The Profound Meaning of Plato's Allegory of the Cave
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- Опубліковано 25 вер 2024
- In this episode we explore Plato’s "Allegory of the Cave", its connection to ancient myths, and the ultimate narrative archetype we know as the Hero’s Journey. Plato's "Allegory of the Cave" is one of the most influential philosophical concepts ever introduced, encapsulating timeless questions about reality, knowledge, perception, and enlightenment. Located in Plato's seminal work, "The Republic," the Allegory of the Cave serves as a metaphorical narrative depicting the human condition's journey from ignorance to enlightenment.
The Athenian philosopher Plato (c. 428-347 B.C.) is one of the most important figures of the Ancient Greek world and the entire history of Western thought. In his written dialogues he conveyed and expanded on the ideas and techniques of his teacher Socrates.
The Academy he founded was by some accounts the world’s first university and in it he trained his greatest student, the equally influential philosopher Aristotle. Plato’s recurring fascination was the distinction between ideal forms and everyday experience, and how it played out both for individuals and for societies. In the “Republic,” his most famous work, he envisioned a civilization governed not by lowly appetites but by the pure wisdom of a philosopher-king.
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So glad to see this collaboration!
Beautifully done, all around!
I hope that this further leads to newer perspectives for them.
Thank you so much for everything, Mark.
It was a honour working with you on this one! ❤️🔥🌞
@DontReadMyProfilePicture.57ok. I won’t
The wall is projected through our artificial reality: screens ie. phones, tablets, laptops, movie theaters, Big Screens, flat screen TV, etc.
Tell me I am wrong.
When you understand the principle of "The Cave", it's impossible to not see it's effects playing out in the world we inhabit.
Powerfull presentation, thankyou to all involved.
And it just continues to play out.
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Be A Human. And be A Constitutional American.
Cant find a Flag emoji.🤔
@@mickrozycki451 I restrain myself from saying Alex was right, anons were right etc..
Absolutely beautiful. Hardest part about coming out of the cave is finding others who have. It’s so hard to find those who have a truly exited the cave and question their reality
Absolutely 💯 it seems as though we are all spread around the world, no where near one another
Fortunately we have the internet so its much easier to find other people who are on the same path
Use the JQ as a litmus test.
Definitely. The pain isn't the knowledge but the isolation it often brings. Trying to assimilate back into the trivial once this journey is underway is painful.
The good news is only takes a concentrated few that are committed to turn the trajectory, there lies another issue, thinking and doing.
A big piece that needs to be absorbed from this is someone who has not left the cave has no frame of reference for what is outside it. This is one reason for Morpheus's success with Neo in the Matrix when he says "there's no way I can explain it to you. You have to see it for yourself. Don't place all the effort into telling people about the outside, just ask if they are willing to walk. If they aren't, you let them be. If they are, you move forward. Knowledge can't be forced, it can only be received. And if they are unwilling to receive, then will remain chained in darkness no matter what you do or say.
And the other big piece that needs to be absorbed from this is that we who seem to be living in the sunlight outside the cave, are actually chained to the wall in the dark cave exactly as described. Are we truly able to perceive undistorted reality? Everyone must try to make this shift of levels to really benefit from the power of the allegory. That which you perceive as truth is actually little more than shadows of a much more immediate and profound reality.
This guy gets it 👏
There's much sound speech in the comments, yet I'm not unacquainted with loaded and fanciful rhetoric.
"Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it"(Matthew 7:14).
That is the nature of the progressive left. You emerge from one cave only to disappear into another. They end up eating their young.
The allegory explains all of that, as does this video I guess you missed that part and misunderstood LMAO
14:52 "It is not our fault for being raised in these conditions but it is our solemn duty to escape."
I understand. Thank you.
It is our solemn duty to escape, not go back and rescue the others.
In order to save others you have to save yourself first. There are also people that doesn't want to be saved for various reasons.@@happinesstan
It is much easier to live in victimhood, Howe a man’s stays in the world is determined by the quality of his thinking.
and many people are born, live and die in the shadows because those people were never exposed to knowledge nor wisdom.
@@happinesstanin Plato’s work, his point was that it was their responsibility to share their riches (knowledge). That, in order to have the greatest society possible, it required those people choosing a lesser life than they could’ve had had they neglected the others. So, yeah, from the very beginning, “Republic” was always an idea that required a certain altruism, or communism, hence the original Greek title Politeia; “community of citizens”. It was never about “representative” (elitist consolidation of power) government.
