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Top 5 Archer Civilizations in AoE2
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- Опубліковано 14 сер 2024
- Top 5 ranking of the archers from all Age of Empires 2 civilizations, including the expansions.
#5 0:42
#4 1:40
#3 2:40
#2 3:30
Honorable Mentions 4:20
#1 5:55
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And the best archer civilization is... the Saracens!
*spits tea*
imagine if he said spanish
Even your name fits into this lol
Yeah, didn't notice
gunjeet singh imagine Spanish intro
tfw spoilers are top rated comments. my mistake but your dishonor
Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Fatslob The Wise? I thought not. It’s not a story the Arabia players would tell you. It’s a Viking legend. Darth Fatslob was a Viking Lord of Black Forest, so powerful and so patient he could use Siege and Walls to influence his opponents to stop... raids… He had such a knowledge of Black Forest that he could make his opponents resign with full resources. The defensive gameplay is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be... unnatural. He became so powerful… the only thing he was afraid of was losing a game after 5 hours, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught Voobly everything he knew, then some of the players started posting their victories against him in his wall. Ironic... he could save others from being attacked, but not himself.
how does this not have more likes
Jaqen H'ghar Is it possible to learn this power?
@@DGlad91 Not from an Arabia player.
Great story. Loved T90 s Legend of Gatslob videos..
Enough of that, I m calling mace spirit lawindu to deal with you, stay where you are
"Without thumb ring the longbows aren't that accurate..."
Proceeds to show clip of longbows sniping unit after unit.
"Saracens, you call that a team bonus? That's adorable, get outta here."
A Mayan with Saracen team mate is a very scary thing.
A Mayan with a Briton team mate is a very very scary thing
Don't forget the Chinese! "Good job Saracens, you did a thing".
It is almost as good as the Inca's bonus.
hey ! rehelekretep here from DW. always funny seeing you here :3
I saw the Mayans and Britons ranking coming from a mile away due to your comment on the Mayans Overview video, but love the vid nevertheless. Huge props for the little Saracens gag that gave me a giggle despite you picking on their team bonus almost being a running joke!
You sir are a highly inquisitive person.
I better be as a potential future academic ;)
:D
Volcano4981 it wouldn't be Spirit of the Law if he don't bother the sarracens
Good point. XD
That Saracens joke was brilliant!
On the subject of the Britons, I’ve never really been able to work out if Thumb Ring is actually all that important. Yes, it can help raiding, but if you’re just firing longbows into a massed-up army, in all likelihood you’re still going to hit something, and Thumb Ring might just mean you overkill a few units to the detriment of the rest of the army.
I think the Vikings should have had an honorable mention due to them having the best early economy bonus in the game along with the full Archer tech tree. I mean their is a reason why Vikings almost always go archers in feudal.
Yep, vikings abhor horses :p
Absolutely right. I would them even give the only honourable mention !
Italians should be on the list rather than viets, italians get unique tecnology + full tech tree. and eco bonus.
I am From The Future
Vikings dont have Thumb Ring Anymore
@@MrBloodomer downvote.. but also upvote...til bardaga...
Mine is Spanish...
You cannot call a civ an archer civ when their archers are replaced with crossbows!
:V
Plumed Archer, Longbowman and Rattan Archers?
Longbowman aren't strictly archers though. It's not in their name.
@@ravenknightvincent2722 That's actually right. Also, knights aren't cavalry because of their name...
@@randomcommenter494 but wait, scout cavalry and light cavalry are cavalry but hussar isn't
Halbs aren't men....
Cool idea, nice editing, well explained, Yes, it`s a video from spirit of the law :)!
After playing some games as the italians, I've come to the conclusion that the Genoese crossbowmen are very powerful.
First there's the shock factor of your paladins dying to crossbows without much effort, then there's stuff like they can hold their own against skirmishers and other ranged units. I once saw them massacre an army of battle elephants in 10 seconds!
Amusingly, their biggest counter is halbs.
wat
I am a mameluke and i find this offensive
joedalton155 MAMELUKE must be...
Spirit is a mamelukephobic
So you are Türk ?
@@malik2709 You arent teacher and your words are lie
@@Boykofan oh.. thanks for the information.
I’m here from the future & all I gotta say is: RIP Mayans.
