പള്ളികൾ ഏറ്റെടുക്കുന്നതിനെതിരെയുള്ള പ്രതിഷേധം തുടരും; യാക്കോബായ സഭ
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ആദ്യം കേസ് കൊടുക്കാൻ പോയപ്പോൾ ഇതൊന്നും ഓർത്തില്ലേ
ഉള്ള നിയമം അനുസരിക്കുന്നില്ല പിന്നെ എന്തിനു പുതിയ ഒരു നിയമം
ആദ്യമായി നമ്മുടെ ഭാരതത്തിൻ്റെ പരമോന്നത കോടതിയായ സുപ്രിം കോടതി വിധി (അപ്പിലി ല്ല) അംഗീകരിച്ച് സമാന്തര ഭരണം നിർത്തണം. മേലിൽ എന്തെങ്കിലും അഭിപ്രായവ്യത്യാസ മുണ്ടെങ്കിൽ ഒരു മേശക്കു ചുറ്റും ഇരുന്ന് ചർച്ച ചെയ്ത് പരിഹരിക്കാം. വേണമെങ്കിൽ നിയമപരമായി 1934 ഭരണഘടനയിൽ മാറ്റം വരുത്തി 'പ്രശ്നം പരിഹരിക്കാം. നിങ്ങളുടെ 'പ്രശ്നം നിങ്ങൾ പരിഹരിക്കു 1934 ലെ ഭരണഘടന പ്രകാരം. അതിനർത്ഥം നിങ്ങൾ മേലിൽ കോടതി കയറരുത്. അത് നിങ്ങളുടെ ശേഷ്ഠമായ മതത്തിന് അപമാനമാണന്നാണ് കോടതി പറഞ്ഞിരിക്കുന്നത്.
നിയമനിർമ്മാണം തടയാൻ ഇന്ത്യയിൽ ഒരു കോടതിക്കും കഴിയുകയില്ല മറിച്ച് നിയമം നിർമ്മിക്കുന്നത് നിയമ്മ നിർമ്മാണ സഭകളാണ് സുപ്രികോടതി നിർത്തലാക്കിയ തമിഴ്നാട്ടിലെ ജെല്ലിക്കെട്ട് അവിടെത്തെ സർക്കാർ പുനസ്ഥാ വിച്ചില്ലേ?
Sreshta Bawa live long.Give him life for 1000 years.
ഞാൻ ഓർത്തഡോൿസ്‌ ഇടവകയിൽ ആണ്,
ഇ വിധിയെ ഓർത്ത് ദുഃഖം ഉണ്ട്
You don't have the right to say -Patriarca is not necessary to approve - in any context .
Orthodox Sabha നിയമം വിട്ട് ഒന്നും ചെയ്യില്ല എന്നതാണ് പ്രശ്നം എന്ന് തിരുമേനി പറയുന്നത് correct.
ഇന്ത്യാ രാജ്യത്തിൻ്റെപരമോന്നത കോടതിയായ സുപ്രിം കോടതി വിധിച്ച വിധി രാജ്യത്തിൻ്റെ നിയമം ആണ്. ഈ വിധിക്കെതിരെ അപ്പീൽ ഇല്ല. കാരണം, സുപ്രിം സുപ്രീം കൊടതിക്കു മുകളിൽ കോടതിയില്ല. പകരം ഈ വിധിയിൽ എന്തെങ്കിലും തെറ്റുപറ്റിയിട്ടുണ്ടങ്കിൽ രുത് തിരുത്തി കിട്ടണം അതിനു അപേക്ഷ കൊടുത്തു. പരിശോധിച്ചു. തെറ്റ് പറ്റിയിട്ടില്ല എന്നു ഉറപ്പുവരുത്തി. പിശക് ഒന്നും സംഭവിച്ചിട്ടില്ല എന്നുറപ്പു വരുത്തി കഴിഞ്ഞു. പിന്നീട് ഹർജിയുമായി സുപ്രിം കോടതിയിൽ ചെന്നപ്പോൾ സുപ്രിം കോടതി 25,000 രൂപ പിഴയടച്ചു കോടതിയുടെ സമയം പാഴായി കളഞതിന്. ഇനിയും കോടതി മുഖേന പരിഹാരം ഇല്ല. പിന്നെന്തു പരിഹാരം? നിയമ നിർമാണം എങ്ങനെ Gort. നടത്തും ? സുപ്രീം കൊടതി വിധി എതിരായാൽ എങ്ങനെ ഒരു ജനാധിപത്യ സർക്കാർ കോടതി വിധി അസാധു ആക്കും നിയമ പരമായി? ജയിച്ച കക്ഷികൾ അവിടെ മിണ്ടാതിരിക്കുമോ?.
