The other major difference is the weld seam. The Wavian has an inset seam, the Chinese one doesn't. Looks very unstable when on a flat surface. I have the Wavian's and I love them. They are very quick at emptying their contents too because of the air channel. Please cut them open!
That green can looks just like the one I ordered from your Amazon store about five years or more ago. I love both of them. I did have to Garilla glue the gasket on. I also try not to drive on top of them.
its the exposed weld on the chinesium one that is the killer. the recessed weld on the jerry can is the expensive feature that makes it worth 5 of the metal balloons - also what is the liner like?
The recessed weld between the two halves is crucial to keeping the tank’s toughness intact over time. The quality is what you pay for. Is there a utility for the “China can”? Sure, just don’t expect it to last reliably like the NATO one.
I came here to point out the recessed weld, too. Not only does it look like the exposed weld won't stand as sturdily, but being exposed is very likely to subject that weld to a lot more impact and stress. So, even if the weld is as strong as on the Wavian (which I doubt) it's *still* more likely to fail under harsh conditions.
Yeah I mean I think the difference really is that one was literally intended for war where it can’t be easily replaced and it’s failure could cause a lot of harm. The average person just has no need for a war made can, those that do just buy the NATO one. I can’t believe he got sent multiple emails about this though 😂
The #1 thing you have to watch for on those cans are the welds...The welds have to be tucked into a seam like the red can. If you use a can like the green, where the seam weld sticks out...the welds will grind down on the bottom causing a leak.
Everyone has a story. Here is mine. When i was 14 i worked hard to make money to buy a good rifle scope. I finely had the money to get what i wanted and was talked into the less expensive scope. It fogged the first season. I tried to send it in to get fixed. No luck basically told it was my fault. And it was for buying something i did not want to start with. From that time on i buy what i want even if i have to wait longer. And have not been upset about a purchase 40 plus years later.
@@TreyNitrotoluene I checked with a few army friends and they are aquired from Steyr. The austrian arms company. But they couldn't tell me if they selo them to the general public. Sorry for not being any more helpfull
I bought the cheap green one a few years ago, and the cap broke after 3 months of use. Bought the red one and it is amazing, I use it often. Exactly what I expected to occur happened.
i have some chinesum cans, and I have some midwest 5800s which is the same maker as the wavian can (valpro in latvia) the midwest cans are heavy duty, lined, and with a coupon at harbor fraught, not very expensive. of my chinesium cans, 2 are 5 litre cans those the paint is pealing up where its been expoused to gasoline, my tmart red can the paint disolves in gas, my walmart zimtown can has been my favorite of the cheap chia cans. none of the cheap chinese cans are lined. its all bare steel so eventually they start rusting. i'm going to red koat the chinesium cans this winter.
I bought two of the china cans a few years ago and they showed rust and debris in my filter funnel within two years. I don’t love the race fuel plastic containers but I don’t store fuel for longer than a few days but they pour fuel very fast with minimal spillage. Thanks for the videos!!
LookatmyBig Geoduck sometimes the cheaper one is all you need. It’s cheaper and won’t hold up to the same abuse but depending on what you do sometimes the cheaper one fits.
Ben exactly it comes down to your usage of it same with tool using them everyday get good quality once every now and the buy Chinesium same here but if you trying to save money on a gas can buy plastic
Don't look at my tools I will buy the cheap first if I use the cheap one enough that I break it then it shows me I should spend the extra for good ones none of them have died with my abuse yet so all good
Or you can buy the cheap one and take care of it! If you just be smart an not a dumbass whos gonna be throwing and dropping your cans then the cheap ones are fine. Especially after all those abusive tests it still functions fine. Not too mention at 30$ if one does get damaged you can buy a new one.
This will save time for anyone else thinking of testing any Chinese product: Chinese philosophy is to provide 75% of the functionality at 50% or below of the cost. I wouldn't choose a Chinese vehicle like the Geely no matter how economical they are but for non-critical items like TVs and a Jerry can, they do the job satisfactorily.
Which one did I choose? I chose the one with the recessed seam weld, which won’t rub through and eventually develop leaks from sitting on a cement floor. I chose the one that doesn’t wobble back and forth on a hard surface. I chose the one that I can replace the gaskets and seals on as they eventually dry out and crack. I chose the one that you can actually fit a spout on. I chose the one that won’t rust from the inside out. I know it’s just a gas can....but I will never have to buy another one again in my lifetime. Wavian/NATO fuel cans are the way to go. Us west coast guys have figured out that you spend less money in the long run with quality items.
One thing that you left out of the review, and it is a major one, is that the China can doesn't have a recessed weld holding the two halves together. This is a major design flaw in the China can. Great review Wranglerstar.
When I seen that handle flex to the point it almost ripped off I knew I had made the right choice buying the European made Wavian can! Like almost all things in life, you get what you pay for. Great job as always Cody!
Metal cans are pretty nice if you know you will be rough on them but I love my SureCans, the flip down nozzle is great, I asked the company for a trial can and we ditched all of our older cans and went to SureCan. The flip down nozzle is such a convenience and they actually vent properly. Highly recommend trying them out!
I have had 2 of the $26.00 cans for over 20 years.. I cant remember the last time they were thrown out of a tree, or ran over.. generally, they are used to fill the mower and generator. they have had their share of bumps and scrapes and they still work perfectly and have never lost a drop of gas to a gasket that failed.
Same here, if you take care of your stuff it holds up. I think this is more to test if something were to happen can you rely on it. If I were in a survival situation or something I'd much rather have those quality ones because they wouldn't just break
I do agree to an extent. I've personally dealt with using cheaply-designed, cheaply-made fuel cans for years and found that the handling and spill-resistance of a fuel can comes down primarily to the physical design. Not so much the build quality. You'll find that the only reason the $26 can is any good is because they're a rip-off of the WW2-proven NATO design. The paper-thin steel gauge and hasty construction make you miserable, but it's still functionally useable to some degree if you're careful.
