WE WEREN'T READY FOR THE END | Ren - "Su!cIde" |Twin Rappers REACTION/ANALYSIS | FIRST TIME REACTION
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08:09 - 3rd Verse (Emotional End)
13:07 - Final Thoughts
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This was a hard one to watch as we take a deep dive into Ren's - Suicide.
Ren's "Su!cIde" is a deeply emotional and raw journey that truly broke us. The way Ren tackles the issue of suicide, capturing the raw emotions that accompany it, is incredibly telling. He transforms such a dark topic with beautiful poetry, making it both poignant and powerful.
Ren has truly outdone himself with this one. It's clear he is trying to save lives and show those grappling with the idea of suicide that they are not alone in their struggles. This song is definitely worth putting on your repeat playlist; there are so many themes and nuances that might only become clear on a second or third listen.
We were deeply moved by this reaction, and we appreciate the raw, gritty emotion that Ren poured into "Su!cIde." It's a testament to his artistry and his mission to bring light to dark places.
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This song is about his friend Joe, in the comment section of this video Ren writes about Joe, their friendship and his death. Ren feels immense guilt over the death of Joe but Joe’s death and the impact it had on his family and friends is the reason why Ren never gave up during his years of suffering. He saw the impact it had on the people around him and he swore he would never put the people he loves through that.
Ren got a call 3am that his best friend was on the bridge where they lived. Ren put clothes on and ran, I worked in this village for 16 years and know where Ren lived it's literally a 5 min walk but he sprinted there for 2 miinutes and kept getting a busy ringtone until he was half way there and the phone went off. He was literally about a minute late saving his friend and has had to live with it. I remember when Joe went missing the whole village was hit hard. you should watch Ren's chapters on ren makes stuff it gives you an insight in to everything he's had to live with and so much hurt. Joe jamp off the Menai Bridge and the currents are notorious to be bad. love you guys xx big love from North Wales x
Was it the same water where Callum died?
@@JustMe-dy8cp it was a nearby beach on the Menai straights
@@Annie_MaycoxMUA thank you!
The video was filmed by his regular film maker Samuel Perry-Falvey in Calgary, Canada where Ren was getting treatment it was then animated by a clever British guy called Louis Mardlin.
He wrote this song, trying to explain what a suicidal person feels. His best friend Joe jumped from a bridge… the last part of the song was included after it was complete
The tears u hear are real. He literally recorded the end bit 2 lines at a time while he was writing it 💔
He is now allergic to most food and his meals used to be blended, but his body would reject the food. Hence it purges. He literally couldn't keep food down.
In the song Ren mentions that he couldn't wave his body off in the "Hearse"
Hearse is not a body bag.
Hearse is a long vehicle used to carry the body of a deceased person in a coffin at a funeral.
I love that your cat knew it was an emotional moment and stayed to give you some comfort. ❤ (I posted that before he complained! 😂)
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This song is a beautiful glimpse at Ren’s soul, but please do:
-For Joe
It’s a live performance for Joe’s family
"for Joe" is a different song made up of parts of 3 songs about Joe (iincluding the end of suicide) It is less emotional but more beautiful. It is also a great example about how well Ren plays the piano.
My dude you were holding the cat tighter and tighter when it went on. I felt what you felt at that moment. ❤😢
The part where he talks about "purging" is referring to when he was at his most sick and almost overnight he developed allergies and intolerance to a massive range of foods. I believe this was in response to the meds and treatments he was getting, years before getting his correct diagnosis! He was essentially being treated for illnesses he didn't have, and the side effects made him even more sick! His psychosis and inability to eat were just some of the issues that he suffered through unnecessarily because he needed treatment for Lyme disease but just kept getting wrong diagnoses and treatments.
I hear lots of people comment on how Lyme disease can be managed fairly simply, but only if it's identified and treated quickly. Imagine being given countless diagnoses over a decade and countless unnecessary treatments and medications that made you way more sick, whilst the actual illness was allowed to grow inside him. Battling all of those factors, as well as the trauma of Joe's suicide, the side effects of all the wrong meds; he had to face the idea that he may well die from his illness!
The strength to go through that and come out as a truly amazing artist is just awe inspiring! ❤❤
From what I’ve read, his friend Joe called another friend to say goodbye and then that friend called Ren. He went to the bridge right away but was too late. Joe’s body was never found.
