Story 1: I actually read this story on Reddit the other day and there is an update. OP had a talk with his daughter. Apparently the daughter admitted taking some vitamin but not everything that had "disappeared" from the drawer. Both of them soon come to the realization that the wife most likely had an affair and cried together. The daughter got to that conclusion before he did, which was why she was awkward around her father. OP didn't elaborate on it though as he wanted to keep it private.
The Husband (from the first story): “Hey, honey, I noticed that the vitamins were deplenishing rather quickly and was wondering why. Is everything okay? Should I be concerned?” The Wife: “HOW DARE YOU ASK ME SUCH INVASIVE QUESTIONS AND MAKE SUCH INFLAMITORY ACCUSATIONS! YOU’RE INSANE! I CAN NO LONGER TRUST YOU!” Well if he wasn’t suspicious before, he should be now.
Assuming he's being accurate in his retelling, I would guess that her overly evasive response was because she was trying to protect her daughter's privacy and got flustered because she couldn't. I wouldn't be surprised if she was frustrated by her own inability to keep a secret more than his probing - which is why the response seems excessive to him. She was responding to herself more than she was responding to him.
People are saying in the update that the wife was actually cheating and the daughter found out when the dad asked her why she’d been taking so many of the sex supplements when they’re greater towards older women so she immediately realized her mom was cheating and her and the dad cried together having both realized after that
Story 6: what kind of mental gymnastics do you have to do to get mad at your family for not telling you mom died when you didn’t answer your phone. 😂 what?! He is the a-hole and his wife is worse.
I wonder .... Is there some phone calls anxiety on the side of the brother and his wife, where some set boundaries constantly crossed so it turned into this absurd situation. The message " call me it's urgent" is vague. Why didn't she put the mother's death into the first message instead of "it's urgent". I know it sounds stupid but as a person anxious about calls I sort of understand but yeah, demanding apology is over the top. It's kinda petty on both sides.. he won't answer the phone and she won't put the full info into the message, none of them.
@@Acinnn multiple calls from different members of the family but not one call from mom who usually calls weekly? Even if she was the type to say urgent even when it’s not you can clearly tell that’s not the case here. At least pick up once and if they start bullsh*ting hang up.
I disagree. My hot take: I smell a rat when it comes to the OP and their family. I've seen more than enough evil in-laws successfully twist the story to make their DIL look evil that I was immediately on my guard with this story. OP says that Anne had an issue with their family crossing boundaries...and then conveniently sidestepped clarifying what exactly it was that their family did. Phone calls 2-3X a week can be a LOT if these calls were going up to an hour. Adding weekly dinners on top of it - and I can see why Anne might be overwhelmed and upset, especially if the family isn't nice to her. Also, it's very telling that OP and the family didn't ONCE clarify to their brother in their many texts and voicemails that "Hey, mom's not doing well, respond asap." I'm sorry, but if your mom suddenly collapses or something happens, that's not the time to be like "Nooooo, I can only tell him in person." They should have IMMEDIATELY relayed the info that Mom was ill or that Mom was hospitalized. It seems like the family was intentionally testing the brother to see if he'd reply, and I'm sorry, but to test your family member at such a time implies spitefulness. Could Anne and Michael (or whatever his name was) be evil and awful? Sure, maybe. We never know the true story. But that's exactly why my gut is telling me OP isn't relaying the whole story. They didn't convey even ONE of Anne's complaints with their family and I wonder if everyone's tune would change if Anne suddenly made a post and was like "They're horribly mean to me, his mom called 3X a week for two hour calls, we had to have weekly dinners or all hell would break loose...I felt like I was trapped and was losing my frickin mind." I'm sorry for OP that they lost their mom, but dying doesn't make someone a saint. I really want to know Anne's specific complaints with the family. I feel like only then can we really determine if she's TA.
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The first story had an update. The wife was cheating and the daughter found out about it and was going through it trying to figure out how to tell her dad.
Eh that’s a little misleading it’s not confirmed that she’s cheating but dad and daughter speculate. Also the sex drugs are supplements that help relive symptoms of menopause
A lot of people in the comments on both posts mentioned the vitamins OP mentioned are ones that help with menopause symptoms. So there is a possibility that could be what's going on and the wife is too embarrassed to tell OP.
@@FukaiKokoro most people I know that aren't in a same sex relationship know about the "turkey baster method" but your telling me a lesbian couple that has already gone through IVF doesn't know about the turkey baster method? Plus most lesbians would choose a turkey baster over a penis. So why are they so determined to have sex? It's super suspicious
You missed your mother’s funeral and you want an apology for not answering your phone. That’s so effed up. The dad saying he lost his wife and son is spot on.
Yeah, I definately disagree with the comment about sister. This is a choice she has to make now, him or the rest of the family, because she's pushing it too far trying to make out that they are in the wrong. Clearly something urgent had happened or the whole family wouldn't have called him so much saying its urgent, he chose to ignore it, she's now choosing him
I saw yesterday that Charlotte posted that she was on a THT episode! I kept checking to see if it was posted and got the notification this morning. I was so excited for my lunch break!!!
Last story. You dont get to vacation from your family. Work out things like breaks. If money isn't an issue hire a nanny to help. 7 weeks away is insane.
The game story with the cheating mom-One mom targeted another with ill intent. The other made a poor choice and is suffering the consequences. I’m more worried about a person that targets people with ill intent for entertainment, over the person that makes poor choices that mostly affect themselves and their partner( cheating). As the couple, my mom isn’t going to cheat on me so it’s not my issue. The mom that targets people with ill intent for entertainment- is a however a concern. 🚩
This is exactly what I was going to comment. I hate cheaters and I think OPs mom will and should suffer those consequences. However, she made a horrible decision due to someone manipulating her and using her insecurities against her. They were TARGETING HER. Ops mother in law targeting her in order to cause mayhem and possibly to get OP to break up with her fiancé and ruin her life. One was out of malice, the other what out of insecurity and poor decision making. One is not the same.
Story 4: "his divorce is costing him a lot of money" OH POOR BABYYYY. Imagine the mental and emotional cost your partners are going through because of your affair
story 7: i think it’s strange that he said he felt she deserved a break, then afterwards was upset that she took a break. also 7 weeks is a v long vacation, but it feels like a rly short amount of time to fully fall out of love w your life partner
Right and did no one find it odd that he went out of his way to talk about what a great person he was? It seemed like he was being deliberately obtuse about stuff. I would love to hear mom’s side.
Doesn't take a year for someone to show they've lost interest in you. This goes for both the husband and wife. Adding the context of the wife only contacting 2 times in 7 weeks from the thread. People have their "icks", and neglect is one even if both parties don't find it valid.
I have 2 children, my husband and I both work full time. We are a pretty good team but it is still hard at times. If my husband told me he needed a nearly 2 month break from our lives I'd probably be done too. Unless there is more the story like a serious mental health situation I would be pretty resentful. If this was necessary for a health reason for either one of us we would pre arrange help...even If it was just a couple weeks.
My husband has been away a lot for work recently, but he checks in EVERYDAY and we both express love, concern and affection for each other daily. I can't imagine a world where someone just feels comfortable leaving 2 babies and a committed partner they want to have a functional relationship with for nearly 2 months with an average of only 1 call per month.... and think there will be no hard feelings or big conversations to be had upon return. I also can't imagine there not being several steps between acknowledging that your wife needs a vacation because 2 consecutive pregnancies and raising 2 infants without a single break has been hell on her physical and emotional health.... experiencing a fraction of that physical and emotional drain yourself, so you have an even deeper understanding of what she was going through to lead her to the demand for vacation.. and just not even wanting to talk it out. Straight to divorce. Straight to "I don't love you. Bye." That sounds incredibly callous. Both ends of this story feels devoid of crucial information. Without that information, both the wife and husband sound inhuman. Like neither of them ever gave a hoot about the other or their babies. And that's clearly not the case for the wife, if she's grasping at straws to save their marriage. It's weird weird. Readers are forced to come up with conjecture like PPD, inpatient rehab, neuro-divergence... otherwise, the math doesn't math. People who are committed enough to marry and have more than one child (which implies intentional family building) don't just behave that way. Way too much is invested to just have that level of abandonment be performed by both partners.
Story 2 my mouth dropped! Im a two time IUI and one time IVF, i did at home insemination with my ex wife to have my youngest daughter and it was super simple and easy. This was before the kits were as accessable and we just used a baby medicine dropper. We got pregnant the FIRST try so he should definitely try that first 😅
I can’t get over the last story, he was expected to take care of two infants while SIMULTANEOUSLY working full time and forbidden from using daycare or child care services AND taking care of household duties for seven weeks straight. OF COURSE HE NEEDED HELP they are two babies and he is actively working. And wife only called twice??? In two months??? Bananas.
Yeah idk what they were thinking on this one. Kids are a 2 person job even if you are a stay at home parent. I've worked jobs that have made me insane without children, to add children on top of that with no one else to help take care of the house while having a full time job sounds insane. And to have so little contact for 7 weeks? That just isn't fair to him. If he doesn't do anything around the house normally, I could understand her going on a trip for like a week or 2 to make him understand how difficult it is but holy hell almost 2 months of nearly zero contact would kill my interest in someone for sure.
Yeah, I feel like there we're missing reasons he skipped over. He said it was taxing "for her", which implies to me she shouldered most if not all of the childcare among other things. Also, Irish twins suggests he didn't give her much of a break before having unprotected sex with her after childbirth. Just... some info and context I feel like we're missing. Would love to hear her side. @hollyjones-ey3ih
I have a friend who refers to her friend as "my gay bestie" and even though she's bi I'm like.... I hope I'm not her "half black bestie". Sheesh.... I do not describe ppl by their sexual orientation.... But I don't feel like it's my place to police how she engages her community.
Story 3: Honestly, I think everyone's focusing way too much on who's wrong. That's distracting, because obviously the mother is wrong for cheating. The real issue, however, is that the MIL is demented. Do you want to live your whole life connected to this person? Give her access to your children?? What kind of mind games will she play with them? Honestly, I don't think I could marry into a family like this. Also, so awesome to see Charlotte!!
Yeah I agree but op is being hypocrite. She victimising her mother. Both mother are disgusting, if you’re cutting out one then you should cut out the other.
I think the difference is that, while I would never look at my mother the same, cheating happens a lot. What doesn't happen often, is someone convincing another man to sleep with a married woman just because she hates the woman's son. That is psychopathic
@@riahw3750 I think that was a bad word choice. It's possible and definitely sounds like ( considering the circumstances ) he pushed and instigated with the mother more than she reciprocated. Doesn't mean that the mother is innocent and I'm sure op knows this but it is her mother after all and her fiancés mother is the instigator in this and the mil bf. Also we've no idea how low her self-esteem is or what her relationship is like with her husband. It's highly likely he manipulated her knowing how low it was! Doesn't make it right. But I'd call that a form of abuse, right! He took advantage of her. Anyways that's just my take on the info we have.
