PUT THOSE SPEAKERS ON STANDS!!! 😬😂🤘 Oh wait I watched the video all the way through. Thanks for the mention Aaron. Means a lot. Can’t wait to hear your thoughts once you get your stands up and going. Enjoy them.
I bought a pair of Heresy’s new in 1976 along with a Yamaha receiver and a very nice turntable. The receiver and turntable long ago bit the dust but the Heresy’s still are cranking. In fact I still have all my original paperwork from that purchase from Custom Audio in Little Rock, AR I’ve always been proud that Klipsch was/is from Hope, AR And I took care of them. They still look very good and of course the sound is brilliant.
I still have my original Heresy speakers, built in March of 1977 (HWO-1) in walnut. The crossovers have been recapped by Critesspeakers, an excellent source of Klipsch info and service. I'll be waiting for my low power tube amp from Decware for awhile as there is a huge backlog. You bought well. I would never part with mine unless I upgraded to Cornwall or LaScala. Or perhaps an open baffle speaker.
@@ForeverAnalog some of the Decware lovers I follow are saying that the Wilsenton R300 is very much in the ballpark performance wise, but without the waiting list. I'll probably look more into it myself when the time comes.
Nice! I recently bought the Heresy IV'S and they certainly have changed over the years. Love the IV'S, have never heard the older ones, would love to compare.
Awesome. I was eyeing the IV's, but couldn't quite come up with the cash for them. I would love to hear how the rear ported bass sounds in comparison to these older models!
@@svtk5104 I have a subwoofer I used with them until I moved them to my wife's system. They don't "need" a subwoofer, but I prefer a little more bass. I replaced them with Forte IV'S in my system and am surprised how much different they sound from each other. The Fortes are more balanced all around, but on some music the Heresy's sound better, but they also can be shriller whereas I don't get any of that from the Fortes. If you have the means, I'd take Fortes, but honestly after the Heresy's are well broken in, they are very nice. But they definitely need 6 months to a year to come into their own.
Nice choice, I have a pair too. Subs are not just for bass especially if it is setup correctly. My sound stage improved and midrange improved. My sub is set up in a manner where for all the jazz I listen to you would not know it's even on until I turn it off. The sub is slightly noticeable on poorly mixed bass heavy music like certain popular genres.
I have a set of Klipsch Heresy’s made in 1981 and I have owned them for about 20 years and I do have a couple of subwoofers with them however for reference listening I play them with out the subwoofers. They are sequential numbers however I think if you’re woofers midrange and tweeters are all matching model numbers it should not make any difference. There are Klipsch Haters and us who really know so don’t let the Haters get to you. And you could get those cabinets repaired and new veneer put on them and they would look magnificent.
Thanks for the video. I loved my Heresy 3’s initially. Then over time realized I was having to cut out quite a few tracks/genres due to how colored and unbalanced they are. Tried the 4’s also and they were too bright for me. When I tried the KLH 5’s I suddenly understood what a “balanced” sound was; now I can listen to practically anything without wincing. The Heresy’s had so many “peaks” at so many frequencies, that I could never find a solo piano recording, for example, that sounded natural and balanced all the way through. Now with the KLH 5’s I have that. For soooo long o thought it was my room - nope - it was the Heresy’s. I still have them, and might use them occasionally outdoors.
That’s too funny, I went down the exact same path! Eventually just couldn’t listen to my Heresy VI anymore, ended up selling them and getting the KLH 5 . Probably not my last speaker but much happier with them. What are you using to drive yours?
@@ForeverAnalog thanks for sharing, I tried a low power tube amp on mine, despite the high efficiency they ultimately sound the best with a high power SS amp (350 per channel @8ohm) the tight bass they produced was incredible ! I just found them to coloured to live with day to day.
I’m a Klipsch guy. I have the Jamo S807 towers(klipsch brand pretty much) and recently decided to get the Klipsch RP 160M for sale on new egg bc of the reviews and high sensitivity. I know they aren’t for everyone but I really think they put out great products consistently. And their old school 2.1 thx system for PCs is still amazing. The Heresy is definitely a bucket list thing for me one day.
I have a pair of K.H.1's. I purchased them new in 1980. I used then daily from then, on to 2012. They have aged well. The sound is still outstanding!!! Low or high volume, they ALWAYS sounded great!! I was curious about what other people thought of them. I then started to look at UA-cam videos about these speakers. I learned then the cross-overs can "ware out". I did more research, and found new crossovers with both Klipsch NOS OEM parts, and new equitant parts. I took a chance and got new x-overs for both. Ithe WOW, was there a good difference!! There was no change in sound, but it was just better. Like listen through a screen door, then having the screen removed. It was really good, then got a lot better!!! This 'upgrade' was not expensive, not hard to do, took about 1/2 hour, I got a credit for returning the old x-overs after a 30 day trial run. I would highly suggest a x-over replacement. btw this would be good time to upgrade internal wiring, and outside connectors. My outside connectors were dull finish, flathead screws, originally. Please do a video review of this upgrade, if you do it. KL
If I was going to keep them forever...I'd take them apart and bring the cabinets to a cabinet maker and get them re-veneered. It's so worth it, especially for an active-grained hardwood. They will look better than new. $625 in that condition is fine. Here in rural New England, I recently saw some HBR in slightly worse condition with $850 asking price. Also...klipsch recreate realism, dynamics and impact much better than low efficiency boutique speakers that round off the top and have a laid back voice that won't do loud. The toe up tilt is how they work, they don't need a stand. They do need space. Unlike brick-like boutique speakers, they should not be close to side walls and each other. The biggest horn mistake is a too-small, live room.
Forever Analog, I always watch your videos from start to finish and often multiple times days or weeks after that for fun or to recall something you reviewed, etc. I'll never understand viewers out there with the attention spans of fruit flies that can't watch a video fully and properly before commenting. Oh, well... :)
I know how you feel going through so many speakers till you find that one pair that just feels right for you. I found a pair of Klipsch kg4 (1985) with the Bob Crites updated tweeter and crossover. They are in A+ condition and I got them for $350 (I know, crazy). I have them paired with an all-tube amp and preamp (Rogue Audio 2005/07). This system is mostly just for playing my records. My TT is a Sony PS-X500 (1981). This is endgame for my main system. Love your videos (subscribed). Thanks!
I paid $600 from my Heresy ll about 2y ago in the Tampa Bay FL Area. Similar price, mine came with the factory tilted wedge, sequential serial numbers and slightly different driver layout from the I.5 to the II. My thinking is that serial numbers are just paper work for the order an item was produced and really don’t have anything To do with performance! Of course no one will disagree that it sounds fancy, just my common sense speaking here I could be wrong.....lol. Anyway I’m pushing mine with a Yamaha AS501 and I do run a Polk HTS10 sub with them for just a touch of heavier bottom end ! I own 14 pairs of speakers vintage and new and the Heresys are my pride and joy right now! I definitely share your excitement about their sound and I’m looking forward to see the custom stands!
I wasn't sure if the sequential serial numbers were important or just a reason to try and resell them for more, lol. I bet that Yamaha AS501 sounds sweet with the Heresys!
