HI, I basically have a genie for everything, roughly 17x of them so that I can use the right genie for every possible situation :) I personally like to use Occult ice with 60 or 80 STR since it is RNG anyways. It can also fail with 100 STR, hence it's not worth it. Better use the remaining points for magic.
@@WereRotty I dont really recommend occult ice for basically anything at this point in the game. 100 str still seems like a waste tho. Even with 100 Occult is still a risk and having 40 less points on magic will hit you even harder if it fails.
@@JoePWI allright thanks for the fast reply. I play db and I think tangling mire with high strength is necessary nowadays. I will try 90 strength and reduce it to 80 if I have problems
All assasins on PWI are using Toxic Torrent with magic damage? And did this damage resisting by Lost Incantation Amulet? I think its really crazy to give them magic damage, mostly against BM. Btw you have knuckles but still playing with skills, on our RU PW BM`s are mostly fisters, is that different on PWI?
Fisters would be ok here too, but G17-weapons are hard to come by in our version. If you can get the G17.4 fists with 70 attack level and 0.1-interval that would be amazing. Other than that...skill spam works best, especially with the ultimate skill and the red glyph on River Avalanche. Also yes, Toxic torrent is OP. Since that sin here has quite a bit better gears than my BM he can easily kill me with it. Using magic defense charms vs it would be kinda foolish tho. Condensed thorn will trigger my magical def charms with every hit he does when the water buff is on and thus my physical defense charms take longer to reactivate.
Hm i thought there no problems on PWI to get G17 weapons cause on our RU PW 80% of PVP players have 40 atk lvl weapon minimum, at least our online getting lower with every day. But also our builds mostly using R8 than R9 and we shoud more farm than donate. But even 40 atk lvl G17 have a good ability and with 3.33 attack speed self (as i have on my BM with swap set for intervals) there no problem to kill any enemy, especially on your version when you doesnt wasting chi on Dragon Rising. Ofc Red glyph is very good, especially in Wonderland update when you have 20% ultimate for every skill, but i dont think River Avalanche is good for it. Yes its a most powerful skill, but you cant use it as stun cause of lossing chi. Sure its your own playstyle. And how i can see, there nobody abusing skills that returns chi with glyphs? Such as Heaven`s Flame with Golden glyph, when you`re starting the channeling and swap the weapon you`l get 0.6/0.8/1/1.2 (depends on glyph level ofc) for free. Idk maybe i just didnt saw that in PWI videos.
Ya, aps isn't very popular but especially for BMs..I still think it's a waste. I would only go for aps on specifically built sins or Barbs (barbs cause they can wear full r9 gear while having 3.33 aps) or maybe Duskblades. Many people have the 40 att lvl version of G17 too, here in PWI, but it's not as powerful as r9 in most cases and only the 70 Att lvl version is quite more powerful, if it's not just for specific procs. As for River Avalanche: Yeah, I can't use it to CC people anymore with the red glyph..but I try not to use it too much anyways..the skill itself is rather slow and fails to stun quite often...so for just CC it's a bit risky. The other options either deal not enough damage (Oceans edge), need to be spammed for chi (army, drake, ferocious) or have a way too long CD (Tsunami). So really, River is the only option but more CC really isn't needed anyways in 1v1. Smack + Whirlwind close the gap between rotp/Dragon Rising and RotP again and are harder to block than River's stun..since fortify is all you need to be free.
My BM in this video is full +10 with mainly +2 att lvl stones and a few vit stones vs a +2/+3 att lvl stoned sin so yes. As long as the gear is equal and you are smart about it then it should not be a problem :D
Yes, but you need to be smart about it ofc tho, 48 def lvl does not make a huge difference tbh IF your gear is up there in comparison. A max geared NP sin might still oneshot or twoshot you, however, even if you were jaded that hardly makes a difference if the gear gap is that massive so there is nothing to worry about :D
@@JoePWI yeah still trying to get my spirit in a good place. you have 7k more p atk then I do. But I don't have titles or +12 wep. Need to second rebirth dmg cards. Once I get those things the gear gap will be less huge for the change.
Assassins have gotten an update for their "Toxic Torrent" skill in the recent glyph update. When Glyphed that skill deals tons of magic (wood) damage which could've been fatal on his BM if he got hit by that. Ergo, he had magical marrow on.
Barbs have always been the strongest class in the game and with the recent updates they 100% are the strongest now in every situation, undisputed. BMs and Duskblades are also extremely powerful tho, BMs are a little stronger than DBs tho.
BM is actually pretty straight forward these days, get as much chi rebuilding Glyphs for your main skills as possible (Army Crusher, Ferocious Leap, maybe Drake's Ray), get the argent glyph on Dragon Rising, golden on HF and just cycle through all of your skills when needed. For 1v1, use red glyph on River Avalanche to Oneshot ppl.