Tirumeni, answers are there in the Supreme Court order of 2017.Tirumeni do not be.in hurry.Read the order patiently. Then you will understand the order.What Supreme Court order says Tirumeni, you can believe in Supremecy of Patriarch. But Patriarch could not appoint or Cnsercate priests, metran,or Pralxate.Then what is the use?
Tirumeni, onething you say that You accept Malankara Orthodox Suriyani Sabha 1934 Constitution?Yes or No.If the answer is No then do not talk more.No use.
Supreme Court Committed any Error in it's Judgment there is a provision in the law that is Curative petition.That you have already done. You got reply from the Supreme Court that every thing is O.K.Then what to do.?
Tirumeni is worried about Government is spending lot of money in giving police protection. Tirumeni you don't prevent the Orthodox Sabha members who come with Supreme Court order.Then POLICE protection is not required. Who will prevent a person who come with Court order. How Orthodox Suriyani Sabha members could enter Mulanturuthy Church?Gregorios Tirumeni himself was not Coming out from the Church. Tirumeni was telling to police by using force you take me out. Then SP put his hand on the shoulder of Tirumeni. Then Tirumeni like an obedient Boy moved out along with S.P😂Everybody witnessed the scene 😂POLICE lifted Osthathios Tirumeni.
This can only be done by police. That is why Government is spending money to diploy POLICE .😂
The question is whether you accept 1934 Constitution or not?Justice Mallimutt raised a doubt whether you belong to a Christian Church.
Tirumeni, you are always agreived party .1958,1995,2002,2017,and 2019.
When there is a property disputes between two persons and mediation failed they approached Court of Law.Then both should accept the court verdict. But Tirumeni and group not accepting the verdict. Instead of that Tirumeni is telling that Government Change the law and enact a new Law. O that they can escape from the Court verdict.
Justice Mohammed Mushtaq will never told to Government to frame niyamam to save the dissident.
നിയമം വിട്ടു എന്തെങ്കിലും ചെയ്താൽ അതു കോർട്ട് അലക്ഷ്യം ആകില്ലേ തിരുമേനി
Supreme Court judgment is over.Then to make legislation.
സുറിയാനി ഓർത്തഡോക്സ് സഭ..... അതു പറഞ്ഞത് ശരിയാണ്
Tirumeni, It is very difficult for you to run this Sabha if Orthodox sabha go strictly as per 2017 Order.
Don't disappointed.
Tirumeni, what the Supreme Court judgment order says?The Supreme Court order says that there is only one sabha that is Malankara Orthodox Suriyani Sabha and governed by 1934 Constitution of Malankara Orthodox suriyani Sabha. That is all.The name of Jakobaya sabha is not mentioned in the order because 1934 Constitution is for the Malankara Orthodox Suriyani Sabha.
Orthodox Suriyani Sabha is accepting Patriarch is the head of Suriyani Orthodox Sabha of Antioch. The appeal of Patriarch was dismissed by Arun Misra Bench.Verdict is over. Then the Bench gave an advice that in future any dispute in the Sabha.errupts you do not come to Court but you talk yourself and allay the differences if reqired ammend the 1934 Constitution as per law.This is after implementing the Supreme Court order. Very Simple. Don't mislead the Sabha Makkal. Don't allow the Malankara Orthodox Suriyani Sabha to Split..❤❤❤WE are respecting Patriarch Bawa. We are remembering in our prayers Aprem Bawa.