Great video! I found my Heresy 1s 11 months ago and have been blown away! I have a McIntosh MA2275 fully tube integrated that sounds fantastic with the Heresys. Mine are also from 1984, so they are also 1.5s. My serial number is pretty close to yours, but mine are oiled walnut, so they are pretties (sorry, dude). I also got them cheaper, but I'm up in MA, where speakers are always available. I had been in love with some JBL 4411 studio monitors, but now, I'm not sure I can ever move on from the Klipsch. I may hook the JBLs up again soon just to compare now that I've lived with the Heresys for almost a year. We are totally on the same page, though. Great speakers and I agree that they don't "need" a sub. They bring the bass when the bass is needed, but it's tight and not bloated. But some people just can't get along without pounding, bloated bass. These won't be for them. Enjoy the Heresys and thanks again for the great review.
Got my birch veneer Heresy in 77. Still in use and need to sand and re-wax them. Mine have quarter round on the front edges. Serial number was stamped on the top board end 46r298 and 46r299. Label had no number but the signature of the inspector. Stock wiring near the top of the rear.
I picked up a pair of 1977 Heresy speakers this week, haven't even hooked them up. I've read a lot about how they lack bass. What I think is going on there is that the bass culture changed in the 90s with a lot of electronic music, DJ stuff, and "let's see if we can shatter the windshield" thinking. That's not me, I want to hear balanced music. I have a really good early 70s passive subwoofer, though, kind of rare, can't think of the brand atm. I think it will be perfect. It's a sub that you can't tell it's on until you turn it off, just what I was looking for. I also have one 80s Heresy speaker, just checked, yeah, plastic horn, I had no idea.
cool and informative video for someone who is wrestling with pulling the trigger on a pair of these (me). i wish i could hear them in person to judge the bass response for myself. thats the only thing that is making me hesitate. i cant imagine its as bad as a lot of forum dwellers make it seem...thanks for the info! hadnt come across your channel before and im into it. easy to watch and listen to, no annoying overhyped voice or edits which is very much appreciated.
I eventually paired mine with a cheap subwoofer from Emotiva and it helped round out the bass but one could say that about any pair of speakers! Thanks for watching and for the kind words!
Klipsch was a brand I was never interested in, mainly from its reputation. After becoming bored with this hobby and klipsch coming out with the Heresy IV and it’s ten hertz down bass ports , I bought them with my first tube amp, the Wilsenton R8 last year. It totally revitalized my passion for the hobby. At 54 , these will be the last speakers for me. Wonderful Oh I still have a bunch of others , Focals , LS/35a among others but the Heresy’s will be my main system speakers forever. If I ever upgrade , it will be Cornwalls. Now off to explore tube amps. I have Sunfire sub I use with them.
Love the classic Minor Threat front porch (rendition art) at the intro. I picked up the Klipsch McLaren ear buds... Great sound quality, but they just don't get loud enough.
i recently heard some La Scala with some upgraded bits by Klipsch themselves. In the same house, different room, i heard vintage Heresy. They werent even close for imaging, separation, etc. The heresy sounded good, but they were not mind blowing like the la scala... so i'd say probably not. La Scala has like no bottom end, but oh man everything else is awesome. Simply awesome.
Also, the best they ever sounded was raised up about 18” AND LEVELED. Pull them about 5 ft away from front wall and toe in to taste. But they’ve GOT to be raised up to get the image off the floor.
a few months ago i learned the Heresy was also available in a "Pro" line for a number of years and there are a lot of iterations on those. the owner sold the pair before i was available to pick them up, the price is much lower than for the 'home edition' and i've read ppl modify those for an indoor listening space.. in essence they use a different woofer and a different voicing (less attenuation on mids and highs) for PA usage (over 100dB sensitivity and 200W continuous maybe?). some models look v good w/ metal grills and no handles.. ps: that was a good price for the pair. as you probably know, ppl put all sorts of veneer on them..
I have a air of Heresy IV, and tried a pair of Zu Omen II's. I was hoping for slightly different sound signature so I could rotate speakers here & there for fun. The Zu's were really mid-forward and I tried everything to make them work. They ended up going back - which isn't bad since I enjoy the Heresys a lot. Think twice or try and demo them without buying. Return shipping is on you and it will set you back an hour of packing and $150
i got to say the kliipsch 4s are way more xpenive i think.i do love the mid of the zus and the bass is bigger in my room by a lot, .its tru that placement w the zus is an ongoing challenge.aint giving up on them. no way, when they are good i mean great
Congrats! I have always been curious about Klipsch Heritage speakers in France because they're way overpriced compared to local brands like Elipson and Cabasse (you can get similar speaker pairs for 200€ vintage). At $600 the Heresy is a no-brainer because you could immediately sell them for more. It makes you wonder why budget speakers even exist because the resale value is null and the sound ain't impressive. I would be flustered in your position because you reached end-game so soon.
I have 5 Crown amps currently. I sold my big McIntosh collection a few years back. I still have Crowns for a reason. Insanely High Damping Factors, perfect tonal balance, etc....
I love my Heresy's. I also have a pair of vintage Klipsch Belle's. Also,I am going to modify them as well! I back graded,not upgraded them. Paul Klipsch was very frugal! He abandoned the EV SP 12b driver's ,that were used in the Original Heresy's,for less expensive stamped frame woofers ,that lacked the same efficiency,and suffer from ringing within the cabinet. Midrange squaker ;was a K 700 horn/ Atlas compression driver. Yours still have the EV T 35 ( K 77) tweeters
I have a pair of the vintage as yours ,and I purchased a pair of empty Heresy cabinets. I then have been playing around with different vintage horns,and drivers. Old is Better!!!
I'm literally exhausted by my search for a decent loudspeaker that combines esthetics in our vintage modern living room and good vocal, instrument separations, decent bass (but not a priority). I did audition these at the same shop where I purchased my RP-600M's. They RP-600M are amazing and then I did something stupid and purchased a big pair of floorstanders (not Kipsch). The RP-600M are now in a spare room. thanks for the review and comforting me in my choice for the next upgrade.
For some strange reason you can buy my B&O (S45 or S75) rosewood cabinet speakers for $200 all day. Mid size and nicer look than furniture. And they are B&O.
Beauty doesn't make sound. I enjoy the same choices in music. I have tons of classic rock, but listen to jazz mostly these days. I do love vintage equipment and IMO, the bigger the better where speakers are concerned. Altec, maybe. Most enjoyable listening to you. I'm 72 and a rock drummer since 1964. I like that you stay our of the $100,000 +/- range. Most Don't. Normal, Real World. Thank You & Best Regards.
I bought my pair of Klipsch KP201s (pro version of Heresy 2) for $150 in excellent condition other than needing a $25 tweeter diaphragm replacement. I once used them along with an 18" commercial cinema sub for an outdoor wedding reception dance and was blown away by the volume level they were capable of with no sense of distress. Under their black texture skin they are birch plywood. I sometimes wonder if stripping them to bare wood would allow me to sell them for several hundred bucks at current market prices. I also recently bought a pair of Yamaha Club Series 3 15" 2-way PA speakers in good condition with real oak veneer for $120. I think they sound at least as good as my Heresy 2s, though they are probably a bit more in need of a sub for music playback due to being ported and thus less friendly to bass boost.
I have that Sony receiver paired with the Sony SS CS5 bookshelf speakers and the Sony SS CS9 subwoofer. The base from the sub is tuned just enough to give the bookshelf speakers a little bottom end without noticing the sub. If I ever had the room for bigger speakers I would look for a pair of vintage Sansui SF-2 speakers from the mid-70s. We had those in our home in my teens, and they are still the best-sounding speakers I ever heard.