"my only regret is not rolling bm from start and focus it". Never thought I'd hear Joe say that the Barb king. And here I am trying get as far from my r9 bm as possible. Mostly cause when spirit came out I fell behind and he's just paper now. Lol maybe I should go back turn him sage and to full atk lv shards. Lol
@@JoePWI so the only thing you disagreed with is sage? Lol. But it seems sage be better now since only thing missing is 100%roar but back when I was sage I never really missed roar anyway lol. Also do you still put 300 dex?
I was 300 Dex for the longest time, but since you can kill ppl easily now with a red-glyphed skill that literally increases your accuracy (for that attack) by insane amounts..it's not that needed anymore. I am rolling with 200 DEX atm. I vastly prefer Demon over Sage as a BM because the only real advantages Sage's got is the fact that their ROTP uses less chi, so in sticky situations you might be able to get a Roar out when the demon might not be able to and ofc, Master Li's - Chi skill. That is where the advantages for Sage end tho. Especially at endgame...demon marrows do not lower your other defenses too much. Sage Marrows make you insanely vulnarable to debuffs of the other types and might get you killed pretty fast, especially if you are selfbuffed/purged. I also think demon Auro of the golden Bell is quite a bit better than the sage version. Sure, Sage has 15% higher base buff but demon can be spammed and gives an extra buff to your squad mates as well. Perfect skill to save your squishy arcanes after a purge, crucial in most Mass-PvP situations. Most importantly tho, Star Smite. The chi gain with this skill in Demon is just insanity. At least for 1v1 and when you lock down one target...the chi rebuilding is real. Roar, Star Smite, Ferocious, Dragon Rising, Army Crusher, Ferocious, Star smite, Drakes Ray, Army into Smite + Whirlwind (genie skill, freezes for 1 sec, it's long enough tho to keep the lock) into Roar again, rinse and repeat! That is ofc only possible because demon Roar isn't only 100% chance, it's CD is 1 sec lower as well and that makes this possible. Sage cannot bridge that gap without Occult ice or other means. Perform that combo twice and by the time you would use smite you have nearly full chi again, if you started your first roar with barely 1 spark. Combos like these are the reason why Demon is vastly superior to sage xD
@@JoePWI ah I understand But on the other thing I believe you still get the 50 chi star smite with sage. But I can see what you mean about the combo. I guess cause my style was always bull rush kill for the longest time. But now always bm needs all this weapon switching and shit just meh lol. Thing I like about sage Bell is less things I have to upkeep means more aggro I can be. TBH I only duo with my gf in NW other than that fuck other ppl lol. I'm a 1v1 kinda bm so I never thought about keeping groups alive lol. Just seemed the only thing I lost against was a good demon bm but that was because my hf didn't last long enough to kill. But now since that's fixed just seemed like a good idea. But maybe the bm meta is Soo did now you need more.
NO! Synth is the god of Luck, literally every Elimination and CJ of his ends with a zerkcrit! Literally, can't be different, it's always the same :DDDDD
Well yeah, since we got massive chi rebuilding glyphs you can literally spam anything and abuse red glyph on River Avalanche, since it consumes half your chi and for every 100 chi consumed it will double the damage of the skill. 4x damage on full chi.
Will you actually gain 4x damage on full chi? Full chi is 3.99, not 4.00. Red glyph consumes 1/2 of your chi, it means 1.995 is consumed. It is not possible to consume 2 chi, cause you don't have 4 to begin with. Or is it?
Alexa Golfey yes, you will gain 4x damage..or in thst case roughly 3.99x damage. It's not cut in full 100 chi steps, every point of chi increases the damage.
Lmao, saying this makes you look like a noob. This game has too much RNG already, damage racing a sin is probably the dumbest thing anyone could ever do.
Timers on buffs/debuffs? OH FAC FINALLY
would bm be still top tier for pvp whitout glyphs and cards?
omg NICE play MY MAN, i like it :)
is this dark WX?
hello joe what genie do you use? and how about the genie stats allocation for occult ice?
HI, I basically have a genie for everything, roughly 17x of them so that I can use the right genie for every possible situation :) I personally like to use Occult ice with 60 or 80 STR since it is RNG anyways. It can also fail with 100 STR, hence it's not worth it. Better use the remaining points for magic.
@@JoePWI Joe do you still stand with that comment? Do you think I shouldn't put 100 strength points on paramount?
@@WereRotty I dont really recommend occult ice for basically anything at this point in the game. 100 str still seems like a waste tho. Even with 100 Occult is still a risk and having 40 less points on magic will hit you even harder if it fails.