In 1958 both the faction umited and became one sabha accepting 1934 Constitution. The name of the SABHA became Malankara Orthodox suriyani Sabha.
Tirumeni, you are very confident
നമസ്കാരം ഉണ്ട്. നിയന്ത്രണം നിയമ പരമല്ല. കോടതി വിധിയെ അഗീകരിക്കില്ല ഇവർ. പിന്നെന്തിനാണ് ഇനിയും പുതിയ നിയമം?
Tirumeni, Orthodox Suriyani Sabha is not going to allow division of Malankara Orthodox suriyani Sabha. So there will be disturbed atmosphere in Churches..
For Orthodox the case is ended. Annyayam .
In 1964,Timothios.Tirumeni was elected to Consercate as Catholcose and consercated as Catholcose by Yakoob 3rd Patriarch. We have to accept this pro cdure to end theConflict.
സഭ ഒന്നാകണം,34ഭരണ ഘടന അംഗീകരിക്കണം, അടുത്ത കാതോലിക്ക യായി യാക്കോബായ സഭയിൽ നിന്നും ആരെങ്കിലും വരട്ടെ.പ്രശ്നങ്ങൾ തീരട്ടെ.
When Orthodox Suriyani Sabha is fully succeeded in Supreme Court Verdict. Curative petition filed
by Patriarch Kashi as no appeal against Supreme Court order.That was rejected . All Chances were exhausted. Then what to do?Accept the Supreme Court Verdict.
How you became the Custodian of Piravam Church, Mulanturuthy Church, Manarcadu Church. ?The 5th Catholcose of Malankara Orthodox suriyani Sabha Basalios Marthoma Mathews First was a member of St.Marys Church Manarcadu. His Holiness Father,Father Mathews was the Vicar of Manarcadu St.Marys Church. Fr.Mathews was buried in the Cemetry of Manarcadu St.Marys Church. Then Tirumeni how you can say that Manarcadu St.Marys Church belong Solely to you.?Like wise Trikkunnathu Seminary Chappell and Seminary and Khabar of Your Malankara
Metropolitan Athanasius is in the Seminary Chappell. PILIPPOSE MOR THEOPHILOSE TIRUMENI THE ANGAMALI DIOSCESE METROPOLITAN OF ORTHODOX SURIYANI SABHA WAS BURIED IN THE ANGAMALY SEMINARY CHAPPELL BY THE SIDE OF THE KHARAR OF ATHANASIUS TIRUMENI. THEOPHILOSE TIRUMENI WAS THE ANGAMALY BHADRASANAM OF MALANKARA ORTHODOX SURIYANI SABHA FROM 1984 TO TILL HIS DEATH THEOPHILOSE TIRUMENI WAS METROPOLITAN OF KOTHAMANGALAM Cheriya Pally.How was it possible?The body of Orthodox Suriyani Sabha ANGAMALY Priest Secretary Fr.Jacob Mannara Prayil was buried in the side of Trikkunnathu Seminary Chappell How it was possible Tirumeni. Tirumeni you know the GREAT MARCH From Kottayam To Trikkunnathu Seminary was carried out by Knanaya Suriyani Jakobaya Sabha Valiya Metropolitan Abraham Mor Clemis Metropolitan to Occupy Trikkunna thu Seminary .What happened to Trikkunnathu Seminary Chappell and Property?So do not tell that all Churches are belong.to Jakobaya Suriyani Sabha.
Compromise should have been in1915 or 1920.How the priest could manage their members to stand and fight like foes.
Tirumeni, from Manarcadu St.Marys Church one family has joined in Indian Pentacotal Sabha in Manarcadu. Tirumeni please tell can he take a candle stand from Manarcadu St.Marys Church while leaving?
നിങ്ങൾ ആദ്യം കോടതി വിധി അംഗീകരിക്കുക
Nothing you do for the common people but everything is under the rule of the rulers
Why High Court is Ordering police protection?When Supreme Court Order is there then what is the need for Niyama Nirmanam?
