Holy shit that bit where he emerges from his own shadow was possibly the coolest moment in the movie. And there were a LOT of cool moments in that movie.
Of all the movies to be remade I cant believe this hasn't been done yet. Hes a badass comic character who's alot stronger than people know. From radio to TV to movies his powers range from an expert in hand to hand combat. Expert marksmen. Can cloud mens minds to appear invisible. Telekenisis he can shape shift his face. Hes an animal
Plus The Shadow was also the inspiration for not only Batman but also darkwing duck, darkman, v from v for vendetta, and the Jedi and sith from Star wars
alot of people dont know batmans character was based off of the shadow. a crime fighter to be feared at night. and man that laugh, still i dont think there is a superhero or villian whos laugh alone strikes fear in the hearts of everyone. epic voice. i just hope if they make a new shadow they can recreate the same voice and laugh.
Well he was partially based of the Shadow. He's more like a combination of the Shadow, Sherlock Holmes, Zorro, The Bat from the movie The Bat, and others.
Michael Joesph Technically, it's all the Shadow as Bill Finger openly admits they took a Shadow novel, Partners in Peril, and basically copied it near word for word for the first batman comic.
+Michael Joesph and Doc Savage. Doc trained, both physically and mentally, to be the best crime fighter ever. His dad died and left him one of the richest men in the world. He has a collection of vehicles docked out with special gadgets like cars, planes, and even a submarine. He doesn't us a gun but instead depends upon things like glass balls filled with chemicals that can produce smoke, explosions, or anesthesia which he carries, along with a grappling hook and silk rope, in his Utility Vest.
I like this scene too. Another thing I like about the shadow movie is the great score by the late jerry goldsmith. I also like music he did for the mummy. I wish there was another movie made about the shadow . but not done as a remake.
I will say the hurt he puts on these Mongolian warriors is impressive. He is literally knocking them through the air and just all around beating the hell out of them.
I saw this long ago when I was five or four years old and it blew my mind away. And it still does. And I think the cast of Alec Baldwin was perfect since I grew up with Volume one of the old radio series. And the Margo lane in this one I got a bit confused as to why they had her be able to read minds when she never did, as far as I know on the radio show. If they took that little thing the film maybe the film would've been perfect. And also I think that the Shadow series should be brought up as a tv series. The radio show had so many wonderful episodes that it was be a true fan's dream to see one of the episodes performed onscreen. Wouldn't you guys agree?
+vamphunterdlover My advice to you is to read the original pulp magazines on which the radio show and the movies were based upon. The character of the Shadow is very different from the radio or the movies.
love this movie. I wish they would reboot him, I mean comic book movies from the 90s weren't that good. Judge Dredd got a reboot, and was amazing. so The Shadow should be next.
You can almost feel the inspiration from Hong Kong cinema here - some of those gun fu backwards summersaults have enough propulsion and momentum in them to be a vintage John Woo film.
I wish Alec Baldwin had made a few more action / adventure films, or at least continued as Jack Ryan after 'Hunt for Red October'. He was good casting in that film and 'The Shadow'.
The Shadow essentially has all the same abilities and talents as The Batman save for the fact that he has no qualms about using guns and depending on the version of the character, has the power of illusion. I think maybe The Shadow wins.
DOOMED ! The fact that Batman uses glass bulbs that produce smoke, explosions, and knock out gas AND the fact he carries a grappling hook and silk rope to climb up buildings AND he's very wealthy and uses that wealth to create all sort of special vehicles AND that he carries his weapons in his utility belt... Change belt to vest and you have Doc Savage. Doc also does not like to use guns.
The shadow has telepathy, telekinesis and can make himself effectively invisible. On paper, the shadow wins. But it would all come down to who has more plot armor. Not to mention, newer versions of batman armor and gadgets could basically withstand and destroy small armies
Does anyone know how this moment when he emerged from his shadow on the wall was shot. What sort of FX trick was used? I tried to find the answer for many years but with no success
A computerized motion-control camera did multiple identical moves across the area, one with a clean background (only the poster and crossbow bolts) and another with that section of the set removed and Alec stepping through the hole left there. A rotoscope artist traced around Alec on a computer to selectively reveal parts of him, while another artist animated the shadow on the wall to match where Alec appeared. The three elements were composited together to make the final shot! If you look at the very end, there's a slight camera jiggle on Alec while the background stays completely still, an error in compositing or camera operation that gives away the trick.
