Why Dooku Believed Yoda Was Trained in the Dark Side - Star Wars Explained

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  • @lorenzog7811
    @lorenzog7811 Рік тому +1398

    I would think as grand master he would absolutely study the dark side. It was forbidden to most others because they simply wouldnt be able to handle it. I believe windu did too

    • @chrishansel95
      @chrishansel95 Рік тому +91

      "Have you ever heard of the story of Darth Plagueis the Wise, He was so wise and powerful he was able to manipultate midochlorians to create life itself", How do you think Grogu was made?

    • @blackc1479
      @blackc1479 Рік тому +85

      Windu didn't so much study it, more like he always had a bit of a dark side urge, and he learned to channel and control that side of himself into something more positive. That was why he liked to fight, part of his nature, and I think a bit of a pressure valve.
      I always loved that scene in dark rendezvous. I doubt Yoda ever studied it per se, but at his levels of power and understanding it would be easy to intuit how to use it. He would have long since gotten to know the dark parts of himself.

    • @davidtuttle7556
      @davidtuttle7556 Рік тому +54

      ​@@blackc1479Rewatch the ROTJ scene where Luke returns to Dagobah. Yoda did indeed have a very deep understanding of nature of the dark side. It is also clear Luke that Yoda understood it. Thats why he asked what he asked. Luke later made that same journey of discovery. Yoda and Luke imo are seriously OP.

    • @blackc1479
      @blackc1479 Рік тому +7

      @davidtuttle7556 yeah, I see where you're coming from, he had done his own" test" at some point.
      He knew what it was, but the way portrayed was just that him and the nexus were both there, and he was hiding in its force shadow.
      But now, yeah, the way it could be interpreted was that he also knew on a deeper level what it could do.
      Worth noting to that iirc a jedi also died there. No doubt adding more complexity to what it was he understood about it.

    • @senateurpalpatine
      @senateurpalpatine Рік тому +25

      The dark side of the force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.

  • @davidsmith7962
    @davidsmith7962 Рік тому +538

    I believed that Yoda studied some things from The Dark Side. I also believe that Yoda did this to further learn what to do when encountering certain Dark Side abilities.

    • @JediMaster362
      @JediMaster362 Рік тому +48

      It makes sense. For example, in Attack of The Clones, he absorbs Dooku's Force Lightning, and redirects it. If he didn't study about Force Lightning, he would have been caught off guard.

    • @MP-vc4nu
      @MP-vc4nu Рік тому +20

      He did studied the dark side, it only appears when he’s smoking ketamine

    • @monkpool
      @monkpool 11 місяців тому +2

      @@MP-vc4nu🤣

  • @LOZi175
    @LOZi175 Рік тому +423

    “If one is to understand the great mystery, one must study all its aspects, not just the dogmatic narrow view of the Jedi.”

    • @decepticonxhunter4850
      @decepticonxhunter4850 Рік тому +33

      It's a rather hypocritical statement, considering Palpatine only studied the dogmatic view of the Sith.

    • @Trick-Framed
      @Trick-Framed 10 місяців тому +16

      The actual proverb is ... There are many sides to the mountain. Where you stand determines what you see. I didn't like the way Lucas twisted it for Sidious. He should have dropped "dogmatic" and "narrow" and it would have fit with the honied tongue he was slobbering all over Anakin with.

    • @LOZi175
      @LOZi175 10 місяців тому +5

      @@Trick-Framed
      Cool! Did not know that. Thx!!! ✌🏼

    • @Sky_lars
      @Sky_lars 10 місяців тому +10

      ​@@Trick-Framed He was trying to convince Anakin that the Jedi was a cult (which is how it functioned, not maliciously, but still with the taking kids from parents and making them monks) and turning him against the idea of the Jedi order.

    • @OdellAtkinson
      @OdellAtkinson 9 місяців тому +4

      @@Trick-Framed Well, trying to get a hack to not write hack-writing is a tall order 66.

  • @thewildwolf007
    @thewildwolf007 Рік тому +319

    Don't forget how old yoda is, if yoda trained at the temple as young as din grogu did, then he was trained less then 150 years after the last sith war. Chances are he was trained by people who fought in the war so they might of wanted to teach him some things just in case the sith ever came back.

    • @yoda__kush6779
      @yoda__kush6779 Рік тому +13

      Yoda was found on a planet by a wandering Jedi master he wasn't taught at the temple in the ways of the younglings just before the clone wars were he was over a 100 when found too

    • @jamaxk1373
      @jamaxk1373 Рік тому +9

      Not chances. That is fact his master faced sith

    • @lifeisadream1992
      @lifeisadream1992 8 місяців тому +1

      Yoda is like 700 years old​@@yoda__kush6779

    • @yoda__kush6779
      @yoda__kush6779 8 місяців тому +1

      @@lifeisadream1992 yes he was over 700 years old but I'm saying he wasn't found and taught till he was probably 100-150 by his master who himself was probably a pre russan reformation Jedi before they took on the refinement of the code we know today

    • @IndianaJoe0321
      @IndianaJoe0321 8 місяців тому +7

      The last Sith war ended in 1032 BBY. Yoda was born in 896 BBY and was trained by N'Kata Del Gormo. Yoda later became a Jedi Master in 796 BBY.
      Although N'Kata Del Gormo may not have fought during the Sith War, he may have been trained by a veteran of the War. There is not info on this topic.

