DID IT SUCK? - Doctor Who [SERIES 10 FINALE MEGA REVIEW]

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  • @rajabuta
    @rajabuta 6 років тому +793

    from someone who didn't follow any promotional trailers or news, the master unmasking was awesome

    • @thestargateking
      @thestargateking 6 років тому +14

      rajabuta I knew the master was coming but I only realised it was him after he said that he wouldn't kill himself or something

    • @estefanolivares4159
      @estefanolivares4159 6 років тому +19

      I didn't know until the reveal either. That was great

    • @albertschoise8091
      @albertschoise8091 6 років тому

      rajabuta to me as well

    • @WiloPolis03
      @WiloPolis03 5 років тому +16

      That entire episode was well done as a whole, from the Master reveal, to the terrifying PAIN scene, them actually making the Cybermen compelling... It was so so good

    • @rinse-esnir4010
      @rinse-esnir4010 5 років тому +3

      Yes it was splendid. Of all the screen ups the doctor has made, this surely is one of his biggest. Starting with the silly Idea of testing Missy and ending with getting his companion killed and turned into a cyberman, being forced into a regeneration of himself, etc...

  • @aaajjj5162
    @aaajjj5162 6 років тому +566

    Am I the only one who knew that John Simm was coming but didn't relies that one guy was him. I mean its obvious now but at the time I didn't think about it.

    • @morningcoffeecat2271
      @morningcoffeecat2271 6 років тому +11

      AJ Wethington I was the same

    • @niall7087
      @niall7087 6 років тому +26

      AJ Wethington I only realised like 20 seconds before he revealed himself

    • @NiallByrne
      @NiallByrne 6 років тому +4

      Same didn’t realise it.

    • @NoverMaC
      @NoverMaC 6 років тому +2

      same

    • @odinoldman1324
      @odinoldman1324 6 років тому +1

      If i wanted to kill my self i'd climb your chromosomes and jump to your IQ.....

  • @Deathlygunn
    @Deathlygunn 6 років тому +569

    One thing worth noting, The Doctor Falls was originally the last episode for both Capaldi and Moffat, with the Doctor set to regenerate unconscious in the TARDIS after his battle with the Cybermen. However Chibnall refused to start his tenure with a Christmas Special, so Moffat was forced to do a last minute rewrite so both The Doctor and Bill were alive for Twice Upon a Time. It's a shame really as I think without having to use the last ten/fifteen minutes to set up how these characters survive and instead using them to flesh out the stakes and threat of the Cybermen, then this could have been an excellent send off for Moffat and Twelve.

    • @ojwh1933
      @ojwh1933 6 років тому +3

      Where did you find that out?

    • @angianyi
      @angianyi 6 років тому +10

      Well that would better fit the title of ‘the doctor falls’

    • @TyWillCFC
      @TyWillCFC 6 років тому +88

      Wow Chibnall's a pussy

    • @WordsofIvory
      @WordsofIvory 6 років тому +5

      [citation needed]

    • @plasticnoodles9678
      @plasticnoodles9678 6 років тому +5

      Chibby...

  • @atlasingent4863
    @atlasingent4863 6 років тому +131

    For the record: I didn't realise Razor was the Master until he actually took the mask off at the end of the episode. And I knew he starred in it, as well.

  • @dalekbumps
    @dalekbumps 6 років тому +587

    I think you've completely missed the point of the scene where Twelve explains his reasoning to the Master and Missy. He understands how futile his efforts are but he can't bring himself to run away. Both of them listen to him, that's plainly obvious from their faces, the Master only says he doesn't because that's the kind of person he is. Missy is even crying, showing she does care. It's the turning point of the character, from then on she wants to help, she doesn't change her mind later on, she was deceiving Simm's incarnation. It's pretty obvious if you think about it.

    • @LadyDoomsinger
      @LadyDoomsinger 4 роки тому +27

      I don't think she was outright deceiving him; rather she seemed conflicted and undecided, and at the last minute decides to go back to help The Doctor. Though that's just how it seemed to me.
      It was never explicitly stated one way or the other, so either interpretation is fine I guess.

    • @GiubileiFernando
      @GiubileiFernando 4 роки тому +23

      He missed the point about the whole episode. He was too distracted with his political agenda to realize that he contradicts himself.

    • @Enel97
      @Enel97 4 роки тому +6

      @@GiubileiFernando and what is his agenda?

    • @yalieyal4362
      @yalieyal4362 Рік тому +3

      @@GiubileiFernando i agree with the fact he missed the point of the doctor falls, but what do you mean political agenda?

    • @GiubileiFernando
      @GiubileiFernando Рік тому +2

      @@yalieyal4362 20:15 "If I was in Canada I could potentially be arrested for what I said" referring to Bill C-16. the one that famously launched Jordan B Peterson insto stardom when he made a public tantrum opposing it and making a bunch of bullshit claims that were proven wrong by time.

  • @daybreakrebornedits
    @daybreakrebornedits 4 роки тому +193

    The fact that you complained about Capaldi's magnificent "Where I Stand" speech more than you complimented it is borderline unforgivable, tbh. The single best piece of dialogue in the entire season and once again you just snarked all over the mic in typical fashion.

    • @daybreakrebornedits
      @daybreakrebornedits 2 роки тому +19

      @Cambell Smith which is exactly why I stopped watching him as I didn't want that style an energy in my playlist. Respect to him as a content creator but I only just saw this message.

