EP119 - are golf clubs too expensive?, Rick's confession, Phil Mickelson cancelled?
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Re: finding golf friends: In the US, there is a company called Spark Golf. Spark organizes 9 hole golf outings on weekday evenings after work. You can bring a partner or they will partner you up with someone of similar handicap. I played last summer and met two new friends who I still play with outside of the Spark league.
And isn't Golf Sidekick here on UA-cam doing the same thing, too? There are a few options out there!
I find the green fee prices are what are keeping me from improving. I happy with older second hand clubs. But I’m not able to get on the course enough
I’m in the process of improving and I’m happy to play the lesser courses for now because it won’t make that much of a difference anyway. Once my ability gets to certain level I’d like to join up somewhere
Are golf clubs too expensive? Yes. Without a doubt.
I’m going to listen to the episode now.
The clubs that you want are too expensive, just like that Jag or Maclaren that is out of your price range. Too many people want the best of the best when in reality, a few years old clubs or knock down clubs from those same manufacturers would be more suited to them
@@ForzaOwnz that’s where you’re wrong. I’m not interested in overpriced clubs. I’ll be getting a DTC brand instead of inflated clubs from a premier manufacturer. I could afford expensive clubs, but the price is absurd.
@@justinb8587 But I'm not wrong am I? You seem like a smart bloke that has gone "That is out of my price range so I am going to be responsible and purchase within my means:"
I would love Ferrari but the price is absurd so I am going to have to settle for a Toyota.
Exactly I want a launch monitor but I can’t afford that one that costs 40k. Not gonna stomp my feet and say it should be cheaper.
Furthermore clubs that are 4-5 years old the technology difference is like nonexistent. Save yourself 75% and buy clubs from 4-5 don’t be too proud to use used clubs and more importantly too entitled to think you deserve brand new clubs.
I'm a mid to high handicapper, I have never spent a lot on golf equipment. It's always been used or new that are 4 to 5 years old. I have been playing for 40 years or so. You spend what you can on your entertainment and that's the way I have enjoyed this game so long. Oh and not just enjoyed but love. Thanks guys
I still want to know why golf clubs (take callaway Rogue for example) cost exactly the same, no matter where you buy them....Brick and mortar or online. It's always the same price at a given point in time. I was told by a retailer that if callaway (for example) found out that a store was discounting their clubs, callaway would not allow their clubs to be sold in those stores. How is that not price fixing or even legal?
Yes golf clubs are expensive IF you want the top of line with all the bells and whistles but... I recently started playing (thanks to Rick for all the tips) and I bought a full set of Taylor made burner irons, titleist 915 d2 driver, a putter and a bag the only thing I'm missing really is a wedge and I got it all for £400 2nd hand. Golf doesn't have to be mega expensive if you don't want it to be
Great show per usual. On the topic of golfing with folks when you are not a member of a club. Every Tuesday on my way home from work I play at a local muni. Sometimes my girlfriend joins me but mostly I go out alone. I always reach out to the starter and let them know I am willing to join anyone. There are times they send me out alone but often times I pair up and from that there have been several occasions the group I pair up with have a great time and end up swapping numbers for future golf dates. Put your foot forward and you never know when you will find a new friend to golf with.
Always fantastic !! Snows meltdown has begun hear in Northern NY !!! Seeing grass again is the start to a new season . Thanks Guys for getting me threw another winter !!
I've just recently bought the Callaway Edge set. I couldn't afford a high end set. I was playing with my original 20yr old PGF set. I was going to upgrade the driver fairly soon but I'm actually hitting straighter and its fixed my slice. I think that top clubs are expensive but there are plenty of options out there. If they bring the price down a little will they sell more? Would people turn over their sets more frequently? Would you want a new top driver if it was super cheap? It's all too hard to say.
It’s not that hard to say. You are spot on, but in a narrow minded way. Unfortunately there are more factors to consider.
Firstly - revenue. As Rick mentions they need to pay sponsorships and advertising as well as employ people to continually develop their products. The brand leaders are proactively employing new tech to make the drivers either perform better, or to become more coveted and desirable. Listen to how companies make use of trending buzz words and incorporate aspects of trending tech to sell a club. The ‘lesser’ brands can be reactive, which involves tweaking the tech just released by the premium brands. This costs much less.