  • @ConnorMarc
    @ConnorMarc Рік тому +239

    I like the fact that Yoda struck fear and horror into the heart of Dooku.
    LoL

    • @RedonkulousCaptious
      @RedonkulousCaptious 9 місяців тому +7

      When you maxed out your levels in badass Sith Knight and your kryptonite is 3 foot green muppet lol

    • @MentalWarrior777
      @MentalWarrior777 7 місяців тому +3

      @@RedonkulousCaptioushes pretty much everyones kryptonite in his verse

    • @yobogoya4367
      @yobogoya4367 4 місяці тому +3

      @@RedonkulousCaptious Imagine thinking yourself so powerful and Kermit the Frog takes you down 😂

    • @multilis2
      @multilis2 4 місяці тому +3

      noobs strike fear into opponents. pros like jar jar have enemies underestimate them.

    • @nickbriggs8059
      @nickbriggs8059 19 днів тому +1

      So true. I love true Star Wars lore it is so engrossing. I can’t get enough honestly

  • @blackc1479
    @blackc1479 Рік тому +195

    Its worth noting that in yodas younger days, the sith were still fresh in the orders memory.
    There likely were some long lived jedi that had actual first hand knowledge of both fighting them, falling and redemption and gathering their lore for storage.
    That almost certainly would have influenced the jedi, and their training methods.

    • @mitchbaker5995
      @mitchbaker5995 Рік тому +10

      That's what I thought it would make since that at the time that yoda joined the order they would have still been teaching new jedi how to fight darksiders

    • @jamaxk1373
      @jamaxk1373 Рік тому +6

      He was the only living one trained to actually face sith since his master had faced sith. Windu was trained in saber techniques similar since he was the weapons master.

    • @Thundergun5
      @Thundergun5 Рік тому +3

      It's also worth noting that the Jedi believed the Sith were extinct. They used that word, "extinct"... considering that the jedi were pretty arrogant about that, I seriously doubt they were working on Sith contingency plans... they BELIEVE that battle has already been fought and won.

    • @Thundergun5
      @Thundergun5 Рік тому +6

      And it's also worth noting that George Lucas is not a great story teller and the SWU relies heavily on retcon from other contributors just to remain interesting

    • @DoneBrokeDatBack
      @DoneBrokeDatBack 9 місяців тому

      The Brotherhood of Darkness (the Sith order that Bane killed along with countless Jedi) was only a little over 100 years before his birth. So very, very fresh.

  • @theforcedragon3781
    @theforcedragon3781 Рік тому +177

    Interesting!
    And even more evidence to back this up is that the Evil yoda in S6 said “Yoda hates me yoda plays not with me anymore yoda thinks mes not worthy” showing that Yoda has at least studied the dark side.

    • @alec8172
      @alec8172 10 місяців тому

      Bad Yodas there are not, bad owners there are ​@persuasivebarrier2419

    • @TronikXR
      @TronikXR 6 місяців тому +1

      What is S6?

    • @theforcedragon3781
      @theforcedragon3781 6 місяців тому +2

      @@TronikXR I meant Season 6 of the clone Wars

    • @midgetydeath
      @midgetydeath 5 місяців тому

      From the wording, it seems Yoda studied the Dark Side, recognized it was basically failure incarnate, and dismissed it.

  • @opzitUvDarKO2
    @opzitUvDarKO2 Рік тому +255

    when dooku used Force lightning against Yoda he thought he had the upper hand, but when Yoda countered by absorbing his Force lightning,I would credit this more to Yoda's mastery of the force itself... Just like in avatar The last Airbender, if you study and master the different elements you will come to find out that all elements can be broken down into smaller separate elements... The energy that is channeled through Force lightning could be broken down reabsorbed redirected perhaps.... Similar to lightning bending.... Yoda realizes that there is no LIGHT side there is no DARK side in actuality. Only light and dark intentions that manifests itself through the use of the force.. there is Only the Force and all that it is made up of, which incidentally is everything.... So yeah space magic 🤓👍🏾. .

    • @tombondcrispy6585
      @tombondcrispy6585 Рік тому +17

      This is the way

    • @ElKabong3345
      @ElKabong3345 Рік тому +15

      Electric Judgement has no malice, it is _pure_ energy, so it's easy to absorb
      Sith Lightning has tremendous amount of malice, you can break down the energy, but your spirit is burnt by the malice.
      This is why Jedi, and even Sith, should only deflect it. Not embrace it.
      To absorb it means to *understand* the hate and break it down.

    • @GafftheHorse
      @GafftheHorse Рік тому +4

      If there was no light and no dark, how could 'the dark side cloud everything' which Yoda said at least once was preventing the Jedi (council at least) from seeing clearly and finding out who was manipulating things.

    • @goldenfoxy7137
      @goldenfoxy7137 Рік тому +10

      Sounds like the philosophy of a Grey Jedi ngl

    • @opzitUvDarKO2
      @opzitUvDarKO2 Рік тому +3

      @@GafftheHorse as far as the Canon goes which has been changed in retcon'd several times now, there are individuals that are wielders of the force but aren't bound to The same doctrine as professed by practicing Jedi... And they are referred to as great Jedi those who practice the force in all of its entirety, But the wheeled it in a balanced way and don't limit themselves to certain ASPECTS of the force, EVEN SOME ASPECTS THAT OTHERS MAY FIND "UNNATURAL" but only unnatural based upon said doctrine... Just like there are individuals who use certain tools as It was meant to, In those who can use it for harm or unrighteous gain... So those who practice the so-called dark side are merely just using the force in unscrupulous ways therefore clouding things because it is not something the Jedi practice in our either unfamiliar with or again find unsavory.

