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The prophecy for Paris is to be dead . And for Helen is to be with many men . This 2 were destined to bring disaster wherever they are .Thanks for sharing this movie ❤
Fantastic movie. IMHO a better story than ""Troy"" . The personality of Helen is well pictured as a woman of those ages. Certainly to be a beautiful woman back then meant to be often raped in her lifespan, sometimes even in the street, as many ancient authors let on. So this movie is finally fair with Helen's history: she had no other fault than being a highly desirable woman for any men. By the way there are some minor flaws.... The woman raped on the altar was Cassandra, not Helen. And Theseus did not kidnap Helen but simply "took " her at the arena while she was exercising, all naked like all teenagers back then. And since Theseus was a reknown hero, (say like a pop star of the times) it was an honiur for her to receive his sexual attention. Warning, it wasn't an evil action, just an ordinary sexual activity of those ancient times.
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That's why, on his return home, his wife Clytemnestra and her lover Aegisthus killed him in the bath. Greek mythology is so interesting, I love it. So many flawed characters, both mortals and gods.
@@luizadoca210 No, you did not understand the tragedy. Pious to the Gods, who play with lives of mankind, for their sheer amusement, and men must entertain. Same tragedy for Odysseus, who glorified himself and mankind, rather then Gods, and was punished. Agamemnon did as was required of him by the Gods, and his daughter gave her self to the pyre, as the Gods demanded. This is very nuanced, as we can not view the Homeric tragedy in separation from Greek concept of piety, and the relationship between Gods and mankind. Same, is the tragedy of Achilles, and so forth. Indeed, in accordance to Greek tradition, the only purpose for existence of humanity, is entertainment of the Gods, the mortal world, being little more then theater. To that end, even the Greek Cities themselves, there designed to be a kind of a stage, so what the Gods may observe the residents.
The stories vary. Either Agamemnon sacrifices Iphigenia, or Artemis takes her away at the last moment and replaces her with an animal. In the versions where Artemis replaces Iphigenia, Artemis takes her to Tauris to become her priestess. Iphigenia does not make it to the transition of marriage, but as a priestess of Artemis and a cult heroine, she protects women as they make that transition. At the cult of Artemis at Brauron, a ritual called the “Brauronian arkteia” takes place, where girls would “play the bear” before they marry. Girls would participate in activities like running races and dancing. They also wore yellow robes that symbolize bearskins. They would then shed these robes to complete their transition.
@@madeleinereads the original Homer version, does not vary. The latter Roman version, does. It can not vary, as doing that, would defeat the purpose of the plot. Agamemnon must have paid a royal price, to satisfy his claim, and Zeus nor Hera would not have otherwise. Anything less, would dishonor the Gods, as Agamemnon was required to pay the price for the weakness of his brother, Menelaus, and would in turn dishonor both Zeus and Hera, who gave lordship to house Atreus, over all of Helenes. The variation, is a later artistic interpretation, what no longer regards Greek pantheon. (Many ppl don't know this now a day, but the Iliad, and to the lesser extent Odyssey, are type of ancient Greek scripture.. not just literature)
@@Dim-yz6wk Except with Agamemnon raping Helen. In The Iliad, it's actually Ajax the Less who raped Cassandra on Athena's altar then she was taken by Agamemnon to his home in Mycenae. And there's also the fact that Paris is already married to the mountain nymph Oenone.
@@Dim-yz6wk Except with Agamemnon raping Helen. In The Iliad, it's actually Ajax the Less who raped Cassandra on Athena's altar then she was taken by Agamemnon to his home in Mycenae. And there's also the detail that Paris is already married to the mountain nymph Oenone before he was chosen to judge the beauty contest and decides who gets the Apple of Discord.
Iphegenia, the favorite daughter of King Agamemnon, would have been of marriageable age, around 14 years then, when she was sacrificed in this story at 1:20:26.The goddess Artemis calls for the sacrifice as punishment because Agamemnon killed one of her stags in her sacred grove.
There was a 1977 film just about this part which was nominated at the oscars for best foreign film. The actress in the movie is about 13. It happened at Aulis in Greece according to legend which was a real greek harbour/Bay.
she herself choose manelous because he was most handsome among others, and she helped paris attack and rob greece in absence of king manelous because paris was more handsome than manelous... but later she started hating paris because he was a coward who hardly stepped outside wall or go on a war...
How is that the lesson? Helen didn't have the choice to wait for anyone, even in this narration. If you read the illiad you would also know that her participation isn't part of the story. She was promised by Aphrodite. She gets no choice in any of it. Not in her marriage to Menelaus not her being spirited away by Paris, as she was either taken by force or helped by Eros, as part of Aphrodite's promise. Hence why she's later found to have gone back to Sparta with Menelaus during the odyssey. This version is a romanticized version that even still, failed to really give Helen agency considering she was still most likely heavily influenced by Aphrodite.
