Why Everybody Hated Barry Bonds
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This is a no shit story. Lived in Pittsburgh when I was a kid. My neighbor was Mike Dunne, and the guy was a legend. I used to watch his dog when he had a long trip and his wife was awesome to me as “the paper boy”. Mike would give me tickets and take me into the clubhouse. Took me into clubhouse when I was a 13 yr old kid to meet the players. Basically, the MOST amazing thing a baseball kid could experience. He brought me over to Barry and tapped him on the shoulder and Barry turned around and said to Mike, at the time the NL Rookie pitcher of the year, and told him to get that “f’ing kid out of my face”. I balled like a 13 yr old kid would. Bobby Bonilla came around the corner and picked me up, shook me, and said “kid, don’t worry, that guys an asshole”. Then gave me a bat and batting glove. Barry Bonds is an ass**le! Always has been and always will be.
I love that the Mets are still paying Bonilla like 20 after retirement
Haha damn not u crying 🤣
Crying like a baby at 13?
He sounds like Michael Jordan
😂
They just hated Barry because they couldn't pull off an earring like him
This is true
This is correct
Correct
The girls did.
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Surprised this makes no mention of him insisting on wearing Willie Mays' retired number 24 when he signed with the Giants, with them only rescinding because they received more mail within 2 weeks of signing the agreement than they had during the entire history of the team
Retired numbers is a retarded American tradition. It's way more impactful to pass your number to the next talented player. Look at the number 7 for man united.
@@chrisbutler1668 Ol Barry is still on the way to the Hall of Fame. Probably will never get there.
@chrisbutler1668
While i agree that bonds aint some nice guy seeing as Willie mays is family it would have made sense if mays OK bonds to wear 24.
@@chrisbutler1668having two legends with the same retired number is moot when you consider the Yankees had not just Yogi Berra and Bill Dicky, but also Mariano Rivera along with the leaguewide Jackie Robinson.
@@GLee-oe3op Rivera was a League mandated exception because he had the number before the League retired it. Several players wore #42 after the retirement because of this exception. It's just that Rivera played longer than everyone else who had the number at the time, so he was the last one wearing #42. In fact, it was Ken Griffey Jr. (#24), who specifically asked if he could wear #42 on the first Jackie Robinson Day to honor him, which the League allowed. So the very next year, it became tradition across baseball for everyone to wear it on that day.
But the Yankees have so many numbers retired anyway that they themselves are an exception to the rule of retired numbers. But like I wrote above, they did refuse David Wells' request to unretire Babe Ruth's number 3 and give it to him after he threw that perfect game.
Pre-steroids, he was a legit first-ballot HOF. He had the patience and hand-eye coordination to be one greatest ever. He didn't need steroids.
I think we should bring back steroids personally especially if it aided players with injuries into their 30’s so they could play longer if they wanted
He did to get 72&700
He certainly did not need steroids and no doubt would first ballot HoF.
However he likely would not have broken the home run records without steroids.
Unfortunately steroids were part of sports in the 1990s. I know several guys on my high school baseball and football who were taking 'roids' in the are 90s.
@@renlysotherlover294 You're taking away playing from other people to do that. Now it's a race to the bottom of how much you're willing to fuck up your body to play.
@@jayrod9979this is my take too, don’t take away from the player, he was still great, likely would have been just as good as other current greats though not in a league of his own like he was with steroids
Statistically speaking, Barry Bonds is the #1 position player of all time in terms of being the most quintessential and record-setting 5-tool player (i.e., fielding, throwing, stealing, average, power) that the MLB has ever seen. Way back at the end of the 1993 season, Barry had already won 3 MVPs (’90, ’92, ’93), tied for the most in MLB history (making him a clear hall of famer already), only to be broken by himself by garnering a staggering 7 MVPs by the end of his career. Importantly, the very earliest time at which Barry may have been implicated in steroid use was not until after the 1998 season. By 1998, while he was still clearly a natty putting up natty numbers (albeit the best of all nattys), he also became the only player in MLB history with 400+ home runs and 400+ stolen bases, which still holds true to this day. Let that sink in. Furthermore, despite always being a potent power hitter, Bonds always hit for average and struck out far less than most of his power-hitting counterparts. He hit over .300 11 times and-aside from his rookie year-never struck out more than 100 times in a year (averaging only 83 strikeouts a year). Moreover, by this time in 1998, he had also won 8 gold gloves, the most by any left fielder in MLB history to this day. Finally, as far as that exclusive 400/400 club that I first mentioned, for which he is still the only member in MLB history? Well, he ended his career with 500+ home runs (763, all-time record) and 500+ stolen bases (514), a feat that leaves all other players in history 100+ further behind and for which he would have easily completed even if he remained as a natty until the end. Even though I grew up in Chicago and now live in Boston, Barry Bonds was my favorite player back as a kid and will remain my favorite player of all time by far. Although the Red Sox are now my home team ever since becoming a Bostonian 8+ years ago when I moved here for a position as a Harvard Postdoctoral Neuroscientist. On that note, I plan to launch my channel later this year and although most content will focus on neuroscience and biology, I will also focus on data-driven and science-based videos on some of my passions such as baseball. So feel free to sub in advance. Cheers.
I totally agree. He belong in the hall and is the best I ever seen. Also yeah I subbed to your channel cause I think your perspective on baseball aside from science stuff would be cool
Thank you! These are the type of of stats that need to be looked at when talking hof votes.
Barry Bonds was a terrible defensive player. I'm not sure if this is something that developed over time or was reflective of his attitude in general, but for most of his career he was a liability in the outfield.
@@avrivah1101 he had 8 gold gloves 😂
Harvard education and dumb enough to like Barry Bonds. What a world.