Did everyone miss in the last story the part where the OP said he did not end up missing his wife and was actually feeling more relaxed without her around? That alone had to be majorly eye-opening for him. Why would he want to stay with someone he doesnt enjoying having around?
I think he misses the labor his wife provided, hence why he's crying after 1 week. But once that labor was taken over by his sister, he didn't miss her anymore. Just my take on it.
@@ainkulu I think it's more a case of he stopped loving her/noticed that he had stopped loving her once they weren't around each other anymore on a daily basis. And if the only thing that kept him in love with her was physical proximity, then clearly the relationship was already in trouble before she left, they maybe just didn't know it yet. It also sounds like he doesn't need free labour and could easily afford a nanny and/or cleaner so I really don't think that that's it.
On story 7, He was having a crappy time work and she was having crappy time at home. She deserved a vacation yes but now he was alone with two newborns and work. Being alone with all that pressure I would be breaking down in tears too
Story 4, I feel like the wife was so concerned about the affair partner losing money because she wanted to move on with him. Lol. Cause now he broke and she doesn’t want a broke man haha
Mom died sorry is so sad. My partner and I speak to our parents daily. I would never discourage a healthy parent/child relationship. Also, love this mashup… THT and Charlotte! ❤
I probably would have dropped the ‘mom is dead’ news via text or voicemail if I hadn’t reached him by the day of the funeral. Bro & wife are delusional to think that they were owed an apology.
Depends on your culture though. Like for example, in my culture, we don't tell something like that via text. When my grandma passed I was at work. My family also called me a bunch of times and texted me that they need to have private conversation with me. Then after I got on the phone with them, they told me the news.
With the irish twins story: i understood it as “my wife and i have separate duties: i bring in income and handle childcare as much as i can, and my wife manages the household and children when i cannot.” I understood it as “im suddenly a single parent with no assistance or backup and im struggling! (As many do) i got help from my sister and we took care of the kids and it wasn’t as stressful.” I think the frustration is 100% valid, especially if there is a *choice* to stay or go and when he asked for the trip to be shortened. If it was a sudden death that would be different, and possibly more difficult, but essentially thats what she did. She pretended to be dead to the family.
100%. I’m a stay at home mom with three little kids and went away for a week last year. I’d rather have every weekend off for two months than be away from my family. After a year i realized I just needed more support during kids bedtime and I’m able to cope with everything so much more
Oh 100%, it’s extremely rare that both parents are 50/50, there’s going to be a default parent. My husband is EXTREMELY involved, but i wfh with 2 toddlers and if i up and left? He’d be pulling his hair out. It’s a huge adjustment.
Agreed...just having someone around (even if they are working) is better than not there at all. Peronsally, I could never leave my son for more than a week, 7 weeks is very long and only calling twice is bizarre.
Yes!!! I don’t think they are understanding that this man had literally no “off” time my wife and I have a 10 month old and she needed to leave for 1 week for a conference and that was exhausting. Luckily I was able to drop him off at daycare during the week. I would 100% feel completely abandoned if she had taken 7 weeks to just get away from us.
@@TwoHotTakesthis is so exciting! Thank you both this is what we needed!!! I would also love to see one with you, Charlotte, and Sophia from okop! And/or you, Justin, Laura 0:12 Alejandra with the whole ok op gang lol I think it would be fun.
1:23:45 I can understand why she would need a vacation BUT 7 weeks is crazy! The difference between the husband is the fact that he wasn’t just the only one caring for their kids. He was caring for their kids AND working. The one week was a lot harder for him because he also had to work. It’s hard to get all your work done while you’re caring for 2 very young kids. Add in the pressure to meet all your deadlines because if most people miss their deadlines for 7 straight weeks you will likely get into trouble going into some kind of disciplinary action, losing your higher leveled position, or maybe even your job completely. His wife didn’t allow him to have any babysitter at all. Imagine filming your shows with a one and two year old. They constantly need something from someone. I think you lovely ladies are being a little paranoid. SHE DIDN’T EVER CALL HIM BACK.
No, I agree with them. We're only getting the husband's side of the story. He is definitely giving off the vibes of someone who is not a hands-on dad. That comment about how his sister suddenly had a purpose in life by becoming the kids' nanny is a red flag. Yes, she's an absolute angel for stepping up when he was overwhelmed, but it's still HIS job to parent the kids, not the aunt's. I do agree that 7 weeks is a long time, but again, we haven't gotten wife's side of the story. Maybe 2 straight years of pregnancies and newborn care really caused a mental breaking point from which it would take months to recover. We've all heard those horror stories of overwhelmed mothers who snap and harm themselves and/or the kids. She was also probably feeling unappreciated. Given how quickly he fell out of love with her, it certainly feels justified that she tried to make him realize how hard it all was by leaving him alone with the kids. Unfortunately, it had the opposite effect. This couple should probably divorce since they are doing such a terrible job taking care of each other.
I came all way the Apple Pods to rant abt the last story: THIS MAN DISCOVERED WHAT IT WAS TRULY LIKE TO BE A HANDS ON PARENT AND BAILED. He gets no credit from me. Sure it was not great for the wife to leave for 7 weeks (boo hoo) , but for him see that as a betray and not a moment of reflection on how hard it is to be the default partner is A RED FLAG. This man is NOT a supportive partner.
Story 5 has me worried. If the incident happened when she was freshly of age, that man most likely was grooming her when she was much younger. I would tell her parents and tell her she needs therapy/marriage counseling if she wants to make the relationship work.
That last story... I don't think it's fair to say that he was struggling doing the same amount of work as a stay at home mom, he was doing full time stay at home parent, and full time work. With 3 kids between 1-4. She was certainly not doing all that work before. 7 weeks of doing full time parenting and full time work shouldn't be expected of any body.
Not to mention she's against daycare? Like wtf. You can't just abandon your family like that. He probably fell out of love as a defense mechanism to protect himself if she left again.
1:25:16 Father of Irish twins here. If their mom left them with me for 7 weeks and the kids were 1 & 2 years old, that’s a full time thing. That’s a LOT of work. No way I could do it alone while also working. But I wouldn’t want to be away from my kids for that long either. If their mother was having mental health issues, I would have asked her about them long before it would get to “7 week vacation” level.
This! 100% all of this! Mother of nearly Irish twins here. My grandpa died when my youngest was 1.5. I was away for a week (because my family lives 2 days drive each way) while my poor husband had to move with babies. He did great, but then he didn't have to work that week as it was moving/vacation before new job week. I would never expect him to work from home and care for our kids by himself even now that they are much older and more self-sufficient. As additional opinion context, he went to Antarctica for his job for 4.5 months one time when our kids were 4 and 5. He wouldn't have dreamed of doing that when they were 1 and 2. I worked part time, one kid was in full day kindergarten while the other was in half day Pre-K and it was still pretty difficult. I literally could not have worked full time and managed. (Maybe with childcare?). I think this man should try the marriage counseling just to work on holding his boundaries and learn why he was unable to firmly say, "no more than x weeks away." Also, maybe offer the wife other respite options, mental health support, or something to help her cope before agreeing to 7 weeks of vacation!
@@positivecynic365 Reading your story, I totally relate. I mean, I wish my job sent me to Antarctica, that sounds awesome, but that dual baby struggle is real. Childcare-wise, I got very lucky that the grandparents could watch them three days a week, and we could afford day care for the other two work days. If my kids’ mom was feeling run so ragged that she has to take that long of a vacation, then it’s definitely a breakdown of communication, and would be downright obliviousness on my part.
I am wondering if the "Spend Time With Friends" was code for "Spent time with Ex" - and Husband is coming to terms with it (without throwing the mother of his children under the internet bus)
If she was going to be gone for so long back up child care should have been communicated. Like his aforementioned sister, or a temporary nanny, but like I said it has to be thoroughly communicated, as a mother of two kids who are really close in age I could not be as irresponsible or as unbothered as her. He did make it sound like he pawned off his kids on his sister, I hope he helped when he could/his sister really needed him.
Words can not express the EXCITEMENT I felt seeing Charlotte post about this this morning!! I always tell my bf all I need in life is for morgan and charlotte to come together and I will be perfectly happy!!! I LOVE MY PETTY POTATO QUEEN
27:33 As an affair baby, Morgan you are 100% right. My sperm donor is just that, but the man who raised me, even after he divorced my mom, is my dad. I will never consider my sperm donor as a dad to me, in fact my step dad was more of a father and always will be. I’ve know this for about 3 decades and just had it confirmed, I can’t come to terms with telling my dad I know everything. I don’t want to hurt him but to me he is the best dad in the world because knowing everything he still chose me and raised me just like his other blood children.
Yes, 30 phone calls sounds urgent... however, maybe they're so delulu they thought "Ugh, the family is just trying to be petty." If someone didn't answer 30 phone calls, I would likely be texting that news. Like, well I tried to get a hold of you verbally 30 times and you refused, so, Mom's dead. Come home if you want to be at her burial.
Same! Yeah it's not something you ideally want to say over text but if they don't pick up the phone I wouldn't have another option. I wouldn't have even wanted to take the time to call as many times as OP did at all actually, after that attitude
Is it just me or does anyone get the feeling maybe the controlling wife had hold of his phone and might have cleared the missed call notifications and deleted the texts? That would then explain why the brother is so upset they never told him his mum was dead. In which case the family need to find a way to rescue him from this psychopath.
@@AB-ot1pvwe also don’t know where they went on holidays. Yes he should have answered his phone, however, if they were overseas they may have been out of range. But so far the biggest AH is the wife, it reeks of controlling behaviour.
This was the exact thing I was thinking! Yes they tried, but not a single text or voicemail after all those failed attempts? And the brother found out through a text anyway afterward! So instead of getting the less ideal version while still having time to maybe go to the funeral, he finds out by text after he already missed it.
Story 6 - my husband calls his family several times a week and I talk to them everytime too. Seems very normal to me. Wild that thats seen as out of the norm
Story 1, the meds are probably to help with perimenapause symptoms, they've been married for 25 years, she is probably 50 or so. Lubricil is for 'dryness' issues that can come with horomone weirdness.
Yes! This is the part they’re missing. The wife’s reaction is still a bit of an overreaction but I could understand not wanting my dad to know that I have dryness issues at 25 (or any age really). It’s not that they don’t want the dad to know she’s sexually active-she’s 25 of course she is. It’s that they don’t want him to know the details about her sexual health
I don't understand this story. Why isn't the 25 year old daughter buying her own stuff? She's 25, she probably has a job and her own money and suplements don't cost that much. Why is the mom reacting so strongly? It would make sense if the daughter was a teenager and the mom would try to protect her from a more rigid conservative father, but again she's 25. It shouldn't be such a big secret between the parents. The mom could have just explained and the dad could have pretended not to know his daughters business. The story makes no sense at all.
