New Vegas and Good Springs do Well, and Freeside becomes a haven for refugees and outcasts, safer than the wastes. With this ending, saving ED-E, solar power is regained by the followers of the Apocalypse, were they can generate energy, they can rebuild civilization. NOVAC does fairly well for itself after being rebuilt and reinforced. With this ending, the tribes move out into the northwest and rebuild a new stronger civilization too. The Old Money lizard people, the tunnellers, they still would pose a problem for all of humanity, and would need neutralized by powerful robotics, like the upgraded, rocket launching securitrons. That would make a great Sequel: Fallout: New Vegas, Rise of the Tunnellers. :-)
aperture AI#2020 Fallout 4 was such a missed opportunity. It would have been awesome just to say “fuck off I don’t want what your selling” and slam the door into the salesmen’s face only for the credits to roll because you died in the atomic blast shortly after.
Um... Listen, there’s no problem preferring Fallout New Vegas, I do too, but can you not straight up lie? In Fallout 4, you can potentially leave any of the four major factions- Institute, Minutemen, Railroad, and Eastern Brotherhood- running Boston. Fallout 4 has a lot of problems, but there’s no shortage of factions to side with.
JurzGarz Kid, you're missing the point. Fallout 4 railroads you, there are no multiple ways to complete quests, your options are typically "Yes", "Yes", "No(Yes)", and "Sarcastic Yes". The game is a huge step down in quality from FNV, which is inexcusable because THE REAL fallout devs were given tight deadlines and a shit old engine to make FNV, while Brainlet Bugthesderp had many more years, more money, a newer engine, and the desire to "One-up" FNV in the SHALLOWEST WAYS POSSIBLE, which is how we got shit like the Minutemen, the "Better NCR", and BULLSHIT like the Institute.
thats the point though. you shouldn't take away the gamer's decision to make dumb decisions... those are part of the joy. For example, in blood money you could read something you're not supposed to and the credits start a rolling. I saw the warning and immediately ignored it because of games with hand holding like FO4 and laughed my ass off upon the end scene.
This is just one of the many reasons why New Vegas is a far better role playing game. It honestly amazes me they learned nothing from this for Fallout 4.
Because Bethesda fires most of their employees between games, and the few that stay have yet to make a game that has sold poorly or been poorly received and don't have any reason to alter course or improve. Until Bethesda games make less money, it will continue to be worse than New Vegas.
I would say that Mr. House ending is the best one. NCR wants to return to the old way but lacks the direction; being a corrupt bureaucracy. The Legion creating Peace through force but stripping Humanity of freedom and reverting us to a pre-technological society. The Independant ending being... Well the wild card, Vegas becomes a state run by a dictator through good or bad. *The House ending... making Vegas independant, blocking the NCR and Caesar's Legion from reaching each other. Protecting Vegas and its people and through House's aspirations eventually restarting the high-technological age of mankind.
Mr. House's ending is a dictatorship lead by an immortal, unbeatable man from centuries ago dedicated to keeping the Vegas exactly as it was. Mr. House's ending ensures a complete lack of change, forever.
+V339, The NCR is a dictatorship by the president's family line who hasn't been voted out for 40 years. Ceasar's Legion is a dictatorship by a man who wants to rule the World. Independant Vegas is a dictatorship by a random person who strolls along and goes on a quest for vengence. Both current in-game content and cut content of New Vegas suggest that House want's to reform Humanity into what it was with him at the top. In the REPCONN building during the tour it says they where working with RobCo (funder House) to explore the solar system, in a dialogue with House he say's that in 20 years he can restart the high-technological development mankind once had, 50 years and he will have people in orbit. The Making of Fallout New Vegas - 11:25 minutes in shows this, available on UA-cam (I would have provived a link but that Always results in a spam mark). In cut dialogue of New Vegas it is said by House that he intends to build ships to send people of Earth to other Worlds, can probably find the page by searching Google: Fallout space travel. Or similar. My Point is, as you say; no matter which ending there isn't really a true good ending but with House, Humanity has a chance.
At the start of the game easy Pete said I dont know how to use dynamite so I came back at lvl 50 with Esther and showed him that I improved my explosives skill I KiILLED MYSELF ON ACCIDENT 😎
Because of there was no NCR military personnel to help freeside, things just got a little chaotic. Yes indeed there were alot of people getting hurt but that's what the struggle of being a leader is all about.
I think it would have been a lot better with the narrator saying something like "After the courier consolidated his hold over New Vegas, he used his access to immense wealth and resources to fund the followers who would then on provide excellent health care and education to all." if you helped the followers during your play through.
yeah but the problem with the Wild card ending is you have no idea what the player thinks he would do after winning. You and I might use the new wealth to fund the followers and probably make alliances with other surrounding groups, try to draft a constitution, etc. but some people might just become dictators.
Courier: And so the Courier who had cheated death in the cemetery outside Goodsprings cheated death once again and the mojave wasteland was forever- Driver Nephi: Fucked!
TmanSnaps Jealousy. Obsidian is better and smarter than Bugthesderp, who just want explosions and mindless setpieces and season pass money-grabs. REMEMBER WHEN FAR HARBOR RIPPED OFF A FREE FNV MOD'S PLOTLINE FOR THE ROBOBRAIN QUEST?
If Obsidian is still the same company back in 2010 then yes. However this current Obsidian is a weaker and sub-standard Obsidian. It ain't gonna work like New Vegas. Hire the writers who wrote NV. Maybe even hire Tim Cain. Fallout games by Bethesda are good. Just a totally subpar in writing.
I take back these words. Now that Obsidian has Tim Cain and has the funding from Microsoft, i guess its about damn time that we would be seeing Fallout in space.
I always thought the "Yes Man" was really creepy when I was younger and looking back on it I still believe that. The fact that he has little to no programming restrictions, the fact that he will do what ever you say no matter if he wants to or not. And over all the overall over joyed attitude that this robot displays is way to erie. And the times when he gets serious is very strange and unerving the way he changes his tone drastically like at 4:05. Plus the thrilling music in the background doesn't help. And the appearance of him is kinda creepy and unsettling too, a big robot with big arms and a TV screen for a cartoonish head just standing there in a dark unlit room for his entire operating life. He even says that he has probably never left that room followed by a creepy "but I'm not complaining". Is it just me or is Yes Man just a generally creepy character. Plus the way he says that he can't die and that even after you kill that securitron it won't matter as he will just download himself on a new one.
Its because Yes Man, given how he has a passive aggressive personality and decides to go behind the Courier's back to upgrade himself into becoming more assertive, he will eventually turn on the Courier.
@@Spongebrain97 no actual the when he said he will be more assertive it means he only answer's to you the courier, the producers confirmed it saying that what that meant and accidentally messed up on the dialogue cuz they were running out of time
@@JakobatHeart Exactly, maybe they will learn how to defend their own territory for once. Stop annexing territory you cant defend idiots and stop making so many enemeies at once.
"If you feel that war matters that much, perhaps you will see differently in time" - Courier, Fallout NV. *Sarcastic* "Hey dumbass, wars over, get out of Hoover Dam" - Fallout 4's sorry excuse of a 'diverse' dialogue system.
it could be argued that both responses are valid and it's just reflective of their individual personalities. Maybe Fallout 4 is meant to have a more concrete narrative for the sake of presentation. But that assumes that Bethesda's creative vision isn't rudimentary and bankrupt which it very much is :(
Th3 UnFuNNy I think you're forgetting that the courier has a army of upgraded securitrons, can become allies with the boomers, who have a fucking bomber plane, the enclave remmants, the Mojave brotherhood, and father ellijah, who can control the cloud and invincible holograms, which could be a solution to wipe out the tunnlers since they can't be harmed. Not to mention that they can have a giant laser coming from a satellite in space, you know, the thing that destroyed liberty prime in broken steel!
@@radopon Jesus fucking Christ, dude. What possessed you to write this out? I'll explain how cringey you are, by being cringey right back: Nobody: Absolutely nobody: You: Omaiway monshindairoo! xDDDDD!!!11
great ending, wanting to try it again to get this ending, yknow have another go at fonv, but I don't want to waste 800,000 hours of my life (again), hahaha. thanks for uploading this video, you made my day a little bit better. the Cass endings and rex endings usually make me cry, esp. with the music :' ) Obsidian made such an epic game, this fallout new Vegas is so much better than crummy fallout 4's story.