@@fakename287 you are generally right but I'd argue a $20 jerry can is more durable in some ways to a $5 plastic one. It won't be 4x as strong though so it's a cost benefit calculation you have to do. The plastic cans aren't bad at all either, whatever fits your purpose
the all-around weld on the NATO spec one is MADE IN Latvia and is inward meaning you can't damage the weld the FAR EAST one is not and can be damaged easily it also provides structural strength all around being indented I got mine from Germany not only its NATO but also UN approved I just have to have the red diamond fire sticker on it to be DOT approved because it was the military coloured green
And Valpro branded cans can be purchased for significantly less money. Of course, they are not DOT or CARB compliant, because Valpro cans are sold without a spout. The thinking is, you may need several cans; but you only really NEED one spout.
@@ivermec-tin666 the midwest 5800 is $40 at harbor fraught before the 30% off coupon and its a valpro can with a screw cap instead of the mil spec setup
@@MrSGL21 Thanks for the info. IMO, the cam lock is a critical design element of the NATO can. This is what makes the can completely vapor tight. A twist on cap is inferior in every respect.
You had me sold at the use of thinner metal. I forget about price after I have a product that fails. Experience had taught me to buy the best product and explain later to my wife that we will never regret purchasing the quality product. And yes dear I do need all these tools!! God bless to you and yours Sir! Keep up the great info!
THANK YOU, VERY MUCH, WRANGLERSTAR!! I REALLY ENJOY YOUR EXCELLENT, DETAILED, CRITICAL, THOROUGH, PRODUCT REVIEWS, AND COMMON SENSE!!! "GO! WRANGLERSTAR!!!"
Hi Wranglerstar, I have a suggestion, which might be a dumb one. If you're going to chop the cans open, might as well do one last stress test. A return to the 17ft tree house drop, with say a 10-foot rope, to test the strength of the handle with some shock force. Again, might be a dumb suggestion, but I would love to see the cheap chinesium handle rip off.
I've been using fuel cans of all kinds for the better half of 35 years . Never had one fly out the window of my truck or fall from a tree house . Saving 50$ plus would work for me I think lol
Daniel Bernier yep I agree my green ones just set in the corner of the garage and hold gas. Had them for about eight years and none of them leak all are air tight. No problems so far.
An excellent review! I was also thinking, why on earth are they so differently priced everywhere and as I didn't know the reason then, I bought the cheapest one. After getting it and watching different videos about Jerry cans on UA-cam, I realised, that they are of very different quality indeed, though seemingly looking the same.
I bought one of those Chinese cans and it suits my purposes, however, if you,look into the neck of it, you will see a vent tube that prevents putting a gasoline pump nozzle from going in deep enough to prevent splattering and overflow. Had to use my Dremel tool to remove that tube. Also ground off some of the ears on the nozzle to allow it to fit.
Love this one Cody. Just went out to the garage to check my ten years old chinesium jerry cans and they weigh 4.1kg, which is a hair lighter than your high grade can. And they’re also fully welded. Guess you can find some good chinesium ones. They were a bit more expensive then the your cheap ones though. You get what you pay for. 😉
I must agree with you once again. I have purchased 4 of the cheaper cans with many of the same results you had when trying to close the spout. If one budgets and makes a plan, over time they will have the better product that will last many years. I also found with both, the battery operated pumps motor that fits into the less expensive tank does not fit so that is another negative. I do not know about the higher priced can. thank you for the review.
Another advantage of the Wavian can is that the welds for the 2 halves are recessed. Also, does the inside of the two cans look like. Wavian has some kind of seal to prevent the metal from rusting. I understand also that Harbor Freight has/had one that compares favorably to the Wavian. I think it's made under licence to Wavian here in the U.S.
The German jerry can from just pre WW2 is a technical marvel in its original design and was a German Vonder weapon and first caputured in desert by allies and subsuquently sought after then copied and yet to be improved till this day and I have a 1943 German one and its 100 percent servicable,holds 2 stroke for my KX125
Excellent video. I used to have European jerry cans that my business sold back in the late 1970's and early 1980's. I got these cans via Land Rover Limited's parts department. (They came with a "jerry can fixing kit. I forget the part number, but they were great, well-made cans.) Two of three days ago I received a shipment of 3 Wavian green jerry cans. These are top quality, just like the NATO type that Land Rover Ltd. use to sell. There is another web channel where the host cut in half a Wavian can and a Chinese copy of it. The Chinese copy was not coated. The Wavian was coated, but, in truth, there were several small areas inside the can that either didn't have coating on them or where the coating caked off due to handling, or dropping of the cans. Excellent video. Where I live, I'm 20 miles from the first of two gas stations on the Island of Molokai. I need to keep spare gasoline at home to keep my cars and our power equipment running. Thank you very much for this superb video and your expert advice!
I am living in a country where Wavian (there they are named Valpro) cans are made and we can buy them for less than 20 $ (Last one I bought for about 15$). I have three and they are brilliant for keeping fuel for my motorcycles. Because of the long way to US, price grows really high...
I was going to buy a few metal jerry cans for gasoline storage but went with a plastic type that were of better quality and thicker than most of the ones priced around 20 dollars, my thinking is a heavy gauge plastic can is more resistant to a puncture than a metal one as the plastic flexes a bit
Thank you Cody. I bought the Wavian based on the recommendation in your original video. It is made in Latvia, right next door to my native country, Lithuania, so I like that. The Wavian is definitely quality. What I will do is spread my Wavian purchases over the next three months until I get three cans. $80 a month is not a bad hit. I use the Archoil fuel preservative (recommended by Jay Leno's Garage) so the fuel will last months/years instead of weeks.Then I will have enough fuel for my generator and vehicle for emergency purposes. Thank you again for doing the review and bringing the issue to my attention. It may someday save my and my family's lives, and certainly it will save a lot of inconvenience with the uncertainties of the future.
Fraserfab Scepter does have a civvie line as well, but military can have to be bought secondary as far as I can tell. The military issue can is supposed to be a great can though.