  • @bryank7500
    @bryank7500 10 місяців тому +30

    Yoda also sent Luke to face the dark side. Luke fought and found himself but came back to the light side. That is why Yoda was impressed.

  • @kaimagnus5760
    @kaimagnus5760 Рік тому +54

    Maybe when Yoda said "Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.” and "Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny." he was speaking from personal experience.

    • @Post-Trib
      @Post-Trib Рік тому +5

      They never mention if pride and arrogance lead to the dark side, which it should.
      Everyone experiences fear and anger

    • @kaimagnus5760
      @kaimagnus5760 Рік тому +1

      @@Post-Trib I would argue any strong negative emotions can lure one to The Dark Side. To me The Dark Side isn't so much Evil as it is lacking in control. The Light Side is like a Campfire, controlled but vital to many things. Whereas The Dark Side is a Wildfire. And if left Unchecked it will destroy everything in its path. Including the one who started it.

    • @RealWorldGames
      @RealWorldGames 7 місяців тому +2

      Yoda also said he "feared " Anakin's training

    • @goinginsane37098
      @goinginsane37098 6 місяців тому

      @@Post-Triband we all know anakin was one arrogant shit

    • @christiansaunders5421
      @christiansaunders5421 2 місяці тому +1

      ⁠@@Post-Tribyea cuz both him and the whole order had pride in their knowledge of the force and the responsibility they took for it which completely clouded sideous from them and allowed him to grow in the dark side

  • @dartharaneus67
    @dartharaneus67 Рік тому +57

    Yoda knows the Dark Side well enough to have realised long ago that it simply had nothing to offer him that he could want. In his case, it wasn't so much a matter of strength in resisting the Dark as it was a complete lack of temptation. But I would argue that this acquired sense of balance in the Force could only have come from some knowledge of the Dark Side at a point in his life. Because only from knowledge of both sides could a true choice have been made and a balance reached. And when I say balance, I'm not implying that Yoda would be a Grey Jedi. I'm saying that he knew enough about both sides to make his choice and stick to it.

    • @midgetydeath
      @midgetydeath 5 місяців тому

      Why do so many people think balance requires Light and Dark? The movies (especially the OG) and George Lucas himself said that the Light Side _IS_ balance in the Force and the Dark Side is imbalance. Then smooth brains go "What? But if you have only Light and no Dark, clearly that's imbalanced" because can't understand that these are names for balance and imbalance, not actual parts of the Force itself.

  • @michaelkimberling7307
    @michaelkimberling7307 Рік тому +67

    Being able to switch between light and dark could also be a quirk of his species. Also as legends Jedi master Kavar said, “The Darkside is always there” to deny that the Darkside exists opens you up the possibility of being corrupted by it.

    • @flavaj13
      @flavaj13 Рік тому +5

      I think Quigon Jin said something similar in the book of him and apprentice Kenobi's adventures in, Star Wars: Master and Apprentice

    • @cherryvapr6969
      @cherryvapr6969 Рік тому +7

      True to life too, anger you don't feel is still there; if you're acting from it regardless of your beliefs it will damage those around you. Better to be aware of your emotions and incorporate them into making objectively correct choices.

    • @Jayteaseepiirturi
      @Jayteaseepiirturi Рік тому +6

      I shall abandon the idea of a special property of Yoda's species as that would be too easy. I would rather say, seven centuries is a long time to do the right thing and the wrong thing. I refuse to believe Yoda has never screwed and has had to pay the price for it. The only way to know Dark Side is to be Dark Side. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
      With something like that, it comes down to the question: Who and what are you?
      Take Darth Vader. Or, Anakin Skywalker, if you will. Take Revenge of the Sith and Return of the Jedi. Dark Side was ALWAYS Anakin's choice. Abandoning Dark Side for Luke? ALSO HIS CHOICE.
      Like I said: Who and what are you?

  • @Xyma-YT
    @Xyma-YT Рік тому +51

    By the way: Yoda did NOT Lose to Palpatine / Sidious! it came to a draw at the end of the fight... He just / only Failed to beat Palpatine / Sidious, but he definitely did NOT Lose!

    • @volbound1700
      @volbound1700 11 місяців тому +14

      Palpatine won. Sure it looks like a draw from fight but Yoda going into hiding and Palpatine taking over the Empire clearly shows that Palpatine won. I also get the vibe that Yoda was severely injured in the fight and that is why you don't see him doing anything again other than training Luke with a cane.

    • @winstonsmith8482
      @winstonsmith8482 9 місяців тому +9

      @@volbound1700 dislocated his hip! not good when 900 years old are you!

    • @serpion5x
      @serpion5x 9 місяців тому +6

      He was unable to beat Palpatine. Given the situation, that is absolutely a loss.

    • @Formless-Entertainment
      @Formless-Entertainment 8 місяців тому +2

      I like Yoda, he was winning the lightsaber duel but lost the force battle. He retreated for a reason, not because of reinforcements.