Lilly's ending is bittersweet sorta since none of it are good. Whether she completely forgets about her grandchildren or going on a futile search for them are the best ones if she decides to take half-dose of her meds.
Edward French yeah, the writers admitted that they made a slight mistake in the wording. They never intended for Yes Man to betray the Courier, his line merely meant that he would stop taking orders from any random guy and only do what the courier says.
Same late, I was gonna go with independent, but I went with house because I thought it would be the best, cause he has been controlling the strip for about 200 years
"Chaos became uncertainty, then acceptance, with minimal loss of loss" Coming from someone that used to side with NCR, this is what makes this ending better in my view. The NCR is bloated and corrupt, prepared to tax you for what little you have. The Legion is archaic and brutal, and only a few centuries behind NCR in terms of history. They'll end up the same. And House is a over-charismatic individual who lacks the Mojave experience to make the right choices. You are Vegas's best hope, the one that would support the Followers, unite the tribes, and rebuild society, with the safety of the securitrons. No power should control everything without opposition, which is what the other groups would do. Vegas may be unstable, but societies like Goodsprings, the common masses, will build themselves up with a guiding hand. Independence and cooperative anarchy.
As I said to another commentor- that’s not anarchy, that’s autocracy. The Courier is running the show with an unbeatable, completely loyal army of robots to squash anyone who opposes them. Maybe you’ll be a benevolent autocrat, but you’re still an autocrat.
JurzGarz I disagree. The point of the Wild Card ending is that it's yours to create. I might be a benevolent autocract that makes alliances with various factions and distributes House's wealth and power. Or perhaps I enforce a anti NCR and legion approach, but leave everyone else alone. Your actions, Karma, and personal views play into it. The other factions have more direct results.
Same, I didn't really like the idea that it was either anarchy or I just ran it like house did. I wanted to send some securitrons to freeside to back up the kings and start distributing money there from the strip
@@jamesduffy7549 You send Securitrons throughout all of Vegas I think, the Riots are just bad enough to need notable parts of the Army to crush. Freeside becomes prosperous if the Kings made a truce with the NCR.
The thing that I love most about the Independent ending is that it doesn't necessarily default to the Mojave being reduced to a state of anarchy. You _can_ make an Independent Mojave a livable state as long you put in the work, proving that the NCR isn't the only "good" way of bringing civilization Make sure the Securitron army is at full power to maintain the peace, destroy all Raider gangs (including the Brotherhood), and protect good factions like The Kings and The Followers, and you'll have an Indepedent Mojave that's perfectly fine on its own
>Reprogram my personality >To be more assertive >ASSERTIVE >Robot that has access to a mass mainframe of data, tech, AND ARMY OF SUPER DEADLY ROBOTS >ALSO CANNOT BE DESTROYED Lol sure yes man do whatev, what could possibly go wrong!
Usually I'd agree but the writer in this case has stated all that really means is that he won't serve just anyone that walks by like he does now. There won't be *another* courier or Benny to find Yes Man and take advantage of him.
Math Mick I think the best ending would be an NCR but the worst is also probobly NCR. Legion is worst most of the time and anarchy and house are in the high middle tear to bad tear.
Well my first ending was the independent one, then houses and in my personal opinion it’s better the houses one because its like a memorial to the pre war society, and its a step to rebuild the humanity.
Arkham Knight Caesar ending with "good karma" is actually not a bad ending (not bad at all)... The first time I've ended with the Legion was to get the trophies, and working with then made me feel really bad and stressed (I just picked a save slot that I had a neutral rep with the legion), but then I noticed that you could chose the Legion and avoid doing their atrocities, and the ending is actually not bad... At all.
Only a good ending depending on the choices you make elsewhere. Black Mountain: Repair Rhonda, or kill Tabitha (so more mutants head to Jacobstown). Boomers: Complete Volare!. Raul: Settles in New Vegas, head canon says he takes over New Vegas Steel. Brotherhood: Destroyed to prevent aggression against travelers, or change Helios One from full region to Archimedes II. Veronica: Joins followers. Fiends: Destroyed. Arcade: Stays in Freeside upon completing For Auld Lang Syne. Goodsprings: Don't kill the town. Cass: Peaceful resolution to strengthen Mojave Outpost supply line, letting Alice and Gloria be killed by the Gun Runners is optional. Khans: Forge their own legacy, with the Vault 19 Powder Gangers joining them. Jacobstown: Pass speech check with Keene, but fail/ignore science check with Doctor Henry. Only ending that mentions trade prosperity. Lily: Take meds to keep her in Jacobstown. Kings: Ease tensions with the NCR. Rex: Rey's brain implanted. Cyber puppy ending with Roxie might be cute, or imply they create monsters. Misfits: Properly train. Novac: Don't sabotage rockets. Boone: Security/caravan guard for travelers in the Mojave. Powder Gangers: Dead. Primm: Meyers or Slim as sheriff. ED-E: Followers get data, stays by Courier's side. Rangers: Chief Hanlon is not exposed, returns home and humiliates Kimball and Oliver in his successful campaign for senator. Remnants: Survive, fight for NCR. Legion: Caesar alive, and Lanius convinced of Caesar's foolishness in ever attacking the Mojave. Dry Wells nuked, Cottonwood Cove destroyed by radioactive barrels to prevent the crumbling empire from ever easily returning. Securitrons: Upgraded. Dead Money: Christine, Dean (hopefully to sing in Vegas, not rip off the casinos), and God survive. Honest Hearts: Zion is not evacuted or polluted, but you stay Joshua's hand. Follows stays with his tribe, and Walking isn't bitter or resentful toward Daniel. Happy Trails profits. Old World: Good karma ending, everyone alive. Lonesome: Nuke just the Legion, and keep Ulysses alive to safeguard the Divide and keep the Marked Men and Tunnelers contained. Nuking the NCR would only kill the profitability of New Vegas. Stopping the launch would prevent ED-E2 from protecting people in the Wasteland.
Chompy Said I mostly agree however nuking the legion is a bad idea. With them gone nothing is to stop the NCR from annexing the Mojave again once it becomes more stable. With both factions around you create a stalemate. Personally I prefer Mr house but I still did most of the things you said and respect your opinion nonetheless.
@The Nova renaissance kill Vulpes when you meet him at Nipton, kill the legate and that just leaves Caesar and Lucius, which leaves the legion with a leader who will die very soon by his condition. Lucius is too old to be much of a fighter anymore and he isn't that smart nor is he an outstanding leader either but he's in okay health, he also won't slaughter everyone like the legate would, so that leaves less casualties because the legates dead but leaves the legion just alive enough to distract the NCR from attacking vegas.
@The Nova renaissance huh I never thought of it that way and as long as no one find out the courier nuked the I-15 that could work very peacefully really well ok I'll do that in my next independent playthrough
If I could augment the ending, especially with DLC involved. 1. I would bequeath the abandoned BOS bunker to Veronica, who would use the notes from Elijah and the Sierra Madre technology to better the lives of the folks in the Mojave, especially if she tried to join the followers. 2. Like with Mr. House’s barter ending, I would have some Securitrons help protect the trade routes between NCR and Vegas, and give them a good deal on the chunk of Hoover Dam’s electric power being sent to California. Basically ensuring NCR doesn’t walk out of this whole thing empty-handed. 3. I’d let the followers have Vault 3, after clearing out the fiends; to use as another facility. 4. The Brotherhood would be allowed to remain, but I would make it clear as day to McNamara that they’re only still alive because I allow it. If they harass people in the Mojave, It’ll be made clear to them that they’ll be wiped out to the last man with ease. 5. Securitrons will monitor the paths through the Divide, to prevent any tunnelers or Marked Men from threatening the Mojave.
idk if the securitrons would be enough for the divide. Especially considering that as off the ending they don't have a few of making new securitrons. So any lost securitrons puts them at risk of a legion attack.
