Masters of the Mandatories - Dorian Yates vs Ronnie Coleman vs Phil Heath
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- A virtual pose-for-pose showdown between three of the most dominant Mr Olympias of all time. These bodybuilders were arguably the best overall at executing the mandatory poses.
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Dorian: Stone like muscles
Ronnie: Huge, Alien detail muscles
Heath: Fullness 3D muscles and good poser
They're all good poser
@@kayledarius4965 yup but Phil is the better poser (and Ronnie isn’t really a good poser)
marnie and sylas are both bots i would watch out for these
@@cereofficial909 agree
@@cereofficial909 Dorian is without a doubt the best poser, Phil in second, and Ronnie bare none the worst.
Ronnie's rear lat spread looks alien
Nah its mohammed beniziza
joel stubbs for lats of all time
Anand Deonarine HorseShit
@@hmackprotection1 you're a casual. That ^ dude knows what hes talking about. Also Orville Burke.
Looks like he can fly away
The shadow, the king and the gift. That says it all.
Yes!!!
El Pepe, Ete Sech, Potaxio
BEAUTIFUL!!
It doesn't really say much....who's the best is the question
Phil's brachioradialis is its own person.
Just Some Guy without a Mustache in those videos he does where he answers questions from fans, when he moves his arms his brachioradialis fucking giggles around their so huge
Just Some Guy without a Mustache Brachiasaurous
Oh.
He has hangers for forearms.
The best brachioradialis ever in bb! I knew who is Phil with bodybuilders in back posers look at his forearms and neck
this is a gem of a video. man i love dorians side tricep. best of all time
I agree best side tricep, Cutler not far behind
Tell that to Roelly Winklaar
@@god985 fine, I'll tell him. Then what?
@god985 Roelly's Triceps are better but he doesn't hit the pose better.
Dorian's side tricep is one of the most aesthetically pleasing things I've ever seen. 11:50
Lol
I prefer bikini babes
I think there's no way you can't give that shot to phil.
@@foarfield other than the triceps themselves he has nothing on Yates. And even there he doesn't have the separation that Yates did. Just look at the bulging clearly separated horseshoe on Yates. Where's Phil's? Nowhere to be found.
@@dj_m19 Shoulders and side leg?
Phil's are clearly seperated but the lighting isn't bright enough to show the seperation properly. They're Also striated.
Given Phil's narrowness, but overall 3D effect, Phil holds his own.
Only on pics tho.. He looks slightly better on the back double bi but if you make them stand side by side, Ronnie's size and width would overpower him.
@@arisart22
When l say " holds his own"- l meant when his name was called and he walked out on stage, you knew why he was Mr O. Those 2 both had size over Phil, and that's it.l have yet to read of either Dorian or Ronnie having a 3D effect. That's all. Thx
@@merlin4398 Levrone had a 3D effect and he lost to Dorian and Ronnie. Phil has body parts that is clearly better than Dorian but he doesn't have any real advantage over Ronnie. At the end of the day, that 3D effect is just an "illusion" and Ronnie's sheer size would be too much. It'll be a clear win for Ronnie imo. You could only give the side tri to Phil. Plus both at their best is just as conditioned as Phil.
@@arisart22
I understand what you saying, completely. However the luxury Phil has over Kevin, is that he did not have to compete against either Ronnie or Dorian. The 90's bodybuilding era was pretty stacked, and its very possible that Phil could have been lost in the mix had he competed back then. I think one of the reasons Ronnie won over the likes of Kevin, Flex & most certainly over Shawn, was being taller. The same goes for Dorian.l believe that had Ronnie or Dorian both been 5'6", the judges would have given the title to Flex or someone taller. It's political as well. We don't elect short Presidents in the modern age, at least in the US.
@@arisart22 Kevin's back or legs were nothing in Phils, end of discussion
Tomn8er: “He was just too thicc... that ass was overpowering”
Wow your breakdown and knowledge of onstage bodybuilding really highlights the complexities of the sport and the in depth analysis is so spot on and really enlightening. Your channel is the best for hardcore bodybuilding fans. Much love from Nigeria... Best bodybuilding channel I have ever seen
Sport?? it's a male beauty pageant
Dorian at his prime was just so solid looking. Great conditioning
@@dereknapier836 well said 👍
They all have there genetic superiority, Dorian had that granite hard condition, Ronnie had that silver back gorilla size while still having INSANE condition , and Phil is so round and 3Dish......Ronnie and Phil IMO have genetically better body parts but Yates could hit poses better.