  • @OuterWildsAstronomer
    @OuterWildsAstronomer 6 років тому +87

    I'm sorry but when he explained to Master and Missy why he was doing it was my favorite part. The fact that he was willing to die for a small group of people (who you're right- we didn't even know) because its the kind thing to do. That really got me. Thats the doctor we love.

  • @reagantao3436
    @reagantao3436 6 років тому +427

    Ok, I really enjoyed this...until 18:00 where I really think you either didn't understand the rationale of the Doctor Falls or just ignored it. The Doctor's speech was not "vague and amabiguous" it was blunt and assertive. He does what he does for the little people, whether it be saving the universe from a Dalek invasion or saving the lives of a few helpless villagers. It's an idealistic hopeless goal due to his circumstances, but he persists because it's the right thing to do. THAT is the point. The Masters didn't listen? Really? Were we watching the same episode because Simm's Master was looking down in barely suppressed emotion in one very pointed shot and Missy was fighting down tears the whole time. Two sides of the same coin, the Master is the callous world conquering asshole and Missy is the closest remnant of that old childhood friend who ran with the Doctor under the red skies of Gallifrey. The fact that she took the Doctor's hand yet rejects it for her own sake is a Classic Master move, one that prioritises self preservation over the hope that the Doctor would see things his/her way. Missy is the most amiable incarnation f the Master to date and half her plans involve converting the Doctor so considering that the original Delgado Master was set to sacrifice himself for the sake of the Doctor with almost no buildup, isn't it somewhat plausible that when faced with the possibility that the Doctor could be facing his final end, this incarnation would stand by him especially after he spent years trying to change her? The turning point comes at the scene when the Masters are escaping from the Cyberman where she sees an explosion, billowing the smoke she used to love seeing "pretty shapes" in and TURNS AWAY. Symbolically, this was executed flawlessly by Gomez as she betrays a distinct lack of interest in the chaos she once loved. No, Missy didn't turn good nor was the buildup in prior episodes well done, hence why I share your view that the beginning shoehorned it in. That doesn't change the fact that Missy stabbing the Master is one of the most pivotal moments in the Master's entire history as is Simm shooting her in the back. The worst and (relatively) best aspects of the Master exist in these two incarnations. Missy "miss[es]" being able to burn and hear the carnage she once wrought throughout the universe but kills her past self as a means of moving on and being at least partially the same person she once was. The answer to whether the Master could ever be good is not no, it is maybe. Missy still didn't care about the Mondasians (then again, neither did we) but she was moved by the Doctor's speech because of how utterly open it was and how it's possibly their most honest exchange since the days of Delgado. The development of Missy's arc was awful, but the denouement was flawless and their struggle, though merely the end point of a weak arc, was easily an amazing high. This all comes from someone who absolutely loathed the Doctor Falls so yeah, I think that most of your assertions are logical but your points regarding the Masters and the Doctor's speech in kindness almost seem liked they were written by a different person: someone who walked out of the room and founded these presumptions on a wikipedia summary.

    • @johnoneill5884
      @johnoneill5884 5 років тому +18

      Reagan Tao Now, I'd prefer if you did a video like this instead of this other eejit. Top comment, have you got a UA-cam channel?

    • @adamh2077
      @adamh2077 5 років тому +3

      John O'Neill 'your just jealous you cant make content like this so your not allowed to have opinions fuck u'

    • @adamh2077
      @adamh2077 5 років тому

      @@cadefoster500 I'm telling john how he sounds like a 10 year old

    • @adamh2077
      @adamh2077 5 років тому +2

      oh lmfao sry I had 0 idea what eejit meant. took me a google search lol!

    • @xMrDesmond
      @xMrDesmond 5 років тому +7

      they should make a reaction video about this commentar, because its really good and has a better few on doctor who then
      Harry's Moving Castle
      but there kind of right with the ending. sunddely this weird warter gril.... yeahh
      but again, the last thing with the tardis is more subjective. we know it has like a kind of mind and its kind of living and we know from earlyer episodes, that the tardis brings him to place he should be kind of..... refernzen to that weird episode in wich the tardis has a body....

  • @rishundola9526
    @rishundola9526 6 років тому +47

    You may have missed the point of the “because its kind” speech. For the Doctor who saves Sarah Janes son he doesnt even know from getting hit by a car or the whole of time and reality for the same reason. For him, at least at times, are kind of the same on an existential level.

  • @thestargateking
    @thestargateking 6 років тому +76

    For me I only realised that the guy was the master when he started to talk to missy, I knew the master was coming but for me the make up and the accent was enough that I couldn't tell

  • @jefferyjones8399
    @jefferyjones8399 6 років тому +167

    I thought series 10 was a pretty solid series overall. There were a few clunkers but nothing awful. I quite enjoyed the finale especially.

    • @williansouza8724
      @williansouza8724 Рік тому

      series 10 was okay. didn't have brilliant episodes aside from the finale, it had a few interesting and the rest was very mediocre, but as far as i remember, nothing absurdly ridiculous.

    • @HOTD108_
      @HOTD108_ 7 місяців тому +1

      Series 10 is good up until Twice Upon A Time, which is one of the worst episodes in the show's history. It's like eating a really nice pint of ice cream but then you find a dead animal at the bottom.

  • @jezz2k
    @jezz2k 6 років тому +86

    Technically they are not Cybus Cybermen, since they evolved from the Mondasian Cybermen in the "proper" universe, and had nothing to do with Cybus Industries.

    • @ZakJordan98
      @ZakJordan98 6 років тому +15

      jezz2k Doesn't matter, it's still the same design, the "DELETE! UPGRADE! STOMP! STOMP! STOMP!" variants

    • @albertschoise8091
      @albertschoise8091 6 років тому +7

      Zak Rosenfeld are there other purposes for the Cybermen?

