JSX VS 5150 High Gain Comparison
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- Опубліковано 1 тра 2020
- I had repaired a couple of Peavey amps and since I test everything out thoroughly before it's sent home I thought I would put these two amps through their paces and A/B their sounds together.
The 5150 has 6L6GC tubes and JSX has EL34's. Overall I don't consider the output tubes to be a major factor in tone on these amps as the gain and saturation really comes from the preamp design. I don't believe you will hear a big difference unless the amps are turned WAY up and both of these amps have more than enough volume and headroom.
Both amplifiers are mic'd up with Shure SM57's going through two 4x12 speaker cabinets loaded with Celestion G12T-75's and Vintage 30's. - Навчання та стиль
What a huge difference the speakers make for the JSX!
This is how a comparison is done. Same riffs, same guitar, same cabs, same mics, back to back. I have a JSX, great amp, really clicked with me first time I heard it. And obviously you can't go wrong with a 5150 haha!
As a G12T-75 player I love that you demo with those along the V30s
Excellent vid, great job highlighting which amp you are on
Loving the videos youve been putting out.
Thanks for the demo. Good playing good tones!
Killer brother! I actually liked the v30s 🔥
Damn those G12T-75s sounded better than the Vintage 30s IMO 🤨🤯
Nice playing, man! Your riffs remind me of some Gary Holt mixed with Vader. Also, with having previously owned and gigged both of these amps, I feel like the crunch channels on both amps would be far better suited for the heavier and chunkier stuff, albeit maybe with the gain a bit higher. Still sounds great on the lead channels though!!
I really like the way the T75s sounded with the JSX more than the V30s (which is what I used to play my JSX through). But, I bet a T75 and a V30 in X pattern would sound pretty damn good with either amp also. They sound like they'd pair well together in the same cabinet, at least to my ears.
oh man please do the same comparison between a Peavey Butcher and a Marshall JMP or JCM800 please. Love your videos !
Love the deicide riffs
5150 with the vintage cabinet sounds killer!!!
video completo e detalhado com solos e base, excelente, obrigado
It sounded more like a speaker comparison than an amp comparison. The playing and the tone out of the amps is very consistent. Having owned amps based on the JSX and the 5150 ii, I think they can both sound like each other but the JSX has a bigger range of sound, whereas the 5150 has three good sounds, and thats it, but its hard to screw up. whereas the JSX has that cocked wah sound and aggressive mids that you gotta like or deal with.
I like em both with greenbacks or similar (hellatone 25s to be precise).
I've never heard the 5150 w gain rolled down - it sounds really good that way! JSX seems way more flexible and balanced tho. Great vid
Awesome conviction cover
We need more videos brother!
JSX is one of the best-of-all-time high gain amps. The gain knob is very usable throughout the entire spectrum. That and the XXX are the best amps Peavey ever put out, imo.
I am running my EVH block letter through the Valve King 100 combo I have .... Blue Marvel speakers fall kinda in between the G12-75'S and V30's ...not as scooped as 75's and not as fizzy as V30's
Starting to turn me over to those 75s
Yea they sound better alone but with a band playing the v30s will come through and be heard better. Ive spent many hours experimenting with both. But hey, its all about the style your playing
It's definitely an underrated speaker. Never understood the hate personally.
Great sounding amps I own both myself, but why did you dial back the pres and res knobs??
Gtm 75 for 80smetal and 90s. Even though everyone hated them Back then ! And the jsx can be the only amp you need. But you already know it.
Digging it. These V30s sound funny to me though. I have a couple of V30 cabs with these amps and I don't hear that character. Might be mic placement. The T75s sound more like I'm used to hearing them sound. Quite good but a bit fizzy.
I can agree. Mic placement plays a HUGE role in how the speaker will sound when recorded. It's hard to find a common placement for both since they are so different. I placed each mic just outside of the dust cap which on each speaker will be a different distance from the center of the cone.