    • @cowgirlqueen2636
      @cowgirlqueen2636 7 місяців тому +2

      Palpatine won. Yoda and Obi Wan went into exile in remote areas of the galaxy and hid and they left him alone

  • @jacobmoore87
    @jacobmoore87 7 місяців тому +8

    Imagine if yoda was originally a child of the Dark Side.
    Could Yoda have been bred to be an incredibly rare prodigy of the sith? Then due to pivtol events, inconceivably found himself falling for the path of the light?
    It would be so cool to see the struggle of his confidence in his foundational faith.
    Then he makes his tortured path to Grandmaster of the Jedi.
    Haha I love it.
    Feel free to add/subtract!!

    • @okarifox
      @okarifox 5 місяців тому

      That would make for a really cool and interesting series! :)

  • @magicaltour1
    @magicaltour1 Рік тому +14

    Yoda and Sideous being similar seems to have always been the intention. It works great thematically, as we see that Luke and Vader both have masters whose council they seek.

  • @GhillieGuide
    @GhillieGuide 8 місяців тому +3

    The other very canon answer is that the hubris of the sith means that dooku could only imagine that level of power coming from the dark side

  • @TK199999
    @TK199999 Рік тому +7

    When Yoda faced his Darkness, it said that Yoda didn't play with his Darkside anymore and that he found it unworthy. Highly suggesting Yoda did study at least his own darkside and may well have gone far down that path. In fact its highly suggested too that Dooku saw the same creature we say in the Clone Wars epo.

  • @ChrisR-k2b
    @ChrisR-k2b Рік тому +10

    His knowledge of the darkside nexus on Degobah didn’t come from a vacuum. He may well have had history with that nexus prior to Order 66 . Makes sense in a thousand year lifespan . He literally was around when the rule of two was implemented.

  • @ajburdett882
    @ajburdett882 2 місяці тому +2

    The Jedi that can study the dark side and even learn it's techniques, but still not be tempted to succumb to it, are truly the most powerful force users of all

  • @martykuypers8608
    @martykuypers8608 Рік тому +14

    They had a lot of Sith holocrons in the restricted section in the temple. So I'm sure he studied them and that's how he learned about the dark side. He should have studied them more because he couldn't match Sidious' power in the force. That's what Dooku did and it helped turn him. Dooku after Yoda absorbed his force lightning and shot it back at him he was able to deflect it which is really impressive.

    • @crownprincesebastianjohano7069
      @crownprincesebastianjohano7069 Рік тому +3

      Dooku evidently was able to absorb Lightning as well. According to Legends anyway, and inferences in canon novels, only Yoda surpassed Dooku in knowledge and abilities in the Light Side. What made Dooku so dangerous was the sheer knowledge he had of both Light and Dark.

    • @rdub1035
      @rdub1035 Рік тому

      This ain’t Harry Potter

  • @darthgoza
    @darthgoza 6 місяців тому +1

    I love that line from Dark Rendezvous (paraphrasing here) "Dooku realized that should Yoda fall to the dark side, with his extensive knowledge of the Force, he would be unstoppable and mop the floor with Sidious".

  • @petemustangman
    @petemustangman Рік тому +9

    I taught you everything you know. I didn't teach you everything I know.

  • @jrsmuse
    @jrsmuse 9 місяців тому +4

    I'm truly impressed by the myriad of ways you can restate the premise.

  • @nickolaszissimos1189
    @nickolaszissimos1189 Рік тому +13

    Yes, one cannot make it to such a power level as Yoda without being able to use both light and darkness. The key is balance, and obviously Yoda had it. True power does not come from the light nor the darkness but rather from balance. To be able to keep switching sides at will means one has learned a great deal of both and how to use and utilize both equally. To achieve balance one must accept every single part of themself.

    • @nathanjohnston9762
      @nathanjohnston9762 9 місяців тому +2

      The dark side is like a hammer. You can use it to build a house, or you could hurt people if you are an irresponsible person.

    • @nickolaszissimos1189
      @nickolaszissimos1189 9 місяців тому

      @@nathanjohnston9762 So true, it must be used in a responsible and controlled way.

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    @GalifraianDoctor Місяць тому +1

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  • @tootall4u750
    @tootall4u750 Рік тому +46

    The Stupendous Wave, I’ve been really enjoying your videos and insights into all things Star Wars. I’m so impressed by the depth and breadth of your knowledge and understanding of Canon, lore, legends etc etc. I can’t imagine just how much reading/research you’ve had to do in order to come up with everything you share. I’ve come to appreciate Star Wars even more and I’ve always been a BIG fan. Even if certain movies or series were “meh” I still liked them because it would at least reveal more canon/details/insights into the Star Wars universe, so watching your videos is like getting another bite off the sandwich lol. Anyways, keep up the great work and I’m sure glad I stumbled upon one of your videos and have been enjoying going back into your archive watching 1-2 new/old videos almost everyday.
    Cheers mate!!

    • @dascrazy7400
      @dascrazy7400 Рік тому +8

      Yea im impressed with his ability to upload twice a day

    • @TheStupendousWave
      @TheStupendousWave  Рік тому +8

      Thank you so much! That means a lot!

  • @jamesgodfrey1322
    @jamesgodfrey1322 Рік тому +6

    Electric Judgment, also known as Emerald Lightning, was a light side Force technique used to spray electric bolts of variable intensity from the hands and fingers. At one time, it was classified as a forbidden Force power within the Jedi Order; however, some Jedi such as Plo Koon,

    • @jacobnash9755
      @jacobnash9755 Рік тому +1

      Plo Koon knows a variant of that force power that is commonly taught on his home world to force users. However, it is not the same, just similar.