@@Larchkty0324 The one to blame here was Zeus for not keeping it in his pants once again.. Had not been that he seduced Queen Leda, whom by the way was married to a king already, then she wouldn't have been pregnant with Helen and Pollux. Aaaaand also tasking a mortal, Prince Paris, with judging divine Goddesses on the intricate and subjective concept of beauty. Like bro why???
James Callis has played many amazing roles, but Menelaus is, in my opinion, his best. What an amazingly deep and complicated character! And how did he somehow make us sympathetic, in spite of all the awful things he does? Indeed, everyone, even Agamemnon, has a sympathetic side. Well, except Achilles. He's pretty one dimensional. The sad ass 2004 Troy had an obligatory Hollywood happy ending, with Helen and Paris surviving to start anew. Not this one. Virtually everyone is massacred, and Helen must follow a man she doesn't love. Even worse, he knows she doesn't love him, but takes her with him anyway because he can't stop loving her. The two vanish into oblivion, having survived the horror, but condemned to a life of loneliness. Heartbreaking and fantastic...especially for a TV miniseries!!
I dont believe that. If the husband is not deserve to the woman and the woman suffered becauae of that man. And the true love come just, you must fight for it. Thats love, thats true love you die for it to fight for it. Love and sacrifice in the name of love is the enormost love of all. That not many can do that. To measure love you both fight for it. If you are christian. Why Jesus died and suffer? He died for you people of chriatianity right? Because he loves you.. My goodness people be matured enough
Agamemnon chief commander of the Spartan forces in this movie by sacrificing his young doughter when the Olympian gods were trying to prevent the war wirh strog sea winds proved that Agamemnon's desire for his own personal ambitions over ruled reason. The Greek philosopher Plato wrote that the lowest element of evil is caused by desire overruling reason.
On Amazon prime there is a series called great Greek myths and it breaks down every Greek character from the beginning of time. The war started bc a golden apple. All of the Gods were having a feast and the God Eris was upset that they were not invited somewhere so she threw the golden apple on the table and said “this was for the fairest” and Herrera, Athena, and Aphrodite all stood up. They chose Paris to choose which one would receive the apple and he choose Aphrodite bc she gave him her golden cloak and promised him Helen. The others were angry and the Gods had all been at odds for a while and they actually fought the war against each other. It was such a good narration and there are 3 seasons of it that ends of course with the odyssey of Ulysses
The Fall of Troy was about GREED, not Helen. I liked the movie it was another point of view but it raced through parts and missed parts. Andromache who was the mother of the heir after Hector wasn't anywhere to be found. I liked Cassandra her interpretation was very good. I loved Helen, a Spartan woman following her own needs, being married off to a much older man must have been awful no wonder she left with Paris...
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Fact - Agamemnon survived the Trojan war. Helen lived the rest of her days out with Menelaus. On return home from Troy Clytemnestra does kill Agamemnon in the bath but not at Troy.
Clytemnestra wasn't alone her boyfriend helps her and her boyfriend is same person who killed Agamemnon and manelous father... agememnon explain this to odyssey when odyssey arrived at island of deads...
There are NO FACTS in this shit show that are remotely true to The Iliad other than the names of the characters and it takes place in Troy; they even call Achilles “Hercules” in one scene. Not that it mattered, that guy they cast came across like a CARTOON CHARACTER! Odysseus comes off as bumbling attorney who attended law school online but couldn’t pass the bar exam. Hector is a pussy and Paris is the badass who beats the shit out of him. This HORRIBLE production has NO resemblance to do with The Iliad aside from the names of the characters and it takes place in Troy! How did a BRILLIANT actor like Rufus Sewell ended up attached to this nonsense production?!? Doing scenes with Mr. Clean must have been torture for him, I swear I could see him cringing in many scenes, (good thing Agamemnon is an angry dude), I hope the $$$ was worth it!
After everything, i truly believed that in every story there is either justice or a happy ending. Watching this is for educational purposes but after the 3 movies that my teacher assigned to watch, i can say that I WANT MOREEE ❣️
This is my favorite version of the tale. It tells a great story and the cast is wonderful. Rufus Sewell, Stellan Skarsgard, Matthew Marsden, Emilia Fox, John Rhys Davies, Jim Carter....
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All the kingdoms of the earth during a certain time "sacrificed their children to heathen Gods. Even Israel and Juda when their kings worshipped heathen Gods !! Herod, Ahab etc. did it!! These kings married heathen woman and adapted to their religions to gain favor!!
My favorite poem, the “Iliad”, by Homer. Thanks for posting this mini series. Love that the ex-Bond Girl, D’Abo, and Rhys-Davies, the stunning supporting actor well known for appearing in epic movies, are portrayed in it.