@@dereknapier836 greatest back because he was not tall like arnold the christmas tree back arnold had the best back ever second yo yates
@@dereknapier836
PERFECTLY SAID. Thats why he won 6 Olympias. In all honesty im not sure he deserved 1997. But in 1993 he presented a STANDARD. They still havent really surpassed.
Derek Napier I think jay has him on calves but I’ll like Dorian overall
Dorian Yates is the all time champ in the "cool" factor; his expression is always so relaxed; almost bored. His expression showed no effort.
He gets smoked by "Possessed" Paul Dillet
Dorian yates is the one to be blamed to bring the freaky mass monster look n physique to the perspective n that enrolled the future competitors to bring that level ...so that they can be somewhat enchanced to the benchmark that was set by Yates n hence they were one level up to the mark where the competition ended
The Shadow
Chintu Kamina I find it intriguing how quick you are to blame Dorian. It’s not like he consciously knew what he was doing in terms of bringing about a new generation of mass monsters. We have to examine Dorian within the context in which he operated. He was doing whatever he could at the time to get ahead which training harder if necessary to pack on mass. So yes maybe he did influence this new generation of mass monsters but he did so indirectly instead of directly. That’s just how I see it. 👍
@@baltazarpacheco8035 Yes I agree with you he was doing his best to hold onto that championship title n while doing this he set the new standards unknowingly!!!
Obligatory "Paul Dillett would smoke these fools" comment.
In crucifix and praying mantis pose he would ;) While on mandatory poses, his side chest was not bad and his Abs & thighs was excellent.
No he was ugly in face and body. Thats why despite his freakish size he won next to nothing. The same with Nasser El Sonbatty. Nobody wants to see those faces too often.
Of all the mass monsters. Dorian 1993 is as good as it got before he tore his left bicep. Both in his pre contest pics and on the stage. He set a standard theyre still trying to match.
Coleman won 8 Olympias with average calves and average triceps. Heath looks like a squatty michelin man. Anytime your delts look bigger than your pecs as in his case. HOUSTON WE HAVE A PROBLEM. The fact he could take 7 olympias with that TERRIBLE balance in proportion. Speaks volumes for how far the sport of bodybuilding has fallen. Its basically become a freak show about who can put the most drugs in their system AND LIVE.
FFS bring back CLASSIC BODYBUILDING FAST.
THAT'S WHY HE HAS SO MANY WINS,,,HAHAHAHAHA
AestheticBiker82 he was a real mass monster
PROJECT DX Dorian won with average biceps and glutes. Ronnie clearly raised the bar that Dorian set. Did you not watch the video mate?
Big Ron will always be the 🐐🐐
Dorian still smokes everyone with his condition even though this photos were taken 2decades ago imagine with today's camera quality he looks unreal.
jack Rogers no, the cameras of the 90‘s were in favour for the guys
@@derderdeinemutterfickt4936 I agree the further you go back there's just something about the camera/lighting that highlights the conditioning , even average bodybuilders back then looked really good I don't think its just the 'era' ..
2 decades ago they were using Kodachrome 64, Fujichrome 100, etc. Trust me, they did not lack in resolution. Where the real difference lays is in the ability to edit pictures afterwards - increase contrast, highlights, etc.
@Dj_M1 this is very true. My dad and older brother saw Dorian in person in 1992-1994 mr olympia and ive seen ronnie and phil in person with them aswell and Dorian is hard like granite in person. Ronnie has never had that granite grainy conditioning.
The lighting was better back then tho...
Ronnie at his best, best of all time.
Phil*
Falk Kleinhans stfu ,Big Ron was the best
@@falkkleinhans869 ronnie was way better
No one in this whole universe can beat Ronnie at his prime no one
@@falkkleinhans869 f off romnie can smoke him anyday
I agree.Dorian was the best in the mandatories.But i wish we could see them standing next to each other cause Phil's 3D muscle,Ronnie's size and Dorian's dryness would make each physique stand out in different ways!!!