  • @sherifzeus999
    @sherifzeus999 Рік тому +5

    Dooku was no match for Anthony Hopkins 3:03

  • @shannoncook6208
    @shannoncook6208 7 місяців тому +1

    When he told duku that he still had much to learn and he also said that he could tell that he was strong with the dark side. Yoda already knew what was up because he had already been through it.

  • @jordanmurray4061
    @jordanmurray4061 9 місяців тому +1

    he lives on a planet with the most dark side energy in the galaxy. the tunnel he sent Luke through, where he struck down vader and saw himself under the mask, in "the empire strikes back", was pure dark side energy. it was a test to see if luke was ready, and a metaphor for facing the darkness within oneself. going through it to find the light again.

  • @Ryokai395
    @Ryokai395 3 місяці тому +1

    The idea of Yoda being able to use both sides not getting overwhelmed by one is fascinating. I think the force is based on yin and yang. One cant exist without the other. And i think Yoda or maybe even his whole race knows much more about it. Maybe they even teach both ways at once or something like this.

  • @forceofwill1761
    @forceofwill1761 9 місяців тому +1

    In the sequel trilogy when Yoda's ghost sets fire to the tree he used lighting and also said " mischief am I" as he danced with glee. I also believe that the Jedi and Sith divide the force there by making it alot less powerful that it could be ,if you could balance the light with the dark because the sum of both would be greater than it's parts

  • @YoutubeISforMORONSlikeYOU
    @YoutubeISforMORONSlikeYOU Місяць тому +1

    Just wait till Darth Binks and his apprentice Darth Salacious show up with their army of dark yodas from the outer edges, where Yodas home planet lies.

  • @williamoverton7775
    @williamoverton7775 Рік тому +2

    The moment that made me see the dark side was when the lightning reflected in his eyes right then he unleashed the dark side in a desperate struggle.

  • @lazytommy0
    @lazytommy0 Рік тому +5

    yoda understood that the dark side itself was a lie. always promising power but only delivering falsehoods and deceptions, simply illusions of gold and grandure that could never deliver anything but ruin.

  • @andrewgavin3083
    @andrewgavin3083 11 місяців тому +1

    Study he certainly did, but I think the true clue to his power and why he so easily switched back to the light is his simple phrase when he faced his own darkside
    "Part of me you are, but I choose not to feed you"
    I think you should have included that one

  • @UnexpectedWonder
    @UnexpectedWonder Рік тому +2

    It's like a Grandmaster of the Martial Arts. It makes sense for both Yoda and Darth Sidious to be similar as two Grandmasters.

  • @jvin248
    @jvin248 Рік тому +13

    There is a reason Yoda had that convenient Dark Side Cave on Dagobah for Luke to enter. Perhaps it was simply a sith who tracked yoda to the planet as alluded to, or it was his Dark Side laboratory Yoda used like a gym membership to buff up his skills.

    • @parkerstroh6586
      @parkerstroh6586 Рік тому +1

      this man has cracked the code

    • @timian210
      @timian210 Рік тому

      That... actually makes sense.

    • @nicholasjh1
      @nicholasjh1 11 місяців тому +1

      I think he picked dagobah to have the dark side mask his presence

    • @colbywalker5301
      @colbywalker5301 2 місяці тому

      @@nicholasjh1bingo

  • @olubeveridge898
    @olubeveridge898 Рік тому +19

    How arrogant do you have to be to believe that you are more powerful and better than someone 900 yrs old. And then you believe the only way he can beat you is by learning something from the dark side. That’s another level of arrogance if you ask me.

    • @SirRevCyberTrucker
      @SirRevCyberTrucker 6 місяців тому

      Almost as arrogant as the less-than-900-year-old Sidious when he defeated Yoda, eh?

    • @MLGProTroller
      @MLGProTroller 6 місяців тому +3

      Because that’s how the dark side works. It gives you an immense power up once you use it.
      So for example, someone like Barris Offee, if made a proper sith lord, could easily be as powerful as Mace Windu in 2-3 years.
      But because the dark side corrupts, she’d only be at that level for let’s say 10-15 years.
      Whereas in the light side, the longer you’re in it, the more powerful you’ll be with time, like Yoda.
      Essentially the dark side rewards you know, and makes you pay later, while the light side will reward you in the long run, and make you wait in the short term.
      Basically the dark side is a sprint, while the light side is a marathon.

  • @Dece132
    @Dece132 Рік тому +1

    800 years I would imagine just being that old you'd want to learn how to counter your nemesis's skills

  • @djphat1736
    @djphat1736 Рік тому +1

    Yoda did exactly what was needed for the moment. No more no less. He kept the appearance that he was old and frail. Even among those that "knew" better. He never walked without a cane and never exerted himself further than needed. Like we all know he can walk just fine without a cane. So in the end, it worked PERFECTLY against Dooku. He simply had no idea.
    I'm willing to bet good money that Yoda "let" Darth Sidious hit him with that lightning. JUST to make him over confident. Feeding that sith need to believe they are superior.

  • @jeanwesleynew
    @jeanwesleynew 9 місяців тому +2

    "Do or do not. There is no "try"."
    I tried of not judging Yoda on the results of his leadership. He was in charge of the Jedi during their near complete destruction. This would eclipse into darkness any amount of good deeds for any other leader. Yoda was an arrogant ass.