You have read The Iliad and you LIKED THIS? You’re not offended by the way the butchered this brilliant piece of literature until the only thing similar to the The Iliad is the names of the characters?!? I’m pretty sure Homer is rolling in his grave!
@@Aspasia2929 I usually never respond to comments that i leave, but to yours, I shall. It is free for all works of art to be interpreted by the people who indulge in them, and this is no different. If you’d like to know about another twist of the Iliad, then I suggest you read “The Firebrand” by Marion Zimmer Bradley, which i thoroughly enjoyed devouring multiple times. Once again, as the old adage goes, beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder. I respect your abhorrence to this movie, but my comment, if you read it again, was simply identifying my favorite poem, and thanking the person for posting the mini series. I am always grateful when someone shares anything with everyone. I was also enchanted that D’Abo and Rhys-Davis had parts in it, because I recognized them, but especially enthralled about Rhys-Davis, as he has done so much in his career, but rarely gets any attention at all. If I allow myself to become indignant and easily offended by little things in life, such as this movie, I could never survive this world we exist in. As it is, I choose serene happiness and deep gratitude for all I get. I wish you much warm blessings and bright happiness always.
Exactly my words . I never liked that Paris died she returned to Menelaous . Also that Paris probably after figuring out he was adopted he never saw his step dad again . Ifigenia s death horrible too . Priam s and Hecuba s death terrible and how Paris appeared at the end sad . Also Theseus death sad
Thank you for uploading this. Troy (2004) brought me here. Excellent miniseries. Sienna Guillory is no Diane Kruger but she played Helen well. Rufus Sewell should have got a Emmy nomination for his portrayal of the cruel conqueror Agememnon.
The one and only thing I remember from this mini-series is the scene where Clytemnestra jumps into the bath and is just wailing on her husband screaming, 'My daughter! My daughter!' as she stabs him over and over again. I was like, 'Hell yeah, kill him! Kill him!' No mercy.
War is waged by men who seek power, wealth and eternal life. It is humanity that pays the price for the rich men's games. Always has been always will be.
One movie for the memory. It may not follow the poem in every way possible but it is far more enticing than the troy movie that should have been renamed to “brad p… err… achille’s muscles for 2 hours straight”.
Well it's quite a Translation of the Story apparently taken down by the Greek Philosophers. But who really Know's how it all happened? As for this Movies Version? I'M Not Overly Convinced it was Correct in Many Ways or in the Translation of the Event's that took place in far Off Troy. During the Ten Year's of the War & Troy's Eventual Destruction once the Trojan Horse 🐴🐴 was taken into the City. Now mulling it Over, and just Mentally comparing it to The Film TROY, with Brad Pitt, & Sean Bean and it's Stellar Cast, Direct by Mr Wolfgang Petersen. My POV is that Thier Film was More Complete about the Actual Siege, the Sacking, & the Capture of Troy. The Epic Single Fights n Battles between the Men Opposing Each Other during the Long War. The Story as Homer, wrote it, Was So Much more than just the Act of Getting Helen Back for King Menelaus anyways?. No the War was So many Other widespread Issue's of Politics amongst Conflicting, Rival Nation's? That the Excuse of Helen being Taken, or Willing leaving by Herself with Paris of TROY. That was just the Spark the Greek's Used too Start the Whole Ordeal, anyways. In Closing this Film was Pretty Decent, the Cast was Exceptional in Some Choice's, and Poor in Other's such as Helen's Actress. She didn't Impress Me an Awful Lot in Her Over all Portrall of Helen. So that's what I'm Thinking 🤔🤔 of it? That Helen of Troy was, A Three Star's ✨✨✨ Rating, where as TROY was a Solid Four Stars ✨✨ ✨✨ in My ahh Opinion. Forgive Me if I Offended anyone 😜🙂 Out there? But this is Only My POV I'm saying or even trying to Express to You's All Out there. Thank You for Sharing and wanting Our Responses by the Way. 🙏🙏🙏.
Dude, I've been dupe by the Brad Pitt's Troy! It was great fight and all but the story is totally different! This is the original. And to be honest, Hollywood doesn't need expensive CGI, this is good enough and enjoyable.
All of these comments about watching this for educational purposes surprises me, just read the Iliad translated by Robert Fagles, it is the best translation in English you will find. He also translated the Odyssey, which is my favorite book in the world. Helen is in the Odyssey and its after Troy. She talks about Aphrodite causing her to fall for Paris and act like a whore, its very funny. The Odyssey is for women and the Iliad is for men, IMO. Also in the movies they never show how the Gods are influencing the story. Especially in battle, Aphrodite shows up and takes Paris away during battle. You must read the book.
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The whole movie is honestly just ridiculous and inaccurate with all histories written at the time. And the comments just compliment it 'good movie', like wtf?
