The Perfect Low-Cost Hobbyist Spray Gun Choice!
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- Опубліковано 8 лип 2024
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When you get old like me, the hard part is remembering where your overlap is
Brian, thank you for such informative videos, I have a 1955 GMC 2nd series short bed pu I've had for the past 45yrs, yes its the first vehicle I bought. You videos instill confidence and I would love to be able to paint it once it gets to that stage. As you always say " don't overthink it, its just paint."
A follow up vid using an FLG5 cap and comparing it to the Astro and Kiwami would be killer👍
Great breakdown of the gun, set up & technique.
As you mentioned, mileage will vary, depending on paint brand, type & mix %, depending on your environment.👏👏👏
Nice job.
I just got a new FLG 5 from the supply house. It lays down clear excellent I’m still working on adjusting for color. It’s a good gun .
You make it look so easy, great watching you.
Great lesson Brian!
I really appreciate this guys content he posts on his channel. A lot of hard effort and time goes into these videos, one of the most informative UA-cam creator's. He deserves a million subscribers.
Thanks again friend, I am learning a lot on your channel and about to have my first go at using a real paint gun. I restore dirt bikes and I'm going spray a steel frame.
Bought this gun about 12 months ago on advice from an UA-camr. I can say as a beginner, I got instant results out of the box and can agree with everything Brian said> Great video mate!!
As always thanks teach. I have been tosing up between an FLG and GPG so thankyou very much for this vid
I bought this same exact kit thinking I was getting an FLG5 but it comes with the HVLP cap. The FLG5 Transtech cap is the one to get. Its got a fairly wide fan and fine atomization. These are sold on ebay and other vendors from the UK usually. I had to buy the FLG5 cap seperate off ebay from the UK. The nice thing about this kit is the extra nozzle kits and the nice Devilbiss alum 900ml cup. The UK guns usually come with the FLG5 cap and a 600ml plastic genuine devilbiss cup with your choice of one nozzle set. I did notice that my gun had an air leak coming from the air valve behind the trigger. I ordered a service kit from the UK and replaced the seals. Its all fixed and with the good cap, its a great gun
Brian.. always love your videos & budget gun reviews! We need more turbine sprayer content!
Nice work. Great lesson. Thanks.
Brain thank you. I'm a beginner and I'm learning some great tips from you.
I have one of this gun over 5 years work well
Hands down the best instructor on UA-cam 😃👏
Wow, thanks!
I bought one of these around 18 months ago, as a quick go to gun. I’m a Sata and Iwata but in my apprenticeship days a had the original GTI and thought they were great. So the FLG I got the 1.4 and 1.8 and I wasn’t impressed. I tried alsorts of different settings, I didn’t like the fan size and generally couldn’t get on with it. I’d personally for a budget gun go for an Iwata W400 I’ve had one for years and it’s always been my go to budget gun and cannot find anything that matches for the price.
Great vids as usual
Been using the Flg5 for a year now, just picked up a dv1 and used it first time yesterday.
Found the dv1 to be quite intimidating over the flg...
That giant fan.....
I got that same gun with the 1.8 tip
Works well for primer and I got it cheap for like 120$ USD from a England website, was shipped to my house from England in 2 days
Best money spray gun I bought
I have one works great
Very impressive work!
I was hoping you would do a review on this. thank you so much
Good review and good explanation of what you are doing. Great overall.
Brilliant as always... Thank you for your expertise....
So nice of you
I have about 25 guns from $15 to 600. And i have to say 1.3 FLG5 is my favorite gun to use.
Mine too. Its my old reliable
The flg5 is a very good gun for the price......and easy to clean!!! But for a little bit more money you get the devilbiss gdp i mean and you could also spray all. The gdp looks like the gti pro lites you could take the air caps and nozzles from the gti pro lite also. The video is very well!!!!
That's the 693 HVLP version. The UK version (FLG5) has a transtech aircap, but only comes with one needle (1.3,1.4,or1.8) and the lower price including shipping reflects that. Fan is slightly bigger, but the atomization is very good even at 20 psi. Up to 30 psi it lays glass. The 693 isn't a bad package deal, but the transtech air cap outperforms it with lower air consumption.
Yep that's the gun I bought, agree 100%
Ya I got this same kit thinking I was getting an FLG5. Had to buy the cap seperatly. Nice cup tho. The cup alone is over 100 bucks seperatly. And you get 1.3,1.4, and 1.8 nozzle sets
@@MarcBchannel you still got a great set. With the HVLP & transtech cap with all the size tips, there's nothing you can't tackle with just one gun on a full respray. Primer, sealer, base, and clear. The FLG is certainly a quality built budget gun.