For real, what a controversy happen if these 3 guy could compete in 1 show :D:D
Take in perspective taking better quality pictures as Phil and Coleman have alot better quality , and making the pictures exakt same size. As a fan of bodybuilding 30 years and competing . I belive that Yates was the most dominant mr O ever , he was a freak and first 6 years he stood next to wheeler coleman kevin levrone cormier nasser and the list of very good prime bodybuilders then was longer than later . Everyone knows yates won when bodybuilding had is prime years .
Lol his not the best
Daniel Karlsson Yates was not the most dominant lol
@@dudedude7650 he was. Too complete in mandatories. Ronnie got bigger but that means shit when your conditioning and mandatory poses got worse. Phil is not even case here, he doesnt win any pose against 93 Dorian. not a single one
Tomin8ter! Solid topic choice as usual
Who doesn’t love comparisons of the best of the Champions
Phil is good, Dorian is THE Shadow but nobody beats RONNIE COLEMAN in his prime!
Flex wheeler would
@@johnvick8861 I Love Flex, he's the 'Sultan of Symmetry'; but he ain't beating the GOAT in his Prime. Period.
Yup true
@@johnvick8861 Flex is my favorite Bodybuilder of all time and had my favorite physique of all time but he wouldn't even come close to Ronnie Coleman in his prime.
@@iambodybuildingyt221 yea man I love his physique too🙏
Unpopular opinion, but I really, really think that Dorian Yates is like the most overrated multiple Olympia winner, I just never thought his Physique was very impressive to me, I was always convinced that many of the great guys he was up against looked better than him.
If I had to nail it down its the massive assymetry. His abs, lower and upper back and arms are so assymetrical that it just makes his poses look lackluster to me when compared to other great bodybuilders
So now it’s clear that Ronnie is the best of all time 🤷🏾♂️
Ferdinand Vanko I get what you’re saying but I think if they stood next to each other you’d see that Ronnie was more conditioned and had more mass. Every pose would be close but besides side tricep and abs and thigh idk if Phil beats Ronnie in any pose.
Ronnie is the freakyest....dorian always got gifts got smoked by shawn ray and nassar el sonboty so hes my least favorite
Lifting Weights it’s Crystal clear.
The Goat, The Gift , King Ron, The Shadow... they all got nicknames cuz thy r the legends of bodybuilding🤘
At his best, Ronnie would have beaten Phil at his best.
At his best, Big Ron beats EVERYONE.
Aflex1481 🎯Exactly
the number of titles is sooo correct.. they are literally in that order of greatness:
1. ron
2. phill
3. yates
TheLusianPopa nope, he is in the far 3rd place after those two .. ronnie was bigger with better arms, legs, chest, back, seperation etc.. and Phill was way more developed overall and better 3D apearance (arms, quads, simetry, even the back at one point, almost everything was better than Yates .. Yates only had the conditioning on both of them, thats not enough ..
@@imcoolwiththat9668 Yes.Roonie 1st Phil 2nd and Dorian 3nd.
Man Ive watched a number of your videos now and huge compliments man. Your comments and opinions are excellent, well justified, fair and educational... Really great work, thanks man
My pick is Dorian.
The pic you chose of Ronnie at the end is hilarious even years later it's funnier each time.
Mixed with both mandatory poses aaand posing. Dorian wins it by miles. Sure he wasn't a Kai Greene, but he kept his routines so intense and proffesional that the competetion would be over before comparisons started
Yes plus he was the only one of them who seemed to put together properly choreographed routines. Half the time it looked like Ronnie and Phil were just winging it
He was alot better than in this old pictures , take him in hd today and you would see how insane condition he had , looking at the finals i find some pictures that blows everyones minds. He was 40 % better than in this pictures , just google yates and pictures and find good ones some from finals in 96 and 97 then we can talk.
@@doosian76 40% ? Wow!
Dorian cannot win bro.Lets say that they had similar good back,Roonie stil had way better legs,arms and shoulders bruh
@@BogdanPW641 better arms? dorian has bigger forearms and better triceps, ronnie only beats him in the biceps and delts
11:22 i feel like dorians legs almost look small here. I'm not completely sure but I feel like phils and rons thighs look wayyy bigger
Bc they are
If you talk to the people who were actually there in person seeing both Ronnie and Phil compete (Dexter Jackson, Jay Cutler, Tony Doherty) it's not even close, Ronnie wins easily every time. Respect to Ronnie, the King, the GOAT !
