiliang borders and send messages to Wu, asking them to strike Xiapi (a major foothood for Wei) and not Hefei Castle. Wei would send a divergent of their forces to stop the invasion of Wu (probably would be led by Zhuge Ke at that time) allowing me to strike with less enemy soldiers. I would divide my armies into three, two led by war generals and one led by domestic and strike from Hanzhong, Anding and Tianshui marching to Changan. At this time, probably Zhong Hui would be the bigger threat but still not enough to overcome me since most of Wei forces were having to focus the defense against Zhuge Ke armies of Wu. One of my armies would go to Xiangyang and strike north through Fan castle while the other two and Xiliang bandits would continue to work their way towards Changan. Zhuge Ke of Wu is extremely smart by also arrogant so I would think he would have been defeated by now and Sima Zhao is looking back towards taking Changan and Wan (from Fan castle). I would have relocated the population from Wan back to Fan castle and my personal forces would have left Changan. I would leave five hundred troops in both areas that are now defenseless. Both Changan and Wan would have heavily trapped with bombs and fires breaking out everywhere and pounding of drums (making it seem my defenses were much bigger than actual size) while sending one hundred troops disguised as Wei troops to Luoyang. At this point if either Zhong Hui or Deng Ai not dead at this point, they would have to relocate their severely weakened forces back to Luoyang to prepare for my attack. While they retreat inside Luoyang, my one hundred soldiers would mingle in with theirs. When the attack of Luoyang begins, my one hundred troops within the enemy ranks would start fires and start riots everywhere. causing much more confusion. Luoyang is heavily defended and I would launch a massive attack as hard as possible. My armies would attack the south gate while the Xiliang bandits (still paying them) would attack the north gate. Say after a few weeks of riots, fires, sieges and skirmishes Luoyang would fall and any defense between myself and Xuchang is utterly destroyed and their morale crushed.
and no I am not a Shu loving fan and I LOVE Jin and Wu.
u were born in the wrong era
You would have been a good strategist for shu
You sir are what I imagine if I was Sun Ce and survived we'd unite China the RIGHT WAY...
Even considering that this comment was 2 years ago, i’ll still try to argue against you.
1. Shu never had any capability of taking out Wei even when Zhuge Liang was alive, Wei had more than quadruple the population Shu had and shu was already heavily militarized (10% of the population were soldiers)
2. The strat to sow discontent among Deng Ai won’t work, when Sima Yi was hit with he was a subordinate under Cao Rui, a far less capable person than Sima Yi(who basically controlled Wei at this point)
3. Enlisting the bandits of Xiliang might work unless Wei pays them a higher price which is likely as Wei has a higher base income than Shu
4. Strategy with Wu implies that Wu will do exactly as you want, one of the times that a coordinated attack was performed by Wu and Shu resulted in catastrophe for Wu.
5. Fooling Sima Zhao with the 500 soldiers in each garrison strat might work, unless Sima Zhao just crushes Wu and you’d be trading north western china for Wu.
Edit: More context on the first one, the reason that Shu managed some tiny bit of success during Zhuge Liang’s northern campaign is of course Wu’s presence. Although disputedly Both Shu and Wu’s population counts were still lower combined compared to Wei
The Three KIngdoms fell but a man named Tuoba Gui ( son or grandson of the Qin dynasty ) reashtablished his kingdom and he named his kingdom Northern Wei. So Wei is still alive
really
NO northern wei then spit into East and west wei the west became northern Zhou while the east became north qi which then was conquered by yang jian as part of his unification under sui dynasty
Shu:Guan Yu: Killed by Wei soliders.
Zhang Fei: Killed by his own men.
Guan Ping: Killed by Xu Huang.
Wei Yan: Killed in the battle of Wu Zhang Plains.
Wei: Xiahou Yuan: KIlled by Huang Zhong.
Dian Wei: Killed protecting Cao Cao.
Wu: Sun Jian & Sun Ce: Shot by arrows.
Lu Meng: Killed in the battle of Fan Castle.
Other: Yan Liang & Wen Chou: Killed by Guan Yu.
Lu Bu: Killed by Cao Cao.
Dong Zhuo: Killed by Lu Bu.
Zhang Jiao: Killed by the allied forces.
If I missed anyone, please comment:)
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Guan yu got killed by wu soldiers tho, general Lu Meng to be specific.
Guan Ping killed by wu soidiers same Guan Yu not by Xu Huang
Also he named his kingdom Wei, but historians called it Northern Wei to avoid confusion
how u know this lol
Pang Tong wasn't affiliated with Shu at the time. The whole incident was invented for the book, the fire attack on the ships was a tiny part of the entire campaign. Zhuge Liang did not predict the wind, Wu had already won far before they set fire the ships, Cao Cao lost because of over taxing his men and disease. Shu's contribution to Chibi was sailing Guan Yu up to fight Yu Jin whom promptly kicked his useless ass back. All they did was steal one city and then beg for 3 more(Rest of jing)
@SharKing319 Machao: -jumps in during Guan Yu's speech-
Machao: DID SOMEBODY SAY, JUSTICE?!?!