In Greek Mythology, it is hard to tell which out-debauches the other, humans or the multiple gods in Greek Mythology. Interestingly, the Hebrew faith, and eventually the Christian faith arrives on this scene with a "one" God who commands humans to be more like the sinless God of the Bible and the prophets that proclaim this entirely different religion.
Soo??? People have independence to believe in watver faith and culture they come from.....It's not hard when you are searching for a moral of the story and message then the characters
@@nityathedoremon7128 Faith is built from hardships. New faiths are often different from established faiths. It is humanity's urge to make sense of hardships. It is also true that the development of organized faiths take a long time, last a long time, and fade away after a long time. You mistake my comment for something more than it was. I observed that "singular" God faiths arose out of this plethora of Gods and Godesses. Humans will never be completely godless. So what we know about the past and faith, will be added to. Unless we kill each other off first.
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I don't think you can beat actually reading Homer and other relevant texts. Still it's a commendable attempt to bring action to life.
What book do you recommend then? I love reading.
@Mercy-b2q well, perhaps Homers Iliad and Odyssey to start with. My favourite translator is Alexander Pope.
The prophecy for Paris is to be dead . And for Helen is to be with many men . This 2 were destined to bring disaster wherever they are .Thanks for sharing this movie ❤
Fantastic movie. IMHO a better story than ""Troy"" . The personality of Helen is well pictured as a woman of those ages. Certainly to be a beautiful woman back then meant to be often raped in her lifespan, sometimes even in the street, as many ancient authors let on. So this movie is finally fair with Helen's history: she had no other fault than being a highly desirable woman for any men. By the way there are some minor flaws.... The woman raped on the altar was Cassandra, not Helen. And Theseus did not kidnap Helen but simply "took " her at the arena while she was exercising, all naked like all teenagers back then. And since Theseus was a reknown hero, (say like a pop star of the times) it was an honiur for her to receive his sexual attention. Warning, it wasn't an evil action, just an ordinary sexual activity of those ancient times.
@@roccobilly2973But in the movie it is Agamemnon who rapes Helen when Troy was taken or is it different in the book?
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My heart broken when he sacrificed his own daughter for power...this is what is still happening now...people will do anything for fame and power....😢😢
A tyrant👎
That's why, on his return home, his wife Clytemnestra and her lover Aegisthus killed him in the bath. Greek mythology is so interesting, I love it. So many flawed characters, both mortals and gods.
@@luizadoca210 No, you did not understand the tragedy. Pious to the Gods, who play with lives of mankind, for their sheer amusement, and men must entertain. Same tragedy for Odysseus, who glorified himself and mankind, rather then Gods, and was punished. Agamemnon did as was required of him by the Gods, and his daughter gave her self to the pyre, as the Gods demanded. This is very nuanced, as we can not view the Homeric tragedy in separation from Greek concept of piety, and the relationship between Gods and mankind. Same, is the tragedy of Achilles, and so forth. Indeed, in accordance to Greek tradition, the only purpose for existence of humanity, is entertainment of the Gods, the mortal world, being little more then theater. To that end, even the Greek Cities themselves, there designed to be a kind of a stage, so what the Gods may observe the residents.
The stories vary. Either Agamemnon sacrifices Iphigenia, or Artemis takes her away at the last moment and replaces her with an animal. In the versions where Artemis replaces Iphigenia, Artemis takes her to Tauris to become her priestess. Iphigenia does not make it to the transition of marriage, but as a priestess of Artemis and a cult heroine, she protects women as they make that transition. At the cult of Artemis at Brauron, a ritual called the “Brauronian arkteia” takes place, where girls would “play the bear” before they marry. Girls would participate in activities like running races and dancing. They also wore yellow robes that symbolize bearskins. They would then shed these robes to complete their transition.
@@madeleinereads the original Homer version, does not vary. The latter Roman version, does. It can not vary, as doing that, would defeat the purpose of the plot. Agamemnon must have paid a royal price, to satisfy his claim, and Zeus nor Hera would not have otherwise. Anything less, would dishonor the Gods, as Agamemnon was required to pay the price for the weakness of his brother, Menelaus, and would in turn dishonor both Zeus and Hera, who gave lordship to house Atreus, over all of Helenes. The variation, is a later artistic interpretation, what no longer regards Greek pantheon. (Many ppl don't know this now a day, but the Iliad, and to the lesser extent Odyssey, are type of ancient Greek scripture.. not just literature)
I believe this movie is more historically accurate than Troy (2004)
Absolutely is!
@@Dim-yz6wk Except with Agamemnon raping Helen. In The Iliad, it's actually Ajax the Less who raped Cassandra on Athena's altar then she was taken by Agamemnon to his home in Mycenae. And there's also the fact that Paris is already married to the mountain nymph Oenone.