After the Supreme court judgment of 1958 and passing of 1934 Constitution of Malankara Orthodox suriyani Sabha there is no Jakobaya sabha. Malankara Jakobaya Suriyani Sabha became Malankara Orthodox suriyani Sabha. Then among Orthodox Suriyani Sabha how Referundum can be taken?The Advocate of Jakobaya faction raised the demand of Referundum to Supreme Court. The Supreme Court rejected the plea.Then demanded to allow two Vicars to allow prayer timing that also rejected by Supreme Court. No
Parallel Administration in a Church that will lead to Clash between two
and which lead to Closing of Churches..
Kuruppumpadi St.Marys Church is one of the oldest Church of Malankara Jakobaya Suriyani Sabha (Malankara Orthodox Suriyani Sabha).The Church is one of the biggest Church in Malankara Sabha. From 1912 Onwards the Patriarch Kashi wanted to put the Malankara sabha under Patriarch. Unwanted Power was given to Patriarch. This lead the Malankara Sabha Under pressure from Patriarch. Though Patriarch was not having Temporal power Patriarch Kashi Gave Temporal power to Patriarch. Even they do not want Catholica te in Malankara..Peter 3rd Patriarch Strengthened Malankara sabha. PETER THIRD PATRIARCH WAS
HEPFUL IN PREVENTING ANGLICAL INFLUENCE IN MALANKARA SABHA..ABDULLA PATRIARCH HAS DONE MAXIMUM HARM TO MALANKARA Jakobaya Suriyani Orthodox Sabha.
Tirumeni, Jakobaya Suriyani Sabha became Malankara Orthodox suriyani Sabha in 1934 Malankara Orthodox Suriyani Sabha Constitution. 1958 Verdict of the Supreme Court declared that it'is Valid.I Government wish to introduce Bill let Government do it..why delay?
If you are the owner of the church ,then how Supreme court can take this decision?horrible. Then What for the Bill.?
In Assembly Majority is prooved in the floor of the house not any where else. Like wise the Majority of Catholcose Malankara Metropolita and Committee members are decided in Association. Not taking Majority in
Edavakas.Edavaka sent its elected
representatives.That is over in Parumala Association held in February 2002..Justice Mallimutt Submitted his report to Supreme Court. Supreme Court studied the report and after Studying all the evidence only the Supreme Court judgment came in 3rd July 2017.clearly.
Teerpu is in Court of law.That is over in Supreme Court of India on 3rd July 2017.Then what is judgment.
Tirumeni, ask the Kerala Government to Pass the Bill. That is the only way for stopping the Implementation of the Supreme Court judgment. If there is a judgment that Government can pass the niyamam.
In the next posting date Government Pleader can submit affidavit that Government will introduce the Bill on .....date.
Arun Misira did not mentioned anything about Patriarch in his order dtd 3rd July 2017..Order is silent about Patriarch.
.It is said in the order that Patriarch is not any Authority to appoint Priest,Pralate, Vicar or even a Deacon in Malankara Orthodox suriyani Sabha. Sabha Should be managed by 1934 Constitution..
Referundum is in Malankara Orthodox suriyani Sabha Association. In Kerala Assembly the Majority is decided in Kerala Assembly among MLAs.Not in Jilla wise.Justice Mallimutt report is clear.
Tirumeni, put pressure on Pinarai Vijayan to Pass Malankara Church Bill immediately. Other wise one by one all the churches will go back to Orthodox Suriyani Sabha. Where is K.T.Thomas ?Where he has gone?7years had gone.
Tirumeni is not blaming Metran Kashi. GOOD.
TIRUMENI CHURCH BILL WILL NOT COME.
എൻ്റെ കൊച്ചി ശാന്തി കൃഷ്ണേ
എന്താ ഈ പറയുന്നത്
താങ്കൾ 1934 ഭരണഘടന അംഗീകരിച്ച് ബഹു. സുപ്രീം കോടതി വിധി അംഗീകരിച്ചതല്ലേ?
