I think it's Selina. You guys know how each of Batman's villains represents or reflects some element of himself? Two-Face is his dual identity, Scarecrow is the way he wields fear as a weapon, etc. Catwoman is analogous not to an element of Batman, but she instead is almost like Gotham City in human form: dark, dangerous, captivating, always takes and never gives. Batman is attracted to Catwoman for the same reasons he's attracted to Gotham City. While Bruce's other love interests are alienated by his relationship with Gotham, it is this eternal relationship with Gotham that unites him with Selina. I think Talia works better as a failed romance, since I do like what she brings to the Bat stories (and the idea of Damian is interesting), and I like romances like Vikki Vale, Silver St. Cloud or Julie Madison to be more like "in another life" type thing - If Bruce never became Batman. I like him with Wonder Woman having this great friends with romantic chemistry dynamic, and although tempted decide not to go there. (I always say their dynamic as Joey and Phoebe's if that makes sense.) There this great comic if I reamember right where Diana sees realities where they became a couple and we see the possible outcames of each, and in the end she tells Bruce it's better for them to be great friends even if they could have an epic romance and he agrees. I do think it would be cool to see them as endgame in an alternative universe but not the main one.
Cat woman treats Batman horrible through. She tried to get with nightwing, left him at the altar, and keeps on reverting to crime. The cat woman of earth 2 is way better and a lot less toxic
Watch the injustice episodes. Where dick Grayson dies. Cat woman is there comforting Batman. “Let yourself fall about. I promise I will keep you together”- cat woman.
I disagree on Talia. DC had done horribly with how they never addressed on how Talia was brainwashed into becoming a villain by her sister, Nyssa, and her father Ra's.
Whenever this topic happens, always remember it's not what you like or what you prefer. It's what actually is. Batman and Catwoman are simply the most iconic, just like Superman and Lois Lane, and that alone should End the question.
When I was younger I was always a fan of him with Diana but I also grew up watching JLU but now I want him and Selina to just figure their shit out cause they care so much for each other but walk different paths
Talia got ruined too much by Grant Morrison and Catwoman got ruined too much by Tom King. I think we have reached a point where most Batman's fans are OK with him being alone for a while or try new romantic interests
Morrison wasn't the one who ruined Talia. He helped solidify it. Greg Rucka is the one who ruined her. He wrote Death and the Maidens. He had Nyssa tortured and brainwashed Talia into giving up her love and becoming a full-on villain. They never addressed this ever since.
@niccoloproia3678 I remember with great affection Denni O'neal's Batman 256 because it presented us with the dilemma of Bruce and his infatuation with Talia and Selina, especially at the end of the story where he sees a photo of the two and says that his curse is to care (that is, to love). to those women because they are his enemies, just like Batman 356 or was a detective in the two helps Bruce this in pre-crisis, but sadly both are screwed Len Wein as editor screwed up some aspects of Catwoman like Vicki's attack is worth something out of her personality and made her look like a crazy jealous and a bit nocturnal and I blame it more on Jerry Coywen, who luckily changed editors and Denni O'neal came in and let Doug Moench play a good Catwoman and a good relationship until the joker erases her memory and the reboot of batman with frank miller, and well with talia after the post crisis they made her very supportive of her father, the tower of babel is an example of that, and death Talia started with Chuck Dixon when she slept with Bané, the guy who hurt Bruce physically and mentally, Greg Rucka and Morrison with other later ones, well they didn't do much for her, and add that before Morrison they were making Talia jealous when she watched Bruce with a girl whose name I don't remember, I also keep an eye on bruce and selina in Ed Brubarke's career and I also keep an eye on ww and bruce, (by the way I hate that ship, I like ww with steve or dark chocolate)😀 and well with Selina, Tom, Tynon and Tini's lesbian they fucked it up really badly and Jimlee doesn't help with his interference in DC, although I like the single Bruce better it makes more sense to me that they do it like in Batman 2004 it was very funny than him will not delay and only casual sex
@@niccoloproia3678 I remember with great affection Denni O'neal's Batman 256 because it presented us with the dilemma of Bruce and his infatuation with Talia and Selina, especially at the end of the story where he sees a photo of the two and says that his curse is to care (that is, to love). to those women because they are his enemies, just like Batman 356 or was a detective in the two helps Bruce this in pre-crisis, but sadly both are screwed Len Wein as editor screwed up some aspects of Catwoman like Vicki's attack is worth something out of her personality and made her look like a crazy jealous and a bit nocturnal and I blame it more on Jerry Coywen, who luckily changed editors and Denni O'neal came in and let Doug Moench play a good Catwoman and a good relationship until the joker erases her memory and the reboot of batman with frank miller, and well with talia after the post crisis they made her very supportive of her father, the tower of babel is an example of that, and death Talia started with Chuck Dixon when she slept with Bané, the guy who hurt Bruce physically and mentally, Greg Rucka and Morrison with other later ones, well they didn't do much for her, and add that before Morrison they were making Talia jealous when she watched Bruce with a girl whose name I don't remember, I also keep an eye on bruce and selina in Ed Brubarke's career and I also keep an eye on ww and bruce, (by the way I hate that ship, I like ww with steve or dark chocolate)😀 and well with Selina, Tom, Tynon and Tini's lesbian they fucked it up really badly and Jimlee doesn't help with his interference in DC, although I like the single Bruce better it makes more sense to me that they do it like in Batman 2004 it was very funny than him will not delay and only casual romance
12:52 to add to what you guys said I feel like they also work outside of Batman and Catwoman as just themselves like in that one moment from Injustice where she comforts him after Grayson dies and in that moment they aren’t Batman and Catwoman but Selina and Bruce
Probably say Wonder Woman or alone like in Batman Beyond. Catwoman never works out. I feel like Catwoman would get bored. Being with Batman she'll have to change her entire character of Traveling and Stealing to staying in Gotham and fighting criminals. Catwoman would be with a Billionaire and feel like it's not enough and steal😂 Talia doesn't work because she drugged and r*ped Bruce. He'll never accept that it's out character for him.
@@djshadow3260Even if you retcon the rape, she still hid his son for him and raised him in an abusive environment for years. I don't see how any father could forgive that.
@@Gemini053 How do you retcon that without getting rid of Damian as a character completely? (Which I know some people would love, but DC doesn't seem to want to do.) That's his whole backstory.
Despite not seeing Batman as the type of character who would settle down, I think the woman he loves is Catwoman. Not only her playfull carefree personality acts as nice contrast to Bruce's stern and serious attitude but they both challenge each other's perspective and ideologies. Batman gives Selina the love and support she never got, showing her that there are people in Gotham (including rich people like him) who aren't corrupt nor selfish, who care for people like her, who never had people who cared for her while she grew in the streets of Gotham. Meanwhile Selina shows Batman that not all criminals are pure evil and are just trying to survive. They both inspire each other to evolve and be better people.
There is no doubt in my mind that Selina is to Bruce what Lois is to Clark. Love of his life, period. Thank you for this video, guys! Earned yourselves a new subscriber this way❤
It’s Selina. No matter how well or bad it’s written. It’s always really Selina. They are the inverse of Lois and Clark. No one else really measures up. Andrea Beaumont is his Lana Lang.