@@Dim-yz6wk Except with Agamemnon raping Helen. In The Iliad, it's actually Ajax the Less who raped Cassandra on Athena's altar then she was taken by Agamemnon to his home in Mycenae. And there's also the detail that Paris is already married to the mountain nymph Oenone before he was chosen to judge the beauty contest and decides who gets the Apple of Discord.
@@darkmagician2521So there were two people who abused Cassandra?
@@gabrielaohiggins8995 I believe it's only Ajax who abused Cassandra.
Iphegenia, the favorite daughter of King Agamemnon, would have been of marriageable age, around 14 years then, when she was sacrificed in this story at 1:20:26.The goddess Artemis calls for the sacrifice as punishment because Agamemnon killed one of her stags in her sacred grove.
There was a 1977 film just about this part which was nominated at the oscars for best foreign film. The actress in the movie is about 13. It happened at Aulis in Greece according to legend which was a real greek harbour/Bay.
I'm so glad there are others who know and love the ancient Classics. There is hope for humanity yet 😍🥰
2023 and still watching Helen of troy my favorite movie. ❤️this movie
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Lesson of this story.. Wait for the right men...and dont take others wife...SAD HEART BREAKING ENDING...
she herself choose manelous because he was most handsome among others, and she helped paris attack and rob greece in absence of king manelous because paris was more handsome than manelous... but later she started hating paris because he was a coward who hardly stepped outside wall or go on a war...
How is that the lesson? Helen didn't have the choice to wait for anyone, even in this narration. If you read the illiad you would also know that her participation isn't part of the story. She was promised by Aphrodite. She gets no choice in any of it. Not in her marriage to Menelaus not her being spirited away by Paris, as she was either taken by force or helped by Eros, as part of Aphrodite's promise. Hence why she's later found to have gone back to Sparta with Menelaus during the odyssey.
This version is a romanticized version that even still, failed to really give Helen agency considering she was still most likely heavily influenced by Aphrodite.
@@Larchkty0324 The one to blame here was Zeus for not keeping it in his pants once again.. Had not been that he seduced Queen Leda, whom by the way was married to a king already, then she wouldn't have been pregnant with Helen and Pollux. Aaaaand also tasking a mortal, Prince Paris, with judging divine Goddesses on the intricate and subjective concept of beauty. Like bro why???
right 'men', or man?
James Callis has played many amazing roles, but Menelaus is, in my opinion, his best. What an amazingly deep and complicated character! And how did he somehow make us sympathetic, in spite of all the awful things he does?
Indeed, everyone, even Agamemnon, has a sympathetic side.
Well, except Achilles. He's pretty one dimensional.
The sad ass 2004 Troy had an obligatory Hollywood happy ending, with Helen and Paris surviving to start anew.
Not this one. Virtually everyone is massacred, and Helen must follow a man she doesn't love. Even worse, he knows she doesn't love him, but takes her with him anyway because he can't stop loving her.
The two vanish into oblivion, having survived the horror, but condemned to a life of loneliness.
Heartbreaking and fantastic...especially for a TV miniseries!!
I thought that the Actress: Sienna Gullory was really good In her character portrayal of 'Helen of Troy' In the 'Helen of Troy' TV-Movies (2003) !
The true moral of the story is "don't grab or coviet. Another's wife" 😊
I dont believe that. If the husband is not deserve to the woman and the woman suffered becauae of that man. And the true love come just, you must fight for it. Thats love, thats true love you die for it to fight for it. Love and sacrifice in the name of love is the enormost love of all. That not many can do that. To measure love you both fight for it. If you are christian. Why Jesus died and suffer? He died for you people of chriatianity right? Because he loves you..
My goodness people be matured enough
Yeah!!! Hands off of somebody's girlfriend, fiance, Wife and mother!!! Same for females!!!! 😼
@@kangkang1560 Jesus also said not to grab someone else's wife. Adultery is not tolerated in any religion.😂
you know tge truth story? the truth story is she trying to seduced me.. that the truth story.. UNDERSTOOD..
IT WAS NEVER ABOUT HELEN ITS ABOUT GREED POWER!
Agamemnon chief commander of the Spartan forces in this movie by sacrificing his young doughter when the Olympian gods were trying to prevent the war wirh strog sea winds proved that Agamemnon's desire for his own personal ambitions over ruled reason. The Greek philosopher Plato wrote that the lowest element of evil is caused by desire overruling reason.
On Amazon prime there is a series called great Greek myths and it breaks down every Greek character from the beginning of time. The war started bc a golden apple. All of the Gods were having a feast and the God Eris was upset that they were not invited somewhere so she threw the golden apple on the table and said “this was for the fairest” and Herrera, Athena, and Aphrodite all stood up. They chose Paris to choose which one would receive the apple and he choose Aphrodite bc she gave him her golden cloak and promised him Helen. The others were angry and the Gods had all been at odds for a while and they actually fought the war against each other. It was such a good narration and there are 3 seasons of it that ends of course with the odyssey of Ulysses
Agamemnon was commander of the Mycenean forces.