Ren was called by a friend in the early hours of the morning, Joe had called them to say he was on a bridge ready to jump, Ren rushed to the bridge calling Joe on his phone as he did so, the phone rang a few times but then went out of service, Ren arrived at the bridge a couple of minutes later but there was no sign of Joe. Ren was "late like a jerk" but there was nothing that Ren could have done, he still feels the guilt of not being there for his closest and best friend, there are a lot of songs in Ren's catalogue that are about Joe and lots of references in his music.... The swan ton bomb lines especially as Ren first met Joe when visiting his house for the first time, and when he met Joe a skinny freckled kid was standing on the back of a sofa and then Joe did a swan ton bomb of the sofa to land flat on his back on a concrete floor, he lay there for a few seconds the leapt up and did it again, Ren always said Joe was his biggest fan and closest friend.
Ren had an interview with Knox Hill, in which he talked about Joe and his suicide, after the interview he realised that although the Suicide track which he wasn't to happy with (he thought the song wasn't finished) was completely done and ready for release he didn't think it was a complete song.
He then wrote the lines to the second part, literally writing the line and then recording it straight away so the tears you hear are genuine, he then got the guys to fly out to Canada so they could film the video portion, which was then sent back to the UK to be mastered and added to the Suicide track, I think the whole thing took like 3 days and made the song perfect.
Such a perfect explanation 👌🏽✨
I love how the kitty came to sit with you during the second part. They knew you needed a little extra loves 🥹💜💜
You guys gotta watch the live version. Idk if you guys know this, but a couple months into the second year of his illness when he was still searching for answers, he told his mother that if there were no answers by the end of the year, he would be around for a third year and he was sorry! I’m sure she thought for sure they would have answers by the end of the second year that he was just upset and venting, but he was serious. And the craziest thing is his best friend Joe, Jumping off 100 ft bridge, is what it took for Ren not to take his own life. He saw the negative impact that had decided. He was going to have to wait for the disease to take his life but it was ok because he knew it would be relatively soon, but unfortunately for him, it was still 6 more long years until he even got a proper diagnosis! And that’s why this man is amazing, unique, compassionate, driven, and unapologetically the fuckin man! I love your reactions fellas as well as your original content. I hope you watch the 8 part series he really tells it all and you gotta appreciate his willingness to put it ALL OUT THERE. Gotta listen to Lateralus by TOOL, one it’s an all-time masterpiece, two it’s written about the Fibonacci spiral. It’s an exact mathematical equation like 1+1=2+2=4+4=16 and so on and you get a never ending spiral like the kind you see on a Batman cartoon. And then double Dutch yes is a jump rope game but it also is a term for basically speaking gibberish not making any sense no pattern, rhyme or reason. NYCrepresent the heavy breathing is because he was running to the bridge to try and get to his best friend before he jumped and he said he kept calling and the phone was busy so he knew he was on the phone still which gave him a little bit of hope, and then a little past halfway, which he said is a 3 to 4 minute run the busy signal was gone and said number is not in service and his heart dropped! Then the instrumental piece McKay is about his other best friend that died about six months later drowning accidentally. Unfortunately I lost both my best friends to suicide as well, one 3 weeks before his 22 birthday and the other on his 40th. I think he ended the song perfectly with the word fuck. I hate that he blames himself . I did that shit a long time and it sucks. And then I lost 5 friends in the WTC attacks one while I was on the phone with her trying to navigate her out cause she couldn’t see. I was 2 blocks away and I the sound of people jumping has never left me and never will. I am really proud of him for bringing attention to this subject that always gets swept under the rug and thank you Ren for changing the spelling to get through the YT ALGORITHMS. I’m sorry this post is so long fellas, but the last part he added after he did an interview with Knox Hill. I’m pretty sure Nox cousin passed away from either accidental overdose or suicide and Red went back and either put this part back in or then wrote it and added to it because he felt it wasn’t complete. And boy the song is amazing but the End is so tough and hard to put yourself out there like he did and I respect him so much for doing that because that’s the part that will save someone multiple people guaranteed. He actually went and played it for Joe‘s mom. I can’t remember how long after his death. I think it was about six months to a year, but he hasn’t seen her and he went and he played it for her wanting her to hear his art and I’m sure get her blessings on posting this song about her son. he said they had a long embrace and they cried a lot together and she loved the song I’m gonna give him a little bit of closure. He said that Joe was the comedian of the group always telling jokes and making everybody laugh and that I think over Christmas break he was working on something and they went out for a drink and he said something about suicide and took it as like a joke because he joked about everything And then one of his female friends I guess text him or somehow told him she was on the phone with Joe who was on the bridge and Ren lived the closest so he woke up out deep sleep, put on his shoes and started running but in his mind, not fast enough or I’m sure there’s a little bit of guilt that when he mentioned it to him that he kind of like yeah you’re joking. My buddy said from the age 29 that he was gonna shoot himself when he turned 40 because he had a club foot and this he couldn’t get it amputated or fixed that was gonna be his solution. I used to ask him why do you say that shit man stop saying that stuff don’t even joke around like that if you’re serious let’s go get some help. Talk to somebody.. But he never would, but then on his next birthday, he would say the same thing when I turned 40 and it was next birthday when I turn 40. Well, he called me and I was bartending a party and didn’t answer, but he wasn’t bluffing.. So seriously if you have a friend or a family member that even says it once take them serious!!