1934 ാം ഭരണഘടന ഒന്നാം ഭാഗം എന്തുകൊണ്ട് ഓർത്തോഡോക്സുകാർ അംഗികരികുന്നില്ല? പിന്നെ 34 എന്ന ഈ ഭരണഘടന പല പട്ടം തിരിത്തി ഏഴു തിയത് ആര് അംഗി കരിക്കാൻ
Tirumeni, Tirumeni file a Hargi in Supreme Court to direct Kerala Government to pass niyamam to solve the problem.
Tirumeni, many families are continuing in the Church. What they are telling is that Church they would.not leave. They are asking a question why we should leave the church?We were with Patriarch today also we respect Patriarch while continuing in the Church.
നിയമനിർമാണം കോടതി തള്ളിക്കളഞ്ഞൽ അടുത്ത യാക്കോബായ വിഭാഗത്തിൻ്റെ നടപടി എന്തായിരിക്കും
ഞങ്ങൾ കൂട്ടത്തോടെ അണ്ടിയോക്കയിലേക്ക് പായ്ക്ക് ചെയ്യും!!!
തള്ളിക്കളയില്ല. കോടതിതന്നെ പറഞ്ഞിട്ടുണ്ട് നിയമനിർമ്മാണം ആവാം എന്ന് 👍
അതിനായി അരുൺമിശ്രയ്ക്ക് ഒരു case കൊടുക്ക് 😄
In 1958 there was only one sabha.That is Orthodox sabha..
From the very beginning the Patriarch was not cosulting the sabha before taking any act.Patriyarc was not obeying Court order.
Arun Misira in 2018 dis missed a petition filed by some Jakobaya members praying to direct the Government to make niyamam for solving the problem in Malankara Sabha.
ആദ്യം കോടതി വിധി നടക്കട്ടെ
Tirumeni, How this situation came?Why Vattasseril Tirumeni was dismissed by Patriarch Abdullah without Show cause notice. First
Patriarch Should have given notice to Vattasseril Tirumeni for his dismissal. Patriarch Should have Consulted Malankara Jakobaya Association. Patriarch has shown High handedness on Malankar Sabhha.Court case went on.went on went on finaly landed in July 3rd judgment ❤
Tirumeni, if you want to remain as a Sabha you built new Churches. Then only you can remain as a sabhaa. All Churches will go to Malankara Orthodox Suriyani Sabha including Manarcadu ❤
Shameful,Shameful.
Tirumeni, you are Malankara Metropolitan Trusty of Jakobaya Suriyani Sabha without having old Churches. Constructed prior to 2002.
Tirumeni, you know what happened to the High Court Judge Who permitted your Kashi to perform prayer on time schedule basis in Kandanadu Church? Supreme Court asked asked the Judge Whether Kerala is not in India?Supreme Court Orders are not applicable for Kerala..
Government school not consider Orthodox Opinion.
These people are not serious. About Supreme Court.Then what to do?
Which Association granted Permission toFr.C.T Thomas,Perumpalli Fr.Gheevargheese and one more Kathanar to go to Turky and became Metran?They were not having the acceptance of the Syriyan Christian Community for Metran Abhishek am.So they got only unacceptable Consercation.