@@pennygadget7328 Wow, thank you very much! I've searched the whole Internet to find this, without success. You are awesome) By the way, can you tell me how do you know this? And is there a way, or maybe a tutorial on how to do this, with contemporary technologies.
@@nikitamuromtsev3703 It was in a magazine around the time the movie came out (Cinefex, Starlog, that sort of thing) but I'll have to dig through my library to see which one. To do the effect now would be easy, but tedious since so much is glorified tracing. Amywsy, there are free and low-cost programs for masking, compositing, tracking, etc, the most robust being Blender. Look up "rotoscoping" tutorials to see if any of the apps call out to you. The big problem would be repeating the camera motion to get the clean background plate. If you're mechanically inclined, there are lots of tutorials on UA-cam for DIY camera sliders or automated dollies that can move the cam back and forth. If not, but you still want the camera to move, you may have to do it freehand and use 3D tracking to place a wall or object behind the person; if you're already masking them out for the effect, half the work for that solution is already done. The obstacle for anyone doing this are all the different skillsets involved. You have to learn multiple techniques and how to apply them, and your personal abilities there will decide the final approach you take. I wish my answer was better (or shorter!) but it took a team to make this shot happen, and while the tools have gotten more accessible and powerful, to do it now is still time consuming. I've got notifications on for this thread, so feel free to tap me for any follow-up questions... not much else to do under quarantine :)
@@pennygadget7328 I just bought a copy of that magazine, the one with The Shadow and Shiwan Kahn's faces on the cover, on eBay last week. Can't wait to read it!
Okay so they bring an original mongol back through time....somehow. I can live with that. What I have a hard time understanding is the fucker instantly knows what a flashlight is and how to use it lol
Shiwan Kahn and his Mongol warriors weren't time travelers. They travelled to the USA from Tibet. I recommend reading the novelization. Apart from being a great read, it fills in details like this and more.
Bald guy was in The Mask, as one of the henchmen (I think). And they definitely use Japanese in what they speak...ain't Mongolian. I've always liked this movie even though it isn't great. Some really good scenes, but overall, it ain't great.
Another mistake was having the Shadow give a damn about the bad guys. In the original pulps there would be a room full of bad guys. The Shadow would burst in with his guns in hand and a few seconds later there would be a room full of dead bad guys. Doc Savage was the one who believed that evil was a mental disease and tried to capture and cure the bad guys. The guns his aides carried were armed with mercy bullets that would only put people to sleep. Ham Brooks, his sword carrying aide's sword was coated with an anesthetic that put people to sleep. Those trademarks were put in the stores by Lester Dent. The first two Doc Savage novels had Ham running people through with his sword. And then there was Doc's crime college that was actually talked about in Truman Capote's "In Cold Blood" that cured criminals of their evil ways.
The Shadow is essentially a more brutal, gun totting Batman. When The Batman was originally created he was very much like the Shadow, however in the years since his creation he has gradually become a much more toned down version of the character. That said, The Batman has way more in common with the old school pulp heroes of the 1930's and 40's than he does with the Golden Age Super Heroes to which he is traditionally classed with.
@@Moviefan2k4 The Last Jedi isn't even the worst Star Wars movie if we're being honest..and none of the Sequels are. The two worst Star Wars films are Attack Of The Clones and The Phantom Menace.
I saw this movie a bajillon as a kid, and I still think that the Shadow's emergence out of the wall is freaking awesome.
Same. My favorite scene of the movie
Holy shit that bit where he emerges from his own shadow was possibly the coolest moment in the movie. And there were a LOT of cool moments in that movie.
Imagine if they did it with today’s CGI!
Of all the movies to be remade I cant believe this hasn't been done yet. Hes a badass comic character who's alot stronger than people know. From radio to TV to movies his powers range from an expert in hand to hand combat. Expert marksmen. Can cloud mens minds to appear invisible. Telekenisis he can shape shift his face. Hes an animal
Who would you cast?
If it was to be remade today people would be calling him a Batman Rip-off when the truth is quite the opposite.