    • @TheSmart-CasualGamer
      @TheSmart-CasualGamer 4 роки тому +6

      @@ZakJordan98 And that's how I like them. Angry, stompy Cybermen who can't remember how to be coy, and just want to "get shit done."

    • @SirDankleberry
      @SirDankleberry 4 роки тому +3

      Zak Rosenfeld Do expect them to sneak?

    • @marinettedorien8236
      @marinettedorien8236 3 роки тому

      Yeah they are more like the seventh legion cybermen

  • @tayetrotman
    @tayetrotman 6 років тому +51

    The John Simm reveal actually worked for me because I managed to avoid all trailers and spoilers, it was so shocking!

    • @marinettedorien8236
      @marinettedorien8236 3 роки тому +2

      I knew John was gonna be in it but he was so convincing I didn’t even realise it was him. I only did when I was trying to work out his accent,. Then realised ‘why would he have a non British accent when all the other shipmates were British, even if his ancestors weren’t British he would have the same accent as the other people at the bottom of the ship’ and then realised it was someone in desguise

    • @CatnipMasterRace
      @CatnipMasterRace 3 роки тому

      You even avoided the next time trailers at the end of the previous episodes?

    • @tayetrotman
      @tayetrotman 3 роки тому

      @@CatnipMasterRace Yh I never watched them

    • @mattthesilent777RED
      @mattthesilent777RED Рік тому

      I didn't even know he was the master because Series 10 airing was when I actually began watching Doctor Who on TV... but then somebody had to ruin it!

    • @tayetrotman
      @tayetrotman Рік тому

      @@mattthesilent777RED Ah, I grew up with it

  • @britanimations2002
    @britanimations2002 5 років тому +92

    I see why you have slight issues with part two, kinda, you hate a lot of new who and are very negative but I can at least see where you are coming from.
    I do however think you may have overlooked somethings in the second part. For example the whole point was the Doctor couldn't save the day, all he could do was stop the Cybermen on the floor he was on, the others would have to prepare for them and take it from there, I just think you made a point about how this doesn't solve the problem, well yeh, that's the point of the story. Isn't it just nice to have a situation where we can't actually win? No Rose's coming to save the day, no Doctor Donna nothing, gives weight to the story and threat knowing not even the Doctor can hold it back permanently.

  • @Willy-uk9tr
    @Willy-uk9tr 4 роки тому +278

    Great episodes Harry gave a 4/10
    . School Reunion
    . Heaven Sent
    . The Doctor Falls

    • @GiubileiFernando
      @GiubileiFernando 4 роки тому +35

      He gave School Reunion a 4/10?!

    • @piplup2009
      @piplup2009 4 роки тому +106

      He gave Heaven fucking sent a 10/10 episode a 4/10?

    • @EmTom44
      @EmTom44 4 роки тому +50

      piplup2009 yup, then Hell Bent 9/10, which I do believe that hell Bent gets a bit too much hate and is slightly underrated but I would give it higher than a 6

    • @meathir4921
      @meathir4921 4 роки тому +18

      I know he doesn’t like monster of the week episodes but two of those are the best ones in all of New Who.

    • @TempoKong
      @TempoKong 4 роки тому +6

      School Reunion deserves it to be fair

  • @conormcgrath4063
    @conormcgrath4063 6 років тому +85

    wouldn't it have been much better if the cybermen came in waves. Like the mondas cybermen attack as the cybermen develop lower down, hours pass and now it's the cybus cybermen, a few minutes and now it's the s8 cybermen, adding to the urgency as the cybermen develop to be stronger, faster than the doctor can handle.

    • @jackburns6403
      @jackburns6403 5 років тому +6

      It would have been nice for some other classic cybermen to appear too

    • @jmurray1110
      @jmurray1110 3 роки тому +1

      As a couple tomb and invasions cybermen to bridge the gap give there are at about 5 main cybermen core designs

  • @rishundola9526
    @rishundola9526 6 років тому +33

    I think the whole point of the lead up to the “big battle against the cybermen” wasnt to raise the stakes and set up something epic. I believe the whole point was to illustrate the complete dispair of the situation and how hopeless it is. The script and the blue colour scheme examplify this.

  • @irrevenant3
    @irrevenant3 6 років тому +46

    Good points, almost 100% agreement. Have to point out though that:
    1. The Doctor explained why taking a last stand was the only real option: Because of the time dilation, trying to flee upwards would just give the Cybermen more time to evolve and they would be overrun before they could get there.
    2. Actually, Missy *did* listen to the Doctor. The answer to "can she turn good?" was *yes* - she just got shot in the back before she could act on it.

  • @samuelbarber4154
    @samuelbarber4154 4 роки тому +17

    I would've preferred it if he'd regenerated at the end of this one, so we had a Christmas episode to get to know Whittaker.

    • @marinettedorien8236
      @marinettedorien8236 3 роки тому +8

      That’s what Moffat planned but Chibnal refused, so in a shot period of time Moffat made twice upon a time so that dr who could keep the slot, which was kinda useless since the year after they lost the slot

    • @Zug8415
      @Zug8415 3 роки тому +4

      Chibnall is an absolute knob. And to be honest, I get that not everyone likes it, but I love twice upon a time. It’s a beautiful ending to capaldi and I view it as an end to the whole show, because the timeless child is a fucking disgrace

    • @edadankmemes
      @edadankmemes 2 роки тому +1

      sounds about right, given how much Chibbs seems to despise Christmas.