Yeah this was one of the main conclusions in the actual comments on Reddit when I saw this post. Clearly the wife is likely going through early menopause and is uncomfortable/embarrassed to say anything. And I can understand why when the dude tries to corner her in a restaurant to get info and jumps to cheating first when some stuff is missing.
As a trained psychologist we are taught not to confront a client in couples therapy but try to empower the couple to stand up for themselves. Unless it is going to cause harm to themselves or others you are not suppose to confront them. Hopefuĺy the counselor tried to empower the husband and perhaps get the wife to see reason. It can and is a very hard road to walk.
But I've also heard of therapists in psychologists actually calling people out. I mean, are there different ways to approach these issues? And, if you don't mind me asking, what made you get your PhD and not just your masters? And did you do both? I'm sorry but I'm trying to make that decision right now.
Totally!! Love seeing this from a counselor. I've seen one too many clinicians who like to take sides, and I often side eye them pretty hard due to that. As a person who often seeks different types of therapy and needs it to function, I would hate to have that be the approach a clinician would use in session. Plus I don't see how alienating yourself from one client in a partnership- in order to get your own emotions all mixed up in THEIR dynamic to "defend" the other partner- would really help anyone. It's also important from what I understand to remember that a clinician can be pretty wrong about what they think they're seeing. You might as a counselor have it all wrong, and it would really suck as a client to have a counselor tell you that you're wrong and "call you out", when maybe you're an abuse victim behind the scenes, or there's just a ton more to the story that would change your mind about your defensive feelings of a certain client. You're there to help us navigate our own relationships, not harm us and get all mixed up in our relationship dynamic.
Hi, I'm a psychologist, too. First off, there indeed is a method to "confront" clients - but not in the way you probably mean. Done so when they are stabilized and in a controlled manner, with phobias or OCDs etc. But in general, we wouldn't (at least shouldn't) affront you with our assumptions/prejudices, we rather paraphrase or use specific kinds of questions to assist you sorting out your own thoughts and feelings or other people's views or support you defining your solutions resp. goals and such. Hope I could help a little (and was understandable, English is not my mother tongue).
I’m actually conflicted with the conclusion of the last story…cuz op said he did work full time and I’m not belittling sahms but it was obviously a huge pressure put on him all of a sudden and the fact that he wife won’t be there for a couple of weeks prolly took a toll on him mentally(who knows🤷🏻♀️) and (without considering the fact that wife might be in a rehab center) I feel like contacting him two times in all of those 7 weeks??? That’s crazyyyyy and also we can’t forget the fact that they came to an agreement only for her to go on the vacation for a couple of weeks…for context let’s just think it was ‘4 weeks’ so after the initial time has passed he prolly slowly gave up of wife bc he already had a support system(the sister) which is mind boggling but I mean it’s fascinating how the human brain works🥹 but yea I think we should give op some grace rather than calling him an ah no matter the situation
Agreed. It sounded like he finally caved to her doing the full 7 weeks but still. To be gone that long and only call twice as nuts. If she was in a facility she still should have told him what was going in. this sounds like a coping strategy to me. i hope counseling works for them both.
@@dinuliedirisinghenot true Please don’t just think that “OH IF THE ROLES WERE REVERSED THEYD BE ON THE GUYS SIDE” like no they wouldn’t. Ive seen almost this exact scenario IRL with a guy going on a vacation and leaving his wife and kids for a long time and everyone was saying the same mental health things that he deserved a break bc mental health is serious, and yes the mom worked. Men aren’t actually that pressured to help their families.
@@Imjustkendall I might have to disagree on that one with you cuz this sounds a lot like a patriarchal society that you live in(most of us do) caused this cuz I feel like us as listeners in the podcast ‘try’ to give both of the parties involved equal treatment as much as we can so I really do feel like we’ll def call him an ah and an absent parent if the roles were reversed
For the last story, if my partner pretty much ghosted me and my kids for 7 weeks (yeah, she called twice, but that's kinda pathetic), I also might fall out of love with them. Relationships take upkeep, you can't always just put them on a shelf and come back to them in the same state they were when you left.
The man from Story 4 isn't whining... he had a full time job on top of his 24/7 role to manage the household and take care of his kids. I work from home but could never manage my 8-5 while caring for a 2 and 1 year old simultaneously. These children can't care for themselves at their ages either. He's supposed to get a 40 hr work week done during nap times?? And I really think y'all downplayed the TWO calls in seven weeks. I can't imagine how the wife/mom has been feeling the last few years, but she nearly went no contact with her partner for almost two months. She emotionally abandoned them.
The Irish twins story is an Everyone Sucks Here situation. Not for the falling out of love bit, but it's obvious their relationship had some serious flaws before the mom abandoned the family for 2 months. At least from what we've been told, the amount of communication between the wife and husband is nonexistent. If she's struggling with mental health/taking care of 2 young babies all day...there are many steps to take before up and leaving for 7 weeks. Starting with asking for help. And the husband should have noticed things long before if the wife was struggling. He also doesn't sound like he really communicated his feelings regarding her asking to take that long long vacation. It doesn't sound like they loved each other even before he left.
This was a great collaboration with Charlotte! I was totally intrigued and glad to see Charlotte have interaction with you! I love when her and Mike do their own. I got great peeps to follow!
OMG MY QUEEN CHARLOTTE WITH THE ICONIC THT 😍 I did a happy dance when I saw her on the thumbnail bc I’ve loved Charlotte since she was on IO 😭 best crossover ever
Nah, that last story I'm on OPs side. She refuses daycare to make it easier on the both of them, only called 2 times during the 7 weeks? She does deserve a break, but nah, up and leaving for 7 weeks and barely keeping in contact? Nope.
Story two: I am a bit curious on if the couple actually wanted to have their cake and eat it too. Because I feel like turkey basting, even if you didn’t know insemination kits existed, would be an obvious solution. It is a little strange their minds went to “have intercourse and I’ll watch”
The silence in my house household when you said semen will try to impregnate your eye!!!!!!!!! My husband and eye just stares at each other wide eyed like 👀
Oh yeah on story one, OP did confront his daughter who confessed she only took a few of the vitamins, implying that the wife was indeed cheating. Edit: rechecked the update. After a while of the family being all tense and not talking to one another, OP went to his daughter who ended up breaking down crying. daughter said she only took two vitamins but four were missing. OP gave her a "do you know what this means" look. So probably cheating. also checking the comments on the update, the two missing vitamins the daughter didnt take were Lubracil or Black Cohosh, which comments are saying are for menopause (quick google search says yeah but idk) so cheating may be a possibility but also not the only answer
I instantly thought she was cheating. Her major overreaction to the husband & then continues to gas light the husband, calling him untrustworthy. There's definitely something more sus going on here.
As mother of 4 (my youngest being 9) who works from home, its so annoying how prople forget you are still working just because its from home doesn't mean your fudging around. I still cook, clean. I take bi yearly vacays (by myself). OP had a valid reason to go nuts! I helped a cousin out with his toddler since his baby mom wants nothing to do with the baby. And i tell you its hard as fudge to take care of a toddler and work from home. He now asked for me to watch his son twice a week. For now i will but asked him to look into childcare since i work full time. I get mom needed a break but 7wks is ridiculous and Dad isnt whining for being overwhelmed he is there too working from home..im sure he helps out too. But since she was there the load of 2 kids didnt feel as hard.
I have triplets and a son that turned 3 right before they were born. I feel like she was probably getting some kind of help for herself. I do feel for him because its A LOT to handle 24/7. I cant imagine not calling my spouse though! I took two of my kids on vacation this year.... spoke with my spouse and my other kids on video calls every day, at least once a day... usually twice a day. There is definitely more.
That last story kills me. Hubby and I have 2 kids and as stressful and insane as it can be, I can't EVER imagine leaving them for 7 weeks, let alone only talking to them/him twice in that time. That's sketchy as hell to me. As a parent, when you need a break, you go take a hot shower, go for a walk, go for coffee with a friend or even take a day or two (max!) away. But 7 weeks?! Honestly that sounds like she just wanted to get away and leave all her responsibilities behind, which is probably why she didn't call. Kids need their moms and their dads, but in those first couple years, they tend to need mom a LOT more. Those poor kids were too young to understand why mom wasn't around anymore, and were probably inconsolable. So ya, I get that week 1 would have been insane and dad was exhausted and had a bit of a breakdown. My hubby worked away for a couple months at a time when our kids were young, and let me tell you, there were times I got them to bed and just sobbed while sitting on the living room floor. I didn't have PPD, but stress builds up in your body and sometimes, a good cry is the best reset. That being said, I really dont think that the hubby in that story is out of line at all. He probably began to resent her for leaving him to take care of everything for so long, and realized that if he's doing it all without her, what does he even need her for?!
@user-qk7qc2yv1w I haven't seen OP mention that anywhere in the actual post, and instead just saw other people speculate that's what probably happened. Even if that was the case, though, how did she know a 7 week break from her real life (because that's exactly what it was, she checked out from having any kind of responsibility) would fix it? Seems pretty suspicious to me.
The last story... As a single mom, and full time worker... it's most definitely NOT the same to be a stay at home mom, than having to also mantaing a work (and keep up so you don't get fired!). He did need help. Still, there's something odd about a mom leaving her kids for almost two months. I also have adhd and don't experience missing people like others do, but to be apart from your own kids is a whole different story.
They're always like this when men write in and I find it very odd. They have no problem calling a woman an A hole who does something messed up can never give a man the benefit of the doubt when he's not in the wrong? It's not always about gender, people can be crappy regardless.
I agree I think they got too caught up in the rehab excuse that is unknown to be true or not and overlooked him watching the kids for the assumed first time alone for 2 months straight while also holding down a full time job. It’s completely unfair to judge him for breaking down on the first week. I would expect the first week to be the hardest, I mean he’s getting the hang of juggling two jobs and you’re gonna judge him for being stressed?? I love morgan but jeez this one was way wrong in my opinion
@@mackenziec4494 Exactly. If the genders were reversed and mom were stressed? Morgan would be praising her for doing her best in a tough situation. I don’t know why she thinks OP should be able to handle all of that at once with no help.
@@trusuz20 that’s what I was saying. Just the couple of comments saying she MIGHT have been or they had a similar experience where a facility was included
Having Irish twins is hard on both parents. I completely understand that mom would be completely depleted. I think the rehab is a valid possibility, but also a mental health facility. That being said it was too much to ask OP to work full time and take care of two babies at the same time. When I take breaks it’s for a few days and I expect my husband to take a few days off to do what I do and support me taking a break. But that’s a few days. Seven weeks is impossible to support. Ideally I think they could have worked out more regular breaks for her like a weekend a month or a week every couple of months. That would have been healthier for everyone I think. But all of that is canceled out if she needed that time in a facility and didn’t tell him. Sounds like the marriage has more issues.