Secondly, brand image and perception. If your flagship driver is 25% lower than a competitors, people will inadvertently decide it’s somehow a lesser product. Furthermore, having an almost unobtainable high price tag makes people want it more, and it remains exclusive. Taylormade have addressed this by rereleasing drivers at a lower price. This keeps their flagships desirable, while still making the flagships of a couple of years ago now attainable. This makes their market penetration much more lucrative, without diluting their image.
I hope that helps 👍
In response to meeting new people. The best solution I've ever known for this is very simple. Twilight golf. Not sure how prominent it is in the UK, but in the states many public courses offer discounted "twilight golf" after a certain time in the night (4-5pm or so). Show up and play twilight and start as a solo, but any time you come up on a group that isn't full and they go to let you play through, ask if they want to play up together. If they say no, they say no. This is where 2/3 of my golfing partners have come from in the last 5 years, pairing up with random strangers. If you have fun, exchange info. Living the #randomgolfclub life
These podcast episodes are the greatest thing I’ve ever heard! Love the content fellas!!
Thanks for the tips guys!
Clubs are expensive but there are alternatives, the tip about remember the good shots is GOLD!
I totally agree with the points about price. I still use my full set of Hippo clubs I got as a teenager. I've added to it over the years off of eBay, same brand because that's what I like, and I'm more than happy with that. Having said that, I'm not really a 'consumer' in any aspect of my life
Listening to this in the middle of the London tube strike, thanks for taking my mind off the 3 hour commute. Class as always
Tube strike? What’s going on?
@@devincarter6005 strike on the underground today and Thursday
@@everettdavison6452 oh damn that’s wild, hopefully the workers prevail. So many corporate shills manipulating the working class. Hopefully it’s resolved soon
You guys are legends! 3 episodes of being in the club house,😂😂😂
I've listened to every audio podcast on Apple iTunes and watched every UA-cam Podcast and still have not received my Clubhouse entry!!!! 🤬 I still love them though...
Love my combo Ben Hogan icon/PTX Pros. Great irons at half the price of the Taylormade irons I originally looked at.
Rick, well done mate. I have been watching you for many years now. Back in the day when you didn't have a beard, and most videos were you and the others doing tips and course vlogs. Congratulations on what you have achieved, it is great to see hard work pay off. And it was a brilliant move moving your channel in a different direction and including the Podcast. Well done mate.
Golf is as expensive as you want it to be..
You can get into golf for £180 for the Sports Direct Slazenger package set. Wilson do package sets for £300.
Nobody is making you buy a Stealth driver and chances are if you can barely drive the ball 220yds then you don't need the Stealth. That package set driver in light/regular flex is probably perfect for you as it is. If you want a new driver then look at the PXG 0211 which is still £205 for a new driver in any spec you want.
Saying that - there's absolutely NO reason why the Taylormade P790's (as an example) need to be £1000 for a set when something like the Takomo 101/PXG 0211 are not even half that price. There's a LOT of brand snobbery in golf. Don't let yourself get sucked in by it.
I started with one of those Wilson package sets because I figured new grooves are more important than buying Mizuno irons and a TM driver.
£300 is alot of money to some kids or adults. Perception is king
The mark up on that £300 set. Prob 75% profit I reckon
@@vacuumboots69 oh yes, it's all relative is what I mean.. I'm sure that slazenger set was closer to £100 in the sales. But the point is you can spend a few hundred or a few thousand if you want, and anything in between. It's up to you!
If the issue is Phil talking about taking money from shady individuals, then the DP World Tour also needs to be questioned. Are all the sources of income for the PGA Tour “clean”?
I bought my Callaway Mavrik irons and wedges from discount online golf stores (4-PW plus AW, GW, SW) for a much better price and then added Mavrik Driver, 3W and 4H when they were not the very latest thing, again for about 30% off original price. So I got the whole lot for less than a grand. And they are far better than I need as a relatively new golfer.
Similar mentality to me, these clubs were all sold with offers of great performance. Savings buying last year or two year old models too good to ignore
nice! I took the similar path, started playing beginning of this year. Bought the mavrik line (5i-pw, 4H, 3W, driver), Jaws (52,56) all at a discounted price. I’m thinking we bought our clubs at the same website. The website is the best! Mine were still new in the plastic. crazy.
I got my package set of Wilson Linear XDs on sale for $150 ($250 normally). Came with a bag, pw-driver, including a 4 hybrid and unlabeled fairway wood, and putter. I can't imagine paying much more for clubs.