When I was looking for a beginner gun, I watched several review videos, but Brians one is the best of them. Happy with my choice (European version FLG5 with 1.3 nozzle). I do mostly rims, but I do struggle a bit with bigger panels, as I can't pump up the pressure over 21 psi. On the wall mounted water eliminator and pressure regulator I have 55-60 psi. 3 metres of 9mm inner diamater hose, devilbiss filter and sagola rc2 pressure regulator turned max, and still around 21 psi... I dunno what's wrong. Any ideas?
@csabakecskes4551 you simply have too much restriction on your feed line. Everything between the compressor and gun causes some loss including the hose if too small.
A 3/8" hose is better. High flow fittings (Prevost) is what I recommend to terminate the hose. Get rid of the water filter and extra gun regulator since you have one on the wall. You only need one good wall filter like a Motorguard M30 after a plain wall regulator (no filter/regualror combo). All of that you have is overkill and is more than likely the problem. It's also not just choking pressure, it's choking air volume, which is what really operates the gun.
Awesome info!
You mentioned it's not a show car and about the orange peel. We get that you do this for repairs...however..I would love to see you in action on an all steel car that is going to be a "show car"
Great job Master bryan.
Do the first clearcoat very quickly that’s good information from what I understand. Doing the first clearcoat very quickly. It’s just for making a glue base for the real second coat. Thank you ❤️
I like this review it's for average person!
Glad you finally did a review on the FLG5. I Bought one a few years back, great gun for the money. I am surprised that you feel the fan size is small, it's around 12 inches, same as the pro lite and just a bit smaller then the DV1. I use the 1.3, maybe the 1.2 is smaller. I bought it for base coat, but use it as a dedicated clear gun because of the great finish, I get with it.
I don't think it was a flg 5, which is a good gun. This was the flg I think. The flg 5 says that on the gun and this read flg.
Ya that kit doesnt have the FLG5 cap. And I dont think its a 1.2 tip. The kit comes with a 1.3,1.4, and 1.8. The FLG5 cap sprays good and wide
I use a FLG4 to paint these military colors from hentzel. They are some hard to spray colors for sure. Since I started using this gun it takes half the time to paint compared to the gun I use to use! The tan color always messes the guns up, but this one has been good so far. I always keep the front spray tip in some thinner.pve the gun or this paint!
Which one better flg4 or flg5?
Tengo esa pistola la uso para pintar y me funciona excelente saludos desde puerto rico 🇵🇷🇵🇷
gotta check that out
great job brother❤ thanks for share 😊
Lindo Lindo o serviço da sua pintura. Tenho 2 pistola dessa que gosto demais. Aqui no Brasil é a SGK600BV a mesma FLG5.
I hear these were originally made in Brazil. Are they still made in Brazil or in the UK?
@@MarcBchannel Agora são fabricadas no Reino Unido
Very impressive work! It goes without saying but very sorry to hear about your dad. Well done on the video tho, has my gears turning for sure!
I have this and i love it. I had trouble until i started following Paint Society for help. Now it works great. I am not a beginner so i knew enuf call and get a diff cap.
Now, "PERFECTO"
I honestly can't help but to think that every other video promotes buying a spray gun. Binks Model #7 ($65) vintage sprays paint just as good. My biceps can handle the extra weight of the gun (promise I can handle it) instead of a $200-$800 gun lol.
As always great video keep up the great work!
You are amazing brother
I use this as one of my sealer guns. Fantastic gun for the price, the only con is the TINY FAN. But thats about it. Flawless for years now.
I thought it was ok until I got a DV1, it’s now a primer only gun for me.
A DV1 is an extreme step up from this gun. This is a great primer gun and a fantastic sealer gun for smaller areas.
DV1 is awesome. I just dont have enough air for it at home. They spray real nice
Could you do a video on orbital sanders?
There’s not many videos on them from auto-body painters.
Some questions I have are;
-What’s a good orbit diameter?
-Electric corded, cordless, or air?
-If electric how important is variable speed?
-What’s a good rpm to choose?
-Do you have any preferred brand?
-And when to use/not to use it?
Making one now
thank you, you sold me that gun.