Me personally I believe that Batman's actual True Love falls between Selina and Diana. Bruce literally was suppose to marry Selina but they change writers and said Batman needs to be gritty and can't be happy yet in some incarnations he does marry Selina and it works. Especially in Batman the Brave and the Bold Bruce and Selina are Damien's parents, then on a alternative Earth they have a baby who grows up to be Huntress, even in the terrible Birds of Prey show they confirmed that a variant of Batman and Catwoman were her parents in that universe. Then there's the Amazonian Princess Diana Prince who I believe is also one of Bruce's true love because Dwayne McDuffie and Paul Dini wrote their relationship so well and even in some comics like the blackest night, rose in legends and even in Dark Knight metal they teased that Bruce and Diana fall in love in several multiverses there's even a comic where they have a kid together. There's also a comic where Bruce and Diana are about to die and Bruce tells Diana he wishes he was perfect for her.
I only see Bruce with Selina but only because Diana doesn’t age. I don’t like putting characters who don’t age with characters who do. They all end one way.
Thank you for including Andrea Beaumont. Mask of the Phantasm is an amazing movie. That movie gives me chills every time I watch it. I’m on team Wonder Bat. I read a lot of Wonder Bat fanfics. Good history assessment though.
I don't really like the Wonder Woman-Batman thing. The DCAU played favorites with Batman too much. Like he gets practically very girl in that universe (even Lois Lane???).
Wanna hear a weird fact? Wonder Woman in the dcau is apparently supposed to be 18. And at the point when they form the JL, Bruce is well into his 40s. Eww, Bruce timm, we get it. You have got a weird fetish for making Batman bang underage or girls who are like 20 years younger than him.
I don't like any of them except Zatanna LOL. To me, Bruce deserves to have someone like Lois to Clark, someone he can truly rely on, someone he can trust, someone who can put him on check and don't need to worry about his partner committing a felony. He and Selena are cute as a fling but I can never see them really settle down especially not after Gotham War😂. I want someone kind of like Alfred, can call off his bullshit and assist him in a certain way instead of sabotaging his career. P.S. And that sounds like Barbara LMAO I don't know why we never get that, Bruce is always attracted to 'dangerous women' and then goes on and off forever. Even if he and Selena got married, I can't see it ending well, either Bruce becomes a joke for allowing Selena to do whatever she wants or Selena becomes OOC, boring and not dangerous anymore. How about other types of girls?
Before Damian, it was Talia for me. They really had an interesting connection. Now it's Selina. I do hope they make it official. I think Zatanna works best as a close friend to Bruce, not a love interest. I'd like a video like this for Nightwing
@@Awsomeman123321 no because they have nothing in common they forced that ship in the justice league animated series outside of that in the comics they are not anywhere near or ever should be a couple. They are friends keep it that way I like Diana. I just don’t want her to end up with Bruce. the relationship would never work. He has so many different options outside of Catwoman and Talia that he could end up with the Zatana has known him since they were kids why not her hell why not Silver St. Cloud
@@staticboyj.r. it's comics almost all characters have tones of different options when it comes to dating. It just comes down to the people creating the story And no nothing about the justice league animated series felt force. Bruce and Diana have plenty in common even outside of their superhero lives. And why would the relationship not work?
@@jflexy1344 like what exactly ?.? because just like the aforementioned animated show most often than not Batman and wonder woman have nothing in comics they work better as friends not a couple they don’t bounce off of each other like the mass majority of all the hero’s do I don’t want you to think I don’t like wonder woman or Batman I just don’t like them together relationship maybe it wasn’t forced forgive me forthat but that relationship literally only works in the animated series. Batman has not dated wonder woman unless it’s been in else world story in comics if you honestly read Batman comics more often than not he’s budding heads with somebody in the justice league i.e. Superman flash, Green Lantern, wonder woman, herself and many others it just makes sense context wise for them to be in a relationship
In the bat family adventure comics they address how Bruce wants to change the world but he himself is inflexible, while Selena has learned to change and adapt to the world to survive, Bruce gives her stability she never had before and she fills his life with surprise and helps him be capable of change, especially change his views of himself which don't tend to be that positive
Okay not joking or anything I don't think he has one. Because he's in a situation like Spider-Man with MJ where the writers and editors have messed with his love interests so much that he doesn't really have anyone.
3:41 Honorable mention that’s the best one of them all that’s not an honorable mention that’s an absolute good one. I don’t know why you would think that people would click off the video. I hundred percent agree and I think this is the best one for Batman! WonderBat is the best ship for Batman!
Honestly Wonder woman for me think about how in the hell a normal man with no super powers just an excellent intelligence and gadgets was able to woo a amazonian princess who could go toe to toe with superman. Not mention Diana never tried to rape him or leave him at the altar.
6:15 That is the writer’s fault because it was a retcon by a writer who has said that he misremembered their story. Then seeing that error, they retconned that retcon. The actual origin for Damien was a consensual thing. They were in love but then Talia lied about miscarrying Damien so that Bruce wouldn’t have to choose between them and being Batman. I will never forgive DC writers for ruining her character. She had just a compelling story. While she may follow her father’s orders, she doesn’t necessarily share his ideas and will go against him at times for Bruce. She gives Damien to Bruce because she regrets raising Damien to be that way and wants him to be like Bruce and to live a good life. She’s stuck between wanting to be a good heir and being her own person.
It's worse. They had an entire series called Batman: Death and the Maidens. Which was made a couple of years before Morrison got their hands on writing Batman. In that story, Talia was captured by her sister, Nyssa. She tortured, killed and revived her with the Lazarus Pit repeatedly over and over again. Until her mind became broken. She then proceeded to brainwash Talia into becoming the new leader of the League of Assassins and renounce her love for Batman. What's worse, Ra's planned the entire thing. He wanted his daughters to see that his way was the right one, and wanted them to become more ruthless and his successor. What he didn't count on, Nyssa betraying and killed him as revenge for abandoning her in a concentration camp. DC never addressed this since then, and Morrison's writing for Talia made it much worse since.
Unpopular opinion (maybe): he should stay single. Sure, he can have past relationships like Talia, but i dont see him sticking with anyone. He is the kinda character that i interpret as 'married to his work', as in too occupied for a relationship. That and im not particularly attached to any of his potential relationships. Wonder woman has far better options for her love interest. Catwoman and him dont agree on her thief status, and i dont want her to give up being catwoman for him. Talia, I can only see as a past love also due to lifestyle differences as you stated. I have never heard of Andrea before but she seems the best choice, even if it ultimately wont work out. I like all these characters and I think they are better when not permanent love interests, just past relationships and what ifs. Its fine if people disagree because my opinion settles on the fact that I see his character as one that will never achieve a normal happy life. Great video 👍
This is an interesting subject, because when it comes to "Love Interests" in Comic books, everyone has a reason Example A won't work because of something that happened in a single word balloon of a single issue twenty years or something else that happened in one mini-series that proves Example B is the ONLY choice. Which means the conversation really isn't about which is Better or Worse, it becomes which has been written about the LEAST, because the most well known ones, some with decades of history have had so many writers, so many different versions of them presented, that every single notable love interest has been ruined so many times that even the hardcore fanbase has soured on them. The case examples are Talia and Selena. Many fans will never forgive or forget what the writers once had Talia do to Bruce, even if it's apparently been retconned. To me, it was always a bad story decision and completely unnecessary. Bruce and Talia were hot enough for each other that them having a child was always plausible and never needed any "complications." There was enough drama there without taking the story in gross directions it never should have gone. That said, Talia has never been my choice, never cared for her as a character or her story with Batman. Honestly as someone who grew up with Tim Burton's "Batman," I've always wanted someone to revisit Viki Vale. I know she will never be the great love of the Batman story, but it just always seemed a waste that creators always INVENT new tragic love interests for Batman (Like Andrea Beaumont or Rachel Dawes), instead of use Viki to fill that role. Ironically, her being constantly ignored has made her one of the few love interests the writers haven't screwed up... YET. But my choice has always been Selena. For most fans though, Tom King and DC Editorial have completely ruined that relationship beyond any recovery, and I can't blame them. There was so much potential for a married Bruce and Selena, so many interesting directions they could have gone, so many new stories and difficulties that would have been fresh material, instead of the same tired retreaded tropes DC has tossed out for years and THAT was why DC could not go through with it. Because going that direction would have CHANGED Batman as a character, advanced him and his entire Gotham Universe and that is the one thing DC can never allow to happen. They can never risk having Batman change, grow or evolve. He must remain the same and DC Editorial would even insult their entire consumer base rather than risk that.
