Having a world record and being asked if it's your first time playing the game is a career ending insult hahaha - fantastic video. Love your streams too! :)
I guess it makes sense. Generally it's the newest players that hotkey the least, so if you don't know they're doing a challenge and the pace is slow in the early game, I can see how you'd be confused
@@NovemberOrWhateverI think it was someone that had only just entered the chat. New viewer not patient enough to wait and realise it's a challenge run.
Weak. Use hamster and burner belts. Train the hamster to move your mouse who you've trained to move your PC mouse. This is the way Factorio was meant to be played.
Congrats on your first finished playthrough! An important aspect of the game you seemed to have missed, you can use your keyboard to move around (usually WASD), rotate objects, and many more useful things! It might make your next playthrough a lot faster! (Very cool video, the concept is very neat)
I love these type of factorio in "stupid mode". DocJade and doshdoshington being the masters nice to see new blood here. When at the end you mentioned trying again with biters, I feel it is going to be Suffering :D
. @mathiasofnorway7142 Apologies if my first comment was kind of vague. What I meant was new blood in the "stupid mode" playstyle. As far as I can tell this channel has mostly done speedruns which I wouldn't count as "stupid mode" plays.
I have a challenge for you if you're up for it. The challenge is... Beat Factorio without picking up anything you've placed down. Here is the ruleset: - You may not pick up anything you have placed (and no, bots are not allowed to deconstruct anything player-made either). - If something you placed is destroyed, you may only place the same object back (this is to close a loophole where you could just destroy things or let biters do it for you). - You _are_ allowed to rotate what you've placed. This allows you to do things like reroute belts away from old spaghetti factories so that you don't have to build everything including miners from scratch each time you want to make a change. This is the one single thing the challenge allows you that might actually make a big difference to your strategy. - You _are_ allowed to upgrade / downgrade placed objects. So long as the upgrade planner supports it, it's all good. This probably won't really affect your strategy, but it's just quality of life. After all, the point of the challenge isn't for it to be tedious, it's to build everything in a forwards-compatible way if you don't want to make things more difficult for yourself. - There's a grace period of a few seconds where you're allowed to pick something back up if you've made a mistake. This is because the point of the challenge isn't dexterity, it's careful planning. If anything's going to bother you hours down the line because of this ruleset, it should be your lack of foresight, not a misclick. It's up to you exactly how much wiggle room you give yourself here. - You're allowed to cancel ghosts. I think this should go without saying really, but it's good to be explicit about these things.
for a guy named antipatience you sure have demonstrated godly patience in figuring out how to do this run and then executing all of it; well done! also love your voice, subbed, please upload more just so that I can listen to you talk :)
I was arguing with someone whether a 3-button mouse challenge (with rebindings) or a no-movement challenge would be more interesting the other day. And now you've done both...
watching this is so unique like i see the resemblance of a good players behind that mess of a factory it's like watching a dancer perform with one leg cut off
I was on a long road trip recently and kept having the thought “what if you played factorio….but had to use belts to move?” Then I see this video in my recommended. Nice lol
For rerolling map seeds to make sure where you land, I have this solution I use. Spawn on a map (can be random), figure out exactly where you spawn. Leave the game, and go back to generator, with still the same game. Resize window to predictable size (preferably fullscreen). Place a small square piece of a transparent self adhesive tape to your monitor, and put small black dot with a black marker at the exact spot you spawned. (Yeah, I know this can be done with software and some kind of overlay, or maybe with OBS, but this works faster :D) Start rereolling. Then start playing. You do not need to remove the tape, the small black dot is basically invisible during the play. In fact you will not even notice it during non-play use of a computer. (In fact once I left the tape for 8 months on the monitor, and only noticed it randomly when browsing web). Crazy run. Cool video.
I personally like the day/night cycle. Even when doing challenges. Always Day runs in any game make me feel like I'm going insane or playing in creative mode or something. But mostly it feels like I'm going insane.
This reminds me of the run where someone played Minecraft but they couldnt do anything but right click and walk. Oh jesus why are you all gluttons for pain xD
This really underscores for me how much "knowing what you're doing" affects how much time it takes to beat Factorio. I recently held a mini LAN-party with 4 other friends, and tried to get a bunch of achievements, including the 8 hour speedrun. We beat the game in 9.5 hours..... XD
Very impressive for someone playing the game the first time. I bet you could do quite well if you used a keyboard, maybe even launch a rocket in a day!