The fact the pirates jumped Barry is hilarious lol
He's the perfect example of "if you have a problem with everyone around you, the problem is you."
not really. everyone use to think the earth was flat so who had the issue? the earth didn't lol
@@GuidoLuzzi the reality of the earth's structure and interpersonal relationships are two very different things 😆
or its literal racism. like, why the fuck else would all of his family be treated the way they were by the monolithically white press of the 50's-70's? in the modern day, marshawn lynch has had a similar reaction to forced press as bonds did then, and it is 100% reasonable to go off on someone if they're breaking a boundry and forcing you to be uncomfortable, especially if youre in a tense environment already. yeah, the pizza shit is insane, and if he actually threw someones gift on the ground that is too, but HIS TEAMMATES BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF (LIKELY) ONE OF THEIR FEW BLACK TEAMMATES BECAUSE HE WAS JOGGING TO HOMEPLATE. how this isnt blatantly racially motivated discriminatory behavior to anyone else in a post-blm America proves we dont fucking change. We dont fucking care. Take a critical eye to our own past, and the widespread mistreatment of minorities, and understand the existence of subconscious cognitive bias, and you can see so fucking clearly that White People In America Do Not Care About Black People, and that is putting it fucking NICELY. and i'm WHITE.
@@GuidoLuzziPeople have known the Earth wasn't flat since antiquity.
The GOAT though.
Someone bragging about how they haven’t changed at all since high school may be the biggest red flag I’ve ever seen lol.
Exactly.
True
Realest thing I ever heard
To you and the other 3 dummies. 😂😂😂
Naa he just real; doesn't have to fake it, to make it
As someone who experienced this dude when he came into the restaurant I worked at once, I completely understand this video. The guy was a horrible person to deal with in just a couple of hours. Pitched a Karen tantrum that he had to pay $4.99 for a little souvenir item for his daughter. You can tell a lot about a person by how they treat their waiter. 🤷🏻♂️
Facts
Yeah there is no way that’s true, millionaires don’t care about 5 dollars
I doubt this legit. He's rich as hell, why would he get mad about a few dollars?
SO DAMNED TRUE. It should be a requirement in life that a person has to wait tables for a year, then they’d understand.
Pay your taxes, and tip your servers people…
@CHADCONTEXT because some people like bonds have a gigantic ego and think they deserve things. If you think rich people don't complain about petty things, including small money deals, then you haven't met many rich people.
The thing is Bonds would almost certainly be in the HOF right now, even with the blatant steroid use, if he was slightly more personable than a rabid dog and I don't mean to malign rabid dogs.
That Barry Bond is not in the HoF for steroids but Cap Anson is still in the HoF for banning N*ggers (yes I am using that word. on purpose to offend as much as possible. because it makes my point. Even saying the N word is worse to us than saying "if you aint cheating, you aint trying" Being offended at my use of the hard-R N word and using that to disagree with me is the height of everything wrong with Post-Modern Thinkers and their influence on How we treat history.) makes me sick.
More than any other player, Cap Anson bears the responsibility for black players not being allowed in MLB. Some other players may have tried, probably would have tried, and did before Cap said No..... but no one was as influential as Cap Anson.
I will fight this fight as dirty as I can until we start talking about Our OWN participation in the Staroid Era (see what i did there? stars? get it? ok, i'll stop)
"Barry In OR Cap Out. There is no middle ground."
join the fight J
Blatant steroid use? When did he use?
@@TL23541999-2007. You don’t gain 50 pounds of muscle in 100 days at age 35 without steroids. Your slugging percentage doesn’t dramatically increase in your later 30s on its own and your skull and feet don’t get larger without HGH.
@@TL2354you’re joking right??😂
Here is the thing....there is absolutely a "THE most blatant" in the list of steroid positive baseball players. Uh....Mark muthafuckin McGuire lol guys like Barry, A-rod, even Sammy Sosa but he is right on the edge of being blatant...Barry Bonds is absolutely a hall of famer. This isn't even a debate. If not for the media. Even with the steroids.
Nobody needed to make Barry look bad. He did that all on his own.
Exactly.. Couldn't have said it better myself.
Or maybe America in the 90s wasn't ready to accept a black player as the best. A media trial creates an atmosphere of hate, a pile on happens. And then he starts fucking up.
@@lolumoNope, you can take your race baiting and go elsewhere with that BS. This has nothing to do with Race and everything to do with dudes actions. There have been plenty of black HOF baseball players from before, during and after the Bonds era. smh
@@lolumowhat would you say then about Griffey?
@@davidmata4786 Just see how the news turns on Othani after one intake, while Judge gets everything forgiven.
7:55 “I wouldn’t have that guy on my team for all the oil in the Persian golf” 💀💀. That is absolutely ruthless. Never knew Barry was this bad.
The fact that Barry Bonds is proud of not changing since high school, tells you all you need to know about him. You're not supposed to be the same at 40 as you were at 15. You're supposed to grow and mature.
@@stevenholmes4324 Nope. That's not what he said. His words were clear.
@@Defx10you are beyond wrong lol.
@@johnwiz4460 I'm not though lol.
My meat hog's gotten at least an inch and half longer since turning 15. Totes not the same... way may grown and matured.
@@Defx10 I agree with you but I disagree. People should grow and be better than they were, but when you grow up as a black American whose family has been demonized and mistreated, there is resentment. When whites around you treat you like you're expendable, even though you're valuable, there is hostility and animosity. I think Bonds may be a dick. I don't know him so I can't confirm. I think he mistreated people and did shitty things, but I don't think he's completely to blame. The media and the fans of baseball are at fault also.
My sister asked barry bonds for his autograph back in the nineties in the chiropractic office waiting room, and he told her fifty dollars
Stop lion! 😂😂😂
Damn, his attitude sounds unbearable!