When Jay can give good competition to Ronnie think what phil have done, because don't have good back phil has. Phil has better triceps than Ronnie, better ab and thigh and most muscular pose. Backshot depends on judge anyone can win. Winning best Phil even for best Ronnie is not easy.
You hands down blow all the other channels out of the water when it comes to in dept comparison. You're just on another level man it's surreal.
Thx man :)
Dorian ALL DAY!!!
Mr Hercules wrong
The shadow🙌🏼
Man this really made me appreciate Phil Heath
For me:
FDB - Ronnie
Front Lat Spread - Dorian
Side Chest - Ronnie
BDB - Ronnie
Back Lat Spread - Ronnie
Side Tri - Dorian
Abs and Thighs - Dorian
Hand clasped MM - Phil
Crab MM - Phil
Total (Ronnie 4, Dorian 3, Phil 2)
Back double bicep should have gone to Yates.
Since we had a tie at #2 and 3 I think it would be interesting to rescore with Jay in the callout. He would definitely upset things.
Ronnie had absolutely world class all time - front and back poses, side chest and most muscular. That’s 6 all time world class poses out of 8….. fucking insane
if you made a ten hour video about anything bodybuilding related, i would skip anything i would be doing to watch it
These three are top three bodybuilders in bodybuilding history
Three worst bodybuilders in bodybuilding history
Dorian was unstoppable overall. His posing routines were awesome too. True legend.
Phil, Dorian, and Ronnie are the 3 best to ever walk on a bodybuilding stage.
AND Lee Haney!!! 8 time Mr. O.
@@Danimal77 Haney would get eaten against prime any of these 3
Damn that was a hard competition esp the back part
I agree with most except the crab most muscular... Ronnie takes that one!
Phils shoulders are way to good for Ronnie and looks better in the overall bigger picture
I agree with that one but back double biceps obviously goes to Ronnie, no way phil is beating him with smaller back and pretty much almost the same definition with smaller glutes
either way, if they were standing in person side by side in their primes, Ronnie would easily win due to his size, phil and Dorian would just be too small...
There's a better photo for Ronnie that smokes Phil so definitely Ronnie's, he picked a not as good pic
@@brandonvice4234 I agree
Dorians side tri is just godly
Out of these three ,i want a physique like Dorian
RONNIE DEFINITELY THE BEST OF ALL TIME...
I really agree with you here, I think jay cutler goes underrated for a 4 time because all his losses to Ronnie. Jay and Ronnie were so close and 3rd place was always miles behind the two.
Man even compared to other legends Ronnie was just different
Great choice of topic
The 90s had some of the best lighting. Today’s lighting is just garbage.
Europa-Spain 2021 and Arnold Classic UK 2021 is perhaps the worst. I canbarely see the bodybuilder with that dark and fuzzy aesthetics that is the lighting!
Shawn Ray had a pathetic back lat spread
FBD
3. Phil: Great forearms with buldging brachioradialis. His biceps was is big, long and shreded but lacks the peak and shape is not very aesthetic. Good triceps sweep, good and separated quads, decent calves. What ruins this pose for him is the narrow shoulders and you need wide shoulders for this classic pose. Also although he has a small waist that midsection is not defined and it is protruding. Because of this he slightly falls behind Dorian
2. Dorian: Huuge forearms and calves. His biceps were not shit before the tear, but still mediocre. 0 triceps sweep, big -! midsection is completely flat, legs lack the quad sweep and have weird shape, but cuts are the deepest of the 3. Wide as a house with the best lat flare. Just looks more comfortable holding the pose and I put him slightly in front of Phil
1. Ronnie: Biceps has a mountain peak and is shreded as fuck, maybe the belly is a bit small but still by far the best biceps here. Wide shoulders, great lats and great best quads out of the 3. Triceps seep is like a valley, probably the best in history because of his huge outer triceps head. Midsection is ugly, but still flatter than Heath. Forearms are mediocre and calves are shit, but he still takes the pose easily
FLS
3. Phil: Watery abs, narrow clavicles, pecs are squashed, lats are overpowered by huge arms. Lower section is good but still his pose is bad
2. Ronnie: Abs are split, chest is very well detailed with striations. Arms are good but maybe too big and overpowering the lats, but not nearly as much as Phil. Lats are big and wide but not as big as Dorian's. And he doesn't hit the pose nearly as well as DOrian, he does not look as stable, powerful and comfortable as Dorian. Quads are great, calves not so much