This was an amazing and elegant invitation out of the cave. Thank you... 🙏 May the entire World be ENLIGHTENED!!!
A Tibetan take on Plato's cave: There are some frogs that live at the bottom of a deep well. They have spent their entire lives in the well. One day a frog enters from the outside and tries to describe the ocean. The other frogs can not even begin to comprehend such a vastness. This vastness is Enlightenment.
Did they leapfrog?
@@rollzolo This is really really important. It's the key to freeing us from the eternal cycle of death and suffering...... And yes, they did leapfrog.
And yet knowing the ocean he'd know nothing of the universe. A hollow enlightenment. Simply knowing more but knowing nothing of what is. And still the frog would know nothing but the tiniest bit of the ocean, as he's a frog, no better than the others. No smarter in the end.
Knowing "what is" is knowing the ocean. Its an analogy.
@petewright4640 It's an illusion of superiority. A way to justify preaching to others when you're truly in no better of a situation. Just more educated in one subject but less in others.
This channel's the best thing possible for an English teacher like myself who always presents philosophy and mythology on the way. It's pretty incredible that each year I present the Allegory of the Cave in one unit and the Hero's Journey in another or all the other units. This really sums it all up with a great visual to go with it. Thanks for the help guys.
Lots of kids in school might be better with videos of newer knowledge. But We are Censored,
Keep up the great work!
I've never met a sophisticated English teacher. Keep up with the usual stuff. You're a hero.
@@jmnatty2004censored by who?
Who else? Those who hunger for control. Power.
Leaving the cave means one must bear the weight of being alone in leaving the cave. You will be thought of as crazy by those you now perceive still trapped in the cave and wanting only to bring them out of their cave will be met with stubbornness and walls, you are not meant to break the walls they place before you. move along with yourself alone and continue to explore. This is what ive found with my leaving the cave, persist and perseverance.
Right, was waiting for a part where Plato or Socrates would give suggestions on how to deal with resistance to sharing knowledge 😂😂😂
I guess that’s the thing…you gotta be ready to absorb and learn on your own time. This story and lesson I’ve known a long time but only recently have appreciated it.
Even though the allegory indicates a lone venturer others have left the cave also. This is were “we” becomes more powerful than “I” alone.
I'm 64 and often wonder what I'm so wrong about that I think I'm absolutely right about or what I think is so important but doesn't really matter. I've come to both of those realizations many times in my life. As a young man, I took life way to serious.
But if they see you happier and more content in life that gives them reasons to join you. I've discovered in healing myself and focusing on me, others followed my example and I didn't even ask them to, they chose to from seeing me healthier.
@@kristinajackson2014 unfortunately my case is, all that i know are far to chained down to the cave.. as if the original chains weren’t enough, they desired/wanted more chains. Im sure they want to leave their cave, but no clue how to detach themselves from so many chains. Ie: subscriptions to everything chains, and need a 9$ coffee everyday chains waaa im so broke blah blah i give them the keys they toss em in a pile of whatever this guy doesn’t know me. When i actually know humans and how we do sometimes 🤷♂️
I first learned about Plato's Allegory of the Cave back in one of my English classes in my freshman year of college and it was an extraordinary experience to read it because the professor made a good job on explaining it to us and why it's so important. It quickly became one of my favorite pieces of literature ever.
Read the Symposium i.e. Diotima’s ladder
It's basically a pyramid scheme for egotists. Plato wanted to be a hero, he had a unique vision which he wanted to impress upon the world. Unable to chain people to a wall, he wrote a book. In that book he outlined how to be a hero. Basically, he reached the point of discovering beauty [in Socrates' thinking] and going straight back to imitation.
Then you probably didn't learn it, you were taught it.
@@happinesstan You can't teach anyone anything; you can only inspire students to learn.
Thank you UA-cam for giving me this recommendation at a time when I am rethinking my entire life. I was just diagnosed with autism and ADHD and am now figuring out how to proceed in a world that feels unfamiliar. The timeless greats of philosophy provide encouragement and solace in this process, which is fundamentally human from time immemorial.