The emotional support cat came through at just the right time there.
Your reaction is so kind, understanding and sympathetic to Ren's song and experience of loss! We love Ren for always being real with his emotions and bravely putting his feelings in his songs❤
watch for Joe and mackay that's another one of Rens friends who drowned jumping in to the sea to try and save someone else, Heartbreaking that he's lost two very close friends in the same sea current . Can't imagine what he's had to go through with physical and mental pain x
I'm not positive but I thought Mackay was struggling and another friend jumped in to save him and they both drown 😢
@@patriciaobrien6600 ah you might be right sweetie, I thought in the Ren chapters he said Callum camp in to try and save his friend but I might have got confused xx
Of course "For Joe" has to be next since it's a follow up/acoustic version... beautiful song, a true tribute for his friend. What tragic ren has been though. His other song Mackay was his another friend that committed months after Joes death. Everything is true. Knox Hill's interview with Ren tells everything.
Also wanna add about the heavy breathing... He struggled with panic attacks, and if you haven't ever had one or anxiety in general, most people breath heavy like that when feeling either of those. He uses it in songs of fear/pain/anxiety.
Thanks guys, that was a very thoughtful and empathetic reaction. I really appreciated the background music used when you were speaking. Had a nice calming effect. ❤
Dude, I had that same Six Flags shirt!!! This is a serious song that I deeply respect and I don't want to make light of it in any way. I respect the way Ren uses his loss to inspire others. I also like that shirt, on a completely different wavelength. This isn't a troll; both things can be true.
The other thing that should be included in this is that on Drop Day, we gathered on Twitch afterward, as we'd done throughout the Sick Boi song drops. His first, and main, concern was that he wanted to hold space for anyone who may have struggled with the song, or been triggered by it. And he created an opportunity for us to support each other as well as to support Ren. Because he is so empathetic.
Thank you 🙏❤ Julz & Trix ❤ for your 🐷 Ren - 🌉 Su!c-de reaction! #ren #suicde #sickboialbum R.I.P. Joe Hughes
The live performance is called 🌉 For Joe
"A man isn't dead as long as his name is still spoken" - Sir Terry 'Pterry' Pratchett
Notice that Ren, who loves busking (playing music on the streets for passers-by) is paying some money to the busker.
There is a documentary style interview with Ren called Behind the song suicide with Ren ua-cam.com/video/HCm5wghhSd4/v-deo.html but you may want to watch or react to "For Joe" and/or "Freckled Angels" first.
I also get the feeling that the homeless man could be a representation of one of the 'angels' from his chapters. He mentioned a hallucination of a homeless man who told him everything would be ok.
@@PeteFindsObscureStuff Yes, great thought. I recollect that the man was black in his Missing: Chapter #. The busker in the video could also have been modelled after Dirt Miller 🙂
[I edited this answer immediately after posting, as my thoughts would not quite translate into the right words first time round.]
I have appreciation for this one (though I hit skip on it a lot), but I appreciate it because it shows BOTH sides (and there's def 2 sides) - from the one who takes their own life, the fear, the uncomfortable head space they are in, the pain... as well as from the "survivor's" view - how it affects those that love the lost & the pain it causes. It's a different kind of pain, one I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy, one that'll change you forever, which is why Ren talks about it a lot, I think. One he will never be the same, two he wants to save anyone he can from this pain.
I belive I heard this song 1000 times. But the last vers always hits me and the tears are running 💔
Ren is special..❤❤
Moar kitty! Loved your reaction to this fellas.
Respect guys 😀Ren added the altro as an afterthought. The song didn't feel right, then he wrote a line, went into the booth and recorded the line until it was done.