Around 5:10 you build a bunch of steam engines. First the engine is oriented N-S, then you move the cursor over the already-built engine, the 8 engines you have in your hand go back to the inventory without any clicking, then the engines get picked up again as a full stack of 10, this time in the same orientation as the built engine, as if you hit [Q] twice. I've looked closely at the belt moving and couldn't see any skips that would indicate editing. EDIT: I found your comment about using Mouse 5 for this. I'm using a 3-button mouse so didn't know this keybind existed.
A few years back, I think the UA-camr was French or Spanish, never have bee able to find it again, did a series with a Single Sushi Belt. Sounds easy, but it really isn't. Just one never ending belt. That could be interesting to see again. But well done without a keyboard.
@@leakingamps2050 I wasn't. But thanks for the tip. Though he does seem to get rather "salty" at having to clear all the belts by hand, often. 6 lanes of belts, barely counts as sushi. I was thinking of ONE belt. And yes I have tried it myself, and yes it is a mega-task. I failed by the way at least 4 times.
dude even ignoring the immense QOL in factorio with shift clicks and allat this seems like the most excrutiating fucking challenge in any game ive ever seen oh my god
Factotio encodes terribly and I don't have the storage to comfortably record at the bitrate it needs to actually look perfect. Trying to find a balance that works, though:)
@@Antipatience The video itself is great. You'll figure out what works for you soon enough, I'm sure. Don't sweat the technical details. Instant sub. :) (Also, "Factotio" lol. Even after you edited your comment. xD)
I have a suggestion for a followup. Factorio, but you can only use a steering wheel and pedals(like the ones used in racing games). Obviously would you have to re-map some stuff.
I think you are missing out on some views by using "only mouse" instead of something like "without walking" in the video title. Many people, including myself, will not realize at first glance that you need the keyboard to walk
You poor guy. I almost chopped off my finger once and couldn't use my mouse hand, it was terrible. I decided to learn how to play Dwarf Fortress rather than try stuff like this lol
As every second goes by in this video, it gets more complicated. Just mouse? Alright, I guess no inventory is a bit bad. Oh wait, that means no WASD Well at least that’s not too awful. Just kidding, you have no hot keys for inserting items. Alright, sounds awful but it’s manageable. Oh, and also “R” is a key, have fun rotating :)
I once did something like that in rimworld, because my keyboard was broken and i was bored. Surprisingly it was absolutely playable and pretty convenient.
Well, Rimworld is very optimised for mouse control. You can do anything just by clicking and dragging. Factorios Controls are not at all like that. ^^‘
How did you get the refinery ghosts at 8:10 without having them unlocked and without using external blueprints (which you said you weren't using)? Their research required fluid handling, which requires automation 2, which isn't available in your game yet
Alright. Alright. BUT. Can you play Factorio with only a mouse while playing Factorio with only a keyboard?? Double the Factorio. Double the screen. Completely fk up the controls because you're a masochist gamer.
if you have side buttons you can bind those and scroll wheel button to moving, and move in 3 directions(right, top left, bottom left). rotate on scrolling could be useful too
Couldn't you make 4 blueprints with the blue toolbar button containing an object in each direction? Will the last blueprint chosen update the rotation? Then you could have 4 belts and update direction accordingly
Blueprints don't change the cursor direction, they just store their own rotation. So one blueprint with a bunch of rotations works better as long as there's space
Having a world record and being asked if it's your first time playing the game is a career ending insult hahaha - fantastic video. Love your streams too! :)
Glad you enjoyed! And I know right? The real reason I haven't been speedrunning recently haha
I guess it makes sense. Generally it's the newest players that hotkey the least, so if you don't know they're doing a challenge and the pace is slow in the early game, I can see how you'd be confused
A world record and looking like grandma that discovered a computer this morning and is afraid of a keyboard
@@NovemberOrWhateverI think it was someone that had only just entered the chat. New viewer not patient enough to wait and realise it's a challenge run.
It wasn't challenging enough, you should use burner belts.
I'd be lying if I said it wasn't considered xD
And in a deathworld
@@Schizo_Heart With Rampant
@@thefrenchtechman With permanent darkness set to max.
Weak. Use hamster and burner belts. Train the hamster to move your mouse who you've trained to move your PC mouse.
This is the way Factorio was meant to be played.
Congrats on your first finished playthrough!
An important aspect of the game you seemed to have missed, you can use your keyboard to move around (usually WASD), rotate objects, and many more useful things! It might make your next playthrough a lot faster!
(Very cool video, the concept is very neat)
I love these type of factorio in "stupid mode". DocJade and doshdoshington being the masters nice to see new blood here.
