4 things scanners won't do

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  • @NutsandBoltswithTone
    @NutsandBoltswithTone 2 місяці тому +10

    Great video Steve I love how you explained this. Now people will understand that mechanics do not have a magic computer that just tells us what it is gonna take to fix the vehicle.

    • @ToolDemos
      @ToolDemos  2 місяці тому +4

      Thanks Tony. I've noticed the 'magic computer' idea is very common. Hopefully people will give mechanics like you way more credit.

  • @Bizija123
    @Bizija123 22 дні тому +2

    Great video/tips. A note about the third misconception: It does not apply to some select brands like Mercedes Benz SCN as programming for the ecu can be done directly from scantool without needing the OE software. You'd still need a expensive scantool with a J2534 vci.

    • @ToolDemos
      @ToolDemos  21 день тому +1

      Thanks for pointing that out! I’m always learning.

  • @jaimedpcaus1
    @jaimedpcaus1 Місяць тому +1

    I dont know nor work on cars vut this video was great! Cool! Awesome review of the tools and best of all, of the knowledge to be a mechanic to fix things. You showed that the tools are great mostly if you are a mechanic and the tool will give you hints as to where the problem is but not fix it for you. Thank you for sharing!

    • @ToolDemos
      @ToolDemos  Місяць тому

      @@jaimedpcaus1 thanks for that. Much appreciated.

  • @mishahendriks3020
    @mishahendriks3020 2 місяці тому +3

    If you want to know how to use a scantool, look at the channels of e.g. Rainman Ray, or O’Rileys mobile mechanic. My favorites on YT. Almost never does the scantool tell what should be rectified, they use it to find readings (diagnose) which are different, and then solve the problem. Especially Jimmy (O’Riley) uses this very well when diagnosing DPF issues.

  • @donaldblank8873
    @donaldblank8873 2 місяці тому +4

    One thing you did not mention that you do need an upper end scan tool 4. That thing is to reset the timer in the ECU. Chrysler motors will go into limp mode. Which will keep you from driving your vehicle if it senses a problem that has persisted for too long of a time. Mechanics do not tell you this. They Immediately tell you you need very expensive parts even transmissions or engines. What needs to be done. When your vehicle it's stuck in second gear, Is to reset the timer in the ECU. And repair the next fault code that comes up or chase it down which could be as simple as low transmission fluid or a faulty speed sensor. So buying a high qualityl bi -directional scan tool is almost a must with ownership of newer vehicles. Otherwise you're throwing money away because mechanics are not going to be honest with you.

  • @John-yf4ie
    @John-yf4ie 2 місяці тому

    I purchased one of the more expensive Autel Scanners and could not detect 2 items stop/start battery issues and front or rear locker light. So I tried my friend Snap-on Apolo D9 and same issue. My Jeep Wrangler Rubicon was my first item to try and fix. Ended up replacing both batteries and this solved the problem. 2 issue- rear or front locker. Ended up buying Z bypass kit. This also solved the problem. I spoke to a friend that is shop foreman at a Jeep Dealership and problems such as these can only be found using factory equipment. Also he conneted their equipment and the system passed. We disconnected the bypass kit and found no problem with the lockers. His dealer usually drain and flushes out and debris!!! I admit, scanners have come a long way, but with all the new electronics most scanners are 1-2 years behind. Yanni

    • @ToolDemos
      @ToolDemos  2 місяці тому

      Exactly right. Great job solving your issues!

  • @WeeToddDidd
    @WeeToddDidd 2 місяці тому +6

    The cost of these new scanners is just too expensive for a guy who may actually need it a few times in their life. Plus subscription fees? then if you need to change a computer part you need another very expensive tool to program it to your car. The more computerized these cars become the less repairable to the average joe they become and the more they seem to break down. I kind of miss the older days of points , condenser and a strobe light to adjust timing.

  • @takishabaker7520
    @takishabaker7520 5 днів тому

    Which scan tool could pick up any electrical problems?

