It struck me that nobody had a hard hat on and missed other safety items. I don't want to go overboard that you need goggles when you drill a small hole in the wall, but this was serious. Still was an interesting video and thanks for staying around even when the battery was running low.
Heck I always thought Gypsies were moths didn't think a moth could steal a section of RR track... What would a Gypsie or a moth do with a section of RR track... Let me know in the comments...
Lack of safety precautions at almost all times, no one should go under when it is jacked-up with cables. Not even simple PPE like hard hats. Tug wires should be used to align back on the track, not by personally go near to tug back on rails when the loco is suspended. Human lives should be of top priority against all machines.
This has to be the all time worst rigging I have ever seen. If they had a rigger he should be fired then the rest of the gaggle should be flogged. If I was the carne operator I would have shut the crane down and walked away. You need to label this as the worst of the worst. Every move they did was wrong.
Jimmy Gray You are absolutely right! But that’s the way of doing such kind of activities in Bulgaria. Even when somebody get hurt or dies, nothing will be changed.
This did look scary to me at moments. There is a lack of lifting capacity, equipment and proper procedures to do the job in a safe way. On several moments the locomotive suddenly moves and is likely to fall over on people standing near it. They could have done this work safe with the one crane with far more wood to prop up the locomotive, and having the hook straight above the lifting points as well. Instead of lifting that one end up all the way, they should have done it a bit at a time, first leveling the locomotive out and then bring it up to rail level, after each lift putting more material under it. When at rail level you can start to swing one end out above the track, put it on and proceed with the other end. But indeed, this is the way its done over there untill someone dies.
You are absolutely right, but unfortunately that's the way of work in Bulgaria and on the Balkans. Even if somebody dies I think nothing would be changed.
Думаю, ругань не попала в кадр - болгары тоже любители крепкого словца. Тепловоз - швейцарский "Зульцер", строился по лицензии в Румынии и в Югославии. Вы можете почитать про него в книге "Тепловозы зарубежных стран" 1972 года издания. Не совсем "европейский" тепловоз: дизель - четырёхтактный, но тихоходный (малооборотистый) и двухвальный - состоит из двух вертикально расположенных рядных шестёрок (из-за этого звук работы похож на ЧМЭ3), соединённых общей передачей, от которой приводится тяговый генератор. Передача постоянного тока, подвешивание ТЭД опорно-осевое, редуктор осевой. Вот так вот.
Wow, that's a laborious task, those guys did a good job though. I can't believe someone would steal parts from a rail track; that's pretty low considering the wreck could cost lives...
I went to work 35 years ago,,,, REALLY NO BODY KNOWS EVEN IF YOUR DAD OR GRANDPA'S WORK THERE IT'S A JOB YOU WALK IN TO GREEN AS A GOURD,,, AFTER 35 YEARS I WOULD STILL BE LEARNING NEW TECHNOLOGY EVERY DAY. ,,IT'S BALL BRAKING WORK,,,, YOU HAVE STEEL RAILS,,, WOODEN 8 FOOT TIES THAT WAY 70 POUNDS,,, AND ROCK LOTS AND LOTS OF ROCK,,,, HONEY IT'S A BALL BUSTER/BREAKER,,,, MY HATS OFF TO THE OLD HANDS/MEN,,,, BACK THEN THERE WERE NO MACHINES,,,,JUST DYNAMITE AND PICKS,,, AND SHOVELS,,,, AND TWO MAN,,,RAIL CAR,,, WITH A SEE SAW,,, TRANSMISSION,,,, UP AND DOWN COME ON EARL WE GOT TO KEEP OUR SPEED YUP TO GET OVER THAT HILL,,,,IT AIN'T THE HILL IAM WORRIED ABOUT IT'S I HEARD A WHISTLE COMING AROUND THE BEND ,,FRED,,,,OH FUCK,,,, SHIT THERE SHE'S IS HIGH BALLING,,,,,🚂HIGH BALLING MEANS FULL STEAM AHEAD/HAULING ASS ALSO LETS JUMP FRED,,, WE ARE GOING TO FAST TO JUMP ,, YOU WANT A BROKEN NECK
Actually they did a very good job given what they had to work with. You sitting on the couch commenting when you are not there to assist is where you probably the best place for you.
is the takraf crane comparable to the "german" kirow cranes as i know them from the former GDR? I know that kirow seems to be something from eastern countries (russia?).
