RATE THE SUPERS! TEKKEN 7 - Rage Arts & Rage Drives
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
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Max is back once again to rate some more supers, this time in the now content complete Tekken 7! With classic, stand out characters like Kazuya, Akuma, Heihachi, Jin, and many more, surely there's gotta be some sick supers in this game, right?
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Had to reupload due to FAHKURMUM's super not making it before. Should be good now!
You should do Street Fighter X Tekken. Due to some of the supers being the inspiration for the rage arts in this game.
@@Epic_Amir_Hamza That would be cool. And he should finish the mk11 stuff.
ah was wondering why did the already watched sign is gone
@@Epic_Amir_Hamza I was so freaking excited to play Kuma in SF X Tekken and then I saw the super Capcom gave him and my enthusiasm for the character just collapsed into a singularity and was never witnessed again.
All right thank you for the dedication.
I forgot how many Rage Arts are just "bunch of normals, hit guy into the air and hit them again"
@joao santo nah we expect them to look cool af
@joao santo I don't even play the games you listed. Like I said, we just expect them to look cool af. Almost all the supers are anti climatic
@joao santo I feel like it's going over people head. If I can do the same thing that a drive can it doesn't make it look great. Specially since some people in the game are not human or super human. You could make a camera work angle and add some impact to the punches would totally change the the vibe. A good topic is UFC. We have a guy that likes tekken and that's cool (Kinda sucks ass online) and is fun seeing the close wins but the drives suck ass. When we play UFC it doesn't have anything but real fighters but there will be one cool time on the reply we see where the combo looked sick af and had impact when you see those punches. That for what it was, was hype. Again it doesn't have to be planet buster specials just some good camera work and sound quality could make a big difference
@joao santo soul calibur 6 kilik does it
@@gatfatf totally agree. rage arts are supposed to practical, hence why most are "basic"
Damn, Max should've done Lee's Rage Art with the Violet alt on so he could hear the E X C E L L E N T voiceline.
IKR i was so upset it was skipped
That alone would have made it a 10!
from a 9 to a 10
OH SO HE DOES SAY IT?? IT just depends on picking Violet instead???? I had no idea but its still weird since Lee has said Excellent more than Violet has
Someone called me Gatekeeper while l was playing this game? l don't understand..
I think the King supers are better when you know the origins of the moves. For an outsider you gave it a more objective rating. The first one was an emerald flosion which is an iconic Japanese wrestling move. The second one is even cooler imo because it’s Kazuchika Okada’s finisher the rainmaker, it even has the pose and falling money.
RAINMAKER
RAINMAKAAAAAAAAA
Them being based on real wrestling moves is "neat" but they are still basic wrestling moves in a game with robots, lazers, ninjas and powers. In fact, some of Kings chain command grabs are cooler looking.
I agree with Max on those personally.
THE RAINMAKER!!!!!!!
RAINMAAAAAAKAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
Oh and Lars does the Tanahashi Slingblade
For everyone wondering why the reupload: This one has Fahkumram where the other didn't.
Thank you, I was wondering!
i noticed that
He's forgettable and disappointing of a character that I didn't even notice
@@Valanway I thought he seemed cool, but I don't play a lot of Tekken and I have the bias of being a Sagat fan
@@millythompsonfromtrigun98anime He did seem really cool in the trailer...up until they showed him in gameplay and he shrunk about 4 feet, 150lbs of muscle and lost 50 degrees of intimidation. Why have a poor man's Sagat, when you can have the real Sagat, after all.
Rage drives are supposed to be ex moves in this game so It makes sense they're rated kinda low unless your teleporting with powers are using ninja arts.
He seems to just have so much expectations and expected some flashy supers in a tekken game.
yeah i feel like max was equating the RA to like Ultras in SF4 and he was thinking RD is like the Supers from SF4. I dont play Tekken but my guess is there kind of like the unblockables from Soul Calibur
@@datrulz12 They're not unlockable (except Geese which is high so you duck to avoid it). In fact, 95% are launch punishable.
@Francisco Cerpa yeah because is tecnically a command grab
@Francisco Cerpa in tekken the ragin remon can be "blocked" by jumping, (even when the hitbox still hit you) so yeah, is more like a command grab than cant be broken than a unblockable
The DLC supers are definitely the better ones, in comparison to the others.