Well yeah that ball would eventually go for thousands if it got authenticated, that’s why
I would have charged more. 😂😂😂
goat thats 500 now
Way back in 91, when he was the Pirates, they were at old riverfront stadium. He came over to us kids and signed my Reds hat and my brother's t-shirt that he had on his back. He totally made our day. When I think of it, we must have caught him on a good day.
So that’s cool cause not everyone has seen that side of him. That’s rare.
Lucky you
It was called Three Rivers Stadium
STEROIDS
@@Amero2323 in Cincinnati?
It's likely that Bonds is a sociopath. His talent made him irreplaceable, which is unfortunate for everyone that had to work with him.
Similar to Lance Armstrong, except Bonds is overtly aggressive where Armstrong is manipulative.
How Armstrong manipulative?
@@victornewman-jc6lp according to testimony, he bullied, coerced, and terrorized the people around him into doing what he wanted and lying for him.
Not simular at all. Lance tested positive, Barry never did
@@dagenmoreland3777 oh! guess he was clean then, my bad!
Sociopath or passive narcissist.
Bonds and Griffey had opposite mindsets on the priority of the teams moral and progress.
And the funniest thing is that they became friends.
As someone who grew up in the bay and watched Barry Bonds growing up I had no idea he was so controversial (besides the steroids thing)
Same, i grew up a Giants fan (i was too young to watch Bonds in San Fran) but my naive younger self obviously thought barry was a badass. But later on i learned how controversial he was and i was pretty shocked and a little crushed that he was such a dickhead lol.
youre too young then
Read Game of Shadows. The man is straight up evil.
Then you must’ve been watching him when you were like 5 any older you would’ve known bonds was an a hole
@@david-468 yeah I was actually haha
Not even two minutes in but that quote about him being the same since high school is all that needs to be said.
If you don't cringe about things you did and how you acted in high school, you're either lying, you are the very rare exception to the rule and were already ahead of your age, or you're like Barry and still an immature child. You should always be growing, maturing, and working on yourself regardless of age.
An "immature child" with the all time homeruner record. Where's your record? Don't have one huh
True 👍🏻
@CJ-vz5bl Hey look, another immature child.
@@CJ-vz5blfound Barry
@@CJ-vz5blfound Barry's burner 😭😭😭
Read the book "Game of Shadows" by Mark Fainaru - Wada. It goes into great detail about the entire BALCO scandal and the masking agents he got from BALCO to pass drug tests. It also talks about what an absolute asshole he was to his teammates - having his own personal locker room, not flying with the team for away games and not appearing in team pictures didn't help.
Watch the video when he hit # 715 and passed Babe Ruth. The entire team stayed in the dugout and didn't greet him or celebrate with him when he crossed home plate.
He really injected himself into everyone’s lives
You will be punished.
@Sub if you are against antifa and BLM Look ashamed.
STEROIDS!
I will continue to EXPOSE these STEROID LOSERS!
Stay natural buddy!
He really juiced up the game
Players and teammates hated him because of his arrogance. His perceived sense of entitlement. He was truly gifted as a baseball player though. That being said, I believe the attention given to fellow dopers McGwire and Sosa were the reason he started doping. He was head and shoulders more talented than either of them. Yet he was being overshadowed by their HR numbers. He couldn't handle that. So he started using too. And deny it as many times as he will he did it. Your hat size, and shoe size doesn't increase when you're in your 30s.
Indeed the reason Griffey was the player of the 90s (Frank Thomas being a close second in terms of hobby popularity) was that both were more likeable and friendly to the fans...this was especially true of Cal Ripken, Jr has he approached Lou Gehrig's record. Barry, if you want fans and the media to like you, you gotta be respectful and kind to them on a continuous regular basis!
Im still honestly not sure what his motivation is, what you said is my first thought, but the documentary makes a good point of mentioning how that was always the case in his career even early on. And it would seem he decided pretty early on that validation from the media was never going to be a thing he got and treated them accordingly. But ... he wouldnt be the first guy to lash out at the thing he really wants so who knows.
Both of mine did without steroids,etc.
@@JohnSmith-zw8vp For some reason Griffey seems to get a pass in the doping allegations. Those hamstring injuries are consistent with PED use.
@@brianc9036 Because he HASN'T doped. THAT'S why.
He hit the pinnacle, the zenith of hitting. Nobody ever got into the zone like Barry. He hit better than anyone on the planet ever for a few years.
Didn't Ichiro have better numbers in every category other than HRs of course? The whole sad part about this is that the guy didn't even fucking need roids, he was already special and already one of the best hitters of all time.
@@ruggie.74 no...just more hits. ichiro (love him and tbh hate bonds) also almost never walked so his obp isn't great for how great of a player/hitter he was. on the flip side bonds almost NEVER got any good pitches to hit but also never missed when he got a mistake. have not seen anybody before or since get pitched pitched around so much.
no one ever cheated as much
@@ruggie.74are you fucking kidding me? You can't compare a BB gun to a rocket launcher bro. That bomb off Percival in Game 2 passed Saturn in 2020 and is on its way to Uranus dude
@@billyhill7630bullshit.
I like Barry. In fact, I hope they have Ezra Miller play him in the documentary. He’s a Barry-type of guy too.
😂 wtf
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Ezra miller playing a black guy what a fuckin dumb take
Is Barry also accused of every sexual crime in existence lol
@@Maltesfilm Was the Flash?
Born and raised in Dominican Republic when I was a kid playing baseball every kid like me was trying to have the same batting style as Barry Bonds.
What style is that? Generally to hit the long ball you have to swing the bat upwards rather than level or downwards. That's simple physics and stuff Ted Williams preached.
Really? When I was growing up, we were all trying to imitate Ken Griffey Jr’s batting style.
I'm friends with an ex White Sox player. He asked Barry to sign a jersey for a charity and Bonds said, "Why would I sign a shirt for some white kid's charity?"