Because of the hu’elche javelineers?
@@roelofsonneveld1049 , the Obsiden Arrows, they're gone. 🦀🦀🦀
@@emilyding2496 I know, I just don’t think obsidian arrows is that much better than hue’lche javileneers (don’t know how to spell it)
@@roelofsonneveld1049 , if you own the HD edition of AoE2, just try those motherfreakers out. They shred TCs, Castles, and even fortified walls. Watch some of the T90's 2v2 World Cup vids, one of them is dedicated about how insane Obsiden Arrows can be. It's not a joke. 40 Mayan Arbs kill castle faster than Siege Rams
@@roelofsonneveld1049 , the new mayan skirts tech can actually be quite more useful then people thought. And they can shred through buildings as well since for some reason their second projectile does one sold damage no matter how much pierce armor a building/unit has. Making Castle take 2 atk than 1. And with a Saracen Ally, it becomes 4.
I just discovered the Persians as my archer civ. They only cost wood with the Persians special bonus, so you can spam them out like the cheapest trash unit. Combine that with the raiding Paladins, the tanky Elephants & the faster working TCs.. oh I m in love with the Persians! :D
I am subscribed for more than a year now - never played AoE2 though.
Today, I finaly bought the game on steam and can't wait to play it - I wasn't such excited for a long time.
Great video and hope you continue this series! We need someone to do top 5s or top 10s in the community and this was perfect! You can extend this to top other units, tops civilizations on certain maps, top maps, top ... moments, ect... Its really endless
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Love #University
And then, out of nowhere, Persians : "FREE ARCHERS !"
05:27 Me: "So, Maya no thing anymore? kayyyyy....."
05:58 Spirit: "Wololol"
Rogan?
@@IllyrianTiger99 Mandatum
Back In Nam, They shot us real hard with their Rat'Tan archers
"back in nam"
Nam? lol
M16 rounds can't pierce their rice hats I take it?
I'm sexually identified as a rattan archer and I find this offensive
@@whossoap355 LOL in Vietnamese the North is Bac and the South is Nam
House Frey sure has the best crossbowmen.
But House Tyrell has the best farmers!
*GROWING STRONG!*
The North remembers...
Tarik Durmis Top 5 dagger civs coming up next?
Good point sire. And house targaryen has the best dragons.
Attack bonus VS villagers and Kings.
My ranking would be: 1. Mayans 2. Italians 3. Britons 4. Vietnamese 5. Ethiopians. I think the Italians having a bonus for each of their 4 foot archers paired with the fact they all counter different things is highly underrated. You can make an army of skirmishers (more armor, counters archers) Genoese Xbow (counters cavalry) hand cannoneers (cheaper, counters infantry) and arbalests (more armor, general purpose) and crush anything your opponent throws at you
Christian Butler then the enemy just spams onagers and rams and GG
Italian skirms don’t have extra armor, Pavise doesn’t affect them anymore. Other than that you’re right
Christian Butler that and the cheaper age up upgrade, that helps a lot
Plus they have Pavise unique tech - no mention in this video
@Fernando JS who loses their italian archers to siege late game with a civ that gets a super fast imp time, that comes with a fully-upgraded-for-free-3/4-Huskarl? and how am i the first one mentioning the obvious a year later?
Every time you upload it bring a smile to my face. Thank you and keep up the good work!
I HAVE ACHIEVED CRITICAL MASS
*unexpected savage onager shot*
That mass, of course, is 90 kilograms, and the distance is 300 meters.
YOU get an archer! YOU get an archer! EVERYONE GET'S AN ARCHERRRRR!!!!!!
Mayans as #1 and Britons as #2 was pretty much set in stone and I believe almost nobody would object. The rest #3-#6 spots are also easy to point out with the Chinese, Ethiopians, Italians and Vitnamese, though their specific ranking is up for debate and cannot be 100% determined imho, since they are quite different from one another.
In the ranking system of Spirit of the Law, I would say Britons and Mayans are A+, Chinese, Ethiopians, Italians and Vitnamese are A or A-, and all other Civs rank at B+ or lower. This is all ignoring Horse Archers and Hand Cannons. With these in mind, the ranking is a lot harder, but I think for foot archers, Spirit of the Law did a great job with the ranking, though some might argue between specific placements. Still I don't think anyone would have a much different view.
