1uz front facing intake manifold - initial thoughts - review - clumatetune. Aftermarket 1uz intake
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- Опубліковано 1 бер 2020
- Link to the manufacturers website below
www.clumatetune.com/
Link to the video of Jordy Coles twin turbo RX7 1UZ on the Dyno
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The Cartune Company (2003) Ltd in New Zealand does 1uz and 3uz conversions / parts and wiring. We have been working on UZ Toyota V8 engines since 2004 when we did our own Hiace van to transport dirtbikes around NZ. Since then we have swapped to doing mainly just Lexus V8 work from a family owned farm hidden away in our paradise , surrounded by the NZ native bush. We sell parts and simple to follow wiring instructions for the 1uzfe engines. For enquiries email info@thecartunecompany.co.nz Take Care. Kelvin - Авто та транспорт
Nice unbiased video mate, thank you. I nearly bought one of these a few years back before they got rubbished by some other company I won't name. I have gone a different route on my custom forward facing intake now unfortunately but look forward to more updates on these. Cheers Kelvin.
Thanks. I was trying to be independent and let people know they have options. Any talk on these intakes has been silenced in some platforms or guys just say they are shit without backing it up. I'm looking forward to more testing myself with more to come. Cheers Kelvin
Great video!!! Very thorough. Thank you and can't wait for the vvti
Same. Hopefully I can get my hands on one of the first items. Cheers Kelvin
Apart from the topic, I like the cricket sound in the background, thank you for the review! No chance for me to see it in real life
Thanks coordinating the crickets was hard work, especially as they have bombarding my workshop ar night. Cheers Kelvin
I finally got my t100 running with 1uz im using auto for now till I can save up for manual coversion stoked!!!
Well done. THats a big step forward. Cheers Kelvin
Hey Kelvin, with Jordy's car the 510kw we got was on a different dyno to the one it was previously tuned on but the numbers didn't really show the gains we could feel. The power figures were lower than we expected, mods also included the down pipes being 3 inch instead of 2 1/2 inch We will get it retuned on the first dyno to see the true difference in power, like for like comparison. The car definitely runs better than before the mods though. Stay tuned.
Hello Grahame. Great to hear its been developed further. The E85 supply issue in NZ may cause a few problems for motorsport over here for a bit. We will catch up again. Cheers Kelvin
Good ol Kelvin good video mate keep it up
Thanks.
The manifold certainly looks the part. I to have done a little experimenting with my 1uz. I have just finished building a upper intake manifold but went in an entirely different direction as mine has a carb flange. Over the weekend I have been getting it running and it run and sounds really good. My fabrication skills are no where near as good as the person who built you manifold but mine works good with no vacuum leaks or fuel leaks. I have quite a few hours into building it its actually the third go on learning what works and what doesn't. Anyways I'm pretty proud of it and thought I would share yet another way some of your subscribers are modifying their projects.
Very cool. I find it interesting what guys are up to and even if the result might not be as planned the learning along the way is great. At the end of the day this is about sharing information. Good work to you. Cheers Kelvin.
Im so glad this channel exists
Cool as. Cheers Kelvin
@@CartuneNZ is there a way to fully disable trac control my research is fruitless and theres no button for it...i pulled the fuse but the light is still off..96 sc400
@@diszruptiveent3634 traction control is easy to disable. I remove it on every conversion and wiring job I do which started as traction option. Cheers
@@CartuneNZ im still confused im not sure if its on or off despit the fuse missing the light isnt on
Great video buddy, I saw the one you posted when you were at the track on the drift s13. Seems like a nice manifold, and it’s true that the community will have ppl with different opinions, but I’m definitely interested in these. Would be nice to see what the gains are for guys that wants to run it on an NA setup, I think those numbers will bring a lot of information to make ppl decide better 😊👌🏾
Hello. Thats my plan. Given time I hope to have one run up on a stock engine with stock intake and swap over to this intake. The worldwide climate delayed these plans a bit. Dyno is planned and Ive done a deal with a mate. Injectors have arrived so hopefully before the end of the year Ill have that sorted. I also have a customer building a high HP NA engine with NOS and one of these intakes so watching that build as well. Cheers
CartuneNZ sounds like lots of good stuff is in works. I’ll keep an eye out
Those welds look so pretty
They sure do.
That manifold looks so simple its hard to imagine it working properly but I havent seen one on a running engine so I'll take your word for it. With the better flow, I thing some bigger cams and headwork would be needed as well. Great vid!