Having modified 100's of Klipsch speakers I can say that the version you have is a departure from the original series one in that the squaker or midrange horn is in fact plastic as you stated but the big deal is the compression driver used in these is a much worse unit than the Atlas Soundoiler pd5 aka Klipsch k55. If you get a pair of k700's and the k55 and just swap them out the difference will be huge. Subsequently if you put the tweeter and midrange on the outside of the baffle you will gain another giant leap in sonnics. Those two mods won't break the bank especially if you do it yourself. Further, trash the crossovers and replace them with a crossover that is built for a crossover frequency of 1200 hz and 5000 hz, again huge improvement. Also switch to the original series one woofer the Electrovoice SP12 in 8 ohms. The last two mods will cost you a large portion of what you paid for these, and really at this point you have changed everything but the tweeter and box. Seriously consider the midrange replacement and moving the horns to the front of the baffles and sell the plastic horns and cheep mid drivers because it won't cost you much for a huge sonic improvement.
😂 welcome to the club. I have owned La Scala, heresy and others. Currently using Forte2 (highly recommended👍) And am in the middle of refurbishing a pair of Cornwall 2 that are going to get crites tweeters) Paired with Svs 12 “ sealed sub I think I’m good till a pair of 800.00 klipschhorns magically appear 😂
Back in 79 I bought a pair of ESS AMT 3b Monitor towers. - I believe called Rock Monitors in the US. They were the best speakers I ever had, and would love to find a refurbished pair at a reasonable price.
I grew up with ESS towers my dad had (1970) and with a Luxman reciever absolutely amazing sound. They aren't exactly small however, but this was a big room
Get a Rel T5 sub. It’s not so much about big bass but balance and a grounding of the sound. My Heresy IVs with that sub are spectacular with jazz, singer sing writer, you name it. The Heresy’s with a sub dialed in are special. You haven’t heard what that little 6 watt amp can really sound like until you hook up that T5. Have fun! It’s a great hobby. Enjoyed your video and yes I watched it in its entirety. 😂. Peace ✌️
I used to have a pair of oiled oak Heresy 1.5’s and enjoyed them for a couple years. But then I found a pair of JBL L100’s and prefer red them for having that fullness that I was missing from the Heresy. Unfortunately, I decided to sell the Heresy in order fund brand new grills for the L100’s. I still miss the Klipsch from time to time. They had that attack and decay that I just love.
Changing the binding post is not an up grade. The original is almost direct wire. Now electricity has to pass through those new style wire mounts, it changes everything.
I've bought my last speaker's 4 or5 times now. So no, that will not be your last speaker purchase. What Klipsch does well, they actually do very very well. Besides having a pair of Tannoys, I have a pair of Klipsch RP 600 Mll and a pair Klipsch Heresy lV. For me, Klipsch speakers are great if you entertain or party often, where as the Tannoys are more for dedicated total silence eyes closed listening. Especially if you're listening to female jazz voices. Klipsch are great also for people like me who are older and hs e some slight hearing loss in the treble highs. Both spesker brands love tubes in the mix. The Klipsch speakers realy love to play loud, and they play loud very well. As the old Klipsch add used to say, " Klipsch, Pissing off your neighbors since 1946."
Would love to know how they pair with the opposite ends of the extremes-Your McIntosh and your Cambridge AXA 25 and the differences you notice. Looking forward to more information on your records for sale.
Nice review. I would get a pr of vintage Forte lls. I have a pr 1994. I also have a pr of RF-7 IIIs Didn't really like them at first but after they broke in I really love them now. They are something to behold and if you have the room😁
I have these exact speakers, Heresy 1.5’s with the same drivers. Pd $700. My SN’s 8428920 & 8427782. I agree with everything you say about these speakers. I changed the capacitors using a kit from Crites. I also added two ports per speaker and that added bass and improved the overall blend of the bass speaker and the squawker. I LOVE these. I also use low power tube amps, Rockville BluTube 25 watt, and also used the Reisong A10 8 watt. A good woodworking shop can add lamination that will make these look new for a relatively low cost. Enjoy.
Awesome! I added a small subwoofer this weekend and am trying to incorporate into my system properly, but overall I can't get enough of these speakers! Thanks for watching!
It is so exciting to find a pair of speakers that meet the needs of your music. It is never an "always" or "never" and you should have different "flavors" floating around to switch back and forth with. The same speakers you listen to a live jazz recording is not going to be the same set you watch the latest Roland Emmerich disaster flick with or listen to jungle-core-death-techno. BTW - the dings give them character. Maybe your next hobby will be woodworking and you can refinish them ;)
For me my h3s get sweater and sweater the more I listen to them. And find myself listening to everything, I mean they don’t do tracks like the prodigys poison justice but not many speaker can ! but play“there law” the 05 remaster, man now that’s something special through these speakers as is nayran. Faithless insomnia, kosheen all sound incredible, but play something like The internets “get away” or Lilly Moore and they are utterly magical. The texture and tonality they can produce is quite special. They require a “full fat” amp something really fleshy to them justice . I don’t like the sound of them with NAD c320 for example, it’s too lean not enough current. I drive mine with a sugden a21. I can’t be arsed with tubes. Partnered with a chord qutest as it has a class A output stage, a technics 1200gr, again because it’s really fleshy and a musical fidelity mx vynl phone stage oh and a nag mp150 cart. Never had such fun with a hifi and i certainly can’t see me getting rid of it
I have a pair of the same vintage Heresy's,plus some empty Heresy cabinets. Mid 80's design on both. I built,and rebuilt both designs. The Woofers are inefficient ( Compared with earlier designs), and the plastic mid horn/ compression drivers sound horrible! Advice: pick up some K 700 metal horns / with EV 1823 drivers,and replace the woofers with vintage EV SP 12's,or EVM 12L's. You're going to be Amazed!
I really like the Cambridge AXA35 or Denon DCD600 - I've upgraded to using an expensive CD transport and external DAC now, but those models always treated well at the start of CD player buying journey.
unreal i actually have basically both of those speaks in my room.buddy loand me his hklipch herrssy 2s so i could compare w zu dw 2 .i cant trally type about but the zus are like the other side of the same coin.i miss the other one when im with this one. grrat prob to have!
How much have they changed over the decades? I found a pair at goodwill but they’re the very first ones (H700). And yeah every time I say “Klipsch heresy” it sounds like I have a lisp
Great question. I haven’t had a chance to hook them up to the 2505 yet while I’m working on this tube amp review but that will be my next pairing for sure!
In my opinon it would be worth it to seek out a used Harmon kardon or a Luxman integrated amp for those speakers to really shine.Try your local thrift store & or Good Will..just avoid crap like pioneer & Mid eighties sony receivers, Marantz?
I love it. I bought it used on Facebook Market for like $250 (I think it originally sells for $800). I have a video review on my channel if interested!
Class D amps?? Pure Heresey!!! Class A solid state amplifiers don't get along with Horn Speakers very well either! Tube Amps: Single Ended,Or Push/ Pull ,work Great! In my 30+ years of building speakers and swapping equipment,the only amplifier that brought the Best in Klipsch Heritage Speakers is a good Crown Power Amp! My Audiophile friends are cringing now! Lol! Seriously,CROWN!
Please explain why would anyone take a speaker that naturally is on the bright and harsh side, and lacks in low end. Why point them up toward your ears, and decouple it from the floor for less bass. They are best flat on the floor close to the rear wall for more lows , and less treble , and they will then balance out , in the room , when turned up a little .