Oh I object to both. The Mayans don't have a good answer to anything with high pierce armor. The britons are quickly out-shot by other factions that get in range.
That 'against high pierce armour' thing is probably the only thing that keeps the Mayans from being totally OP tbh. And Plumes still deal 2 dmg to Huskarls per shot because of +1 vs Infantry so it's a bit better than a generic archer.
With the Brits, Mayans and Vietnamese are your safest bet for 'closing the distance', as well as the aforementioned Huskarls - the rest will get peppered before they even get in range though. A high rate of fire means nothing if you are dead. :p
I knew Mayans were going to be 1º and Saracens would be made fun of because of their team bonus, hilarious :D.
Sometimes I just randomly re-watch some of your videos. Your dedication to this game is admirable.
That straight face while saying "Saracens' team bonus is useful for breaking down walls quickly" should get you an award. Because I actually thought for a split second you got lost in what video you were narrating.
Sniping castles with swarms of longbowmen is so fun. Love the Britons.
With a Saracen ally
Tocaraca I need to try this! The archers will be sooo much more effective!
I know I'm late to the party - but yeah, even if it doesn't win for raw damage against buildings, the Saracen-allied Briton Longbows are actually quite frightening against Castles, even, when they're in a decent-sized group. If you can just protect them from getting picked off by Huskarls, Skirmishers or Onagers, you're golden - while you may not raze their Castles very quickly, you're effectively untouchable for a good amount of time, for all intents and purposes, and can keep dealing damage from well out of the enemy's range. Then you can bring the Rams out while your opponent is effectively 'suppressed' by the sheer volume of arrows flying out at all directions.
... again, all assuming you can protect the Longbowmen well.
Until you discovered that is a teutonic castle
Haha, you had me there for a second, Spirit! I was like: "Huh, Saracens? I wonder what kind of marvelous explanation he has for why the're so good. Oh wait, he's trolling." XD
silly me for thinking you seriously forgot the Mayans LMAO
Obviously, the Spanish are the best archer civ. Pony mounted archers with lead projectiles are superior in every way imaginable.
I'm a simple man. I get a notification that SOTL uploaded a video, I drop everything and watch the video.
Same. left my meal in the microwave, this is much more important
Age of Numbers is really good like sotl 😉
Neeri The Dragon also an unoriginal one.
dropped my newborn baby for this vid
Would be cool to see a “top 5 generalist civs” breakdown. Look at cigs that may not be very good at any one thing but do well across the board.
I love that these videos are still relevant for new players, whether they want to play casual or serious.
Hi Spirit. I really appreciate what you do. I´ve been watching you since the very first japanesse overview civ and i could improve my game thanks to you. I think that aoe2 community has grown up on by the work of youtubers like you who show that aoe2 isnt just an ordinary game. In fact, its an unique piece of art. Thank you very much and keep making vids. Thumbs up for Vietnamese overview!!!
Hey man, if you abuse the market for the saracens (namely selling 300 stone as soon as you hit feudal), you can do an incredibly mean archer rush. Not to mention you can also fast castle by 14:40 (25 villagers+loom) without interrupting your economy and immediately start making two cavalry archers at a time right as you hit castle age (who DO shred through walls)
Hey SOTL! Really appreciate your rational videos and humor.
Spirit Of The Law uploads and I have brief moment of satisfaction! Keep up the good work bud!
I usually don't subscribe, but when i do i make sure it's spirit of the law!!
You sir have my respect. :)
I was getting ready to watch some corn movies but phuck me, here comes a SotL notification. Guess I have to wait for another 7 mins.
corn movies?
You strange, strange man.
Is it strange that I watch children of the corn?... the movie series? why would y... oh... OH NO! GET YOUR MIND OUT OF THE GUTTER YOUNG MAN!
Yeah but the chinese, brits and mayans can make use of the sarracen bonus quite well
At 3:50 I thought there was a single massive longbowmen behind the regular ones lol
Saracens was a must-have to feature here. Hilarious way you added it in though. Keep up the good work :D
As a Mayan player pretty much every game I was sat here fuming when he said Saracens #1, only to be made look foolish about 10 seconds later :') great vid SOTL
So i just found this channel and I am definitely an aoe noob, but even I can see the controvercy behind the saracen bait. Great channel btw!