  • @batlikinan3229
    @batlikinan3229 6 років тому +274

    i find your doctor who reviews pretty funny and you have some good points, but honestly, I don't understand what you want?? sometimes I get it. but sometimes you just complain a lot.

    • @hardfugoo1
      @hardfugoo1 6 років тому +17

      Anna Mac nailed it

    • @joshbottomley5327
      @joshbottomley5327 6 років тому +19

      Anna Mac no more bs political agendas and good stories, how about that?

    • @reagantao3436
      @reagantao3436 6 років тому +43

      Clearly not considering he hated Heaven Sent. And the witch's familiar. And pretty much every other good episode in Doctor Who...

    • @desperatemohammedantheworl5833
      @desperatemohammedantheworl5833 5 років тому +37

      His reviews are often annoying, especially when he makes mistakes or wrong assumptions because he obviously doesn't know very much about "Classic" Who such as complaining about CyberBill's voice.

    • @Benanimate
      @Benanimate 5 років тому +2

      I think it's pretty obvious what he wants.

  • @darkjaden-fe
    @darkjaden-fe 5 років тому +12

    The John Simm master reveal actually threw me for a loop because I hadn't actually seen any of the news. It was honestly a really satisfying experience lol

  • @alexmidyett7749
    @alexmidyett7749 5 років тому +15

    About the John Simm reveal, I had no idea it was coming and it was INCREDIBLE

  • @trifsith
    @trifsith 6 років тому +54

    Ok, but WHY did the blue guy shoot bill in the first place?!?
    He knew the patients just wanted "the human" and didn't care about him. So what the hell was he so worried about, hm?

    • @niall7087
      @niall7087 6 років тому +4

      TriF Sith plot convenience

    • @TheSmart-CasualGamer
      @TheSmart-CasualGamer 5 років тому +9

      He thought if she died, they wouldn't kill him for no real reason. They didn't anyway, so there wasn't much of a point to it.

    • @DiscoTimelordASD
      @DiscoTimelordASD 4 роки тому +2

      It's easy to use the stereotypical "scared person who just kills from fear" character to accelerate a plot.

    • @TheSmart-CasualGamer
      @TheSmart-CasualGamer 4 роки тому +1

      ​@RED Engineer As he should be.
      StAaand. Awaaayeh.

  • @spacepenguins8939
    @spacepenguins8939 6 років тому +48

    What did bill and the doctor actually achieve this season Without the doctors influence Bill would have become a puddle person but due to his influence and Bill coming along
    •The Doctor died
    •Missy died
    •The Master died
    •Nardole will probably die eventually
    •Bills a puddle person
    So because bill came along everyone we loved dies.... thanks bill?

  • @BabPenguin
    @BabPenguin 6 років тому +313

    Harry logic:
    Hell Bent: 9/10
    The doctor falls: 4/10
    Lols
    One month later I've fixed the score haha.

  • @LibraGamesUnlimited
    @LibraGamesUnlimited 6 років тому +30

    I read, somewhere, that Mofitt said that he felt the Companions should never die, which is why he pulls this crap and undoes their deaths or whatever. My whole thing is, if you want to say that fine, but don't kill them off, then undo it in some really stupid way just to keep them from actually dying.

    • @rkah6187
      @rkah6187 4 роки тому +3

      Yeah, what's wrong with amicably parting with a companion who then goes on and lives his/her life? Like with Martha Jones

    • @LibraGamesUnlimited
      @LibraGamesUnlimited 4 роки тому +10

      @@rkah6187 Nothing but if you're not going to kill companions then you to stop killing them only to 'magically' bring them back in the next episode.
      He was trying to have his cake and eat it too teasing us with a tragic death, trying to elicit the emotions of that, then undoing it.
      You CAN get away with that once, but once it becomes a pattern it's just cheap.
      I DO prefer companions to come away from their time in the TARDIS better off and go on to do good work on their own, in their own way.

    • @rkah6187
      @rkah6187 4 роки тому +1

      @@LibraGamesUnlimited Yes, exactly! Could not have said it better myself.

    • @LibraGamesUnlimited
      @LibraGamesUnlimited 4 роки тому +4

      @@rkah6187 Thank you. You think he would understand that you can't do that kind of thing more than once, maybe twice, and get away with it.

  • @TheSleepiestPlurals
    @TheSleepiestPlurals 5 років тому +11

    nah. I watched these episodes like last night, and I hadn't followed any of the social media stuff, so I was genuinely surprised by those twists. I came to the slow realization that these were actually cybermen, and the moment the surgeon guy says "oh the pain? We have something for that now," and takes out the cyberman headpiece I was like OH MY GOD I WAS RIGHT HOLY SHIT and that was really exciting, just all the hints slowly clicking together.
    I also had no idea the guy that played The Master was coming back, and I didn't see it coming at all. I was fucking dumbfounded when I saw him. So, as far as those twists go, they work really well if it wasn't for everything having been teased and revealed so prominently before.
    I also like the stuff with Missy. I don't know why you don't understand her transformation. She clearly listened to the Doctor's little speech and was affected by it, just look at her reaction! She had been at a crisis of character the entire episode, there was some clear inner turmoil going on. As to her not seeing the betrayal coming... they say this every fucking time there's a crossover like this. When a timelord is sharing a timeline with an earlier regeneration, their memories get fucked up, Missy herself said that pretty sure. She just remembered bits and pieces of what happened. She didn't remember having been on the ship at all until The Master told her.
    The only thing I didn't like about these episodes is how they showed all the different evolutions of cybermen. That really took me out of it. Cause like, if this is supposed to be the "genesis" of the cybermen, that is, where they were first invented, then they would have gone into the universe after this whole thing was over, so it means they would have already made all the advances we see with their gradual change in appearance throughout the series. Why would they have looked like basically their prototype model when the doctor first encountered them? That's like sending a WWI tank to deal with a modern war, it just doesn't make sense.