@@JoePWI allright thanks for the fast reply. I play db and I think tangling mire with high strength is necessary nowadays. I will try 90 strength and reduce it to 80 if I have problems
@@JoePWI also do you know if dbs will get anything new on future updates? I certainly hope they do
All assasins on PWI are using Toxic Torrent with magic damage? And did this damage resisting by Lost Incantation Amulet? I think its really crazy to give them magic damage, mostly against BM. Btw you have knuckles but still playing with skills, on our RU PW BM`s are mostly fisters, is that different on PWI?
Fisters would be ok here too, but G17-weapons are hard to come by in our version. If you can get the G17.4 fists with 70 attack level and 0.1-interval that would be amazing. Other than that...skill spam works best, especially with the ultimate skill and the red glyph on River Avalanche. Also yes, Toxic torrent is OP. Since that sin here has quite a bit better gears than my BM he can easily kill me with it. Using magic defense charms vs it would be kinda foolish tho. Condensed thorn will trigger my magical def charms with every hit he does when the water buff is on and thus my physical defense charms take longer to reactivate.
Hm i thought there no problems on PWI to get G17 weapons cause on our RU PW 80% of PVP players have 40 atk lvl weapon minimum, at least our online getting lower with every day. But also our builds mostly using R8 than R9 and we shoud more farm than donate. But even 40 atk lvl G17 have a good ability and with 3.33 attack speed self (as i have on my BM with swap set for intervals) there no problem to kill any enemy, especially on your version when you doesnt wasting chi on Dragon Rising. Ofc Red glyph is very good, especially in Wonderland update when you have 20% ultimate for every skill, but i dont think River Avalanche is good for it. Yes its a most powerful skill, but you cant use it as stun cause of lossing chi. Sure its your own playstyle. And how i can see, there nobody abusing skills that returns chi with glyphs? Such as Heaven`s Flame with Golden glyph, when you`re starting the channeling and swap the weapon you`l get 0.6/0.8/1/1.2 (depends on glyph level ofc) for free. Idk maybe i just didnt saw that in PWI videos.
Ya, aps isn't very popular but especially for BMs..I still think it's a waste. I would only go for aps on specifically built sins or Barbs (barbs cause they can wear full r9 gear while having 3.33 aps) or maybe Duskblades. Many people have the 40 att lvl version of G17 too, here in PWI, but it's not as powerful as r9 in most cases and only the 70 Att lvl version is quite more powerful, if it's not just for specific procs.
As for River Avalanche: Yeah, I can't use it to CC people anymore with the red glyph..but I try not to use it too much anyways..the skill itself is rather slow and fails to stun quite often...so for just CC it's a bit risky. The other options either deal not enough damage (Oceans edge), need to be spammed for chi (army, drake, ferocious) or have a way too long CD (Tsunami). So really, River is the only option but more CC really isn't needed anyways in 1v1. Smack + Whirlwind close the gap between rotp/Dragon Rising and RotP again and are harder to block than River's stun..since fortify is all you need to be free.
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Going full atk lv bm would you still be able to tank sins if gear all +10?
My BM in this video is full +10 with mainly +2 att lvl stones and a few vit stones vs a +2/+3 att lvl stoned sin so yes. As long as the gear is equal and you are smart about it then it should not be a problem :D
@@JoePWI awesome. Going full atk lv bm just wanted to know I wouldn't go splat lol. If I can survive sin dmg I can survive any dmg lol.
Yes, but you need to be smart about it ofc tho, 48 def lvl does not make a huge difference tbh IF your gear is up there in comparison. A max geared NP sin might still oneshot or twoshot you, however, even if you were jaded that hardly makes a difference if the gear gap is that massive so there is nothing to worry about :D
@@JoePWI yeah still trying to get my spirit in a good place. you have 7k more p atk then I do. But I don't have titles or +12 wep. Need to second rebirth dmg cards. Once I get those things the gear gap will be less huge for the change.
Damn I thought you were gonna add our fight at the end I wanted to laugh 😅
NO! This video is purely dedicated to a very special sin :)
Joe PWI I see that😂😂😂
I also have a gift for this special sin, gonna be on my channel soon! :')
What is server? PVI?
*PWI
Yes, PWI indeed.
I wonder why you used the increase magic defense skill?
Assassins have gotten an update for their "Toxic Torrent" skill in the recent glyph update. When Glyphed that skill deals tons of magic (wood) damage which could've been fatal on his BM if he got hit by that. Ergo, he had magical marrow on.
Tks!
Anytime! :)
Let 1on1 with dusk with your bm , and what the strongest job in pwi ? Dusk ? Or barbs..