You didn’t specify exactly what you meant by stands. Original Klipsch stands for the Heresy were only to angle them back much as you’ve done (mine are Heresy 1 with factory stands). I’d suggest that before you jump into elevating them 18” or 2 feet or more that you test the idea first with something makeshift. You’ll be surprised at the loss of bass response. I tried putting mine on cinder blocks as an experiment and they sounded horrible. Probably most of the people recommending putting them on stands know little about Klipsch speakers and likely little about acoustics either. It sounds like a good idea at the outset abd may work well with other speakers but I think you’ll be happier with these remaining on the floor but with “low riser” type stands that still keep them coupled to the floor but angled back.
@@ForeverAnalog I even watched your entire video but didn’t see the photo of the stands. Hmmm, probably had something to do with driving on a road trip while listening (not watching - well, occasional glimpse) to the video. I think you’ll be happy with that arrangement. Too much elevation changes their character dramatically. Some say then use a sub - but then I say what’s the point of having Klipsch then? I have an extremely long history with Klipsch speakers beginning from high school in the early 70s in my band classroom to getting them for several band programs where I taught band and orchestra to finally buying my own first Klipsch KG4s to La Scalas to eventually Klipschorns in a room added on specifically made for Klipschorns and music performance. Sadly had to sell the KHorns due to life circumstances changing and just recently got a pair of 1980 year Heresy 1.
Absolutely agree about using the low wedge stands, tried them up at 15 inches off the ground and the bass disappeared. As to the sub, I have one blended very subtly and love it. It just extends things in good ways for my tastes, I'd suggest to new folks at least trying it.
@@herosquadlivemusic4815 My cinder block stand experiment didn’t give me much incentive to raise them that high. However, I have heard some mention that fully enclosing the stand and making it fit the dimensions of the base of the speaker would help preserve some (maybe all?) of the bass response. I’m not planning to try that. However, I should post a link to an easy to do and reversible crossover mod I’ve heard about that lowers the midrange and tweeter output by about 3dB to match the woofer better. I’ve done it but I’m still evaluating and I might go back to the original crossover configuration. My room needs more of its hard surfaces covered to reduce some of the early reflections that make the treble seem brighter and less clear. After that I’ll have to re-evaluate the mod.
in a interveiw chris robinson black crowea quiped about (klipsch speaker muff)i laffed my ass off cause i think i get it. like the big furry klisch speaks?
Uhhhhh.....no. Never did like my Heresy 1.5's. Neither did my friends when they came over. Got tired of fussing around with them. Stands, no stands, room placement, subwoofer addition, yada yada yada. Sold them at a profit and got rid of the headache.
More and more vintage gear is OVERPRICED thse days...not worth it. More issues, more $$$ repairing. If you're lucky, it will be in very gud condition..then consider it.
Screw those idiots that have to rain on your parade by saying you paid too much. I live in Los Angeles, where these things in that shape would have been 8/900. If the veneer was nice they'd be over 1000
I think folks mean well, they just remember the days when you could stumble on a pair of these at a garage sale for $50, lol. Those days are long gone!
@@ForeverAnalog The ones that i bought had already upgraded crossovers, i also had the Stock 70s crossovers and the speakers were not good. The tweeter horn is just a bad idea with its Plastic Diaphragm.
PUT THOSE SPEAKERS ON STANDS!!! 😬😂🤘 Oh wait I watched the video all the way through. Thanks for the mention Aaron. Means a lot. Can’t wait to hear your thoughts once you get your stands up and going. Enjoy them.
Stands arrived yesterday, but I'll probably have to wait until the weekend to put together. Excited!
If you enjoy the way they sound, i think you made a great deal. congrats.
Very well put. Thank you!
I bought a pair of Heresy’s new in 1976 along with a Yamaha receiver and a very nice turntable. The receiver and turntable long ago bit the dust but the Heresy’s still are cranking. In fact I still have all my original paperwork from that purchase from Custom Audio in Little Rock, AR I’ve always been proud that Klipsch was/is from Hope, AR And I took care of them. They still look very good and of course the sound is brilliant.
Awesome! I have family in Conway and we drove through Little Rock for years to visit them. Thank you for sharing!
I still have my original Heresy speakers, built in March of 1977 (HWO-1) in walnut. The crossovers have been recapped by Critesspeakers, an excellent source of Klipsch info and service. I'll be waiting for my low power tube amp from Decware for awhile as there is a huge backlog. You bought well. I would never part with mine unless I upgraded to Cornwall or LaScala. Or perhaps an open baffle speaker.
I would love a decware but have been too impatient to order one lol
@@ForeverAnalog some of the Decware lovers I follow are saying that the Wilsenton R300 is very much in the ballpark performance wise, but without the waiting list. I'll probably look more into it myself when the time comes.
Thanks for the heads up!
Bought my Heresys in the late ‘70s , still have them. I’ve gone through Altecs, JBL’s and Totems since then. Always returned to the Heresy.
Awesome. Thank you for sharing!
Thank You. That's good food for thought.
Great video. Got Klipsch speakers, too (Klipsch Reference RB-75). 20 years old now, still work perfectly, never felt the need up upgrade.
Awesome! Thank you for watching!
Nice! I recently bought the Heresy IV'S and they certainly have changed over the years.
Love the IV'S, have never heard the older ones, would love to compare.
Awesome. I was eyeing the IV's, but couldn't quite come up with the cash for them. I would love to hear how the rear ported bass sounds in comparison to these older models!
How happy are you with them? Is the bass enough?
@@svtk5104 I have a subwoofer I used with them until I moved them to my wife's system. They don't "need" a subwoofer, but I prefer a little more bass.
I replaced them with
Forte IV'S in my system and am surprised how much different they sound from each other. The Fortes are more balanced all around, but on some music the Heresy's sound better, but they also can be shriller whereas I don't get any of that from the Fortes.
If you have the means, I'd take Fortes, but honestly after the Heresy's are well broken in, they are very nice. But they definitely need 6 months to a year to come into their own.
Klipsch Heresy speakers are keepers for sure. :)
Nice choice, I have a pair too. Subs are not just for bass especially if it is setup correctly. My sound stage improved and midrange improved. My sub is set up in a manner where for all the jazz I listen to you would not know it's even on until I turn it off. The sub is slightly noticeable on poorly mixed bass heavy music like certain popular genres.
Awesome. Thanks for watching!
Same
I have a set of Klipsch Heresy’s made in 1981 and I have owned them for about 20 years and I do have a couple of subwoofers with them however for reference listening I play them with out the subwoofers. They are sequential numbers however I think if you’re woofers midrange and tweeters are all matching model numbers it should not make any difference.
There are Klipsch Haters and us who really know so don’t let the Haters get to you.
And you could get those cabinets repaired and new veneer put on them and they would look magnificent.
Thanks for the video. I loved my Heresy 3’s initially. Then over time realized I was having to cut out quite a few tracks/genres due to how colored and unbalanced they are. Tried the 4’s also and they were too bright for me. When I tried the KLH 5’s I suddenly understood what a “balanced” sound was; now I can listen to practically anything without wincing. The Heresy’s had so many “peaks” at so many frequencies, that I could never find a solo piano recording, for example, that sounded natural and balanced all the way through. Now with the KLH 5’s I have that. For soooo long o thought it was my room - nope - it was the Heresy’s. I still have them, and might use them occasionally outdoors.