Joes body was never found and Ren was going around town posting up missing person flyers. Later like year ago or so ren donated a bunch of money for the people that went to look for him in the water. Coast Guard?
I absolutely recommend watching Knoxs Hill interview with Ren that tells everything. Very good listen.
This song is about Joe a friend of RENs. I recommend a reaction to -for Joe
I’ve listened to this song so many times since it premiered. I still cry when ren cries.
This song makes me cry every time I listen to it.
It has to be difficult to react to such a raw and even jarring song like this with a camera in your face. It was smart to have your emotional support tuxedo cat there for comfort. ♥️
I was a blubbering mess the first time I saw this video and it always brings a tear. It’s such a powerful piece of art and I hope it gives anyone pause who might be thinking of ending their life because it is everyone left behind who will pay the heavy price. 💔
Hey guys, Should react to his newest live acoustic TROUBLES.. SO good !!
The last bit of the song was added later. Like a few days or weeks before the song was scheduled to go live. After ren was inspired during an interview with your colleague knox hill
I just realised why I am so attracted to the artist known as Ren. Yeah, he has GREAT talent and music.. .. but it is seeing and getting to know him intimately.. warts and all. I also am absorbed with The Warning.. totally different (3 Mexican sisters who are a great rock band), but for similar reasons.. their lives are on display for all to see and they have great personalities
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The sadistic/masochistic flip between verses is epic
I always hear this track as two halves of a whole.
The first half, Ren talking about himself and suicidal thoughts and the second half about his experience around his friend Joe’s Suicide.
He wrote the second half of the track some time later than the first…seem to recall him saying that he felt it was ‘unfinished’ and an interview he did stirred up thoughts and feelings about Joe’s death.
Ren’s work is so good at opening up topics of conversation that are often shied away from and this is no different.
Thanks guys 💜🔥
loved seeing you guys interact with your kitty. now i know you guys are the real. i just subbed.
Awe, hello beautiful Papa! ❤️
Thanks, guys, another great reaction. Addition of text bubbles for clarification are very helpful.
Awesome reaction. You both always do amazing!
Damn is right!! Heart braking 💔💔 but probably very therapeutic for Ren!!
People always feel like they should have done something different and maybe the person they’ve lost might still be here.
Is album freckled angel is named after Joe. He has a song called freckled angel witch is amazing
I recommend “Freckled Angle”. Beautiful song for Joe.
This song makes me cry every time i hear it. I lost my uncle to suicide right around the time it came out.
The hearse is the vehicle they transport the coffin to the. Grave in
First half is talking about his depression about being sick for so long and the second half is about his friend Joe.
During his illness his body started rejecting food and he could only keep down broth.
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I think to lighten things up after this song Blind Eyed feat Angry car park attendant.
A bit of fun with incredible vocals from Sam tompkins and if course Ren
You wont be disappointed
Ren got a call in the early hours of the morning from a friend sayin Joe was on the bridge and going to jump.
Ren raced to the bridge calling joe but the line was always busy. Just about minute's before Ren got there the line went dead. Ren got to the bridge and Joe was gone.
They have never found his body.
Rens first time meeting Joe was when joe done a swanton bomb over a couch or bed. Ren rederences this a lot.
And he had loads of freckles..hence freckled angels.
“Light goes out on the other side” is in reference to his best friend who committed suicide!
Aww ❤sweet kitty 🐱
A light goes out on the other side, not inside
Hes done another song about the same subject its called For Joe another very deep song
Joe jump off bridge and Ren was 5 minutes late from saving him
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RIP Joe Hughes
Yes indeed ! Will be covering his Joe tribute soon. Stay blessed my friend
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You gotta do: Ren - For Joe (live performance) next
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To me, the first part of this song is about Ren contemplating S. Being in pain 24/7 makes you think about it. I know..Never felt like the right time he sings. The second part is for his friend Joe Hughes. Ren says he stopped thinking about it as he felt and saw the repercussions of S. I know as my Mom committed Suicide 😔😔. Edit: I typed too soon because you said the same 🙂
😊 well done❤
Awesome reaction 👍👍 For Joe is the follow up song ✌️RIP Joe Hughes 🙏
Crying in the rain with a smile on your face is the hardest thing to read. Please talk to someone. You never know how much it can help. ❤
Did you just pass gas or something that got your beautiful cat so upset?
... don´t like the extra music/noises when you are talking it´s to distracting for me...
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