After the events of Gotham War, I can't stand by Catwoman. Talia Al Ghul has raped him, tried to kill him, tried to kill his entire friends and allies, and did kill their son. Zatanna or Wonder Woman would be his actual true love. In the comics, Zatanna and Batman have a great relationship and personal history, filled with teenage crushes, betrayal, and growth. It is honestly a fantastic side romance that is actually interesting and has good chemistry. Wonder Woman and Bruce have a similar dynamic where both have great respect for one another, and have suffered their losses and triumphs together, but can never be together due to their clashing worlds and egos. (Also in the Blackest Night Wonder Woman tie-in, its hinted that Bruce is Wonder Woman's true love)
The r*pe was retconned, and she didn't kill her son. Heretic was the one who killed him, she never wanted that and was pissed about it. I blame DC for not addressing how before Morrison got his hands on writing for Batman, that Talia was brainwashed into becoming a full on villain and forced to renounce her love for Batman.
I don't think that Bruce would be able to fully Zatanna enough to trust her due to the mind wipes. They might remain friends, but I don't think that it would more than that. Although it might odd, one that might work is Kate Spencer (Manhunter). She's skilled at fighting so she can protect herself, and as far as I know she has no romantic entanglements. She has the potential to be a good match for Bruce.
@@Solitaire001 I doubt she would be interested in Batman considering how she's retired and more focused on keeping her son from danger. Especially the huge risk of getting involved with anything to do with Batman and Gotham City.
@@Solitaire001 That’s a fair enough assessment, I just think that with their past regarding the mindwipes and all the events afterward, a different kind of trust has grown between them. A trust to never again violate either one of them, especially since Zatanna has actively regretted it and has done her best to mend her relationships. It just bothers me that Bruce keeps going after Selina despite years of her betraying his trust in various ways, yet the fact that Zatanna has grown into a more mature woman, some authors still write Bruce distrusting her greatly. Bruce distrusts Magic but doesn’t distrust Zatanna imo, same way that he’s wary of Nabu, but respects Kent Nelson
Opinions on nightwings love? I feel like most ppl would say Babs but I’m a big fan of OG TeenTitans so I have a soft spot for him and Starfire,. I’m also a fan of RedHood and The Outlaws tho. ✌️ Thoughts?
I’m still not over the fact that Talia drugged and coerced him into conceiving Damian, so Selina wins in my book between the two. But the only correct answer is the Joker.
Either Wonder Woman, Catwoman, or JUSTICE!!!! (I know what you are thinking, Damian Wayne is Bruce Wayne's and Talia al Ghul's child. However, Bruce doesn't show the same amount of love and compassion for her, as to those I mentioned above).
None of the people in the thumbnail. An if I'm being honest as long time comic book reader, Batman's love life has always been one of the least interesting things about him as a character.
Actually him having no love interest kinda made him a boring character lol, It should be andrea or others like ww or zatana but no villians like catwoman or talia there toxic af but Dc should make him a love interest who is a normal citizen,that will make him interesting
Fun Fact: Silver St Cloud was supposed to be the main love interest in Batman 89 before they switched it to Vicky Vale and both characters share a reason for leaving Bruce.
Silver is such an underrated character. I wish an adaptation would include her. She is an intelligent woman and loves Bruce. I genuinely could see her working with him long term.
Silver was the best, she was the only one who accepted Bruce's life as Batman and who wasn't a criminal, it was Batman's purest relationship because she managed to make him smile and accepted his life as Batman, Bruce and Selina's relationship There are several problems but Batman ignores these problems, Selina doesn't know the difference between right and wrong, she has questionable morals and even though she is an anti-hero she is still a criminal she does wrong things to help people, Batman himself has already told Alfred "Selina is a criminal but no one is perfect, this shows that the Batcat relationship has several problems but Bruce ignores these problems because he loves her
When you dropped that 7:00 statement I almost yeeted out off the video before I realized the joke 💀Talk about a poisoned well. In my heart I knew that it was a joke, the fact that this one even made it into a movie just got me wired. Unless it's the LEGO version, NOPE. Mostly agree on Talia though, it's way to messy. I do enjoy him the most with Catwoman, as I feel she is a part of him and they are somewhat two sides of the same coin. I feel like the RobPatman adaptation has also been very favourable for this dynamic, especially with touching upon Bruces privileges and adding the dimension of not necessarily having a choice in crime, trying to make him question his moral code somewhat. Their comic versions also just have insanely good chemistry. I do think they are the most fun though when they don't settle down (logistical purposes aside), as they both just don't seem like the type. She's however just long been a part of the Batfamily and I feel like Batman just needs these free spirits to change something in him and balance him out, as well as give him something to care about without being too dependant on him!
Silver was the best, she was the only one who accepted Bruce's life as Batman and who wasn't a criminal, it was Batman's purest relationship because she managed to make him smile and accepted his life as Batman, Bruce and Selina's relationship There are several problems but Batman ignores these problems, Selina doesn't know the difference between right and wrong, she has questionable morals and even though she is an anti-hero she is still a criminal she does wrong things to help people, Batman himself has already told Alfred "Selina is a criminal but no one is perfect, this shows that the Batcat relationship has several problems but Bruce ignores these problems because he loves her😊
Just found this channel - consider me a full fledged lad now (i.e. I've subbed). Personally I consider Selina Batman's one true love. All the others helped him realize upon finding Selina how she is the one.
Before he became Batman, Andrea Beaumont was the first woman he ever loved & hoped for to settle down & lead a normal life until she left him. Some women were romantic interests or flings but Selina and Talia are his main love interests but he wouldn't or couldn't made a committed to any of them completely because he's dedicated his life fighting crimes as Batman.
I haven't finished watching the video nor have I read the comments. I've paused at 1:44 All I'm gonna say is they better be Selina, Zatanna and Diana... or, hell, at the very least NOT Barbara Gordon, ffs Edit: 3:54 Ok, so immediately I'm down 2/3 favorite picks XD My hopes for Selina are still high, tho
I just don’t think he’ll turn anything down. It’s amazing how the Batman character has evolved since the justice league Hall of Fame or whatever in the 70s. He has such an evil dark side now. Most people need a scorecard to keep up with the storyline.
I say Wonder Woman, she's my favorite. Talia al Ghul on second, mostly going off the early stuff. Catwoman isn't on the list for me. Though i think people should be allowed to have different opinions. Like i am pretty sure i am the only one whoms favorite Robin is Damian Wayne (Prefer Dick as Nightwing and Jason as hood).