If a game is made, make it Arkham-esque. Don’t forget to mention he’s the hero that inspired Batman in the trailer
Plus The Shadow was also the inspiration for not only Batman but also darkwing duck, darkman, v from v for vendetta, and the Jedi and sith from Star wars
The scene in the hotel where he just stands there with the cgi cape flowing - still gives me shivers!
M. Christian that scene is awesome!!
"I sense somebody's coming..." Just as freaking hysterical now as it was then
This must have been like Christmas morning for Boyle 😀😆😅😂🤣
I love how he begins with the laugh
emerging out of the shadow on the wall is still a great shot
alot of people dont know batmans character was based off of the shadow. a crime fighter to be feared at night. and man that laugh, still i dont think there is a superhero or villian whos laugh alone strikes fear in the hearts of everyone. epic voice. i just hope if they make a new shadow they can recreate the same voice and laugh.
True, he was also inspired by such characters as Zorro, the phantom, Doc Savage, Dick Tracey and Sherlock Holmes.
Well he was partially based of the Shadow. He's more like a combination of the Shadow, Sherlock Holmes, Zorro, The Bat from the movie The Bat, and others.
Michael Joesph Technically, it's all the Shadow as Bill Finger openly admits they took a Shadow novel, Partners in Peril, and basically copied it near word for word for the first batman comic.
+Michael Joesph and Doc Savage. Doc trained, both physically and mentally, to be the best crime fighter ever. His dad died and left him one of the richest men in the world. He has a collection of vehicles docked out with special gadgets like cars, planes, and even a submarine. He doesn't us a gun but instead depends upon things like glass balls filled with chemicals that can produce smoke, explosions, or anesthesia which he carries, along with a grappling hook and silk rope, in his Utility Vest.
Indeed. As an illustrator myself, I get a laugh when ppl say "The Shadow is a Rip-Off of Batman" when in fact its the other way around.
Such an Underrated Superhero film.
I like this scene too. Another thing I like about the shadow movie is the great score by the late jerry goldsmith. I also like music he did for the mummy. I wish there was another movie made about the shadow . but not done as a remake.
How cool is the Shadow's suit?
I will say the hurt he puts on these Mongolian warriors is impressive. He is literally knocking them through the air and just all around beating the hell out of them.
2:02 "Someone, get a duck!"
HAHAHAHA!!!! I wasn't ready for that, shyt made me laugh.
'Can't believe we left the duck, shadows hate ducks'
I watch this movie first time ever in my life. I was bit suprised that some special effects look still so good.
Next time.. you get to be on top.... -__-
+Jay inri That is funny
The only thing that was BAD in this scene. It was so fucking gay.
@@johnivanoplimo5172 lol yeah, I was like... WTF dude
Haha that was pretty funny XD
It was an add-lib on Baldwin’s part.
still an awesome effect of him coming out of the shadow on the wall.
I knew it! I remembered seeing Lords of the Rings and thinking "Where do I know Ian McKellen from? I've heard that voice before!"
I saw this long ago when I was five or four years old and it blew my mind away. And it still does. And I think the cast of Alec Baldwin was perfect since I grew up with Volume one of the old radio series. And the Margo lane in this one I got a bit confused as to why they had her be able to read minds when she never did, as far as I know on the radio show. If they took that little thing the film maybe the film would've been perfect.
And also I think that the Shadow series should be brought up as a tv series. The radio show had so many wonderful episodes that it was be a true fan's dream to see one of the episodes performed onscreen. Wouldn't you guys agree?
+vamphunterdlover My advice to you is to read the original pulp magazines on which the radio show and the movies were based upon. The character of the Shadow is very different from the radio or the movies.
Thanks for the advice. Do you know a good place where I can find any of the magazines?
vamphunterdlover
Here is a link to the first Shadow novel.
THE LIVING SHADOW - Encyclopaedia.com
www.encyclopaedia.com/ebooks/57/27.pdf
Thanks
Not only do I agree but your username made me reply because vampire hunter D was the very first anime I ever watched
This movie looks great!
love this movie. I wish they would reboot him, I mean comic book movies from the 90s weren't that good. Judge Dredd got a reboot, and was amazing. so The Shadow should be next.