Love to see the Queen of Petty! 🥰 That guy who’s angry with his sister over missing the funeral- what an arsehole!! I lost my mum suddenly a few years ago and I would speak to her EVERY DAY. I miss those phone calls so much. How anyone could complain about someone wanting to speak to them a few times a week is beyond me. Appreciate your parents always. 🫶🏻
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the fact that they think the dad isn’t doing enough because he needed help taking care of his TWO BABIES while working from home with no daycare or any help is an insane take. Many people with infants who work from home hire a nanny because depending on the job, it is impossible to tend to all the baby’s needs and get any work done. I can’t stand when people who don’t have kids or haven’t been an older sibling or anything give their “hot takes” on these types of stories because they are so out of touch smh
Agreed. A nanny/au pair was essential if daycare was determined by the wife as not an option. Both need counselling, something more complex seems to be going on.
Specially when the dad wasnt the primary caregiver! It takes time to know ALL the things your babies need! My husband is an amazing and involved dad, but he still needs reminders and is exhausted after being the only dad with our baby after a couole hours haha
THIS!! I was like poor guy even asked if the vacation could be less time! And she said no! Then after a week of full time work and full time at home parent with two kids under two ofc he had a break down! Not to mention she only called TWICE and then pops back after vacay like nothing happened. I’m sorry but that’s not how marriage or parenting works. I’d probably also want a divorce from feeling so abandoned by my spouse!
As a mom of actual twins who are now 6... I think the mom was valid in her feelings especially if she was dealing with some kind of postpartum depression. I suffered from PPD myself when my twins were born because I was doing a lot of it alone the first 6 months because my husband was working 3rd shift so the nights were really hard and taxing. So I can understand where the mom is coming from when she says she needs a break... But taking care of more than one baby at a time for anyone is exhausting... Even for the dads. so I feel like the mom was kind of selfish with that vacation. Because he struggled to. But you can't help how you feel. So if he fell out of love with her... He can't help that. Just like she can't help her feelings. they're both right but also wrong. A marriage is a partnership... And once kids come into the mix it is no longer about YOU. it should only be about those babies. They come first. Even in my darkest moments of postpartum... I still put my baby's first. If she did in fact go into a rehab facility, she should have told her husband... Her PARTNER. It sounds like he would have helped her and supported her. That is nothing wrong with adding for help and no one should be embarrassed about it. I do hope things work out for both of them in the end but most importantly I wish the best for those babies.
They definitely need to communicate. He can fall out of love now and eventually fall in love again who knows. And if money was not an issue they definitely should have hired a nanny for those 7 weeks while he was working. IDK why ppl worker than they should.
The last story: I understand the wife needing a break, but he said no to the Seven week trip, and she went anyways. If the roles were reversed they’d be arguing that the mom who was stuck at home, working full time and taking care of Irish twins should divorce the husband! But they instead argue how the husband should stick with the mom WHO BARELY CONTACTED THEM FOR SEVEN WEEKS! Like what???? And no she wasn’t at a mental facility cause he said she spent money and he’d notice if there wasn’t a money trail in the places she went to!
I like Morgan, but she can be sexist sometimes against men. I’ve seen it multiple times, where I know if the genders were switched she wouldn’t have the same opinion.
Morgan is SUPER misandrist. There's a big difference between feminism and hating men. I think it's expected for him to be exhausted and overwhelmed while working from home and caring for Irish twins young enough to be in diapers. I don't like Morgan, she makes a lot of disrespectful, entitled, judgmental statements...I forget how shitty she is and come back to watch a video after a while and it's always the same.
I was a bit taken aback how they started going off on the dad coz he was struggling, he's the sole bread winner in the family in that moment, she's gone for 7 weeks and it'll be using the money he's earning and left him with the full care of 2 babies and taking care of all the house responsibilities (which with 2 babies there are A LOT). I can understand him breaking down when help was offered 🤷♀️
@@2words1finger64 exactly! And I can understand him starting to fall out of love after his wife completely checked out on their family. What if he needed a break, quit his job and took a 7 weeks vacation, I’m sure the wife would have a problem with that.
if the roles were reversed? you mean if he would have been the one being pregnat back to back and caring for a newborn while also being pregnant i think not. she needed more than a 7 week waykau. he broke down a week in caring for his hicldren while she has been caring fro them 24/7 for 2 years and a week in he is already giving up. i hope they get a divorce and she get remarreid to a real man
I've been skipping around the past few days, maybe a week by now, videos. And I just wanted to say even though this video is kind of old now, that Charlotte is a very lovely guest. I don't know much about her or her content, I sometimes catch myself finding some of her reels on Facebook and I watch them, but I think she is one of the most level-headed guest I've seen on the show. I don't know a lot of people that come up on this show is guest, and I don't watch some episodes with certain people for reasons. Charlotte is such a breath of fresh air. I feel like she is a great listener, she has great comprehension skills. There's so many times where a story is read and then I feel like it is literally forgotten lol And then they have questions about things or they talk about certain things and it was literally addressed in the post but it was not remembered. Are there is constantly talking over each other or sort of talking a little too much on one side or the other. and I don't mean this in a super bad criticism, I think those episodes are fun. The ones that I've watched I've enjoyed, the ones that I don't really buy with I just turn off and I move on to another video. Charlotte is just very lovely. I feel like she just sits and listens she makes good points, she didn't really have many bad takes or any of this video. I think both of you guys with the last story were given the dad a little bit too much flack but other than that this episode was really great and pleasant. And I didn't skip through anything lol I hope that she can come back for more episodes in the future because like I've said many times already she's a very pleasant person to be around. There were a lot of really good and interesting stories in this episode as well. A lot of these stories I have not heard before. So thank you!
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Story 1: I actually read this story on Reddit the other day and there is an update.
OP had a talk with his daughter. Apparently the daughter admitted taking some vitamin but not everything that had "disappeared" from the drawer. Both of them soon come to the realization that the wife most likely had an affair and cried together. The daughter got to that conclusion before he did, which was why she was awkward around her father. OP didn't elaborate on it though as he wanted to keep it private.
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Yeah I felt that the wife was way too angry and defensive for just the daughter taking it
@@samalvarez8776yea that’s what I was thinking. Like why would you get that mad over a situation that dosent actually involve you
Did you read the comments in there? It was insane.
OMG, thank you so SO much for the update fam. Good lookin out. ❤ .... and OF COURSE she did
The Husband (from the first story): “Hey, honey, I noticed that the vitamins were deplenishing rather quickly and was wondering why. Is everything okay? Should I be concerned?”
The Wife: “HOW DARE YOU ASK ME SUCH INVASIVE QUESTIONS AND MAKE SUCH INFLAMITORY ACCUSATIONS! YOU’RE INSANE! I CAN NO LONGER TRUST YOU!”
Well if he wasn’t suspicious before, he should be now.
Assuming he's being accurate in his retelling, I would guess that her overly evasive response was because she was trying to protect her daughter's privacy and got flustered because she couldn't. I wouldn't be surprised if she was frustrated by her own inability to keep a secret more than his probing - which is why the response seems excessive to him. She was responding to herself more than she was responding to him.
People are saying in the update that the wife was actually cheating and the daughter found out when the dad asked her why she’d been taking so many of the sex supplements when they’re greater towards older women so she immediately realized her mom was cheating and her and the dad cried together having both realized after that
YOURE KIDDING MEEEEE AHHHHHHH CHARLOTTE MY POTATO QUEEEEEEN
Ikr I DIED when I saw charlotte. AHHHHHH!
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Haven't even started watching yet, but I automatically know it's gonna be good.
"How are you not EMBARRASSED?"
Literally my reaction lol
Just sitting down to watch it now WOOO 🎉🎉🎉
Story 6: what kind of mental gymnastics do you have to do to get mad at your family for not telling you mom died when you didn’t answer your phone. 😂 what?! He is the a-hole and his wife is worse.
I wonder .... Is there some phone calls anxiety on the side of the brother and his wife, where some set boundaries constantly crossed so it turned into this absurd situation. The message " call me it's urgent" is vague. Why didn't she put the mother's death into the first message instead of "it's urgent". I know it sounds stupid but as a person anxious about calls I sort of understand but yeah, demanding apology is over the top. It's kinda petty on both sides.. he won't answer the phone and she won't put the full info into the message, none of them.
@@Acinnn you don't put that info in a message ffs! when someone texts you it's URGENT please answer you f*ing asnwer.
@@achocot haha. I guess you never heard of parents that say urgent but it's just to boss their kids around.
@@Acinnn multiple calls from different members of the family but not one call from mom who usually calls weekly? Even if she was the type to say urgent even when it’s not you can clearly tell that’s not the case here. At least pick up once and if they start bullsh*ting hang up.
I disagree. My hot take: I smell a rat when it comes to the OP and their family. I've seen more than enough evil in-laws successfully twist the story to make their DIL look evil that I was immediately on my guard with this story. OP says that Anne had an issue with their family crossing boundaries...and then conveniently sidestepped clarifying what exactly it was that their family did. Phone calls 2-3X a week can be a LOT if these calls were going up to an hour. Adding weekly dinners on top of it - and I can see why Anne might be overwhelmed and upset, especially if the family isn't nice to her. Also, it's very telling that OP and the family didn't ONCE clarify to their brother in their many texts and voicemails that "Hey, mom's not doing well, respond asap." I'm sorry, but if your mom suddenly collapses or something happens, that's not the time to be like "Nooooo, I can only tell him in person." They should have IMMEDIATELY relayed the info that Mom was ill or that Mom was hospitalized. It seems like the family was intentionally testing the brother to see if he'd reply, and I'm sorry, but to test your family member at such a time implies spitefulness. Could Anne and Michael (or whatever his name was) be evil and awful? Sure, maybe. We never know the true story. But that's exactly why my gut is telling me OP isn't relaying the whole story. They didn't convey even ONE of Anne's complaints with their family and I wonder if everyone's tune would change if Anne suddenly made a post and was like "They're horribly mean to me, his mom called 3X a week for two hour calls, we had to have weekly dinners or all hell would break loose...I felt like I was trapped and was losing my frickin mind." I'm sorry for OP that they lost their mom, but dying doesn't make someone a saint. I really want to know Anne's specific complaints with the family. I feel like only then can we really determine if she's TA.
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The first story had an update. The wife was cheating and the daughter found out about it and was going through it trying to figure out how to tell her dad.
Omg do you have the link by chance?
Oh that's awful. I had a feeling bc of the reaction from the wife but that's terrible :(
Eh that’s a little misleading it’s not confirmed that she’s cheating but dad and daughter speculate. Also the sex drugs are supplements that help relive symptoms of menopause
A lot of people in the comments on both posts mentioned the vitamins OP mentioned are ones that help with menopause symptoms. So there is a possibility that could be what's going on and the wife is too embarrassed to tell OP.