No, in most of the cases they improvise. Of course they have a person in charge, and they know how can do their job, but I mean there aren't two equal derailments, so there are different ways to put back on the rails a derailed car or locomotive.
I was partiticularly struck by the fact that the photos at the end showed that the crane was clearly capable of lifting the locomotive clear of the ground, which left me wandering what all the earlier stuff was about.
I'm sure. I have the technical data of the loco and the weight is 110 t. When it's full with fuel, cooling liquid, sand and etc. the weight is about 115 t.
I was wondering the only real practical way to re-rail a derailed train is using a crane. But i would imagine the only practical way to get a crane out to a train in a reasonable amount of time is to have the crane bolted to some service train. What i am getting at is i don't think one just drives the crane like an ATV out there in most cases. (it to arrives by track)
I feel way to much focus on the loco and really little on the crane as a whole. At one point around 4m on it became obvious the guys in right foreground were looking and pointing towards lower part of crane. My guess was outrigger was sinking under the load. Sadly not filmed. By 4.39 out of the 14.51 video I gave up watching. If you ever get to film another rerailing with similar crane please show more of the whole setup... Like how close was crane, what padding if any was under the outrigger pads, was the crane anchored to the rails with the jaw dogs and turn buckles? ETC.
Why did it fall off the rail? as one of our presidents said one time maybe this way he JV team. why did they pick it all at one time. they had to lift hooks on the crane.
The loco derailed, because there were missing parts from the track. The boom lift of the crane isn't long enough to serve the whole weight of the loco, so that's why they can't lift it without risking a crane damage.
der Kran von TAKRAAF, den kenne ich doch, wo war das denn: DDR Tagebau Großgeräte Torgau, hab ich doch gewusst und schon gesehen und mit arbeiten müssen.
Haha, these my compatriots are professional amateurs, don't even bother to put on helmets, and the labour inspection authorities are busy watching TV serials.
The locomotive crew was fine after the accident, they didn't have any injuries. And fortunately for this case, on this line there aren't passenger services. But this does not exonerate the perpetrators of the crime.
thank God there is 14 minutes of video doing nothing and a couple Snapchat pictures at the end showing the train back on the track. also god dammit you scratched my paint
Don't fret Super Buck. It will end up going to the workshops for a complete inspection and repair. They will repaint it where it is needed or completely if it is warranted.
Did you know that the growing region of a grass blade is the bit near the soil and not the tip? So if you want your grass to grow in an exciting manner then mow it first then water!
kamencho1 Interesting link between train recovery and how to grow a nice lawn. I live in an apartment, so a landscaping company takes care of my lawn. And, fortunately, there are no rail tracks near me, so there seems little likelihood that any trains will be derailed here. I mean. I'm just sayin' LOL
all scrap metal, now we know why it derail on the first place, all locomotives and cars that derail to that extreme head to the bone yard in our railroads
Generally, the railway tracks in Bulgaria are not in good condition. But in that case really there were missing parts which are holding the rails to the sleepers. The driver of the train said that in a section of more than 100-150 m all of the bolts, nuts and other parts which are holding the rails were missing! And when the train has entered in this section, the rails just began to bend.
Why mention "Probably a group of gypsies have made the theft." Either you know they did and you mention it, or you are not sure and than you should not point a finger to a group of people.
I'm not sure at 100%, that's why I wrote "probably". I have not seen the group that have made the theft. I am not an eyewitness of the theft, but gypsies are these that make such kind of problems for the railways. So, let's say that I'm at 99% sure that the problem came from a group of gypsies.
probably ten minutes whit the right crane and spreaderbars. (crane in the video could not lift it the first time due to the way the crane was placed, ) < in that kind off country's you have to work whit what you have, But a bigger spreader bar would have caused less damage to the cab) < and a lot less off directors would have helped to Lol, fact is, they got it back on track.., whit no one killed, thats a mirical in thefirst place! lol .
120t locomotive sitting 3m below rails in angle 45° and little bigger tramway (approx 20t) sitting on top of earthwork, You are right, that is really same situation. But yes, they could be next time thing a little about safety too.