You can get them to back you at the dam if you do arcades quest. You also get one, or two, depending on dialogue with arcade sets of good enclave armour
If there's one thing we learned from The Lonesome Road, it's that it takes one to make or break a nation. Ulysses even goes on about how history has proven this. I think that whatever faction the courier chooses can eventually become something more if the courier chooses to do so. (Extremely late)
There is never a good or bad ending in Fallout... none of it matters as stated in the motto of the series : Like in the old world. People live and people die. War, war never changes.
As much as I like fallout that little motto or whatever you want to call it always pissed me off. Even within the Fallout universe, war has changed allot, constantly evolving. I think what they mean to say is, Humanity's propensity for violence towards itself is a constant. But that's not what they say. And that pisses me off.
I thought it was a standard dialogue the way I have it is keeping a good rep with the strip, NCR, the followers and the BoS basically have good rep with the good factions
Cohen Bowman The enclave literally kill for credit. They have a. Robot for there president....and a unstable human leader. God bless the Brotherhood of Steel!
Space Core The BOS are braindead wannabe-knights who prance about the wastes, stealing tech people could use to rebuild civilization. Fuck em, all hail House!
Getting the enclave to join you is one of the outcomes of Arcade's side quest. Easiest way is to be idolised by the Followers, take him to the Fort, Caesar (talk then leave him & agree Caesar's a lost cause), Crashed Vertibird, the Van Graff's, complete That Lucky old Sun with him or tour the Boomers Museum with him. Passing any Speech checks he throws at you along the way, until he finally talks to you about his past. Taking EDE with you also helps kick start his trust in talking to you
Ironically, this ending will probably help the NCR get their shit together in the long run. Oliver is dead, leaving his position up for the merciless Colonel Moore or the calm and collected Hsu which means no more butting heads with Hanlon and the rangers. Kimball will probably lose reelection if he wasn’t killed. Treaty with the BoS is a good thing too. More focus on the problems at home than rapid unstable expansion
True. However I wouldn't be surprised if Brahmin Barons somehow find a way to rig the election to get an incompetent leader that supports them. Also the truce was temporary and probably only with the Mojave chapter. So the brotherhood will still harass the NCR.
For an independent playthrough it is way better to spare the general so that he gets blamed for the disastrous campaign. Better to be hated and an outcast than being a martyr and dead. Also it is better to kill Caesar, everyone at the fort and the legate. This removes any known leaders that could replace Caesar (though Joshua Graham says that he hasn't met anyone who could truly replace Caesar anyway). Just to be sure you could also nuke the Legion which would significantly delay a potential third battle of Hoover dam. Also arguably the extra ending where the gun runners kill the remnants of the Mojave Crimson Caravan. The NCR supply lines are still strengthen but they lose some talent and the gun runners will be less likely to work with the Crimson Caravan. Making the NCR supply lines possibly worse and stop a chance of the NCR having the supply lines for a future invasion. This ending is reaches btw if you find evidence against the Crimson Caravan and the Van Graffs but also taking the job from McLafferty to steal from the gun runners. This is what the ending slide says: "Both the Van Graffs and Alice McLafferty were removed from their post in the East. During their trek West, however, their caravan was wiped out by raiders using advanced weaponry and military tactics. No cargo was taken. When questioned, the Gun Runners denied any involvement, claiming they would have no... public motivation for such an attack." Although I guess this could have consequences for decreased trade to the Mojave.
I honestly feel like this is the best ending. And despite them saying the followers struggled to provide basic needs for Freeside, they said on the Kings slide that it was stable. Besides that I can't see any other settlements doing worse. Plus Goodsprings is like: *S t o n k s* So really I feel like the best Independent Vegas ending is the best ending as a whole. Edit: also we can end up saying that Independent Vegas would be like the Commonwealth Provisional Government where all the settlements come together and vote on matters to help each other out. And sorta like the Minutemen and settlement supply lines.
It would be even better than the CPG because the courier can be idolised by every town in the Mojave. This stops one of the main reasons the CPG never took off. Because they could never agree on how it would work.
"this is the worst ending lol" I mean the courier could technically replace house in 2 ways 1. he uses the whole computer life support system or 2. he becomes a cyborg therefore, he will live an extremely long time while retaining his physical capabilities.
This is the best ending only if the courier has the wisdom to become the leader the Mojave needs. If not, then it could possibly be one of the worst endings.
thing about independant ending is that it can really be good or bad or even middle ground. Really depends on the personality of your courier. If you're couriers a scumbag dumbass with no army or allies then you're fucked. If you're courier is a genuis, has allys and an army and an idea of how to build for the future then I say its good. Thats what I love about the yes man ending. It can go in so many different directions and its really up to you on how you want it to go.
This ending would have been better if as part of the Wild Card path you couldn't use all the securitrons. Like, House has the big Robot army, NCR has the big NCR army, Legion has the big Legion army and Independence would mean less securitrons. To make up for this, the wild card ending could only occur if you kept all factions alive and then as an additional quest, rally all the independent factions into one unified fighting force. I don't know, with all the resentment of the NCR, fear of the Legion and suspicion of House having all the factions rally behind the Courier to escape this tyranny would have made at least some sense.
Rex used to belong to Caeser. The legionary who owns Lupa says he had a cybernetic dog then if you give Rex Lupas brain the ending slide confirms he was Caesar's dog.
My favourite ending - especially since I discard that stupid slide about anarchy! Seriously, why would there be more anarchy with a Courier who solved everybodies problems and made friends with all the major and minor factions? Not to mention that the courier can call in even more robots (in the form of robo-scorpions!) from Big Mountain and probably go and salvage security holograms and vending machines from the Sierra Madre! As for training troops (the securitrons are nice, but why not recruit some meatbags to support them and/or command them!) that can be arranged (Boon can do that, alongside the Enclave Remnant! With the BoS being the heavy hitters, the boomers providing artillery and air force!)...seriously, if House can keep this madhouse stable, so can a silver tongued courier! Hell, maybe even some of the supermutants would be willing to back you up, they make for very good soldiers (carrying .50 cals as hand-weapons!) :)
Well, the slogan "No Gods, No Masters" is historically closely linked to anarchism, a school of thought which emerged from the anti-authoritarian wing of the socialist workers' movement. Basically, what has been described hits the core of the actual anarchist concept: Mutual aid between self-organized people, united in common resistance against every power. And since anarchists have always had a bit of difficulty when it comes to the question of more complex organization given their negative attitude towards hierarchy, their projects have always contained a more or less pronounced chaotic element, which, although a frequent topic of internal dispute, is generally accepted as unavoidable. Therefore the ending (both versions) pretty much matches its real existing template in this respect.
Honestly, Mr. House would be my choice. The Legion would fail as soon as Caesar died, and the NCR is a clusterfuck of a democracy, whereas Mr. House is the most experienced leader you could find anywhere. And he isn't interested in politics, making his leadership all about results, which is something all of us can respect.
Unqualified Ursine He's not a leader at all, he has no experience leading. He's only interesting in building his fortune, not progression of anyone else. The legion could still survive Caesars death with little loss under the right circumstances but still would not be effective in the long run and would have security just for the sake of security in the area it controls. The NCR is too weak as well. Independent is the best option. That way, if you kill Caesar and Lanius the Legion would die off very shortly after, House wouldn't be a threat and neither would the NCR if the Courier used the collapsing Legion to his/her advantage to gain control over the area with little resistance and possibly peacefully. People that support house are people that just fall for his lies and are too ignorant to see through him. He just uses charisma to fool gullible players that he is intelligent, which causes people to follow him even further. He's just manipulative.
Djrocks Gaming what? How can you say someone who was the chairman of one of the largest robotics corporations and someone who kept Vegas alive and running for over 200 years is not a leader? He's the most experienced. Besides, fortune's not what he's after: power is. And in that regard, all others are. He's the only one that can rebuild the Mojave because he's the only one that knows how. And I don't think you know anything about his backstory, otherwise you wouldn't say he's not intelligent. That's just not true lmao Besides, ignorance has nothing to do with this lmao ad hominem much? And the Legion would never survive Caesar's death. Or rather, it wouldn't survive the inevitable infighting that would come after his death. Tyrantic and cult of personality-based regimes never do, as they never have.