His brother was king of Sparta.
The Fall of Troy was about GREED, not Helen. I liked the movie it was another point of view but it raced through parts and missed parts. Andromache who was the mother of the heir after Hector wasn't anywhere to be found. I liked Cassandra her interpretation was very good. I loved Helen, a Spartan woman following her own needs, being married off to a much older man must have been awful no wonder she left with Paris...
JOHN 3:16 FOR GOD SO LIVED THE WORLD, THAT HE GAVE HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON, THAT WHOSOEVER BELIEVETH IN HIM SHOULD NOT PERISH, BUT HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE.
Amen 🙏, best comment .
Did you know Jesus means hail Zeus? 😂
@@julieflower9068 AND AmenRa is an Egyptian God 🤦♀️
@@jadefox5285 Backing you up.
@@jadefox5285 Yes indeed, insane isn't it how there's all these clues yet so many are blind to it.
IT WAS ALWAYS ABOUT THE PORT, NOTHING TO DO WITH HELEN THE GREEKS WANTED POWER IN RICHES!
Better than the big Hollywood version and mostly English actors 😊😊😊
Fact - Agamemnon survived the Trojan war. Helen lived the rest of her days out with Menelaus. On return home from Troy Clytemnestra does kill Agamemnon in the bath but not at Troy.
helen outlived him and her stepsons kicked her out and she was hanged ro death by a widow of a man killed in the troy wars
Clytemnestra wasn't alone her boyfriend helps her and her boyfriend is same person who killed Agamemnon and manelous father... agememnon explain this to odyssey when odyssey arrived at island of deads...
@@wufflerdance9481was she hanged? i thought she was stoned to death...
@@wufflerdance9481 but when odyssey son visited manelous in search of his father helen was with him... and she was happy with him
There are NO FACTS in this shit show that are remotely true to The Iliad other than the names of the characters and it takes place in Troy; they even call Achilles “Hercules” in one scene. Not that it mattered, that guy they cast came across like a CARTOON CHARACTER! Odysseus comes off as bumbling attorney who attended law school online but couldn’t pass the bar exam. Hector is a pussy and Paris is the badass who beats the shit out of him. This HORRIBLE production has NO resemblance to do with The Iliad aside from the names of the characters and it takes place in Troy! How did a BRILLIANT actor like Rufus Sewell ended up attached to this nonsense production?!? Doing scenes with Mr. Clean must have been torture for him, I swear I could see him cringing in many scenes, (good thing Agamemnon is an angry dude), I hope the $$$ was worth it!
After everything, i truly believed that in every story there is either justice or a happy ending. Watching this is for educational purposes but after the 3 movies that my teacher assigned to watch, i can say that I WANT MOREEE ❣️
What are the other 2 movies you were assigned to watch?
For me, the ending is just the beginning of a much more intense love story ..
This is my favorite version of the tale. It tells a great story and the cast is wonderful. Rufus Sewell, Stellan Skarsgard, Matthew Marsden, Emilia Fox, John Rhys Davies, Jim Carter....
I know!!! I can't believe the cast. It's fantastic.
The guy playing Achilles is more who I would imagine Ajax to be
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder because to me that supposed young actress is just above average. And nothing I would consider as a beauty
So who do you consider to be a beauty then? To me this actress is very beautiful
@@darlingbaby2303 easy answer. Rarity, and that means any mixed race... That does not look like a copy of whatever vast majority of the tribe they come from not what you're looking for because you asked who. Not sorry to have disappointed 😞
@@Jacstaoisitio 😍🥰
You are right, though not even above average for me but just average.
They are just referring to the beauty of the supposed helen, not this actress
I agree. Never go after another man's wife. Ask me, I know.
All the kingdoms of the earth during a certain time "sacrificed their children to heathen Gods. Even Israel and Juda when their kings worshipped heathen Gods !! Herod, Ahab etc. did it!! These kings married heathen woman and adapted to their religions to gain favor!!
It led to Jehovah allowing the destruction of Jerusalem.
The smile on Agamemnon's face when Hector was fatally wounded is beyond epic
My favorite poem, the “Iliad”, by Homer. Thanks for posting this mini series. Love that the ex-Bond Girl, D’Abo, and Rhys-Davies, the stunning supporting actor well known for appearing in epic movies, are portrayed in it.
You have read The Iliad and you LIKED THIS? You’re not offended by the way the butchered this brilliant piece of literature until the only thing similar to the The Iliad is the names of the characters?!? I’m pretty sure Homer is rolling in his grave!