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It struck me that nobody had a hard hat on and missed other safety items. I don't want to go overboard that you need goggles when you drill a small hole in the wall, but this was serious. Still was an interesting video and thanks for staying around even when the battery was running low.
Heck I always thought Gypsies were moths didn't think a moth could steal a section of RR track... What would a Gypsie or a moth do with a section of RR track... Let me know in the comments...
Lack of safety precautions at almost all times, no one should go under when it is jacked-up with cables. Not even simple PPE like hard hats. Tug wires should be used to align back on the track, not by personally go near to tug back on rails when the loco is suspended. Human lives should be of top priority against all machines.
At least they had shoes on. In India they would have been swarming all over that wreck bare foot.
I just love the sound from the engine starting of the crane!
Apparently spreader bars and porta powers don't exist there.
This has to be the all time worst rigging I have ever seen. If they had a rigger he should be fired then the rest of the gaggle should be flogged. If I was the carne operator I would have shut the crane down and walked away. You need to label this as the worst of the worst. Every move they did was wrong.
Jimmy Gray You are absolutely right! But that’s the way of doing such kind of activities in Bulgaria. Even when somebody get hurt or dies, nothing will be changed.
Such beautiful Sulzer in his BDZ livery! Respect to hard and dangerous work of those men!
Thanks for the Video! If theft is suspected, RR should have sentinel cars moving back and forth to ensure that such accidents don't occur.
I just love it. Nobody has got a hard helmet on and nobody got hurt.
Things that are called "Luck"
The do not shoot each other. They just put derailed locomotive back on the rails.
Welcome to balkan man!!
that shows hardhads are useless...
This did look scary to me at moments.
There is a lack of lifting capacity, equipment and proper procedures to do the job in a safe way.
On several moments the locomotive suddenly moves and is likely to fall over on people standing near it.
They could have done this work safe with the one crane with far more wood to prop up the locomotive, and having the hook straight above the lifting points as well.
Instead of lifting that one end up all the way, they should have done it a bit at a time, first leveling the locomotive out and then bring it up to rail level, after each lift putting more material under it.
When at rail level you can start to swing one end out above the track, put it on and proceed with the other end.
But indeed, this is the way its done over there untill someone dies.
You are absolutely right, but unfortunately that's the way of work in Bulgaria and on the Balkans. Even if somebody dies I think nothing would be changed.
O my got, poor locomotive!!! This machine was made in our country, in Romania...
Красивый тепловоз. Странно смотреть это видео без русских крепких словечек, без которых у нас не обходится ни одна физически тяжёлая работа. :)
Vadim Anokhin В Болгарии всех назьlваем локомотивьl електро...тепло... нет значения
Думаю, ругань не попала в кадр - болгары тоже любители крепкого словца. Тепловоз - швейцарский "Зульцер", строился по лицензии в Румынии и в Югославии. Вы можете почитать про него в книге "Тепловозы зарубежных стран" 1972 года издания. Не совсем "европейский" тепловоз: дизель - четырёхтактный, но тихоходный (малооборотистый) и двухвальный - состоит из двух вертикально расположенных рядных шестёрок (из-за этого звук работы похож на ЧМЭ3), соединённых общей передачей, от которой приводится тяговый генератор. Передача постоянного тока, подвешивание ТЭД опорно-осевое, редуктор осевой. Вот так вот.
Български дорожни Железницы
@@sergey_Berezkin Не , бъркаш.
На български БДЖ означава Български Държавни Железници.
@@NikolayKalpakov я знаю! Бдж
"Sulzer" series, old swiss licence, made in Romania, 60's
Poor crane operator has 17 yapping want-to-be-supervisors all telling him their opinion of what to do.
I agree. All the yappers are dumber than dirt although they think the're geniuses.
Good work,Romanian Diesel engine looks very good,
Class 06 in BDZ => O60 DA 2200 HP Diesel Electric range locs - built by ELECTROPUTERE -ROMANIA - CRAIOVA WORKS Official data -weight = 122 tons .
Wow, that's a laborious task, those guys did a good job though.
I can't believe someone would steal parts from a rail track; that's pretty low considering the wreck could cost lives...
Anybody else get the impression they've never done this before?
+ApolloWasReal
In Bulgaria that's the way... until someone gets hurt.