When I first played New Vegas, I didn't know you could settle a truce between the NCR and the BoS. I automatically assumed that the BoS was at constant war with the NCR (even since the events at Helios One). Whenever House assigned me to destroy the bunker, I fast-traveled to Hidden Valley and enabled the self-destruction device. I failed 2 quests, and now I regret blowing them up.
NCR: Modern day American government, all pros and cons included Caesar’s Legion: Imperialism/Social Darwinism Mr. House: Capitalism/Elitism Yes Man: Anarchism
@@jackashmore The Lyons Pride in FO3 were the exception not the rule. They were essentially a splinter group who went against the Brotherhood's original mandate in favor of white knighting for wastelanders and this led to a civil war within the group. The BOS are mostly just self-interested raiders who hoard technology for themselves at the expense of everyone else. That's literally how they've been depicted in every mainline Fallout game except 3. The Outcast faction in FO3 was much closer to the spirit of the original Brotherhood than the Lyons Pride were.
There's a version of this ending where you use barter and speech to convince General Oliver you can be a good trader with the NCR right? Does anyone know a video where I can see that version?
I like this ending however I can't get the idea of giving so much power to a single robot (Yes Man), Mr. House is a genius but hes only worried about Vegas and NCR is your traditional govern. I don't like playing evil so Legion is definitely not an option to me.
Guilherme Souza Mr House isn't a genius, he's a sociopath. He convinces people to believe he's intelligent through his speech. This causes people to follow him, as people are more likely to follow those they believe to be intelligent and become oblivious to what he's actually saying. He's not actually intelligent, he's just charismatic if the player is gullible enough and manipulates people to get what he wants. Sociopaths and people that are charismatic tend to seem intelligent but truly aren't, it's just their speech that makes them appear to be so.
Lord GabeN Oh, do you thought that I thought that he was manipulating his FUCKING ROBOTS rather than a reasonably conclusion of him manipulating other people... Okay.
Djrocks Gaming you didn't read that properly. He means that house built Rob Co and all the securitrons, and it takes more than being a manipulator to do that
To be fair this is my most viewed video by an overwhelming margin. I'm intending to create a contrasting video in due time but actually getting Ganon enslaved while Caesar is dead ends up being pretty tough to do due to bugs.
Yes Man Route in a nutshell
Almost Everyone: _sad_
Goodsprings: *STONKS*
Lmao fr
Hey! They deserve it, Doc is a saint.
Not when I murdered them all too
New Vegas and Good Springs do Well, and Freeside becomes a haven for refugees and outcasts, safer than the wastes.
With this ending, saving ED-E, solar power is regained by the followers of the Apocalypse, were they can generate energy, they can rebuild civilization. NOVAC does fairly well for itself after being rebuilt and reinforced. With this ending, the tribes move out into the northwest and rebuild a new stronger civilization too. The Old Money lizard people, the tunnellers, they still would pose a problem for all of humanity, and would need neutralized by powerful robotics, like the upgraded, rocket launching securitrons.
That would make a great Sequel:
Fallout: New Vegas, Rise of the Tunnellers. :-)
@@domquixote2780 True
Fallout NV: You can choose to join 3 factions or go wild card ruling New Vegas. Fallout 4: You can't even say no to a salesman.
aperture AI#2020 Fallout 4 was such a missed opportunity. It would have been awesome just to say “fuck off I don’t want what your selling” and slam the door into the salesmen’s face only for the credits to roll because you died in the atomic blast shortly after.
Um... Listen, there’s no problem preferring Fallout New Vegas, I do too, but can you not straight up lie? In Fallout 4, you can potentially leave any of the four major factions- Institute, Minutemen, Railroad, and Eastern Brotherhood- running Boston. Fallout 4 has a lot of problems, but there’s no shortage of factions to side with.
JurzGarz Kid, you're missing the point. Fallout 4 railroads you, there are no multiple ways to complete quests, your options are typically "Yes", "Yes", "No(Yes)", and "Sarcastic Yes". The game is a huge step down in quality from FNV, which is inexcusable because THE REAL fallout devs were given tight deadlines and a shit old engine to make FNV, while Brainlet Bugthesderp had many more years, more money, a newer engine, and the desire to "One-up" FNV in the SHALLOWEST WAYS POSSIBLE, which is how we got shit like the Minutemen, the "Better NCR", and BULLSHIT like the Institute.
aperture AI#2020 tbf you’d die or turn feral if you were actually able to refuse
thats the point though. you shouldn't take away the gamer's decision to make dumb decisions... those are part of the joy. For example, in blood money you could read something you're not supposed to and the credits start a rolling. I saw the warning and immediately ignored it because of games with hand holding like FO4 and laughed my ass off upon the end scene.
the legion has the burning man.... but the ncr has the wet man...
Shλn Covered in bandages to hide his wrinkly skin.
Armed with a... uh...
Um...
Whet stone
I survived because the water inside slammed heavier than the waves around me.
I fell down into that giant dam...but the water drowned on and on.
The thing about new vegas is that there's no clear best ending, it's what you think is the best ending. It's not like fallout 3.
This is just one of the many reasons why New Vegas is a far better role playing game.
It honestly amazes me they learned nothing from this for Fallout 4.
Because Bethesda fires most of their employees between games, and the few that stay have yet to make a game that has sold poorly or been poorly received and don't have any reason to alter course or improve.
Until Bethesda games make less money, it will continue to be worse than New Vegas.
I would say that Mr. House ending is the best one. NCR wants to return to the old way but lacks the direction; being a corrupt bureaucracy. The Legion creating Peace through force but stripping Humanity of freedom and reverting us to a pre-technological society. The Independant ending being... Well the wild card, Vegas becomes a state run by a dictator through good or bad. *The House ending... making Vegas independant, blocking the NCR and Caesar's Legion from reaching each other. Protecting Vegas and its people and through House's aspirations eventually restarting the high-technological age of mankind.
Mr. House's ending is a dictatorship lead by an immortal, unbeatable man from centuries ago dedicated to keeping the Vegas exactly as it was.
Mr. House's ending ensures a complete lack of change, forever.
+V339, The NCR is a dictatorship by the president's family line who hasn't been voted out for 40 years. Ceasar's Legion is a dictatorship by a man who wants to rule the World. Independant Vegas is a dictatorship by a random person who strolls along and goes on a quest for vengence. Both current in-game content and cut content of New Vegas suggest that House want's to reform Humanity into what it was with him at the top. In the REPCONN building during the tour it says they where working with RobCo (funder House) to explore the solar system, in a dialogue with House he say's that in 20 years he can restart the high-technological development mankind once had, 50 years and he will have people in orbit. The Making of Fallout New Vegas - 11:25 minutes in shows this, available on UA-cam (I would have provived a link but that Always results in a spam mark). In cut dialogue of New Vegas it is said by House that he intends to build ships to send people of Earth to other Worlds, can probably find the page by searching Google: Fallout space travel. Or similar. My Point is, as you say; no matter which ending there isn't really a true good ending but with House, Humanity has a chance.
I never knew you could throw him from the dam. That scream is so good.
Anyone who doesn’t pick Wild Card ending is getting thrown off the dam.
@@Remembrancer Mr House for life
@@Remembrancer most people i talk to about new vegas seem to remember them going wild card yes man ending first time playthrough.
@@OutdoorBlues It's because this is the most neutral and correct ending, in the end, the factions are controles by bad people
@@ayuwokiyYou're the same tho
29:40 Plot Twist - You were a securitron this whole time.
Oh damn
jejo it was rigged from the start
The arms were a lie
When he said "This room is my entire world I don't think ever left it" I really felt that
“Save your speeches, we will take hoover dam and move forward until our feet crush the setting sun beneath them” Damm what a line
At the start of the game easy Pete said I dont know how to use dynamite so I came back at lvl 50 with Esther and showed him that I improved my explosives skill
I KiILLED MYSELF ON ACCIDENT 😎
E(B)ig gamer stylee 😎😎💩👆👌👌💦💦
What an absolute mad lad
Easy Pete is the true and final antagonist of Fallout: New Vegas.
Yea... I kinda murdered easy pete in the first hour for his hat 😂😂😢
@@joeydouglass2478
POV : You're just a dude in the Mojave and you hear a courrier say "Ooooo cool hat !"