The verdict on Naturally aspirated is still out but boosted those using them seem to agree that more power over 6000rpm. I'm not saying they are the best thing out there and definately want to spend more time checking them over. Cheers Kelvin
It will have the same affect that any short runner big plenum manifold has on any engine. Trade low end hp/tq for top end power. If the engine mostly performs above 4500rpm its a worth while upgrade if its setup for low end power then you may notice the loss of torque. On a boosted engine the gains up top will be more drastic while the loss in the low end wouldnt be so noticeable due to usually the higher amount of HP/tq boosted motors make compared to NA ones
Good looking intake for what it is. A real shame it can’t clear the factory coolant inlet but like you said, it’s just part of modifying cars.
The factory tps is a nice touch
Factory TPS is a very nice touch. I already have begun planning with a coolant housing cut and welded. Research will continue. Cheers Kelvin
Skid Factory are now selling their own design intake for 1UZ for $600aus.
Ive seen that. I would like to compare a few different intakes as Elite also offer a unit similar to the skid factory one. Since this video there have been some new stockists for this item pop up around the world too. Its nice to see more options out there for 1uz guys. Cheers Kelvin
CartuneNZ 1UZ is the new 2JZ and did you hear the Hoff from “Nugget Garage” channel call it the second best engine ever made? That’s one bold statement but who am I to disagree with the Hoff man.
Can this work on 2uzfe
@@CartuneNZ Skid Factory’s design is much nicer than the others . Very free form and open . Not all squared off and flow inhibited. Actually Kelvin I am looking at that base myself for the Duster. I want to place a set of 4150 throttle bodies on top . I like the dual quad look of the 60’s and 70’s.
I also thought about a 4150 to ford/gm adapter and two DBW throttle bodies especially if I go with a turbo.
Hey, great interview the other night (errrr…. Day ?!) with Brian from LunarOutlawsgarage !
Hey Kelvin, love the vids so much info. What size injector would you recommend. To start with for this kit. Thanks in advance
Hello. Depends on your engines state of tune. There are some good injector calculators. A rough guide is 1cc per HP. Road cars stay as small as possible , with a race car operating at higher rpm more add a bit more to maintain injector timing. I have an injector video. Cheers Kelvin
What the heck! You should be getting paid for this video. I want one bad! It is because of your awesome channel. I don't think many people know the possibilities of a 1uz. Thanks to to you people will begin to know.
Thanks. Us kiwis have been playing with 1uz for years now , they rest of the world is just starting to catch up. Cheers Kelvin
I’m getting ready to start a 1UZ swap on my A70 or MK3 Supra, planning on adding a pair of Borg Warner S366 turbos and giving this manifold some serious thought
OK. they work well with a turbo engine. Cheers Kelvin
Can you, or have you heard of, machining the 2UZ-FE into a 6-Bolt Main.?? I read of it, seen the photos of it being done, but how would the integrity stand up to it, just your thoughts please?
what is the idea behind the velocity stacks sticking up into the plenum body so far? that's the nicest chinese welding I have ever seen outside of shipyards
Is it possible to switch the injector plugs and run on the factory ecu, or run adapters on the 1uz injectors?
Hey, Kevin was wondering if you are doing a full installation video of this. As I've got one and would like to see best install
No plans for install video at this point due to our workload.
are these still being produced? What about tuning stand alone I'm guessing. Sorry skippin around the video couldn't find the info.
Looks like not much thought was given to making sure clearance issues were taken care of. Close but needs a bit of fine tuning, design-wise.
About as good as its gonna get with that throttle body, it's already in the way of some hoods, if it was any taller to try and clear second Gen coolant crossover it would most likely require cutting a hole in the hood. There's tradeoffs when trying to fit a straight/short runner big plenum intake manifold. Just like 2js, barras, RBs, LS. There's always. Modifications that have to be made when fitting aftermarket Intakes. If you don't need to shift the power band to the right. higher in the rpm range on UZ due to having one or more, cams/turbo/ported heads/standalone ecu. Then this manifold won't due much and you may lose some lower rpm torque.
A quick question regarding front water bridges. Mine has the large lump like this blue rocker cover engine here. However, there is also a large sensor with a blue cap threaded in there.
If I were to look for a smooth top water bridge like ole yeller’s to delete that sensor and hump, what year engine would I find it on perhaps?
Lots of jdm engines have the lower watee bridge, otherwise a flap disc will sort it with easy.
Some people just spit up what there mates say. Nothing wrong with this manifold I am a dealer for Clumate and they work well
Correct. Hope your cars are going well
does this fit the 1uz fe vvti ?
Nice to happen upon these clips! Thanks for all the time and work in these! I like to see manifold ports with meat left inside the gaskets so as to enable my own matched blending.