What makes golf the greatest game is that we compete against ourselves. It's also what make us crazy and keep coming back again. Great point Guy.
I bought the Wilson Staff Cortex based on Rick's review highlighting that it could hang with the big boys. I paid $165 US 9 months ago for a used-like new specimen. Love it.
One problem is...you could buy the irons you need, older persons don´t need 5-P now!! the best option is singel irons (and buy what iron you want) with todays loft 7 or 8 iron - G, and som wedge, fill out with some hybrid and fw and of you go. But irons in general is too expensiv, if you don´t need a set from 4 or 5 iron down to P. New drivers are, in my opinion a joke in prize. This from a seniors perspektiv,
Long drive comp. story….instant classic!
(RE: Miguel Angel Jimenez's penchant for hole-in-ones) My only hole-in-one occurred the first time I played golf, when I was 9-years-old! I hit a worm burner on a par 3 golf course in Phoenix, AZ (so I'm sure it was hard pan). My father had taken me to the driving-range multiple times before that day to "groove my swing"!🤣 I've played over a thousand rounds since and haven't repeated the feat.
And with regard to irons with graphite shafts, I've always felt they wouldn't last as long and fear them breaking due to them having more contact with ground... although I recently was given a set of used irons (Tour Edge) with graphite shafts (stiff, which is what I play) that I can't wait to try (as soon as the snow melts here in Minnesota)!
Drivers absolutely. It is so ridiculous. I saw the Rogue ST and the Sealth drivers priced over $500 at my local golf course... That is ASININE
Course vlog idea, would be interesting to see you challenge local pros, challenge Pro shop pros and play them on their own turf.
Hi Guys, brilliant pod cast as always, I 've only been playing a short while and i'm amazed the rspca aren't prosecuting me for the wild shots that occasionally disappear off to my right , but you know, it is part of the fun and you just got to laugh and learn from it. That's just golf !! I'm breaking 95 and occasionally 90 and yes, I am always looking to improve, but I will never let that ruin the fun of this great game.
Guy, I'm with you on the Walkers ready salted! Such a versatile crisp, Worcestershire drizzled over!🤤 Secondary choice would have to be Seabrooks pickled onion crinkle cut, harder to get though!😆
It makes me so excited to hear breaking 75 is coming back. That has been one of my favorite series!
Working at a top tracer driving range, long drive is so addictive when I am out there I grab a small basket of real balls. Our range balls are 80% ball and our Toptracer normalises the numbers so in theory you get an extra 20%. You definitely do by the way I get ball speeds above 173+ so deffo big tip. Put me at 7th on my range.
I do hope you make another breaking75 series or just generally more of you playing stroke play and trying to put up a score.. that's the content me and my buddies enjoy most!
I n regards to clubs being too expensive I think the car comparison is great. Cars have a range of prices and features and you don’t have to spend top dollar to get 90-95% of what the top brands offer. If you think of Callaway, Taylormade, Cobra as your luxury brands, (Mercedes, BMW, Audi) for the most part your paying for the name. You can find the mid tier cars/ clubs with almost all the features of the luxury cars you just don’t get the fame for having the luxury brand name. Either way your still driving on the road/ playing golf and it isn’t necessary to spend top dollar.
Great way to enjoy night shift on a Tuesday morning.
Part of the problem, and I know this isn’t only true to me, is that wages haven’t risen with inflation. Golf is a lot more expensive for me today than it was 10 years ago.
If you are looking at the latest clubs then yes of course they are expensive but you really don't need to. We know clubs barely change from year to year so just wait a year when the price goes to almost half or just get last years model. Really nothing to complain about
I can't tell you how excited I'll be when there are more course vlogs with you and the rest of the guys.
Not only can you buy 2nd hand clubs for fractions of new but you can also sell good clubs 2nd hand and recoup some of that initial investment if you keep them in good condition. It doesn't have to be an expensive game. And the newest and biggest and 'best' isn't necessary for the vast majority of us.
And, regarding Phil, it seems to me something in his persona changed when he started donning those "Creepy Uncle" sunglasses a year or two ago.
When Rick said his daughter commented that the driver made a good sound after dragging it down the stairs all I could think of is every UA-cam review of a driver talking about the sound that it makes. Made me giggle
I haven't hit a brand new pro v since high school team and Guy is just hitting them down range😂😂😂 this game makes you do crazy things
Happy Tuesday boys and girls.