Not all v30s are made the same and might be from the year they were the least liked
you look like a combination between hue jackman and tom savini the master of horror
they both sound really good, but i was suprised how much ? duller , or subdued the V30'S sounded, i am looking for a JSX as we speak , that's how i happened across this video
The g12t with the 5150 seem to do the trick for me
Had both those amps ,wish I still had em 🤔I gotta say I favor the 75’s 😀
Didnt expect to hate the v30s
Not a fan of the V30 for either, it sounds so compressed and muffled, almost like a line 6 practice amp.
doesnt sound nothing lke a spider to me thats blasohemy comparing peavey to line 6 mine does not sound compressed not when you know the righr speaker cab to pair it with and know how to set the amp nine times out of 10 its the user not the amp adjust those equalization knobs but mine does not sound to compressed at all u should try it on a 4x12 cab.if it sound to compressed just use an equalizer pedal mxr makes the best that will solve the issure and put a rack proccesor in front of it
Totally agree with you Steven...
@@thrashfan4ever youre insane if you dont think the V30 sounds like shit here compared to the other.....and the v30 is the only speaker i run ever
@@Shadow0fd3ath24 I have cabinets with both the v30 doesn't mic as well, but it sounds better standing in the room with it. The 75's record better.
Cabs with both sound killer ppl argue about these 2 too much when you can have both. But i agree in this case the t75 sounds better on its own. Id go far as to say they both sound like theyre missing something on their own tho but all this tone stuff is subjective anyway. Depends alot on mic and placement too along with cab construction
5150 for the win. A blend of the V30 with the 75 would have been interesting. BTW, kill the mutton chops and go for the Zappa. ;-)
Nice demo. It seems like Satch no sooner got the JSX and then he was on to Marshall. What happened?
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Old g12t75 speakers are killer
Very true
Thank you..
What model of tokai is this..?
Are the pickups stock?
It is a Tokai Love Rock LS110 or possibly LS115. The pickups are stock MKII's which sound great to my ears.
@@purgasound thank you bro..
What do you think about the clean sound of those pickups..
The overdriven sound is fabulous , little bit modern to my ears .. bet the pickups are hotter than the vintage PAFs ..
T75s, my speakers of choice. Also JSX sounded a lot better
I agree. I have grown very fond of the G12T-75 over the years. I don't tune down super low and I keep my low end tight so they work really well for me. The V30 has a lot of fizzy crunch that doesn't suit my palate in most cases.
What guitar do you have there? Is that a Tokia?
Yes it's a Tokai Love Rock model. I have a bunch of them. I'm a huge fan of Tokai's and other Japanese guitars.
The bleeding one of the ultimate riffs ever. Cant knock the jsx for how much cheaper you can find it. Seems like any high gain peavey could be had for the cheap once upon a time but the jsx seems like one of the few where its still true. Fuckin tube shortage
G12T-75 "slayer?"
Cannibal Corpse!!!!!!!
The JSX is one of my favorite amp ever. Its definitely more cleaner and more articulate than the 5150 which is great for lead. However, the 5150 is dirtier and more agressive and less "polite" compared to the JSX if that makes any sense :P
lol nice pulling out the cannibal corpse
i have both speakers and my v30 doesnt sound like that compares to my g12 t75 at allits actually kimda backwards
I just put mics up placed them close to the cone edge which is not in the same place on both speakers. I probably should have slid the V30 mic further the outside and it wouldn't have sounded so shrill.
i liked the jsx tone a little better than the 5150 it sounded more brighter and thicker than the 5150 the 5150 is a good amp to just not as thick sounding dont know if its because of the tubes but t he el34s sounded the best
It looks like Peavey more suited for T75. V30s sounds terrible in this application.
Use the JSX cabinet that was designed for the effing thing
i bet they'd sound wikked if you went through both heads and the 2 different cabs on each head,, at the same time
Those V30’s sound so muffled. Can’t say I like em
Them V30s sound like dogshit, just a buncha fizz. T75s are monsters, the only speaker I use for playing heavy stuff, so much more body and thickness to 'em, infinitely better than V30s.
Hah! I thought it said high again.