This is interesting. I am a lifestyle medicine educator I have noticed that people resist the information that their health issues are often caused by lifestyle decisions. They do not want to make the effort to change and prefer to blame fate, genetics or others for their condition.
Well Mr. Educator, think of your 'students' as people hooked on drugs. If your ever met a 'junky' or anyone with a pathological addiction like : gambling, drugs, sex etc., you can see how hard it is for them to retake 'control' of their life. Today's society thrives on making most of us 'hooked' on something. Most addictions are unseen. The worst are sugar, screens (iPhone,Tablet etc), gaming, compulsive buying (excess consuming)...
So, anyone addicted to sugar (McDonald's, processed food) will face the same battle as the heroin addict. The only difference is the sugar or gamer addict will see themselves as 'normal' and denigrate drug addicts or alcoholics. No wonder rats were wavering when they had to chose between sugar and different hard drugs. That's why many don't want to change their lifestyle to improve their health. Like all addicts, they will find any reason to keep their habit.
One has to admit that he has a problem to try taking control of their life.
I must say, we all could find, something that we are 'hooked' on in our own life. The only difference with 'addicts' is that it hasn't destroyed our life... yet! hehe
I would love to have the pleasure of meeting you.
hi
@@nickieglazer33
Until you make the unconscious conscious, It will rule your life and you will call it fate -Carl yung
Spoke in the medical industry machine. Be proud!
Your timing is impeccable… it feels humanity is ready for revelations and revolutions.
It's explains why people are so afraid of woke ideas. They are so use to the world they live in. They can't handle wokeness and how it makes more sense
The irony is this beautiful presentation is itself a projection inside the cave.
Only when you avoid your responsibility to partake your own hero's journey.
In the circle or arc of experience, even if it passes through enlightenment, the return phase is a return to the cave.
So where else will a completed journey be expressed?
Are you a prisoner?
A prisoner staring at and replying to shadows on a screen.
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Plato’s Allegory of the Cave is such a profound reflection of the human condition writ large that it makes you wonder how it’s even possible for a human mind to comprehend such a thing, let alone create such a theory. It is literally incomprehensible.
I perceive that it's because he experienced it and processed it. For me I've experienced the hero's journey and how different people respond. Some choose to walk and experience it while others say they don't believe. I have found that one can choose to progress on the path of peace by facing and letting go of all judgment.
15:22 absolutely brilliant ❤
Thank you for this. It has been an emotionally traumatic few years watching truth denied. I have ceaselessly tried to wake people up, at great personal cost. This video is full of affirmation that I am doing the right thing.
Me too...I figured out how to cure obesity for most people, and I actually wrote a book about it, but nobody respects my opinion. They can't see through the illusions created by society.
@@ClassicJukeboxBand writing the book is your personal reward, those meant to find you, will find you 🙏
I recommend the stoics, one whom said; one must develop the serenity to accept that which you cant control, the courage to change what you can control, and the wisdom to tell the difference. Sounding the alarm is not how people leave the cave. Be there for people when they start to ask questions and desire answers not shown on the cave wall.
You are not the holder of truth, you may be in a part of the cave where you see the fire fooling the others, but you are also following shadows by an alternative secondary fire, built to catch people trying to escape. Trumpism is a good example of this, his supporters think that only they have left the cave of establishment politics and can see the truth, but its just more shadows pretending to be the change they greatly desire, that is enough to keep them satisfied.
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@@VeganSemihCyprus33 Wtf is this place?
This is the second time this allegory has shown up for me in two weeks. John Vervaeke brought it back to my awareness in his 'Awakening from the meaning crisis' series. Definitely worth the watch!
This is the story of your enslavement by the corrupt culture 👉The Connections (2021) [short documentary] 💖
The scary thing is that your perception of "the truth" is incredibly biased and fear based. Good luck on your journey tho.
Might have to watch that. I mean, the meaning crisis seems to have defined humanity for centuries, nay millennia. And it's not particularly tricky. Life has no meaning until you experience it and apply your own. But it's not your place to apply your meaning to anybody else.
You can be the master of your own destiny, but you should deter followers.
This is the best, most profound, and most important infotainment video I have watched in a very, very, very long time. It massively reflects my own journey, as I became increasingly libertarian, especially as we traversed the dystopian COVID19 journey.
But have you ever seen a real libertarian or is it just shadows?