Prices to high totally agree
Big company set target of £30m profit, they only make £20m they call it a failure….!!!
They still made £20m which isn’t a failure by any means……
If the stealth driver was £300 practically everyone would by 1, I would be happy with £20m profit and my product taking a big share of that market….!!!
If only big companies thought like me…….🤷♂️
Great show again lads. Regarding the meeting up with people for golf. I live in Dubai and there are groups here you can join and meet up with a group of people to play a round. Golf Society is a thing and I use it quite a lot. Different people most weeks and good for networking in general. Keep up the good work
Speaking of cost of clubs and doing more full iron set reviews.
More DTC reviews would be great!
The super cheap combo set ones are fun, but not super applicable to mid-low HCP with a budget.
The DTC brands are great opportunity for mid-low HCP to buy custom clubs at a more affordable price.
Haywood, Takomo?, Sub 70, Ben Hogan, etc.
Head-to-head bracket or just regular Ricky Sheils reviews.
Love the fact it’s Vimto. Proper Manchester drink 👌
Second hand is the way to fly. Sometimes it's a little luck finding something but I got a set of Mizuno Hot Metal JPX 921's only used for 1 season for half the price of GolfTown. There are good second hand clubs out there.
on the top tracer if you get a launch angle of 16 or 17 degrees it adds about 40 yards to ya distance lol i avg 275 carry and roll but if i hit that launch angle top tracer says im hittin mid 320s lol.
I find ex-demo and bargain bucket clubs just great, apart from two clubs all mine are second hand.
Really enjoy the back and forth between Rick and Guy. This episode should have a disclaimer: "No children were harmed in the making of this podcast"
golf clubs have become very expensive. to replace clubs these days does not happen due to the replacement cost. i still have a driver that is over 10 years all and to find now over $900 NZ for a new one, well that's more than a weeks rent.
1:27 Rick Barlow🤣
On club prices. How can Mizuno charge the same price for each iron in the Pro range in the USA yet in Europe the 221 is cheapest and the 225 dearest ( by about £30 a club). The heads are all made in Japan and the shafts are all made in China, surely the shipping costs for the different types of club head are the same. Very puzzling
I play 115 gram stiff graphite shafts now and ive never played better. Love them
I think the difference in sport is that Golf is such a personal thing, its enjoyable and durable, you can play professionally for 50 yrs in some cases.
I'm fresh to golf and seeing prices people pay for such simple stuff is insane. For example you can buy a new pro chainsaw cheaper than a meh quality set of irons or you can get a decent hunting rifle cheaper than a main name driver. It's laughable.
Are golf clubs too expensive? Yes AND No. Buying the brand new clubs at the beginning of the season is on the same level as these people who just have to buy the new iPhone when it releases at the ridiculous pricing Apple charges... However, wait until that season is coming to an end if you feel you need a proper fitting on the club, and try to see if that's on sale. If you don't care about fitting, wait until the next year. The cost will be about 50% of the original price. I bought 2017 Taylormade M2 irons for $500 in 2018 (4-PW). I bought a Callaway Rogue (not the ST) original price was like $400+, I paid $275. The only club I bought that doesn't fit that mold? A Scotty Cameron Newport III for $160 because I had a friend in the Cameron Collectors Club who did me a big solid... do the math on that. ALL brand new in the plastic clubs of a high quality and we're talking under $1,000 for the whole bag... If that's too much, then buy used. Plenty of GREAT used clubs on the market at a fair price that will get you playing. The only problem you'll have is your own ability. End of story.
To further prove this point, within the last two weeks I just purchased a Cobra Speedzone 5 wood. Not the RadSpeed, the prior model. Brand new club, still in the plastic, with the cobra connect Arccos sensor in the grip for $169. That club was originally $229. Here's the kicker, when you buy that club, you get a full set of Arccos sensors for your whole bag sent to you FOR FREE. That's a $150 set of sensors. It's 12 bucks a month for the app...
Regarding individual sports vs team sports, I think it is very dependent on the person how they react to their performance. Your team may crush the opponent, yet an individual on the winning team may still be very disappointed in how they personally played. While others might just rejoice in the win by the team even if their personal effort wasn’t that great. With individual sports, a player normally puts more pressure on themselves to perform, but some can handle situations better than others. Either way, staying positive, but realistic, is probably more healthy for individuals, especially right after the event or circumstance. Then while practicing later, one can work on improving a skill or even how to handle difficult situations.