I've had experience with Scepter's MFC (8 years in the Canadian Forces). Made to NATO specs and are TOUGH, thick plastic. They stack and have the 3 handles. No fume or gas leaks, and they vent from the handle. Only problems are, it has a large threaded cap that often gets stuck TIGHT and requires a large wrench (or strong hands) to loosen . There was also the occasional can that leaked from the spout during use. I'm guessing it was due to my unit not keeping up with replacing gaskets/losing them. Nozzle is long and simple, with no annoying CARB gizmos. Can is lighter too at 5lbs, floats in water when full, and won't explode in a fire like a metal jerry (it will melt though). Won't dent or rust either. I do really like the simple latch system that Waivan uses over the threaded design Scepter uses. Waivans are $100 here in Canada compared to Scepters $80.
My go-to phrase with online shopping is "The picture doesn't do the product justice." Always read the spec listings, since there's always more to the story. Things to look for in something like this would be; *material *wall thickness *inner AND outer coatings *specification rating(s) (eg. type of fuel recommended, storage time limit, impact ratings, etc.) [May or may not be governed outside of manufacturers recommendation as well, but cross checking the more expensive version can shed light on what to look for] Most importantly, (and yes, this is redundant) cross check ratings, specs, and data points available against the more expensive version. Omitted information is usually a sign that corners were cut in the making of the more cost effective product, but that's not always a bad thing. Compare your usage case to the info to make a decision that best suits your needs. Sometimes those needs are simply "I just need something to get me by until the long term solution is viable. (And a side note; temporary is generally longer than we think!) Thank you for the informative videos! I've watched a few over the past couple of weeks, and they have all contributed ideas for my slow transition to building a more self reliant home. (Less consumerism of goods, more building/ self sustaining setup)
I bought the cheaper can at Walmart's website a few years ago for $25. It developed a crack in the side and started leaking after a year. It cracked right at the expansion/ reinforcing rib on the side. It's worth it to get the better can.
These Wavian cans are available from a place called Atlantic British for $44 without the spout and $62 with the spout. You can get a 4 pack for $169. They are listed as Valpro on the website (valpro makes Wavian) when you get the can in they say Wavian on the side. I just ordered one from amazon and paid $70 when I could have bought directly from them for a big discount.
Cut them open but after that test cut them into small sections and then put them into containers filled with different fuels eg ethanol, E10, 100% pure gas. also contaminate some of the Ethanol samples with water because that is a major issue with storing ethanol long term and then let them sit for a month and come back to see how the coatings have stood up over time. Then let them sit for up too a year with the occasional check to see how the coating inside the cans holds up. On a side note you can get decent cans halfway between the cheapest one here and the most expensive cans that are made well and can take a harsh life. Just that the cheapest ones like in this video are just crap and should really only be something you get in an emergency situation or maybe a one off use. Even the side welding is sticking out without any protection and that means it will be easily damaged if used often or taken off roading strapped to a 4WD.
Before you cut then open fill with water and set in the freezer. As the water freezes snd expands it will push a lot of your dents out. Its an old school trick for fixing dented up 2 stroke header pipes.
I bought 2 of the cheap green cans. They were the first of that style of metal can I found on line. I was fed up with the plastic cans leaking, cracking, spout breaking and not working. I didn't know the was any type of difference. I see how flimsy they are in comparison to my older metal jeri cans. But my old cans were flimsy compared to the army surplus cans my cousin got back in the late 70s and early 80s. But I needed something. I use them weekly for my pump and little tractor. Also, my spouts do work fine. Yes gaskets are a pain. I just hope they last. But not sure I afford $80 for a top quality can, $40 maybe. And another note, you being a firefighter would have privileged knowledge of such industrial standard equipment that regular folks won't be exposed to at Walmart, napa, home depot or O'Reilly's. So, thank you for the video and exposure to equipment that is more industrially sound. Sometimes I can find the good stuff second hand, ie. swap meet, yard sale etc.
Bought two 20L Wavian cans in 2011 for $57 from Miller Surplus here in Tucson; have used many time, always carry extra fuel on outings and walkabouts (driveabouts). At one point the rubber gaskets got hard I replaced them with cork, other than that no problems. Try using a thinner gasket on the Chinese spout, it might go on. A potential weak spot for the China version is the protruding seam weld. The weld seam on the Wavian is folded into the body of the can better protecting in from general bashing and smashing. Cheers, Mark **********************************************
Given enough time the wavian would swallow the imposter let’s remember Moses great vid and thank you for the blessing also God bless you and your family
Wavian won't ship to CA. I was going to have to find an amazon hub locker big enough, have it shipped there, then drive out to Yuma, AZ. Instead, I ordered the Chinese one and it's being delivered to my home. I think a simple funnel will fix the pour spout issue. I do appreciate this video! Way better than what I thought I was getting, barring any rust on the interior.
I was pretty disappointed by the nozzle not fitting on the china can. I was one of the ones who sent a link to this can. I didn’t say you were a fool though! I think this can has a place for the right person without a large budget. If the nozzle just worked. I thought the chinessium actually held up better than I expected. Glad you did the review / comparison. I do try not to drive on mine or throw them off a roof.. but i guess if i ever needed to use it as a weapon off the roof it would survive.
I have three of the China cans. The welded seams leaked and had to be welded in spots. They are coated on the inside but the coating peals off and they rusted on the inside so you will have contaminated gas.
I've had those cheapies for quite a while. 8 green and 2 red $19.99 on untilgone with no problems as I don't to run over them, drop them from trees, or throw them from the window.The nozzles work but I usually use a funnel.
Who really cares how much someone spends on a gas can. If he wants to buy an expensive gas can that will last then who cares. And definitely cut them open
Good info im looking for a waste oil storage and to bring to the recycling place and think it would be perfect. Probably get two and the are thin profile so i can store them till they are both full . The ones i have are plastic and the lids leak . So i think there they would be perfect.