This ending was epic but sad at the same time.....
actually Guo Jia came up with several lgood strategy. He thought of flooding Lu Bu, thrawting the Yuans from the inside, Liaodong strategy and several others. After his untimely death, Cao Cao could have won Chi Bi
1:49 eppppic
Made me cry. I always wanted shu or wu to win.
@@zennoix9984 wu and shu sucks. Wei for the world
@@IFJF4NT1M3 totally agree wei best kingdom ever
@@rodrigocofre693 yeah , it's cause the politics and soldiers Power of Wei . Wei is like China , and Wu It's America and Shu It's Iran , Shu Always have War with Wei , and get betrayed by Wu , i like this era of chaos , It's so Very pretty Chaos .
@@violetso2 yeah you got the point and jin is america but ith trump as president
There's a good TV series on the Sima Yi and his family called "The Advisors alliance" check it out
Zhuge Liang was tried by several times to serve Sun Quan but refused all efforts even from Zhuge Jin begging him. Hard to say though it would increase their chances a little bit and Hefei probably would have been a Wu victory but I doubt dealing with Hefei Castle. If I were Sun Quan, I would send him to continue Zhou Yu's work after his death, thereby fulfilling Zhou Yu's dream of Wu in the South and Wei in the north.
They're still a lot of things like the real cause of Sima Shi's death(It was Wen Yang) and how Wu really fell since it didn't just fall that easily. It fought Jin for a number of years before Jin invaded a weakened Wu.
1:41 my favorite part The Music like *VERY* *VERY* *CHAOS*
1 - Sun Tzu is best strategist in the history of China
2 - Pang Tong was better than Zhuge Liang.
3 - Sima Yi could be nothing if cao cao still alive. But Liu Shan, Sun Quan's spoiler son....damn useless kings.
The greatest ending in all of Dynasty Warriors.
Agree, after the next series, it went downhill from there… DW9 killed it unfortunately…
perfect koei you finally perfected your game.
This ending is perfect....as it gives more detail of how the three kingdoms came to an end. they shouldn't change this at all
Lu Bu VS Zhang Fei
Sun Ce VS Taishi Ci
Xiahou Dun VS Guan Yu
Zhou Yu VS Zhuge Liang
Gan Ning VS Zhang Liao
Huang Zhong VS Xiahou Yuan
Deng Ai VS Jiang Wei
Sima Zhao and Wang Yuanji at the Microsoft XP wallpaper
Wait if you really think about it
Cao Cao and Sima Zhao followed the same path
Cao Cao took the title King of Wei, not becoming Emperor of Wei, and died in 220 AD, his son Cao Pi forced the Han Emperor to abdicate and became Emperor of Wei not long after Cao Cao died. However after Cao Pi died and Cao Rui took rule over Wei, there was rising tensions in Wei's court between Sima Yi and Cao Shuang. After Cao Rui died and Cao Fang took the throne Sima Yi and Cao Shuang were both fighting each other politically and the incident of Gaoping Tombs where Sima Yi killed a lot of the Cao Imperial family in 249 AD.
Sima Zhao took the title King of Jin, not becoming Emperor, and died in 265 AD, his son Sima Yan forced the Wei Emperor to abdicate, then Wu surrendered after a lot of in fighting and began to lose power. Sima Yan united the Three Kingdoms into the Jin Dynasty however after his death, then political tensions between the imperial family started to form, after Sima Yan died, and Sima Zhong took power but Sima Liang became Sima Zhong's regent and later down the road there was a lot of infighting within the Imperial court which led to the War of the Eight Princes.
Am I the only one that noticed that Cao Wei and Jin basically followed the same path, and followed the same fate?
You're not the only one I noticed it :O
Best cinematics and intro to battle hands down. Latest games have been such a disappointment to me.
I so hype for dynasty warriors origins if ya watch the trailer is absolutely legendary
Actually Sun Xiu chose his son Sun Wan to be his sucessor on his deathbed, but Puyang Xing the prime minister did not follow and chose Hao instead.So if Puyang Xing had follow Sun Xiu wishes, Wu might hanged on maybe until the death of Sima Yan
because Wu rightfully won these lands after Chibi and Liu Bei promised on at least three different occassions that he would return them but EVERY time he came up with an excuse. Liu Bei had no home to call, so Sun Quan let him borrow Jing until Liu conquered Yi but even after that, they refused to return the province. There was no other choice to regain Jing other than war.
Cao Cao wasn't the actual villain unlike in the history right? Btw I like Wei over Wu and Shu...
Nobody was really a villain Cao Cao was just very ambitious which made him come across as a potential dictator but in reality he just wanted to create order.
I can't believe this game has made A great game 😱
I get shivers and tears at the ending, all of it conquered by Sima clan