Yeah sureeee bud
@Shewantsmesobad
Ive heard that same story from a MLB player on a podcast, forget who. I know he said this when he was in pittsburgh
Unfortunately a lot of black athletes have this mentality.
Yeah I’m friends with Barry Bonds and he told me your story was a lie. See how easy it is to make shit up?
My teeth were on fire and I asked Barry Bonds to piss in my mouth. He wouldn’t do it
Bonds: "I hate the media, leave me alone!"
Also Bonds: *Does literally everything possible to draw attention to himself and piss people off to the point where multiple teammates hate him.*
Bonds: "I don't know why the media has it out for me, I never did anything."
He never took steroids
Edf cus he didn't the media forced him set him up even when he just wanted to be left alone watch an NFL game once and youd be shocked football fans we like REAL confident charismatic fun men not "class acts" that shits goofy to us we ain't a fan of nobody who takes disrespect and dont do shit fr in football we love our koud coky tough guy players y'all just want all ur guys to be bitches
@@kevinmendoza5328 Bro come on if Barry Bonds didn't take steroids, OJ never killed anybody
@@kevinmendoza5328 💀
Bonds hated the media because they treated his dad like shit.
The steroid usage is much more forgivable than the way he treated other human beings.
Fuck all that, the man could hit. Everything else is forgivable.
Everyone around him growing up was an asshole as well haha
I dunno man, Barry was usually pretty good with SF fans.
@@13AECA the man could hit, doesn’t mean he wasn’t a god awful human being. Both can be true. And doesn’t make it forgivable
About 60% of MLB players take PEDs, so to hate him for that is silly.
Other significant reasons people hated Barry Bonds
In SF
Refused to appear at Fan-fasts
Refused to appear in annual team photos
opted out of MLB collective bargaining for the purpose of receiving increased royalties, in effect denying $$ for the players association
refused to allow his likeness in MLB video games
Complete locker room, cancer, demanding, free lockers, Barcalounger, and large screen TV for his use only.
Insisted on, using only his personal trainers, not the teams, and demanded the team provide his uniforms weeks in advance so they could be sent to his personal tailor.
Gosh, it’s almost like he thought being the best baseball player ever entitled him to special treatment. How unprecedented . What a stuck-up jerk.
Oh my God his own personal trainers???? That's horrible what a complete locker room cancer. And Tom Brady does the exact same and is treated like Americas super hero. Gtfo its pro sports. Everyone holding another man to their own personal ideas of what he should be doing is not what America is supposed to be about. He can pursue his happiness in any freakin way he wants. If it runs you the wrong way when somebody walks to the beat of their own drum then turn the music off.
So what? He's Barry bonds he deserves more than the average player. If it wasn't for him the mlb wouldn't even exist. He's a baseball God. Lighten up
@@Jeff-sp7bg nah f that get off his nuts
No why tf would he wanna see a bunch of fans who hate him majority
According to former teammate Julian Tavarez Barry pulled Salomon Torres out of the shower because he was using his shower that instigated Tavarez hitting him on purpose when he faced him.
Punctuation is your friend.
barry bonds and jon jones have the same exact career just in 2 different sports
I would think other fighters respect Jones way more than Bond's peers ever did
Eh jon jones is the goat and made a comeback after all his downfalls. People love jones now. And is respected in the community from everything we see
@erickiyoshiphillips2323 Jon Jones respected in the community?? 😂 Negative. He could only dream of being respected like GSP, Fedor, etc. His steroid use will always come up, negating his GOAT status. Not to mention his hit & run with a pregnant woman.
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@@peltimies2469 facts
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@@peltimies2469 that’s your opinion
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I didn’t hear about the hate during the pirates years. he was great in Pittsburgh and Bonilla. That loss to Atlanta was a shit day. SId Bream with the slide into home ruined my night. There was a dent in my wall from that one.
One of the best players ever but not the one of the best people. The more disliked he was the better he played
That was the juice.
Except in the playoffs he was garbage.
@alwillk From what I saw he was great in the post season in 02. Holds records in the postseason that year. The other years not so much but he made up for it. Dusty Baker lost that series for the Giants no doubt about it I'm still bitter lol
In Pittsburgh he cost his team the pennant in a playoff game against Atlanta back in 1992.
2 things, one Barry without steroids was pretty much a HOF guaranteed. He prolly would’ve won many more mvps, gold gloves, silver sluggers etc.
2nd my dad told me that Bonds was always stuck up and a jerk. He said that multiple times he tried to get Barry’s attention with either getting a ball or getting a jersey signed, but he still ignored him even when he was less than 20 feet away. This was also back in Bond’s steroid era.
Everyone has and is on steroids ever since people realized that testosterone helps with physical performance
Barry Bond has his own licensing company, he was instructed to direct the fans to go through that company to get signatures. He is simply following his own brand's rules of not signing anything outside of officially sanctioned events.
Your dad was "always trying to get Barry bonds attention." Think about that. A grown man obsessed and stalking another grown man then calling him a jerk. How weird and bizarre!
@@Jeff-sp7bg welcome to the sports world? Also were you born yesterday?
@@hdjono3351 yes I was.
"The pirates where emerging as one of the best teams in the league."
Something you wont hear for a long time
hey they got Oneill Cruz tho. that guys a freak athlete
@@poindextertunes no discipline tho, i think hes gonna have a javier baez career. one rlly good year and then a bunch of avg ones
Not unless Robert Nutting sells the team or turns into David Glass.
@@poindextertunes One guy cant carry the whole team, just look at the Angels
They haven’t won a divisional title since 92. Barry left them and they’ve never recovered.
I haven't watched a season of baseball in probably 17 years or more but this channel is really building that love and appreciation for the game again. Can't wait for this season to start! Thanks for the content man!