Hey Cody. I have wavian and the valpro NATO 20L Jerry can s. Both made in Lithuania at the same plant. Great quality recessed weld seams. Full welds on the handle grabs top and bottom. Here's a suggestion from a company called British Atlantic . It's a flex filler segmented metal like Grandpas WW2 blitz cans had.,with screen and large vent too and no dreaded epa trash on it. I highly recommend this to you. Heck maybe do a review. For content. Just a suggestion.
@@issacarellano9909 A little bit .. people don't relize those can's are made to swell and contrast with out any vapor leak that's why the gas last's longer in them.
You might want to check out Harbor Freight Jerry can. It has the same weld marks and V logo on the center of the can. It supposed to be made in Eastern Block Europe. Harbor Freight sells them for 45.00. On sale now for 34.
I’ve been looking to buy a gas can recently, and my parents always had square, kind of short plastic tanks, made of a thicker plastic. It wasn’t until recently that I discovered that a lot of people use this style of tank, and now I’m not sure what people consider to be the “best.”
Enjoying the recent content. Here’s another idea. Hurricane lanterns. We lost power in the recent Northern California power outage, luckily I had a lantern (flashlights as well but I wanted to use the lantern). The day the power was going to be shut off I went out and purchased two more lanterns. They worked great. Get the proper fuel and you’re good to go.
there are soooo many options for cans like that now on aliexpress, some heavier then others, some that look metal but are plastic... wish i was kidding... some looks so cheap... the big issue is finding a supplier thats got what you want, and knowing thats it will be what you want when it shows up.. there are forums that actually cover stuff like this... learned that a while back.
I own one Wavian (never mind what color) - best gas-can in the world! I have had it for three years and I treat it gently; it is heavy when you fill it; I discarded the spout that came with it (to my spare parts cabinet) and purchased the popular third-party spout - best $20 I ever spent! So to own a Wavian properly, you need the Wavian can and the spout-upgrade; pretty damn close to $100.00; worth it? Yes! Why? Because ethanol-free and methanol-free gasoline will keep for several years in these cans - if that matters to you; here in the Southeast US, the air is laden with water vapor - and the gasketed metal can Wavian stops that moisture from getting into your can. I run dirt-bikes, saws, blowers, trimmers, mowers - all of it - on the Sunoco dispensed from a metal can such as JUSTRITE or the WAVIAN; I do own one Eagle metal can with the yellow-funnel and cannot imagine why they have not been sued out of existence - that is a very dangerous way to dispense gasoline as it is guaranteed to spill. Thanks for this WrangleStar!!
Yes - Show us the internals. Love this type of content.
The other major difference is the weld seam. The Wavian has an inset seam, the Chinese one doesn't. Looks very unstable when on a flat surface. I have the Wavian's and I love them. They are very quick at emptying their contents too because of the air channel. Please cut them open!
That is the first thing I noticed when he put the two on the table.
That green can looks just like the one I ordered from your Amazon store about five years or more ago. I love both of them. I did have to Garilla glue the gasket on. I also try not to drive on top of them.
you can get replacement gaskets
What do you mean, you don't just drive on top of your gas cans?
What ahya, sum kindov an owran man?
Could you attach the spout?
@@mccartneystuart yes works great. I put a couple spots on the under side of the gasket then put it on the can tight overnight.
its the exposed weld on the chinesium one that is the killer. the recessed weld on the jerry can is the expensive feature that makes it worth 5 of the metal balloons - also what is the liner like?
The recessed weld between the two halves is crucial to keeping the tank’s toughness intact over time. The quality is what you pay for. Is there a utility for the “China can”? Sure, just don’t expect it to last reliably like the NATO one.
Yeah. It's that recessed seam that keeps the two halves together.
Because of a youtube video, I know what you're talking about. Thanks youtube man
I came here to point out the recessed weld, too. Not only does it look like the exposed weld won't stand as sturdily, but being exposed is very likely to subject that weld to a lot more impact and stress. So, even if the weld is as strong as on the Wavian (which I doubt) it's *still* more likely to fail under harsh conditions.
@@midgetman4206 Was it a British guy talking about the history of the Jerry can? 'Cause that's how I know. 🙂
Yeah I mean I think the difference really is that one was literally intended for war where it can’t be easily replaced and it’s failure could cause a lot of harm. The average person just has no need for a war made can, those that do just buy the NATO one. I can’t believe he got sent multiple emails about this though 😂
Before can dissection, drop them until they leak.
Or keep redoing the test until they leak
A drop in a hard ground would be good or drop down a small cliff
This^^^
Should be full cans, much more useful info
Cut them open so we can get the "rest of the story".
Mike Brunner yes please
Yeah!
Yes. Then get even more proof why that can is so much cheaper. Please.
Guess that's what u get for a cheaper can
And my plea for cutting them up
The #1 thing you have to watch for on those cans are the welds...The welds have to be tucked into a seam like the red can. If you use a can like the green, where the seam weld sticks out...the welds will grind down on the bottom causing a leak.
Are you going to use the cheapest hacksaw on Amazon to cut open the cheapest gas can?
LOL no a cheapest Sawzall.
Everyone has a story. Here is mine. When i was 14 i worked hard to make money to buy a good rifle scope. I finely had the money to get what i wanted and was talked into the less expensive scope. It fogged the first season. I tried to send it in to get fixed. No luck basically told it was my fault. And it was for buying something i did not want to start with. From that time on i buy what i want even if i have to wait longer. And have not been upset about a purchase 40 plus years later.
Same story except i didnt listen and got a decent scope and I did the same with my bike thanks for letting me hear what could of happened
Awesome
No one ever regretted buying quality
well in the portuguese army we are still being issue the ww2 can. Brand new. So someone is still making them to military spec
Or maybe they're just surplus?
@@OGPatriot03 not really because they say made in Portugal. and in the days of the dictatorship they used the portuguese words.
@@MangosColorados Can you ask for more info? Id love to get my hands on a couple.
@@TreyNitrotoluene I checked with a few army friends and they are aquired from Steyr. The austrian arms company. But they couldn't tell me if they selo them to the general public. Sorry for not being any more helpfull
@csknives2140 so I just served 6 years in the boy scouts? a very quick internet search would prevent you from saying something incorrect.