  • @grominwithrob1339
    @grominwithrob1339 Місяць тому +1

    Scan tools are just a tool that assists in diagnosing or can assist in confirming a diagnosis such as isolating a evap leak. I use the live data more than anything because it helps you trace down issues. Some vehicles have some overly generous sensor ranges so your vehicle drives like crap but no codes. The live data can show you the parameters the sensor is operating at, but you need to know what’s ideal and also what affects that sensors reading as well. Scan tools are not a magic bullet, but they sure as hell beat tracing wires for voltage ranges all day!😂😂😂😂

  • @nowayjose596
    @nowayjose596 2 місяці тому +3

    So what ended up being the actual mechanical issue that was causing low compression on that one cylinder? I'm wondering if the other bidders ended up being right to pass on it 🙃

    • @ToolDemos
      @ToolDemos  2 місяці тому +2

      @@nowayjose596 the exhaust follower on cylinder number six went bad and fell out. It also ruined that lobe of the camshaft. I had to replace the camshaft and that follower. The repair cost me less than $500.

  • @MrSamPhoenix
    @MrSamPhoenix 14 днів тому +1

    Great information man. Will you be reviewing the Thinkscan 689BT someday?

    • @ToolDemos
      @ToolDemos  13 днів тому +1

      Sure did! ua-cam.com/video/dijt6wqPwDs/v-deo.htmlsi=HW2bFgGDq0URoBNg

    • @MrSamPhoenix
      @MrSamPhoenix 13 днів тому

      @ Much appreciated man. And did they ever update the Bluetooth version to include the car battery voltage in the notification bar?

    • @ToolDemos
      @ToolDemos  12 днів тому +1

      @ no, I have the latest update, still no battery voltage display. It’s possible that the dongle doesn’t have the ability to measure it.

    • @MrSamPhoenix
      @MrSamPhoenix 12 днів тому

      @ Wow that sucks. Even simple wired scantools can do this. And I hope the Bluetooth dongle isn’t the reason the feature not being present. If it is, I hope Thinkcar can release an updated Bluetooth dongle for a fair price so we don’t have to worry about draining the battery while we work.

  • @CPthetooladdict
    @CPthetooladdict 2 місяці тому +1

    5:58 great information programming is definitely something that is very tricky.

    • @ToolDemos
      @ToolDemos  2 місяці тому +1

      @@CPthetooladdict thanks CP. cheers!

  • @holeshot1721
    @holeshot1721 22 дні тому

    Air bags! Forscan fords vin numbers on all there parts! Chevy body control module (bcm) also vin etched car/truck part!

  • @javiermarrero4229
    @javiermarrero4229 2 місяці тому +1

    Saludos Steve 👍

    • @ToolDemos
      @ToolDemos  2 місяці тому

      Hi Javier, glad you’re here.

  • @didierlacoste5914
    @didierlacoste5914 Місяць тому

    Hi Steve , i'm new to scan tools and non professional user, we're only a few of Infiniti owners here in France and especially in Paris. Within 4 years i've only seen 3 cars like my FX30DS/QX70DS , i have to fix a non working interior lighting system after a battery replacement, may i ask you an advice on what ScanTool device i should purchase ? thanks , didier (derek)

    • @ToolDemos
      @ToolDemos  Місяць тому

      @@didierlacoste5914 Hi Didier. Launch makes a Nissan / Infinity specific, full-function scanner. It has lifetime updates and is very inexpensive. Here’s the USA Amazon link: amzn.to/4hV4lRp
      If you want a scanner that can handle all cars, ThinkCar is my favorite Do-It-Yourself scanner for all makes. Here’s my review of it: This is the scanner we've been waiting for.
      ua-cam.com/video/dijt6wqPwDs/v-deo.html

  • @RobertYonng
    @RobertYonng 2 місяці тому +2

    Scan tools tell you where to look then use basics to find the actual source. 👍

  • @michealcannizzo100
    @michealcannizzo100 2 місяці тому

    What might be difference between the pro ace 3 vs the pro 3s+?

    • @ToolDemos
      @ToolDemos  2 місяці тому +1

      @@michealcannizzo100 The biggest difference is that the pro3 Ace is newer and has the new DBSCar VII connector. That will allow you to communicate on CAN FD networks and do DolP sessions online.

    • @michealcannizzo100
      @michealcannizzo100 2 місяці тому

      @@ToolDemos thanks for the reply

  • @jeffhill3681
    @jeffhill3681 29 днів тому

    One of my biggest problems today is that all information is organized by code. No codes, no diagnostic tree.
    Usually I know what the problem is, but not why the computer is reacting improperly to the inputs. I usually spend hours reading and searching for information on how a program makes decisions and how systems work and mostly not finding anything useful.
    My biggest problem is what I know gets in the way of learning that it doesn't work that way anymore or on this particular system. Everything today seems backwards of what it used to be.