Hats my dudes! You need to do hats, it’s the thing that always tells people around me that I play golf. I met a people at a baseball, at a bar, at the mall (gag I hate malls) and other venues and I’ve ended up playing golf with with people from all those places. You guys should sell hats. I’d get one or in multiple colors.
Most new golf clubs, top golf balls, and great public golf courses are very expensive. Because of inflation, golf for the most part is for a rich mans game. Being on a budget and older in age, For me i have all the clubs I need to play( gotten several years ago), and play courses that fit my monthly budget. In the past, Usually got season pass at a local nine hole course. i dont need a fancy golf course to play golf anymore, just for walking exercise anyway.
Im more concerned with the cost of joining a golf club. My home coarse is doing somehting thats probably not even legal, full membership is $2400, limited (any day but Saturday and after noon on sundays is $1900 but a full unlimited is $900 for 40 yrs olds or younger...I know the pro pretty well and going to talk to him but it doesnt even make sense. Last year i would just pay per round, if i was with a member (which i am mostly) it was $50 including cart, cart costs $15 a round even if ur a member. The coarse will be open from like early may to November 1st. And i get probably 5 free rounds a year there by playing with an employee or a member which gets 2 free rds to pass out a yr so Im not even sure the $900 is worth it but i would certainly play way more. What should i say to the Pro about the odd pricing for 40 yr olds?
Are golf clubs too expensive? They don't have to be if you're not trying to buy a game! There's loads of good stuff out there at good, or even great prices. One of the main reasons why the upper echelon brands 'get away' with charging the prices they do, most people confusing needing a new club with wanting a new club. Yes, there have been advances over the years, but not so much to justify 5%, 10% price rises year on year.
Do not confuse nice new shiny golf clubs and a solid repeatable swing. One is very important, the other is not.
Great podcast, you make a great point regarding the club manufacturers having to pay the players, but the clubs are by and large, made a n China. Made for pennies on the dollar.
Thanks for all the good content
Finding Golf Friends. It may be possible to achieve this by using the “Nextdoor “ App. You can set up a Group and describe the purpose for the Group and maybe others will join. I have set one up Golfers United in my area and managed to get one person to join so far, but imagine how successful it could be if it was led or backed by Rick Shiels.
Just wish It was easier to buy last years range. From one year to the next (or even 5 years) technology barely moves.. When ping g425 came out it was hard to get 410/400. What happens to all that stock?
Heard you talking about Miguel Angel Jimenez holes in one having 10. A guy I play golf with at my local golf club Tracy Park has had 13 holes in one in 8 months this has to be a record
How did you forget Frazzles in the crisps? Legit top tier
How about a you tube golf league. Nothing with too much commitment but its very watchable
I was actually eating sweet chilli crisps at the time I got to that section 😂
Any chance of a review on carry golf bags, I know you could say a bag is a bag but again there are several different types with different sized pockets and weight and how waterproof they are??
Really enjoyed this today keep it up. Crying laughing.
Glad you enjoyed
And we need the crew golf vlogs weekly with the lads
My closest to a hole in one was a thinned 8 iron from 151 yards that never got 10 feet off the ground. It skipped and rolled towards the cup and bounces off the pin and I’m yelling “don’t go in!” Because I didn’t want it to be my first hole in one!
An answer to the title question is absolutely yes. What's even more than clubs all being too expensive is the obvious collusion in pricing between brands and the atrocious delivery time.
the question isn't are golf clubs too expensive, its why are we paying full retail for drivers that don't offer much over a 5 year old used driver?
At my golf club we had a titleist day and i was getting fitted for a tsi3 driver if i bought it all brand new with a tensei orange av raw it would of come to £550 so I bought a immaculate condition head for £275 on eBay and bought that tensei orange av raw shaft of my coach for £100 in total I saved £175 I think going second hand golf gear in good condition is defo better
I think people just have to accept that for the most part, new clubs or brand new clubs are not necessary. Highly recommend second hand clubs for anyone who wants to try something new. But you definitely don’t need the most current clubs to improve or to find more distance. Anything that has come out within the last 10 years will still get the job done.
I think any clubs in the past 40yrs will be fine. Long as they aren't too worn or rusty. If you have some lightly used irons from 1990 they will work fine. Just buy a few grips and you're good to go.