Early on in this brilliant clip, I began to see the parallels between the “Plato's Allegory of the Cave” and Neo in the Matrix. Neo's life was a construction of illusions until he is freed to experience the real world. The “Allegory of the Cave” is timeless and we are experiencing it today on computer screens. People can no longer tell the difference between the threat of nuclear war and an action movie...
Plato was ahead of his time.
The moment when you realize UA-cam is a modern Plato’s cave…
Troof!
True but also not true it’s more nuanced than that
All of life is Platos cave
Absolutely not true, UA-cam provides information and enlightenment if you watch the right stuff. TV, NFL, Netflix, Hulu, Fox News, Facebook, and especially TikTok are the actual caves
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Linking Plato's Cave with the Hero's Journey was excellent! Thank you!
Agrippa’s Diary is a new delight I’ve discovered recently. 🙏
I have two problems with Plato's Cave
1. Everyone thinks that they're the ones who have left the cave and that everyone else is still stuck inside looking at shadows.
2. There is no leaving the cave. There's only a series of larger and larger caves.
I was once asked if people have free will -- i answered; of course fast -- but later i came to think about the question, and thought it was not actually so easy to answer, and today i would probably answer no.
@@homeistheearth Yes. You have total free-will. I am a teacher of the divine universe associated with Godly angelics and not any church. Plato, in fact. converted in spirit-body afterlife (thanks to Socrates) to the path I share of on Earth. If you'd like to learn more about free-will and how the universe is actually designed, just ask. Peace.
@@homeistheearth Seconded. Please provide some arguments for substantiation. Explain how, what we now call self-deletion, could occur, outside of free will? (we know it's not a product of a high score of suffering points). And how can we maintain a system of crime and punishment, if there is no free will, how do we hold the criminal responsible? Moreover, how do we hold the punishers responsible for their misdeeds against others, if we cannot?
Good point, touche'!
@@philippeamon7271Crime and punishment are man made for this planet. The Universe knows only love. People perceive wanted and unwanted. Humans try to control others based on what they do not want. Hence, we see the push and pull. For the Universe, it is what it is.
Everyone has free will. Believe, don't believe. Stay in the cave, venture out of the cave. Spend your life trying to control others so you feel better, or, learn to master yourself. The choice is yours.
One of the best life lessons for anyone!! No words to thank you for this extraordinary way of explaining the essence of what being human really means! Your deep research, excellent script, excelent line of thought, narration, superb graphics!! I am sharing this jewel with my colleagues and students at UCL and the Institute of Education, friends, family..... this should be part of school curricula worldwide. I wish I had seen this in my secondary school! More please!!
My school, in England(1960s) only was interested in getting you into "another brick in the wall" NOT in making you think about the wrongs of the system. Peace be unto you.
Thanks for this! I’ve long believed that many of our society live in Plato’s Cave - accepting what they see on TV, in movies, and on the ‘net as absolute, irrefutable reality. It is maddening to realize they do not live in reality - nor do they even perceive reality.
And, not to forget the cell phone worshippers who carry their phones and are on it incessantly. Can have a conversation with a friend on the phone (old wall phone) and chat about something then hear her clicking to get updated information on her cell phone.
Yeah, because Plato was critiquing TV and movies.
@@happinesstan Hilarious. To someone in Plato’s day, seeing a television hanging on the wall would look like shadows dancing there.
Damn, that's a powerful voice.
@DontReadMyProfilePicture.57stop spamming the comments bro.
Reminds me of Christopher Lee.
Gives new meaning and perception as you get older. This never gets old but unveils new ways of thinking about life and our situations.
"Most people not only find solace in their ignorance, but also exhibit hostility towards those who challenge their preconceived notion" - Platto
We have lived this in 2020, the censorship and hostility towards those who challenged the official narrative was unlike anything we have ever seen, a once in a lifetime experience.
The challenging was a once in a lifetime. Bu the narrative is ongoing.
Once in a lifetime or maybe another few similar things round the corner?....
1. What the fuck are you guys talking about?
2 It's Plato... ONE T
yeah, and its about to get worse. we have more chaos ahead of us.Let go of the trivial, frivilous things now so that you can handle the hardships we are about to face. The good thing is that we will begin to see who is really who and probably form much closer relationships after having to leave many behind.
@@simplecooking9220 many more to come. they want to break us so that we are desperate enough to submit.
