This lecture is part of an emerging tradition that will educate people about Islamic geometry (notably books by Keith Critchlow and Eric Bourg) but delivered with an audio visual enthusiasm that books cannot fully convey.
This was amazing, thank you!!! I’m left at the end with a funny idea... Diverging moments of inspiration by the artists, or by computer scientists playing with this stuff, whose creative trajectories converge in a higher pattern... A star pattern of diverging polygon trajectories that trace back to each other in a higher (and more general) form.... A beautiful metaphor.
I find it interesting how he glosses over the Ghiri (sic) tilings and doesn't mention anything about quasicrystals. He openly questions Lu's work and mentions Penrose tilings but doesn't elaborate on their irregularity. Much has changed in the 7 years since he gave this lecture. I wonder if his views now go along with the mainstream beliefs.
If you generalize the technique where you generate a tesselation pattern, then do the Riemannian technique you described for the star bunnies over surfaces that render the same tesselation pattern at a larger scale, won’t that created the nested symmetry you would need to construct an infinitely deep, repeating pattern? I mean you could build a bunny out of little bunnies that are built of bunnies.... Triangles made out of triangles... But how could it be generalized for any polygon construct?
Hello, l just found out that in 1966 my School padagoene Dr Rolditch contacted Mr MC Easher, regarding None repeating tessalations and some math to it that l told her about under Hypnos ,he did a print to confirm my math and come to Canada to present the print to Dr Rolditch and he had it registed, l,m just now tring to find out more Details.
This is maaad!!!! Just little additional information in 40:07 this pattern there's symbolism on it's not normal pattern, it refers to Solomon knot! Interesting coincidence! And in Islam Solomon is one of the prophets too
I am a young promoter in the field of engraving on wood and aricobon.si possible to send me the islamic patters I work on cnc router thank you in advance
I have it running on OS X Sierra. All you have to do is install the latest version of Java... install a piece of java software called JRE, then you have to reboot and go to your OS X security preference panel and make sure it allows it to run. Mine stopped it from running by default so I had to tell it, it's ok to run this.
Hi Waleed, are you looking to find out more about the Studies in Islam program? If so visit uwaterloo.ca/studies-in-islam/people-profiles and click on the contact button.
I think that he is more interested in the mathematics involved . He actually states as much. Myself I am working on a theory of where the meditation upon these pieces or patterns leads to. I came to this line of thought originally from the structure of Muqarnas Domes. I am thinking that through the meditation of these pieces one can conceive, through the mind, aspects of extra dimensionality. Modern physics is quite comfortable in speaking of 7 or 25 or 36 dimensions. But they come to that through mathematics. I am thinking that geometric patterns may give us the ability to visualize these extra dimensions. I would not be surprised if that had been accomplished a thousand years ago through "Islamic/geometric art" and subsequently suppressed. The concept of a multidimensional universe would probably not have been well received by the religions of that time.
I don' t know why some call it islamic art when its originally a moorish art! a moorish invention art!.. is not even an arabic art. not at all!.. its like saying International automobile engineering desing(s)!!.. we have the big tree in the u.s. and thousands of other designs coming out throughout the years from this big tree motor creator! and you can find all of them in one city, and is Detroit city, and that is the heart of the motor engineering and creator!.. when you talk about iranian or persian art.. thats like barking at the wrong tree!!..its like going to russia to find out how they creat their own cars!.. i know this a bad exemple but!.. iran or persia have the arab school influence..because of the arab invasions throughout the history.. so the otman Empire or turkey today have the Moorish influence.. so Andalusia in Spain have the pure original Moorish style and design..and you just cannot compare al hambra art with isfahan or damascus or istambul art and try in studying it and calling it this broad name of islamic art..is like comparing apples and oranges and bananas and cucumbers etcetera!.. the best universities in the world are Harvard. and Princeton for exemple and they're all in one country and that's america.. you wanna study the beginning or secrets of the automobile engineering designs you go to the big tree in detroit Ford! GM! and Chrysler! you wanna study computer and science you go to the siliconevalley ..movies music and entertainment!..of course you go to Broadway new york and Hollywood!. making it short!.. you wanna study tile art designs which is impossible! go where the Moorish, that build al hambra and the south of spain came from a little city in north africa call marrakech! ..or go to where the Moorish ends up after the contesta of spain and also a little city in north africa call Fes!..and you can find these two cities in morocco! and t hats the birth place of the Moorish designs " not islamic designs!! and not even arabic designs!..why??! because then we gonna start inventing and confusing the birth and original idea and the origine of this and simply Moorish art and designs.