But Miguel
@@nikhilbhavani981 Miguel was added in fr, those lame ones are all from original arcade
I feel that is almost always the case though
@@ArtyomFinch Pretty much.
...as a Lidia main I beg to differ her Super just feels so flat imo.
For anyone who already watched the original video, Fahkumram was forgotten and added to this new video. So 18:24 - 19:11 for his ratings.
7:20 for bobs rating on rage art.
Okay, I knew he missed him. XD But here's the thing I'm wondering... Did he actually rate Bob? With Lucky Chloe, his lack of rating was a joke, but I don't recall him saying anything about Bob's Rage Arts. He talked about his Rage Drives though.
@@alexmcneill6445 oh right! I noticed that in the original. 7:20 so a 7 for the rage art. I’ll edit it.
I finished the last one before realizing this new one was uploaded... At least I can finally know Max gave Bob a seven.
Man I forgot Jin wears a Hoodie tucked into leather pants in this game. What a menace.
Glad the New Japan Pro Wrestling Rage Arts got added points for being sweet as hell.
And weird ass gauntlets overtop his arms with said hoodie and leaves his chest exposed.
Anna 10/10.
Anna proving once again she's so much better than Nina in every way.
It’s probably the most unique RA in the game
8:07 King: Which way we goin'?
Everyone: THAT WAY!
I can't believe he didn't kill with the demon, it has such cool visual effects when you kill with it.
If I recall from doing my own look at it, Training Mode in Tekken 7 just doesn't really have a way to set up "kill blows" in Training
Same thing with Ganryu
Demons were pretty much the same in every iteration
Except sfv
I wish tekken did that
I think it makes sense that the Rage Arts in Tekken look so abysmal considering this is their first attempt at putting Supers in Tekken. Like you said, the Vanilla characters had it rough as hell and the animations progressively got better and more creative with the Console release & DLC Characters. I really do hope that we get more crazy and ridiculous looking Rage Arts in Tekken 8 if the mechanic returns. Street Fighter IV & V are still the undisputed kings of fighting game super animations in my opinion.
Mortal Kombat's animations tho
Guilty gear is the king of awesome supers imo
Guilty gear and Mk has some things to say
@@arandomguyontheinternet2308 mk has mostly shit animations tho excluding supers
@@ReinAfterDark ¿and gg?
Don't know why he's bothering with this one. I love Tekken 7 to death, but 90% of the Rage Arts look straight up lame. Just a series of regular moves with some more dynamic camera angles. They got better with some of the dlc characters. Btw, the glowing scars Fahk has are burns from when he was struck by lightning. Those kind of burns have a specific name, I just can't remember what it is.
They're called a Lichtenberg figure.
Lichtenberg burns in lightning... Patterned burn resembling tree branches.. Only only in lighting burns, in electrical burn we see joule burn, spark burn and crocodile skin depending on the point of contact and exposure of current..
I have the same train of thought as you Melvin.
And yet he refuses to do Skullgirls 2nd Encore. What the heck?!
Noctis got the best rage Art.
Damnit, I was right in the middle of the other one.
I took a break in the middle of the video to get a drink of water, came back and it said "video unavailable" and I was like WAT
Gotta be quick
the main problem I with Max's critque of rage drives is that, yes by themselves they are boring. but in the context of a match can be really exciting. the sound, the flash of colour the fact they come out so fast is like a big ol' dopamine hit to the brain to me.
Bro, they suck, context or otherwise
I thought the entire point was he's rating it in a vacuum solely on visuals... Why tf are you bringing up the context of a match
@@tingispingis because they aint supers
@@revenant131 how are they not?
@@revenant131 imo anything with limited use in a fight can be considered a super. Yeah not all consume bars. But we always knew max rates supers based on visuals. He doesnt follow competitive gaming as he is a content creator who doesnt have time to watch others and needs to come up with his own ideas, stream and do events of his own. So yeah, list defo not for only tekken players but literally everyone including tekken players. Simply rating based on how good they look, no tier list bias therefore no negate salt.
"Take these fucking knives and this....ROCKET LAUNCHER?!"
Love the surprise in Max's voice when he says that.
25:32 This entire Feng's segment is a masterpiece.