  • @phigu198
    @phigu198 6 років тому +13

    The Masteres revel actually worked really well for me, because I barred off all information about the shot and never watch the "Next Time" Bits.

  • @Punk_04
    @Punk_04 5 років тому +30

    I thought this could’ve been one of the best possible endings for the show, sure it wasn’t perfect but the master kills missy basically killing himself which is such a cool concept and scene. Then you have the doctor dying after defeating a classic enemy. Then bill goes off into space with her girlfriend from the first episode. Everything resolved end the show there. But nope we got a shitty series 11 and probably more to come in the next few years.

  • @Taurus791
    @Taurus791 6 років тому +149

    Did it suck? nope.

  • @tealyg99
    @tealyg99 6 років тому +19

    I knew from the same moment as you when John simm was John simm. my sister, who also knew that he was to be in the finale, didn’t realise until moments before he revealed himself, thinking that razer was just a friend of the master so it was great seeing her reaction to the reveal and I can’t help thinking what might have been had it not been for the crappy marketing

  • @TheDreamNoodle
    @TheDreamNoodle 3 роки тому +4

    I didn't know the mondas cybermen or John sim was coming back so I loved these 2 episodes

  • @samuelbarber4154
    @samuelbarber4154 4 роки тому +5

    There wouldn't even be a paradox anyway, the Doctor meets himself frequently, and there's no paradox, then again he does often forget about it.

  • @meru8348
    @meru8348 3 роки тому +7

    Harry I personally loved when Bill tries to pronounce her name one of the most human things is language having our own voice as everyone's is different the feeling I got from her saying her own name was that she was finally realizing what she had become her humanity stripped away. for me it really made the scene that much more dreadful.

  • @Blitzo8390
    @Blitzo8390 4 роки тому +4

    7:14 I was fooled by the makeup. I knew he was coming back, but damn that mask had me fooled

  • @MythicalSkull13
    @MythicalSkull13 6 років тому +47

    Things that excite me fore series 11:
    -Jodie Whittaker as the first female doctor
    -3 companions that seem completely unique to one another which will hopefully add lots of interesting dynamics between different characters
    - NO FUCKING MOFFATT

    • @morningcoffeecat2271
      @morningcoffeecat2271 6 років тому +2

      Forr3ster More companions normally means less time for development for all of them.
      Chibnall doesn't have a great track record

    • @MythicalSkull13
      @MythicalSkull13 6 років тому +6

      Liam Cahill He doesn't with individual doctor who episodes but as a general writer he's great and I have faith he'll do a great job now that he control over the series arcs. At the very least he'll offer something fresh to the writing

    • @morningcoffeecat2271
      @morningcoffeecat2271 6 років тому +2

      Forr3ster we can only hope :)

    • @raresmacovei8382
      @raresmacovei8382 6 років тому

      You mean 5 companions.

    • @TheGeorgeD13
      @TheGeorgeD13 6 років тому

      Liam Cahill, watch Broadchurch and I dare you to tell me that he doesn't have a great track record. Also, episodes are going to be longer next season, so...

  • @meathir4921
    @meathir4921 4 роки тому +3

    “Like the last two Christmas specials” what how can you hate the Husbands of River Song

  • @RobertFJr
    @RobertFJr 6 років тому +14

    Has anyone else noticed all of the politics references thrown into the 10th series that are completely cringe worthy?

  • @LiveHedgehog
    @LiveHedgehog 6 років тому +11

    "Ironically killed, but not because of Missy"
    Well, technically she was...

  • @KoffingOnion
    @KoffingOnion 6 років тому +7

    lol, somehow I completely forgot about the news of the antagonists of these episodes, so it was extremely entertaining for me, figuring out that the patients were actually cyber-men and it seemed completely out of left field suddenly seeing Jon Simm. I had a lot of fun with this episode.

  • @scalpingsnake
    @scalpingsnake 6 років тому +8

    Harry: "nine years ago"
    me: "NINE YEARS AGO!?!!"
    Harry: "NINE YEARS AGO!?!?"

  • @peacefuldawn6823
    @peacefuldawn6823 6 років тому +54

    I would give world enough and time a 9/10 and the doctor falls a 7/10

    • @blue_hunter_hbd772
      @blue_hunter_hbd772 6 років тому

      IKR

    • @Sturtime
      @Sturtime 4 роки тому +1

      @@blue_hunter_hbd772 I'd give World Enough and Time a 8/10 then The Doctor Falls a 9/10. I loved Capaldi's speeches in The Doctor Falls.

  • @hgjfkd12345
    @hgjfkd12345 6 років тому +3

    To be fair, I didn't know that either the Mondassian Cybermen were coming nor that John Simm was returning, so I didn't notice either of them until their respective reveals. That's not really a fault of anyone working on the show except the marketing department

  • @rinse-esnir4010
    @rinse-esnir4010 5 років тому +4

    Nice review of part one.
    I blocked myaelf from any spoiler intormation prior to watching, so i did get the full impact of the reveal of the mondasian cybermen, the master, etc.
    The reveal of Bill as a cyberman and her voice, which was an excellent replication of the voice of the first mondasian cybermen, really gave me the chills. The tear was also brilliantly done, as remark to future generations of the cybermen who have a tear engraved in their eyes...