Interested to know what formula is used to establish the port lengths, diameters, ram tube intrusion and top rolled edge. The rev range intended for power v torque etc. Can you steer me to your clips that show more outcomes to this manifold please.
I have videos of two vehicles running these intakes. ua-cam.com/video/JhcJDb1YZyQ/v-deo.html and ua-cam.com/video/25M3-0yLUhY/v-deo.html. I dont have other info at this point in time. Cheers Kelvin
Does this fit on a stock 3UZ-FE??
What I really want is a plenum to go around my independent throttle bodies so I can add boost
That might need your own custom setup. I may have also done a deal on some ITB. Haha. I couldn't help myself. What brand of ITB do you have? Cheers Kelvin.
OBX, the ebay ones... the throttles themselves are 4age items and i wouldnt be surprised if they were genuine toyota items, build quality is excellent. The manifolds on the other hand left a bit to be desired
I know more about those than many know which I cant talk about publically. The set I just did a deal on are obx too. I wonder if anyone else would be interested in boost suitable intakes for obx itb? The makers of these might make some if there was demand.
CartuneNZ probably not to be honest, $1500 for the quads plus another $500 for a plenum is probably too much of an investment for such negligable gains. Im only doing it because i already have the quads and theres the ‘coolness factor’
@@rickjames3034 ok. Itb are like sex to my ears.
My water temperature sensor and the dash water temp reader is on the front right next to the water coolant filler bolt🤦🏻
I'm really curious to see what that would do to a stock engine with a stock ecu. Although I guess different injectors would also make a difference.
I am thinking the same thing. I have one (or three) soarers here to use on tests however I'd really like a ucf20 celsior (non vvti, again I have a vvti here as a test rig) to try with the later afm and also want to make an adaptor for aftermarket ecu. It may happen yet. Cheers Kelvin
Did you ever do a video on an aftermarket vvt intake?
Not yet. They are still in development
If it were a bit higher, then you could change the starter without removing the intake. :D
HP gains be damned. There's the upgrade!
Its kind of funny seeing the starter motor to be honest. Not something thats normally visable on a 1uz.
@@CartuneNZ I found a rat`s nest under my intake :)
Hi Kelvin, it’s been a while since you posted on this, did you ever put one on a NA motor? I just want one to clean up the look of the engine really but don’t want to compromise performance for it.
Have worked on a few on NA engines these days. They are ok but better with other mods too
@@CartuneNZ thanks Kelvin, hoping to do cams, exhaust, ecu with dbw tb and widebands.
Be curious to see about the vvti. What way it will affect the power and where in the Revs it loess or pic it up
Hello David. So am I. The non vvti intake improved power over 6K in noticable amounts. Fingers crossed I will be getting a VVti one when they are ready. Cheers Kelvin
Can’t wait to see it. Keep up the videos
Are there any dual manifold plenums? Maybe one that seems to use two separate RB22 intakes? This may supply individual forced induction. Please respond. I am actually curious.
There are a few guys which have made their own duals , with a small balance pipe. Here is one example. ua-cam.com/video/3KKcoJWRfX4/v-deo.html
How do you feel about running ITB’s on the 1uz? I heard people have run the 20v 4age black top individual throttle bodies. But I can’t find intake adapters. I know OBX has them for 1400.00. But I’m like you. I love to DIY and make things with parts from other vehicles and save money
I may have a set of ITB coming. A mate of mine designed the early sets which one of his first sales was to OBX. He still has blank manifolds which he may sell separately. Itb are like sex to my ears. Awesome sounds. Cheers Kelvin
Amen. When I hear that WAAAAAHHHHHH. I get goosebumps. Do you have a website you sell parts on? So I can keep an eye out
Looks nice, where is a link to buy? Cant find price on clumateune
Hello. Use the contact page and flick them an Email. Say you watched this video and they will sort it out. They may refer you to another distributor or may sell one direct. Cheers Kelvin
I was hoping for a vid like this.
6:30 Old yeller getting a upgrade?
Whats the company's name?
Old yella is my wiring slut so it gets many different setups for a short time. At one point I should look into its oil pressure issue but too busy atm. The company is www.clumatetune.com/ Cheers Kelvin
Seen the site. They need prices on there
A quick email will get prices. They like to give a delivered price with freight hence I think why they dont list prices. They may also refer you onto someone who might have the intake locally to you if there is one. Cheers Kelvin
Be nice if they raised the roof just a little but tapered it off a little towards the rear to help with more even cylinder spread but id be happy to run one on a low boost type application. They seem to be ok untill start pushing them too much they seem start lacking flow at rear 2 cylinders but overall seem to work ok. Be good to see dyno back to back with stock manifold and individual cylinder afrs
I also think some internal strength would help, plugs welded between top and bottom to reduce flexing. I only know of them being run 21 psi so far with more research planned for the future. While I accept they might not be perfect however in real world guys are getting good results and good gains over 6000rpm.