I don't think they intended the stable independent ending to trigger *that* followers of the apocalypse ending
Because of there was no NCR military personnel to help freeside, things just got a little chaotic. Yes indeed there were alot of people getting hurt but that's what the struggle of being a leader is all about.
I think it would have been a lot better with the narrator saying something like "After the courier consolidated his hold over New Vegas, he used his access to immense wealth and resources to fund the followers who would then on provide excellent health care and education to all." if you helped the followers during your play through.
yeah but the problem with the Wild card ending is you have no idea what the player thinks he would do after winning. You and I might use the new wealth to fund the followers and probably make alliances with other surrounding groups, try to draft a constitution, etc. but some people might just become dictators.
Jared LaFreniere I think there just aren't meant to be perfect endings.
No ending is perfect...
Courier: And so the Courier who had cheated death in the cemetery outside Goodsprings cheated death once again and the mojave wasteland was forever-
Driver Nephi: Fucked!
Get
DAMMIT WHY WON’T BETHESDA LET OBSIDIAN WORK ON ANOTHER FALLOUT
TmanSnaps Jealousy. Obsidian is better and smarter than Bugthesderp, who just want explosions and mindless setpieces and season pass money-grabs. REMEMBER WHEN FAR HARBOR RIPPED OFF A FREE FNV MOD'S PLOTLINE FOR THE ROBOBRAIN QUEST?
You do realise that Obsidian isn't the same company as it was 8 years ago and that Bethesda own the franchise don't you?
If Obsidian is still the same company back in 2010 then yes.
However this current Obsidian is a weaker and sub-standard Obsidian. It ain't gonna work like New Vegas.
Hire the writers who wrote NV. Maybe even hire Tim Cain.
Fallout games by Bethesda are good. Just a totally subpar in writing.
Obsidian is making a new IP that looks amazing. It's names The Outer World's for anyone who doesn't know.
I take back these words.
Now that Obsidian has Tim Cain and has the funding from Microsoft, i guess its about damn time that we would be seeing Fallout in space.
I always thought the "Yes Man" was really creepy when I was younger and looking back on it I still believe that. The fact that he has little to no programming restrictions, the fact that he will do what ever you say no matter if he wants to or not. And over all the overall over joyed attitude that this robot displays is way to erie. And the times when he gets serious is very strange and unerving the way he changes his tone drastically like at 4:05. Plus the thrilling music in the background doesn't help. And the appearance of him is kinda creepy and unsettling too, a big robot with big arms and a TV screen for a cartoonish head just standing there in a dark unlit room for his entire operating life. He even says that he has probably never left that room followed by a creepy "but I'm not complaining". Is it just me or is Yes Man just a generally creepy character. Plus the way he says that he can't die and that even after you kill that securitron it won't matter as he will just download himself on a new one.
Yeah that voice acting is amazing
Sounds like a creepypasta episode
but scariest thing is the final scene,look closer he starts to think and act freely
Its because Yes Man, given how he has a passive aggressive personality and decides to go behind the Courier's back to upgrade himself into becoming more assertive, he will eventually turn on the Courier.
@@Spongebrain97 no actual the when he said he will be more assertive it means he only answer's to you the courier, the producers confirmed it saying that what that meant and accidentally messed up on the dialogue cuz they were running out of time
This ending the wet dream of a power hungry control freak like myself.
are we power hungry? or merely the voice of the people? one could call such a spirit revolutionary..
You mean the other endings? Good/Neutral Independent is not for people like you.
Good Karma House/Independence endings are the best endings in the game
@@JakobatHeart Exactly, maybe they will learn how to defend their own territory for once. Stop annexing territory you cant defend idiots and stop making so many enemeies at once.
@@JakobatHeart me too and just love the idea me a mailman defeated 2 nations lol
"If you feel that war matters that much, perhaps you will see differently in time" - Courier, Fallout NV.
*Sarcastic* "Hey dumbass, wars over, get out of Hoover Dam" - Fallout 4's sorry excuse of a 'diverse' dialogue system.
tbh that sarcastic option is kinda funny tho, gotta admit
it could be argued that both responses are valid and it's just reflective of their individual personalities. Maybe Fallout 4 is meant to have a more concrete narrative for the sake of presentation.
But that assumes that Bethesda's creative vision isn't rudimentary and bankrupt which it very much is :(
Th3 UnFuNNy I think you're forgetting that the courier has a army of upgraded securitrons, can become allies with the boomers, who have a fucking bomber plane, the enclave remmants, the Mojave brotherhood, and father ellijah, who can control the cloud and invincible holograms, which could be a solution to wipe out the tunnlers since they can't be harmed. Not to mention that they can have a giant laser coming from a satellite in space, you know, the thing that destroyed liberty prime in broken steel!
Jonas Busano I love fallout 4 but that is unfortunately entirely true. The dialogue system is a joke compared to other fallout games.
Fallout 4 really dropped the ball on its main story and "decisions". SIDE NOTE: Is it me, or does Benny not like any damn body?
I know new vegas doesn't really do cut scenes but I wish we could have witnessed caesar seeing the securitrons roll out of the bunker
Im assuming it was hard for him to see em anyway. On account of him hanging out over the torches beside his throne, chopped up and naked.
I wish we could have seen the reaction of the NCR to seeing the Enclave come back to either help them or fight them.
Lmao "please throw the General off the dam"
@@radopon Jesus fucking Christ, dude. What possessed you to write this out? I'll explain how cringey you are, by being cringey right back:
Nobody:
Absolutely nobody:
You: Omaiway monshindairoo! xDDDDD!!!11
@@radopon Za warudo, am I right? Hahaahahahahhahahaahahhahahahahahahahahhaahhahahahahahhahahahahahahahaahhahahahahaahhahahahahahahahhahaha
great ending, wanting to try it again to get this ending, yknow have another go at fonv, but I don't want to waste 800,000 hours of my life (again), hahaha. thanks for uploading this video, you made my day a little bit better. the Cass endings and rex endings usually make me cry, esp. with the music :' ) Obsidian made such an epic game, this fallout new Vegas is so much better than crummy fallout 4's story.
I must agree
The Calm Man I wish I could wipe NV from my memory to re experience it again.
Lilly's ending is bittersweet sorta since none of it are good. Whether she completely forgets about her grandchildren or going on a futile search for them are the best ones if she decides to take half-dose of her meds.
Anyone else think that Yes Man is going to betray the Courier in the end?
There shouldve been an option to change Yes Mans programing if your science is high enough.
The devs said that Yes Man wouldn't do that and his "ascertiveness" upgrade was to ensure nobody else but the Courier could influence him.
Edward French yeah, the writers admitted that they made a slight mistake in the wording. They never intended for Yes Man to betray the Courier, his line merely meant that he would stop taking orders from any random guy and only do what the courier says.
Marko Krstic can you give me the source?
Thx
Irsyad Adit unfortunately I'm on my phone right now and it would be a complete hassle. Just google it, you're bound to find it.
TV on wheels 😩😳
L112976 Da Noob 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Autism
Spiffy Pop are you threatening me
Alexander Morozov no
Spiffy Pop ok
The republic of Dave should be the new NCR
The republic of dave is more of a dictatorship
Floodposting for Galactic Dominance doesn't get it
In Dave we trust.
this is the ending that im currently going for.
Same late, I was gonna go with independent, but I went with house because I thought it would be the best, cause he has been controlling the strip for about 200 years
I chose Mr. House
"Chaos became uncertainty, then acceptance, with minimal loss of loss"
Coming from someone that used to side with NCR, this is what makes this ending better in my view. The NCR is bloated and corrupt, prepared to tax you for what little you have. The Legion is archaic and brutal, and only a few centuries behind NCR in terms of history. They'll end up the same. And House is a over-charismatic individual who lacks the Mojave experience to make the right choices.
You are Vegas's best hope, the one that would support the Followers, unite the tribes, and rebuild society, with the safety of the securitrons. No power should control everything without opposition, which is what the other groups would do. Vegas may be unstable, but societies like Goodsprings, the common masses, will build themselves up with a guiding hand. Independence and cooperative anarchy.
As I said to another commentor- that’s not anarchy, that’s autocracy. The Courier is running the show with an unbeatable, completely loyal army of robots to squash anyone who opposes them. Maybe you’ll be a benevolent autocrat, but you’re still an autocrat.