I agree with you that this art is rooted in Moorish design. It is called Islamic art because the original Moorish designs were picked up by Islam and built upon for many hundreds of years. I would be very interested in seeing the pre Islamic Moorish art. I am curious as to how advanced mathematically it is. There is now strong evidence of quasicrystals being incorporated into "Islamic Art". It would be interesting to know if that came from it's Moorish roots. Being a Canadian my views are highly tainted by a western perspective. There seems to be a period around 1,000 to 1,100 AD where there were great changes in the Islamic and by extension North African world. This corresponds with the beginning of the Christian, (Catholic), Crusades. I am wondering about what exactly was going on way back then. Knowing of the Catholic propensity for destroying anything that did not agree with their world view I question what was hidden to protect it from destruction. As much of modern science has its roots in the Arabic world I wonder about what else was known and subsequently suppressed.
Why is Algebra called Algebra when it was invented by an Islamic scholar hence the word Al-Gabra. It's people who build on it, that's how people remember it from not the origin.
So he's trying to take the real essence of Islamic geometry designs out (which is based on spirituality) and automate it and make it soulless then wonders why its not the same...LOL
This lecture is part of an emerging tradition that will educate people about Islamic geometry (notably books by Keith Critchlow and Eric Bourg)
but delivered with an audio visual enthusiasm that books cannot fully convey.
Brillant. This man is very clever. Thank you for share the conference.
This was amazing, thank you!!!
I’m left at the end with a funny idea... Diverging moments of inspiration by the artists, or by computer scientists playing with this stuff, whose creative trajectories converge in a higher pattern... A star pattern of diverging polygon trajectories that trace back to each other in a higher (and more general) form.... A beautiful metaphor.
This lecture has been very insightful and significantly informative! Thank you for taking the time to study and teaching this!
“The computer is really good at stupid, mindless repetition." LOL
Amazing lecture. Learned a lot. I wish I had paid attention to the wonders of mathematics. Bravo! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Liked it a lot. Should name every orator in this conference
the Moroccan architecture is amazing
Absolutely brilliant talk.
This man is a true artist.
It would be interesting to see the stereographic projection of the 3d printed spheres
This is so inspiring and enlightening.
What's the name of the App that's used to manipulate the shapes and stars?
Thanks so much for sharing.
S A Bokhari His Java applet is called Taprats
Arabeske 2.0.1 from www.wozzeck.net/arabeske/ara_devel.html is nice, too.
Site is down as of 2018
That was a very good lecture!
thanks for this. very inspiring. psychedellic. trippy. universal. fascinating. take me to Fez on a magic carpet.
54:43 ohhh yeah man
Welcom to morrocco 🇲🇦♥️🌺⚘🌹🌹⚘🌺♥️🇲🇦
Moroccan craftsmen are over 9000
very interesting. always been interested in Moorish art and Islamic art. I wish i could do knew how to use engineering software like auto cad
I find it interesting how he glosses over the Ghiri (sic) tilings and doesn't mention anything about quasicrystals. He openly questions Lu's work and mentions Penrose tilings but doesn't elaborate on their irregularity. Much has changed in the 7 years since he gave this lecture. I wonder if his views now go along with the mainstream beliefs.
Can someone help me with the software he used?
shokran tarek galal
Has it been made into an ipad app?
If you generalize the technique where you generate a tesselation pattern, then do the Riemannian technique you described for the star bunnies over surfaces that render the same tesselation pattern at a larger scale, won’t that created the nested symmetry you would need to construct an infinitely deep, repeating pattern? I mean you could build a bunny out of little bunnies that are built of bunnies.... Triangles made out of triangles... But how could it be generalized for any polygon construct?
Great presentation. Thanks for sharing. Did Prof. Kaplan go to Fes?
what software is that yoo
I love his shirt.
Hello, l just found out that in 1966 my School padagoene Dr Rolditch contacted Mr MC Easher, regarding None repeating tessalations and some math to it that l told her about under Hypnos ,he did a print to confirm my math and come to Canada to present the print to Dr Rolditch and he had it registed, l,m just now tring to find out more Details.
Is there a theorem that says if you have two colours they can be woven?
What is that software!?
Very gooood
Amazing !....
This man should watch the movie called the man who knew infinity
This is maaad!!!! Just little additional information in 40:07 this pattern there's symbolism on it's not normal pattern, it refers to Solomon knot! Interesting coincidence! And in Islam Solomon is one of the prophets too
what software is he using?
grasshopper and parakeet?
Archimedes used a 96-sided polygon to estimate the value of pi.
so friggin cool
I WANT SOFTWARE IM DYING DRAWING THESE EVEN THO I KNOW EUCLIDIAN SPEEDY SHIT
merci beaucoup
19:00 the pentagon he draws is within error greater than the geometrical error of the fake pentagon itself.
+Monte Town I don't know why he's using a pentagon in this conference because Islamic art hardly ever uses them.
I am a young promoter in the field of engraving on wood and aricobon.si possible to send me the islamic patters I work on cnc router thank you in advance
Just google.
You can look at pictures of mosques particularly the ones Iran and Isfahan.
merci
25:50 eye opening moment
Is there a newer version of taprats that will work in OSX El Capitan-10.11.4?