Excactly what I thought, bc of the daughter being uncomfortable and some medicine being specifically for the older womens issues
The fact that they didn’t think of the turkey baster is hilarious
I think it is suspicious.
Why is it suspicious?
@@FukaiKokoro most people I know that aren't in a same sex relationship know about the "turkey baster method" but your telling me a lesbian couple that has already gone through IVF doesn't know about the turkey baster method? Plus most lesbians would choose a turkey baster over a penis. So why are they so determined to have sex? It's super suspicious
@@nebulasfartI'm using my brain... it doesn't seem suspicious. It's a way cheaper way to have a baby than IVF
Realistically, a sperm isn't staying alive in a turkey baster very long.
I appreciate Charlotte's strong conviction. She's real. Glad to see her take here.
You missed your mother’s funeral and you want an apology for not answering your phone. That’s so effed up. The dad saying he lost his wife and son is spot on.
Yeah, I definately disagree with the comment about sister. This is a choice she has to make now, him or the rest of the family, because she's pushing it too far trying to make out that they are in the wrong. Clearly something urgent had happened or the whole family wouldn't have called him so much saying its urgent, he chose to ignore it, she's now choosing him
I smell abuse. It starts with isolation
So fkd up 😮
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And didn't he notice it was everyone else calling and not his mom?
I had to pick my jaw off the floor when I saw who the guest was OMG OMG ❤
SAME. I was like shut the front door. I know this is gonna be so good.
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Same
honestly I love charlotte so much I’ve been watching her since I was a kid back when she was on the inform overload channel.
I saw yesterday that Charlotte posted that she was on a THT episode! I kept checking to see if it was posted and got the notification this morning. I was so excited for my lunch break!!!
That second story! There’s no way the lesbians could’ve not known about the turkey baster method. There’s gotta be more to this story 😳
I feel like the one carrying the baby secretly just wants to have sex with the husband tbh 😂
What I was thinking! They've spent tens of thousands on treatments but didn't look it up?? You'd think they'd have done extensive research
They know for sure. There’s more to this story
Damn just said this!
Lesbian here, and that whole story had me repulsed…what the hell??
Last story. You dont get to vacation from your family. Work out things like breaks. If money isn't an issue hire a nanny to help. 7 weeks away is insane.
The game story with the cheating mom-One mom targeted another with ill intent. The other made a poor choice and is suffering the consequences. I’m more worried about a person that targets people with ill intent for entertainment, over the person that makes poor choices that mostly affect themselves and their partner( cheating). As the couple, my mom isn’t going to cheat on me so it’s not my issue. The mom that targets people with ill intent for entertainment- is a however a concern. 🚩
I know Morgan and Charlotte said that breaking up would be too far, but to get away from a MIL with that level of ill intent I would do it.
This is exactly what I was going to comment. I hate cheaters and I think OPs mom will and should suffer those consequences. However, she made a horrible decision due to someone manipulating her and using her insecurities against her. They were TARGETING HER. Ops mother in law targeting her in order to cause mayhem and possibly to get OP to break up with her fiancé and ruin her life. One was out of malice, the other what out of insecurity and poor decision making. One is not the same.
Does it not sound like the movie/book Dangerous Liaisons?
@@catf9223Yeah, sounds like maybe the MIL or Brad watched that movie while drinking too much wine and decided to do it in real life.
Story 4: "his divorce is costing him a lot of money" OH POOR BABYYYY. Imagine the mental and emotional cost your partners are going through because of your affair
story 7: i think it’s strange that he said he felt she deserved a break, then afterwards was upset that she took a break. also 7 weeks is a v long vacation, but it feels like a rly short amount of time to fully fall out of love w your life partner
Right! Like it’s so weird he’s not even willing to try lol
Right and did no one find it odd that he went out of his way to talk about what a great person he was? It seemed like he was being deliberately obtuse about stuff. I would love to hear mom’s side.
Doesn't take a year for someone to show they've lost interest in you. This goes for both the husband and wife. Adding the context of the wife only contacting 2 times in 7 weeks from the thread. People have their "icks", and neglect is one even if both parties don't find it valid.
I have 2 children, my husband and I both work full time. We are a pretty good team but it is still hard at times. If my husband told me he needed a nearly 2 month break from our lives I'd probably be done too. Unless there is more the story like a serious mental health situation I would be pretty resentful. If this was necessary for a health reason for either one of us we would pre arrange help...even If it was just a couple weeks.
My husband has been away a lot for work recently, but he checks in EVERYDAY and we both express love, concern and affection for each other daily. I can't imagine a world where someone just feels comfortable leaving 2 babies and a committed partner they want to have a functional relationship with for nearly 2 months with an average of only 1 call per month.... and think there will be no hard feelings or big conversations to be had upon return.
I also can't imagine there not being several steps between acknowledging that your wife needs a vacation because 2 consecutive pregnancies and raising 2 infants without a single break has been hell on her physical and emotional health.... experiencing a fraction of that physical and emotional drain yourself, so you have an even deeper understanding of what she was going through to lead her to the demand for vacation.. and just not even wanting to talk it out. Straight to divorce. Straight to "I don't love you. Bye." That sounds incredibly callous.
Both ends of this story feels devoid of crucial information. Without that information, both the wife and husband sound inhuman. Like neither of them ever gave a hoot about the other or their babies. And that's clearly not the case for the wife, if she's grasping at straws to save their marriage. It's weird weird. Readers are forced to come up with conjecture like PPD, inpatient rehab, neuro-divergence... otherwise, the math doesn't math. People who are committed enough to marry and have more than one child (which implies intentional family building) don't just behave that way. Way too much is invested to just have that level of abandonment be performed by both partners.
They totally missed the opportunity to say “the lyin’ , the Witch, and the Whore-drobe” but I digress.
Ooooo so so much better!!! You’re elite
Story 2 my mouth dropped! Im a two time IUI and one time IVF, i did at home insemination with my ex wife to have my youngest daughter and it was super simple and easy. This was before the kits were as accessable and we just used a baby medicine dropper. We got pregnant the FIRST try so he should definitely try that first 😅
I can’t get over the last story, he was expected to take care of two infants while SIMULTANEOUSLY working full time and forbidden from using daycare or child care services AND taking care of household duties for seven weeks straight. OF COURSE HE NEEDED HELP they are two babies and he is actively working. And wife only called twice??? In two months??? Bananas.
Yeah idk what they were thinking on this one. Kids are a 2 person job even if you are a stay at home parent. I've worked jobs that have made me insane without children, to add children on top of that with no one else to help take care of the house while having a full time job sounds insane. And to have so little contact for 7 weeks? That just isn't fair to him. If he doesn't do anything around the house normally, I could understand her going on a trip for like a week or 2 to make him understand how difficult it is but holy hell almost 2 months of nearly zero contact would kill my interest in someone for sure.
I feel like they completely forgot that he was also working full time? Otherwise I do not understand their reaction?
I completely agree. She only checked in twice in two months?! I think I would have fallen out of love too.
According to the comments she was struggling with her mental health and tried to tell him multiple times.
Yeah, I feel like there we're missing reasons he skipped over. He said it was taxing "for her", which implies to me she shouldered most if not all of the childcare among other things. Also, Irish twins suggests he didn't give her much of a break before having unprotected sex with her after childbirth. Just... some info and context I feel like we're missing. Would love to hear her side. @hollyjones-ey3ih
“Our lesbian couple” on story 2s title had me crying… like they are your pets or something lol
I clocked that too!
It's their emotional support lesbian couple 😭
i was like “SIR are you aware the owning of people has been abolished for years now” 💀💀
I have a friend who refers to her friend as "my gay bestie" and even though she's bi I'm like.... I hope I'm not her "half black bestie". Sheesh.... I do not describe ppl by their sexual orientation.... But I don't feel like it's my place to police how she engages her community.
Is it possible that it’s actually an inside joke? My friend actually prefers when I introduce her and her girlfriend as my lesbian moms.
8:42 the daughter is 25! The father does not need to know his daughter is sexually active.
Then she should buy her own supplies….
The man is in the right to know bc
He probably thought his wife was cheating and STI’s are no joke
Story 3: Honestly, I think everyone's focusing way too much on who's wrong. That's distracting, because obviously the mother is wrong for cheating. The real issue, however, is that the MIL is demented. Do you want to live your whole life connected to this person? Give her access to your children?? What kind of mind games will she play with them? Honestly, I don't think I could marry into a family like this.
Also, so awesome to see Charlotte!!
Yeah I agree but op is being hypocrite. She victimising her mother. Both mother are disgusting, if you’re cutting out one then you should cut out the other.
@@jesuschrist472calling the guy "the aggressor" like he raped her mother was what got me weirded out
@@riahw3750 yeah exactly, obviously the home wrecking truce is disgusting but he didn’t abuse op mother into an affair or anything.
I think the difference is that, while I would never look at my mother the same, cheating happens a lot. What doesn't happen often, is someone convincing another man to sleep with a married woman just because she hates the woman's son. That is psychopathic
@@riahw3750 I think that was a bad word choice. It's possible and definitely sounds like ( considering the circumstances ) he pushed and instigated with the mother more than she reciprocated. Doesn't mean that the mother is innocent and I'm sure op knows this but it is her mother after all and her fiancés mother is the instigator in this and the mil bf.
Also we've no idea how low her self-esteem is or what her relationship is like with her husband. It's highly likely he manipulated her knowing how low it was! Doesn't make it right. But I'd call that a form of abuse, right! He took advantage of her. Anyways that's just my take on the info we have.
Did everyone miss in the last story the part where the OP said he did not end up missing his wife and was actually feeling more relaxed without her around?
That alone had to be majorly eye-opening for him. Why would he want to stay with someone he doesnt enjoying having around?
I think he misses the labor his wife provided, hence why he's crying after 1 week. But once that labor was taken over by his sister, he didn't miss her anymore. Just my take on it.
@popcorn1304 this. He stopped loving her once she stopped doing things for him, that's weird.
@@popcorn1304EXACTLY!!!!
@@ainkulu I think it's more a case of he stopped loving her/noticed that he had stopped loving her once they weren't around each other anymore on a daily basis. And if the only thing that kept him in love with her was physical proximity, then clearly the relationship was already in trouble before she left, they maybe just didn't know it yet. It also sounds like he doesn't need free labour and could easily afford a nanny and/or cleaner so I really don't think that that's it.
@@mae_liii Seriously. WHY ARE PEOPLE DEFENDING THIS LADY???