നമ്മൾ മാത്രം തീരുമെനി. We the members of the Malankara orthodox Suriyani Sabha abiding the 1934 constitution of the Malankara orthodox Suriyani Sabha. തിരുമെനിയും തോമസ് മാർ ദിവന്യാസിയോസ് തിരുമേനിയും (ഇപ്പോഴത്തെ ശ്രേഷ്ഠ കാതോലിക്ക ബാവ) പെരുമ്പള്ളി തിരുമേനിയും തിരുമേനിയും സേവേറിയോസ് തിരുമേനിയും തോമസ് മാർ അത്തനാസിയോസ് തിരുമേനിയും മിലിത്തിയൊ സ്, നിക്കോളവാസ് തിരുമ്മനിയും 1934 ഭരണഘടന അംഗീകരിക്കുന്നു സ്വീകരിക്കുന്നു എന്ന് സുപ്രിം കോടതിയിൽ ഏഴുതി ഒപ്പിട്ടു കൊടുത്തതല്ലേ? അങ്ങനെ നിങ്ങളെ മലങ്കര ഓർത്തഡോക്സ് നൂറിയാണി സഭയുടെ മെതാൻ മാരായി ചില വ്യവസ്ഥയുടെ അടിസ്ഥാനത്തിൽ സ്വീകരിച്ചു അങ്ങനെ നിങ്ങളുടെ മെതാൻ സ്ഥാനം അംഗികരിച്ചു. എന്നാൽ അത്തനാസിയോ സ്,മിലിത്തിയൊസ്, നിക്കൊള വാസ് എന്നീ മുന്നു മെത്രാൻ മാർ മാത്രമേ വ്യവസ്ഥ പാലിച്ചുള്ളു. അങ്ങനെ അവർ ഓർത്തഡോക്സ് സഭയുടെ മെത്രാൻ മാരായി സഭയിൽ താടുന്നു.
Supreme Court of India issued it's
Final judgment on 17th July 3rd. All members should obey the Supreme Court verdict. No other way..If you don't want to obey the Court verdict you leave the sabha and leave the church. Construct new Churches.
Can the1934 Constitution he cancelled by Niyama Nirmanam.?
You sumitted hargi in Court of Justice. Finally the Supreme Court given its judgment. After that CURATIVE PETITION IS EXAMINED..FINALY THE SUPREME COURT GIVEN A FINAL VERDICT WITH INSTRUCTION TO IMPLEMENT THE VERDICT forth with.Then how you expect Justice from Court
It is 100%SURE that Government will not bring any Bill to solve the Malankara Church problem. Government pased the Semitry Bill. because every body will support the Bill and Orthodox Sabha will not object it..
As far as Greegorios Tirumeni is concerned, Tirumeni can not live without Patriarch Bawa and Thomas Mor Dyanasious.
Where High court said to Government go ahead with Niyama Nirmanam?Where is the judgment?Nuisance.
Who is the owner of Piravam Church Tirumeni?Who is the owner of Mulanturuthy Marthoman Orthodox Church?Who is the owner of Odakkali Church?What happened to you Tirumeni?All the Chrches belog to Malankara Orthodox Suriyani Sabha. Formerly known as Malankara Jacobite Suriyani Sabha.
When ever you are having life in your body you fight.
The present dissident Jakobaya is the dissident of Orthodox Suriyani Sabha. Where as the present Yakobaya is dissident of Orthodox sabha. All are originated from Malankara Suriyani Sabha. From Nasrani to Marthoman Christians from Marthoman Christians to Jacobaya Suriyani Sabha, from Jacobaya one reformist group formed Malankara Marthoma Suriyani Sabha,One metran approached Pope and prayed to Pope that he wanted to to affiliates with Catholica sabha by keeping the Jacobaya Sabha kramam Pope agreed them to be in Catholica Sabha by keeping as a separate Reeth.Then in 1934 Malankara Jakobaya sabha Framed a Constitution and approved by Malankara Jakobaya Association held at M.D.Seminary. As per the Constitution the name of Jakobaya Suriyani Christian sabha Changed to Malankara Orthodox Suriyani Sabha.because Jakobaya is a name given by Catholica Sabha to tease us.But we belong to Oriental Orthodox Group. Patriarch Peter 3rd was also of the opinion in changing the name.
Tirumeni, accept Basaliose Marthoma Mathews 3rd as Catholcose and Malankara Metropolita. After Basaliose Marthoma Mathews 3rd Gregorios Tirumeni became Catholcose and Malankara Metropolita.
Tirumeni tell public you are accepting 1934 Constitution?