I bought the cheap green one a few years ago, and the cap broke after 3 months of use. Bought the red one and it is amazing, I use it often. Exactly what I expected to occur happened.
dude your like 7 where are you gonna use them
@@TheRealTatakan To drink with his tide pods.
Can you get the good one in green?
@@BLASTIC0 I bought it 3 years ago so I don’t know but mine is green
I'd go with the "chinesium" personally, no intentions of driving over them with with a truck so it's good enough.
i have some chinesum cans, and I have some midwest 5800s which is the same maker as the wavian can (valpro in latvia) the midwest cans are heavy duty, lined, and with a coupon at harbor fraught, not very expensive. of my chinesium cans, 2 are 5 litre cans those the paint is pealing up where its been expoused to gasoline, my tmart red can the paint disolves in gas, my walmart zimtown can has been my favorite of the cheap chia cans. none of the cheap chinese cans are lined. its all bare steel so eventually they start rusting. i'm going to red koat the chinesium cans this winter.
haha I agree.
Do more videos like these. This was a fun watch.
I would like to see them cut open to see if there is a costing in the cans. I know my 70s era GI can was plain steel inside there was no coating.
Kriss have they rusted inside... give me some info!Have you had any problem at all using them for fuel?!
I bought two of the china cans a few years ago and they showed rust and debris in my filter funnel within two years. I don’t love the race fuel plastic containers but I don’t store fuel for longer than a few days but they pour fuel very fast with minimal spillage. Thanks for the videos!!
Yes, please: show us the insides! Thank you for these videos! Love 'em!
I love the guys who are always able to “save money”
LookatmyBig Geoduck sometimes the cheaper one is all you need. It’s cheaper and won’t hold up to the same abuse but depending on what you do sometimes the cheaper one fits.
Some times you don't need something to last 3 gens...
Ben exactly it comes down to your usage of it same with tool using them everyday get good quality once every now and the buy Chinesium same here but if you trying to save money on a gas can buy plastic
Don't look at my tools I will buy the cheap first if I use the cheap one enough that I break it then it shows me I should spend the extra for good ones none of them have died with my abuse yet so all good
Or you can buy the cheap one and take care of it! If you just be smart an not a dumbass whos gonna be throwing and dropping your cans then the cheap ones are fine. Especially after all those abusive tests it still functions fine. Not too mention at 30$ if one does get damaged you can buy a new one.
This will save time for anyone else thinking of testing any Chinese product: Chinese philosophy is to provide 75% of the functionality at 50% or below of the cost. I wouldn't choose a Chinese vehicle like the Geely no matter how economical they are but for non-critical items like TVs and a Jerry can, they do the job satisfactorily.
Which one did I choose? I chose the one with the recessed seam weld, which won’t rub through and eventually develop leaks from sitting on a cement floor. I chose the one that doesn’t wobble back and forth on a hard surface. I chose the one that I can replace the gaskets and seals on as they eventually dry out and crack. I chose the one that you can actually fit a spout on. I chose the one that won’t rust from the inside out. I know it’s just a gas can....but I will never have to buy another one again in my lifetime. Wavian/NATO fuel cans are the way to go.
Us west coast guys have figured out that you spend less money in the long run with quality items.
You can also always just get the used ones at the flea market for $1-$10. Those have worked fine for me.
One thing that you left out of the review, and it is a major one, is that the China can doesn't have a recessed weld holding the two halves together. This is a major design flaw in the China can. Great review Wranglerstar.
When I seen that handle flex to the point it almost ripped off I knew I had made the right choice buying the European made Wavian can!
Like almost all things in life, you get what you pay for. Great job as always Cody!
@@Drakari Where?
For the price of the wavian you should just buy the scepter cans that won't rust, and are way more durable.
Metal cans are pretty nice if you know you will be rough on them but I love my SureCans, the flip down nozzle is great, I asked the company for a trial can and we ditched all of our older cans and went to SureCan. The flip down nozzle is such a convenience and they actually vent properly. Highly recommend trying them out!
I have had 2 of the $26.00 cans for over 20 years.. I cant remember the last time they were thrown out of a tree, or ran over.. generally, they are used to fill the mower and generator. they have had their share of bumps and scrapes and they still work perfectly and have never lost a drop of gas to a gasket that failed.
Same here, if you take care of your stuff it holds up. I think this is more to test if something were to happen can you rely on it. If I were in a survival situation or something I'd much rather have those quality ones because they wouldn't just break
I do agree to an extent. I've personally dealt with using cheaply-designed, cheaply-made fuel cans for years and found that the handling and spill-resistance of a fuel can comes down primarily to the physical design. Not so much the build quality. You'll find that the only reason the $26 can is any good is because they're a rip-off of the WW2-proven NATO design. The paper-thin steel gauge and hasty construction make you miserable, but it's still functionally useable to some degree if you're careful.
But the entire appeal of the Jerry can is its relative durability? Why not go even cheaper and get a $10 plastic can at that point?
@@fakename287 you are generally right but I'd argue a $20 jerry can is more durable in some ways to a $5 plastic one. It won't be 4x as strong though so it's a cost benefit calculation you have to do. The plastic cans aren't bad at all either, whatever fits your purpose
the all-around weld on the NATO spec one is MADE IN Latvia and is inward meaning you can't damage the weld the FAR EAST one is not and can be damaged easily it also provides structural strength all around being indented
I got mine from Germany not only its NATO but also UN approved I just have to have the red diamond fire sticker on it to be DOT approved because it was the military coloured green
Wavian just brands these cans. They are made by Valpro
And Valpro branded cans can be purchased for significantly less money. Of course, they are not DOT or CARB compliant, because Valpro cans are sold without a spout. The thinking is, you may need several cans; but you only really NEED one spout.
just looked valpro up, 30usd in sweden.
@@ivermec-tin666 the midwest 5800 is $40 at harbor fraught before the 30% off coupon and its a valpro can with a screw cap instead of the mil spec setup
@@MrSGL21 Thanks for the info. IMO, the cam lock is a critical design element of the NATO can. This is what makes the can completely vapor tight.