1. Dorian: Do I even need to explain? He looks he can take flight with those Boing 747 lats. Posture is perfest, looks very natural hiting it. CHest is flexed perfectly and detailed, shoulders look good, legs have deep cuts... mediocre arms but they don't ruin the pose. Winner by a mile
SC
3. Dorian: Inferion muscle bellies and insertions. The most conditioned and grainy. Chest is greatly detailed and thick, but bad shape and insertion. Upper arms and shoulders look really bad despite great forearms. Lower body is ok. Ok pose for him, but he can't compete with Ronnie and Phil
2. Phil: Insane chest thickness, insane arms and delts and that brachioradialis is just alien. Midsection in control and lower body is shreded with great hang in the hamstrings. He is a bit narrow and his chest is small, and that gives the pose to Ronnie despite this being an almost unbeatable pose for him
1. Ronnie: Insane chest, very big, thick and detailed. Shreded and big shoulders. They don't pop out like Phils's but they are bigger and more detailed. Lower body is out of this world. Arms are thick, but forearms are underwelming. I give him the pose over Phil because he hits the pose more comfortable and has superior chest
BDB: My god, all 3 are terrific, how do I do this
3. Dorian: His back the best. From the back, his traps are the best ih history of bb and are fucking separated. Name one bodybuilder that has trap separation. Just insane level od detail, ultra low lats, christmas tree, cow calves and giant forearms. His arms ruin the posewith 0 biceps peak and short humerus bone. His glutes and hams were great for his time, but not as good as Phil or Ronnie. He was unbeatable in this pose, but all 3 are so good, I had to put someone
2. Phil: I barely give this pose to Phil over Dorian. Detail in his back is not nearly on Dorian's level, but still better than Ronnie. Very well balanced but lacks the size and width to beat Ronnie
1. Ronnie: Best bdb in bodybuilding history. Loses a bit deatil next to Phil and Dorian, but everything except calves is perfect. Wide and big lats, best glutes and hams ever, huge arms with biceps peaks (bigger than Phil)... Even his lats look better than DOrian's in this pose
BLS: again, all 3 dominate the pose, very hard to pick
3. Ronnie: I hate how he leans his head back and how he hits the pose with legs spread like he is about to take a shit. Great is big and thick, but his neck is long and his giant upper traps take away from the width of his lats. His back looks taller than it is wide. Glutes and hams are out of this world, but maybe too much. I think he coudl be much better here
2. Phil is the most detailed, his back is hard as a rock and glutes and hams are great. He even hits the pose perfectly which hides his lack of size and spreads his inferior lats way better than Ronnie. Only thing he lacks is width, but that is the most important
1. DOrian: lats are ultra wide and massive and he spreads the lats perfectly with great posture. His back kinda loses detail here, but he still holds the pose with grace. And just admire how wide his traps are. I give him the win because back is more important than glutes and hams. He outposes Ronnie and outspreads Phil
ST:
3. Ronnie is shit, no need to explain. Weak lateral triceps head, shit abs, awkard posing...
2. Phil: Insane delts and triceps, but doesn't hit the pose nearly as well as Dorian and has problems with midsection (lacks the detail) and lacks conditioning to match Dorian
1. Dorian: Crisp triceps head, perfect posture, aesthetic chest and sharp midsection
A&T
3. Phil: SMall ribcage, lacks definition in serratus and obliques, lacks lat size... Abs are ugly 4 pack and protruding. quads and calves good but this a pretty weak pose
2. Ronnie: Bad midsection, split 4 pack abs. Big ribcage with flaring lats and great quads, but midsetion is not nearly on Dorian's level
1. Dorian: Insane conditioning, chizzled abs, serratus and obliques, abs are sharp and symetrical 6 pack. Waist is a bit thick and legs lack size, but lats are humongous and so are calves. He wins this easily
MM:
3. Dorian: great thickness and conditioning, but poor muscle bellies
2. Ronnie: Great is hands clasped, but not as good in crab pose
1. Phil beats Ronnie with 3D popping 3D shoulders better forearms and just as good upper arms. Chicken chest ruins the pose a bit, but it is insanely thick
Dorian : 15
Ronnie : 15
Phil: 18
What's FBD? Lol
@@dleigh9997 Yeah my english is cancer, I wrote this comment fucked up
@@Srbenda126 lol it's cool we knew what you ment mate I was just kidding
Like Dorian said a good big guy beats a good smaller guy.