Why Orthodox suriyani Sabha is
adamant to implement 2017 Supreme Court Order?Had the Orthodox Suriyani Sabha was adamant to implement the 1958 Supreme court order.,the Malankara Orthodox Suriyani Sabha would not have faced this problem. Independent Church demand Supreme Court rejected .😊
In 1958 Supreme Court judgment the court pronounced that the Consercation of the first Catholcose of Malankara Jakobaya Suriyani Sabha H.H.Basalios Paulose was in order. The Constitution of 1934 Of Malankara Orthodox suriyani Sabha is accepted by Supreme Court..The Orthodox Suriyani Sabha is established in the Throne of St.Thomas. This was accepted by Antioch Patriarch. Patriarch accepted Catholcose Basaliose Gheevafgheese Second. The
Catholcose accepted Patriarch. Both the Faction became Malankara Orthodox suriyani Sabha. The Catholcose Basaliose Gheevafgheese Second became the undisputed Catholcose of Malankara Orthodox suriyani Sabha or Malankara sabha. The Malankara Association is reconstituted. On the death of Basaliose Gheevafgheese Second Catholcose in 1964 the Malankara Orthodox Suriyani Sabha Association elected Timothios Tirumeni to the Catholcose post and Consercated by the Patriarch Yakoob 3rd in 1964.The Sabha name of Sabha is established as
Malankara Orthodox Suriyani Sabha. Yakobaya Suriyani sabha name is no more.If any group is separated from the Sabha will be called DISSIDENT OF MALANKARA ORTHODOX SURIYANI SABHA. The present so-called Yakobaya Sabha is
Dissident OF MALANKARA ORTHODOX SURIYANI SABHA.
Tirumeni, why you are blocking Orthodox members. Tirumeni,you are a good Actor.
The Orthodox Suriyani Sabha does not wantt to divide the sabh.Mushtak get firing from Supreme Coury.Who is the Owner of Piravam Church?
Tirumeni, who denied Justice to you?Vattasseril Tirumeni or Basalios Augen Catholcose?Who told to take Refurendum?Supreme Court authorized to take referendum?Litigation is over. Without the authorisation of Malankara Orthodox suriyani Sabha Association how FR.C.T.THOMAS went to Damascus and got Consercate as Bishop Thomas Mor Dyanasious in 1974?There started the reason for second Split in the Malankara Orthodox Suriyani Sabha.
Tirumeni, you are doing contempt of court.They will moove thehargi to High Court.
Now Metran Kashi is not there.Now Malankara Orthodox Suriyani Sabha.
We are going to loose Kuruppum Padi St.Marys Orthodox Church also going to Malankara Orthodox Suriyani Sabha. Heavy loss toPatriyarch Kashi. One of the oldest Church.
Can't you forget and forgive?
Gregorios Tirumeni How can we believe in you?Tirumeni,in 2019 Justice Arun Misra of Supreme Court dismissed a petition filed by
Jacobite Sabha praying for giving directions.to Kerala Government to frame niyamam for Setling the issue Malankara Jakobaya Suriyani Sabha with Orthodox Sabha.
The Supreme Court Bench Headed by Justice Arun Misra dismissed the petition on the ground that Judgment was final. Even then you are pressurising Pinarai Vijayan to Pass a Bill for framing Niyamam for helping Jakobaya Suriyani Sabha. Fantastic Tirumeni.
Tirumeni, some people from your Church went to Pentacotal believef..Can they claim some propery before going to Pentacotal Faith Homes?
No noyama nirmanam.For your disobedience why Government should make law?
മെത്രാച്ചോ പോലീസിനെ കൊണ്ട് കഴിയത്തിലേൽ രാജ്യത് കേന്ദ്ര സേന ഉണ്ട് അത് ഇറക്കി ആയാലും കോടതി വിധി നടപ്പിൽ ആക്കി ഇരിക്കും 😢
Correct bro. 😊
Wrong decision you Santani 😠
Tirumeni, Abded Mesiha Antioch Patriarch came to Malankara and Consercated Paulose Mor Ivanios Sr.Metopolitan as Catholcose of the East. The Patriarch gave authority to Consercate Bishops and Catholcose and Mor one the use in Malankara. This was authenticated by giving Kalpana. The Malankara Metropolitan is the Metropolitan Trusty of the Sabha
Malankara Orthodox Suriyani Sabha is your sabha not sister sabha.You see the Supreme Court judgment.