When at the end you mentioned trying again with biters, I feel it is going to be Suffering :D
He even names his save files like dosh does :)
Hear hear!
i don't know about new blood
. @mathiasofnorway7142
Apologies if my first comment was kind of vague. What I meant was new blood in the "stupid mode" playstyle. As far as I can tell this channel has mostly done speedruns which I wouldn't count as "stupid mode" plays.
I have 1300 hours in this game and never knew about the secret settings menu.
I have a challenge for you if you're up for it. The challenge is... Beat Factorio without picking up anything you've placed down.
Here is the ruleset:
- You may not pick up anything you have placed (and no, bots are not allowed to deconstruct anything player-made either).
- If something you placed is destroyed, you may only place the same object back (this is to close a loophole where you could just destroy things or let biters do it for you).
- You _are_ allowed to rotate what you've placed. This allows you to do things like reroute belts away from old spaghetti factories so that you don't have to build everything including miners from scratch each time you want to make a change. This is the one single thing the challenge allows you that might actually make a big difference to your strategy.
- You _are_ allowed to upgrade / downgrade placed objects. So long as the upgrade planner supports it, it's all good. This probably won't really affect your strategy, but it's just quality of life. After all, the point of the challenge isn't for it to be tedious, it's to build everything in a forwards-compatible way if you don't want to make things more difficult for yourself.
- There's a grace period of a few seconds where you're allowed to pick something back up if you've made a mistake. This is because the point of the challenge isn't dexterity, it's careful planning. If anything's going to bother you hours down the line because of this ruleset, it should be your lack of foresight, not a misclick. It's up to you exactly how much wiggle room you give yourself here.
- You're allowed to cancel ghosts. I think this should go without saying really, but it's good to be explicit about these things.
It's funny you suggest this, since I actually did a test run of basically exactly this a few days ago :) Definitely on the list
for a guy named antipatience you sure have demonstrated godly patience in figuring out how to do this run and then executing all of it; well done!
also love your voice, subbed, please upload more just so that I can listen to you talk :)
Doshdoshington:
FINALLY A WORTHY OPPONANT
impressive, 8.5 hours with no keyboard! this is almost half the time it takes me to launch a rocket
I was arguing with someone whether a 3-button mouse challenge (with rebindings) or a no-movement challenge would be more interesting the other day. And now you've done both...
It's all about compromise
6:25: "There is something you can do without a keybaord"
Me: space 'f' tab tab tab tab tab tab tab tab tab tab tab enter, "Yeah"
watching this is so unique
like i see the resemblance of a good players behind that mess of a factory it's like watching a dancer perform with one leg cut off
I was on a long road trip recently and kept having the thought “what if you played factorio….but had to use belts to move?”
Then I see this video in my recommended.
Nice lol
I really expected a yellow belt to be launched.
Yup that would have been good
For rerolling map seeds to make sure where you land, I have this solution I use. Spawn on a map (can be random), figure out exactly where you spawn. Leave the game, and go back to generator, with still the same game. Resize window to predictable size (preferably fullscreen). Place a small square piece of a transparent self adhesive tape to your monitor, and put small black dot with a black marker at the exact spot you spawned.
(Yeah, I know this can be done with software and some kind of overlay, or maybe with OBS, but this works faster :D)
Start rereolling. Then start playing. You do not need to remove the tape, the small black dot is basically invisible during the play. In fact you will not even notice it during non-play use of a computer. (In fact once I left the tape for 8 months on the monitor, and only noticed it randomly when browsing web).
Crazy run. Cool video.
I was considering a string but tape sounds way easier. OBS seems good, too. Epecially since the dot would be in the recording that way
Ah, the good old "this FPS doesn't have crosshair" trick.
ah, yes, Halo laso minimum requirements
Are you.... ok?
Dude is a masochist
This mf does a no keyboard run 5 times faster than I've ever beat the game
ngl, life is not fair. these people lucky to play factorio this good. they should be thankful.
I personally like the day/night cycle. Even when doing challenges. Always Day runs in any game make me feel like I'm going insane or playing in creative mode or something. But mostly it feels like I'm going insane.
Peaceful is pretty much creative anyway... 😏
The level of both quality and masochism in your videos does not equate to the number of subscribers you have!! Easiest sub of my life haha
Congratulations on the partnership!
Also, it's a very fun challenge to behold and the video is very well cut for the important parts.
Great content keep it up you’re criminally underrated
Great video and really good editing for a smaller channel. Keen to see more wacky challenges
this is bonkers wtf! and you still beat it in a reasonable time :o
It was almost a reasonable enough time for the spoon achievement, too! So close
Wow, this was absolute hell. You deserve a million views just for the pain of this run. Creative!