Beautifully done. The matrix also includes the character who chooses not to venture out and prefers the comfort of the matrix. How many of those who left the cave went back, chained themselves back up and watched the shadows?
How many are currently staring at their computer scared of the world that it paints?
Very true that it takes almost your entire life to understand Plato’s Allegory of the Cave and then you look back down and hope to inform those still in the cave. That last thing is very dangerous.
This video deserves a billion views 👏
7.5 billion.
Statistically this content and channel are too honest for %80 of the population.
@@CrumbsoftotailtariansimThat's right, too much for the snowflake generation 🤣
Thank you for the profound lesson, Gandalf.
Thank you. The path is indeed uncomfortable...
This was beautifully illustrated and narrated. And the text was sweet honey. So comforting and honest. This one was truly special.
What path? If you're following a path, it's somebody else's. And humanity has followed Plato's path for long enough now. Maybe we should follow Socrates' path.
Finally Plato’s cave is getting more recognition 🎉
Now if only we could learn more lessons from greek philosphers from 2000+ years ago, because there are still so so many that are highly relevant today.
I feel this video released at such an ideal time. Talk about not taking things as coincidences; I'm currently reading 'The Celestine Prophecy' which I feel ties in really well with Plato's Allegory of the Cave. Trying to understand a deeper importance to our lives. Looking past the material world and trying to find energy we currently have been unaware of that's always existed.
Growing up is overwhelming, but taking that unknown path by pursuing more knowledge and insight has been quite a fulfilling undertaking. Think freely and question everything!
Thank you for this. I came out of the cave many years ago in the sixties when I read "Plato's Republic" but find it increasingly difficult to get others to join me, especially after the intense government/MSM propaganda machine made the cave more suitable for the sheep who dwell there.
I've told people that the best thing I did in my life was move from N.J. in the late 60's to San Francisco. I've also told people the worst thing I've done in my life is move from N.J. in the late 60's to San Francisco.
Nobody is out of the cave, that’s the whole point
You're still IN the cave!!!
@@JoshDil93 care to explain
@@devinkipp4344 It’s been some months since reading this but I’ll summarize. The cave’s entire premise is based around only knowing the experience one has been given, and not being able to see further because of this constraint. You can question this premise if you’d like, but this is how I interpreted it.
We have a limited amount of experiences, no matter who we are. None of us are able to know things we haven’t experienced, so it follows that we are all in a cave of some sorts and always will be. To me, only an all-knowing being would no longer be part of a cave. Of course the caves change as we become educated, and instead of a the extremely restrictive cave at the start of this section in the Euthyphro, we might have a ‘cave’ like Earth that we are bound to.
A few considerations: I don’t have the view that we must have direct experience to know of something, this would be an anti-intellectual stance; when I speak of experience, I’m including the many instruments we use to measure things we can’t directly experience ( compositions of other bodies in space, abstract mathematics, microorganisms, for example). And including the things we arrive at by deductive, or inductive inferences.
Very beautiful picturization and narration.
It is so common for people to default to written scripts nowadays… We need more people thinking for themselves! True observation void of bias with natural imaginative thought is a trait so rare, yet so valuable.
People these days don’t think. Because college teaches you not to think, just follow the Marxist narrative. Don’t send your kids to college. At least for now.
This video hit home. I needed it. You have had some amazing ones over the years. This one I needed. Thank you.
Wow. This is so timely!! Synchronicity at play again. Thank you 💚🙏
My first exposure to Plato’s Cave. Excellent! Thank you.😎
this is one of the best videos ive ever seen
Great animation. Great script. Great narration. Bravo. 👏
I am so glad more people are discovering this
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These videos are always exceptionally made, thank you! This one is great
Other than my first reading of Plato decades ago, this is by far the most clear, precise and entertaining presentation of The Cave I've ever experienced. Thank you for this excellent creation. If you ever decide to edit it, then I'd suggest a mention of both Christ and Moses as a type of Prometheus.
The best and profound video on Plato’s Allegory of the cave ❤
If you are reading this. You are incredible. You are limitless. Take care. I wish you a wonderful life. Have a great day
Wonderfully told and illustrated. Thank you.
The problem is that everyone THINKS they've left the cave.