Tirumeni is telling that there is High court order for passing Bill Then why Pinarai Vijayan is not making niyamam?wonderful Tirumeni
Tirumeni, For remving any mistake in Supreme Court there is a remedy.Submit a Curative petition.Then Supreme Court will examine it and necessary correction will be made by the Supreme Court. That opportunity also availed. No correction. So that opportunity also availed.Then what next?
Tirumeni, the Orthodox Sabha agreed that Antioch Patriarch is the head of Suriyani Orthodox Sabha. The Orthodox Sabha.agreed this in High Court in Justice Devan Ramachan Bench.Then What Happened?Nothing happened?Why?,You admitted in the 1958 case that By
Consercating a Catholcose in Malankara Sabha Metran Kashi they become a separate sabha worshipig against Patriarch. So the Metran Kashi informed the Court that we haven't gone away from the Jacobaya Suriyani Sabha. The
Antioch Patriarch only established a Catholicte that doesn't mean that we are gone away from the Church.?We are still in the Basaliose faith.So rhere no independent Sabha Catholcose agreed.
Sreshta Catholcose Long Live.
Tirumeni, you remember the story of Tower of Babel.
Why Bill?
In the 3rdJuly Supreme Court Verdict the Supreme Court dismissed the appeal.of K.S.Varghese nominee of DISSIDENT. Then Arun Misra gave an advice that further any difference Opinion comes that will be solved by dialogues if reqired by Ammending the1934 Constitution. Tirumeni, your group is not accepting the 1934 Malankara Orthodox Suriyani Sabha Constitution. Then how starts Dialogue?This 1934 Constitution is the problem really. Vattasseril Gheevafgheese Mor Dyanasious Tirumeni a clever and intelligent Saint Malankara Metropolita done a good thing.
Tirumeni no use waiting for Niyama Nirmanam by Kerala Government. Some of the members of Malankara sabha approached Supreme Court for giving directions.to Kerala Government to formulate legislation fordifusing the situation in the Malankara Suriyani Sabha. The Bench Headed by Justice Arun Misra dismissed the Petition 5 years back.
Believers are building Church building.Unless the building is Consercated by the Sabha Priest the building will not became Church. So the Church belongs to the Sabha. There should be a procedure to Manage the Church and its property.Regarding the management there is a Constitution framed by Malankara Orthodox Suriyani Sabha in 1934 called 1934 Constitution. All the Chrches belog to the Malankara Orthodox Suriyani Sabha should be managed by the 1934 Constitution. So as per Supreme court Verdict there are 2024 Churches are belog to Malankara Orthodox Suriyani Sabha. These
Churches are to be administrard by 1934 Constitution. If not Administered by 1934 Constitution
It should be managed by 1934 Constitution.
There are only two Metran coming to press .Greegorios Tirumeni and
Theophilos Tirumeni. Why other Tirumeni mar are not coming to press.?Let Thimothios Tirumeni Kottayam Metropolita not allowed to come before Press?
The idea of sister church should have been taken up in the year 1912 it self .Nobody will be evacuated from the Church The Malankara Jakobaya Sabha Catholcose was Consercated by Antioch Patriarch Abdul Mesiha. Abdul Mesiha Patriarch was the senior Patriarch. There was some conflict betwee the two.That we could not understand. At the same time there we're two Patriarch in Antioch
Tirumeni, what you said is correct it is very difficult to go like this. AFTTER SOMETIME YOUR SUPPORTERS WOULD NOT COME FOR BLOCKING ORTHODOX PEOPLE.?
You can believe in Patriarch no problem. But Patriarch can not appoint Vicars, priests, Prelates, to Malankara Orthodox Suriyani Sabha. That authority lies witn Malankara Orthodox Suriyani Sabha. In that way It is am independent Church. By this Consercation of Catholcose the Spiritual power of Patriarch in Malankara Sabha reached to a Vanishing point. So Patriarch can not interfere in the activities of Malankara Orthodox suriyani Sabha.