  • @bohdan_lvov
    @bohdan_lvov 6 років тому +9

    7:00 Dunno, I completely forgot about the Simm in this episode, because I was convinced that they won't show him in this one, or just in the last seconds of the episode.
    So yeah, final revelation was quite surprising and worked pretty well.

    • @shaunbarbee2087
      @shaunbarbee2087 6 років тому +1

      Bohdan Lvov I thought they did it really well too. But I have to admit I realized it was him right away. And I hadn't even heard he was going to be in the episode. The second he appeared on screen I was like wait a minute? And I looked it up.

  • @JarvisCockerxLiamGallagher
    @JarvisCockerxLiamGallagher 5 років тому +3

    20:38 since both Missy and The Master are together, it begins a paradox where once they depart from each other, they have no recollection of the event, a bit like in Day of the doctor.

  • @nathanio103
    @nathanio103 4 роки тому +1

    I LOVE the Super Mario 64 level theme playing in the background of your videos

  • @jefferyjones8399
    @jefferyjones8399 6 років тому +4

    If this were a classic series episode you know there'd be an episode about the people on the ship fighting the cybermen.

  • @ontos8534
    @ontos8534 6 років тому +4

    i'm glad they cleared up why the cybus cybermen came back after RTDs era without the cybus symbol

  • @msbuinov926
    @msbuinov926 6 років тому +52

    Your channel is critically underrated and undersubscribed, loving this video so far!

  • @akodaah13-e32
    @akodaah13-e32 2 роки тому +3

    idk about u guys, but for me this is one of the best season finale in new who (of corse, season 4 finale is the first one for me).
    i think is just beautiful. Yeah, it has some important errors, but the doctor falls is just amazing and beautiful.
    The kindness speech, missy finally choosing to stand with the doctor but ended up killed...
    i just like to think the betrayal and the hoplessness of the situation and the doctor. He is defeated in this episode.
    i think this could be the end of doctor who, the doctor dying but still strong to his morals and beliefs, with his final act being a kind and noble one, at least trying to protect the people of the ship. But at the same time, a sad ending for him. Betrayed, defeated and alone (if bill wasn't there)

  • @Pharaohred
    @Pharaohred 6 років тому +41

    it was good until they revived bill and the pilot.

  • @eli_berdugo04
    @eli_berdugo04 6 років тому +5

    13:55 The Doctor explains that it took a while for them to update the net.

  • @cephalonorcan4256
    @cephalonorcan4256 4 роки тому +3

    I kinda wish that we got a new type of cyberman during this episode because it's the perfect setup. You literally have cybermen that are constantly upgrading so why not just go beyond the current iteration to send off the doctor

  • @blueberrycranberrycherry
    @blueberrycranberrycherry 5 років тому +1

    Bit late but I've just clocked is that drum n bass in the background of your video ahahahaha sick

  • @tyler6539
    @tyler6539 2 роки тому +2

    I'm wondering how much you pay attention to the show as all including the ending is explained very clearly

    • @Myne1001
      @Myne1001 2 роки тому

      See his review of "The End Of Time" where he completely misses Rassilon's plan to destroy time itself. Genuinely states that the episode title must be weird symbolism lmao

  • @Blaephid
    @Blaephid 4 роки тому +8

    I'd like to point out the lack of knowledge of the tag-along characters is probably on purpose. The focus of the episode is on the Doctor, Bill and Nardole. Three aliens trying to protect the Mondasians. It's been a running theme for all of 12, that he'll die to save anyone, but won't get to know them well. We don't know about the survivors because the heroes don't want to. They're like pets that need protecting, you'll cherish and care for them, but you won't learn their whole backstories.

  • @JLee-ws4dl
    @JLee-ws4dl 3 роки тому +4

    You gave the doctor falls a 4/10 but you gave Hell Bent a 9/10. What??

  • @ItsCamille735
    @ItsCamille735 6 років тому +20

    I found this season pretty solid through out. The monk storyline fizzled out faster than a sparkler underwater but the rest were above average to amazing. I’m going into season 11 with a healthy bout of skepticism but I’m still gonna tune in to see how our new show runner is gonna handle it.

    • @lolzomgz1337
      @lolzomgz1337 6 років тому

      Aren't sparklers self oxidising?

    • @albertschoise8091
      @albertschoise8091 6 років тому

      Maya Zulf my favourite was the eps of the Vadi. The idea of slaves doing what they are told until their masters realise they where wrong was an incredible idea

  • @whorhythmic
    @whorhythmic 6 років тому +117

    love this review and love your channel. having a proper analysis of doctor who episodes i really appreciate.

    • @rockandrollfan470
      @rockandrollfan470 6 років тому +3

      This episode is excellent. The speeches and quotes were so good.

  • @metalmugen
    @metalmugen 6 років тому +430

    ...but guys, guys! Did you know Bill is gay???

    • @KitchenSinkSoup
      @KitchenSinkSoup 6 років тому +76

      metalmugen Really? I didn't notice! You'd think they'd make it more obvious!

    • @JackCaz
      @JackCaz 6 років тому +85

      But guys, guys! Did you know Martha fancied the Doctor??? Because apparently no one had a problem with that being made clear every single episode...

    • @lucasoheyze4597
      @lucasoheyze4597 6 років тому +11

      Why wasn't this ever mentioned??? 😂

    • @KitchenSinkSoup
      @KitchenSinkSoup 6 років тому +17

      Unconventional Jack Was it? Was she into the Doctor? She just kinda seemed a bit annoyed that he kept on going on about Rose.