Set in the Thirties or 21st century?
@@Wapak95 gotta be some 1930s film noir
I think they should btring this character back. He's really cool.
Always amazes me that this movie didn't do as well as it should have at the box office. I thought it was excellent.
one of the great underrated superhero movies ever
Jerry Word There *really* should have been a sequel.
Hell yeah
The original batman
'Aha, we took away his shadow! OH CRAP HE'S SHOOTING US NOW INSTEAD OF NON-LETHALLY PUNCHING US!'
LMAO!!!
I think this would be a great series. Netflix or Syfy need to get on it. I love the modern heroes but it is nice to see period superheroes.
Both need to stay far away from it, both are garbage
You can almost feel the inspiration from Hong Kong cinema here - some of those gun fu backwards summersaults have enough propulsion and momentum in them to be a vintage John Woo film.
Love this flick! Before it came out I cosplayed as The Shadow - came out pretty well actually
This guy definetely inspired fallout 4s silver shroad!
the shadow looks like a villain, but he's a good guy
This should be on Netflix
I wish
I wish Alec Baldwin had made a few more action / adventure films, or at least continued as Jack Ryan after 'Hunt for Red October'. He was good casting in that film and 'The Shadow'.
The coolest fight scene! I wish he fought them again i nthe hotel monolith scene.
I remember seeing this movie at cinema 6 and I love the movie to this day and one of Alec Baldwin's best movies ever
much like you, M. Christian, i did the cosplay as well, minus the LAR grizzly pistol .45, but i did have the red scarf and the ring.
Fantasy fight time!
Batman vs the Shadow
+spacemanandy2 Better, Doc Savage vs Batman. They had more in common than Batman and the Shadow.
The Shadow essentially has all the same abilities and talents as The Batman save for the fact that he has no qualms about using guns and depending on the version of the character, has the power of illusion. I think maybe The Shadow wins.
DOOMED ! The fact that Batman uses glass bulbs that produce smoke, explosions, and knock out gas AND the fact he carries a grappling hook and silk rope to climb up buildings AND he's very wealthy and uses that wealth to create all sort of special vehicles AND that he carries his weapons in his utility belt...
Change belt to vest and you have Doc Savage. Doc also does not like to use guns.
spacemanandy2 Batman was inspired, some say ripped off, from the Shadow
The shadow has telepathy, telekinesis and can make himself effectively invisible. On paper, the shadow wins. But it would all come down to who has more plot armor. Not to mention, newer versions of batman armor and gadgets could basically withstand and destroy small armies
i sense somebody is coming!
*splat*
never get's old XD
Tim Curry is coming to Boston comic con this summer I'm going to meet him since I'm going
How did that go?
John Doe I only bought an autograph at his booth hasn’t there because he was doing photo ops I think
This was the shit when I was 9 years old 💯
I like how a gun is going to knock a 200-lb man 20 feet into the air
holy shit! i always doodled a dude with long weird face ever since I was young and when I rewatched this movie I figured out why
One thing always bothered me - why is the bald bad guy winces and cries, it’s not like he has been hurt)))
They so need to bring back shadow. Such a dope character. Anybody but Michael Bay lol...
And not Christopher Nolan either 😑😒
Does anyone know how this moment when he emerged from his shadow on the wall was shot. What sort of FX trick was used? I tried to find the answer for many years but with no success
A computerized motion-control camera did multiple identical moves across the area, one with a clean background (only the poster and crossbow bolts) and another with that section of the set removed and Alec stepping through the hole left there.
A rotoscope artist traced around Alec on a computer to selectively reveal parts of him, while another artist animated the shadow on the wall to match where Alec appeared.
The three elements were composited together to make the final shot! If you look at the very end, there's a slight camera jiggle on Alec while the background stays completely still, an error in compositing or camera operation that gives away the trick.
@@pennygadget7328 Wow, thank you very much! I've searched the whole Internet to find this, without success. You are awesome)
By the way, can you tell me how do you know this? And is there a way, or maybe a tutorial on how to do this, with contemporary technologies.
@@nikitamuromtsev3703 It was in a magazine around the time the movie came out (Cinefex, Starlog, that sort of thing) but I'll have to dig through my library to see which one.