  • @NickolosBreedlove
    @NickolosBreedlove 10 місяців тому +2

    It explains why he could stand the darkness on dagobah

  • @NekoTDaGhost
    @NekoTDaGhost Рік тому +1

    It’s quite simple. Yoda is a known tactical genius. Spent many years fighting many different enemies. When you have spent a lot of time and survived in the trenches you start to learn things. Even apply them to your own methods. Another thing that any good intelligence/general person would know and follow this simple rule. “Know your enemy like you know yourself”. By applying this knowledge would it not be fair and safe to assume that for research and intelligence purposes he would risk himself so that he could hope to understand his enemy better so that he would be able to develop better tactics to either defeat them OR FIND A COMMON GROUND TO END THE CONFLICT. Just my take on it. I lean more to the latter of my statement. But he definitely had plans in place for both outcomes. Understanding one’s enemy is the first step in ending a conflict.

  • @kitfo18
    @kitfo18 Рік тому +2

    I would imagine that it is a ability of his species. This is the secret of what makes his species so powerful in the force. I would also go as far as to say that it is the light side that keeps them alive for so long and that is why no one has ever seen one of the dark side.

  • @capesword111
    @capesword111 11 місяців тому

    I'm impressed that he would take an interest in those he opposed, even if it did influence him in ways he wouldn't approve of. It's important to be aware of both sides of a conflict if one wants to be truly effective. You can't really fight back the arguments of someone like Siddious if you don't know the perspective he's coming from, and what makes it work and the problems with it. Both sides of the Light/Dark conflict have some issues with them, but being aware of both makes it easier to work with a side, or go your own way.

  • @MrDs247
    @MrDs247 28 днів тому

    I think Yoda just had a ability to not only feel the force around him obviously but the force and dark side within others in a way that allowed him to learn more and master all

  • @iyziejane
    @iyziejane 9 місяців тому

    On Dagobah, Yoda lives within hiking distance of that "dark side cave" that gives Luke a vision. A "domain of evil", he calls it.

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 Рік тому +2

    This wouldn't surprise me at all. This subject is quite interesting to discuss.

  • @hansvonheileger5791
    @hansvonheileger5791 8 місяців тому +1

    This makes all the sense! It would even explain why he went into self exile after the clone wars... specifically on a Dark Aligned Planet.

    • @BlowinXO
      @BlowinXO 7 місяців тому

      Also how he was able do hide so easily on such a planet

  • @patrickdoane7
    @patrickdoane7 3 місяці тому

    I think in 800 years it could be expected that a being as powerful as yoda would explore all avenues of the force for knowledge and self improvement

  • @2Times22
    @2Times22 11 місяців тому +1

    And still Sidious managed to be practically invisible for so many years,posing as the chancellor,and none of the Jedi-not even Yoda(who according to your video here might know little bit of the dark side)none of them exposed him or understood what he was doing...Unbelievable what he did to them...If you think about it its crazy..!!!

  • @AtakenSmith
    @AtakenSmith 11 місяців тому +7

    What I never understood. Why is the dark side never used to do good...

    • @Kris-ym2zr
      @Kris-ym2zr 7 місяців тому +3

      I saw a video explaining that Mace Windu used the dark side of the force to some degree, so this would mean that it was.
      However, most people would probs consumed by it if they triedthe same thing

    • @AtakenSmith
      @AtakenSmith 7 місяців тому +4

      @@Kris-ym2zr I actually found it later that in legends there are stories about force users using the dark side for good. The Shits hated them and the Jedis did not like they used the dark side.
      You are right with the consumption part as well, many people who started out good became bad and influenced by the dark side.

    • @Kris-ym2zr
      @Kris-ym2zr 6 місяців тому +3

      @@AtakenSmith That's interesting to hear, thanks for sharing. I also learned yesterday that Jedi that use a purple light saber seem to follow this path of mixing the light and dark for the benefit of a good cause. Pretty fascinating.

    • @spacefoodie
      @spacefoodie 3 місяці тому +1

      You cant fake it u have to really channel ur hate and its addictive,

    • @sirBrouwer
      @sirBrouwer 2 місяці тому +1

      Because that was never George Luckas his intention. He very deliberately tried to make a very black and white picture. good vs bad.
      His aim at frist was to make at least one decent but aiming at three well of movies. And for most on a very low budget.

  • @shkotayd9749
    @shkotayd9749 Рік тому +2

    Force absorb (Tutaminis) was rare? It was known as an ability taught early on in the Order and one most Jedi could use to some degree. Most couldnt do THIS or catch bolts and more, but most had it to some degree to catch and disperse energies.
    As the Order kept Sith holocrons and other artifacts at the Temple itself. I do think more than just Yoda studied what their opposites might have done. Prior to Maul showing up, they thought the Sith were extinct, and only Dark Jedi or other dark side users were about.

  • @asmithgames5926
    @asmithgames5926 10 місяців тому

    It makes sense with how Yoda knew which warnings to give Luke regarding the Dark Side.