I'm not watching baseball, football, basketball nor hockey because in a few yrs because almost all of them support this Left wing, Anti Christian, Pro Child Mutilation, Pro Biden, Anti American Marxist Agenda! Disrespecting the American Flag and National Anthem!!!
right? I used to love and play baseball, fell out of love for it and havent played nor watched since i was 11, 20 now. the last few weeks ive been watching this account and ive really started to get back into loving baskeball
Wow it’s crazy. I literally could have said the same thing.
Oh please. Baseball can’t (at least COULDN’T) keep up with adult onset ADD 😆…Maybe the new pitch clock will change that.
Him rocking up to a high school to train and parking his car in a teachers reserved spot is peak Barry Bonds lmao
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“The pirates were becoming the best team in the game.” - last time these words will be spoken by man.
Lol.
I cried when Sid Bream scored. I was 10. Little did I know I'd never see them win an actual pennant game again
The curse of Barry Lamar Bonds
Barry Roids
Those late 80’s/early 90’s Pirates had some real talent. They just choked in the playoffs three straight years
Barry Bonds is the GOAT man. He is the reason why im a baseball fan. Crazy how they villainized these 90s superstars
I got to see Barry Bonds last Splash hit in AT&T park when he was on the giants. Dope ass memory. Shoutout my grandpa, he used to take us to games when we was young. As a kid I loved Barry bonds. Had his SF Jersey and everything haha
Insane stat- Bonds has more intentional walks than a combined EVERY player whoever played for the Tampa Bay Rays EVER. That’s EVERYONE from the Rays combine from 1998- present.
Insane.
Holy cow i didn't know this stat. I know the stat if you took his hr total and made it into outs then he would have a better ops/slugging than David ortiz.
That’s so wild 😂
Saw on another that the league offices made sure no team signed Barry. He suggested that they didn’t want him to get 3,000 hits, (2935) and 800 home runs, (762) I don’t doubt it one bit.
He could have played well into his late 40s. He gets on-base, and that is probably one the most valuable skill a hitter could do. I hate to say it, but, 'roided Bonds could have easily hit 800 hrs mark.
@@flipsolo Let's not forget they made a movie based on Barry's stats. Nothing else mattered except getting on base according to the A's and their flopped Money Ball strategy at that time. There was no one available cheaper in the league that year than Barry and even the cheap A's didn't pay him.
What a beast. Very few people can pull off a good season with the controversy that surrounded him. He would pull off great seasons. Barry #1
I grew up watching Barry. Love the guy.
Probably because you never met him.
Griffey was more fun to watch.
Dusty Baker holding Barry Bonds and Jeff Kent to only one public fight is a big accomplishment.
In "Intangibles: Unlocking the Science and Soul of Team Chemistry" by Joan Ryan, both Bonds and Kent reveal that their relationship was a bit more nuanced than what had been reported in the media. It's a good read about these Giants stars.
Considering that, he should be in the Hall Of Fame without the customary wait period.
7:53 so not as bad as Nagasaki?
No. Better than Hiroshima but worse than Nagasaki
Barry’s dad was a very good player and wealthy so it makes sense Barry had a huge chip on his shoulder raised by a millionaire and then talented too! What a jerk never liked that guy
Bobby Bonds was not a victim of circunstances, he was affluent enough to start his own biz and capable of instilling virtue to his sons.
That's why we see Barry Bonds in the vein of an ancient Rome gladiator, brute and devoid of what they refrerred as "Virtue Civitas".
Thatz crazy his body in pittsburgh vs sf he looks way different went from a cf to.a 1b
I was born in ‘96 so I always grew up hearing about Barry Bonds….Pops was heavy into sports….now that I’m older and watching this video I never knew how much of a MENACE he actually was😭😆
(yea-yea nobody asked I know that😘😘😘)
As a Braves fan I can confirm we hated him and jeered him any chance we got at the Ted.
By far thee best baseball player ever to play the game. The only 6 tool player...eye at the plate. The only 7 time MVP. By far the most walks and home runs. Can you imagine hitting .370 with 46 home runs and 198 walks and then.362 with 45 home runs and 232 walks?????????? lol
This is a prime example of how all the talent in the world isn't enough to make you a truly top tier team player. Baseball is a team sport so being the best player doesn't mean much if your team doesn't like you. VanSlyke got paid because he was a good player and good teammate. Life lesson here kids, don't get hung up on being the best player, be the best you who can play
He carried Pittsburgh and San Francisco for years into the playoffs it just didn't have enough to make it over the final hump
You don’t understand baseball and just sound stupid🤣🤣 vanslyke was paid more because he was in the mlb longer. Barry was still under team control so they could pay him whatever they wanted🤣
The true "Greats" make those around them better, either by example, by imparting wisdom or inspiring them. Barry had zero interest in any of that. That's why he has zero world series champion rings.
@@macgp44he has zero rings because his team couldn’t take advantage of him having a 2.000 ops in his only World Series, no need to overthink it lol
This is why Jeter was so great
It doesn’t sound like the media had to try too hard to make bonds come across as a villain
His daughter ran track at a school in the same district as mine growing up. Barry would always be there supporting her, and he was always kind to anyone who went up to him to talk. I don’t have single bad thing to say about the man. A very misunderstood character.
Agreed. Hes just a very private person and when someone violates his personal space he lets him know in his usual way, which many people do not like.
There has been plenty of incidents of him being surly with people...
I've heard similar things said about Whitey Bulger.
@@davidtsang4949 How do we know those people weren’t antagonistic? How do we know those stories are even real? It’s not like I knew the dude personally; he was just another parent at the track meet. I remember him as soft-spoken, genuinely kind man.
Nah, he was a colossal douche
Talk about family. His father was a baseball player, godfather Willie Mays a legend and Hall of Famer, and Reggie Jackson Mr. October... Part of the reasons he was given so much flak. Barry was literally born in a baseball family, He didn't need PEDs to be that good. Damn!!