@@Aspasia2929 I usually never respond to comments that i leave, but to yours, I shall. It is free for all works of art to be interpreted by the people who indulge in them, and this is no different. If you’d like to know about another twist of the Iliad, then I suggest you read “The Firebrand” by Marion Zimmer Bradley, which i thoroughly enjoyed devouring multiple times. Once again, as the old adage goes, beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder. I respect your abhorrence to this movie, but my comment, if you read it again, was simply identifying my favorite poem, and thanking the person for posting the mini series. I am always grateful when someone shares anything with everyone. I was also enchanted that D’Abo and Rhys-Davis had parts in it, because I recognized them, but especially enthralled about Rhys-Davis, as he has done so much in his career, but rarely gets any attention at all.
If I allow myself to become indignant and easily offended by little things in life, such as this movie, I could never survive this world we exist in. As it is, I choose serene happiness and deep gratitude for all I get. I wish you much warm blessings and bright happiness always.
Cassandra was right afterall😢
As soon as I saw the King sacrifice his daughter, I knew this wasn't about Helen.
Very sad story...very heart breaking ending.,
Exactly my words . I never liked that Paris died she returned to Menelaous . Also that Paris probably after figuring out he was adopted he never saw his step dad again . Ifigenia s death horrible too . Priam s and Hecuba s death terrible and how Paris appeared at the end sad . Also Theseus death sad
Thank you for uploading this. Troy (2004) brought me here. Excellent miniseries. Sienna Guillory is no Diane Kruger but she played Helen well. Rufus Sewell should have got a Emmy nomination for his portrayal of the cruel conqueror Agememnon.
The one and only thing I remember from this mini-series is the scene where Clytemnestra jumps into the bath and is just wailing on her husband screaming, 'My daughter! My daughter!' as she stabs him over and over again. I was like, 'Hell yeah, kill him! Kill him!' No mercy.
who asked
@@kirknoble25how rude.
@@mycatsnameiskaren8253 im sorry
@@kirknoble25 I asked
I have never seen such a movie before. Wow 😳
Is this love??? I ask.
What hey love is sacrifice. Wonderful casts... speechless 😶
Paris didn't love Troy enough to sacrificed himself.
I read this story from the book of the Greek heroes in the early 70s when I was in school is a nice movie ❤
War is waged by men who seek power, wealth and eternal life. It is humanity that pays the price for the rich men's games. Always has been always will be.
Watching Helen of Troy now in the Philippines, Nov.30, 2024.
Thanks for sharing your wonderful video film ❤
Paris and Helen both are Cursed by their parents 😢😢
Easy on the eyes actors😊 thanks
My heart is paining i shouldn't watched till the end 💔 😔 😭 😢
There's a thin line between right and wrong where only knowledge and wisdom will determine the difference.
Nice movie I've ever seen the story of love of my Paris and Helen
This makes Troy look like a documentary
One movie for the memory. It may not follow the poem in every way possible but it is far more enticing than the troy movie that should have been renamed to “brad p… err… achille’s muscles for 2 hours straight”.
The unique beauty of Sienna Guillory
That's the fruits of true love must ready to sacrifice what will come.
For me, the best part of this movie was seeing Helen's beautiful body. The king should have listened to his on advice, to burn it.
Agamemnon looked great in his red bathing robe at the end 😭😭😭😍😂🥰
❤Amazing movie ❤nyc ♥️ I am from India ❤naam Sagar ❤ Hollywood my favorite ♥️👍🙏
Beautiful women 😍 have started many wars... Good movie but also sad 😭 how could a Daddy kill his prescious little innocent girl. Tragic and selfish 😔
Beautiful movie i enjoyed watching it thanks❤
Great movie❤️
Thank you so much for this wonderful and extraordinary movie.
Mini series*
Helen's of Troy it my favorite movie
Well it's quite a Translation of the Story apparently taken down by the Greek Philosophers. But who really Know's how it all happened? As for this Movies Version? I'M Not Overly Convinced it was Correct in Many Ways or in the Translation of the Event's that took place in far Off Troy. During the Ten Year's of the War & Troy's Eventual Destruction once the Trojan Horse 🐴🐴 was taken into the City.
Now mulling it Over, and just Mentally comparing it to The Film TROY, with Brad Pitt, & Sean Bean and it's Stellar Cast, Direct by Mr Wolfgang Petersen. My POV is that Thier Film was More Complete about the Actual Siege, the Sacking, & the Capture of Troy. The Epic Single Fights n Battles between the Men Opposing Each Other during the Long War.
The Story as Homer, wrote it, Was So Much more than just the Act of Getting Helen Back for King Menelaus anyways?. No the War was So many Other widespread Issue's of Politics amongst Conflicting, Rival Nation's? That the Excuse of Helen being Taken, or Willing leaving by Herself with Paris of TROY. That was just the Spark the Greek's Used too Start the Whole Ordeal, anyways.