Hate to break it to ya, but most of the funniest moments is in the stream and not at all here, like with Chloe, or about halfway through to Julia, Max started talking about how super cool Virtua Fighter is like Akira.
@@polymathicheretic5068 Lul, I would wanna see that.
I really wish Max hadn't watched the DLC ones until the end because it's very clear that they put more effort into the later ones and their original characters than the original cast. Also yeah, Most Rage Drives are more akin to EX moves than supers so it's weird he even included them.
Honestly most of Tekken's rage arts and stuff seem more just...utility because they're just based on the character's movesets. They're mostly just a "This character hits you with a good combo" instead of "here's a cool new move they've been hiding" like other games.
Boring but practical unlike super-moves in most other franchises.
Translating “CHESTO!” To “feel the fury” always makes me laugh
Lucky Chloe's "Finish!" and "Oh yeah!" are translated to "That's me!" and "Yahoo!"
She's literally talkiing in English, what were the translators doing? xD
I always thought that line of dialogue was stupid and out of character anyway.
Nah but them making Lars' grunt translate to "Get outta my sight!" 😭
@@Jugdjay cause just "finish" without any context or add-in words makes little to sense in English maybe. Would have to be finished and even then it sounds weird
@@NotNowBiri
Unlike saying "That's me!" entirely unprovoked, which is considerably more natural.
I think what we need is a "rate the themes" on all UMVC3 characters
It'd just be all 10/10s
I remember how back in the day, these themes were so good they became memes.
Hawkeye's Theme makes anything better
M.O.D.O.K.'s Theme goes with trolling
Nova's Theme makes anything epic
Wolverine's Theme goes with Morphin' Time
@@MegaManXPoweredUp Oh my god yes, "Taskmaster's theme goes with anything" too
We need that for street fighter 6
8:05 - King's is a 10/10 with Tasty Steve commentary! "We're goin' that way! UHHHH!"
Yeah they should've added a customization item that would add Steve's voice lines to King's RA..
"Which way?"
"That way!"
Do you have a clip of that? I'd love to hear it lol!
Lol It's so good. I watched that part of the match at least 5 times.
See I knew about King's Okada outfit and subsequent Rainmaker super. I was unaware of Lars and his Tanahashi outfit and Sling Blade super. Both are really good.
I've never seen Katarina's rage drive before for some reason, had no idea she had a people's elbow!
I do remember akuma having a secret background animation after using his rage art on an opponent when their health is very low. Well if Max does do it back then, I'm sure he'll up the point by 1 to which it'll be an 8.
Yeah he gets an special Ko animation
I think a few characters get small finale changes if their rage art K.O.s. Another that comes to mind is Negan taunting after the hit.
Akuma deservedly gets the flashiest though.
@@UncleGhiral geese Also gets one more cool câmera shot too with the rashomon
Akuma, Geese, Negan and Ganryu are the characters who have something special added if they K.O. the opponent with a Rage Art. From japanese characters appearing on screen to taunts and animations.
They really gave Kazuya from Smash his own game. That’s crazy.
I just hope it can make as big an impact in the fighting game genre
Max forgot that when you do Miguel's Rage Art on the robot characters, the POV becomes static.
@@MrTekhnical it doesn’t unfortunately
Some rage arts add some stuff if the kills the opponent, I love how Negan does the "Oh my goodness" when it kills someone with his RA
Played T7 heavy for years and only now am I realizing that only happens on kills. When he did it I was thinking "something iss missing, isn't he supposed to say oh my goodness?"
Ninas Rage Art feels like a comedy character special, tons of the flipping dipping fancy work and then one....unremarkable actual hit to finish.
And the final hit is completely removed from all the flippy-dips. Like if they really wanted to end in an armbreaker, why include the flips? It would fit her whole assassin/agent vibe so much better if her super felt more concrete/direct.
@@KeDe1606 Eh the build up is to make her feel like she's the one in control since she flows so much energy thru her body and gains so much momentum thru the sways to slam the opponent down, it's actually a real thing and pretty cool but still doesn't change the stupidity of her rage art imo
@@waserdert6259 I see what you’re getting at, and I know that these kinds of flips do exist and that they do fit a purpose here, but that doesn’t change the fact that they are still pretty removed from the final blow. It almost feels like a modern MK Fatality
@@KeDe1606 Yeah that's what I mean, even though the flips have some sort of a purpose the rage art itself is wack af
@@waserdert6259 yep, I agree with you. Sorry if I came off aggressive in my first reply. I was just really, REALLY tired
8:35 No pro wrestler is truly made legendary until he/she is turned into a video game reference.
this game is so beautiful, the graphics, the music, the stages, the characters. i love it.