It would have been cool if Barry played in Japan when no American teams would sign him after his last year. He would have had a monster season over there
I doubt very much that the Japanese were willing to condone the not-so-honourable mindset of Barry Bonds.
9:49 lol i love how unfazed this reporter is and hits him back with "YOUR slump" and Barry knew he couldn't do or say anything
Haha yeah man reporters are bad ass dude. they’re not leeches at all. they do incredible things man yeah
Huehuehuehuehuehue
Ha ha got eem!!!!!!!!!
@@SJeffco?
@@SJeffco You're definitely the type of guy that would be like "sorry Barry daddy :( I didn't mean to say your slump Daddy"" it was a funny moment by the reporter, meat muncher.
holy shit barry bonds ran at my high schools field i learned that from this video thats pretty sick. hell yeah screw my teacher bonds can take that spot any day
Haha that’s so funny but true. That sign said Ruth did it on hotdogs and beer. I challenge any player today to hit a three home runs in a game on a diet of fried food and hotdogs and playing every game either hungover or drunk. Oh and they have to chain smoke cigarettes or cigars too
Hold up 5:30 he was not fucking forced out of Pitt, the Giants signed him out of free agency for 6 yrs/42m making him the highest paid position player in the league the day after signing the deal to build PacBell Park. Peter Magowan, may he continue to burn in hell had been holding the City hostage along with The Sporting Green for two years crying poor and demanding public funding for the new stadium and threatening to move the team to St Pete, FL.
THE SPLIT SECOND he got the funding he got on the horn & inked the deal for Bonds and made it clear Will Clark, the heart and soul of the club was now expendable. He knew exactly what he was in for with Barruh Bones and the two of them were made for each other, so there's no need to exaggerate reality here.
Mmm-kay?
Forced out? No, but if you’re an MVP and gold glove winner and you’re getting paid 40% less than another outfielder, clearly the Pirates were sending a message
@@nathanchildress5596 don't be wELL aCkTuaLLy guy. I know it's hard
Bonds sounds like a great heel
He is.
Literally
He’s the Randy Orton of baseball, the legend killer or legend record breaker
Black Ty Cobb
I will continue to EXPOSE these STEROID LOSERS!
Stay natural buddy!
Not everybody hated him. Let's go Giants! Loved watching that dude hit.
Went to a Reds Giants game at Riverfront in 1996. We sat behind the plate in the green seats, which were the second deck. Everytime Barry batted I loudly did the Barrry Barrrry chant. He hits a homerun, crosses the plate and pointed up at me.
Tried to get his autograph after a game at Candlestick in the early 90s. We were driving out of the park & I looked over & saw him. My parents let me jump out of the car to ask him. When I got to his car & asked, he just rolled up the window & drove off. The guy is a dick, but one of the best players to play.
All bc he didn’t sign your ball? Haha who cares
@El when you're a 10 year old kid & your favorite player does that to you, it's kinda crushing. I don't care now. He's still one of the best players of all time & I actually have an autographed ball & card from him.
@@OriginalRyan so why you complaining you got your ball lol
@El Wow, some baseball fan you are. Do you even like this game?
@@wildsmiley coach it
Only a narcissist would blame the media for bringing him down instead of taking accountability for his actions.
Ironic every one hated him, growing up he was always my favorite player lol. Still is in terms of retired players.
Cuz he's black.
Say what you will about Bonds, he’s the best player in the last 50 years!
You HAVE TO DO A VID ABOUT THE 2004 sox PLS it will get so many views
Bonds is Jon Jones of Baseball. He was great but ruined it all by himself.
Both guys GOATs on paper, but did things to taint their legacies so that many fans won’t consider them
despite their flaws both are greats in my eyes
@@phxmaster9684 cheating*
@@kjlkjjjk who doesn’t cheat? Probably ppl that don’t make/stay on the team.
Ruined what? both legends. And their accomplishment and anecdotes will only make sure their legacies survive long term. We remember and talk about very very few of the greats of anything. But the Greats that were also rouges, are immortal it seems.
Not a bad take at all. The media culture back then was pretty toxic.
If we couple Bonds "egomania" with the fury of the press it can have a startling effect on people who read the news.
Players, coaches, and fans
It still is, tbh.
Having gone to on average 40 games a year in Arizona back then, I don't remember ONE single time our fans booed because we walked him. Not sure where the narrator got that information from, but it's totally inaccurate. Buck Showalter once walked him with the bases loaded, and we didn't boo that either.
Just because you don't remember it doesn't mean it didn't happen. Bonds played at Arizona State so he had fans there before anywhere else. And you can look the game up that they booed at. Sept 12, 2004. He hit his 699th HR and they walked him the next time so he wouldn't get 700 and the crowd booed. It's likely here on yt.
Lots of Gnat fans showed up to our home games back then too, so very doubtful many dback fans would boo when they walked him.
The news industry has always been dirty in a world in which most people care only about status, instant gratification, and novelty, and in a world where relatively few people have any substantial intellectual curiosity. And the news industry has always singled out easy targets to deflect attention from its own systemic dishonesty with the sports media sometimes being as guilty of dishonesty as any media, and not just in baseball. No reporter covering the worst NBA team can write 82 times that the team he/she covers played terribly and didn't play NBA caliber defense without getting fired since no one wants to read that 82 times. Thus it's often in the interests of sports writers to make the bad teams they cover look much better than they are in order to keep their jobs since if no one cares about the teams they cover they may soon be out of a job. As a result sports writers often write that the NBA team they cover played well even when anyone who was at the game saw otherwise.