I got a list Here’s the order of my list that it’s in it goes 1. Batman and cat woman 2. Batman and Wonder Woman (maybe, it’s gotta be done right I think something like this could go really well or really poorly) 3. Batman and anyone else but Barbara Lol
He’s her consent-violating uncle and he hid her away in the batcave without food except pomegranate seeds while her mother freaked the hell out causing winter?
Hell no 😭 Wonderbat is easily one of Diana's worst ships, they have genuinely 0 chemistry in everything outside of the DCAU. Also that comparison doesn't make sense lmao
Julie Madison not seen as a proper love interest is so annoying. She gave up her happiness for him to be batman in the New 52 while she was caring for him when he lost his memories and was lost. In Gotham By Gaslight Masters Of f The Future, she knew batman was Bruce by just looking into his eyes and told him she would support him till the end. Refused to leave his side in Castle Of The Batman. Encouraged him to him to not use the gun as batman in Batman The First Knight. But no put the graperist as the best love interest
@@abiodunsulaiman2297in the new 52 it was, but Selina and Talia have the same problem, they both don't know the difference between right and wrong and have questionable morals that's why he and Catwoman have always separated, Selina believes that the best way to save Gotham is committing crimes to help people, Batman says that a crime is a crime that's why they always separated, and Selina has done some things with Bruce, the best one was Silver St Cloud
@@abiodunsulaiman2297 No she worse from nearly killing Bruce to helping villains like the Joker to just straight up murder yeah that right she murder in front of Bruce and he didn't even take her to prison like i said she worse
Silver was the best, she was the only one who accepted Bruce's life as Batman and who wasn't a criminal, it was Batman's purest relationship because she managed to make him smile and accepted his life as Batman, Bruce and Selina's relationship There are several problems but Batman ignores these problems, Selina doesn't know the difference between right and wrong, she has questionable morals and even though she is an anti-hero she is still a criminal she does wrong things to help people, Batman himself has already told Alfred "Selina is a criminal but no one is perfect, this shows that the Batcat relationship has several problems but Bruce ignores these problems because he loves her
Fr and ever time he become Batman he literally go on a killing spree and burns Gotham to the ground no i'm not joking this was even said by Tim drake Batman in the New 52 that why most fans are glad that Dc writer choose Cassandra Cain to be the next main defender of Gotham because of her heavy belief in Bruce mission and his crusade
@@RodrigoSidartaalbertinipos-j9n In other words Selina and Bruce relationship is toxic and bro that even close to bad stuff selina has done go to Quora and see what i and many other fans who don't like her and bruce relationship mean
@@thunderlion6909 yes it is,and but damian is getting better now, in the new 52 and in rebirth he was very aggressive, damian isn't even aggressive now, he's better off he even gave an inspiring speech
Who is Batman’s TRUE love? Let us know your pick! 🤔🦇
Selina
Hear me out but Harley quinn from cruse of white knight uni
Catwoman for sure. Don't ask me why, it just works. The chemistry between them is honestly one of the best in all of fiction imo.
Selena
Depression.
But seriously he should ditch the toxic woman and get with Zatanna
Batman’s only true love is Justice.
No, no, no, it's JUSTICE. As growly as possible.
And Robin
@@JerdyKhagan "Me and Robin's relationship is completely professional and non-romantic"
Batman - My mission is to stop all crime in Gotham.
Catwoman - (Steals diamonds/money)
Batman - That's hot, wanna get married?
And that is why they should never get together.
What an L opinion @@calebmetcalfe6998
@@calebmetcalfe6998Peridot! 😌💅
Well as Bruce's wife Selena would no longer need to steal anything. That's one way of solving most of the petty larceny in Gotham.
@@aznsbd She already doesn't need to steal to survive anymore she does it for the fun and attention.
I think it's Selina. You guys know how each of Batman's villains represents or reflects some element of himself? Two-Face is his dual identity, Scarecrow is the way he wields fear as a weapon, etc. Catwoman is analogous not to an element of Batman, but she instead is almost like Gotham City in human form: dark, dangerous, captivating, always takes and never gives. Batman is attracted to Catwoman for the same reasons he's attracted to Gotham City. While Bruce's other love interests are alienated by his relationship with Gotham, it is this eternal relationship with Gotham that unites him with Selina.
I think Talia works better as a failed romance, since I do like what she brings to the Bat stories (and the idea of Damian is interesting), and I like romances like Vikki Vale, Silver St. Cloud or Julie Madison to be more like "in another life" type thing - If Bruce never became Batman.
I like him with Wonder Woman having this great friends with romantic chemistry dynamic, and although tempted decide not to go there. (I always say their dynamic as Joey and Phoebe's if that makes sense.) There this great comic if I reamember right where Diana sees realities where they became a couple and we see the possible outcames of each, and in the end she tells Bruce it's better for them to be great friends even if they could have an epic romance and he agrees. I do think it would be cool to see them as endgame in an alternative universe but not the main one.
Cat woman treats Batman horrible through. She tried to get with nightwing, left him at the altar, and keeps on reverting to crime. The cat woman of earth 2 is way better and a lot less toxic
Watch the injustice episodes.
Where dick Grayson dies.
Cat woman is there comforting Batman. “Let yourself fall about. I promise I will keep you together”- cat woman.
@@epgamer1145 And yet, in her story in Injustice 2, she divorced him after getting bored of marriage.
I disagree on Talia. DC had done horribly with how they never addressed on how Talia was brainwashed into becoming a villain by her sister, Nyssa, and her father Ra's.
@@epgamer1145 yo know she betrayed hum later right?she joins superman
DC: "Batman got Barbara Gordon pregnant"
Fans: "THIS IS NOT FUCKING CANON!"
It’s DEFINITELY NOT CANON we just like to bring it up every once in a while to make everyone die of cringe
Bruce Timm has been on my shitlist for constantly forcing that curse on us
Why just don’t get her pregnant.
Right, i pay all my mensual money to that to be forgettable forever
That was a worse decision than the bat nipples
Whenever this topic happens, always remember it's not what you like or what you prefer. It's what actually is.
Batman and Catwoman are simply the most iconic, just like Superman and Lois Lane, and that alone should End the question.
When I was younger I was always a fan of him with Diana but I also grew up watching JLU but now I want him and Selina to just figure their shit out cause they care so much for each other but walk different paths
Talia got ruined too much by Grant Morrison and Catwoman got ruined too much by Tom King.
I think we have reached a point where most Batman's fans are OK with him being alone for a while or try new romantic interests
Morrison wasn't the one who ruined Talia. He helped solidify it.
Greg Rucka is the one who ruined her. He wrote Death and the Maidens.
He had Nyssa tortured and brainwashed Talia into giving up her love and becoming a full-on villain. They never addressed this ever since.
@@tsnoob4669I wouldn't say ruined but they defiantly should've used that for her reasons of being evil down the line.