@@CartuneNZ agree. If raised roof and tapered it off in a triangle style shape would add lots of strength and less sharp low strength areas if that makes sence. Wouldnt be hard to modify. They seem to do pretty well for what they are, if could run individual wideband to check each cylinder afrs and tune each to suite dont see why they wouldn't work in higher boost applications either aside from strength issues
@@benyreny7813 the d1nz car which I mentioned runs at 590rwkw had a reweld and strength added. I spoke with the engine builder today who makes championship winner superstock speedway cars over here admitted they pushed it harder to 660rwkw but brought it back to a more manageable level. He was pleasantly surprised how well they work. Like anything, dyno time could net some further gains. At present pricing levels I think it is reasonable value for money as there aren't many options out there. Cheers Kelvin
@@CartuneNZ yep, that seems be the biggest issue i seen with them, especially the earlier ones seemed to split at welds at the rear pretty easily but seems be better ones about now. But as youd know corners, less surface area per piece and triangles would make them solid and not flex and crack. Have seen videos of lots different chinese style manifold on all different engines and they all seem to have it in common of 1 big flat peice of material thats too thin, cause the surface area causes them to flex and then crack. If the tops where made say 20mm higher, but tapered in and down towards the rear would stop the flex and sort the issues of running a straight plenum by adding a taper to help air speeds to the rear cylinders for better even flow to the rear 2 cylinders. But yeh for what they are they work pretty well, id love see individual cylinder afrs, particularly say rear 2 compared to front 2
@@benyreny7813 I'm sure the supplier will also be reading these comments so hopefully everyone can benefit from further improvements. Im hopeing to do more testing too and looking forward to the vvti version.
Hey how’s a going, I’m from the states in California and I have a 95 SC400 I’m doing a manual swap, I deleted all my cruise control and am going to be doing this intake manifold upgrade however two concerns come to mind, the IACV or known as the cold start motor, and the power steering idle valve, how would running this intake affect the IACV if it is removed and would a tune be needed or Will the ecu automatically adjust for it
The stock ecu will only be able to compensate for it if you have the stock MAF. But if you use that it's just a restriction since it's smaller Than the 80mm throttle body.. Just get a stand alone and use an electronic throttle body so you can delete the iacv and have cruise control/traction control. However the manifold does come with the ability to use the stock iacv. Also you're gonna loose low rpm torque going to a shorter runner manifold. And if you don't Rev it higher or have cams or some sort of forced induction your not really gonna see any gains. Long tube headers can help offset the loss in torque (like 20in primaries).
And as for the idle up valve there are a couple of vacuum npt ports on the manifold just choose one to screw it into, and if you need more ports run a vacuum manifold off one of the existing ports to expand how many vacuum sources you can connect. Pretty straight forward. If you are confused by any of this do some research and get a friend who's mechanically inclined to guide you.
Wouldnt it be more efficient if the runners didn't stick up inside the Intel? Will this close on a soarer hood I wonder? Hmmm
Unfortunately with the TB at the front I don't think the stock soarer bonnet is going to close fully. Having the runners allows for the ram tubes to work correctly which improves flow. Funny I know but it works. One thing to note is the early ones had less protrusion of the tubes inside the intake. I will be looking into this more. Cheers Kelvin
@@CartuneNZ good info and just wondering does the flow improve from being so long/tall I thought the whole point was to get the air to the runners as quick as possible? Just seems a bit tall or maybe it's just me......update when possible thank mate.
can you take that Forward facing manifold and make it Rear facing?
I assume so because you can flip the OEM manifold.
I want to run this engine in a mid-engine so it needs to face to the rear.
Yes, flips fine, maybe even easier than stock
@@CartuneNZ ok so the final question on using this manifold, how did it fit under bonnet and what specific car was it for? which one is taller.....
I've been researching the internet for hours and thanks to your video i conclude that there is still 114mm of plenum sitting on top of that huge bolt that the manifold is hitting.
I got my measurements from pics off the website that sells that manifold in China.
Clumatune has theirs at 21.5cm actual standing height.
and the 1uz from the bottom of the pan to the top of that bolt it's hitting would be 610mm
@@mac1mike it wasn't made for a specific car. It's a universal piece. Their website even says you may need clearance hoods, specifically the area above the throttle body. They are within 10mm of each other, the sheet metal one is shorter (stated in the vid) but it's longer which is why the throttle body may come in contact with a hood.