I'm so glad i got this video in my recommendations. thanks for bearing the pain for all of us, you are basically factorio jesus now
14:47, man that's impressive that u've done it in only 4 hours, speedrunning is your thing 😂
What are the odds that your left hand was hovering over wasd even though you never used them.
100%. I had to unbind all the keys to make sure I didn't mess up lol
Wish you made a spidertron with a remote before the rocket. It would be awesome! Cause it can be controlled only by mouse
A spidertron would have been fun (even if I can't enter it). Maybe I'll throw that in when I do the default settings revisit
Nice! Doesn't matter much for just lauching a rocket but I imagine for a longer playthrough getting a spidertron with a remote would be really nice
Would be even bit nicer if you could get in the spidetron, too. But dispatching it for building would still be nice!
@@AntipatienceOhhhh to be honest I hadn't considered that you couldn't get in 🙈
This reminds me of the run where someone played Minecraft but they couldnt do anything but right click and walk. Oh jesus why are you all gluttons for pain xD
It's funny you mention that, since I actually got the inspiration from a Minecraft stream where they were using a water bucket to move around
@@AntipatienceSmallant?
lmao, man gets this done within like 30min of qualifying for There is no spoon...
You need biters enabled for there is no spoon
This really underscores for me how much "knowing what you're doing" affects how much time it takes to beat Factorio.
I recently held a mini LAN-party with 4 other friends, and tried to get a bunch of achievements, including the 8 hour speedrun.
We beat the game in 9.5 hours..... XD
Honestly, the true end goal of this run should be to build a spider-bot.
Very impressive for someone playing the game the first time. I bet you could do quite well if you used a keyboard, maybe even launch a rocket in a day!
I can't even figure out to plan out my base proberly with a keyboard, and this dude is completing the game with mouse only
Can’t wait for the death world mouse only playthrough. A good challenge for your second time ever playing!
6:31 i think u meet the criteria now lol
Good point... Maybe we can imagine an extra 0 on it then 😆
Around 5:10 you build a bunch of steam engines. First the engine is oriented N-S, then you move the cursor over the already-built engine, the 8 engines you have in your hand go back to the inventory without any clicking, then the engines get picked up again as a full stack of 10, this time in the same orientation as the built engine, as if you hit [Q] twice. I've looked closely at the belt moving and couldn't see any skips that would indicate editing.
EDIT: I found your comment about using Mouse 5 for this. I'm using a 3-button mouse so didn't know this keybind existed.
A few years back, I think the UA-camr was French or Spanish, never have bee able to find it again, did a series with a Single Sushi Belt. Sounds easy, but it really isn't. Just one never ending belt. That could be interesting to see again.
But well done without a keyboard.
You're possibly thinking of DoshDoshington?
@@leakingamps2050 I wasn't. But thanks for the tip. Though he does seem to get rather "salty" at having to clear all the belts by hand, often. 6 lanes of belts, barely counts as sushi. I was thinking of ONE belt.
And yes I have tried it myself, and yes it is a mega-task. I failed by the way at least 4 times.
Unsure whether I'm entertained or tortured. Thanks for the vid!
This was definitely a run that was as painful for the viewers as it was for me haha
dude even ignoring the immense QOL in factorio with shift clicks and allat this seems like the most excrutiating fucking challenge in any game ive ever seen oh my god
I have no keyboard and I must expand: A hopeful engineer
This should be a speedrun category
This chatter, who non-ironically said, that's u are playing for the first time factorio 💀💀
This is great, glad I watched
Lol don't know why but at 1080p the image looks like crap
Factotio encodes terribly and I don't have the storage to comfortably record at the bitrate it needs to actually look perfect. Trying to find a balance that works, though:)
@@Antipatience The video itself is great. You'll figure out what works for you soon enough, I'm sure. Don't sweat the technical details. Instant sub. :)
(Also, "Factotio" lol. Even after you edited your comment. xD)
cool but wait sec, how u spin belts? isnt it only on "r" on keyboard?
Yessss. I watched that on your streams.
This was one of the most horrifying things I have ever watched. Few videos made me as uncomfortable as this one.
I have a suggestion for a followup. Factorio, but you can only use a steering wheel and pedals(like the ones used in racing games). Obviously would you have to re-map some stuff.
I have no wheelchair, and I must roll.
my mans still beat factorio quicker than i do WITH a keyboard
I can't believe some of the creative tricks you used to solve this
Not partnered yet? With this amount of quality suffering?