@niccoloproia3678 I remember with great affection Denni O'neal's Batman 256 because it presented us with the dilemma of Bruce and his infatuation with Talia and Selina, especially at the end of the story where he sees a photo of the two and says that his curse is to care (that is, to love). to those women because they are his enemies, just like Batman 356 or was a detective in the two helps Bruce this in pre-crisis, but sadly both are screwed Len Wein as editor screwed up some aspects of Catwoman like Vicki's attack is worth something out of her personality and made her look like a crazy jealous and a bit nocturnal and I blame it more on Jerry Coywen, who luckily changed editors and Denni O'neal came in and let Doug Moench play a good Catwoman and a good relationship until the joker erases her memory and the reboot of batman with frank miller, and well with talia after the post crisis they made her very supportive of her father, the tower of babel is an example of that, and death Talia started with Chuck Dixon when she slept with Bané, the guy who hurt Bruce physically and mentally, Greg Rucka and Morrison with other later ones, well they didn't do much for her, and add that before Morrison they were making Talia jealous when she watched Bruce with a girl whose name I don't remember, I also keep an eye on bruce and selina in Ed Brubarke's career and I also keep an eye on ww and bruce, (by the way I hate that ship, I like ww with steve or dark chocolate)😀 and well with Selina, Tom, Tynon and Tini's lesbian they fucked it up really badly and Jimlee doesn't help with his interference in DC, although I like the single Bruce better it makes more sense to me that they do it like in Batman 2004 it was very funny than him will not delay and only casual sex
@@niccoloproia3678 I remember with great affection Denni O'neal's Batman 256 because it presented us with the dilemma of Bruce and his infatuation with Talia and Selina, especially at the end of the story where he sees a photo of the two and says that his curse is to care (that is, to love). to those women because they are his enemies, just like Batman 356 or was a detective in the two helps Bruce this in pre-crisis, but sadly both are screwed Len Wein as editor screwed up some aspects of Catwoman like Vicki's attack is worth something out of her personality and made her look like a crazy jealous and a bit nocturnal and I blame it more on Jerry Coywen, who luckily changed editors and Denni O'neal came in and let Doug Moench play a good Catwoman and a good relationship until the joker erases her memory and the reboot of batman with frank miller, and well with talia after the post crisis they made her very supportive of her father, the tower of babel is an example of that, and death Talia started with Chuck Dixon when she slept with Bané, the guy who hurt Bruce physically and mentally, Greg Rucka and Morrison with other later ones, well they didn't do much for her, and add that before Morrison they were making Talia jealous when she watched Bruce with a girl whose name I don't remember, I also keep an eye on bruce and selina in Ed Brubarke's career and I also keep an eye on ww and bruce, (by the way I hate that ship, I like ww with steve or dark chocolate)😀 and well with Selina, Tom, Tynon and Tini's lesbian they fucked it up really badly and Jimlee doesn't help with his interference in DC, although I like the single Bruce better it makes more sense to me that they do it like in Batman 2004 it was very funny than him will not delay and only casual romance
Keep huffin that copium
Selina Kyle AKA Catwoman is my favorite for Batman
The only correct answer is The Joker 🤣
100% ever since I saw lego batman movie
This is facts, not even gonna lie 😂😂
No ... Batman does not love joker
Why are you geh?
@@ashvideoerstop coping out kid
His greatest love is the batmobile. Enough said.
Nah. It's the utility belt. Think about it. What is the one thing Bat's can't Do without?
12:52 to add to what you guys said I feel like they also work outside of Batman and Catwoman as just themselves like in that one moment from Injustice where she comforts him after Grayson dies and in that moment they aren’t Batman and Catwoman but Selina and Bruce
Probably say Wonder Woman or alone like in Batman Beyond.
Catwoman never works out. I feel like Catwoman would get bored. Being with Batman she'll have to change her entire character of Traveling and Stealing to staying in Gotham and fighting criminals. Catwoman would be with a Billionaire and feel like it's not enough and steal😂
Talia doesn't work because she drugged and r*ped Bruce. He'll never accept that it's out character for him.
But Talia was retconned into r*ping him thankfully people are putting her back to her original story
@@djshadow3260Even if you retcon the rape, she still hid his son for him and raised him in an abusive environment for years. I don't see how any father could forgive that.
@@oliviastratton2169 I think even that's slowly being retconned as well.
@@Gemini053 How do you retcon that without getting rid of Damian as a character completely? (Which I know some people would love, but DC doesn't seem to want to do.) That's his whole backstory.
Lmao bad take. Selina all day.
Despite not seeing Batman as the type of character who would settle down, I think the woman he loves is Catwoman. Not only her playfull carefree personality acts as nice contrast to Bruce's stern and serious attitude but they both challenge each other's perspective and ideologies. Batman gives Selina the love and support she never got, showing her that there are people in Gotham (including rich people like him) who aren't corrupt nor selfish, who care for people like her, who never had people who cared for her while she grew in the streets of Gotham. Meanwhile Selina shows Batman that not all criminals are pure evil and are just trying to survive. They both inspire each other to evolve and be better people.
There is no doubt in my mind that Selina is to Bruce what Lois is to Clark. Love of his life, period.
Thank you for this video, guys! Earned yourselves a new subscriber this way❤
It’s Selina. No matter how well or bad it’s written. It’s always really Selina. They are the inverse of Lois and Clark. No one else really measures up. Andrea Beaumont is his Lana Lang.
@@kidzulu8685 she forced herself on Batman
Selina was the worst thing that happened to Batman, making Bruce look like a hypocrite and an accomplice to crime.
why would you insult Lois and Clark like that lmao
@@lordarekusandayou’re thinking of Talia
@@tomodachiotaku8004Selina is an antihero these days
Me personally I believe that Batman's actual True Love falls between Selina and Diana. Bruce literally was suppose to marry Selina but they change writers and said Batman needs to be gritty and can't be happy yet in some incarnations he does marry Selina and it works. Especially in Batman the Brave and the Bold Bruce and Selina are Damien's parents, then on a alternative Earth they have a baby who grows up to be Huntress, even in the terrible Birds of Prey show they confirmed that a variant of Batman and Catwoman were her parents in that universe. Then there's the Amazonian Princess Diana Prince who I believe is also one of Bruce's true love because Dwayne McDuffie and Paul Dini wrote their relationship so well and even in some comics like the blackest night, rose in legends and even in Dark Knight metal they teased that Bruce and Diana fall in love in several multiverses there's even a comic where they have a kid together. There's also a comic where Bruce and Diana are about to die and Bruce tells Diana he wishes he was perfect for her.
Tom King is a moron.
I only see Bruce with Selina but only because Diana doesn’t age. I don’t like putting characters who don’t age with characters who do. They all end one way.
Definitely showing up for Diana or Catwoman. Both were done so well, I can't help but be content with either route
@aveteranplayer6403 What does that have to do with what I just said?
@@dariusporter358 You do know that Selina has back stab and has try to kill Bruce on multiple occasion through out past and present comics right?
Depression is his one true love 😍😍💗
I am a forever wonderbat supporter. They have such a beautiful chemistry in many shows
Same!!!
(My second ship for Batman is Batanna)
@@funtimefreddygamingz2364 what's batanna
Thank you for including Andrea Beaumont. Mask of the Phantasm is an amazing movie. That movie gives me chills every time I watch it. I’m on team Wonder Bat. I read a lot of Wonder Bat fanfics. Good history assessment though.
I don't really like the Wonder Woman-Batman thing. The DCAU played favorites with Batman too much. Like he gets practically very girl in that universe (even Lois Lane???).
He just got it like that. 😂
Wanna hear a weird fact?
Wonder Woman in the dcau is apparently supposed to be 18.
And at the point when they form the JL, Bruce is well into his 40s.