I have it running on OS X Sierra. All you have to do is install the latest version of Java... install a piece of java software called JRE, then you have to reboot and go to your OS X security preference panel and make sure it allows it to run. Mine stopped it from running by default so I had to tell it, it's ok to run this.
Great! Thanks. Just updated to Sierra.
can i get in touch with someone here ?
Hi Waleed, are you looking to find out more about the Studies in Islam program? If so visit uwaterloo.ca/studies-in-islam/people-profiles and click on the contact button.
Ideas 😁💡
Have a good night
I THINK THE SAME...
His approach is from the wrong side of the issue. It shows a very superficial approach instead of a comprehensive one.
LOLZ
True
I think that he is more interested in the mathematics involved . He actually states as much. Myself I am working on a theory of where the meditation upon these pieces or patterns leads to. I came to this line of thought originally from the structure of Muqarnas Domes. I am thinking that through the meditation of these pieces one can conceive, through the mind, aspects of extra dimensionality.
Modern physics is quite comfortable in speaking of 7 or 25 or 36 dimensions. But they come to that through mathematics. I am thinking that geometric patterns may give us the ability to visualize these extra dimensions.
I would not be surprised if that had been accomplished a thousand years ago through "Islamic/geometric art" and subsequently suppressed. The concept of a multidimensional universe would probably not have been well received by the religions of that time.
Sir, it is not the classical Islamic way to do it ! There are documents in Turkish Persian and Arabic that discuss how to build them.
seed of life
Barely scratched the surface.
+meridjal Yes, and it took him 1.5 hrs to achieve that!
+Khamomil actually it took him a few years of graduate studies.
45:35
🇲🇦♥️🌺⚘morrocco 🌹⚘🌺♥️🇲🇦
I kept waiting for the word FRACTAL
somehow british irritates me
Abd ullah - that chap was American, similar language but different geometric construction.
I don' t know why some call it islamic art when its originally a moorish art! a moorish invention art!.. is not even an arabic art. not at all!..
its like saying International automobile engineering desing(s)!!.. we have the big tree in the u.s. and thousands of other designs coming out throughout the years from this big tree motor creator! and you can find all of them in one city, and is Detroit city, and that is the heart of the motor engineering and creator!..
when you talk about iranian or persian art.. thats like barking at the wrong tree!!..its like going to russia to find out how they creat their own cars!.. i know this a bad exemple but!..
iran or persia have the arab school influence..because of the arab invasions throughout the history..
so the otman Empire or turkey today have the Moorish influence..
so Andalusia in Spain have the pure original Moorish style and design..and you just cannot compare al hambra art with isfahan or damascus or istambul art and try in studying it and calling it this broad name of islamic art..is like comparing apples and oranges and bananas and cucumbers etcetera!..
the best universities in the world are Harvard. and Princeton for exemple and they're all in one country and that's america..
you wanna study the beginning or secrets of the automobile engineering designs you go to the big tree in detroit Ford! GM! and Chrysler!
you wanna study computer and science you go to the siliconevalley ..movies music and entertainment!..of course you go to Broadway new york and Hollywood!.
making it short!.. you wanna study tile art designs which is impossible! go where the Moorish, that build al hambra and the south of spain came from a little city in north africa call marrakech! ..or go to where the Moorish ends up after the contesta of spain and also a little city in north africa call Fes!..and you can find these two cities in morocco! and t hats the birth place of the Moorish designs " not islamic designs!! and not even arabic designs!..why??! because then we gonna start inventing and confusing the birth and original idea and the origine of this and simply Moorish art and designs.
Sam Sbogh its because the art form was included by islamic principles. and most Muslims are non arab, even during that time. just enjoy it dude.
It's the underlying philosophy of islamic cosmology
I agree with you that this art is rooted in Moorish design. It is called Islamic art because the original Moorish designs were picked up by Islam and built upon for many hundreds of years. I would be very interested in seeing the pre Islamic Moorish art. I am curious as to how advanced mathematically it is. There is now strong evidence of quasicrystals being incorporated into "Islamic Art". It would be interesting to know if that came from it's Moorish roots.
Being a Canadian my views are highly tainted by a western perspective. There seems to be a period around 1,000 to 1,100 AD where there were great changes in the Islamic and by extension North African world. This corresponds with the beginning of the Christian, (Catholic), Crusades. I am wondering about what exactly was going on way back then. Knowing of the Catholic propensity for destroying anything that did not agree with their world view I question what was hidden to protect it from destruction. As much of modern science has its roots in the Arabic world I wonder about what else was known and subsequently suppressed.
Why is Algebra called Algebra when it was invented by an Islamic scholar hence the word Al-Gabra. It's people who build on it, that's how people remember it from not the origin.
So he's trying to take the real essence of Islamic geometry designs out (which is based on spirituality) and automate it and make it soulless then wonders why its not the same...LOL
Its Not islamic its old forms if it was so no body bevor See it