On story 7, He was having a crappy time work and she was having crappy time at home. She deserved a vacation yes but now he was alone with two newborns and work. Being alone with all that pressure I would be breaking down in tears too
Story 4, I feel like the wife was so concerned about the affair partner losing money because she wanted to move on with him. Lol. Cause now he broke and she doesn’t want a broke man haha
Mom died sorry is so sad. My partner and I speak to our parents daily. I would never discourage a healthy parent/child relationship. Also, love this mashup… THT and Charlotte! ❤
A combo I didn't know I needed, how exciting Charlotte is a Queen
Story 6, I talk to my mum once a day 😂 She calls me and asks if I'm alive if I don't call her for one day. I'm in my 30s.
I probably would have dropped the ‘mom is dead’ news via text or voicemail if I hadn’t reached him by the day of the funeral. Bro & wife are delusional to think that they were owed an apology.
Right? Sorry “urgent” isn’t as serious as “mom died and funeral is at x”
@emm6724 Yeah but if I saw 50-plus urgent messages. I would just assume someone died.
@@Tues48 exactly.
Yeah, at least say "somethings happened to mom. We need you back by Tuesday. Please call"
Depends on your culture though. Like for example, in my culture, we don't tell something like that via text.
When my grandma passed I was at work. My family also called me a bunch of times and texted me that they need to have private conversation with me. Then after I got on the phone with them, they told me the news.
Okay but I’m totally down with being able to watch Charlotte for an hour and a half in one video. Long live our potato queen!
With the irish twins story: i understood it as “my wife and i have separate duties: i bring in income and handle childcare as much as i can, and my wife manages the household and children when i cannot.” I understood it as “im suddenly a single parent with no assistance or backup and im struggling! (As many do) i got help from my sister and we took care of the kids and it wasn’t as stressful.” I think the frustration is 100% valid, especially if there is a *choice* to stay or go and when he asked for the trip to be shortened. If it was a sudden death that would be different, and possibly more difficult, but essentially thats what she did. She pretended to be dead to the family.
100%. I’m a stay at home mom with three little kids and went away for a week last year. I’d rather have every weekend off for two months than be away from my family.
After a year i realized I just needed more support during kids bedtime and I’m able to cope with everything so much more
Oh 100%, it’s extremely rare that both parents are 50/50, there’s going to be a default parent. My husband is EXTREMELY involved, but i wfh with 2 toddlers and if i up and left? He’d be pulling his hair out. It’s a huge adjustment.
Agreed...just having someone around (even if they are working) is better than not there at all. Peronsally, I could never leave my son for more than a week, 7 weeks is very long and only calling twice is bizarre.
Yes!!! I don’t think they are understanding that this man had literally no “off” time my wife and I have a 10 month old and she needed to leave for 1 week for a conference and that was exhausting. Luckily I was able to drop him off at daycare during the week. I would 100% feel completely abandoned if she had taken 7 weeks to just get away from us.
He is so angry that he thinks he has fallen out of love!! definitely needs therapy.
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I adore her! She did so so great for her first pod
@@TwoHotTakesthis is so exciting! Thank you both this is what we needed!!! I would also love to see one with you, Charlotte, and Sophia from okop! And/or you, Justin, Laura 0:12 Alejandra with the whole ok op gang lol I think it would be fun.
Me over here like "wait isn't what she does everyday a podcast?" Haha it's my podcast
"Google is easy." Love that!
1:23:45 I can understand why she would need a vacation BUT 7 weeks is crazy! The difference between the husband is the fact that he wasn’t just the only one caring for their kids.
He was caring for their kids AND working.
The one week was a lot harder for him because he also had to work. It’s hard to get all your work done while you’re caring for 2 very young kids. Add in the pressure to meet all your deadlines because if most people miss their deadlines for 7 straight weeks you will likely get into trouble going into some kind of disciplinary action, losing your higher leveled position, or maybe even your job completely. His wife didn’t allow him to have any babysitter at all. Imagine filming your shows with a one and two year old. They constantly need something from someone. I think you lovely ladies are being a little paranoid.
SHE DIDN’T EVER CALL HIM BACK.
No, I agree with them. We're only getting the husband's side of the story. He is definitely giving off the vibes of someone who is not a hands-on dad. That comment about how his sister suddenly had a purpose in life by becoming the kids' nanny is a red flag. Yes, she's an absolute angel for stepping up when he was overwhelmed, but it's still HIS job to parent the kids, not the aunt's. I do agree that 7 weeks is a long time, but again, we haven't gotten wife's side of the story. Maybe 2 straight years of pregnancies and newborn care really caused a mental breaking point from which it would take months to recover. We've all heard those horror stories of overwhelmed mothers who snap and harm themselves and/or the kids. She was also probably feeling unappreciated. Given how quickly he fell out of love with her, it certainly feels justified that she tried to make him realize how hard it all was by leaving him alone with the kids. Unfortunately, it had the opposite effect. This couple should probably divorce since they are doing such a terrible job taking care of each other.
People on the reddit were wondering if she checked herself into rehab or a mental health facility
I came all way the Apple Pods to rant abt the last story: THIS MAN DISCOVERED WHAT IT WAS TRULY LIKE TO BE A HANDS ON PARENT AND BAILED.
He gets no credit from me. Sure it was not great for the wife to leave for 7 weeks (boo hoo) , but for him see that as a betray and not a moment of reflection on how hard it is to be the default partner is A RED FLAG. This man is NOT a supportive partner.
did he call her at all tho?? he only said that she called him twice
He said she called twice so he never tried calling? In the story he never mentioned trying to call her just seemed like waiting for her to call him
Story 5 has me worried. If the incident happened when she was freshly of age, that man most likely was grooming her when she was much younger. I would tell her parents and tell her she needs therapy/marriage counseling if she wants to make the relationship work.
my thoughts exactly. The fact she’s 27 and still can’t see that situation for what it was is concerning and sad
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“I wanna cut her hair” is definitely going to be added to my dictionary of wishing bad upon someone 😂
That last story... I don't think it's fair to say that he was struggling doing the same amount of work as a stay at home mom, he was doing full time stay at home parent, and full time work. With 3 kids between 1-4. She was certainly not doing all that work before. 7 weeks of doing full time parenting and full time work shouldn't be expected of any body.
This. And she only checked in twice??? How. HOW?!
Not to mention she's against daycare? Like wtf. You can't just abandon your family like that. He probably fell out of love as a defense mechanism to protect himself if she left again.
Fr! And the guest saying he was "whining" about it????
I love Charlotte but I think they were both totally off base on this one.
I can’t believe that they really blamed the husband. As a sahm I would never do that to my husband!!
Charlotte, I’m almost 70 and I wore those Levi bell bottoms in the 70s. I love your show!
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1:25:16 Father of Irish twins here. If their mom left them with me for 7 weeks and the kids were 1 & 2 years old, that’s a full time thing. That’s a LOT of work. No way I could do it alone while also working. But I wouldn’t want to be away from my kids for that long either. If their mother was having mental health issues, I would have asked her about them long before it would get to “7 week vacation” level.
This! 100% all of this! Mother of nearly Irish twins here. My grandpa died when my youngest was 1.5. I was away for a week (because my family lives 2 days drive each way) while my poor husband had to move with babies. He did great, but then he didn't have to work that week as it was moving/vacation before new job week. I would never expect him to work from home and care for our kids by himself even now that they are much older and more self-sufficient.
As additional opinion context, he went to Antarctica for his job for 4.5 months one time when our kids were 4 and 5. He wouldn't have dreamed of doing that when they were 1 and 2. I worked part time, one kid was in full day kindergarten while the other was in half day Pre-K and it was still pretty difficult. I literally could not have worked full time and managed. (Maybe with childcare?). I think this man should try the marriage counseling just to work on holding his boundaries and learn why he was unable to firmly say, "no more than x weeks away." Also, maybe offer the wife other respite options, mental health support, or something to help her cope before agreeing to 7 weeks of vacation!
@@positivecynic365 Reading your story, I totally relate. I mean, I wish my job sent me to Antarctica, that sounds awesome, but that dual baby struggle is real. Childcare-wise, I got very lucky that the grandparents could watch them three days a week, and we could afford day care for the other two work days. If my kids’ mom was feeling run so ragged that she has to take that long of a vacation, then it’s definitely a breakdown of communication, and would be downright obliviousness on my part.
I am wondering if the "Spend Time With Friends" was code for "Spent time with Ex" - and Husband is coming to terms with it (without throwing the mother of his children under the internet bus)
@@Schayde48611 that’s very possible
If she was going to be gone for so long back up child care should have been communicated. Like his aforementioned sister, or a temporary nanny, but like I said it has to be thoroughly communicated, as a mother of two kids who are really close in age I could not be as irresponsible or as unbothered as her. He did make it sound like he pawned off his kids on his sister, I hope he helped when he could/his sister really needed him.
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27:33 As an affair baby, Morgan you are 100% right. My sperm donor is just that, but the man who raised me, even after he divorced my mom, is my dad. I will never consider my sperm donor as a dad to me, in fact my step dad was more of a father and always will be. I’ve know this for about 3 decades and just had it confirmed, I can’t come to terms with telling my dad I know everything. I don’t want to hurt him but to me he is the best dad in the world because knowing everything he still chose me and raised me just like his other blood children.
Not me and her both going “WHAT?!” At 58:38 😂😂😂
Yes, 30 phone calls sounds urgent... however, maybe they're so delulu they thought "Ugh, the family is just trying to be petty." If someone didn't answer 30 phone calls, I would likely be texting that news. Like, well I tried to get a hold of you verbally 30 times and you refused, so, Mom's dead. Come home if you want to be at her burial.
Same! Yeah it's not something you ideally want to say over text but if they don't pick up the phone I wouldn't have another option. I wouldn't have even wanted to take the time to call as many times as OP did at all actually, after that attitude
Is it just me or does anyone get the feeling maybe the controlling wife had hold of his phone and might have cleared the missed call notifications and deleted the texts? That would then explain why the brother is so upset they never told him his mum was dead. In which case the family need to find a way to rescue him from this psychopath.
@AB-ot1pv That was my thought too. Not answering your phone after 30+ phone calls sounds like your partner took your phone.
@@AB-ot1pvwe also don’t know where they went on holidays. Yes he should have answered his phone, however, if they were overseas they may have been out of range. But so far the biggest AH is the wife, it reeks of controlling behaviour.
This was the exact thing I was thinking! Yes they tried, but not a single text or voicemail after all those failed attempts? And the brother found out through a text anyway afterward! So instead of getting the less ideal version while still having time to maybe go to the funeral, he finds out by text after he already missed it.
Story 6 - my husband calls his family several times a week and I talk to them everytime too. Seems very normal to me. Wild that thats seen as out of the norm
Charlotte, I just love how you're so full of random bodily facts 😂
I need a SERIES of you two doing these together. I gasped so loud, when worlds collide 🤯
I THOUGHT MY MIND WAS PLAYING TRICKS ON ME!!!! POTATO QUEEN X MORGAN!! The cross over we needed
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Story 1, the meds are probably to help with perimenapause symptoms, they've been married for 25 years, she is probably 50 or so. Lubricil is for 'dryness' issues that can come with horomone weirdness.