    • @ToolDemos
      @ToolDemos  29 днів тому

      You’re right. A lot of programming seems irrational when inputs are out of range. I have noticed though, that the latest cars are much better at identifying the probable cause than they used to be.

    • @jeffhill3681
      @jeffhill3681 28 днів тому

      @ToolDemos
      Actually, I'm referring to in range issues. Most common is the computer reacting opposite of expected response. Finding what overrides expected response is difficult. Example is O2 rich and computer reacting by adding up to max fuel. Some programs appear to disregard O2 input after other conditions are seen, even if not currently existing.

    • @ToolDemos
      @ToolDemos  28 днів тому

      @@jeffhill3681 oh, I see. So, the PCM would rank one input higher than another and add fuel, even when O2s are screaming not to. Very interesting, haven’t seen that yet. I can imagine how frustrating that is.

  • @ryanshaw3268
    @ryanshaw3268 2 місяці тому

    Hi I'm new to your channel. Just happen to stumble upon it whilst scrolling UA-cam for some answer about my own car issue. Any advice or knowledge you can give me would be much appreciated help. I have a 2011 mercedes c class 2.1 diesel auto. My engine management light sometimes comes on and with my cheap crappy little diagnostic scanner it tells me there is a high performance can bus issue. Now and again it will also say lost communication with the tcu. It drives absolutely fine but when this light comes on it can cause my gear changes to go awful. I can clear the gearbox tcu fault and drive the car fine again but it will not let me clear the can bus issue. It's a permanent fault code. Is there a way the canbus could be causing this issue? Is my 1st question. Or do I have 2 faults? 2nd is there a cheap way I can find and scan or check the can bus? Thanks in advance if your willing to help me out 👍🏻

    • @ToolDemos
      @ToolDemos  2 місяці тому

      In most cases, CAN communication issues result from a bad connection in the network wires. Usually corrosion in a connector, or a broken wire. Unfortunately, the only way to visually see the activity on those wires is by using an oscilloscope. You’ll find two wires for these networks, they’ll each vary the voltage by one volt very quickly.
      An example would be one wire will switch from 2.5 to 1.5 volts and the other will switch from 2.5 to 3.5 volts. These oscillations will be hundreds of times per second. Not typically a DIY diagnosis, but that’s up to you.

  • @cryptkeeper420tv8
    @cryptkeeper420tv8 2 місяці тому

    What about a snap on scanner or top don

    • @ToolDemos
      @ToolDemos  2 місяці тому

      Topdon is very similar to Launch. Snap On does have some unique abilities.

    • @wendellgreenidge3362
      @wendellgreenidge3362 16 днів тому

      @@ToolDemostop don is a rebranded launch

  • @billseay6399
    @billseay6399 2 місяці тому

    Hey thanks Love the video

    • @ToolDemos
      @ToolDemos  2 місяці тому

      Glad you enjoyed it, cheers!

  • @JacksAutoDiagnostics
    @JacksAutoDiagnostics 2 місяці тому +12

    Your Video is misleading. I have a Launch scanner which is currently around $589. It does a lot if you know how to read the data. It does program, if you are talking about configuration programming. I replaced many ABS modules and the Launch copies conf from old module and to the new module. And it was a used module.
    The Launch will aso do the initial configuration on transmissions and hvac module. Resets on other modules.
    So my Launch can do programming, it just doesn't do flash updates or flash programming on brand new modules. If you have transmission rebuilt and they use the same TCM built into the transmission, you won't need any programming. if you replace a transmission with a brand new transmission from GM, that will have ro be flash programed and the scanner will not do this part. But you can rent a RAP from Dorman and program it. RAP remote access programming.
    So a scanner does programming and configuration or setup, but doesn't do flash programming.
    Im sure it you have a relative compression issue that is a real compression problem, you would eventually see a code. But since you had no codes, this does not mean the scan tool won't tell you what's wrong or which cylinder is misfiring. There is also mode 6 you can see misfires and also Launch shows you cylinder balance which is a graph and the lines drop low on the cylinders which are not contributing. Code or not the scanner works! Besides, setting codes is part of the diagnostic software of the module, not the scan tool. Has nothing todo with the scanner!
    You also need to understand long term and short term fuel trims. This can tell you if you have vacuum leak, or the engine is running rich or lean, and which bank or cylinders are affected. Fuel trims can also point you to a bad A/F or O2 sensor. Which you can view the O2 sensor voltages too and graph them.
    Now the PCM will not set a code if the ECT sensor is reading in range. If the range is -40F to 285F. If you unplug the ECT or have a broken wire or bad connection somewhere, it will read -40F which is in range and may not set a code, it's in range and doesn't know rhe wire is broken. But you know by looking at the PID, so the scanner does diagnose this problem!
    Did you know that -40F is the same as -40 celcius.
    If you have an engine running slightly rich and no code set, you can also view the MAF sensor reading to see if your MAF is over reporting the amount of air going into the engine. The scanner does this, so just because it don't show a MAF sensor code does not mean the scanner can't do this.
    What aftermarket scanners do not do is everything. No scanner can do everything on all car. Only the factory scan tools which only work on certain makes and certain models can do almost everything.
    Most scanners don't come with a scope, but I never used a scope and I fixes every car I came in contanct with 100% diagnosed guaranteed. In the past 15 years at least. Now there were times I wish I had a scope, but it wasn't absolutely necessary. Most scan tools don't do this.
    There are limitations with all scan tools, but to claim it don't work on this or that because you can't translate the data, doesn't mean it's not working. It's working!