A twist on cap is inferior in every respect.
You had me sold at the use of thinner metal. I forget about price after I have a product that fails. Experience had taught me to buy the best product and explain later to my wife that we will never regret purchasing the quality product. And yes dear I do need all these tools!! God bless to you and yours Sir! Keep up the great info!
I would use plastic for regular drives around town, the cheap metal one for cross country road trips, and the heavy metal one for lifetime usage.
THANK YOU, VERY MUCH, WRANGLERSTAR!! I REALLY ENJOY YOUR EXCELLENT, DETAILED, CRITICAL, THOROUGH, PRODUCT REVIEWS, AND COMMON SENSE!!! "GO! WRANGLERSTAR!!!"
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Hi Wranglerstar, I have a suggestion, which might be a dumb one. If you're going to chop the cans open, might as well do one last stress test. A return to the 17ft tree house drop, with say a 10-foot rope, to test the strength of the handle with some shock force. Again, might be a dumb suggestion, but I would love to see the cheap chinesium handle rip off.
I was just going to suggest cutting them open when you beat me to it!!😂
cut them open...also measure the thickness of the steel. Maybe want to cut through the weld to see the quality of that too
I've been using fuel cans of all kinds for the better half of 35 years . Never had one fly out the window of my truck or fall from a tree house . Saving 50$ plus would work for me I think lol
Daniel Bernier yep I agree my green ones just set in the corner of the garage and hold gas. Had them for about eight years and none of them leak all are air tight. No problems so far.
Me neither but i have had they leak after they rattle on my truck thing of buying someof the red ones the waivien i think its called
Exactly. This guy looks like a moron when he puts things through tests that no reasonable person would put their gas can through.
An excellent review! I was also thinking, why on earth are they so differently priced everywhere and as I didn't know the reason then, I bought the cheapest one. After getting it and watching different videos about Jerry cans on UA-cam, I realised, that they are of very different quality indeed, though seemingly looking the same.
YES!! PLEASE OPEN THEM UP!! GREAT IDEA! 👏👏👏
I bought one of those Chinese cans and it suits my purposes, however, if you,look into the neck of it, you will see a vent tube that prevents putting a gasoline pump nozzle from going in deep enough to prevent splattering and overflow. Had to use my Dremel tool to remove that tube. Also ground off some of the ears on the nozzle to allow it to fit.
Love this one Cody. Just went out to the garage to check my ten years old chinesium jerry cans and they weigh 4.1kg, which is a hair lighter than your high grade can. And they’re also fully welded. Guess you can find some good chinesium ones. They were a bit more expensive then the your cheap ones though. You get what you pay for. 😉
ten years ago they were trying to pretend they make good products to get people to buy their products now they just go as cheap as possible
Perhaps they were ROC (China) Mil-Spec?
I must agree with you once again. I have purchased 4 of the cheaper cans with many of the same results you had when trying to close the spout. If one budgets and makes a plan, over time they will have the better product that will last many years. I also found with both, the battery operated pumps motor that fits into the less expensive tank does not fit so that is another negative. I do not know about the higher priced can. thank you for the review.
Nice comparison. I personally prefer quality items - less chance of failure when you need it!
Another advantage of the Wavian can is that the welds for the 2 halves are recessed. Also, does the inside of the two cans look like. Wavian has some kind of seal to prevent the metal from rusting. I understand also that Harbor Freight has/had one that compares favorably to the Wavian. I think it's made under licence to Wavian here in the U.S.
I checked the harbor feright ones and they're made in Latvia or Lithuania (forgot which)
I would definitely love to see these dismantled for further analysis
I agree, you get what you pay for…..always. Good job, thanks for the time!!
I like to use Loctite®️ weatherstrip adhesive for gaskets
The German jerry can from just pre WW2 is a technical marvel in its original design and was a German Vonder weapon and first caputured in desert by allies and subsuquently sought after then copied and yet to be improved till this day and I have a 1943 German one and its 100 percent servicable,holds 2 stroke for my KX125
I have been looking at those cheap Jerry Cans for a couple of weeks ! Thanks for doing this vid , I had a strong feeling that was the case .
Excellent video. I used to have European jerry cans that my business sold back in the late 1970's and early 1980's. I got these cans via Land Rover Limited's parts department. (They came with a "jerry can fixing kit. I forget the part number, but they were great, well-made cans.) Two of three days ago I received a shipment of 3 Wavian green jerry cans. These are top quality, just like the NATO type that Land Rover Ltd. use to sell. There is another web channel where the host cut in half a Wavian can and a Chinese copy of it. The Chinese copy was not coated. The Wavian was coated, but, in truth, there were several small areas inside the can that either didn't have coating on them or where the coating caked off due to handling, or dropping of the cans. Excellent video. Where I live, I'm 20 miles from the first of two gas stations on the Island of Molokai. I need to keep spare gasoline at home to keep my cars and our power equipment running. Thank you very much for this superb video and your expert advice!
Im curious to see what the inside of the cans look like!
I am living in a country where Wavian (there they are named Valpro) cans are made and we can buy them for less than 20 $ (Last one I bought for about 15$). I have three and they are brilliant for keeping fuel for my motorcycles. Because of the long way to US, price grows really high...
Thanks for another awesome video! Providing valuable information + entertainment! You the man!
facts!
you right
I was going to buy a few metal jerry cans for gasoline storage but went with a plastic type that were of better quality and thicker than most of the ones priced around 20 dollars, my thinking is a heavy gauge plastic can is more resistant to a puncture than a metal one as the plastic flexes a bit
I’d like to see the coatings (or lack thereof).
Thank you Cody. I bought the Wavian based on the recommendation in your original video. It is made in Latvia, right next door to my native country, Lithuania, so I like that. The Wavian is definitely quality. What I will do is spread my Wavian purchases over the next three months until I get three cans. $80 a month is not a bad hit. I use the Archoil fuel preservative (recommended by Jay Leno's Garage) so the fuel will last months/years instead of weeks.Then I will have enough fuel for my generator and vehicle for emergency purposes. Thank you again for doing the review and bringing the issue to my attention. It may someday save my and my family's lives, and certainly it will save a lot of inconvenience with the uncertainties of the future.