False: there are many who never bother to question and many more who don't even bother to think. For the others, understanding of reality is subjective. It's not as clear as sun > no sun and color > monotony. When it comes to who is right, there are superior theories but even they evolve as the human race evolves, outgrowing or re-shaping it's prejudice and bias so it's just a perpetual, rolling question.
I would add that even when we have left the cave and completed the journey... We have to do it all over again.. and again..
The problem is when content is selectively censored. Such as replies to this comment.
True, when the reality is that it’s impossible to “leave” the cave. No matter how enlightened you are, you’re still a human with a flawed body and limited mind.
Exactly, but it's a dream within a dream within a dream
This is the best representation of "The Cave" on youtube, kudos to the artist and everyone else involved!
Hadn't watched this one before, but well familiar with the "Hero's Journey." Republic is one of the most powerful commentaries on humanities struggle to stop focusing on self and think. Trying to get people to think of something larger than self, use their abilities not for self-centered reasons, but to make their world, society, community better by their presence in it... that's a universal uphill battle.
One of my favories vids of yours so far. Keep it up, Afterskool!
Matrix explained by the Greek philosopher thousands of years ago...😮
Wonderful video with alot of creation, love and wisdom 🤩💯💚🙌
Wow, this is profound. Your channel is one of my favorite on UA-cam, incredibly thought provoking, thank you for your amazing work.
This is the original Matrix story, and it ought to be made into a movie.
Definitely
Why bother? Every movie is just another shadow on the cave wall.
You’re already free but you won’t come out of the cave that is the limited thinking mind. Now that would want a movie for sure but that does nothing for you but keep you stuck imprisoned in the cave. You just don’t know that you are already outside the cave but using the thinking mind to convince yourself you are in a cave (me in a body, in a world, in universe).
It was made into a movie. It was called, The Matrix.
@@highvibefreqzshow5967 you are not free at all
Plato's cave allegory is the original Gnostic myth.
Social realities as manufactured illusions to be decoded.
Inspiring modern cinematic versions such as "The Matrix", "13th Floor", "eXistenZ" (three flics released in 1999) and any movies created from a Philip K Dick novel.
Quite simply, fantastic episode 🙏
I just love your videos! Very illuminating and entertaining. Way the heck better than a college lecture! 👍👏👏
Even vanuit mijn eigen taal.. wat een mooi verhaal, wat de verbinding maakt tussen de basis van onze beschaving “de Griekse filosofen” en de huidige culture verhalen als the matrix en lord of the rings.
Het gevaar van het internet met verslaving aan mobieltjes, die het symbool is van de huidige grot van Plato.
Dank 🙏
Plato's cave allegory is the original Gnostic myth.
Social realities as manufactured illusions to be decoded.
Inspiring modern cinematic versions such as "The Matrix", "13th Floor", "eXistenZ" (three flics released in 1999) and any movie created from a Philip K Dick novel.
Another beautiful collaboration, keep going!
Will do. Thank you!
The holographic power grid... otherwise known as the flickering shadows on the wall....is actually created by your own consciousness, your mindstream, reflected ''out there'', based on your perceptions, beliefs and conditioning. When you truly see this, and know this in your deppest knowing, it is both profound, liberating and somewhat depressing. It takes a lot of courage to keep going, with this understanding. Things that do appear, are a type of apparition, your imprinting on empty space. It's all a construct. It's all consciousness. The divine dance of light, taking on a form. God, in disguise in all, and nothing, and everything in between. As within, so without.
"The mind that opens to a new idea, never returns to its original size." - Plato
A great quote by a great philosopher! Plato was a philosophical genius!
This wisdom is needed NOW more than ever.
Excellent video 🙌🙌 describes very well the allegory of the cave as part of the hero’s journey. Impressive images and symbols about the golden pyramids, kundalini energy, the creators dragons, the distorted shadows and the fire of healing and enlightenment.
*Amazing collab, Amazing video* 👏
I always thought that this was such a good analogy for me as Christian, in turning away from the world and finally finding the truth, Christ.
But I actually just went from one cave into another. After I dropped religion, I could actually get outta that cave. Now able to experience things in a much deeper and authentic sense.
Not sure if I'm in yet another cave now. But only continuous and honest self reflection will reveal things in due time.
I think leaving the cave is symbolic, the start of your journey toward understanding. So long as you understand that the words and concepts you use to discuss the universe are separate from the true universe then you will never find yourself back in the cave. Note the parallel between the fire in the cave and the fiery sun, both casting light to create projections that we may mistakenly identify as “reality”. That relationship is fundamental to understanding the allegory of the cave.