Best hours entertainment for ages, a few observations on some of the content, The Open partnership for it's 150, Tiger and Pat Reed paired up, both cheaters in different ways, and Lads check out Nice 'n spicy Nik Naks, as far a overpriced kit, if you get a second hand Ping G10 driver you won't be far off what the newer clubs are doing.
Here in the US we don’t know what most of the chips you are talking about are lol.
i think the hole in 1 thing is accurate, i got one 15 years ago when i was 12, hit a 4 iron in from 148, landed just short of the green and just rolled up and in.
42:40 Iron Covers
I waited 10+ years to switch my entire bag... Yes, it was more expensive now, but I know I won't need to buy a new set for another 10+ years. Don't need to change out your bag every year
Lots of affordable second hand clubs out there. Nobody “needs” the newest model.
I think part of the issue is even the 2nd hand market is really inflated as well
I still think one of the most underrated possible pairings would be Tiger and JT. Not only would you get Old Star vs New star. But super good friends facing off with both being fierce competitors as well
I mean there is a reason the PNC makes an effort to pair JT and his dad with Tiger and charlie. They know they are good friends, some good jeering and betting between them and they are a fan favorites
Can’t imagine 180 full swings in
One guy in my club has 14 Hole in Ones in the last 6 or 7 months. All of them with witnesses and photos haha
Have not started the video.
Yes golf clubs are far too expensive. I am going to start going a DTC route with my future clubs.
Takomo irons
Haywood Wedges (seem to have the most DTC options)
Costco Putter
Even PXG has gotten cheaper than large brands now.
After listening to Rick's take.
Let's say you're a new player, you don't know a ton about golf clubs, so you don't know what to look for second hand and want to get into golf. A new full set of clubs is about 3500 dollars, then you need clothes, 50 for a shirt, 80 for pants, 150 for shoes, 10 for gloves, 50 for balls, 10 for tees, another 350 dollars there.
I'm not a fan of Rick's take here. No other sport has this "elitist" barrier of entry for new equipment. Just because pricing has always been high doesn't mean it's okay or isn't too expensive. The Ferrari comparison isn't appropriate here for a couple of reasons. All new golf clubs aren't Ferrari's. Muira is a Ferrari, Honma is a Ferrari. Ping, Callaway, Taylormade, Cobra those are Toyota, Chevy, Ford, Dodge etc.
It's very obvious golf clubs are too expensive, as there are many quality DTC companies out there undercutting large brands 50%-60%-70%. Meaning the cost of making clubs and still making a profit is nowhere near as high as the mainstream manufacturers are charging. Just look at Takomo for example, a full set 4-PW of 101 irons is $480, extremely similar to Ping i500/i525 in design and numbers. Yet Ping charges like 1300 for a set of Ping i525s. So almost 3x as expensive.
As Rick said, you can always buy used, but the high price of new clubs trickles down to the used club market, 2nd swing for example sells i500 sets for about $800.. still almost double what Takomo's DTC offering is.
Rick i have saying for the guy who buys all the top brands as soon as new ones come out but his golf does not improve. " All the gear and no idea"
Private courses with their expensive memberships presents an optic in which the average person thinks this is only a game for the rich..It's not really true but I understand the thought. If these private courses would open golf up to one round a year for people who aren't members maybe that perception would change a little.
Plenty of Birds ™️
Yes golf balls are way to expensive and so are clubs so if you dont need new clubs dont buy if we all stop buying spanking new clubs every year then the brands would stop releasing new stuff all the time
A lot of people are spending a fortune on a new driver hoping it's going to fix their driving. In a lot of cases they would be better off spending half that amount on lessons.
What are your thoughts on inviting a follower/fan to take up the break 75 challenge with you?
toptracer has really made it fun to practies here in sweden during the winter. We have a few places here in stockholm that are indoor driving ranges with toptracer. it doesnt come close to playing for real but it is about 700000 times better then just hitting in to a wall that is 30 meters away haha.
Yup, changed my whole winter outlook. Being able to play some sim golf every week has made the winter way more tolerable. Its also been a massive moneymaker for our local indoor range. Place is always full with people waiting 20-60min for a bay
Luv the podcast keep it up ! 1 in 5 men don't have any close friends,
Don’t even know where the kids are 😂😂😂😂
Golf clubs are like cars. Some cannot afford even basic transportation. Many can only afford used. Some can afford new, but only a Chevy or a Ford. Some can afford a Lexus or a Cadillac. Some can afford the Ferrari.
Class. You to gents are the best. Clubhouse 👍