Can we throw the Scepter plastic jerry cans into this mix as well? I've heard good things, and the price puts them between the two of these.
Fraserfab Scepter does have a civvie line as well, but military can have to be bought secondary as far as I can tell. The military issue can is supposed to be a great can though.
I've had experience with Scepter's MFC (8 years in the Canadian Forces). Made to NATO specs and are TOUGH, thick plastic. They stack and have the 3 handles. No fume or gas leaks, and they vent from the handle. Only problems are, it has a large threaded cap that often gets stuck TIGHT and requires a large wrench (or strong hands) to loosen . There was also the occasional can that leaked from the spout during use. I'm guessing it was due to my unit not keeping up with replacing gaskets/losing them. Nozzle is long and simple, with no annoying CARB gizmos. Can is lighter too at 5lbs, floats in water when full, and won't explode in a fire like a metal jerry (it will melt though). Won't dent or rust either. I do really like the simple latch system that Waivan uses over the threaded design Scepter uses. Waivans are $100 here in Canada compared to Scepters $80.
@@Killscreen123 The Scepter cans look like they may be able to accept the Non-CARB' nuisance replacement nozzles made by EZ-Pour.
I have a couple of them. Definitely better than your standard big box store gas can.
My go-to phrase with online shopping is "The picture doesn't do the product justice." Always read the spec listings, since there's always more to the story.
Things to look for in something like this would be;
*material
*wall thickness
*inner AND outer coatings
*specification rating(s) (eg. type of fuel recommended, storage time limit, impact ratings, etc.) [May or may not be governed outside of manufacturers recommendation as well, but cross checking the more expensive version can shed light on what to look for]
Most importantly, (and yes, this is redundant) cross check ratings, specs, and data points available against the more expensive version. Omitted information is usually a sign that corners were cut in the making of the more cost effective product, but that's not always a bad thing. Compare your usage case to the info to make a decision that best suits your needs. Sometimes those needs are simply "I just need something to get me by until the long term solution is viable. (And a side note; temporary is generally longer than we think!)
Thank you for the informative videos! I've watched a few over the past couple of weeks, and they have all contributed ideas for my slow transition to building a more self reliant home. (Less consumerism of goods, more building/ self sustaining setup)
I always prefer quality over quantity, with everything. That just my life philosophy, you all make your own. Each to their own, as they say!
I bought the cheaper can at Walmart's website a few years ago for $25. It developed a crack in the side and started leaking after a year. It cracked right at the expansion/ reinforcing rib on the side. It's worth it to get the better can.
I'm with you." Buy once, cry once"Don't know how many times I've settled for the cheap, Chinese crap; only to buy the real McCoy at a later date.
These Wavian cans are available from a place called Atlantic British for $44 without the spout and $62 with the spout. You can get a 4 pack for $169. They are listed as Valpro on the website (valpro makes Wavian) when you get the can in they say Wavian on the side. I just ordered one from amazon and paid $70 when I could have bought directly from them for a big discount.
"Coding" "coading" "coting"
Jeez, I'm not even from the states but Cody, you might have been right about those east coast fellas.
Cut them open but after that test cut them into small sections and then put them into containers filled with different fuels eg ethanol, E10, 100% pure gas. also contaminate some of the Ethanol samples with water because that is a major issue with storing ethanol long term and then let them sit for a month and come back to see how the coatings have stood up over time. Then let them sit for up too a year with the occasional check to see how the coating inside the cans holds up.
On a side note you can get decent cans halfway between the cheapest one here and the most expensive cans that are made well and can take a harsh life. Just that the cheapest ones like in this video are just crap and should really only be something you get in an emergency situation or maybe a one off use. Even the side welding is sticking out without any protection and that means it will be easily damaged if used often or taken off roading strapped to a 4WD.
Had bought a cheap Amazon can. After putting gas inside. The green paint on the inside came off.
Before you cut then open fill with water and set in the freezer. As the water freezes snd expands it will push a lot of your dents out. Its an old school trick for fixing dented up 2 stroke header pipes.
Meanwhile I'm sitting here with a busted up plastic can with the top broken so it doesn't latch.
I bought 2 of the cheap green cans. They were the first of that style of metal can I found on line. I was fed up with the plastic cans leaking, cracking, spout breaking and not working. I didn't know the was any type of difference. I see how flimsy they are in comparison to my older metal jeri cans. But my old cans were flimsy compared to the army surplus cans my cousin got back in the late 70s and early 80s. But I needed something. I use them weekly for my pump and little tractor. Also, my spouts do work fine. Yes gaskets are a pain. I just hope they last. But not sure I afford $80 for a top quality can, $40 maybe. And another note, you being a firefighter would have privileged knowledge of such industrial standard equipment that regular folks won't be exposed to at Walmart, napa, home depot or O'Reilly's. So, thank you for the video and exposure to equipment that is more industrially sound. Sometimes I can find the good stuff second hand, ie. swap meet, yard sale etc.
Could you compare the wavian to the military scepter fuel can?
Yes! Might be hard for him to get legally as they aren't CARB compliant though.
@@Killscreen123 Yeah, maybe there are some subscribers from Canada that could "donate" to the channel?
You can order non carb compliant ones from out of us and imported, they're just labled as not to be used for gas.
Bought two 20L Wavian cans in 2011 for $57 from Miller Surplus here in Tucson; have used many time, always carry extra fuel on outings and walkabouts (driveabouts). At one point the rubber gaskets got hard I replaced them with cork, other than that no problems. Try using a thinner gasket on the Chinese spout, it might go on.
A potential weak spot for the China version is the protruding seam weld. The weld seam on the Wavian is folded into the body of the can better protecting in from general bashing and smashing.