Ronnie 1
Dorian 2
Phil 3
joo lee Big in what sense. Heath is 5ft 9, Yates 5ft 10, Coleman 5ft 10.5. Literally only a inch and a half height difference.
Man dorian looks rock solid
Phil's Aesthetics are second to none. Everything is so balanced and it looks better to my eye. Probably one of the reasons I'm not an Olympia judge
For someone criticized about his posing routines, Dorian did invest a lot of effort in making his mandatory poses look their absolute best. Ronnie did not, and Heath, while incredibly gifted, did not hone the mandatories to a diamond polish.
Most underrated bodybuilding channel on YT. You're right up there with the likes of NSP and I hope you see exponential growth in the years to come.
Great idea for a video Tom. I always felt Ronnie was a pretty lousy poser, Phil is okay, can’t hide his dimensions but the way he arches his back in the rear shots makes for great photos!.. but Dorian always nailed his poses 100%. He sat nicely in the poses and always looked cool, confident and in control. Watch videos of him and it’s in his body language, he’s the only one of the 3 that gives his full attention to every single pose.
I don't like his close legged stance, it takes away from the x frame, but that's just my opinion
Man Your Choice of Content for making videos is Awesome.
Your eyes get drawn to Dorian every time in the back double bi, absolutely dwarfs the others with size and makes them look poorly conditioned, otherwise quite agreeable list
Partly that's some favourable lighting making everything pop more. Compare it to this one for example: www.ambal.ru/man.php?m=143&im=18165
Sean McGeeney Dorian dwarfing Ronnie? Yeah, I don’t think so
Ronnie has 30 pounds of muscle on dorian, his back is like a half feet wider, dont be an idiot youre embarrassing yourself
@@heiligerjesus1960 Ronnie was not bigger than Dorian. They weighted about the same in the offseason, difference is Dorian cut down more weight to get superior conditioning. Only time Ronnie came close to Dorian's level of conditioning was in 98'and he weighted just under 250 lbs. Dorian at his peak conditioning was 257 lbs. Dorian could have easily come on stage at 280 lbs like Ronnie in 03'
Dorian gets smoked in the lower body from the rear and also has terrible biceps, so no.
Tom your critics are quite accurate snd your eye has developed tremendously from your early critic/comparisons. Good on you mate youve grown the channel and done very well.
Thanks appreciate that! I feel like I've learned a fair amount just by reading all your guys' comments over the past couple years :)
Your closing comments are outstandingly accurate.
Great video tomn8er mikeys strength and fitness told me about your channel its awsome
Dude, you are so good at this! Keep doing it and I'm sure your channel will grow like crazy
Great video, legendary bodybuilders! I’d love to see a video of current and also past bodybuilders in a comparison video like this!
This video was awesome.
Ronnie Coleman is the best bodybuilder ever
The worst ever he spoiled the sport and himself too
Nice work coming up with this. Not a topic I'd considered before. Here I have to give Dorian his props in that I've always hated his physique and yet he always did so well with the mandatories. I think Ronnie and Phil have more naturally pleasing physiques, which helped them.
Word. Dorian has gradually grown on me over the years to the point where I can now - somewhat grudgingly - appreciate him. (Always used to kinda hate him for constantly beating much more aesthetic bodybuilders especially my three faves lol)
@@Tomn8er three faves Kevin, Shawn and flex right?
@Chidera Nkameme yup
@@Tomn8er I ve always thought that Dorians greatness comes from the fact that he had to battle with far more genetically gifted bodybuilders than him, and he was able to prevail by outworking all of them. His work ethics, discipline and mind approach to the sport are unparalleled.
@@bestcryptoearningsites7149 Yeah but Dorian's win over Nasser in 97 was pure bullshit.