You're supposed to go within to find your truth. New ager since 08, but I'm stuck. You go find it and then tell me what and where? Thank you so much ❤😊
@@dawnpence3248 I think it's more a case of understanding the nature of truth. In Taoism they say that the Tao that can be named is not the true Tao. Tao is often translated as "the way" (in the sense of the way of being, the natural way of things). Once we start to discuss anything we are no longer discussing it - we are instead discussing the words and ideas that we use to understand it. Words are like signposts to ideas and ideas are symbolic of the thing they represent - the thing that is being described. Think of a grain of sand, we pick it up and we say it is a grain of sand. Then we stand on the sand and we say it's a beach. Then we look out at the water and we say it's a coast. All of these things help us better understand what we are experiencing, but the descriptions are only descriptions. Without us as the observer trying to describe what it is.. it just is. In the words of Alan Watts they are .... and we don't give it a name. Buddha says go away and come back when you no longer desire. Impossible. Desire for lack of desire is desire. Truth is piling words and symbols and ideas onto existence. The more you add the less clearly you experience its true nature, in my opinion.
Truly remarkable video. Thank you, After Skool and Agrippa's Diary!
Excellent, excellent!😊 Reminiscent of Freud's realization that his patients did not want to get well. Resistance.
When I first read Allegory of the Cave 13 years ago at age 20, my mind was truly opened. It significantly changed the way I think and allowed me to see how manipulated everyone is. Very angering. It's disgusting. Money is an illusion.
Politics is the second
Fantastic work
superb
not the first time i heard any of this. yet it was quite, a reaffirming experience to hear it once again, as we move through life’s stages. thank you for the content
Incredible. Timing perfect. Thank you.
Jiddu Krishnamurti spent his life trying to free mankind from the bondage of time and thought.
Worth checking him out for anyone who's interested.
So he was trying to free us from the Kali Yuga and our Karmic chains essentially? Ill check that out!
AGREED.
He mostly spoke about noticing the conditioning of one's mind which, yes, can be very helpful along the pathless path through the gateless gate.
Here , nice video about his life and teachings - > ua-cam.com/video/JZRxYyS8alU/v-deo.html
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At1:02 the narrator refers to the reality that has been programmed into us. This is an over simplification of how we "take-in" reality. While social programming is certainly one way to learn "reality". there are other methods for acquiring reality such as putting one's hand in a hot flame.
We call this learning the hard way.
Out of the darkness comes light 🌕
Wow! An English accent always gives the speaker an aura of intellect. I read Plato's cave when I was 12. It struck me at that time the cave is an allegory of the human eye. All our knowledge of the world is seen as projected on a tiny area in the back of the eyeball.
This is a perfect parable for anyone trying to sludge their way out of complex ptsd and also addictions.
The moment you realize that you get out of Plato's cave into a larger cave searching for the myth called " Reality".
Better a bigger cave, no?
No, not a Cave, a Womb....the word Matrix means Womb, and when we realize all the Lights in the Sky are within it...we have yet to be Born!@@dannyarcher6370
love this video. anyone knows the music they used? it’s so peaceful.
I ♥ After Skool
This a wonderful summation of an extremely important topic
I met a woman who's trulyvreach enlightenment. Absolutely incredible to see. She's very unique. And gives me a goal.
Once you exit one cave, you end up inside a bigger cave that contained the first one. The end of this cycle is when you stop seeing reality as something that needs to be taken so seriously and stop thinking in terms of truth/lie or good/evil, and just embrace life to experiment it and enjoy it.
"Life is not a problem to be solved, but a reality to be experienced" - Soren Kierkegaard
It’s funny how many people in these comments claim they have “escaped” the cave. Believing in conspiracy theories and being an obnoxious know-it-all to your friends does not mean you’re enlightened, it means you’re annoying.
No disrespect. What is the premise with this message? This concept infacts is timeless and has profound meaning. Look what happened with Socrates. If you over and understood laws, your response wouldn't have been necessary. He or she that goes through life without question is the annoying, misleading, and true ignorant one. I hope my message didn't annoying you, but get you to embark on your own heros journey.
@@mrpassion90my friend it is the perspective of the many people who see things differently than yourself.