Yes Barry Bonds brought a lot of media abuse on himself by needlessly trying much too hard to be a "badass." And that is on him. Yet the sports media sanctimoniously treated him very unfairly. For years the sports media willfully ignored steroid abuse in baseball and other pro sports since "no one cared." Then parents groups forced Congress to force Major League Baseball to change its steroids policy or threaten that otherwise Congress itself would change steroid policy in ways Major League Baseball and the Players Association would not like. Then the same sports media that had ignored steriod abuse for so many years accused many baseball players of "cheating" for using steroids at a time when ignoring or even encouraging steroid abuse was policy, as if oh sure the sports media always covered sports honestly. But seriously, even the most dishonest pro players have been a lot more professional than the sports media. At least all pro players are good at what they do which is a lot more than many sports writers can claim.
Thanks for telling us the story of Bonds before steroids, it’s not a story often told even though he had a HOF-worthy career before the roids. And a HOF-temper too.
Look at his 98 season especially the advanced metrics, his OPS was unreal but not a soul was paying attention
I think that's the reason why Bonds was hated. He's already a Hall of Famer before he even retired. The steroids basically destroyed any credibility and reputation that he managed to accomplish.
I don’t care what anybody says, Barry Bonds is one of the best MLB players.
Not one of. The best
despite him being on roids late into his career he was genuinely a great player, just tarnished because he took steroids
Barry Bonds had a HoF career. Then he took steroids, and had another HoF career.
EVER!!!
THE best
How does your shoe size grow 2 sizes?
Its my birthday and I couldnt ask for anything better than a new BDE video
Happy birthday
Hey, happy birthday dude, have a nice day, eat some cake :)
Happy birthday, it's my birthday as well :)
Cocaine and hookers would be better
“Ruth did it on hotdogs and beer” Ruth was shooting up horse steroids for breakfast 💀💀😭😭
No, no..he did do it on hotdogs and beer...it's just that he spiked the hotdog and beer with steroids!
Goat ball juice lol literally juice from goats nuts
LMAO 💀💀💀
@@daking414 That's why he is the GOAT.
Ruth never faced the best pitching of his era.
This is why I hate baseball records. Did it happen before or after Jackie Robinson? What were the dimensions of the fields he played in? Uppers Era, Steroids Era? How do you compare a power hitter today with advanced computer-guided kinesthetic analysis, microsurgical repairs of damage, and ultra-high speed film of their swing with Stan Musial?
not everybody hates barry, sf fan here and I say NOBODY PLAYED THE GAME BETTER
I read an anecdote that Bond’s Pirates teammates and staff once asked him to make a concentrated effort to improve his personality. For a time he was unrecognizable, smiling and friendly but his play cratered.
After losing a few games the Pirates are said to have begged Bonds to go back to his old self to regain some competitive ‘edge.’ Hmm but you know Michael Jordan and the late great Kobe Bryant seem to have had personalities that would be difficult to work with in most professional environments, perhaps it’s a different mentality to attain superstar status in pro sports.
I wish there was a UA-camr that did stuff like this on the nfl
I was looking for one but couldn’t
Flemlo raps
kto is the best for nfl
Personally I’d still take ken Griffey Jr in backyard baseball over bonds Lool
What’s the song at 13:55
Baseball ⚾️ is where it's at
Barry Bonds was a G. Don't agree with what he did off the field but he was one of the best players in baseball ever.
unless it was the post season then he sucked
Pump yourself full of steroids while eating that sweet Mickey D's and I'm sure you can bench another 50 pounds in three months.
@@ogieoglethorpe3788 2002 he hit 8 homers
@@owenpinkham2105 he had one good post season and he was garbage in the rest. He sucked in the playoffs
@@ogieoglethorpe3788 career 936 ops plus in the post season is sucking I guess
Bonds and Roger Clemens were almost the same. Both had their careers launch, peak, and coincide at exactly the same time, both were generational talents, both were massive cancers for their respective teams, both already had HOF-lock careers prior to taking steroids, and both got a lot of shit for lying over steroids.
Oh, but one main difference: Clemens got caught grooming an up and coming country singer named Mindy McCready and somehow got away with it, and it pretty much ruined her life and led to her tragic death as well.
He also had a final "farewell" in Boston in 2003 when he supposedly retired but it became awkward when he came back the following year.
A few years later, he fucked over Boston in 2007, going to New York when he said he wanted to play for his favorite team for his last season despite teasing the Red Sox so much over potentially returning.
There really could be an entirely separate video made on why everybody hated Roger Clemens, there's much more lore aside than what I listed above.
Speaking of pitchers, Jonathan Papelbon (or Papeldouche depending on how much you hate him) might be a possibility too, his whole career is fascinating on and off the field due to his eccentricity and how much controversy he attracted regularly, especially later in his career with Philly and Washington.
How do you figure Roger had any link to Mindy's suicide?
Papelbon is a meme
Curt Schilling as well, a Grade A jerk.
@@JaysonT1 Probably assumed when he first heard of her suicide. Not that it made Clemens any less scummy for having an affair with her but still...
Yeah Roger kinda got away with a lot of stuff
Built in ads are the best soooo easy to skip thank you
Anybody else notice that the strike 3 call at 9:44 was a foot outside? lol
I'll never forget the pirates loosing to the braves, that was about the end of baseball for me, then the strike, I was done! Van Slyke is a complete jerk also. The media should've went after him, as hard as they did bonds.
Loosing? Loosening?
People forget that Bonds was on track to be an all-timer before steroids were even on the table. He accumulated nearly 100 WAR before 1998, his first dubious season, which would put him in the top 40 all-time. His 11 year stat cutout from 1987-1998 is eerily similar to Mike Trout's 2011-2022, and Mike is already a top 20 all-time ballplayer, and will probably end in the top 10. Bonds was the best player of his generation before steroids were even a consideration, and it's crazy that people forget that. It doesn't excuse his PED usage, but it definitely puts to rest the idea that Bonds took a magic pill to become good at baseball.