Those KLHs are another pair I could see myself buying later on lol. Thanks for watching!
That’s too funny, I went down the exact same path! Eventually just couldn’t listen to my Heresy VI anymore, ended up selling them and getting the KLH 5 . Probably not my last speaker but much happier with them. What are you using to drive yours?
I have it paired with a low watt tube amp that I’m hopefully making a review video for this weekend.
@@ForeverAnalog thanks for sharing, I tried a low power tube amp on mine, despite the high efficiency they ultimately sound the best with a high power SS amp (350 per channel @8ohm) the tight bass they produced was incredible ! I just found them to coloured to live with day to day.
I’m a Klipsch guy. I have the Jamo S807 towers(klipsch brand pretty much) and recently decided to get the Klipsch RP 160M for sale on new egg bc of the reviews and high sensitivity. I know they aren’t for everyone but I really think they put out great products consistently. And their old school 2.1 thx system for PCs is still amazing. The Heresy is definitely a bucket list thing for me one day.
Awesome. Yeah it took me many years to finally pick up the Heresys!
I have a pair of K.H.1's. I purchased them new in 1980. I used then daily from then, on to 2012. They have aged well. The sound is still outstanding!!! Low or high volume, they ALWAYS sounded great!!
I was curious about what other people thought of them. I then started to look at UA-cam videos about these speakers. I learned then the cross-overs can "ware out". I did more research, and found new crossovers with both Klipsch NOS OEM parts, and new equitant parts. I took a chance and got new x-overs for both. Ithe
WOW, was there a good difference!!
There was no change in sound, but it was just better. Like listen through a screen door, then having the screen removed. It was really good, then got a lot better!!!
This 'upgrade' was not expensive, not hard to do, took about 1/2 hour, I got a credit for returning the old x-overs after a 30 day trial run.
I would highly suggest a x-over replacement. btw this would be good time to upgrade internal wiring, and outside connectors.
My outside connectors were dull finish, flathead screws, originally.
Please do a video review of this upgrade, if you do it. KL
Thankfully the person I bought these from already did the upgrade! Thanks for sharing!
If I was going to keep them forever...I'd take them apart and bring the cabinets to a cabinet maker and get them re-veneered. It's so worth it, especially for an active-grained hardwood. They will look better than new. $625 in that condition is fine. Here in rural New England, I recently saw some HBR in slightly worse condition with $850 asking price.
Also...klipsch recreate realism, dynamics and impact much better than low efficiency boutique speakers that round off the top and have a laid back voice that won't do loud.
The toe up tilt is how they work, they don't need a stand. They do need space. Unlike brick-like boutique speakers, they should not be close to side walls and each other. The biggest horn mistake is a too-small, live room.
Great advice, thank you!
Forever Analog, I always watch your videos from start to finish and often multiple times days or weeks after that for fun or to recall something you reviewed, etc. I'll never understand viewers out there with the attention spans of fruit flies that can't watch a video fully and properly before commenting. Oh, well... :)
Thank you!
I know how you feel going through so many speakers till you find that one pair that just feels right for you. I found a pair of Klipsch kg4 (1985) with the Bob Crites updated tweeter and crossover. They are in A+ condition and I got them for $350 (I know, crazy). I have them paired with an all-tube amp and preamp (Rogue Audio 2005/07). This system is mostly just for playing my records. My TT is a Sony PS-X500 (1981). This is endgame for my main system. Love your videos (subscribed). Thanks!
I let a pair of those KG4s go after finding them at a yard sale, which I still regret! Thanks for watching and sharing!
I paid $600 from my Heresy ll about 2y ago in the Tampa Bay FL Area.
Similar price, mine came with the factory tilted wedge, sequential serial numbers and slightly different driver layout from the I.5 to the II.
My thinking is that serial numbers are just paper work for the order an item was produced and really don’t have anything
To do with performance! Of course no one will disagree that it sounds fancy, just my common sense speaking here
I could be wrong.....lol.
Anyway I’m pushing mine with a Yamaha AS501 and I do run a Polk HTS10 sub with them for just a touch of heavier
bottom end !
I own 14 pairs of speakers vintage and new and the Heresys are my pride and joy right now!
I definitely share your excitement about their sound and I’m looking forward to see the custom stands!
I wasn't sure if the sequential serial numbers were important or just a reason to try and resell them for more, lol. I bet that Yamaha AS501 sounds sweet with the Heresys!
Great video! I found my Heresy 1s 11 months ago and have been blown away! I have a McIntosh MA2275 fully tube integrated that sounds fantastic with the Heresys. Mine are also from 1984, so they are also 1.5s. My serial number is pretty close to yours, but mine are oiled walnut, so they are pretties (sorry, dude). I also got them cheaper, but I'm up in MA, where speakers are always available. I had been in love with some JBL 4411 studio monitors, but now, I'm not sure I can ever move on from the Klipsch. I may hook the JBLs up again soon just to compare now that I've lived with the Heresys for almost a year. We are totally on the same page, though. Great speakers and I agree that they don't "need" a sub. They bring the bass when the bass is needed, but it's tight and not bloated. But some people just can't get along without pounding, bloated bass. These won't be for them. Enjoy the Heresys and thanks again for the great review.
Congrats on your score! Thanks for watching and for sharing!
Got my birch veneer Heresy in 77. Still in use and need to sand and re-wax them. Mine have quarter round on the front edges. Serial number was stamped on the top board end 46r298 and 46r299. Label had no number but the signature of the inspector. Stock wiring near the top of the rear.
Awesome! Thanks for sharing and watching!
Just started the video but want to say I love the picture behind you. Minor threat was favorite growing up!
Thank you! Art by Nathan McKee!
I picked up a pair of 1977 Heresy speakers this week, haven't even hooked them up. I've read a lot about how they lack bass. What I think is going on there is that the bass culture changed in the 90s with a lot of electronic music, DJ stuff, and "let's see if we can shatter the windshield" thinking. That's not me, I want to hear balanced music. I have a really good early 70s passive subwoofer, though, kind of rare, can't think of the brand atm. I think it will be perfect. It's a sub that you can't tell it's on until you turn it off, just what I was looking for. I also have one 80s Heresy speaker, just checked, yeah, plastic horn, I had no idea.
Awesome, thanks for sharing and watching!
cool and informative video for someone who is wrestling with pulling the trigger on a pair of these (me). i wish i could hear them in person to judge the bass response for myself. thats the only thing that is making me hesitate. i cant imagine its as bad as a lot of forum dwellers make it seem...thanks for the info! hadnt come across your channel before and im into it. easy to watch and listen to, no annoying overhyped voice or edits which is very much appreciated.
I eventually paired mine with a cheap subwoofer from Emotiva and it helped round out the bass but one could say that about any pair of speakers! Thanks for watching and for the kind words!
Klipsch was a brand I was never interested in, mainly from its reputation. After becoming bored with this hobby and klipsch coming out with the Heresy IV and it’s ten hertz down bass ports , I bought them with my first tube amp, the Wilsenton R8 last year. It totally revitalized my passion for the hobby.
At 54 , these will be the last speakers for me. Wonderful
Oh I still have a bunch of others , Focals , LS/35a among others but the Heresy’s will be my main system speakers forever. If I ever upgrade , it will be Cornwalls. Now off to explore tube amps.
I have Sunfire sub I use with them.