Have you guys tried doing those manifolds on a 2uzfe ?
The 2uz manifold design is like a vvti engine so this intake does not fit a 2uz.
Hi Kelvin, any chance you know of anyone running this intake in the real world- and- specifically, how on earth did they sort an IACV? Would be nice to get it to idle well, and iacv would sort it nicely, but no provision for one. Any thoughts?
I know of several being used on different cars. Several are race cars so no iac, some have drive by wire throttle bodies so that sorts idle control as well otherwise some have fitted external iac and some welded a weld on kitset to the underneath or rear.
@@CartuneNZ I reckon something like a weld-on 2jz iac would do it. You’ve got me thinking!
Back needs a hydroformed round back, the volume should taper to the back, and the horns need to be bigger and you will see even better gains... I mean, for the money, not bad at all either way...
I agree there could be improvements to the design. As they are at present they are giving good results. For a relatively cheap item with fuel rails , intake and TB I think they are pretty good value. Cheers Kelvin
Assuming that the quality is similar, I prefer to buy something that is made in NZ or Australia, even if the price is a little more.
We need to support local manufacturers and fabricators.
Same here however I can not find anyone that offers a similar product at this point in time. The closest I can find is $2500aud with over a years wait, and it doesnt really compare. With something like this there is still things like air intake before throttle body, top water bridge, engine breathers which can all be done locally. Then the aftermarket ecu and wiring to go so still plenty of local content.
@@CartuneNZ It's staggering, and sad, that with all the materials, equipment and talent we have on both sides of the ditch we can't come up with a competitively priced product in a reasonable amount of time.
Unfortunately there have been people who have not allowed this intake to be presented to potential purchasers. What happens when people buy stuff is it often creates more demand and other suppliers enter the market. As a result of this video it is now getting to retailers in the USA and hopefully increase in sales will see other suppliers enter the market. Thats good for everyone. The NZ and OZ market is tiny for this stuff but the USA and rest of the world is massive.
@@CartuneNZInteresting. Let's hope you're correct re: increased exposure = increase in suppliers, from other markets, which I agree will be good for everyone!
Ive already seen it happening with other stuff I have promoted and other guys doing similar stuff to me are improving their workmanship and products as well to keep up with me. All of which is good for customers, provided my competitors are following I'm happy. Cheers Kelvin.
Will this intake manifold work with a 1999 lexus sc 400 , 4.0 l v8
Is your 99 a factory sc400 with the vvti engine? Then no, non vvti intakes dont fit the vvti engine.
can you go over the 1uz head on 2 uz block?
If that sort of job gets booked in however its unlikely. My mate did one over 10 years ago now. Its for sale again in the USA. Cheers Kelvin
@@CartuneNZ thanks Bro!
Anybody know if this or similar is available for Vvti yet ?
Its in development at the moment. Cheers Kelvin
Any update on these?
Lots of people are using them, I see lots getting sold around the world. Cheers Kelvin
@@CartuneNZ cheers
I would hazard a guess anyone using this manifold would likely rework the thermo housing etc anyway
Often , and it's not really an issue. I cut one up the other day and threw it into the pile to be welded. Im already planning future testing , it did take me a couple of months to sort this video out. Cheers Kelvin
Can it work on a 2uzfe???
No, the 2uz head design is like a 1uz vvti or 3uz and they do not interchange with the early non vvti design. I am aware there is both vvti and non vvti 2uz however tbeir head design on both are similar castings therefore both dont interchange with early engines. Cheers Kelvin
@@CartuneNZ ok so what can I use I need one for my car
@@rajautomusic3969 this company is working on a vvti version which will fit the 2uz, however I don't have a date its expected to be ready. Another option would be a custom made unit.
So it doesn't fit. There is no "maybe" or "sorta"... either it fits neatly or it doesn't. I would be sending that product straight back, along with another video highlighting the problems, and getting refund.
**Edit** I just looked at the website. You bought chinese junk. From a site/company with no providence. You get what you pay for...
It fits provided the correct procedure is followed. I put 1uz into lots of different vehicles where modifications is normal. I'm totally aware its Chinese and was fully aware of it when I brought it along with most fitment requirements however I had to search to find info on bleeder which onceI knew I did find on a distributor website.. You get exactly what you pay for and so far given the results people are getting on boosted engines the results are a lot better than many people care to admit. If you dont like it I'd suggest its not for you but at least you this video has given you what you need to make that decision. My main goal is getting this info out there so people can make a decision. There are those out there that have attempted to not allow people that choice. Cheers Kelvin