And ???? Why is she giving them to daughter..also Lube Exists!
Agreed! And the daughter taking them at 25 isn’t strange! Especially if she’s had children! Vaginal dryness and hormone imbalance is super common!
Yes! This is the part they’re missing. The wife’s reaction is still a bit of an overreaction but I could understand not wanting my dad to know that I have dryness issues at 25 (or any age really). It’s not that they don’t want the dad to know she’s sexually active-she’s 25 of course she is. It’s that they don’t want him to know the details about her sexual health
I don't understand this story. Why isn't the 25 year old daughter buying her own stuff? She's 25, she probably has a job and her own money and suplements don't cost that much. Why is the mom reacting so strongly? It would make sense if the daughter was a teenager and the mom would try to protect her from a more rigid conservative father, but again she's 25. It shouldn't be such a big secret between the parents. The mom could have just explained and the dad could have pretended not to know his daughters business. The story makes no sense at all.
Yeah this was one of the main conclusions in the actual comments on Reddit when I saw this post. Clearly the wife is likely going through early menopause and is uncomfortable/embarrassed to say anything. And I can understand why when the dude tries to corner her in a restaurant to get info and jumps to cheating first when some stuff is missing.
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As a trained psychologist we are taught not to confront a client in couples therapy but try to empower the couple to stand up for themselves. Unless it is going to cause harm to themselves or others you are not suppose to confront them. Hopefuĺy the counselor tried to empower the husband and perhaps get the wife to see reason. It can and is a very hard road to walk.
But I've also heard of therapists in psychologists actually calling people out. I mean, are there different ways to approach these issues?
And, if you don't mind me asking, what made you get your PhD and not just your masters? And did you do both? I'm sorry but I'm trying to make that decision right now.
Totally!!
Love seeing this from a counselor. I've seen one too many clinicians who like to take sides, and I often side eye them pretty hard due to that. As a person who often seeks different types of therapy and needs it to function, I would hate to have that be the approach a clinician would use in session.
Plus I don't see how alienating yourself from one client in a partnership- in order to get your own emotions all mixed up in THEIR dynamic to "defend" the other partner- would really help anyone.
It's also important from what I understand to remember that a clinician can be pretty wrong about what they think they're seeing. You might as a counselor have it all wrong, and it would really suck as a client to have a counselor tell you that you're wrong and "call you out", when maybe you're an abuse victim behind the scenes, or there's just a ton more to the story that would change your mind about your defensive feelings of a certain client.
You're there to help us navigate our own relationships, not harm us and get all mixed up in our relationship dynamic.
Hi, I'm a psychologist, too. First off, there indeed is a method to "confront" clients - but not in the way you probably mean. Done so when they are stabilized and in a controlled manner, with phobias or OCDs etc.
But in general, we wouldn't (at least shouldn't) affront you with our assumptions/prejudices, we rather paraphrase or use specific kinds of questions to assist you sorting out your own thoughts and feelings or other people's views or support you defining your solutions resp. goals and such.
Hope I could help a little (and was understandable, English is not my mother tongue).
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I’m actually conflicted with the conclusion of the last story…cuz op said he did work full time and I’m not belittling sahms but it was obviously a huge pressure put on him all of a sudden and the fact that he wife won’t be there for a couple of weeks prolly took a toll on him mentally(who knows🤷🏻♀️) and (without considering the fact that wife might be in a rehab center) I feel like contacting him two times in all of those 7 weeks??? That’s crazyyyyy and also we can’t forget the fact that they came to an agreement only for her to go on the vacation for a couple of weeks…for context let’s just think it was ‘4 weeks’ so after the initial time has passed he prolly slowly gave up of wife bc he already had a support system(the sister) which is mind boggling but I mean it’s fascinating how the human brain works🥹 but yea I think we should give op some grace rather than calling him an ah no matter the situation
Agreed. It sounded like he finally caved to her doing the full 7 weeks but still. To be gone that long and only call twice as nuts. If she was in a facility she still should have told him what was going in. this sounds like a coping strategy to me. i hope counseling works for them both.
Yeah it sounded like they completely disregarded these details when judging the story and they got super stuck on the rehab theory for some reason
@@teamlining7685 so true like if the roles were reversed and the wife had to deal w this we’d def be calling the husband the asshole
@@dinuliedirisinghenot true
Please don’t just think that “OH IF THE ROLES WERE REVERSED THEYD BE ON THE GUYS SIDE” like no they wouldn’t. Ive seen almost this exact scenario IRL with a guy going on a vacation and leaving his wife and kids for a long time and everyone was saying the same mental health things that he deserved a break bc mental health is serious, and yes the mom worked. Men aren’t actually that pressured to help their families.
@@Imjustkendall I might have to disagree on that one with you cuz this sounds a lot like a patriarchal society that you live in(most of us do) caused this cuz I feel like us as listeners in the podcast ‘try’ to give both of the parties involved equal treatment as much as we can so I really do feel like we’ll def call him an ah and an absent parent if the roles were reversed
Ok! Seeing Charlotte sitting on the couch with Morgan in this collab has made my life complete!
For the last story, if my partner pretty much ghosted me and my kids for 7 weeks (yeah, she called twice, but that's kinda pathetic), I also might fall out of love with them. Relationships take upkeep, you can't always just put them on a shelf and come back to them in the same state they were when you left.
The man from Story 4 isn't whining... he had a full time job on top of his 24/7 role to manage the household and take care of his kids. I work from home but could never manage my 8-5 while caring for a 2 and 1 year old simultaneously. These children can't care for themselves at their ages either. He's supposed to get a 40 hr work week done during nap times?? And I really think y'all downplayed the TWO calls in seven weeks. I can't imagine how the wife/mom has been feeling the last few years, but she nearly went no contact with her partner for almost two months. She emotionally abandoned them.
No because their take on it is so off to me??? He has two kids under 2 and has a demanding job! Of course he needs help
This!! Flip the genders and everyone would be pissed at the dad for abandoning the family for 7 weeks
And even if she was in a facility, HE didn’t know that
But the fact alone that they're going with the her being in a facility story when that is possibly not the case and the wife is just an awful human
@@vladb2154 since he's the one working he probably also provides insurance for the family so he would know if that's where she went.
The Irish twins story is an Everyone Sucks Here situation. Not for the falling out of love bit, but it's obvious their relationship had some serious flaws before the mom abandoned the family for 2 months. At least from what we've been told, the amount of communication between the wife and husband is nonexistent. If she's struggling with mental health/taking care of 2 young babies all day...there are many steps to take before up and leaving for 7 weeks. Starting with asking for help. And the husband should have noticed things long before if the wife was struggling. He also doesn't sound like he really communicated his feelings regarding her asking to take that long long vacation. It doesn't sound like they loved each other even before he left.
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Yes!!! The Queen of petty
This was a great collaboration with Charlotte! I was totally intrigued and glad to see Charlotte have interaction with you! I love when her and Mike do their own. I got great peeps to follow!
Charlotte AND Morgan! What?! So stoked 🎉❤
Anyone else not able to to like when it's st 69 lol
Missed opportunity to do a petty revenge topic😢😢 would fit Charlotte's brand so much
Morgan loves to throw curveballs tho and I’m sure most guests love the opportunity to do something out of their box
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Nah, that last story I'm on OPs side. She refuses daycare to make it easier on the both of them, only called 2 times during the 7 weeks? She does deserve a break, but nah, up and leaving for 7 weeks and barely keeping in contact? Nope.
If I was op, I’d say go get a break when baby’s out of the newborn stage. When OP made the post the baby is only two months old.
@@danielleee6533 damn for some reason I thought the baby was at least one, which makes it even worse.
Stay calm... Stay calm.... HOLY SHIT NO WAY MY 2 FAVORITES ❤ I SCREAMED AND ALMOST MADE MY BOYFRIEND CRASH! I'm fangirling
Story two: I am a bit curious on if the couple actually wanted to have their cake and eat it too. Because I feel like turkey basting, even if you didn’t know insemination kits existed, would be an obvious solution. It is a little strange their minds went to “have intercourse and I’ll watch”
A sandwich bag would have been normal compared
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Okay but that knit butterfly sweater that Charlotte's wearing is the coolest thing everrrr
I wish I knew where it come from or where I could find a pattern!
I looked it up cause I loved it but it’s almost $900 😭
The way I SCREECHED when I saw Charlotte and Morgan in the same thumbnail!
The silence in my house household when you said semen will try to impregnate your eye!!!!!!!!! My husband and eye just stares at each other wide eyed like 👀
Oh yeah on story one, OP did confront his daughter who confessed she only took a few of the vitamins, implying that the wife was indeed cheating.
Edit: rechecked the update. After a while of the family being all tense and not talking to one another, OP went to his daughter who ended up breaking down crying. daughter said she only took two vitamins but four were missing. OP gave her a "do you know what this means" look. So probably cheating.
also checking the comments on the update, the two missing vitamins the daughter didnt take were Lubracil or Black Cohosh, which comments are saying are for menopause (quick google search says yeah but idk) so cheating may be a possibility but also not the only answer
WHATTTT
I instantly thought she was cheating. Her major overreaction to the husband & then continues to gas light the husband, calling him untrustworthy. There's definitely something more sus going on here.
Thanks for posting this! I came to see if someone addressed this. I’m guessing they recorded this before those updates came out.
@@emilyemily444and the taking a long time to say anything. She was trying to come up with a story
Maybe the wife even instructed the daugther to cover up her cheating, that would be pretty messed up.
As mother of 4 (my youngest being 9) who works from home, its so annoying how prople forget you are still working just because its from home doesn't mean your fudging around. I still cook, clean. I take bi yearly vacays (by myself). OP had a valid reason to go nuts! I helped a cousin out with his toddler since his baby mom wants nothing to do with the baby. And i tell you its hard as fudge to take care of a toddler and work from home. He now asked for me to watch his son twice a week. For now i will but asked him to look into childcare since i work full time. I get mom needed a break but 7wks is ridiculous and Dad isnt whining for being overwhelmed he is there too working from home..im sure he helps out too. But since she was there the load of 2 kids didnt feel as hard.
I have triplets and a son that turned 3 right before they were born. I feel like she was probably getting some kind of help for herself. I do feel for him because its A LOT to handle 24/7.
I cant imagine not calling my spouse though! I took two of my kids on vacation this year.... spoke with my spouse and my other kids on video calls every day, at least once a day... usually twice a day. There is definitely more.