@@kellymartin3575 good luck with that 😅
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Great videos, should be translated into other languages as well ... for everyone to understand!
You can use captions and auto translate and it has a couple of already embedded languages for users from other countries. Sadly. These thoughts always impose on the deeply rooted cultures and religious aspects of everyday human life even till today.
An extremely powerful and beautiful presentation. A must for all people with an enquiring mind.
This video is so informative that its worth watching for anyone who is interested in learning about philosophy and knowledge. Beautiful voice full of clarity giving insight into the hidden treasures of the knowledge….
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always wanted to do that
Men, defend your historical cultural wisdom.
UA-cam has demonitised Russell Brand for stepping out of the cave. At the least, Socrates got a trial.
Even Russell hides a lot of truth unfortunately.
@@JannyBesmircher What truth did he hide? UA-cam grandstands, but they have no moral grounds to stand on, they were complicit in the Democrats violations of the Nuremberg Code. I like Brand a lot, but as for the cave, he's only gotten close enough to the entrance to see the sunlight leaking through. He has a long journey to make it far enough to actually stand in the sunlight, much less peer upwards at the Sun.
@@JannyBesmircherwhat truth does he hide?
@@thehandliesthandlewell probably never know,the truth they reveal won't be it that's for sure
He's a 3mason
Beautifully put thank you so very much. One of the most enlightening videos i have ever seen.
Really wonderful. If all education was presented in this manner we would find much higher acceptance of complex subjects
8:28 promitheas in Greek is supplier. He was actually the one how brought fire to humans. Also the Plato's cave isn't as much an allegory but a real fact that's taking place through the times: some 'clever' People are taking advantage of the supplies they and only hold and know how to use, just to fool all the others to believe what they make them to belive (illusionists), and get the 'power' of controling consiousnesses, they 'rule' the world kinda... The sad thing is that most of prisoners, even if manage to brake the 'chains' and try to escape,as they're going to the real world they stopped and convinced from the illusionists that the real big game is to become one of them, and not to just get their shit out ofvthe cave and enjoy the real world instead. Thus they become one of them enjoying 'people masses manipulation', and finally getting some serious psychological disorders (megalomania, narcissism, many others). Greetings from Athens
They.broke one set of chains,but never left the cave to see the sun. Their light is darkness. Love and Truth are One in Christ the Logos (or Word of God) and Son of God, made flesh.
@@LostArchivist obviously either you are on substances or you're hardly dogmatic on religion. So your illusionists you believe in, are playing with the figure of Jesus Christ to manipulate your consiousness in your 'cave'. If you wana ret rid of these chains you've got to figure out every single phrase you use and hear, if it really make sense, even if it makes your heart jump when u hear it or use it. For example: love and thruth are some completely different values (the first has to do with emotions, and the second with the perspective of 'reality'), thus only a man with some kind of brain disorder should believe this two values are the same. Don't believe anything is been spoken hardly.. keep it low, challenge anything, even what you already have been taught, and you will be surprised of the real shape of the world and people you're living in and among.
@@ΘοδωρηςΝτουσης Love proper is an act of the will, not an emotion. It is to desire it as a good. To know about a thing, one must desire to do so. To properly desire a thing, one must know truth about it at the very least, its existence. To will something requires knowledge of it and to know requires the desire pursuited to seek knowledge.
Love and truth requires the other to be coherent and extant.
Never been this early. Feels wrong.
Yo same. I’m never up this late and a new video appeared! 🍀☘️🌼😊💛
The problem is that, in real world, enlightenment isn't so cut-and-dry. If enlightenment means to be exposed to the truth, then how can anyone claim to be truly enlightened? No one knows the full story about how & why the universe exists or why we're here. From a macroscopic perspective, no human has ever left the cave. We're all just sitting around and speculating amongst ourselves about the countless unknown truths of existence.
What's is truth if not your own.
The first mistake is to assume the cave is outside yourself. There is only the truth of self experience, you cannot experience anything as other or else you'd be consumed by the universe/God.
Going outside of the cave is not knowing the truth about the world but rather questioning everything you have been told to believe in or do. Finding your own truth.
There is no such thing as total enlightenment, or somebody that is 100 percent correct. The best we can do is make reasonable judgements based on what information we have.
Enlightenment is becoming Christ, everything else is illusion.