I've always been more of an Archer and Siege favoring civilization player. Britons, Mayan's and Turk's were some of my personal mains.
The Saracen are my #1 most infuriating civilization. I WANT to love them. The ideas behind them are interesting and fantastic. Archers that can take down walls fast, very unique market bonus, mamelukes are insanely fun to use, and an elite navy, yet almost every one of those bonuses have something wrong with them. The archer bonuses aren't nearly strong enough, their market bonus, while it is actually the most useful thing imo and way better than people think for an early game speed boost, but kind of debatable (I would really love a SotL Saracen video that analyzes this!), Mamelukes cost way too much gold, especially for the Zealotry upgrade, and the galley bonus is actually kinda meh in the new navy meta (good but not great).
Congratulations to Saracens for being the best archer civs. Really breaking down some stereotype walls with that one
It seems like forever for me ti see a new video, but they are really great and that's what is important.
The extra arrows actually do 3 damage on the chu-ko-nu, it's just that armor almost always neutralizes this down to 1.
I always set defending ranged units that are behind a wall and near a gate so they stand still while firing. If they are on a setting where they can move, they may chase a moving enemy thru the gate and the moment the gate opens, the enemy will rush in and kill them.
Finally!
I hope you continue this series for the other types 😊
Love the card reading! Thanks for all your help SotL!
Nothing better than seeing a Spirit of The Law overview vid :3
Does the Saracen bonus only work on the Chu ko nu first attack, or do they legitimately melt buildings with a Saracen team mate?
Yup. I think a group of 40 is faster than a ttreb with siege engineers with saracens and fully upgrade chu ku nu
It only works for their first attack, but it still has a really big effect because the team bonus actually increases their attack vs buildings by +2, not +1. The reason that the archers deal 2 damage to buildings (rather than 3 like you'd expect, because of 1 base damage to buildings and then 2 added on) is because the pierce damage against buildings is _completely_ negated, and in the game code the value functions as 0, then you add the +2 bonus damage and you get 2 damage. When the attack value in practice comes out as just 0, the game turns it into a 1, but that's only at the end of the calculation.
Seriously, though, I hope the Saracens get a nod when you do a civilization overview of the Vietnamese; the high pierce armor of the Elite Rattan Archer, coupled with the Saracen team bonus, makes them surprisingly strong against buildings.
You actually had me there for a quick second with the Saracens. Ha ha!! Good vid.
Please do this for cavalry!
(I think being able to avoid/kill/counter spearmen is more important than slightly better cavalry, what do you think?)
You got me there with the saracens, I was trying to figure out just how and why XD. Good list!
For a second i thought that you had changed your mind on the Saracens team bonus. Well played!
With the new civilizations and the latest update (removal of Obsidian Arrows) I think this topic already deserved a new video
Mayans are one of my favourite civs. They're surprisingly good on the water as well.
I was for the first time considering disliking your video because you put Saracens as #1, as Mayans is my favorite civ and you didn't even give them an honorable mention! you totally got me! lol
Great video man keep it up!
Next:Top 5 infantry civilizations?
Probably some combination of Japanese, Goths, Teutons, Aztecs and Slavs.
svit p.n. 1. Goths
2. Goths
3. Goths
4. Goths
5. Celts
IMO:
1st: Goths
2nd: Japanese
3rd: Malays/Slavs
Cant decide for 4th and 5th really tough choice X,.,x
@Ulforce Warrior
are you kidding me, it's malians on the 1st or 2nd, their infantries have a huskarl p.Armor
Aztics are pretty good too
So, RedLetterMedia and Spirit Of The Law uploaded a video in the same day?
Oh yes.
I'd say britons have the best archers ingame(even though they dont have thumbring). its because archers are meant to do do damage from afar, and britons have the best range. in a heat of battle, when u right click on longbowman, ur units just clumps together/stops for a while/ regroups with other selected units, by that time longbowman would have killed half your army.
woke up to a new spirit of the law video. happiness.