Barbs have always been the strongest class in the game and with the recent updates they 100% are the strongest now in every situation, undisputed. BMs and Duskblades are also extremely powerful tho, BMs are a little stronger than DBs tho.
U must make bm guide
Theres not enought online...
BM is actually pretty straight forward these days, get as much chi rebuilding Glyphs for your main skills as possible (Army Crusher, Ferocious Leap, maybe Drake's Ray), get the argent glyph on Dragon Rising, golden on HF and just cycle through all of your skills when needed. For 1v1, use red glyph on River Avalanche to Oneshot ppl.
@@JoePWI thank you sir😘
"my only regret is not rolling bm from start and focus it". Never thought I'd hear Joe say that the Barb king. And here I am trying get as far from my r9 bm as possible. Mostly cause when spirit came out I fell behind and he's just paper now. Lol maybe I should go back turn him sage and to full atk lv shards. Lol
Nah, not Sage xDD Demon BM FTW!
@@JoePWI so the only thing you disagreed with is sage? Lol.
But it seems sage be better now since only thing missing is 100%roar but back when I was sage I never really missed roar anyway lol. Also do you still put 300 dex?
I was 300 Dex for the longest time, but since you can kill ppl easily now with a red-glyphed skill that literally increases your accuracy (for that attack) by insane amounts..it's not that needed anymore. I am rolling with 200 DEX atm.
I vastly prefer Demon over Sage as a BM because the only real advantages Sage's got is the fact that their ROTP uses less chi, so in sticky situations you might be able to get a Roar out when the demon might not be able to and ofc, Master Li's - Chi skill. That is where the advantages for Sage end tho. Especially at endgame...demon marrows do not lower your other defenses too much. Sage Marrows make you insanely vulnarable to debuffs of the other types and might get you killed pretty fast, especially if you are selfbuffed/purged. I also think demon Auro of the golden Bell is quite a bit better than the sage version. Sure, Sage has 15% higher base buff but demon can be spammed and gives an extra buff to your squad mates as well. Perfect skill to save your squishy arcanes after a purge, crucial in most Mass-PvP situations.
Most importantly tho, Star Smite. The chi gain with this skill in Demon is just insanity. At least for 1v1 and when you lock down one target...the chi rebuilding is real. Roar, Star Smite, Ferocious, Dragon Rising, Army Crusher, Ferocious, Star smite, Drakes Ray, Army into Smite + Whirlwind (genie skill, freezes for 1 sec, it's long enough tho to keep the lock) into Roar again, rinse and repeat! That is ofc only possible because demon Roar isn't only 100% chance, it's CD is 1 sec lower as well and that makes this possible. Sage cannot bridge that gap without Occult ice or other means. Perform that combo twice and by the time you would use smite you have nearly full chi again, if you started your first roar with barely 1 spark. Combos like these are the reason why Demon is vastly superior to sage xD
@@JoePWI ah I understand
But on the other thing I believe you still get the 50 chi star smite with sage. But I can see what you mean about the combo. I guess cause my style was always bull rush kill for the longest time. But now always bm needs all this weapon switching and shit just meh lol. Thing I like about sage Bell is less things I have to upkeep means more aggro I can be. TBH I only duo with my gf in NW other than that fuck other ppl lol. I'm a 1v1 kinda bm so I never thought about keeping groups alive lol. Just seemed the only thing I lost against was a good demon bm but that was because my hf didn't last long enough to kill. But now since that's fixed just seemed like a good idea. But maybe the bm meta is Soo did now you need more.
Ppl focusing on chat more than video xdddd
The GG 😂😂😂😂😂 shut up god of luck loooll
NO! Synth is the god of Luck, literally every Elimination and CJ of his ends with a zerkcrit! Literally, can't be different, it's always the same :DDDDD
Joe PWI arent those all sins though xdddd synth is best sin in pwi
So easy to play bm these days...
Well yeah, since we got massive chi rebuilding glyphs you can literally spam anything and abuse red glyph on River Avalanche, since it consumes half your chi and for every 100 chi consumed it will double the damage of the skill. 4x damage on full chi.
Will you actually gain 4x damage on full chi? Full chi is 3.99, not 4.00. Red glyph consumes 1/2 of your chi, it means 1.995 is consumed. It is not possible to consume 2 chi, cause you don't have 4 to begin with. Or is it?
Alexa Golfey yes, you will gain 4x damage..or in thst case roughly 3.99x damage. It's not cut in full 100 chi steps, every point of chi increases the damage.
Noob wr, waiting tidal expired
Lmao, saying this makes you look like a noob. This game has too much RNG already, damage racing a sin is probably the dumbest thing anyone could ever do.