    • @mcplutt
      @mcplutt 2 місяці тому +1

      What Launch scanner do you have?

    • @ToolDemos
      @ToolDemos  2 місяці тому +2

      I think you and I agree on everything we just have different ways of expressing that.

    • @JacksAutoDiagnostics
      @JacksAutoDiagnostics 2 місяці тому

      @@mcplutt It's about 3 years old, Launch x431 Pros mini. It's small and sucks really, but still works. They have 10 inch screen scanners on sale ever so often for around $912.
      I've used the Snap-on scanners and they not any better. The latest Zeus+ is also a $100 per month subscription if you want updates and everything to work. Ridiculously priced and more often than not I had to grab the Launch.

    • @Bizija123
      @Bizija123 22 дні тому

      You're talking about coding, not firmware programming. Some scantools can do VIN matching on a module without needing the J-box.

  • @Sral-v1z
    @Sral-v1z 2 місяці тому

    Scanners do very... yet there is scanners or aka obd2 diagnostic tool.. My maximums 4.0 and 5.0 scanners work great and I never had problems with reading codes even on cars or HD trucks or motorcycles that both scanners can do.

  • @f.k.b.16
    @f.k.b.16 2 місяці тому

    Are there ones will do air bags?

    • @xXCigarXx
      @xXCigarXx 2 місяці тому

      Yes,some will do air bag function tests and such.

    • @ToolDemos
      @ToolDemos  2 місяці тому

      Both of the scanners I used in this video will do airbag.

    • @radarman2000
      @radarman2000 2 місяці тому +1

      what do yo mean by "do airbags". yes they can read airbag codes?, but if the airbags have deployed, you cannot replace the bags then reset the airbag computer. that needs to be replaced or reprogrammed along with replacing the seatbelts. if you just have a faulty sensor, replacing the sensor and clearing the codes work

    • @ToolDemos
      @ToolDemos  2 місяці тому

      @@radarman2000 right. It will read codes, read data, and clear codes.

  • @ORRadtech
    @ORRadtech 2 місяці тому +3

    This might be helpful for a beginner diy person. But, by the time a diy'er is ready to spend $500 + on a scan tool they're aware of their limitations and are simply looking for more information or functionality.

    • @052RC
      @052RC 2 місяці тому

      How do you bypass your O2 sensors for diagnostic purposes?

    • @ToolDemos
      @ToolDemos  2 місяці тому

      @052RC I put my foot to the floor on the test drive. It puts the car in open-loop.

    • @ToolDemos
      @ToolDemos  2 місяці тому

      I agree that a lot of DIYers are aware of their own limitations, but I thought it was useful to make them aware of scan tools’ limitations.

  • @Swenser
    @Swenser 2 місяці тому

    Can anybody recommend a good website that goes through scan tool use. The menus, tests, expected bad and good results, tips and tricks, what values means etc...

    • @ToolDemos
      @ToolDemos  2 місяці тому

      The best channel on UA-cam for diagnostic basics is @scannerdanner

    • @mikeburchett-bs3qw
      @mikeburchett-bs3qw Місяць тому

      this is little late but scanner danner is one of the best

  • @keysautorepair6038
    @keysautorepair6038 2 місяці тому

    I get that every day people are like just hook it up to the scanner lol.