Using roids for muscle isn't the only way to enhance your performance. If he was willing to blatantly cheat and put on 50 pounds of muscle in one off-season, then how can we really be sure he wasn't doing other minor things to cheat throughout his career?
@@xylynthian753 I agree somewhat every person who did or ever have suspected to have done roids and had a shitty personality should not be in the Hof because some reporter didn’t like them, off the field issues and the reporter didn’t get the sound bite they wanted.
Nah bonds definitely gets a bad rap in that department, a better example of somebody who’s career was made by PED’s would be, guys like A Fraud, his teammates in high school said he definitely was taking PED’s back then, and it makes sense because that’s around the point in time when he started “working out” with Jose Canseco. Just like Roger Clemens, Barry Bonds was a Hall of Famer before he even started taking PED’s, but his own lack of integrity and lust for fame and fortune corrupted him, Frank Thomas was a rare example of a guy who resisted the temptation to do PED’s, he has gone on record saying that his stance against PED users since 1995 has cost him a multitude of friendships, but at least he walked away with his sense of moral integrity, and still got in the hall anyways. I feel like Bonds and Clemens at the exception to the rule that if you did PED’s, or were suspected of doing PED’s then your chances of making the hall go down to 0, then again Ivan Rodriguez’s name was mentioned by Jose Canseco as one of the guys who did PED’s, even though he denied ever doing it, and Pudge made the hall, David Ortiz got busted for PED use a while back but for some reason he still got it, the difference was both guys were very like able because they didn’t try to piss off the media the fans, his coaches, and his teammates to my knowledge, at every turn. Clemens, on top of PED’s had his own issues, not as bad as bonds, but he also did have that thrown broken bat incident where he tried to murder Mike Piazza so yeah that definitely shaped a lot of hall of fame voters opinions of him.
Bonds never had the acclaim of Ken Griffey Jr until he put up those steroid aided numbers. Jr hit 50+ homers multiple times in the mid 90s before the steroid epidemic.
@@xylynthian753ou don’t know baseball. Players in the 60s and 70s admitted they used greenies
Baseball has never been a sport of purity. Yet one day coporate bitch selig wanted to boost baseball attendance again and turned on the steroid users.
Baseball made steroids illlegal in 91. In 2003 they started testing. Kinda weird right? Almost like they wanted them to do it..
15 years from there baseball changes the baseball multiple times in one decade to boost home run totals. The baseball used today would have had hitters like Hank Aaron and Willie mays hitting 1000 homers in their career. Is it fair they don’t get juiced balls? So if players today get juiced balls, do juiced players get a free pass?
Baseballs commissioners and elitist thinking is backwards. Baseball is and never will be pure. It’s jaded.
Amazing video as always.
Saying "The Media" is ridiculous. Millions of people work in news and sports media. Freedom of the press is extremely important yet so many people today have decried the entire industry based on their likely skewed perception of what only a handful of outlets and reporters have said or written.
Instead of saying "The Media", cite actual reporters, columns, or as a last resort, outlets. There's far too much vague nonsense out there about "the media is trying to say X" that when actually checked, turns out to be extremely limited to only a couple instances by one or two reporters, or just turns out to be blatantly wrong.
Well said.
It's important for public figures to be judged and assessed according to the highest standards of virtue and integrity.
Also, we must always respect the labour and toll of journalism around the world.
I loved the Giants. Then came Bonds. I stopped following them. Then he left. I started following them again.
Great story. Has the three pillars of any great story: a beginning, middle, and end.
@@stolensentience thanks!
Chip off the old block! It never falls far from the tree.
My coach is friends with Barry and was roommates with him in college while playing on the same team. Both were drafted. Same era. Now pretending steroids didn’t make him hit harder is a duh. However he was already a hall of fame level player. Steroids don’t make you see better. He also gave me a pair of ken Griffey’ Jackie Robinson day addition terfs and cleats.
I grew up in the bay watching bonds. His single season HR record is one of the least impressive aspects of his game to me. Having watched many atbats by bonds over the years the most impressive thing to me was his ability to hit pitches hard and the ability to rarely miss a good pitch. He would see 1 pitch over a 3-4 game span and he would crush it even if it wasn't a home run.
I think had Barry not done steroids he still may have broken the record. He would have gotten more ABs and that hand eye was so amazing
Why was your coach so cool with you specifically and giving you all that stuff?
@@elias60 because I had left the team because I aged out and I was one of his most improved players. Not the best but definitely shows my dedication
@@deduce9665 that’s pretty cool
Barry should be in the Hall bc you cant tell the story of the MLB without him
Bonds and Kent. The best power duo in baseball history. Unbelievable
@@Jeff-sp7bg I hated them both so much! My SF friends would say that if they were on the Dodgers I'd love them. Nope - Kent came to LA & I hated him & his porn 'stache.
At the same time, no one needs the Hall to tell the story of MLB. We all recognize and remember the Steroid Era players even if the Hall of Fame doesn't want to.
Hall of Fame is already tainted (especially with Bud Selig there) but there is no reason to taint it any more.
@foxycinnamon7307 I don't care if they are the biggest jerks ever in history I care if they hit the ball and drive in runs which they did.
@@foxycinnamon7307 LA should've been on their knees gagging on jeff Kent he was insanely underrated.
Crazy how good his family is in might be the best also best all time over babe Ruth
Ruth was a great pitcher with a great arm early in his career as well as being a great hitter. Bonds wasn't the classic '5 tool' player Willie Mays was either. Bonds had a below average arm.
Oh, did Bonds play in the dead ball era as well?
Him doing Roids was the least of his Issues really and why people didn't like him. If that was the case, how many people do Roids in more than just Baseball? And we see where Bonds learned his Actions from. 5:13 that's what happens, if the whole team is against you and ''fights'' you, it's you. Worst thing to happen since Japan was nuked, I was like Dang son Roasted!