Eww, Bruce timm, we get it. You have got a weird fetish for making Batman bang underage or girls who are like 20 years younger than him.
BECAUSE HE"S BATMANNNNN!!!!!
They made Bruce absolutely DEVIOUS in the DCAU😂💀😭
But there is no universe without him that's why they liked him so much
Catwoman just feels perfect for Batman but also perfect for Bruce as well
I don't like any of them except Zatanna LOL.
To me, Bruce deserves to have someone like Lois to Clark, someone he can truly rely on, someone he can trust, someone who can put him on check and don't need to worry about his partner committing a felony. He and Selena are cute as a fling but I can never see them really settle down especially not after Gotham War😂.
I want someone kind of like Alfred, can call off his bullshit and assist him in a certain way instead of sabotaging his career.
P.S. And that sounds like Barbara LMAO
I don't know why we never get that, Bruce is always attracted to 'dangerous women' and then goes on and off forever. Even if he and Selena got married, I can't see it ending well, either Bruce becomes a joke for allowing Selena to do whatever she wants or Selena becomes OOC, boring and not dangerous anymore. How about other types of girls?
Gotham War doesn’t count.
@@CaptainEnglehorn yes it does lmao it’s current canon
Before Damian, it was Talia for me. They really had an interesting connection. Now it's Selina. I do hope they make it official. I think Zatanna works best as a close friend to Bruce, not a love interest. I'd like a video like this for Nightwing
glad to see so many people now consider wonder bat real
WonderBat is my favourite Batman & DC ship
Batman’s true love is Gotham but I did always like Batman and Wonder Woman in those animated shows in the early 2000s
I absolutely love the Bruce/Diana duo in the Justice League cartoon
Him and Wonder women is perfect
No
@@staticboyj.r. yes
@@Awsomeman123321 no because they have nothing in common they forced that ship in the justice league animated series outside of that in the comics they are not anywhere near or ever should be a couple. They are friends keep it that way I like Diana. I just don’t want her to end up with Bruce. the relationship would never work. He has so many different options outside of Catwoman and Talia that he could end up with the Zatana has known him since they were kids why not her hell why not Silver St. Cloud
@@staticboyj.r. it's comics almost all characters have tones of different options when it comes to dating. It just comes down to the people creating the story And no nothing about the justice league animated series felt force. Bruce and Diana have plenty in common even outside of their superhero lives. And why would the relationship not work?
@@jflexy1344 like what exactly ?.? because just like the aforementioned animated show most often than not Batman and wonder woman have nothing in comics they work better as friends not a couple they don’t bounce off of each other like the mass majority of all the hero’s do I don’t want you to think I don’t like wonder woman or Batman I just don’t like them together relationship maybe it wasn’t forced forgive me forthat but that relationship literally only works in the animated series. Batman has not dated wonder woman unless it’s been in else world story in comics if you honestly read Batman comics more often than not he’s budding heads with somebody in the justice league i.e. Superman flash, Green Lantern, wonder woman, herself and many others it just makes sense context wise for them to be in a relationship
Batman’s true love is Gotham. Nothing and no one else will ever come before the safety of his city.
In the bat family adventure comics they address how Bruce wants to change the world but he himself is inflexible, while Selena has learned to change and adapt to the world to survive, Bruce gives her stability she never had before and she fills his life with surprise and helps him be capable of change, especially change his views of himself which don't tend to be that positive
Catwoman. They always seemed to have the best chemistry
7:04 Booooooi I almost crashed tf out
me too I literally paused the video and went on a 5 minute tangent about how much she shouldn’t be in top 3 😭🙏🙏🙏 they got me good fr
LMFAO sorry💀😂
The best Batman love story ever written is him with the Joker in the lego batman movie.
Batman’s true love is all of them. He’s a tall handsome crime fighting billionaire can’t just have one love.
Okay not joking or anything I don't think he has one. Because he's in a situation like Spider-Man with MJ where the writers and editors have messed with his love interests so much that he doesn't really have anyone.
3:41 Honorable mention that’s the best one of them all that’s not an honorable mention that’s an absolute good one. I don’t know why you would think that people would click off the video. I hundred percent agree and I think this is the best one for Batman! WonderBat is the best ship for Batman!
Honestly Wonder woman for me think about how in the hell a normal man with no super powers just an excellent intelligence and gadgets was able to woo a amazonian princess who could go toe to toe with superman. Not mention Diana never tried to rape him or leave him at the altar.
Diana will never fkn work out. They have the chemistry of two colleagues. What tf are you smoking???
Meh people only like that ship cause it makes Batman look cool
@@moshymosh you're smoking
@@billyboleson2830 That's not the reason. It's because they actually click.
@@fnspidey3825 You literally have Insomniwoke's Spider-Cuck as your pfp you're the equivalent of a meth addict
Dc gotta make an elseworlds one day where Batman marries Zatanna.
Shocking it hasn't happened yet
6:15 That is the writer’s fault because it was a retcon by a writer who has said that he misremembered their story. Then seeing that error, they retconned that retcon. The actual origin for Damien was a consensual thing. They were in love but then Talia lied about miscarrying Damien so that Bruce wouldn’t have to choose between them and being Batman.
I will never forgive DC writers for ruining her character. She had just a compelling story. While she may follow her father’s orders, she doesn’t necessarily share his ideas and will go against him at times for Bruce. She gives Damien to Bruce because she regrets raising Damien to be that way and wants him to be like Bruce and to live a good life. She’s stuck between wanting to be a good heir and being her own person.
It's worse. They had an entire series called Batman: Death and the Maidens. Which was made a couple of years before Morrison got their hands on writing Batman.
In that story, Talia was captured by her sister, Nyssa. She tortured, killed and revived her with the Lazarus Pit repeatedly over and over again. Until her mind became broken. She then proceeded to brainwash Talia into becoming the new leader of the League of Assassins and renounce her love for Batman.
What's worse, Ra's planned the entire thing. He wanted his daughters to see that his way was the right one, and wanted them to become more ruthless and his successor. What he didn't count on, Nyssa betraying and killed him as revenge for abandoning her in a concentration camp.
DC never addressed this since then, and Morrison's writing for Talia made it much worse since.
@@tsnoob4669 But she did get better over time but her and Bruce relationship however ............ not so much
WE NEED THIS RESTORED. WE NEED THIS BACK!!!
For me on of the mos t important love interests Batman has had is Silver St. cloud.
Unpopular opinion (maybe): he should stay single. Sure, he can have past relationships like Talia, but i dont see him sticking with anyone. He is the kinda character that i interpret as 'married to his work', as in too occupied for a relationship. That and im not particularly attached to any of his potential relationships. Wonder woman has far better options for her love interest. Catwoman and him dont agree on her thief status, and i dont want her to give up being catwoman for him. Talia, I can only see as a past love also due to lifestyle differences as you stated. I have never heard of Andrea before but she seems the best choice, even if it ultimately wont work out. I like all these characters and I think they are better when not permanent love interests, just past relationships and what ifs. Its fine if people disagree because my opinion settles on the fact that I see his character as one that will never achieve a normal happy life. Great video 👍
This is an interesting subject, because when it comes to "Love Interests" in Comic books, everyone has a reason Example A won't work because of something that happened in a single word balloon of a single issue twenty years or something else that happened in one mini-series that proves Example B is the ONLY choice.