I went to work 35 years ago,,,, REALLY NO BODY KNOWS EVEN IF YOUR DAD OR GRANDPA'S WORK THERE IT'S A JOB YOU WALK IN TO GREEN AS A GOURD,,, AFTER 35 YEARS I WOULD STILL BE LEARNING NEW TECHNOLOGY EVERY DAY. ,,IT'S BALL BRAKING WORK,,,, YOU HAVE STEEL RAILS,,, WOODEN 8 FOOT TIES THAT WAY 70 POUNDS,,, AND ROCK LOTS AND LOTS OF ROCK,,,, HONEY IT'S A BALL BUSTER/BREAKER,,,, MY HATS OFF TO THE OLD HANDS/MEN,,,, BACK THEN THERE WERE NO MACHINES,,,,JUST DYNAMITE AND PICKS,,, AND SHOVELS,,,, AND TWO MAN,,,RAIL CAR,,, WITH A SEE SAW,,, TRANSMISSION,,,, UP AND DOWN COME ON EARL WE GOT TO KEEP OUR SPEED YUP TO GET OVER THAT HILL,,,,IT AIN'T THE HILL IAM WORRIED ABOUT IT'S I HEARD A WHISTLE COMING AROUND THE BEND ,,FRED,,,,OH FUCK,,,, SHIT THERE SHE'S IS HIGH BALLING,,,,,🚂HIGH BALLING MEANS FULL STEAM AHEAD/HAULING ASS ALSO LETS JUMP FRED,,, WE ARE GOING TO FAST TO JUMP ,, YOU WANT A BROKEN NECK
+Ivo Radoev ??
What, no women!! That's discrimination!!!
Actually they did a very good job given what they had to work with.
You sitting on the couch commenting when you are not there to assist is where you probably the best place for you.
is the takraf crane comparable to the "german" kirow cranes as i know them from the former GDR? I know that kirow seems to be something from eastern countries (russia?).
I am amazed to see that how people are working in side of a train placed on wood.
Scared the shit out off me to, only watching this... lol
health and safety....what's that ?
Ciekawe standardy budowy toru oraz jeszcze ciekawsza praca grupy ratowniczej... A nie dało się np łomami podważyć żeby wskoczyły zestawy na szyny? :)
What "parts" did the criminals remove from the track? Metal to sell as scrap metal?
Ivo Radoev. What scrap metal company would buy the parts from anyone other than a railroad?
Nobody cares. Scrap metal companies here buy everything in order to make a bigger profit.
Did they have a plan, or anyone in charge?
No, in most of the cases they improvise. Of course they have a person in charge, and they know how can do their job, but I mean there aren't two equal derailments, so there are different ways to put back on the rails a derailed car or locomotive.
It looked chaotic, with no person obviously in charge.
Chaotic is exactly the proper description, Sylvia!
Sylvia Else
I was partiticularly struck by the fact that the photos at the end showed that the crane was clearly capable of lifting the locomotive clear of the ground, which left me wandering what all the earlier stuff was about.
Why is the roof all black? O.o
It's a diesel locomotive, and the exhaust is on the roof. The roof is black because of the smoke exiting from the exhaust system.
Skip straight to 13:30 - thank me later....
Thanks, Bob.
Thanks!!!
digitalradiohacker not yet.
Bob Firth Thank you!
That was a cool video! Thumbs up!
Those cables don't look like they can lift any more than 300 tons.
I am guessing that old loco doesn't even weight 100T and they can only partly lift it.
The loco weights about 110 t
Are you sure?
I'm sure. I have the technical data of the loco and the weight is 110 t. When it's full with fuel, cooling liquid, sand and etc. the weight is about 115 t.
***** 110 tonnes? That light. In Canada locomotives are 400 to 500T. That explains the lack of ground gouging or how little damage to the track.
I was wondering the only real practical way to re-rail a derailed train is using a crane. But i would imagine the only practical way to get a crane out to a train in a reasonable amount of time is to have the crane bolted to some service train. What i am getting at is i don't think one just drives the crane like an ATV out there in most cases. (it to arrives by track)
I feel way to much focus on the loco and really little on the crane as a whole.
At one point around 4m on it became obvious the guys in right foreground were looking and pointing towards lower part of crane. My guess was outrigger was sinking under the load.