  • @definiteg4909
    @definiteg4909 Рік тому +1

    It is interesting that Yoda does have abilities that are known to be a part of the dark side that he used to counter dark side users

  • @charlesbarnes7520
    @charlesbarnes7520 Рік тому

    Yoda knew enough to not study the dark side until he had enough strength and wisdom to transmute it , making it unable to claim him

  • @Gor85
    @Gor85 Рік тому

    It's extremely possibly he studied dark side. He wanted to learn,in case he needed him. Glad to see he's not perfect. Always a pleasure to watch your videos.May the Force be with you too😊

  • @cyrilcooper4173
    @cyrilcooper4173 Рік тому +1

    The biggest appeal to the dark side is power. The reason Yoda is so easily able to pull away from it is because He doesn’t covet power. He would and should be able to study it to understand the enemy but he never would become power hungry.

  • @Sun_Tzu_Art_0f_War
    @Sun_Tzu_Art_0f_War Рік тому +3

    Love your videoes Stupendous Wave

  • @nemesisbreakz
    @nemesisbreakz Рік тому +1

    Yoda even stated that there are other disciplines to follow other than the jedi. Disciplines that could benefit the jedi. If Yoda did learn the dark arts and can stave off the darkness, that makes him even more powerful and intriguing.

  • @GifoChilds
    @GifoChilds Рік тому

    900 years is a long time to meditate and come to conclusions no one else would have time for, pretty sure Yoda learned it to save it for a rainy day. Just from sheer time he has experience, his dedication to the light must’ve been something else.

  • @MentalWarrior777
    @MentalWarrior777 7 місяців тому

    If yoda had taught his most trusted how to acknowledge their own darkness, but flee away from it, maybe they wouldn’t have been so blind collectively

  • @yaboikingkai3475
    @yaboikingkai3475 Рік тому

    NGL. The idea that Yoda would study the dark side makes me smile.

  • @shannoncook6208
    @shannoncook6208 7 місяців тому

    He studied the dark side.He just had too much love in his heart to agree or go with it.

  • @allenr316
    @allenr316 9 місяців тому

    "Know the enemy and know yourself, and you can fight a hundred battles with no danger of defeat" Sun Tzu. When it comes to the Dark Side, it may be riskier, but is no less true.

  • @luiscastellanos5527
    @luiscastellanos5527 Місяць тому

    As in any Grand Master of anything they NEVER divulge all that they know.
    But to be the absolute best in what they do, they MUST explore and study all aspects of it.

  • @hanswolfhausen8347
    @hanswolfhausen8347 Рік тому +3

    I think, well duh! 800 + year old Grand Master of the Jedi Order. He wasn't the first and he wouldn't be the last. Also, he exiled himself to a planet strong in the Dark side of the force. He didn't stick out like a sore thumb but blended in so effectively. Perhaps it is Yoda's very species that allows him so much control and restraint. Don't forget, Windu also trained in some of the dark side lightsaber combat techniques.

  • @juice_man4439
    @juice_man4439 Рік тому +1

    I’m sure Yoda studied the dark side. He was alive for 900 years, at some point his curiosity had to lead him to look into it. There were several jedi who fell to the dark side during his life, he likely wanted to know what he would be going up against if he ever had to fight one of them. Especially if the Jedi who fell was someone powerful, such as a council member that could actually pose a threat. With all the sith holocrons the Jedi possessed, he probably looked over them and saw how they fought, and developed counters to abilities the sith liked to use. The real question is did he study it to just familiarize himself with a potential encounter with a dark side user or did he even possibly experiment with the dark side himself

  • @YayoHernandez-b1j
    @YayoHernandez-b1j Рік тому +16

    The stupendous wave you won, made Star Wars, what if scenarios you can do it again please make. What if Anakin Skywalker was trained by the force itself video you can do it

  • @jakedaniels7676
    @jakedaniels7676 19 днів тому

    Yoda lived without attachment so it makes sense he would study both sides of the force. He held no attachment and didn’t speak in absolutes. Two rules of becoming a Jedi, potentially rules that lead you to eventually being able to learn the full strength of the force without being corrupted.

  • @scottboa2738
    @scottboa2738 Рік тому +1

    In order to have balance in the force, one must train in both the light and dark sides. Not just the light side, as the Jedi believed. The early ancestors of the Jedi, called Je'daii, understood this. Many studied scorcery, such as the legendary Je'daii Temple Master Dam-Pow. Luke Skywalker tried to teach this to Rey. You need balance in order to be a good Jedi.

  • @ronsimpson143
    @ronsimpson143 Рік тому +1

    In legends, before Disney fucked it up, Kyp Durron had turned to the dark side and come back. Someone used force lightning against him, and he turned it. He said (paraphrasing) that once you know how to make it, it cannot harm you. That made me think that Yoda HAD gone to the dark side.... or had come FROM a dark side species and turned to the light. Perhaps his species is from the new galaxy shown in Ahsoka?

  • @madelynpryor9797
    @madelynpryor9797 8 місяців тому

    You don't live for nine hundred years as a Jedi and manage to avoid those dark side points. You're going to fall, maybe more than once, but redemption is what it is and may be why Yoda feels the way he does about the dark side and it's allure. He's speaking from experience. I like this theory a lot.

  • @briarleigh8077
    @briarleigh8077 9 місяців тому

    To me after watching this video I feel like yoda knew all aspects of the force and knew that one couldn’t just be all light or dark but rather a blend of both and a true master of the force as himself probably knew that you had to balance the two, I feel like that’s why he was able to slip into the dark side and slip back out so easily and not let it control him.