If memory serves, Josie had a different animation for her rage art in the early arcade versions of Tekken 7. It was partially taken from Xiba's super in Soul Calibur 5, and even though it was copy and paste, it looked much better than her final animation.
Yup. Devil Jin had the same thing happen, and I honestly liked that one more than the final one, too.
Shaheen's in vanilla was also cooler, he snaps your neck
Also geese has a kill background
This reminds me a lot of SCIV; having its first-time super mechanic growing pains.
I think the biggest issues they almost all suffer from is pacing and impact. Aside from the "launcher into hit" supers, some just feel like they either hang on the wrong moments, or just don't hit with enough force to feel impactful.
LOL! yep
My biased for these moves makes me want to say not all of the rage drives are supposed to be flashy. They tend to be a sped up version of a pre existing move. They tend to have a different property an allow your character to possibly gain momentum.
The original cast definitely got the wack end of the stick with some of the supers like Paul's. But even with his he has the ability to cancel his rage art and convert into a normal combo. It's hard to rate a lot of these when you don't understand the opportunity the move brings when it's used. But again this was simply on what looked cool and what didn't.
Is your PFP a doggie cosplaying as Kite from .Hack?
@@philithegamer8265 Yeah lmao. Kite an .hack// have been my favorite Multi media franchise since a was a young Pup.
Honestly Steve's SFxT super is the best boxing super I've seen in a fighting game. For an already cool boxing move every hit packs _so much_ impact and it has a nice beat to it.
Really hope we get a X Tekken Rate the Super one day.
My biggest gripe with the Tekken 7 supers is exactly what you mentioned: It's like 2-3 hits into a launcher and then a "bigger" version of a normal move.
Becomes boring very fast.
While the Rage drives are great for gameplay purposes they are really lacking in the flare department.
If they bring back rage arts/drives for Tekken 8 I hope they are more diversified.
A lot of the older animations are just moves the characters already had at different angles. Despite how broken the new dlc characters are, Bamco did do a better job at adding more flare to their specials.
Surprised the mods never brought up Josie's old Rage art or Heihachi's story rage art for you to take a peek at.
I think this was all great for Tekken's first foray into a super-like system. Wonder what it's gonna be like in 8, because we all know Rage Arts or something equivalent are staying in.
Rage drives do look cooler during matches tho, like in combos and in neutral.
Some rage drives are light & simple!
I keep laughing my ass off looking at Max’s face when the slippery wet fish comes into frame at 26:29 LMFAO
I think this is a re-upload with Fahkumram’s section added in, which was missing in the original upload
So the story with Fahkurmum's glowing veins is because he got struck by lightning three times and survived so he always has a permanent scar from his head on down that he is the Sagat of Tekken pretty much.
He’s definitely an actual Muay Thai fighter. Street fighters lack of animation variety don’t do sagat justice
For Nina's Rage Art, she actually does a Triangle Choke, so she actually *is* breaking your neck when she does it.
A triangle choke wouldn’t break a neck.
And you can actually hear it, but the sound is super-quiet.
Yeah if you don't know bjj or mma it looks kinda lame or uneventful. That could've also been an arm bar/triangle combo. I also think she breaks the arm since the hit spark is on the arm
ok i will be honest very nice to see kazuichi okada being refenced in tekken with the outfit then his entrance with the raining money and the acidrain maker at 8:30
This was a fun one to watch on stream.
Can't wait for Rate the Blazin' for Def Jam FfNY.
Love how Anna's bazooka super is a callback to the Tekken 5 intro
It's actually adapted from her tekken tag 2 ending. Her throwing knives to Nina and Zafina and launching a bazooka to Kunimitsu.
Josie's Rage Art is a 10/10 because I used it to win a pair of headphones from a mini-tournament that was being held at a ComiCon
Did not know that King had a Rainmaker rage art, but that is super dope.