Sadly not filmed.
By 4.39 out of the 14.51 video I gave up watching.
If you ever get to film another rerailing with similar crane please show more of the whole setup...
Like how close was crane, what padding if any was under the outrigger pads, was the crane anchored to the rails with the jaw dogs and turn buckles? ETC.
Those RR workers have more balls than me. Too; going off the rails like that engine did, I'm surprised the bogies(?) weren't severely damaged.
Train looks like it's been in that hole for 50 years.
Typical copper theft eh mister Dimitrov? We maintain this problem here too, leaving our trains off schedule..
Absolutely no need to lift one side first, they could have attached the 4 cable set right away, would have saved half a day putting logs under the loc
That would probably have resulted in a fail video where the crane tilts over.
Battery low not Baterry low Spasiba Tovarich
That's a 0-60 DA model 42
Значи успяха в края на краищата.
Колко дни отне операцията?
Локомотивът го вдигнаха на втория ден, т.е. в неделя. Доколкото разбрах до сряда са разчистили и оправили всичко и движението в участъка е пуснато.
Too bad you ran out of power when the actual action started. Still I enjoyed this video a lot, thanks!
Ladies do it
Ladies’ all
Well done ,Engineers .Very tricky,risky job Experience and. Honest hard work counts
Pretty strong body on that loco ,that the cables didn't dent it.
BateRRy low???
Do you know, did it end up in the scrapyard?
No, it was repaired and it is still in use.
Workers lacking Safety Equipment ..one cable snap "could have resulted in a fatality" Another World ,anotherr way to complete a goal"
Robert Foyder if cable snaps no safety equipment will save you.
Robert Foyder 00
Что за фигурка над прожектором?
Great video! Good work! :-)
Greetings from Romania
Andrew
+LDEGM Old Channel locomotiva romaneasca folosita de vecini.
LDEGM Old Channel '
Ciprian Cosaru adv
LDEGM Old Channel libanesetrane
LDEGM Old Channel I
Why did it fall off the rail? as one of our presidents said one time maybe this way he JV team. why did they pick it all at one time. they had to lift hooks on the crane.
The loco derailed, because there were missing parts from the track. The boom lift of the crane isn't long enough to serve the whole weight of the loco, so that's why they can't lift it without risking a crane damage.
Thanks a lot for sharing this video from tjb p.s 100% needs fix the rail.
Hey I am not doing anything, just here to watch, so I am going to stand in a potential crush area.
der Kran von TAKRAAF, den kenne ich doch, wo war das denn: DDR Tagebau Großgeräte Torgau, hab ich doch gewusst und schon gesehen und mit arbeiten müssen.
Lots of people all shouting instructions - a recipe for disaster! Then the film runs out....
Что самое главное для крана в данной ситуации? Правильно расставить кран на опоры!
Does this work?
In most of the times.... but it's dangerous.
Thanks good video
I love this loco..
LOCOMOTIVE is so cute..
Kamini Ramavat 7);
The crane could not pick up the whole load with 2 harness', so lets just use 1 to lift half; safety 3rd.
A very risky job, I was thinking they will lift the whole engine ....but that was not the trick.
Looks like the train was going slow enough to avoid damage
Haha, these my compatriots are professional amateurs, don't even bother to put on helmets, and the labour inspection authorities are busy watching TV serials.
Zauważcie, że dla bezpieczeństwa za lokomotywą jest węglarka dwuosiowa.
They needed two cranes in first place.
you need 2 crane to do that fast
yep, i mean that. sorry.
+Anthony Smith two cranes! not two crane's ....
You dont need two cranes obviously. Did you see the video?
Doesn't look like very safe to be down there while lifting up a locomotive of 894534958 tons
120 tons aprox...
What about a locomotive crew? Well, that is not passenger - it could be worse.
The locomotive crew was fine after the accident, they didn't have any injuries. And fortunately for this case, on this line there aren't passenger services. But this does not exonerate the perpetrators of the crime.
@@IvoRadoev Well, that cost no casualties
thank God there is 14 minutes of video doing nothing and a couple Snapchat pictures at the end showing the train back on the track. also god dammit you scratched my paint
Ahh man they scratch the upper surface with the cables.
Don't fret Super Buck. It will end up going to the workshops for a complete inspection and repair. They will repaint it where it is needed or completely if it is warranted.