Which means the conversation really isn't about which is Better or Worse, it becomes which has been written about the LEAST, because the most well known ones, some with decades of history have had so many writers, so many different versions of them presented, that every single notable love interest has been ruined so many times that even the hardcore fanbase has soured on them.
The case examples are Talia and Selena.
Many fans will never forgive or forget what the writers once had Talia do to Bruce, even if it's apparently been retconned. To me, it was always a bad story decision and completely unnecessary. Bruce and Talia were hot enough for each other that them having a child was always plausible and never needed any "complications." There was enough drama there without taking the story in gross directions it never should have gone. That said, Talia has never been my choice, never cared for her as a character or her story with Batman.
Honestly as someone who grew up with Tim Burton's "Batman," I've always wanted someone to revisit Viki Vale. I know she will never be the great love of the Batman story, but it just always seemed a waste that creators always INVENT new tragic love interests for Batman (Like Andrea Beaumont or Rachel Dawes), instead of use Viki to fill that role. Ironically, her being constantly ignored has made her one of the few love interests the writers haven't screwed up... YET.
But my choice has always been Selena.
For most fans though, Tom King and DC Editorial have completely ruined that relationship beyond any recovery, and I can't blame them.
There was so much potential for a married Bruce and Selena, so many interesting directions they could have gone, so many new stories and difficulties that would have been fresh material, instead of the same tired retreaded tropes DC has tossed out for years and THAT was why DC could not go through with it. Because going that direction would have CHANGED Batman as a character, advanced him and his entire Gotham Universe and that is the one thing DC can never allow to happen. They can never risk having Batman change, grow or evolve. He must remain the same and DC Editorial would even insult their entire consumer base rather than risk that.
Batman’s just going to be alone I don’t see him having a lasting relationship
True
Wonder Woman always has been my favorite.
After the events of Gotham War, I can't stand by Catwoman. Talia Al Ghul has raped him, tried to kill him, tried to kill his entire friends and allies, and did kill their son.
Zatanna or Wonder Woman would be his actual true love. In the comics, Zatanna and Batman have a great relationship and personal history, filled with teenage crushes, betrayal, and growth. It is honestly a fantastic side romance that is actually interesting and has good chemistry.
Wonder Woman and Bruce have a similar dynamic where both have great respect for one another, and have suffered their losses and triumphs together, but can never be together due to their clashing worlds and egos. (Also in the Blackest Night Wonder Woman tie-in, its hinted that Bruce is Wonder Woman's true love)
The r*pe was retconned, and she didn't kill her son. Heretic was the one who killed him, she never wanted that and was pissed about it.
I blame DC for not addressing how before Morrison got his hands on writing for Batman, that Talia was brainwashed into becoming a full on villain and forced to renounce her love for Batman.
Thank you finally someone argues with me 😭😭 that’s a true Batman fan
I don't think that Bruce would be able to fully Zatanna enough to trust her due to the mind wipes. They might remain friends, but I don't think that it would more than that.
Although it might odd, one that might work is Kate Spencer (Manhunter). She's skilled at fighting so she can protect herself, and as far as I know she has no romantic entanglements. She has the potential to be a good match for Bruce.
@@Solitaire001 I doubt she would be interested in Batman considering how she's retired and more focused on keeping her son from danger. Especially the huge risk of getting involved with anything to do with Batman and Gotham City.
@@Solitaire001 That’s a fair enough assessment, I just think that with their past regarding the mindwipes and all the events afterward, a different kind of trust has grown between them.
A trust to never again violate either one of them, especially since Zatanna has actively regretted it and has done her best to mend her relationships.
It just bothers me that Bruce keeps going after Selina despite years of her betraying his trust in various ways, yet the fact that Zatanna has grown into a more mature woman, some authors still write Bruce distrusting her greatly. Bruce distrusts Magic but doesn’t distrust Zatanna imo, same way that he’s wary of Nabu, but respects Kent Nelson
Opinions on nightwings love?
I feel like most ppl would say Babs but I’m a big fan of OG TeenTitans so I have a soft spot for him and Starfire,.
I’m also a fan of RedHood and The Outlaws tho. ✌️
Thoughts?
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I’m still not over the fact that Talia drugged and coerced him into conceiving Damian, so Selina wins in my book between the two.
But the only correct answer is the Joker.
Either Wonder Woman, Catwoman, or JUSTICE!!!!
(I know what you are thinking, Damian Wayne is Bruce Wayne's and Talia al Ghul's child. However, Bruce doesn't show the same amount of love and compassion for her, as to those I mentioned above).
None of the people in the thumbnail. An if I'm being honest as long time comic book reader, Batman's love life has always been one of the least interesting things about him as a character.
Actually him having no love interest kinda made him a boring character lol, It should be andrea or others like ww or zatana but no villians like catwoman or talia there toxic af but Dc should make him a love interest who is a normal citizen,that will make him interesting
For me it will always be Wonder Woman
Definitely Andrea
Agreed. Mask of the Phantasm is a top 5 batman movie for me
Love Andrea
@@ashvideoer top 5? It's number 1!
@@UpamanyuLahiri I said it's in the top 5
Andrea literally was a interesting love interest of his and actually would make him a great character, Tbh catwoman and talia are the worst and toxic
Silver St. Cloud, if I had my way.
Fun Fact: Silver St Cloud was supposed to be the main love interest in Batman 89 before they switched it to Vicky Vale and both characters share a reason for leaving Bruce.
@@kwayneboy1524 That IS a fun fact. Thanks for sharing.
Silver is such an underrated character. I wish an adaptation would include her. She is an intelligent woman and loves Bruce. I genuinely could see her working with him long term.
The Batmobile.☕😐
Silver was the best, she was the only one who accepted Bruce's life as Batman and who wasn't a criminal, it was Batman's purest relationship because she managed to make him smile and accepted his life as Batman, Bruce and Selina's relationship There are several problems but Batman ignores these problems, Selina doesn't know the difference between right and wrong, she has questionable morals and even though she is an anti-hero she is still a criminal she does wrong things to help people, Batman himself has already told Alfred "Selina is a criminal but no one is perfect, this shows that the Batcat relationship has several problems but Bruce ignores these problems because he loves her
When you dropped that 7:00 statement I almost yeeted out off the video before I realized the joke 💀Talk about a poisoned well. In my heart I knew that it was a joke, the fact that this one even made it into a movie just got me wired. Unless it's the LEGO version, NOPE.
Mostly agree on Talia though, it's way to messy. I do enjoy him the most with Catwoman, as I feel she is a part of him and they are somewhat two sides of the same coin. I feel like the RobPatman adaptation has also been very favourable for this dynamic, especially with touching upon Bruces privileges and adding the dimension of not necessarily having a choice in crime, trying to make him question his moral code somewhat. Their comic versions also just have insanely good chemistry. I do think they are the most fun though when they don't settle down (logistical purposes aside), as they both just don't seem like the type. She's however just long been a part of the Batfamily and I feel like Batman just needs these free spirits to change something in him and balance him out, as well as give him something to care about without being too dependant on him!
What would happen if Silver Saint Cloud was an actual love interest for Bruce Wayne Batman similar to Talia-Al-Ghul and Selina Kyle Catwoman?