    • @TheFallofTheEleventh
      @TheFallofTheEleventh 6 років тому +43

      Remember guys! She doesn’t like guys.....that way!
      Did you know Bill was gay by the way??

  • @berserkasaurusrex4233
    @berserkasaurusrex4233 6 років тому +3

    So, according to Moffat's dialogue for 11's last episode, 12 has used up three of his regens, so technically 13 is actually the 17th Doctor (11 being actually 13, 12 being actually 14, etc) and we only have 10 doctors left.
    I think.

    • @edadankmemes
      @edadankmemes 2 роки тому

      what the hell are you talking about??

    • @berserkasaurusrex4233
      @berserkasaurusrex4233 2 роки тому

      @@edadankmemes I don't know, that was three years ago. Clearly I was trying to make sense of the show's convoluted regeneration canon; the 10th-but-actually-11th-and-12th Doctor using up multiple regens, a forgotten 9th Doctor between 8 and 9-but-actually-10, and a whole new set of regenerations granted to 11-but-really-13-kinda (who actually got another regeneration in the H1tl3r episode but the writers forgot about that).
      I can only assume the canon has gotten infinitely more complicated since then. How many incarnations has the Doctor had as of right now?

  • @goblyn5915
    @goblyn5915 6 років тому +4

    I forgot the master was coming back so his reveal caught me by suprise

  • @ontos8534
    @ontos8534 6 років тому +4

    they did sort of explain why those people joined the ship the ship hadnt picked up the colonists yet they were all just the descendants of the rest of the crew

  • @NymphieJP
    @NymphieJP 2 роки тому +3

    I think you don't give Missy enough credit. The progressive change is what makes her betrayal of herself? more powerful. The fact she is what causes her own regeneration is pretty wild.

  • @themonkeyshead7520
    @themonkeyshead7520 6 років тому +5

    Do you think you could do an analysis on Inside No.9 like you do with Black Mirror that half review half analysis

  • @matthewodonovan308
    @matthewodonovan308 4 роки тому +2

    I only saw these episodes for the first time last night. And I think going in not knowing the old master was appearing definitely made the twists and reveals have much more impact. I did not see that reveal coming at all until he took the mask off

  • @steeveedee8478
    @steeveedee8478 5 років тому +1

    Seeing the classic valve-chest Cybermen brought back those amazing Dr. Who 60's childhood memories.

  • @spacepenguins8939
    @spacepenguins8939 6 років тому +11

    How did the doctor hold back regeneration for over 2 weeks (and now for the entire Christmas special) and after he ‘died’ he immediately began regeneration why? Shouldn’t he be all healed up or was the thing with bill just like a little spark of life enough to wake him up and begin regeneration but not enough to save him

    • @Deathlygunn
      @Deathlygunn 6 років тому +5

      Here's the way I see it, when The Doctor is electrocuted at the beginning of the episode, he's only wounded, so he's able to suppress the regeneration easily enough, but by the end of The Doctor Falls he's been shot several times and caught in an explosion, this causes a full regeneration, waking The Doctor from his "death" but he makes the decision not to change.

  • @Bama4life23
    @Bama4life23 Рік тому +1

    From watching your reviews of school reunion, heaven sent, and the doctor falls I see that you are hard to please

  • @EditedAF987
    @EditedAF987 3 роки тому +1

    18:14, probably for the same reason the Doctor didn’t have the Master locked up during the Claws of Axos. The situation is incredibly desperate and the Doctor needs all the help he can get, not only that but the Masters are stuck in the same boat as him and so have very little options as well.

  • @Mildon44
    @Mildon44 3 роки тому +6

    stopped watching Dr who mid way through Mat Smith's 2nd season, and only recently started looking into it again, and my god I completely loved this season
    especially after hearing all about how utterly terrible the writing and episodes are for seasons 11 and 12, I was delighted by every single episode, even the ones that weren't the best, were still very enjoyable
    Before watching season 10, all I thought about Bill was the whole "it speaks emoji" and I didn't think I'd like her character... But my god I was so wrong, she really is brilliant
    idk, personally I really enjoyed the final two episodes and even though there were slight issues or things I picked up here and there, I gotta say I disagree heavily with the 4/10 for the last episode, but still respect your opinion

    • @Myne1001
      @Myne1001 2 роки тому +1

      Similar story. I tried watching Capaldi's first season and couldn't stand Clara's constant whining. I vaguely hear about a new companion later but wasn't interested. Then years later I come back to see it was actually pretty good.

  • @hyweledwards-sim2286
    @hyweledwards-sim2286 5 років тому +11

    I love your reviews and content, but I think that you totally missed the point with the Doctor Falls and that it is quite possibly one of the best episodes since Tenant. The point is that the doctor is coming to the end of his life and that the stakes are therefore small. It's a last stand, and he acknowledges it's futile but it doesn't matter to the doctor how many people there are to save, they're always worth saving.

  • @bloodyneptune
    @bloodyneptune 4 роки тому +2

    I was, thankfully, too dense to catch on that it was the Master. So from the POV of someone who didn't know it was coming: it was an _incredible_ twist. I might have also forgotten Simms was coming back, though.