First good gun was flg3. Still habe it
A superior video A plus!😊
Thank you! 😃
hey Brian thnx for tht video cause I wanna do my honda van soon and I was looking around for at least two and some were outrageously too high or way too low jst something tht would do a great job and which gun tht was again lol I'm also right handed it works better for me but good job in explaining frm beginning to end
The also come in 1.3
Get a transtech air cap for that gun if its equipped with hvlp air cap, you get bigger fan and better atomisation. You will usena touch more paint, but the transtech style air cap is far better for beginners in my mind. And uses less air (hobbyist compressor..) HVLP aircap is "FLG 693" and transtech High Efficiency air cap is "FLG-5"
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Yup! What he said. FLG5 cap=More Gooder, FLG693=No Bueno
I use this gun all the time my favourite cheap gun
I thought it was the flg 5 after reading the comments realised it was a little different
Love your videos heaps of useful info
For about the same price i would go with a Kiwami 4 or Ani f160 instead. You made it work well.
Why is that? Hearing that this gun it comes with several tips seems enticing.
@MegaTamle I own all of the finish line guns except the 4 and 5. The best one is the 5. 35yrs of painting I learned that hvlp air caps and DIY with small compressors will perform poorly. The flg is hvlp. Unless you are doing a single panel or motorcycle you will struggle mostly with pressure dropping from not enough air supply and orange peel. Brian is a professional in a spray booth. I think you would be happier with a f160, flg 5 or Kiwami 4. The Iwata is built much better. They use less air and are not hvlp. Hvlp = high volume low pressure. HIGH Volume. I have a Iwata w400 Bellaria and a Devilbiss GPI. I'm not against Devilbiss at all. Both guns use 9.5cfm or less depending on psi I use. Bellaria I use for base and gpi for clear. I use dedicated guns for certain materials. I have dedicated primer guns too. My flg guns due to them not performing nearly as well as the others. My advice is go to HF and get some cheap guns for primer, it gets sanded anyway.
@MegaTamle let me clarify, the flg 5 is trans tech. It's not hvlp the other flg guns are hvlp. You most likely will have to order overseas for flg 5. I believe the current gun marketed in USA as the flg is the hvlp version of the flg 5.
Lol while you were putting on the gear it reminded me of MR. Roger…
A good gun..
How do you know how to mix your paint? Where do you buy the plastic & tape?
SURPRISE...SURPRISE.....How 'bouts a review for the HARBOR FREIGHT Spectrum PPS cups and adapter for their cheap guns for the DIY'r.
For just a quick clean job AND I don't to MARRY an expensive system!
BTW, ur videos are outstanding!
Thanks
Keep the wicked content coming @PaintSociety Brian, have you had a chance to test out the FLG-5 spray cap?
Soon!!! Ty
been following you for a while now. how do you know how much a panel consume? like how much clearcoat do one need to mix up for lets say a bumper or a hood/door? any guidelines
Wonder if the fan would be wider on the 1.4?
@Paint Society Hey Bryan, how many CFM for this one? Do you think it would work well with a smaller compressor/air system?
This is kinda out of topic but I tried looking on your Chanel for a video for the best low pressure output paint gun? I want to paint my car but I don’t have a huge compressor
How is the devilbiss starting line 3 gun kits? I know they are not stainless internally so maybe not for waterborne paint? Or waterborne if you keep it clean?
What is a good primer gun.?
Great video, I had in mind or what spraygun to buy. The problem is i need it to spray silverish pewter metallic i was wondering if the small fan will be a problem.
I would recommend a better gun than this for silver metallics.
Def a nice spraying gun, but that fan is about the size of a touchup gun. Sure takes alot of passes to clear those panels.
Shop around.
My wife asked me what the best guns are.
I gave her a list.
I now have 5 new guns, 2 new compressors and I quit painting 10 years ago.
My wife never paid over $100 for each of them, new.
A few she only paid $30 for.
My Paasche airbrush gun was $20 with a new compressor.
Shop around !
Or come to one of my yard sales 😂
Brian have you reviewed the Atom X 20 and 27 lvlp spray guns?
Great gun but I used it mostly for primer.I found the spray pattern is a bit too small for me
Have this
1.8 and use it simply for small prime jobs.
Definitely, save up and spend the $700 for toppy.
If guns are always cleaned properly, they'll last you 10yrs
Which is better. That or the iwata kiwami
Opinion on the '3M Performance Spray Gun' starter kit as a first gun?
Devilbiss flg or Master Pro 44 ?
Quick question please: I'm DIYing my car panel, nighthawk black, for some reason it starts off black then as i put more coats, and 15mins later, it has a strong brown tint!? It dries brown
There is a big light glaring on to it, from the ceiling could it be the heat causing it to oxidise perhaps?
Or would clearcoat resolve this?
Anyone? Please?
Thanks
I need a mini gun, can you recommend one. Ty
What do you think about the devillis GPG gun
That gun shoots better with higher pressure.. it might sound crazy but when I shoot clear with that gun @35psi it comes out close to glass finish.