    • @ToolDemos
      @ToolDemos  2 місяці тому

      Very common misconception.

  • @SaerTurner-wn2qh
    @SaerTurner-wn2qh 2 місяці тому +1

    the Actually the Launch X431s can all do modal programing and matching and also copy and past for 62% of vehicles on the Scan tool so do better home work I use mine for Programing reprograming flashing on ford BMW VW Jaguar Landrover Benz Toyota Honda and some GM products and so many other manufactures there are only 5 manufactures whose software is not open source now you can not do every care but many scantools do allow you to do Programing on a very wide Variety of Cars and trucks .......but the nice thing is the upper end units like my Launch torque pro or china Version padV with the Jbox opens up a massive world and also thanks to emot diagnostics you can program any Vehicle wit the Scantool through Remote diagnostic's it may cost you a bit more than buying a one time use licence for 40-100 bucks but at leas you do not need to have any additional hardware or have to learn how to use oem software's some one on teh other end connect to your tablet and does the programing for you so YES with Units that come with a J-box you can program any Car off teh tablet

  • @steak007
    @steak007 Місяць тому +1

    You are 100 % wrong about the PCM programming. For an average guy they wouldn't know the right source and how to trick the unit, if you are very familiar with backdoor entry, you will be able to reprogram the unit.

  • @Howardtripper
    @Howardtripper 2 місяці тому +1

    You buy the tool for where you at as you grow so you move up the line of scan tools you don't buy the heavy artillery and never use most of it it's simply a waste of money which you will never get back

  • @strikeryachts
    @strikeryachts 8 днів тому

    eSCAN ELITE, Mode 6

  • @RobertYonng
    @RobertYonng 2 місяці тому

    Kingbolen is made by launch

    • @ToolDemos
      @ToolDemos  2 місяці тому

      Yeah, it is. I think they call it white labeling.

  • @johnperez93640
    @johnperez93640 2 місяці тому

    Every experienced mechanic knows that scanners dont tell u what the problem is. U have to know what the scanner is telling u and then know what to do with that info.

    • @ToolDemos
      @ToolDemos  2 місяці тому

      💯

    • @jim_gmail-ml4ie
      @jim_gmail-ml4ie 2 місяці тому

      @@ToolDemos I see a red mark but I can not make out what it is.

  • @KurkkeananKlein
    @KurkkeananKlein 13 днів тому

    Scanner wont attempt a fail in changing a oiil filter😂

  • @markhuyette8509
    @markhuyette8509 2 місяці тому

    You forgot number five it can not reset readiness monitors that are not set that you have to do a complete drive cycle 😂😂

    • @gadasavideos8564
      @gadasavideos8564 2 місяці тому

      It actually resets the monitors to not ready when you clear codes. Obviously it can say they are ready , only a drive cycle can do that. Otherwise it would defeat emissions testing. Although that might actually work on a vw computer and scanner lol.

  • @jrcll7856
    @jrcll7856 Місяць тому

    but you did use the scanner to help you

    • @ToolDemos
      @ToolDemos  Місяць тому

      Absolutely. Couldn’t diagnose much of anything without it.

  • @ExtinctInsanity
    @ExtinctInsanity 18 днів тому

    Lmao The Launch can do all functions AFTER you pay $40-$100 per function per car...

    • @ToolDemos
      @ToolDemos  17 днів тому

      Strange, I've never experienced that.

    • @brassmule
      @brassmule 17 днів тому

      Not sure which scan tool you're talking about but it's not that one. I do recall there being some low end tools which allow you to pay per brand, however. Launch may very well make one.

  • @KurkkeananKlein
    @KurkkeananKlein 13 днів тому

    You wamt courant buy a bunch of selenoid 😂

  • @CROFTY71
    @CROFTY71 21 день тому

    You don't need a subscription to program

  • @duscott1
    @duscott1 2 місяці тому +6

    Don't be a parts changer like this guy he doesn't understand what he's talking about either

    • @arnedegryse4566
      @arnedegryse4566 Місяць тому

      indeed 😅

    • @arnedegryse4566
      @arnedegryse4566 Місяць тому +1

      As a workshop manager in a Bosch car service, I can say that a lot of information on UA-cam is incorrect.

  • @francoisoosthuizen6663
    @francoisoosthuizen6663 4 дні тому

    Mmmmmm.......very disappointed with my Launch not being able to do what it is said to be able to do. Software issues. Stay away