This was about as interesting and exciting as watching grass grow. :(
Did you know that the growing region of a grass blade is the bit near the soil and not the tip? So if you want your grass to grow in an exciting manner then mow it first then water!
Well, OK then. Your comment was very educational for me.
kamencho1 Interesting link between train recovery and how to grow a nice lawn. I live in an apartment, so a landscaping company takes care of my lawn. And, fortunately, there are no rail tracks near me, so there seems little likelihood that any trains will be derailed here. I mean. I'm just sayin' LOL
Much like reading your comment.
The train looks like the ones from Romania
Justin 637 Yes, the locomotive is made in Romania.
@@IvoRadoev Oh, I didnt know that! Thanks for the answer!
,,ELECTRO - PUTERE ,, CRAIOVA ROMANIA .
Absolutely terrible they haven't got a glue none of them
Completely agree with you! Unfortunately that's the way of work in most of the cases in Bulgaria.
må bli skeivt fordelt på vekten med å bare bruke en vaier på løftingen.
Не слишком ли дохуя начальников? Isn't it too fucking important?
Браво Иво!
all scrap metal, now we know why it derail on the first place, all locomotives and cars that derail to that extreme head to the bone yard in our railroads
I hope the engineer was fired and sent into financial ruin, this must have cost that poor train company a few pennies.
ECWnWWF There is no fault of the engineer. A group of gypsies have stolen parts from the railway track and that’s why the train derailed.
Yes, gypsies always want lots of sleepers (ties) and rails. They use them for making dinosaur cages.
Interesting!
It's always easy to blame the Gypsies. Looks like poor or negligent track maintenance.............
Generally, the railway tracks in Bulgaria are not in good condition. But in that case really there were missing parts which are holding the rails to the sleepers. The driver of the train said that in a section of more than 100-150 m all of the bolts, nuts and other parts which are holding the rails were missing! And when the train has entered in this section, the rails just began to bend.
Why mention "Probably a group of gypsies have made the theft." Either you know they did and you mention it, or you are not sure and than you should not point a finger to a group of people.
I'm not sure at 100%, that's why I wrote "probably". I have not seen the group that have made the theft. I am not an eyewitness of the theft, but gypsies are these that make such kind of problems for the railways. So, let's say that I'm at 99% sure that the problem came from a group of gypsies.
TAKRAF. Technik Made in GDR. 👍👍😆😆
A good reason to always have a spare battery!! Good video however.
My favorite part of this world 🌎 is that it brings torture
Dźwig walczył ostro sam się wykoleił ale lokomotywe postawił na torach ! :-)
professionals at work.
Nice lok, make a good electric locomotive or E-lok! Shame for the vandalism!
What a joke wasted man power.
All the tools and no idea painful to watch
👀👀🔝🔝🚂🚂
impresionante acidente boa noite
Should have put it straight on to a low loader and brought it to the U.K. !!!!!
Now lets see how Germany would have done a similar thing! They´d have that Thing back on the rails in abour an hour. Or even less-
probably ten minutes whit the right crane and spreaderbars. (crane in the video could not lift it the first time due to the way the crane was placed, ) < in that kind off country's you have to work whit what you have, But a bigger spreader bar would have caused less damage to the cab) < and a lot less off directors would have helped to Lol, fact is, they got it back on track.., whit no one killed, thats a mirical in thefirst place! lol
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I saw that last week. It was great! Here is the link. 🚝
ua-cam.com/video/EFqTrbEFicU/v-deo.html
120t locomotive sitting 3m below rails in angle 45° and little bigger tramway (approx 20t) sitting on top of earthwork, You are right, that is really same situation. But yes, they could be next time thing a little about safety too.
beaux job
6 weeks later!!!!!!!!
Don't waste your time watching. No progress was made even to the very end.
too many chiefs not enough indians
dats racisstss
But mess and disorganization. Tragedy
Interesting video Ivo
very interesting!!!!
бая зор видяха хората , на много неудобно място е дерайлирал.
Горкият "Фил-фил" (Sulzer)!
Hulk n Superman strong then that Crane 😂
a rerailing jamsession
IOOKS LIKE IT IS GOING TO BE DERAILED FOR A WHILE LONGER