Crazy.
You got my sub.
Surprisingly good, you got my subscription
I think you are missing out on some views by using "only mouse" instead of something like "without walking" in the video title. Many people, including myself, will not realize at first glance that you need the keyboard to walk
10 minutes in and I think I need to call the Human Rights guys. This is pure self-torture I'm watching!
bro just beat Factorio without keyboard and I can't pass oil stage
Something like "play Factorio with torso" :D
How does this guy play faster without a keyboard than I can normally
I honestly had no idea fun had a key bind in factorio
you are even more crazy than the shusi belt factorio guy OMG WTF
You poor guy. I almost chopped off my finger once and couldn't use my mouse hand, it was terrible. I decided to learn how to play Dwarf Fortress rather than try stuff like this lol
As every second goes by in this video, it gets more complicated.
Just mouse? Alright, I guess no inventory is a bit bad.
Oh wait, that means no WASD
Well at least that’s not too awful.
Just kidding, you have no hot keys for inserting items.
Alright, sounds awful but it’s manageable.
Oh, and also “R” is a key, have fun rotating :)
so basically you simulated a person in a wheelchair
I didn't consider you can't even walk so this was crazy
Death world, no keyboard run when?
Love the video :P
Very creative challenge and solution!
Nice editing and commentary!
Mouse only Ultimate Ironman
This time do it in a rampant death world! With burner belts lol
I once did something like that in rimworld, because my keyboard was broken and i was bored. Surprisingly it was absolutely playable and pretty convenient.
Well, Rimworld is very optimised for mouse control. You can do anything just by clicking and dragging. Factorios Controls are not at all like that. ^^‘
Nice. But.. base is a bit.. yeah...
How good is Factorio
It's pretty good, but it's a bit weird they don't have keyboard support on a PC game
upvote because G600 is the best mouse I've ever had the opportunity of owning.
I do want to know what mod was used to make everything under snow. Would love to have a pretty vanilla playthrough like that
It's called big winter and it's very pretty. Then there's also an ice option for it that makes water look frozen over.
Mate, this is pain
я так делал когда у меня клавиатура сломалась :D
Haha ok now do it with forced belt immunity with solar panels only (so you can only more with belts at night lol)
Have you ever done a 100% achievements deathworld run? DDRJake's was excellent to watch, and I'd love to see a player of your caliber do it.
I don't have to chose suffering. Its the default mode of my life.
How did you get the refinery ghosts at 8:10 without having them unlocked and without using external blueprints (which you said you weren't using)? Their research required fluid handling, which requires automation 2, which isn't available in your game yet
There's a game setting "show all items in selection lists" which makes all items visible when filtering things
factorio but all your keyboard buttons broke
I almost had that as the title lol
Alright. Alright. BUT. Can you play Factorio with only a mouse while playing Factorio with only a keyboard??
Double the Factorio. Double the screen. Completely fk up the controls because you're a masochist gamer.
Petrolium after 4 hours into the run? Seems like my common playtrough xd
Thats patience man
bro that factory looks better than the one i made with a keyboard
if you have side buttons you can bind those and scroll wheel button to moving, and move in 3 directions(right, top left, bottom left). rotate on scrolling could be useful too
Would have made it a lot easier, for sure. That's why I banned rebinding thing
Will this be a new speedrun category?
hows the partnership going in post ad-pocaylpse days?
5:10 u took ur mouse over the boiler and pressed q? My be wrong tho
Nvm
the new lazy bastard 2.0 achievement
Thy has been blessed by the algorithm
for someone with your nickname, you got a lot of patience 🙂
Congrats on partnership!
nice run now do it with biters
Aaaaaaand, yep! It’s all over the screen!😅👊 DATTEBAYO, fellas!
DATTEBAYO! Now it’s all over my classmates and teacher 😅👊 only sigmas can like this comment!
Couldn't you make 4 blueprints with the blue toolbar button containing an object in each direction? Will the last blueprint chosen update the rotation? Then you could have 4 belts and update direction accordingly
Blueprints don't change the cursor direction, they just store their own rotation. So one blueprint with a bunch of rotations works better as long as there's space
@@Antipatience got it, thank you for explaining!
If and when you do the biter version it would be rad if you did it with absolutely no settings changes (so standard world standard spawns etc)
For sure, I'd want to try it default map gen. That's the part of the reason I ran that script: to see if it was likely enough to find a map
AH THATS EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID AT THE END OF THE VIDEO! WOW!
I liked and subbed and commented only with a keyboard!