I'm not a fan of the v30's, i could even say it ruins the sound of the amps especially the 5150 (the peavey sheffields were perfect).. Too many trebles, too fizzy... I prefer the gt12's
I play my Peavey 5150 through a 16 ohm Soldano cab with Eminence Legenda. Love it.
5150s just win every time there like majic
5150 has a brighter tone than the jsx
Not a fan of vintage 30’s it seems
I should do a straight speaker comparison video soon. The speakers can even sound drastically different from themselves by moving the mic an inch. I don't think the same placement on one speaker necessarily works for the other.
I hate V30s so much. I also bought one of those amps you hate (TSL 100), so what do I know. Haha
And then I canceled the order because I found out about the PCBs being garbage in them, and I don’t feel like forking out even more money.
5150 all day... I've got a made in USA 6505+ and it's an amazing beast. But I gotta say... (and people can say Whatever they want, wont change what my perception of great tone is....) that I am absolutely NOT... I repeat, NOT a fan of ANY British voices speakers. I do not like a celestion... IMHO, there is an Eminence speaker out there that can be put up against any Celestion any day of the week, and it won't just get the job done, itll do it SO MUCH BETTER!! I used to play Vintage 30's (and they were made in England, not the "Celestion International" made in China ones that are made under license for Celestion in China, but are still nothing more than knockoffs... they are just "official" knockoffs, if that can even be a thing).... ANYWAY, I digress... As I said, and YES, I SAID IT.... Eminence USA makes speakers that are just BETTER than the competition. I'm not playing a speaker just because it has some name that so-called purists have judged to be the only thing "cool" enough to run an amp through. Folk should just be honest and say, "I play Celestion because it's the brand every guitarist knows, and they are overpriced, and put in EVERYTHING, and because the name is cool..." They are only known because they are forced down our throats in almost every stock amp you can buy and by the time people spend that kind of money on them, they accept that it's what must sound good because it's what every amp company puts in their higher end stuff, along with the fact that they spent too much money on the cab they got and dont want to spend more to put better speakers in a cab that came with "the good ones" already in there....
I tell you from experience though... If you buy into that hype, you are just selling yourself WAY WAAAAAY short. As far as tone goes in terms of speakers and cabs, the BEST decision I ever made was when I pulled all the vintage 30s out of my 4x12 Mesa Recto cab and installed Eminence speakers instead. 2 Swamp Thangs and 2 Texas Heats in an X pattern. Just wanted to try something different to see what was availible out there and what I found out was that I had been on the hype train myself for FAR TOO LONG. Those speakers in that cab made the HUGE sound of that 6505+ open up to become even more huge (which I never even considered as a possibility, because it was already amazing) But it was like, when I made that swap, SO MANY THINGS CHANGED and it sounded so great that playing through my half stack became an EXPERIENCE again, not just jamming n practicing! It got me inspired, and the difference just opens doors you never knew were even there. Actually it BUILT NEW DOORS to open rather, because they really weren't there before. Between the added headroom, the articulation, and response on every frequency, the low end CHUG, and on and on.... The Eminence set, from the time I plugged into them the 1st time, blew the best speakers in the world of guitar's doors RIGHT OFF! At least what I certainly THOUGHT to be the best, all my life until that day. I went and ordered another one of each of the Eminence speakers to put in my smaller Rectifier 2x12 cab that same night, and they are still all there to this day and I wouldn't put a V30 (Made in England or otherwise) back in their place if my life depended on it. I might go to Guitar Heaven, but at least my sons would inherit some cabs that sound better than 95% of the rest of em out there!
Anyway, GREAT VIDEO!! But throw some Eminence speakers in the mix next time and maybe with your platform, a whole community of guitarists can have their eyes and ears opened up 😁😁😁
I play my Peavey 5150 through a 16 ohm Soldano cab with Eminence Legends. Love it.
man vintage 30's just sound terrible i dont know why people like them
In this video they indeed sound bad. In person they are still pretty present in the upper mids but when playing in a band you realize right away that those frequencies are the ones you need when other speakers get drowned. V30 are amazing when the amp is dialed for them.