In Closing this Film was Pretty Decent, the Cast was Exceptional in Some Choice's, and Poor in Other's such as Helen's Actress. She didn't Impress Me an Awful Lot in Her Over all Portrall of Helen. So that's what I'm Thinking 🤔🤔 of it? That Helen of Troy was, A Three Star's ✨✨✨ Rating, where as TROY was a Solid Four Stars ✨✨ ✨✨ in My ahh Opinion. Forgive Me if I Offended anyone 😜🙂 Out there? But this is Only My POV I'm saying or even trying to Express to You's All Out there. Thank You for Sharing and wanting Our Responses by the Way. 🙏🙏🙏.
Hey, thanks for your extended comment! It was interesting to know your opinion about this movie. 😉
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Thanks you tube. This cause we watch that's like awesome series. Thanks again
What a thrill the quest for a beautiful princess to be after one is a rare gem😂😂😂
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First time watching Paris movies it's exactly movies
Dude, I've been dupe by the Brad Pitt's Troy! It was great fight and all but the story is totally different! This is the original. And to be honest, Hollywood doesn't need expensive CGI, this is good enough and enjoyable.
Interesting movie 🍿
Wow wonderful movie 🍿🇧🇩🇧🇩🇧🇩🇧🇩
For one silly woman, a war and massacre of innocent civilians😢
She was just the excuse.
I thought I just read this story in a book. Thank you so much
🥺 I cannot understand why heartbreaking 💔 movies like this one are produced 🫣❣️🥲
Great Movie
And then Rome was born
lies post roman
Trojan war one of the most famous stories in greek mytholgy
Sorry for my english
All of these comments about watching this for educational purposes surprises me, just read the Iliad translated by Robert Fagles, it is the best translation in English you will find. He also translated the Odyssey, which is my favorite book in the world. Helen is in the Odyssey and its after Troy. She talks about Aphrodite causing her to fall for Paris and act like a whore, its very funny. The Odyssey is for women and the Iliad is for men, IMO. Also in the movies they never show how the Gods are influencing the story. Especially in battle, Aphrodite shows up and takes Paris away during battle. You must read the book.
The gods’ influence is the only part they seemed to get right in Troy Fall of a City
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Sim.Troia pagou caro pela paixão de Páris.
Thanks for posting
welcome!
Thank you for sharing this remarkable movie.
Thank you for making filming 🎥 on the Maltese island 🏝
If only Casandra had prophecied "If the horse enters, troy will burn". Where was she when needed?
Beautiful movie. Moral - lust and anger destroyed Agamemnon. Need love your brethren. Sacrificing his daughter - cruelest part of Greek history.
Well acted movie
Spell binding!!
Sienna Guillory from Resident Evil: Apocalypse (2004)
Great movie, great cast
Is this the best they can do? This is the most beautiful virl they can find to be Helen?
Brilliant film
Hi Stephanie ❤❤❤❤❤
I dont like this... My heart is bleeding 💔
May we never experience this kind of tragedy and disaster again...Amen.
How long must the People suffer, for the want of the Kings. When even the Good Kings fall, to the wishes (greed) of the Ruling Classes.
In the end, there's no victory in an evil plot of war. Someone killed his own daughter for power and fame and ended up being knifed by his wife.
this film proved that love always make destruction . paris should have chosen victory or power .
Whichever he chose would still be his distruction
Why do they mention Byzantium in this movie when it wasn’t even founded yet?
The whole movie is honestly just ridiculous and inaccurate with all histories written at the time. And the comments just compliment it 'good movie', like wtf?
Good point. This story should be set in the late bronze age.
i fell in love with achilies character when i saw brad pitt's in 2012 prbably... new troy
In Greek Mythology, it is hard to tell which out-debauches the other, humans or the multiple gods in Greek Mythology. Interestingly, the Hebrew faith, and eventually the Christian faith arrives on this scene with a "one" God who commands humans to be more like the sinless God of the Bible and the prophets that proclaim this entirely different religion.
Soo??? People have independence to believe in watver faith and culture they come from.....It's not hard when you are searching for a moral of the story and message then the characters
@@nityathedoremon7128 Faith is built from hardships. New faiths are often different from established faiths. It is humanity's urge to make sense of hardships. It is also true that the development of organized faiths take a long time, last a long time, and fade away after a long time. You mistake my comment for something more than it was. I observed that "singular" God faiths arose out of this plethora of Gods and Godesses. Humans will never be completely godless. So what we know about the past and faith, will be added to. Unless we kill each other off first.
Rufus Sewell is fiiiiine.🔥
They should have returned Helen. 😂
This is extremely incredible movie
I love a happy ending! 🤪
A facticecious movie..just enjoy
It was lesson in my 5th class😊😊
The 1956 movie was in my opinion much better !
The 50s version is not perfect but has good production values.
This is what is called true love 😢
art museum shows paris, the apple gift, visitation by the goddesses, venus, Aphrodite, athena
Just one legend ... in reallty ... never can happend ..
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Watching it for educational reasons ❤