  • @t.j.armendariz354
    @t.j.armendariz354 4 місяці тому

    It’s worth noting, everyone knew of Tutaminis to some extent, that’s how Anakin and Obi-Wan survived the heat of mustafar, but it’s a very different level to not just absorb ambient heat but instead absorb powerful concentrated energy and then put it back out

  • @user-di7tg7qf6u
    @user-di7tg7qf6u 9 місяців тому +2

    If Yoda had this wisdom, why didn’t he have compassion for Anakin and help him control the dark side within?

    • @RaccAttacc01
      @RaccAttacc01 8 місяців тому +1

      My theory for that is because when Anakin asked Yoda about how to deal with loss of a loved one, he was vague when answering Yoda when he asked who he was talking about. Therefore, he didn't realize his answer would be improper.

  • @sithari518
    @sithari518 Місяць тому

    Dark Rendezvous was a very underrated novel. Highly recommend it to new and old fans alike.

  • @dennisgrogg8905
    @dennisgrogg8905 День тому

    Any info on the novel cover that displays Luke shooting force lightning? I knew Luke briefly went to the dark side, but is there any explanation for this when he returned?

  • @nijadbahnam9859
    @nijadbahnam9859 Місяць тому

    Well, you know the saying :" Know your enemies. "

  • @ancienttechnique5830
    @ancienttechnique5830 3 місяці тому

    Yoda always dropped jewels about the dangers of the dark side

  • @Just_Pele
    @Just_Pele Рік тому

    The way Yoda went to the dark side and came back was just like with Anakin in the WBW.

  • @atyourself1st
    @atyourself1st 6 місяців тому

    "For 800 years have I trained Jedi... My own council where I keep."
    - Yoda

  • @CrashD6
    @CrashD6 9 місяців тому

    Like you said, "Yoda wasn't as perfect as we thought", he was far beyond our expectations, to transition into the dark and back to the light at will is an ability far beyond any Jedi Master or Sith Lord
    If you reach the ceiling as a Jedi, there is no need for the shortcuts of the Dark Side

  • @grayman556
    @grayman556 Рік тому

    I never thought Yoda was perfect. Yoda is the most battle hardened Jedi of them all and in battle the only rule is kill or be killed.

  • @Chalepastel
    @Chalepastel 9 місяців тому

    I believe Yoda is smart and wise enough to realize that it's a good idea to study what your enemies think about you and your ideologies

  • @ericklandrud5356
    @ericklandrud5356 Місяць тому

    Maybe Yoda learned things he never let any others know of because prepared he wished to be, in case surprises may show themselves, and knowing that from within the Jedi Order an adversary might rise, the Dark Side, his knowledge of, would some "high ground" he would have

  • @aaronv6561
    @aaronv6561 Рік тому +1

    Could it be, in Yoda's 8 centuries of living, he fully embrace his shadow, as Carl Jung philosophized? And in doing so, he would be able to balance the force, as his eventual apprentice Luke did? I think so.

  • @jasongorkisch
    @jasongorkisch 6 місяців тому

    Watching this, I’m reminded of Galadriel in LotR when Frodo offers her the Ring and she passes her test, refusing it

  • @schroder1972utrecht
    @schroder1972utrecht Рік тому +4

    i think yoda's species is inherently darkside, those who are good(lightside) are put in exile, where they from? Peridea? wildspace? unexplored region?

    • @joshoowa
      @joshoowa Місяць тому

      Not sure where you heard that but it’s definitely not canon to anything Lucas wrote.

    • @schroder1972utrecht
      @schroder1972utrecht Місяць тому

      @joshoowa i wrote i think, not i read it someplace

  • @albendacr
    @albendacr 11 місяців тому

    Yoda was the best Yedi ever not only for his wisdom and midichlorians but his knowledge about the force and the dark side of the force

  • @nathanjohnston9762
    @nathanjohnston9762 9 місяців тому

    Jedi Masters did study the dark side. They had forbidden libraries of sith holocrons that only a council member could access. They had to understand the dark side in order to defeat it.

  • @Aaron-fl2iv
    @Aaron-fl2iv 9 місяців тому

    A crowd sourced fan fiction would be amazing.

  • @Freshbrood
    @Freshbrood Рік тому +1

    He used force lightning. Clearly Yoda knew a bit about it.

  • @jjrj8568
    @jjrj8568 3 місяці тому +1

    Yoda only studied the Dark Side to increase his allegiance to the Light and learn how to block Dark Side attacks (especially Lightning). His absolute, flawless conviction in the superiority of the Light Side is what made him more powerful than Dooku or Sidious. Sidious actually spent more time with science and technology in his later years anyway (cloning, superlasers, etc).

  • @waylolz1561
    @waylolz1561 5 місяців тому

    bro a lotta those pictures scared the life outta me

  • @JamstaHonnn
    @JamstaHonnn 5 місяців тому

    ''What ever the fuck I want, do with the force, I will. Do nothing, you will.''

  • @nathanyoung1388
    @nathanyoung1388 8 місяців тому

    I love the idea I have that maybe in his history Yoda fell to the dark side and since he has fallen and turned back he knows how dangerous and seductive the dark side is.

  • @ChurchNietzsche
    @ChurchNietzsche Рік тому +1

    The Jedi Council had dozens of Sith Holocrons. ... is it really so difficult to believe the Grandmaster would have studied them?

  • @coreylarcomb4879
    @coreylarcomb4879 9 місяців тому

    One must understand all of the force to be a true master.
    Rather than training in the dark side, it's more like learning it, but not applying it with the understanding it corrupts.