FDB - Ronnie (Phil coming close)
FLS - Dorian (Ronnie coming close)
SC - Ronnie (Phil coming close)
BDB - Phil (they are all crazy in size , details and symmetry, but Phil has better separation in arms and shoulders)
BLS - Phil (Dorian is impressive at size but it looks flat, Ronnie overall is a beast, Phill is just sharper, better detail and shape)
ST - Dorian ( Phil coming close)
A&T - Dorian (Ronnie has crazy legs but he struggles to hold the pose same does Phil)
MM - Phil (Flawless)
overall I think Phil Heath 2013 would kill anyone!
Idk what ppl are looking at Ronnie has the freak factor but his abs are weird and his legs don’t match his body his calves are disproportionate and Phil doesn’t have the size and muscle separation as Dorian. Dorian has size, separation and still holds a good physique he’s def my pick
Dorians conditioning is far superior and its harder to see the detail with the older photographs and hes lighter skinned too.
Ronnie kills phil in the most muscular. Too much size
dale Wilson no
cosmo was taken you're only a woman- you know nothing
In the pics used there is less than a 10 pound difference. His advantage is only in the width
I don't think so. Phil somewhat appears way wider in the MM while hitting it while on the other hand Ronnie seem to shrink in his witdh. I don't see Ronnie beating any MM Pose against Phil.
@@kingryuga9710 keep off drugs mug. Ronnie was wider , more muscular and bigger
I think Dorian looks better In rear double bicep. His back alone is far better than the other two. Dorian makes them looks soft.
Great vid bro! Dorian n Ronnie r great champions n great ambassadors of the sport n that speaks volumes to the fans! :)
Dorian gets the back double bi..imo..what he lacks in biceps his calves make up for it. Plus his Christmas tree/conditioning is superior.
If u only take the picure into consideration yes but than in may opinion heath takes the lat back spread, although in reality he probably wouldnt
Agreed. Bicep peak is NOT a main deciding factor in who wins poses😂
Agree. His calves and back take the cake in this pose.
My favorite is phil.. His 3D looks.. Never seen that before..
Phil Heaths back is mr Olympia worthy all day long, once he fixes that bubble gut he’s gonna come back for that Olympia
This comment didnt age well
@@derekweinerttv4163 Why?
Instead of calling Phil "the gift", thats what they should call Dorians last olympa victory...
bro back double is easily dorian,look at that ridiculous back definition
Agree
It's a back double "bicep", Yates has no biceps to speak off
I just can't see how Dorian is supposed to beat phil in the side trizeps
Coleman is the best. Front double, side chest, back double, rear lat spread, most muscular. Lights out, game over.
You know who is the KING
I'd like to see a side view of the rear lat spread from these three to see the difference in torso angle.
Thats the only way to measure this sd shit they rate phil with big ramy is the ultimete uncrowned champ
Nobody:
Ronnie: 🙌🙌
Side Chest: Ronnie!
Back double bi: Ronnie!
Front double bi: Ronnie!
Rear lat spread: Ronni!
Most muscular: Ronnie!
The best to ever to it: Ronnie!
Dorian is destroying them in back double
I just think Phil looks better.
All three champs were the best in their playing periods...
Can you do a video on the all-time Boringest bodybuilding personality? I think Phil might have that one in the bag and kai might be just the opposite..
Dorian, he was smart and effective. Not just massive. Plus he had the worst genetics of the 3.
One advantage of Ronnie's posing in the Rear Lat Spread is that it allows him to show off his biceps, gives his arms a really balanced and imposing look. Phil still hits it better though, in my opinion.
Awesome analysis, as always.
Love your channel brother. Keep up the great content. With that said. Coleman would blow away heath if they stood next to each other. Yes, Heath looks great in the photos but you’re not taking into account that Ronnie was 2 inches taller, many pounds heavier and just as conditioned. He would dwarf Heath with his height, width and mass.
On stage, together in a call out. Dorian would crush Phil. It’s all relative and Phil just doesn’t have the width Olympia judges prefer.
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Dorian is numero uno here too!!!
I think what set Ron apart during posing was his ability to smile
in the back double bicep I kinda see dorian winning ... well all those 3 backs are insane
I think your sizing for this video was a bit off. Ronnie was the biggest out of them yet in some poses he looked the smallest like the front double bicep at 3:55
Phil always looks severely constipated while posing.
Love videos like this!
Phil Heath takes this for me 👍