That last story kills me. Hubby and I have 2 kids and as stressful and insane as it can be, I can't EVER imagine leaving them for 7 weeks, let alone only talking to them/him twice in that time. That's sketchy as hell to me. As a parent, when you need a break, you go take a hot shower, go for a walk, go for coffee with a friend or even take a day or two (max!) away. But 7 weeks?! Honestly that sounds like she just wanted to get away and leave all her responsibilities behind, which is probably why she didn't call. Kids need their moms and their dads, but in those first couple years, they tend to need mom a LOT more. Those poor kids were too young to understand why mom wasn't around anymore, and were probably inconsolable. So ya, I get that week 1 would have been insane and dad was exhausted and had a bit of a breakdown. My hubby worked away for a couple months at a time when our kids were young, and let me tell you, there were times I got them to bed and just sobbed while sitting on the living room floor. I didn't have PPD, but stress builds up in your body and sometimes, a good cry is the best reset. That being said, I really dont think that the hubby in that story is out of line at all. He probably began to resent her for leaving him to take care of everything for so long, and realized that if he's doing it all without her, what does he even need her for?!
@user-qk7qc2yv1w I haven't seen OP mention that anywhere in the actual post, and instead just saw other people speculate that's what probably happened. Even if that was the case, though, how did she know a 7 week break from her real life (because that's exactly what it was, she checked out from having any kind of responsibility) would fix it? Seems pretty suspicious to me.
@@R41n3-c3jif this was the case she wouldn’t need a 7 week vacation she should have sought help from professionals for her PPD.
The last story... As a single mom, and full time worker... it's most definitely NOT the same to be a stay at home mom, than having to also mantaing a work (and keep up so you don't get fired!). He did need help.
Still, there's something odd about a mom leaving her kids for almost two months. I also have adhd and don't experience missing people like others do, but to be apart from your own kids is a whole different story.
story 5, yeah it happened years ago but she’s talking abt it now, and the way she’s talking abt it it doesn’t seem like it was nothing
Y’all would never be this hard on a mom trying to do it all while her husband was on a 7-week vacation
They're always like this when men write in and I find it very odd. They have no problem calling a woman an A hole who does something messed up can never give a man the benefit of the doubt when he's not in the wrong? It's not always about gender, people can be crappy regardless.
I agree I think they got too caught up in the rehab excuse that is unknown to be true or not and overlooked him watching the kids for the assumed first time alone for 2 months straight while also holding down a full time job. It’s completely unfair to judge him for breaking down on the first week. I would expect the first week to be the hardest, I mean he’s getting the hang of juggling two jobs and you’re gonna judge him for being stressed?? I love morgan but jeez this one was way wrong in my opinion
@@mackenziec4494 Exactly. If the genders were reversed and mom were stressed? Morgan would be praising her for doing her best in a tough situation. I don’t know why she thinks OP should be able to handle all of that at once with no help.
@@mackenziec4494 There is NO evidence she was at any facility.
@@trusuz20 that’s what I was saying. Just the couple of comments saying she MIGHT have been or they had a similar experience where a facility was included
Having Irish twins is hard on both parents. I completely understand that mom would be completely depleted. I think the rehab is a valid possibility, but also a mental health facility. That being said it was too much to ask OP to work full time and take care of two babies at the same time. When I take breaks it’s for a few days and I expect my husband to take a few days off to do what I do and support me taking a break. But that’s a few days. Seven weeks is impossible to support. Ideally I think they could have worked out more regular breaks for her like a weekend a month or a week every couple of months. That would have been healthier for everyone I think. But all of that is canceled out if she needed that time in a facility and didn’t tell him. Sounds like the marriage has more issues.
This crossover is crazyyyyyy !!! I never clicked so fast !!! Love charlotte ❤❤
CHARLOTTE AND MORGAN?? The way I screamed I love you both ❤🥹
Love to see the Queen of Petty! 🥰 That guy who’s angry with his sister over missing the funeral- what an arsehole!! I lost my mum suddenly a few years ago and I would speak to her EVERY DAY. I miss those phone calls so much. How anyone could complain about someone wanting to speak to them a few times a week is beyond me. Appreciate your parents always. 🫶🏻
Two of my favorites in the same video ☺️☺️☺️
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I didn't think it could get better than the Smosh collab, and now my favorite creator is on my favorite podcast!!! All that's left is for Charlotte to go on Smosh, and all will be right in the world! 😅 But let me stop and actually watch this magical episode! ✨️ Love you, ladies!!! 💜💜💜
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The best episode yet!!! Charlotte!!!!!!❤
Omg this collab is EVERYTHING I’ve been dreaming for
Omg omg omg my 2 favorite !!! I can’t believe it!! I clicked so fast!! I already heard it on Spotify but here I am again 🥰🥰
Same besides the Spotify part!!!!!!!
Saaaaame. Watching after Spotify to see their faces!!
same
OH MY GOD I am so excited for two of my favorite creators to be on the same video!
the fact that they think the dad isn’t doing enough because he needed help taking care of his TWO BABIES while working from home with no daycare or any help is an insane take. Many people with infants who work from home hire a nanny because depending on the job, it is impossible to tend to all the baby’s needs and get any work done. I can’t stand when people who don’t have kids or haven’t been an older sibling or anything give their “hot takes” on these types of stories because they are so out of touch smh
Agreed. A nanny/au pair was essential if daycare was determined by the wife as not an option.
Both need counselling, something more complex seems to be going on.
I agree. I've tried to work from home with ONE five year old and even that was rough sometimes.
I read that as I can’t stand older sibling hot takes and I was like UHM LOL but nvm we good 😂😂😂
Specially when the dad wasnt the primary caregiver! It takes time to know ALL the things your babies need! My husband is an amazing and involved dad, but he still needs reminders and is exhausted after being the only dad with our baby after a couole hours haha
THIS!! I was like poor guy even asked if the vacation could be less time! And she said no! Then after a week of full time work and full time at home parent with two kids under two ofc he had a break down! Not to mention she only called TWICE and then pops back after vacay like nothing happened. I’m sorry but that’s not how marriage or parenting works. I’d probably also want a divorce from feeling so abandoned by my spouse!
"yeah, no" haha Canadian alert straight off the hop haha ❤
Ya no maybe, we'll see
I love you both so much!!! This is the happiest day of my life!!! Queen Potato and Queen Hot!!!
i literally just screamed at work cuz i was so excited that you got charlotte on the show
As a mom of actual twins who are now 6... I think the mom was valid in her feelings especially if she was dealing with some kind of postpartum depression. I suffered from PPD myself when my twins were born because I was doing a lot of it alone the first 6 months because my husband was working 3rd shift so the nights were really hard and taxing. So I can understand where the mom is coming from when she says she needs a break... But taking care of more than one baby at a time for anyone is exhausting... Even for the dads. so I feel like the mom was kind of selfish with that vacation. Because he struggled to. But you can't help how you feel. So if he fell out of love with her... He can't help that. Just like she can't help her feelings. they're both right but also wrong. A marriage is a partnership... And once kids come into the mix it is no longer about YOU. it should only be about those babies. They come first. Even in my darkest moments of postpartum... I still put my baby's first. If she did in fact go into a rehab facility, she should have told her husband... Her PARTNER. It sounds like he would have helped her and supported her. That is nothing wrong with adding for help and no one should be embarrassed about it. I do hope things work out for both of them in the end but most importantly I wish the best for those babies.
They definitely need to communicate. He can fall out of love now and eventually fall in love again who knows. And if money was not an issue they definitely should have hired a nanny for those 7 weeks while he was working. IDK why ppl worker than they should.
The two of you have such fun banter, especially for a first time meeting. I would so enjoy just a podcast with both of you talking about random stuff
The last story: I understand the wife needing a break, but he said no to the Seven week trip, and she went anyways. If the roles were reversed they’d be arguing that the mom who was stuck at home, working full time and taking care of Irish twins should divorce the husband! But they instead argue how the husband should stick with the mom WHO BARELY CONTACTED THEM FOR SEVEN WEEKS! Like what????
And no she wasn’t at a mental facility cause he said she spent money and he’d notice if there wasn’t a money trail in the places she went to!
I like Morgan, but she can be sexist sometimes against men. I’ve seen it multiple times, where I know if the genders were switched she wouldn’t have the same opinion.
Morgan is SUPER misandrist. There's a big difference between feminism and hating men. I think it's expected for him to be exhausted and overwhelmed while working from home and caring for Irish twins young enough to be in diapers. I don't like Morgan, she makes a lot of disrespectful, entitled, judgmental statements...I forget how shitty she is and come back to watch a video after a while and it's always the same.
I was a bit taken aback how they started going off on the dad coz he was struggling, he's the sole bread winner in the family in that moment, she's gone for 7 weeks and it'll be using the money he's earning and left him with the full care of 2 babies and taking care of all the house responsibilities (which with 2 babies there are A LOT). I can understand him breaking down when help was offered 🤷♀️
@@2words1finger64 exactly! And I can understand him starting to fall out of love after his wife completely checked out on their family. What if he needed a break, quit his job and took a 7 weeks vacation, I’m sure the wife would have a problem with that.
if the roles were reversed? you mean if he would have been the one being pregnat back to back and caring for a newborn while also being pregnant i think not. she needed more than a 7 week waykau. he broke down a week in caring for his hicldren while she has been caring fro them 24/7 for 2 years and a week in he is already giving up. i hope they get a divorce and she get remarreid to a real man
I've been skipping around the past few days, maybe a week by now, videos. And I just wanted to say even though this video is kind of old now, that Charlotte is a very lovely guest. I don't know much about her or her content, I sometimes catch myself finding some of her reels on Facebook and I watch them, but I think she is one of the most level-headed guest I've seen on the show.
I don't know a lot of people that come up on this show is guest, and I don't watch some episodes with certain people for reasons. Charlotte is such a breath of fresh air. I feel like she is a great listener, she has great comprehension skills. There's so many times where a story is read and then I feel like it is literally forgotten lol
And then they have questions about things or they talk about certain things and it was literally addressed in the post but it was not remembered. Are there is constantly talking over each other or sort of talking a little too much on one side or the other. and I don't mean this in a super bad criticism, I think those episodes are fun. The ones that I've watched I've enjoyed, the ones that I don't really buy with I just turn off and I move on to another video.
Charlotte is just very lovely. I feel like she just sits and listens she makes good points, she didn't really have many bad takes or any of this video. I think both of you guys with the last story were given the dad a little bit too much flack but other than that this episode was really great and pleasant. And I didn't skip through anything lol
I hope that she can come back for more episodes in the future because like I've said many times already she's a very pleasant person to be around. There were a lot of really good and interesting stories in this episode as well. A lot of these stories I have not heard before. So thank you!
ALL HAIL THE HONORABLE JUDGE CHARLOTTE! 👩⚖️😅♥️♥️♥️
The way I screamed and clicked so fast