Awesome - glad you are excited about audio again!
Love the classic Minor Threat front porch (rendition art) at the intro. I picked up the Klipsch McLaren ear buds... Great sound quality, but they just don't get loud enough.
That Minor Threat print is by Nathan McKee!
i recently heard some La Scala with some upgraded bits by Klipsch themselves. In the same house, different room, i heard vintage Heresy. They werent even close for imaging, separation, etc. The heresy sounded good, but they were not mind blowing like the la scala... so i'd say probably not. La Scala has like no bottom end, but oh man everything else is awesome. Simply awesome.
Yeah the previous owner of these Heresys replaced them with la scala lol
It'd be interesting to compare them with the new Heresy IV model
Agreed! Maybe I'll get lucky and stumble on a pair soon! Thanks for watching!
Also, the best they ever sounded was raised up about 18” AND LEVELED. Pull them about 5 ft away from front wall and toe in to taste. But they’ve GOT to be raised up to get the image off the floor.
You did great!!! Very good price, fantastic speakers!!!!!
Thank you! I’m really enjoying them
a few months ago i learned the Heresy was also available in a "Pro" line for a number of years and there are a lot of iterations on those. the owner sold the pair before i was available to pick them up, the price is much lower than for the 'home edition' and i've read ppl modify those for an indoor listening space..
in essence they use a different woofer and a different voicing (less attenuation on mids and highs) for PA usage (over 100dB sensitivity and 200W continuous maybe?). some models look v good w/ metal grills and no handles..
ps: that was a good price for the pair. as you probably know, ppl put all sorts of veneer on them..
Thanks for sharing and watching!
I have a air of Heresy IV, and tried a pair of Zu Omen II's. I was hoping for slightly different sound signature so I could rotate speakers here & there for fun. The Zu's were really mid-forward and I tried everything to make them work. They ended up going back - which isn't bad since I enjoy the Heresys a lot. Think twice or try and demo them without buying. Return shipping is on you and it will set you back an hour of packing and $150
Great to know about the Zu’s thank you!
i got to say the kliipsch 4s are way more xpenive i think.i do love the mid of the zus and the bass is bigger in my room by a lot, .its tru that placement w the zus is an ongoing challenge.aint giving up on them. no way, when they are good i mean great
Congrats! I have always been curious about Klipsch Heritage speakers in France because they're way overpriced compared to local brands like Elipson and Cabasse (you can get similar speaker pairs for 200€ vintage). At $600 the Heresy is a no-brainer because you could immediately sell them for more. It makes you wonder why budget speakers even exist because the resale value is null and the sound ain't impressive. I would be flustered in your position because you reached end-game so soon.
Thank you! I’ve really enjoyed these speakers!
Cabasse and Elipson use dome tweeters. I have JMR Cantibile and also a pair of Klipsch . Horns are better. Sometimes domes are better…..:-)
@@gdwlaw5549 So domes and horns are different. I don’t use either. I use single driver speakers with fullrange field coil drivers. No crossover.
I have 5 Crown amps currently. I sold my big McIntosh collection a few years back. I still have Crowns for a reason. Insanely High Damping Factors, perfect tonal balance, etc....
I love my Heresy's. I also have a pair of vintage Klipsch Belle's. Also,I am going to modify them as well! I back graded,not upgraded them. Paul Klipsch was very frugal! He abandoned the EV SP 12b driver's ,that were used in the Original Heresy's,for less expensive stamped frame woofers ,that lacked the same efficiency,and suffer from ringing within the cabinet. Midrange squaker ;was a K 700 horn/ Atlas compression driver. Yours still have the EV T 35 ( K 77) tweeters
Awesome, thanks for watching!
I have a pair of the vintage as yours ,and I purchased a pair of empty Heresy cabinets. I then have been playing around with different vintage horns,and drivers. Old is Better!!!
I'm literally exhausted by my search for a decent loudspeaker that combines esthetics in our vintage modern living room and good vocal, instrument separations, decent bass (but not a priority). I did audition these at the same shop where I purchased my RP-600M's. They RP-600M are amazing and then I did something stupid and purchased a big pair of floorstanders (not Kipsch). The RP-600M are now in a spare room. thanks for the review and comforting me in my choice for the next upgrade.
Buying speakers is so stressful to me, lol. I feel your pain! Thanks for watching!
For some strange reason you can buy my B&O (S45 or S75) rosewood cabinet speakers for $200 all day. Mid size and nicer look than furniture. And they are B&O.
Beauty doesn't make sound. I enjoy the same choices in music. I have tons of classic rock, but listen to jazz mostly these days. I do love vintage equipment and IMO, the bigger the better where speakers are concerned. Altec, maybe. Most enjoyable listening to you. I'm 72 and a rock drummer since 1964. I like that you stay our of the $100,000 +/- range. Most Don't. Normal, Real World.
Thank You & Best Regards.
Thanks for watching!
I bought my pair of Klipsch KP201s (pro version of Heresy 2) for $150 in excellent condition other than needing a $25 tweeter diaphragm replacement. I once used them along with an 18" commercial cinema sub for an outdoor wedding reception dance and was blown away by the volume level they were capable of with no sense of distress. Under their black texture skin they are birch plywood. I sometimes wonder if stripping them to bare wood would allow me to sell them for several hundred bucks at current market prices. I also recently bought a pair of Yamaha Club Series 3 15" 2-way PA speakers in good condition with real oak veneer for $120. I think they sound at least as good as my Heresy 2s, though they are probably a bit more in need of a sub for music playback due to being ported and thus less friendly to bass boost.
Amazing. Thank you for sharing and watching!
I have that Sony receiver paired with the Sony SS CS5 bookshelf speakers and the Sony SS CS9 subwoofer. The base from the sub is tuned just enough to give the bookshelf speakers a little bottom end without noticing the sub.
If I ever had the room for bigger speakers I would look for a pair of vintage Sansui SF-2 speakers from the mid-70s.
We had those in our home in my teens, and they are still the best-sounding speakers I ever heard.
I’ve stumbled on several Sansui speakers over the years so keep your eyes peeled 💪🏻
I bought a pair of HBR's brand new in 1978. Awesome tight bass.
Awesome thank you for sharing!
I believe the positive would be for having sequential numbers is they would have matching wood. Wood coming from the same piece of wood or batch.
Great point thank you!
Having modified 100's of Klipsch speakers I can say that the version you have is a departure from the original series one in that the squaker or midrange horn is in fact plastic as you stated but the big deal is the compression driver used in these is a much worse unit than the Atlas Soundoiler pd5 aka Klipsch k55. If you get a pair of k700's and the k55 and just swap them out the difference will be huge.
Subsequently if you put the tweeter and midrange on the outside of the baffle you will gain another giant leap in sonnics.
Those two mods won't break the bank especially if you do it yourself.
Further, trash the crossovers and replace them with a crossover that is built for a crossover frequency of 1200 hz and 5000 hz, again huge improvement.
Also switch to the original series one woofer the Electrovoice SP12 in 8 ohms.
The last two mods will cost you a large portion of what you paid for these, and really at this point you have changed everything but the tweeter and box.
Seriously consider the midrange replacement and moving the horns to the front of the baffles and sell the plastic horns and cheep mid drivers because it won't cost you much for a huge sonic improvement.