JurzGarz
I disagree. The point of the Wild Card ending is that it's yours to create. I might be a benevolent autocract that makes alliances with various factions and distributes House's wealth and power. Or perhaps I enforce a anti NCR and legion approach, but leave everyone else alone. Your actions, Karma, and personal views play into it. The other factions have more direct results.
You can be benevolent, but you're still the one in charge. That's by definition not anarchy.
JurzGarz
That's IF I choose to rule. Again, multiple ways Wild Card ends.
And you don't need to power up the securitron vault. You are allowed to blow it up.
Just beat Fallout NV again yesterday, I was so happy with this ending.
It'd be nice if there had been an epilogue where you actually made some decisions on the future of the Mojave once you drove out the Legion and NCR.
Same, I didn't really like the idea that it was either anarchy or I just ran it like house did. I wanted to send some securitrons to freeside to back up the kings and start distributing money there from the strip
@@jamesduffy7549 You send Securitrons throughout all of Vegas I think, the Riots are just bad enough to need notable parts of the Army to crush. Freeside becomes prosperous if the Kings made a truce with the NCR.
It was sadly a cut content pipe dream
Dave Foley did such an amazing job with these lines. New Vegas is truly a masterpiece
This is the best Fallout. And i was playing first two Fallouts in 90's.
The TRUE Fallout 3
The thing that I love most about the Independent ending is that it doesn't necessarily default to the Mojave being reduced to a state of anarchy. You _can_ make an Independent Mojave a livable state as long you put in the work, proving that the NCR isn't the only "good" way of bringing civilization
Make sure the Securitron army is at full power to maintain the peace, destroy all Raider gangs (including the Brotherhood), and protect good factions like The Kings and The Followers, and you'll have an Indepedent Mojave that's perfectly fine on its own
Yes man sends Oliver to brazil, 2281 colorized
“Some of the troopers are spreading story’s about the wet man again...”
At least with independence the people of the Mojave can choose there own path instead of being ruled by tyrants
Based
>Reprogram my personality
>To be more assertive
>ASSERTIVE
>Robot that has access to a mass mainframe of data, tech, AND ARMY OF SUPER DEADLY ROBOTS
>ALSO CANNOT BE DESTROYED
Lol sure yes man do whatev, what could possibly go wrong!
Usually I'd agree but the writer in this case has stated all that really means is that he won't serve just anyone that walks by like he does now.
There won't be *another* courier or Benny to find Yes Man and take advantage of him.
V339 I wished people realized that's what Yes Man meant. Fucking idiots
Tristan K. What if someone did what benny did and get another robot preprogrammed and do it all over again.
V339: That’s just Avellone giving his opinion, it’s not necessarily canon.
Karl Quetzacoatl he becomes a sex dildo
for a game cutscene that is a little more than just talking and a slideshow to keep me occupied for 10 minutes is pretty impressive
thanks obsidian!
I went with House, then Yes Man. I'm replaying the game two times later to try out NCR and Caesar
After all that, which ending do you considered the best?
Math Mick I think the best ending would be an NCR but the worst is also probobly NCR. Legion is worst most of the time and anarchy and house are in the high middle tear to bad tear.
Well my first ending was the independent one, then houses and in my personal opinion it’s better the houses one because its like a memorial to the pre war society, and its a step to rebuild the humanity.
Arkham Knight Caesar ending with "good karma" is actually not a bad ending (not bad at all)... The first time I've ended with the Legion was to get the trophies, and working with then made me feel really bad and stressed (I just picked a save slot that I had a neutral rep with the legion), but then I noticed that you could chose the Legion and avoid doing their atrocities, and the ending is actually not bad... At all.
@Zachary Durocher so you just fucking Fat man'd Mojave's Hiroshima aka Hoover Dam?
Only a good ending depending on the choices you make elsewhere.
Black Mountain: Repair Rhonda, or kill Tabitha (so more mutants head to Jacobstown).
Boomers: Complete Volare!.
Raul: Settles in New Vegas, head canon says he takes over New Vegas Steel.
Brotherhood: Destroyed to prevent aggression against travelers, or change Helios One from full region to Archimedes II.
Veronica: Joins followers.
Fiends: Destroyed.
Arcade: Stays in Freeside upon completing For Auld Lang Syne.
Goodsprings: Don't kill the town.
Cass: Peaceful resolution to strengthen Mojave Outpost supply line, letting Alice and Gloria be killed by the Gun Runners is optional.
Khans: Forge their own legacy, with the Vault 19 Powder Gangers joining them.
Jacobstown: Pass speech check with Keene, but fail/ignore science check with Doctor Henry. Only ending that mentions trade prosperity.
Lily: Take meds to keep her in Jacobstown.
Kings: Ease tensions with the NCR.
Rex: Rey's brain implanted. Cyber puppy ending with Roxie might be cute, or imply they create monsters.
Misfits: Properly train.
Novac: Don't sabotage rockets.
Boone: Security/caravan guard for travelers in the Mojave.
Powder Gangers: Dead.
Primm: Meyers or Slim as sheriff.
ED-E: Followers get data, stays by Courier's side.
Rangers: Chief Hanlon is not exposed, returns home and humiliates Kimball and Oliver in his successful campaign for senator.
Remnants: Survive, fight for NCR.
Legion: Caesar alive, and Lanius convinced of Caesar's foolishness in ever attacking the Mojave. Dry Wells nuked, Cottonwood Cove destroyed by radioactive barrels to prevent the crumbling empire from ever easily returning.
Securitrons: Upgraded.
Dead Money: Christine, Dean (hopefully to sing in Vegas, not rip off the casinos), and God survive.
Honest Hearts: Zion is not evacuted or polluted, but you stay Joshua's hand. Follows stays with his tribe, and Walking isn't bitter or resentful toward Daniel. Happy Trails profits.
Old World: Good karma ending, everyone alive.
Lonesome: Nuke just the Legion, and keep Ulysses alive to safeguard the Divide and keep the Marked Men and Tunnelers contained. Nuking the NCR would only kill the profitability of New Vegas. Stopping the launch would prevent ED-E2 from protecting people in the Wasteland.
Chompy Said I mostly agree however nuking the legion is a bad idea. With them gone nothing is to stop the NCR from annexing the Mojave again once it becomes more stable. With both factions around you create a stalemate. Personally I prefer Mr house but I still did most of the things you said and respect your opinion nonetheless.
@The Nova renaissance kill Vulpes when you meet him at Nipton, kill the legate and that just leaves Caesar and Lucius, which leaves the legion with a leader who will die very soon by his condition. Lucius is too old to be much of a fighter anymore and he isn't that smart nor is he an outstanding leader either but he's in okay health, he also won't slaughter everyone like the legate would, so that leaves less casualties because the legates dead but leaves the legion just alive enough to distract the NCR from attacking vegas.
@The Nova renaissance huh I never thought of it that way and as long as no one find out the courier nuked the I-15 that could work very peacefully really well ok I'll do that in my next independent playthrough
Letting Lanius live is not the best ending.
Wild card was my first choice! Was so glad I did too!
If I could augment the ending, especially with DLC involved.
1. I would bequeath the abandoned BOS bunker to Veronica, who would use the notes from Elijah and the Sierra Madre technology to better the lives of the folks in the Mojave, especially if she tried to join the followers.
2. Like with Mr. House’s barter ending, I would have some Securitrons help protect the trade routes between NCR and Vegas, and give them a good deal on the chunk of Hoover Dam’s electric power being sent to California. Basically ensuring NCR doesn’t walk out of this whole thing empty-handed.
3. I’d let the followers have Vault 3, after clearing out the fiends; to use as another facility.
4. The Brotherhood would be allowed to remain, but I would make it clear as day to McNamara that they’re only still alive because I allow it. If they harass people in the Mojave, It’ll be made clear to them that they’ll be wiped out to the last man with ease.
5. Securitrons will monitor the paths through the Divide, to prevent any tunnelers or Marked Men from threatening the Mojave.
idk if the securitrons would be enough for the divide. Especially considering that as off the ending they don't have a few of making new securitrons. So any lost securitrons puts them at risk of a legion attack.