An updated DE version of this video seems necessary for newer players. Vietnamese, Persians and especially Saracens got buffs as it seems, Mayans were nerfed. Also, I think you should add categories as in the „Best Civ“ Videos (Cavalry, Siege, Naval, ...). This could be Archer Rush, Late Game, Crossbow Play with Support Units, Value against natural counters, Amount of Micromanagement. You might come up with more.
For me it's mongols, vietnamese, chinese, mayans and britons at no.1 always liked them the most and still will... I feel like the longbowmen are just too strong
I would have give magyars an honorable mention as well. Their archers are decent for a rush with the extra line of sight, their cavalry archer are above average without being top tier, they don't lack anything in the tech tree if I recall well.
They can't be counted as archer civ, but they're still solid
Excellent top man. I really enjoy your vids :3 Keep making them!!
I cant believe i both fell for that joke and only realized until you said it wasnt them. I was just sitting here thinking “are you serious?”
It's definitely the adrenaline shot of dodging mangonel shots.. that's definitely it.
My favorite Archer civilization is the Britons. Love that extra range
Rule Britannia!
Same
How curious that I was thinking about this yesterday
I was about to rage quit before knowing the sarracens thing was a joke, good one!!
Saracens didn't even realize they were going to get an award cause they're still trying to break down that palisade wall.
@Spirit: If you were to buff or change the Saracen team bonus, what would you do with it?
I’d personally change it to affect all archers (but not skirmishers), and have it give +2 bonus damage (while reducing the Saracen CA civ bonus to compensate). This would be really handy for Huns, Mongols, etc.
It already does affect skirms
Are you sure? Have you tested it?
darkdill only 2? It needs buff like Archers Do 5+ More Damage to Buildings to be viable
a fresh video! good to see it
To add to the video, the Chu Ko Nu have 0 melee attack while it is non-existent for other archers. Since rams have -3 negative melee armor, that means rams receive 3 damage from Chu Ko Nu arrows as well.
But what if you take the Saracen team bonus and combine it with Chinese Chu-ko-nu? Can you imagine how quickly they would shred walls with all those extra projectiles?
I think he already did in the Chinese Overview video. Hell, it makes 25 Chu Ko Nu destroy a Barracks faster than a Trebuchet or a Ram!
Love your videos man, keep on doing what you do
If you are considering unique units, Korean War Wagons can be considered among the best archers in terms of their tankiness and high base attack, though they can be vulnerable to units with anti-calvary bonuses. I believe they also deserve an honorable mention.
Depending of the situation, any archer could be the best option, also depend of your style... but anyway i'll put longbows everywhere lmao
Chinese teambonus saves you wood. Though you won't profit from it very fast, that extra wood should help you add some extra archers as well
I love the music change as he says "walls".
What I think is that you had me going there with Saracens. Your videos are getting better and better. Done any casting?
This makes sense from a practical standpoint, but long bows really are fun as hell xD
Britons are extremely satisfying in large numbers with maxed out elite longbow men it gets to the point to where I can just point and click
Love the humor towards the end
As a real life mayan, im giving you a super like!
Please do infantry, cavalry, navy and so on as well. Great work!
If the theory of the Multiverse is correct and there is an infinite number of universes with UA-cam in them, then we live in the universe with the best UA-cam channel: SOTL
Hey there Spirit! Any chance of more of these top (unit type) civs videos? And more importantly : updated videos about civ team-up (pls ?) Many thanks and great, precisely detailed vids as always.
you really got me on the Saracens joke, good job, cause I think it's Mayan, too
GOD DAMN, YOU MAKE GOOD VIDEOS BRO!
Hey Spirit! I've been wondering lately. Does the size of a unit's model have any impact on melee fighting abilities? I thought this up because Karambit warriors seem to have the smallest model size in the game, but are extremely effective at swarming other units in melee fights. They seem to reorient themselves to different targets much more effectively too. If it is the case that model size does make a difference to fighting abilities, this could be a consideration for balance in the future too. Thanks!
Spanish archer rush is pretty OP! Sad that he did not even mention it :(
Saracens are one of the few factions that has all units and techs for bowmen so it’s pretty good. And with their horse archers and crossbows dealing more damage to buildings they are strong.
Hi Spirit maybe you could consider Malians as honorable mention because of cheaper gold units. Great video as always !