To do the effect now would be easy, but tedious since so much is glorified tracing. Amywsy, there are free and low-cost programs for masking, compositing, tracking, etc, the most robust being Blender. Look up "rotoscoping" tutorials to see if any of the apps call out to you.
The big problem would be repeating the camera motion to get the clean background plate. If you're mechanically inclined, there are lots of tutorials on UA-cam for DIY camera sliders or automated dollies that can move the cam back and forth.
If not, but you still want the camera to move, you may have to do it freehand and use 3D tracking to place a wall or object behind the person; if you're already masking them out for the effect, half the work for that solution is already done.
The obstacle for anyone doing this are all the different skillsets involved. You have to learn multiple techniques and how to apply them, and your personal abilities there will decide the final approach you take.
I wish my answer was better (or shorter!) but it took a team to make this shot happen, and while the tools have gotten more accessible and powerful, to do it now is still time consuming.
I've got notifications on for this thread, so feel free to tap me for any follow-up questions... not much else to do under quarantine :)
@@pennygadget7328 I just bought a copy of that magazine, the one with The Shadow and Shiwan Kahn's faces on the cover, on eBay last week. Can't wait to read it!
Why does he just stop when they shine the light on him and pin him against the wall with arrows? He's all like: "Ooo you got me!"
Tanmart Selby Shadow cannot escape light. Blinded.
He was faking them out. Making them think he was fatally wounded.
shadow know
Okay so they bring an original mongol back through time....somehow. I can live with that. What I have a hard time understanding is the fucker instantly knows what a flashlight is and how to use it lol
Shiwan Kahn and his Mongol warriors weren't time travelers. They travelled to the USA from Tibet. I recommend reading the novelization. Apart from being a great read, it fills in details like this and more.
Next time you get to be on top
Can you please upload that scene, where that bad guy wakes up in asylum and tries to convince a doctor to release him? :D
I wonder what kind of gun safety they thought on this movie or the main star practiced.
They didn't hire a chick, that helped.
2:10 the bad guys scream. Why? I have never understood this since I was 12. Did the Shadow do something and if so...what? It was never set up right.
A showcase of incompetance.
Does the shadow know martial arts?
Bald guy was in The Mask, as one of the henchmen (I think). And they definitely use Japanese in what they speak...ain't Mongolian. I've always liked this movie even though it isn't great. Some really good scenes, but overall, it ain't great.
0:33 Cape
Another mistake was having the Shadow give a damn about the bad guys.
In the original pulps there would be a room full of bad guys. The Shadow would burst in with his guns in hand and a few seconds later there would be a room full of dead bad guys.
Doc Savage was the one who believed that evil was a mental disease and tried to capture and cure the bad guys. The guns his aides carried were armed with mercy bullets that would only put people to sleep. Ham Brooks, his sword carrying aide's sword was coated with an anesthetic that put people to sleep. Those trademarks were put in the stores by Lester Dent. The first two Doc Savage novels had Ham running people through with his sword. And then there was Doc's crime college that was actually talked about in Truman Capote's "In Cold Blood" that cured criminals of their evil ways.
The Shadow is essentially a more brutal, gun totting Batman. When The Batman was originally created he was very much like the Shadow, however in the years since his creation he has gradually become a much more toned down version of the character. That said, The Batman has way more in common with the old school pulp heroes of the 1930's and 40's than he does with the Golden Age Super Heroes to which he is traditionally classed with.
He needed one alive incase he could get info out of them. He didn't care about his safety. He cared that he lost a source of info.
THE RADICAL WAVE FUNCTION FOR ONE r ONLY WHERE V (r) is the POTENTIAL ROBERT MALPERA
There not speaking a real language haha
Shadow's name is Lamont? Big dummy!
The most stupid movie of all time.
No, my vote for that goes to "Battlefield Earth", with "The Last Jedi" a close second.
The Dark Knight Trilogy is far fucking worse than this.
@@Moviefan2k4 The Last Jedi isn't even the worst Star Wars movie if we're being honest..and none of the Sequels are. The two worst Star Wars films are Attack Of The Clones and The Phantom Menace.
@@masterofthewicked89 Trolling ? The Dark Knight Trilogy is way better than this but Batman 1989 and Batman Returns are my favorite Batman films.