😂 welcome to the club. I have owned La Scala, heresy and others. Currently using Forte2 (highly recommended👍)
And am in the middle of refurbishing a pair of Cornwall 2 that are going to get crites tweeters)
Paired with Svs 12 “ sealed sub I think I’m good till a pair of 800.00 klipschhorns magically appear 😂
Wow!!! I would LOVE a visit to your place for listening session!
Interesting, entertaining & a cliffhanger. You're a triple threat. 🔈🔉🔊
You are very kind, thank you!
Back in 79 I bought a pair of ESS AMT 3b Monitor towers. - I believe called Rock Monitors in the US. They were the best speakers I ever had, and would love to find a refurbished pair at a reasonable price.
I grew up with ESS towers my dad had (1970) and with a Luxman reciever absolutely amazing sound. They aren't exactly small however, but this was a big room
I thought the foot print was small@@AEFisch
I’m in Alabama. Will definitely reach out to George.
He's great!
Those are beautiful
Thank you! Cheers!
Get a Rel T5 sub. It’s not so much about big bass but balance and a grounding of the sound. My Heresy IVs with that sub are spectacular with jazz, singer sing writer, you name it. The Heresy’s with a sub dialed in are special. You haven’t heard what that little 6 watt amp can really sound like until you hook up that T5. Have fun! It’s a great hobby. Enjoyed your video and yes I watched it in its entirety. 😂. Peace ✌️
I was JUST looking at REL subs yesterday lol. This must be a sign! Thanks for watching!
I used to have a pair of oiled oak Heresy 1.5’s and enjoyed them for a couple years. But then I found a pair of JBL L100’s and prefer red them for having that fullness that I was missing from the Heresy. Unfortunately, I decided to sell the Heresy in order fund brand new grills for the L100’s. I still miss the Klipsch from time to time. They had that attack and decay that I just love.
Awesome. I'm always tempted by the L100's but haven't pulled the trigger.
Probably like the HPM-100s I sold for the same reason
Changing the binding post is not an up grade. The original is almost direct wire. Now electricity has to pass through those new style wire mounts, it changes everything.
I've bought my last speaker's 4 or5 times now. So no, that will not be your last speaker purchase. What Klipsch does well, they actually do very very well. Besides having a pair of Tannoys, I have a pair of Klipsch RP 600 Mll and a pair Klipsch Heresy lV. For me, Klipsch speakers are great if you entertain or party often, where as the Tannoys are more for dedicated total silence eyes closed listening. Especially if you're listening to female jazz voices. Klipsch are great also for people like me who are older and hs e some slight hearing loss in the treble highs. Both spesker brands love tubes in the mix. The Klipsch speakers realy love to play loud, and they play loud very well. As the old Klipsch add used to say, " Klipsch, Pissing off your neighbors since 1946."
Thanks for watching and sharing!
My buddy has some his older brother bought him new in the late 70’s
Would love to know how they pair with the opposite ends of the extremes-Your McIntosh and your Cambridge AXA 25 and the differences you notice. Looking forward to more information on your records for sale.
I sold the AXA 25 awhile back to pay for another piece of gear to review on the channel, but will try to get the McIntosh hooked up soon!
Nice review. I would get a pr of vintage Forte lls. I have a pr 1994. I also have a pr of RF-7 IIIs
Didn't really like them at first but after they broke in I really love them now. They are something to behold and if you have the room😁
Awesome. Thanks for watching!
I have these exact speakers, Heresy 1.5’s with the same drivers. Pd $700. My SN’s 8428920 & 8427782. I agree with everything you say about these speakers. I changed the capacitors using a kit from Crites. I also added two ports per speaker and that added bass and improved the overall blend of the bass speaker and the squawker. I LOVE these. I also use low power tube amps, Rockville BluTube 25 watt, and also used the Reisong A10 8 watt. A good woodworking shop can add lamination that will make these look new for a relatively low cost. Enjoy.
Awesome! I added a small subwoofer this weekend and am trying to incorporate into my system properly, but overall I can't get enough of these speakers! Thanks for watching!
It is so exciting to find a pair of speakers that meet the needs of your music. It is never an "always" or "never" and you should have different "flavors" floating around to switch back and forth with. The same speakers you listen to a live jazz recording is not going to be the same set you watch the latest Roland Emmerich disaster flick with or listen to jungle-core-death-techno. BTW - the dings give them character. Maybe your next hobby will be woodworking and you can refinish them ;)
I would love to get into woodworking! I bought a circular saw during the holidays lol
Units with consecutive serial numbers don't always sound like a matched pair, so don't feel bad about that.
Awesome thank you
For me my h3s get sweater and sweater the more I listen to them. And find myself listening to everything, I mean they don’t do tracks like the prodigys poison justice but not many speaker can ! but play“there law” the 05 remaster, man now that’s something special through these speakers as is nayran. Faithless insomnia, kosheen all sound incredible, but play something like The internets “get away” or Lilly Moore and they are utterly magical. The texture and tonality they can produce is quite special.
They require a “full fat” amp something really fleshy to them justice . I don’t like the sound of them with NAD c320 for example, it’s too lean not enough current.
I drive mine with a sugden a21. I can’t be arsed with tubes. Partnered with a chord qutest as it has a class A output stage, a technics 1200gr, again because it’s really fleshy and a musical fidelity mx vynl phone stage oh and a nag mp150 cart.
Never had such fun with a hifi and i certainly can’t see me getting rid of it
I've finally found 'my' perfect speakers - System Audio Mantra 60.
Awesome! Thanks for watching!
84 in the first two digits in the serial number = 1984
As for 1 watt one meter = 96 dB
The early versions where called H-700
That makes sense
That's why I Like Vintage Wharfedale Linton 2's and KLH The Sensitivity Ratings are up there.
I would live those. I haven't seen them listed for less than thousands in NYC. You're lucky. New I know they're like 4 5 grand
Thank you and yeah the newly released IVs are over $3k!!!
I have a pair of the same vintage Heresy's,plus some empty Heresy cabinets. Mid 80's design on both. I built,and rebuilt both designs. The Woofers are inefficient ( Compared with earlier designs), and the plastic mid horn/ compression drivers sound horrible! Advice: pick up some K 700 metal horns / with EV 1823 drivers,and replace the woofers with vintage EV SP 12's,or EVM 12L's. You're going to be Amazed!
Awesome mods! Thanks for watching!
I have cornwalls and they and my Carlsson OA 51's are my last speakers.. Larsen speakers are similar to the OA51's.. same ortho acoustic principle
Awesome!
I had a pair of the ZU DW II. They say they are very divisive. I couldn't resell them fast enough.
Interesting! Thanks for sharing!
Can you recommend a CD player that would pair well with your setup? Thanks
I really like the Cambridge AXA35 or Denon DCD600 - I've upgraded to using an expensive CD transport and external DAC now, but those models always treated well at the start of CD player buying journey.
Thanks for the reply. What model did you say your Heresy speakers were. I must have missed that part. Thanks again!
How does the T20 drive it?
Does it sound good as any speakers with decent amp?
The class D amps drive them fine.
so i slide the herresy 2s arond on top of small towels,so far so good.
unreal i actually have basically both of those speaks in my room.buddy loand me his hklipch herrssy 2s so i could compare w zu dw 2 .i cant trally type about but the zus are like the other side of the same coin.i miss the other one when im with this one. grrat prob to have!
Your local furniture restoration shop can make them look great on the cheap.
I agree. Speakers are freaking stressful.