Silver was the best, she was the only one who accepted Bruce's life as Batman and who wasn't a criminal, it was Batman's purest relationship because she managed to make him smile and accepted his life as Batman, Bruce and Selina's relationship There are several problems but Batman ignores these problems, Selina doesn't know the difference between right and wrong, she has questionable morals and even though she is an anti-hero she is still a criminal she does wrong things to help people, Batman himself has already told Alfred "Selina is a criminal but no one is perfect, this shows that the Batcat relationship has several problems but Bruce ignores these problems because he loves her😊
Read Batman Year Two. It inspired a lot of Mask of the Phantasm, as well as Rachel from the Dark Knight Trilogy movies.
Justice will always be his true love.
Just found this channel - consider me a full fledged lad now (i.e. I've subbed).
Personally I consider Selina Batman's one true love. All the others helped him realize upon finding Selina how she is the one.
Agreed! Welcome to the Lads! 🔥🤝
Before he became Batman, Andrea Beaumont was the first woman he ever loved & hoped for to settle down & lead a normal life until she left him. Some women were romantic interests or flings but Selina and Talia are his main love interests but he wouldn't or couldn't made a committed to any of them completely because he's dedicated his life fighting crimes as Batman.
As long as it’s not Barbra I’m happy
I haven't finished watching the video nor have I read the comments. I've paused at 1:44 All I'm gonna say is they better be Selina, Zatanna and Diana... or, hell, at the very least NOT Barbara Gordon, ffs
Edit:
3:54 Ok, so immediately I'm down 2/3 favorite picks XD My hopes for Selina are still high, tho
Sasha Bordeaux, Zatanna or Andrea Beaumont for me.
I never thought I'd subscribe to a channel of dudes gossiping about characters' love life and me eating the shit up cuz its just rapid fire facts.
Jajajaja fact
True shit fr
I just don’t think he’ll turn anything down. It’s amazing how the Batman character has evolved since the justice league Hall of Fame or whatever in the 70s. He has such an evil dark side now. Most people need a scorecard to keep up with the storyline.
Zatana is my ship🧑✈️
Yeah brother 🤝
I can agree with that as long as it’s not WW
Realll
On A Side Note, is the background music some version of The Dragon Ball Super Tournament of Power theme?
Batman's only true love is "The Mission".
Catwoman is the love of his life. Talia is the woman he had a kid with
Should be Diana Wonder Women. Selina got Ruined by King. She now the ex girlfriend
Absolutely not
I say Wonder Woman, she's my favorite.
Talia al Ghul on second, mostly going off the early stuff.
Catwoman isn't on the list for me. Though i think people should be allowed to have different opinions. Like i am pretty sure i am the only one whoms favorite Robin is Damian Wayne (Prefer Dick as Nightwing and Jason as hood).
You should do a part two with all of batmans civilian girlfriends. That would be kinda cool!
The Bat & The Cat… it’s got a nice ring
wonderbat still reigns
Terrible ship
@@staticboyj.r. Your parents
@@tapeadeadworm well we know who isn’t immature
@@staticboyj.r. cmon buddy lighten up you’re making me look bad ‘ere
@@tapeadeadworm 😒😒
Just a friendly reminder Talia cloned Damian then let the clone kill him truly a great character
Watching this just makes me think that what terry and melanie had was 8x better than what ive seen with bruce and selena
We all know his one true love is justice
For me best love story of Batman was in old cartoon called Mask of Phantasm.
I got a list
Here’s the order of my list that it’s in it goes
1. Batman and cat woman
2. Batman and Wonder Woman (maybe, it’s gotta be done right I think something like this could go really well or really poorly)
3. Batman and anyone else but Barbara
Lol
glad they reconed the ickiest part o Damon's conception like son of the demom
His true love is being the "Goddamm Batman," goddammit!
The mission. It’s always the mission.
Diana of Themyscira. Wonder Woman and Batman are equivalent to Persephone and Hardes
He’s her consent-violating uncle and he hid her away in the batcave without food except pomegranate seeds while her mother freaked the hell out causing winter?
Hell no 😭 Wonderbat is easily one of Diana's worst ships, they have genuinely 0 chemistry in everything outside of the DCAU. Also that comparison doesn't make sense lmao
Julie Madison not seen as a proper love interest is so annoying. She gave up her happiness for him to be batman in the New 52 while she was caring for him when he lost his memories and was lost. In Gotham By Gaslight Masters Of f The Future, she knew batman was Bruce by just looking into his eyes and told him she would support him till the end. Refused to leave his side in Castle Of The Batman. Encouraged him to him to not use the gun as batman in Batman The First Knight.
But no put the graperist as the best love interest
Catwoman isn't a grapeist
They're talking about Talia.
@abiodunsulaiman2297
@@abiodunsulaiman2297in the new 52 it was, but Selina and Talia have the same problem, they both don't know the difference between right and wrong and have questionable morals that's why he and Catwoman have always separated, Selina believes that the best way to save Gotham is committing crimes to help people, Batman says that a crime is a crime that's why they always separated, and Selina has done some things with Bruce, the best one was Silver St Cloud
@@abiodunsulaiman2297 No she worse from nearly killing Bruce to helping villains like the Joker to just straight up murder yeah that right she murder in front of Bruce and he didn't even take her to prison like i said she worse
@@thunderlion6909 She killed someone a few years ago, right? who was it?
No you gotta wrong its the batmobile
My first experience with Zatanna was Young Justice, so I like Zatanna with Robin/Nightwing because they were so cute together in Young Justice.
If there’s two things I hate about Batman comics right now it’s
1. Batman and Catwoman aren’t married
2. Damian Wayne exists
Nah, Damian can be interesting.
Silver was the best, she was the only one who accepted Bruce's life as Batman and who wasn't a criminal, it was Batman's purest relationship because she managed to make him smile and accepted his life as Batman, Bruce and Selina's relationship There are several problems but Batman ignores these problems, Selina doesn't know the difference between right and wrong, she has questionable morals and even though she is an anti-hero she is still a criminal she does wrong things to help people, Batman himself has already told Alfred "Selina is a criminal but no one is perfect, this shows that the Batcat relationship has several problems but Bruce ignores these problems because he loves her
Fr and ever time he become Batman he literally go on a killing spree and burns Gotham to the ground no i'm not joking this was even said by Tim drake Batman in the New 52 that why most fans are glad that Dc writer choose Cassandra Cain to be the next main defender of Gotham because of her heavy belief in Bruce mission and his crusade
@@RodrigoSidartaalbertinipos-j9n In other words Selina and Bruce relationship is toxic and bro that even close to bad stuff selina has done go to Quora and see what i and many other fans who don't like her and bruce relationship mean
@@thunderlion6909 yes it is,and but damian is getting better now, in the new 52 and in rebirth he was very aggressive, damian isn't even aggressive now, he's better off he even gave an inspiring speech
I’m a 90’s kid, I will always believe it’s Wonder Woman 💪🔥
For me its either Selina or Diana.
All I know is it ain't the rapist...
I think it's Talia. I think if Ras never demanded that he head up the League of Shadows,he and Talia could've been happy together.
Obviously, it's Catwoman.
Talia is just for tension.
Zatanna should be the one
Christian Bale and Anne Hathaway
Thomas and Martha are the knly answer...
Those are hiss parentss, The video means romantically
Wonder woman wants Superman, but she can’t have him. He belongs to Lois.
Although I Could Be Wrong It Could Be Talia Al Ghul, Andrea Beaumont Or Some Of Beautiful Woman I Really Don't Know For Sure.
I’d love to get into Batman comics, but I have no clue where to start 😅
they did, watch the epiloge where joker tries to jokerise the entire city and ends up poisoning himself to death