Not gona lie will choose this gun vs iwata super nova
Isn't it considered the finish line gun hence FLG?
Ive just bought a compressor and a spray gun. On the spray gun you put a gauge but do u put on the gauge a filter to stop water going through? Really stuck on this. Can anyone HELP please
Have you ever tried any of the astro pneumatics euro pro hvlp spray guns? As a older painter used to suction guns and not wanting to spend a lot I've found they work good for me.
Did you watch the end of the video ?
@@PaintSociety yes almost as soon as I hit send I saw it. I have bought different tips from astro and for what I paid for the gun I bought one for primer and another for clear . Really get a lot of information from you. I started painting before computers and am just now getting back into it so I really appreciate the tips.
My friend, is there a difference between the UK-made FLG rifle and the Brazilian-made rifle?
would you ever review a chinese aliexpress gun? they cost 70-100 USD and some are clones of the DV1
Has anyone used the Kirker piant kit
Nice review as always. For $200, are their any other guns to consider in this price range or is this the one?
Astro pro euro blue
Where does the Sharpe Finex FX3000 place?@@PaintSociety
Would that spray gun work good whit a 30 gallon air compressor to do a car hood and fender
Doubt it. It's good on air, but not that great. It's going to use about 10cfm but if you can supply what it needs it will lay glass with ease
Brian I noticed you mentioned you're not full trigger on the base and clear...does this help with wasting paint/overspray? I've been going full trigger on my Kiwami and the finishes have been great being a first time painter. I just feel like im wasting more paint than necessary 🤔
I don’t pay too much attention to exactly what I do all the time with the spray gun but if it’s working for you then stick with it.
@@PaintSociety Rajah dat 🤙 I learned so much from your vids and still continue learning 👍👍 thanks!!
There are so many FLG variants out there, I can't tell if this is the same one that 'The Gunman' always talked about (only found it on Aussie sites) FLG5 (905171) wondering what the difference might be.
There's only two gravity fed FLG that's current. The 693 is the HVLP one, avoid it. The FLG5 comes with the #5 transtech cap and is the one to target. Basic gun but real easy to setup... wide open fan and fluid at 29-35 psi. Moderate speed and it doesn't overload the clear
What kind of gun can I use with a 2.6cfm compressor ?
Only mini touch up guns come to mind. Iwata LPH80 1.2mm tip with E4 cap is nice. Uses less than 3cfm. Cant spray a whole car or large panels. Small parts and maybe fenders
Are you old enough to remember when dealers tried to charge extra for clear coat on their invoices? Seems to me that was a thing quiet awhile back and I recall no one would or wanted to pay for what seemed to be something that wasn't ask for or wanted. Was it the same clear coat we use today? Or was it just another dealer scam to take more money from buyers?
On average how paint is needed for a Honda Accord? Someone told me 1 gallon?
Is the Europro Astro a H827?
I think the h827's go for
"It sits around 200 bucks on amazon, so it's really a budget friendly gun"...
Then there's me, with a 35 dollar gun blaming about orange peel, lol.
How it compares to the cheaper R500😊?
No comparison. I wouldn't want to use the R500 on completes. You'll lose your wet edge too easily and will have to turn the pressure up to get the mils for a wetted out smooth coat which will result in more paint usage and excessive overspray. The FLG5 with 1.4 can handle 28-35 psi without paint waste and bad overspray. It will also lay glass much easily . The caveat is the flg5 is a little heavier in the hand, but nothing terrible.
If you had $200 to spend would you get this gun or two astros, a 1.3 gun and a 1.9 for primer?
1.3 astro and a cheap hf for primer
Hi I would like to spend about 100 or less what would be good just painting a hood that’s it
A610
Amazon saying gun is currently unavailable?
I checked the link in the description. Says “10 left”
I want a video about dangers of painting a car esp chances of getting cancer.
Brian,
Just noticed it looks like your shirt is drenched. Is your paint room that hot or do you sweat like me??
4 shirts a day I go through. It’s hot down here in south Florida !
@@PaintSociety I wondered where you were located. I'm trying paint my Silverado. No experience at all. Nothing for you to be concerned about.
Buen video saludos desde el estado de guerrero
You should really consider a fresh air mask, clear coat especially is really bad for your eyes….sata fresh air masks are the best in my opinion
I was wondering. Did you mean 1.2 fluid tip.
I looked on your list it say 1.3 smallest. Could you send me gun #. Flp. And # thank for you very helpful toe greg
I gotta double check. It could have been 1.3. My eyes aren’t the best for small numbers. Just check the description on Amazon