There is the story related rage arts with Heihachi, Devil Kazuya, and Shin Akuma
Chloe's best RA is actually when you only just-frame 4 or 5 out of 6, so in the end she goes "LUCKY!"
Respect for giving Lee’s Rage Art a 9👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Rage drives are all meant to be utility moves so it's kinda odd to rate them based on coolness
So of them do look cool tho so I don't think it's that weird
@@freyzerb.castro9124 most of those are used as combo enders tho, that's why they can be flashy
@@naiiin6949 no... they're not... they're used mid combo or launchers lol. there's only a handful of characters to use it as an ender and if they would, they would just rage art instead
@@parry3439 the three flashy ones that come to mind are kazuya's, fahkumram's and katarina's, which are all valid combo-/wallenders
You're right! The majority of Rage Drives in Tekken 7 are safe ways to open up your opponent for a desperate comeback. They're not meant to be flashy, just safe launchers to be used on a clutch moment, combo extensions or combo enders in some few cases. If Max is looking for coolness, that's what Rage Arts are for and that's why Rage Drives aren't called a second Rage Art like you would call a second fatality, for example. Even Jin's one, praised by Max is actually a utility one, since most of the time you cancel the animation for a more complete combo. Same thing goes for Lucky Chloe's.
Lei's, Nina's, Julia's and Steve's first Rage Drive is meant to glue the opponent onto the wall, getting a wall combo or cheap damage either to close out the round or maintain pressure. Ganryu's, Law's and Jack-7's are for taking a quick chunk of damage. In Ganryu's example, notice he goes into a stance called "Taichiai". From there, the player finishes the job by inputting a headbutt dive.
The Tekken game direction has always been reluctant in adding those things. That's why Tekken 7 is the first installment which has it. The problem is, although Tekken has robots, androids, demons, devils, a vampire, an exorcist and an angel, the majority of the cast is still made of normal human beings with a gift in their respective martial arts.
In my opinion, Eddy's one is the closest we can have of a cool super made by a human character, but that one didn't appease Max. If he was expecting Injustice levels of grandness, he surely got pretty disappointed.
The one thing i like about Tekken is how the Subs are always close to what Miguel is saying but they're not making the correct translation
During his rage art he says something more along the lines of "looks like you're about to lose" and then " GET OUT OF MY SIGHT"
Id love to see Max grind the next tekken game. Tekken needs more popular US streamers. I think that would help with the its popularity over here
Negan is a reference so definitely a 10/10 for any TWD fan
Zafina's is definitely a 10/10 if you get a finish with it. Same with Kunimitsu.
Same with yoshi
And Anna. I think all the DLCs have the best one because they had a lot of time to ace them.
Lee was one of my favorites, the beginning and ending was beautiful⚘
You mean it was E X E R R E N T
Seeing drives on block are almost the best part, seeing the opponent reeling like they dizzy is so much fun.
Maximilian when humans punch: "that's so uninspired"
Maximilian when characters punch while blue: "9 OUT OF TEN"
The coolest install ult ever would be the Kill Bill where you do the strike and if the fighter doesn't move the can keep fighting in place if they take 5 steps insta kill.
9:11 FALL PENIX
Like how Miguel’s is just, *beats you in Spanish*
"Twist your elbow a bit" DUDE NINA SNAPPED THEIR NECK WDYM
after seeing so much of T8 and how the models look like, NOW you can clearly see the differences in model detail, just look at King and you know what I mean, it's insane!
I say Kaz’s final devil form in story has the best super, and Akuma’s finishing animation for the raging demon in the secret boss is a close second
Tekken definitely is my favourite fighting series to play single player... the story modes and "adventure modes" are always super fun. I really wish more fighting game would do that.
I can't explain it, but something about this game's moves just hits. The violence in the way they just fucking smack eachother is really satisfying.
I know it's technically not a fighting game, but doing a Rate The Super on Project X Zone and Project X Zone 2 would be really neat.
Nina was doing a tri lick which has the shoulder choking around the neck in her case she does DMG to the neck abit
Tri lock*
Even though Bryan's Rage art is basically his four special moves combined...Crashing Elbow into Jet Upper into Mach Kick into Mach Punch...I really love it as all three moves after the starting elbow are so cool for me. Especially the jet upper. Coolest launcher for me in the game.