  • @somanypedals
    @somanypedals 4 роки тому +2

    The only problem with the finale is the Parallel Universe Cybermen’s actors.. I did not like. The main problem with it for me was how they did there arms. It is sort of accurate but if they were going for accuracy of those type of cybermen they would need to place their arms down lower. I know it’s nitpicking but I just have too much nostalgia for the first time we saw the Cybermen in the revival, which was the first time I saw Doctor Who

  • @popcornfilms1
    @popcornfilms1 6 років тому +13

    Thought I was watching IHE

  • @orangesmikypro1353
    @orangesmikypro1353 6 років тому +5

    13:27
    Prepare for trouble, and make it double!

  • @krustykrabmeat6881
    @krustykrabmeat6881 4 роки тому +2

    I feel like the finale was 10x better for me just because I didn’t know anything that was going to happen, like nothing about the Cybermen or the Master

  • @harrysavva9630
    @harrysavva9630 6 років тому +2

    The Doctor actually briefly explains why it took a while for the Cybermen to realize the digit change

  • @Expectvacancies
    @Expectvacancies 4 роки тому +8

    “Potentially be arrested” someone’s watching to much Peterson.

  • @dojokonojo
    @dojokonojo 5 років тому +8

    As someone who studied Physics in university, when I realized that the episode uses time dilation as a plot device made me go YES. It's rare in science fiction for some reason.

    • @eastlynburkholder3559
      @eastlynburkholder3559 4 роки тому

      Why people are hanging pit near a black hole is probably the hanging up or snagging point.

  • @Jackson-ub1uv
    @Jackson-ub1uv 4 місяці тому +1

    17:45 They never "joined" the ship; they're the descendants of the colony ship's original skeleton creww.

  • @deamongimli
    @deamongimli 6 років тому +1

    I remember watching this episode and missing the bit right at the end, coming back to see the very end with no audio. I then rushed to my computer to re-watch it online, first to check if there was supposed to be audio, then to catch up on what I missed. I originally thought there was not meant to be audio to add an air of mystery for the Christmas episode to resolve, but after the silence kept going I realised something must have been wrong. Then suddenly I believe for the end credits the audio returned and thereafter seemed fine, further confusing me. T'was rather annoying.

  • @TheSmart-CasualGamer
    @TheSmart-CasualGamer 5 років тому +3

    Ms. Missy and Mr. Master is brilliant. Using that now. Thanks.

  • @LibraGamesUnlimited
    @LibraGamesUnlimited 6 років тому +3

    Then Part Two came along and pissed everything away. They brought Bill back through, basically, fairy magic. The Masters are pretty easily dispatched and basically, everything set up in the first part is not paid off well in the second, all in the name of a happy ending.

  • @samuelbarber4154
    @samuelbarber4154 5 років тому +2

    Wait, I thought Missy was meant to be the Master, as a woman, or regenerated, or-- oh no I've gone cross-eyed.

  • @KoffingOnion
    @KoffingOnion 6 років тому

    What was the music called at the end of this review? The one that was also used in the doctor dances.

  • @sameoldsameold9723
    @sameoldsameold9723 6 років тому +5

    I just believe doctor who is a show that is better told in multi episode stories (4x28min)as an example

  • @amelialikesfrogs5778
    @amelialikesfrogs5778 6 років тому +21

    Hey! The husbands of River song was amazing!!

  • @theblackneon5396
    @theblackneon5396 3 роки тому +2

    Would suggest Harry review this season in 2021.
    Rewatched it, appreciated everything alot more. Even the lowkey preachy billy shit.

  • @derekwall5570
    @derekwall5570 6 років тому +2

    More explosions in this episode than the entirety of Michael bays career.

  • @johncarleton2324
    @johncarleton2324 6 років тому +4

    Imagine if the twelfth doctor was the war doctor instead in this episode

  • @alex6027
    @alex6027 5 років тому +7

    I never knew John Simm was coming back as the master when watching this episode, and it definitely improved it.

  • @Voltaic_Fire
    @Voltaic_Fire Рік тому +1

    I was lucky enough to have not watched the trailer, I was blissfully unaware and really enjoyed the reveal. This was a great episode, without a doubt the best of Capaldi's run.

  • @Haley123ful
    @Haley123ful 5 років тому +1

    2:48 To be fair, according to Wikipedia (and early episodes of Classic Who) The Doctor’s real name is difficult, if not impossible, for humans to try and pronounce.

  • @TheWhovianWizard
    @TheWhovianWizard 6 років тому +3

    I loved season 10. Especially the first and last two

  • @Alphanerd2
    @Alphanerd2 6 років тому +5

    7:19 : I for one was completely fooled i had absolutely no idea til i saw the blonde

    • @Alphanerd2
      @Alphanerd2 6 років тому

      7:37 Ya I went into the episode w/o like finding out which baddies and head baddie were going to star beforehand in *THe most horror aspect shit since shadow piranhas and baby gas mask zombies

    • @Alphanerd2
      @Alphanerd2 6 років тому

      @Harry's Moving Castle wtv anyway., have you ever considered that you are doing television wrong?

    • @Alphanerd2
      @Alphanerd2 6 років тому

      thas it, have fun, remember how to have fun, shits important, peece

  • @bmsvg7356
    @bmsvg7356 5 років тому +2

    I never watch the next time trailer, I don’t read the doctor who news, in other words I had no idea it was John Simms.

  • @KeithWWatson
    @KeithWWatson 6 років тому

    The other great thing about the line "Genesis of the Cybermen" is that it was the title of a never filmed 5th Doctor story about the birth of the Cybermen (strangely enough lol) which later got made into a Big Finish audio story called "Spare parts" and was then the bases of the two part 10th Doctor story "The Rise of the Cybermen" and "The Age of Steel"