The worst, lol. But I guess that's what keeps the hobby interesting? Thanks for watching!
How much have they changed over the decades? I found a pair at goodwill but they’re the very first ones (H700).
And yeah every time I say “Klipsch heresy” it sounds like I have a lisp
Good question. I only have this pair with upgraded caps so without a true A/B sound comparison, I can’t say for sure.
How do they sound on your MC2505? Been considering getting some for my MC2105. Using JBL 530s right now with a powered sub.
Great question. I haven’t had a chance to hook them up to the 2505 yet while I’m working on this tube amp review but that will be my next pairing for sure!
@@ForeverAnalog Great, looking forward to hearing your thoughts.
i have the 2s i use a sub and its great
Awesome! I'm sure I'll add a sub at some point lol
In my opinon it would be worth it to seek out a used Harmon kardon or a Luxman integrated amp for those speakers to really shine.Try your local thrift store & or Good Will..just avoid crap like pioneer & Mid eighties sony receivers, Marantz?
I have a vintage HK unit and I'm sure I'll get around to installing it with these speakers!
Let me know? Thanks@@ForeverAnalog
if you like them now, try the Super Heresy mods!
Definitely on my to-do list!
Good Price, pretty cabinets don't make them sound better! Paired with your McIntosh amp, you won't want to stop playing Music :)
Agreed. Thank you!
How do you like you Vincent PHO-8 phono preamp?
I love it. I bought it used on Facebook Market for like $250 (I think it originally sells for $800). I have a video review on my channel if interested!
Class D amps?? Pure Heresey!!! Class A solid state amplifiers don't get along with Horn Speakers very well either! Tube Amps: Single Ended,Or Push/ Pull ,work Great! In my 30+ years of building speakers and swapping equipment,the only amplifier that brought the Best in Klipsch Heritage Speakers is a good Crown Power Amp! My Audiophile friends are cringing now! Lol! Seriously,CROWN!
I’ve yet to have a crown amp in my system but would like to hear how it would sound! Thanks for watching!
Please explain why would anyone take a speaker that naturally is on the bright and harsh side, and lacks in low end. Why point them up toward your ears, and decouple it from the floor for less bass. They are best flat on the floor close to the rear wall for more lows , and less treble , and they will then balance out , in the room , when turned up a little .
Those will probably be your forever speakers until you decide to upgrade to newer and/or bigger Klipsch speakers.
Yeah, the person selling them had just purchased a set of La Scalas which also had me drooling!
You didn’t specify exactly what you meant by stands. Original Klipsch stands for the Heresy were only to angle them back much as you’ve done (mine are Heresy 1 with factory stands). I’d suggest that before you jump into elevating them 18” or 2 feet or more that you test the idea first with something makeshift. You’ll be surprised at the loss of bass response. I tried putting mine on cinder blocks as an experiment and they sounded horrible. Probably most of the people recommending putting them on stands know little about Klipsch speakers and likely little about acoustics either. It sounds like a good idea at the outset abd may work well with other speakers but I think you’ll be happier with these remaining on the floor but with “low riser” type stands that still keep them coupled to the floor but angled back.
Yeah, I showed a photo of the stands I ordered which angle back like you describe. Thanks for watching!
@@ForeverAnalog I even watched your entire video but didn’t see the photo of the stands. Hmmm, probably had something to do with driving on a road trip while listening (not watching - well, occasional glimpse) to the video. I think you’ll be happy with that arrangement. Too much elevation changes their character dramatically. Some say then use a sub - but then I say what’s the point of having Klipsch then? I have an extremely long history with Klipsch speakers beginning from high school in the early 70s in my band classroom to getting them for several band programs where I taught band and orchestra to finally buying my own first Klipsch KG4s to La Scalas to eventually Klipschorns in a room added on specifically made for Klipschorns and music performance. Sadly had to sell the KHorns due to life circumstances changing and just recently got a pair of 1980 year Heresy 1.
Absolutely agree about using the low wedge stands, tried them up at 15 inches off the ground and the bass disappeared. As to the sub, I have one blended very subtly and love it. It just extends things in good ways for my tastes, I'd suggest to new folks at least trying it.
@@herosquadlivemusic4815 My cinder block stand experiment didn’t give me much incentive to raise them that high. However, I have heard some mention that fully enclosing the stand and making it fit the dimensions of the base of the speaker would help preserve some (maybe all?) of the bass response. I’m not planning to try that. However, I should post a link to an easy to do and reversible crossover mod I’ve heard about that lowers the midrange and tweeter output by about 3dB to match the woofer better. I’ve done it but I’m still evaluating and I might go back to the original crossover configuration. My room needs more of its hard surfaces covered to reduce some of the early reflections that make the treble seem brighter and less clear. After that I’ll have to re-evaluate the mod.
Just bought a pair from my local Goodwill store for 19.99, Got there 5 min after they were put out.....Good day
Amazing. Congrats!!!!
Maybe a small giveaway for early mailing list signups? :)
Dude where did you get that minor threat print!?!?
Nathan McKee. Look him up online!
Thank you
Sure the cabinet is original?
I'm pretty sure, at least I can't find any evidence of why they wouldn't be.
Oh. I think I saw the 4. Those are like 6 grand
I think the serial number is shown at 4:05 : 8240137
These are called Heresy because that's what Paul Klipsch called them after he designed them!
I think because he used as a center channel?
in a interveiw chris robinson black crowea quiped about (klipsch speaker muff)i laffed my ass off cause i think i get it. like the big furry klisch speaks?
Uhhhhh.....no. Never did like my Heresy 1.5's. Neither did my friends when they came over. Got tired of fussing around with them. Stands, no stands, room placement, subwoofer addition, yada yada yada. Sold them at a profit and got rid of the headache.
That’s what’s so fun about this hobby. These components can sound differently to all of us!
Nice but i would have to sell my house
No doubt, these are not the last speakers you will buy. I'll bet my house on it.
Naw. No way are these the last pair. I see Klipshorns in your future.
That would be awesome!
Those who say put your speakers 5, 15 or 30 feet from the rear wall are evidently not married. Or you’re rich, with a dedicated room.
Yeah we’re all doing the best we can lol
I have considered Klipsch loudspeakers but have heard that they are poorly designed. Not worth the money.
Thanks - well, what can I say, I really like mine and wouldn't have known until I tried them out lol!
It's a sin to tell alie.
😅😅😅5000€ / pair for the new heresy 4. Joking. for what? 350€ Chassis 100€;crossover. 50€;plywood. 😅😅
Yeah their prices on new models are always high lol
More and more vintage gear is OVERPRICED thse days...not worth it. More issues, more $$$ repairing. If you're lucky, it will be in very gud condition..then consider it.
Screw those idiots that have to rain on your parade by saying you paid too much. I live in Los Angeles, where these things in that shape would have been 8/900. If the veneer was nice they'd be over 1000
I think folks mean well, they just remember the days when you could stumble on a pair of these at a garage sale for $50, lol. Those days are long gone!
I bought a pair of Klipsch Heresy 1, those speakers were not good at all… Bad speakers.
Interesting. I've heard good and bad about those early models. I think they need some work done on the crossovers before they really shine?
@@ForeverAnalog The ones that i bought had already upgraded crossovers, i also had the Stock 70s crossovers and the speakers were not good. The tweeter horn is just a bad idea with its Plastic Diaphragm.
I'm looking at a cheap pair here in G______...mmm.