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Given enough time the wavian would swallow the imposter let’s remember Moses great vid and thank you for the blessing also God bless you and your family
What I learnt from your video, buy Nato surplus ones,they cost around the same as the cheap ones but are of course proper military grade.
They're both great for their money. Get whatever you can afford!
I ordered the exact same green can and works perfectly fine! So either they changed it or user error
I would like to see them cut open. That will put all/most arguments to rest.
Wavian won't ship to CA. I was going to have to find an amazon hub locker big enough, have it shipped there, then drive out to Yuma, AZ. Instead, I ordered the Chinese one and it's being delivered to my home. I think a simple funnel will fix the pour spout issue. I do appreciate this video! Way better than what I thought I was getting, barring any rust on the interior.
When I tried to watch this video a few hours back, it told me it was removed by the creator.
Did you succumb to Chinese censorship?😳
Let him comment on stupidity.
It's entertaining.
@Mykel Hardin the first video was removed
I was pretty disappointed by the nozzle not fitting on the china can. I was one of the ones who sent a link to this can. I didn’t say you were a fool though! I think this can has a place for the right person without a large budget. If the nozzle just worked. I thought the chinessium actually held up better than I expected. Glad you did the review / comparison. I do try not to drive on mine or throw them off a roof.. but i guess if i ever needed to use it as a weapon off the roof it would survive.
I just use plastic.
What are you people planning on doing, for you need to need military grade Jarry can
haloharry97 Economic collapse / apocalypse man
Off road driving.
I have three of the China cans. The welded seams leaked and had to be welded in spots. They are coated on the inside but the coating peals off and they rusted on the inside so you will have contaminated gas.
Now you can sell that green can as a "distressed" can for $200 to some hipster.
I've had those cheapies for quite a while. 8 green and 2 red $19.99 on untilgone with no problems as I don't to run over them, drop them from trees, or throw them from the window.The nozzles work but I usually use a funnel.
Who really cares how much someone spends on a gas can. If he wants to buy an expensive gas can that will last then who cares. And definitely cut them open
Good info im looking for a waste oil storage and to bring to the recycling place and think it would be perfect. Probably get two and the are thin profile so i can store them till they are both full . The ones i have are plastic and the lids leak . So i think there they would be perfect.
I never would've considered buying a cheap can until I watched it perform well in this video.
Hey Cody. I have wavian and the valpro NATO 20L Jerry can s. Both made in Lithuania at the same plant. Great quality recessed weld seams. Full welds on the handle grabs top and bottom. Here's a suggestion from a company called British Atlantic . It's a flex filler segmented metal like Grandpas WW2 blitz cans had.,with screen and large vent too and no dreaded epa trash on it. I highly recommend this to you. Heck maybe do a review. For content. Just a suggestion.
Don't cut the red one, sign it and give it away to a subscriber.
great video. i hjust but 4 wavians this morning. i think the greatest test is one you cannot show in a short video...the test of time.
I love my Wavian cans, take the spring out of the nozzle and they’ll pour easier. Cut em open!!
After the Texas snow storm I have decided to prep a few things for the next time. Thank you for the can review. I will be buying Wavian.
the chinese one when it's hot and swell's the weld's bust and spray's gas in your work shop so yea spend the extra on a better can..
Deadsparrowstattoo Redmon sounds like you speak from experience
@@issacarellano9909 A little bit .. people don't relize those can's are made to swell and contrast with out any vapor leak that's why the gas last's longer in them.
You might want to check out Harbor Freight Jerry can. It has the same weld marks and V logo on the center of the can.
It supposed to be made in Eastern Block Europe. Harbor Freight sells them for 45.00.
On sale now for 34.
I read "tasting" instead of "testing".
Most confused 5 seconds of this year...
I’ve been looking to buy a gas can recently, and my parents always had square, kind of short plastic tanks, made of a thicker plastic. It wasn’t until recently that I discovered that a lot of people use this style of tank, and now I’m not sure what people consider to be the “best.”
I wouldn't even care if they performed the same. Id rather pay an american company and Latvian workers than send my money to the red chinese.
Well someone's paranoid
Bob Builder agreed
Enjoying the recent content. Here’s another idea. Hurricane lanterns. We lost power in the recent Northern California power outage, luckily I had a lantern (flashlights as well but I wanted to use the lantern). The day the power was going to be shut off I went out and purchased two more lanterns. They worked great. Get the proper fuel and you’re good to go.
Light weight means more fuel economy!
Good review. I have 18 of the Wavian's. All Brand new. Wouldn't trade them for ANY other can out there. Solid quality!
I’d rather pay more and still have the can in 30 years.
Yeah right i doubt any of the two would last the test of time.
there are soooo many options for cans like that now on aliexpress, some heavier then others, some that look metal but are plastic... wish i was kidding... some looks so cheap...
the big issue is finding a supplier thats got what you want, and knowing thats it will be what you want when it shows up.. there are forums that actually cover stuff like this... learned that a while back.
Dude, it just needs to hold gas in my shed.
It'll have a lead coating inside. Mess your gas up overtime
@@смиренный-х2б Whats the correlation between cheap sheet steel this can made of and lead?
I own one Wavian (never mind what color) - best gas-can in the world! I have had it for three years and I treat it gently; it is heavy when you fill it; I discarded the spout that came with it (to my spare parts cabinet) and purchased the popular third-party spout - best $20 I ever spent! So to own a Wavian properly, you need the Wavian can and the spout-upgrade; pretty damn close to $100.00; worth it? Yes! Why? Because ethanol-free and methanol-free gasoline will keep for several years in these cans - if that matters to you; here in the Southeast US, the air is laden with water vapor - and the gasketed metal can Wavian stops that moisture from getting into your can. I run dirt-bikes, saws, blowers, trimmers, mowers - all of it - on the Sunoco dispensed from a metal can such as JUSTRITE or the WAVIAN; I do own one Eagle metal can with the yellow-funnel and cannot imagine why they have not been sued out of existence - that is a very dangerous way to dispense gasoline as it is guaranteed to spill. Thanks for this WrangleStar!!