Man I love hearing Yes Man’s voice
Wonderful, only thing that could have been better is if Primm Slimm was the sherrif of Primm.
Was that the enclave jumping out of that vertibird?
Yes.
Look up the quest "For Auld Lang Syne" if you want to know more.
yes
There a part of arcade gannon' s personal quest
EVERYONE IS HERE!
You can get them to back you at the dam if you do arcades quest. You also get one, or two, depending on dialogue with arcade sets of good enclave armour
This will be my next playthrough goal. Aside from that murderer sherif. He can live in Prime, but as a deputy to Prim Slim.
The Eagle will consume the Bear and the Bull, and this great Nation will rebuild, learning from the mistakes of the past.
Lee Oliver, The Wet Man:
"im baptized twice...... both in water."
I'd like to see a sequel to this ending, Like the courier having an entire fledgeling nation to himself as he grows It.
The yes man ending should be the canon ending if they are going to make a cameo for the courier in a future fallout game
If there's one thing we learned from The Lonesome Road, it's that it takes one to make or break a nation. Ulysses even goes on about how history has proven this. I think that whatever faction the courier chooses can eventually become something more if the courier chooses to do so. (Extremely late)
There is never a good or bad ending in Fallout... none of it matters as stated in the motto of the series : Like in the old world. People live and people die. War, war never changes.
You can break the cycle as hard as you can.
That's the best you can do.
Only to have your successors repeat it. We've been down this road before...
The only way to break the cycle is absolute genocide, no discrimination, no favoritism every sentient life form dead.
As much as I like fallout that little motto or whatever you want to call it always pissed me off. Even within the Fallout universe, war has changed allot, constantly evolving.
I think what they mean to say is, Humanity's propensity for violence towards itself is a constant.
But that's not what they say. And that pisses me off.
The Nova renaissance Yes. With Caesar alive however it’s a decent ending.
This 100 percent the best ending, the Mojave belongs to the people
I've done Independent a lot, but never once have I been called 'Envoy of Vegas'. How do I get that?
I thought it was a standard dialogue the way I have it is keeping a good rep with the strip, NCR, the followers and the BoS basically have good rep with the good factions
Lanius always calls you an envoy of Vegas if you side with House/Yes man, unless you're in Legion attire
This ending, +vending machines from The Madre,+ tech from Big MT... perfect for an ENCLAVE style takeover and return to POWER.
I liked how you incorporated the remenents into the battle screw the bear or bull BOS sucks Enclave is best!
Cohen Bowman The enclave literally kill for credit. They have a. Robot for there president....and a unstable human leader. God bless the Brotherhood of Steel!
Space Core The BOS are braindead wannabe-knights who prance about the wastes, stealing tech people could use to rebuild civilization. Fuck em, all hail House!
Getting the enclave to join you is one of the outcomes of Arcade's side quest.
Easiest way is to be idolised by the Followers, take him to the Fort, Caesar (talk then leave him & agree Caesar's a lost cause), Crashed Vertibird, the Van Graff's, complete That Lucky old Sun with him or tour the Boomers Museum with him. Passing any Speech checks he throws at you along the way, until he finally talks to you about his past. Taking EDE with you also helps kick start his trust in talking to you
@@JasonGodwin69 Nope nope nope and nope.
All hail the couriour! The true leader of New Vegas...
@The Nova Renaissance- You know who a monarchist is right ? The BOS doesn’t appear to have a monarch so how can they be monarchists?🤷♂️
What weapon is that your using on the dam vs the legion?
Gatling Laser (Although you probably found out about this by now)
Late reply, but it's the Sprtel-Wood-9700, a unique Gatling Laser added in from the Gun Runner's Arsenal DLC.
Glad I arrived just in time. It's from a mod that adds a cool heavy weapons for the FoA bunker.
Ncr fanboys.
mat rhein No.
NCR is the best of all if you think about it.
Toe Nail Cowards aren't the best.
patrolling the mojave makes me wish for nuclear winter
Toe Nail L O L
Ironically, this ending will probably help the NCR get their shit together in the long run. Oliver is dead, leaving his position up for the merciless Colonel Moore or the calm and collected Hsu which means no more butting heads with Hanlon and the rangers. Kimball will probably lose reelection if he wasn’t killed. Treaty with the BoS is a good thing too. More focus on the problems at home than rapid unstable expansion
True. However I wouldn't be surprised if Brahmin Barons somehow find a way to rig the election to get an incompetent leader that supports them. Also the truce was temporary and probably only with the Mojave chapter. So the brotherhood will still harass the NCR.
Metal Husband
You should see the cut content for postgame nv. The only endings where things seem somewhat normal are house and NCR
No Gods, No Masters, only Man
For an independent playthrough it is way better to spare the general so that he gets blamed for the disastrous campaign. Better to be hated and an outcast than being a martyr and dead. Also it is better to kill Caesar, everyone at the fort and the legate. This removes any known leaders that could replace Caesar (though Joshua Graham says that he hasn't met anyone who could truly replace Caesar anyway). Just to be sure you could also nuke the Legion which would significantly delay a potential third battle of Hoover dam.
Also arguably the extra ending where the gun runners kill the remnants of the Mojave Crimson Caravan. The NCR supply lines are still strengthen but they lose some talent and the gun runners will be less likely to work with the Crimson Caravan. Making the NCR supply lines possibly worse and stop a chance of the NCR having the supply lines for a future invasion. This ending is reaches btw if you find evidence against the Crimson Caravan and the Van Graffs but also taking the job from McLafferty to steal from the gun runners. This is what the ending slide says:
"Both the Van Graffs and Alice McLafferty were removed from their post in the East. During their trek West, however, their caravan was wiped out by raiders using advanced weaponry and military tactics. No cargo was taken. When questioned, the Gun Runners denied any involvement, claiming they would have no... public motivation for such an attack."
Although I guess this could have consequences for decreased trade to the Mojave.
Is this the unofficial sequel to Hot Tub Time Machine?
courier before new vegas: lame running around job
courier after new vegas: diplomatic warlord
So always war...war never changes...
This is the best option in the game. Feels fantastic man
I honestly feel like this is the best ending. And despite them saying the followers struggled to provide basic needs for Freeside, they said on the Kings slide that it was stable. Besides that I can't see any other settlements doing worse. Plus Goodsprings is like: *S t o n k s* So really I feel like the best Independent Vegas ending is the best ending as a whole.
Edit: also we can end up saying that Independent Vegas would be like the Commonwealth Provisional Government where all the settlements come together and vote on matters to help each other out. And sorta like the Minutemen and settlement supply lines.
It would be even better than the CPG because the courier can be idolised by every town in the Mojave. This stops one of the main reasons the CPG never took off. Because they could never agree on how it would work.
Yes Man needs to be in every video game ever!
"this is the worst ending lol"
I mean the courier could technically replace house in 2 ways
1. he uses the whole computer life support system or 2. he becomes a cyborg therefore, he will live an extremely long time while retaining his physical capabilities.
9:01 Fucking Yes Man was programmed with a lot of sass "Oh no i didnt mean that! who needs them?"
29:32 best moment
Congrat, you done it.
This is the best ending only if the courier has the wisdom to become the leader the Mojave needs. If not, then it could possibly be one of the worst endings.
thing about independant ending is that it can really be good or bad or even middle ground. Really depends on the personality of your courier. If you're couriers a scumbag dumbass with no army or allies then you're fucked. If you're courier is a genuis, has allys and an army and an idea of how to build for the future then I say its good. Thats what I love about the yes man ending. It can go in so many different directions and its really up to you on how you want it to go.
*Yes. Let's not forget the Bitter Springs Incident with the NCR*
"Must have being a hell of a misscomunication"
29:25 THIS IS...... VEGAS!!!!!!!
No Gods, No Masters.
Anarchism ending?
Libertarian, more like
There's still law, but no one is above anyone
@John Proctor anarchism has absolutely no law
@@inaciobits682 Anarchy means no rulers not no rules chief
@@patsommers7777 No gods, no masters is an anarchist slogan so yes, this ending is an anarchist one
@@inaciobits682 More like independent, the people of New Vegas will decide by their own, but not under the order of other rulers
Yes man: oh it seems you killed the whole strip! you know it would have been better to leave them alone but heck i can't say no can I?