I’ve Mandela effected myself cause I was 100% convinced Kuma’s rage art played guitar music when he caught the fish
Should of been doing with the round ending attack, adds an extra scene at the end for each
I always wished Captain Falcon could’ve been a DLC. I need a Falcon mod immediately
I really feel like the relatively high speed of the Tekken supers contributed a lot to how they looked. The high speed looks really good on the ninja/samurai characters, because that's what they're supposed to be doing, while on slower characters, the difference in the speed of their attacks and their movement left some awkward pauses where they're just winding up something.
Some characters have supers with different thingies on KO, such as Akuma, Geese, Lee, etc
Calls those "thingies" Gimmicks
Not gimmicks, dialogues
My birthday became even better thanks to Max
Man, I knew King had Okada's Rainmaker as an alternate rage art but man... I did not know Lars had Tanahashi's Slingblade as an alternate complete with the pose at the end. I marked out tbh. Had not played Tekken in a long while.
Leroy's definitely my favourite, love the final one inch punch, so badass
I feel like its hard to judge the Rage Drives as much because they are not really Supers but have more in common with EX Moves, some of the better looking ones also require a lot more inputs to pull off than others and some of the short ones really work when in the moment as opposed to being looked at independently. Can definitely see the quality increase for the DLC rage arts though.
For me, it was the random slowdowns when characters would attack at the same time, the super moves slowing matches down, guest characters that didn't play by Tekken rules, bound in general (I didnt like it in 6 either), then the nee characters here. All of this combined is why I hung up Tekken 7 after like 6 months.
Finally it has come I’ve waited for years for this moment
If only max understood the Kazuchika Okada reference for the king super.
Anna be getting a 10/10 like always she da queen.
If you had a ps4 controller your controllers vibrations would be going crazy.
Glad I'm not the only person that was VERY underwhelmed by the majority of these moves when I first saw them. IMO they could have been WAY more creative with these.
all of the vanilla rage arts are mostly just their normal moveset, like bryan’s rage art is literally just b1, bf2, ff4, ff2
Negan taunts you If he kills u with his rage art
And geese gets a special Win screen If Win with his rage art
Funny that he rates Paul's Rage Drive just a tiny bit higher than the ones he says are "just a big punch", when not only is Paul's the same thing, but "Just a Big Punch" pretty much sums up the average Paul main's strategy
Most of nina's grabs are a series of limb breakers only for her rage to be one
I cannot get over how this game's menu scroll sound effect is the same as collecting gems in Yoshi's Woolly World
6:57 i dont think anyone has mentioned this already but if you fight against the robots theyll have a different damage effect
I do like how alot of dlc characters get extra animations on their rage arts if they KO with it, Geese and Ganryu's stand out the most to me
Even Geese's Super is underwhelming. Honestly, how could you screw over Geese Howard?
@@philithegamer8265 Mainly cause Harada has huge nostalgia boner for Fatal Fury and Rashamon used to be a big deal back then.
@@raionbomber75 Don't blame Harada. Geese is awesome so why give him a weaksauce rageart and super? That's oxymoronic.
17:14 I keep forgetting this guy is in the game and every time I’m reminded I have a little “wtf” moment
fun fact: Akuma’s rage art can’t be blocked in anyway the only way you can’t get hit by it is to be either be very far from him or jump at perfect time
i think we need a Rate the Super for SFxTK!!!
Vid got taken down just before the Murdock super happened x3. Super funny
I totally agree with you Maximilian Dood the most important character that you totally F-Word (Fucking) Love ❤️ into this Rage Art & Rage Drive Finale Super Moves was: Kunimitsu I think Kuni-san her Ninja Fighting Styles with the kodachi and primarily wields a tanto. Another Triva is Her Rage Art has her stabbing her opponent with her kodachi in a quick succession as both her knife and her kodachi are now embedded with both normal and blue flames and multiple slashes her opponent and deals a final strike to her opponent, dealing heavy damage. So that’s really cool she is a Familiar *foe* or “Rivalry” with Yoshimitsu but they have both connection with each other in the game that’s really awesome.
Funnily enough Nina's Rage art is kinda a legitimate wrestling move (Well, for televised wrestling at least not real wrestling) although she does it for WAY longer and doesn't do an arm bar.
@9:15 Paul can cancel after the first hit then combo for huge damage