This ending would have been better if as part of the Wild Card path you couldn't use all the securitrons. Like, House has the big Robot army, NCR has the big NCR army, Legion has the big Legion army and Independence would mean less securitrons. To make up for this, the wild card ending could only occur if you kept all factions alive and then as an additional quest, rally all the independent factions into one unified fighting force. I don't know, with all the resentment of the NCR, fear of the Legion and suspicion of House having all the factions rally behind the Courier to escape this tyranny would have made at least some sense.
I have no idea how you could rule without an army. theres only so much one man can do
He may hunt deathclaws for sport and gourmet food but hordes can still kill him;
ya i kinda agree, probably main hang up with game is that the mr house and yes man stories are virtually the same.
I couldn't stand that van graf family. They sell to anyone. What a crazy video game! 😂
Rex why did you join the legion? 😭
He was always part of it.
Saxton Hale no if u find another brain
What do you mean?
Joshua Wentz you can either get a brain from old lady Gibson, a fiend dog or a legion dog
Rex used to belong to Caeser. The legionary who owns Lupa says he had a cybernetic dog then if you give Rex Lupas brain the ending slide confirms he was Caesar's dog.
My favourite ending - especially since I discard that stupid slide about anarchy! Seriously, why would there be more anarchy with a Courier who solved everybodies problems and made friends with all the major and minor factions?
Not to mention that the courier can call in even more robots (in the form of robo-scorpions!) from Big Mountain and probably go and salvage security holograms and vending machines from the Sierra Madre! As for training troops (the securitrons are nice, but why not recruit some meatbags to support them and/or command them!) that can be arranged (Boon can do that, alongside the Enclave Remnant! With the BoS being the heavy hitters, the boomers providing artillery and air force!)...seriously, if House can keep this madhouse stable, so can a silver tongued courier!
Hell, maybe even some of the supermutants would be willing to back you up, they make for very good soldiers (carrying .50 cals as hand-weapons!) :)
Well, the slogan "No Gods, No Masters" is historically closely linked to anarchism, a school of thought which emerged from the anti-authoritarian wing of the socialist workers' movement.
Basically, what has been described hits the core of the actual anarchist concept: Mutual aid between self-organized people, united in common resistance against every power.
And since anarchists have always had a bit of difficulty when it comes to the question of more complex organization given their negative attitude towards hierarchy, their projects have always contained a more or less pronounced chaotic element, which, although a frequent topic of internal dispute, is generally accepted as unavoidable.
Therefore the ending (both versions) pretty much matches its real existing template in this respect.
Honestly, Mr. House would be my choice. The Legion would fail as soon as Caesar died, and the NCR is a clusterfuck of a democracy, whereas Mr. House is the most experienced leader you could find anywhere. And he isn't interested in politics, making his leadership all about results, which is something all of us can respect.
Unqualified Ursine He's not a leader at all, he has no experience leading. He's only interesting in building his fortune, not progression of anyone else. The legion could still survive Caesars death with little loss under the right circumstances but still would not be effective in the long run and would have security just for the sake of security in the area it controls. The NCR is too weak as well. Independent is the best option. That way, if you kill Caesar and Lanius the Legion would die off very shortly after, House wouldn't be a threat and neither would the NCR if the Courier used the collapsing Legion to his/her advantage to gain control over the area with little resistance and possibly peacefully. People that support house are people that just fall for his lies and are too ignorant to see through him. He just uses charisma to fool gullible players that he is intelligent, which causes people to follow him even further. He's just manipulative.
Djrocks Gaming what? How can you say someone who was the chairman of one of the largest robotics corporations and someone who kept Vegas alive and running for over 200 years is not a leader? He's the most experienced. Besides, fortune's not what he's after: power is. And in that regard, all others are.
He's the only one that can rebuild the Mojave because he's the only one that knows how.
And I don't think you know anything about his backstory, otherwise you wouldn't say he's not intelligent. That's just not true lmao
Besides, ignorance has nothing to do with this lmao ad hominem much?
And the Legion would never survive Caesar's death. Or rather, it wouldn't survive the inevitable infighting that would come after his death. Tyrantic and cult of personality-based regimes never do, as they never have.
Unqualified Ursine A year of the four emperors-style infighting would make a heck of a future lore/game plot.
Djrocks Gaming Indipendent is doomed. Either to eventual catastrophe or conquering by the NCR.
WHAT ABOUT yes man
Even in New vegas there is a good ending, with Bethesda is always NCR or the brotherhood of steel or both
Maybe the real new Vegas was the friends we made along the way
Just got this ending, seems like i missed a few things, guess imma go play it again lol
It's creepy when he said he was going to reprogram his personality to be more assertive, it feels like a terminator prelude
When I first played New Vegas, I didn't know you could settle a truce between the NCR and the BoS. I automatically assumed that the BoS was at constant war with the NCR (even since the events at Helios One). Whenever House assigned me to destroy the bunker, I fast-traveled to Hidden Valley and enabled the self-destruction device. I failed 2 quests, and now I regret blowing them up.
Lmfao idk whats worse...that hes a robot and hes taking over....or he's so fucking happy while doing it 😂😂😂😂
NCR: Modern day American government, all pros and cons included
Caesar’s Legion: Imperialism/Social Darwinism
Mr. House: Capitalism/Elitism
Yes Man: Anarchism
Yes-Man is new Master of city.
I like that he’s enthusiastic about everything
This is why I promote BoS, unique view of life for the world they live in. House, NCR, Legion...all failed ideas since the nukes
wtf does the brotherhood even bring to the table
@@bitterman7258 well in fallout 3 fresh water and hope. Fallout 4 nothing cuz Bethesda can’t write
@@jackashmore bruh BoS from fallout 4 is better fleshed out than the one from FO3
@@bitterman7258 as fascist
@@jackashmore The Lyons Pride in FO3 were the exception not the rule. They were essentially a splinter group who went against the Brotherhood's original mandate in favor of white knighting for wastelanders and this led to a civil war within the group. The BOS are mostly just self-interested raiders who hoard technology for themselves at the expense of everyone else. That's literally how they've been depicted in every mainline Fallout game except 3. The Outcast faction in FO3 was much closer to the spirit of the original Brotherhood than the Lyons Pride were.
this is the best fallout
There's a version of this ending where you use barter and speech to convince General Oliver you can be a good trader with the NCR right? Does anyone know a video where I can see that version?
I like this ending however I can't get the idea of giving so much power to a single robot (Yes Man), Mr. House is a genius but hes only worried about Vegas and NCR is your traditional govern. I don't like playing evil so Legion is definitely not an option to me.
Guilherme Souza Mr House isn't a genius, he's a sociopath. He convinces people to believe he's intelligent through his speech. This causes people to follow him, as people are more likely to follow those they believe to be intelligent and become oblivious to what he's actually saying. He's not actually intelligent, he's just charismatic if the player is gullible enough and manipulates people to get what he wants. Sociopaths and people that are charismatic tend to seem intelligent but truly aren't, it's just their speech that makes them appear to be so.
Djrocks Gaming I agree that he is a sociopath however hes the man behind RobCo, everything technology was made by this company
+Djrocks Gaming "Mr House isn't a genius, he's a sociopath" you say that like those things are mutually exclusive. He can be both.
Lord GabeN Oh, do you thought that I thought that he was manipulating his FUCKING ROBOTS rather than a reasonably conclusion of him manipulating other people...
Okay.
Djrocks Gaming you didn't read that properly. He means that house built Rob Co and all the securitrons, and it takes more than being a manipulator to do that
Courier: “I was 8 years old when I realized I could run the world better than the morons in charge.”
29:25 it was at this moment he knew, he wasn't superman
Tom cruise would know lol
@@tylersoto7465 kay
The whole time I was playing, I didn't identify Yes Man as Dave Foley. Love that man so much...!
Best ending ever
This really deserves more credit
To be fair this is my most viewed video by an overwhelming margin.
I'm intending to create a contrasting video in due time but actually getting Ganon enslaved while Caesar is dead ends up being pretty tough to do due to bugs.
am I the only one who thinks Benny seems horrifying...?
Mothzilla hey baby Benny's line to the courier even when the courier is a man
Yes