What i love about this scene is, it shows how MIB is talented at lying via the truth. He implied being crossed off meant youd been killed, he didnt show Sawyer that Kates name was on the wall and crossed out. Jacob was not in fact playing god and despite what the MIB said, Jacob always respected peoples choices.
Something that made Season 6 really tense is you knew as things wound down and got real some major/familiar characters would likely die. And not even purely to reduce numbers, but because there were multiple characters who were well developed like Ben, Widmore, and MiB who you knew would take no issue disposing of someone when their use expired. Every scene with one of them, especially MiB, telling a story to one of the other feature characters you really had no idea if the conversation would go a direction that led to the character dying. You watched every scene assuming this might be it for this one.
I would love a Lost origins or Chronicals type show explain more of the island crossing different civilizations such as the mentioned Egyption influence. I could be Richard's father being punished to the island for abusing slaves during the Spanish Inquisition😮
Love the way he casually crosses Locke’s name from the ceiling, despite the fact “he” (but not) is stood right there, indicates two things: a) he’s not who he says he is. b) the first of the 6 candidates has been erased.
@@yoishikakatshihe6402 well if the man Sawyer was talking to was truly John Locke, why would he cross his own name off the cave ceiling? And also, the MiB can’t kill any of the candidates so he would’ve taken pleasure in doing that.
@@ryanclarke6612 but at that point is more than obvious he's not John Locke since he was found dead in the coffin and Locke already stated he was just using his body lol
This scene explains why the button had to be pressed, everyone was debating about what would happen if it didn’t in the same way as the MIB is making that same assertion with James about becoming the islands protector
The button did need to be pushed, the explosion we saw at the end of the season 2 was the result of what happened when it didn’t. The only reason the explosion wasn’t even worse than it was, is because Desmond is the “variable” in the equation with his resistance to electromagnetism, and was able to withstand the energy long enough to turn the key in the failsafe lock under the hatch that negated most of the electromagnetic energy of the explosion.
He tells Sawyer the truth. As if he's aware of the light house mirror wheel by numbers to see candidates places of origin, the numbers are their ages at the time. The light house is addresses.
He said that there is nothing on the island to protect, and we know that this is not true (the heart of the island). I am not sure however if this "protection" is good for humanity.
I think Jacob touching both of them together at their wedding, and there's only one entry on the wall, means that he believed they would be co-protectors. If one of them volunteered, the other would demand to join them.
And they died at the same time too, the only way to tell them apart whether either is a candidate is, that jin time travelled to the past and sun didnt. JAcob said he crossed kates name off when she became a mother, he must have dine the same thing to sun.
The Island is life. And it will be fine regardless of whether people opt to protect it or not. But its lazier, selfish, and more self interested to just abandon it than work to improve it. Thats the choice being made here. Are you for yourself or for the greater good?
@@Gianluca_Scottonnd for me he's still Jacob's brother, however he developed for him hate and anger because Jacob imprisoned him on the island for eternity. He cannot be killed or naturally die. He's cursed and he cannot even kill himself. For me he was not a bad guy in a traditional sense of this type movie/tv series character. Taking into account his backstory, I'm not surprised why he wanted to kill his brother at all costs. Turning into smoke monster or take the form of dead people is a nice pack of superpowers, but if your life is limited to one island and you can't die, then it sucks really much.
He was the villian, yes he was a captive, but he was willing to end the lives of whoever he had to to gain freedom for himself. His freedom isnt more important than people lives but he made that choice. He just pretended to be nice and helpful for so long that we think hes not so bad, but the scenes with sayid, who was already infected, he dropped the act as was far more honest about how evil he was. "And you let them live?" "maybe thats for the best sayid, get you through whats coming"
The mib became cold hearted and selfishly wanted to leave the island no matter the price. But some could argue their adopted mother was the true villain because she killed their real mother. He was brutal and cold hearted the way he mercilessly killed anyone that Jacob brought to the island. Now I understand the counter point that people make like “jacob is also selfish for trying to use people just to prove a point to his brother.” But jacob understood the islands purpose was special. He wanted to show his brother that people can live peacefully together there because he wanted ultimately for his brother to change his mind about leaving. This feud they started was kinda weird because they couldn’t get along even from the beginning but it’s weird that even when the mib explained that they didn’t belong there, Jacob stayed with the woman that killed his real mother essentially. But he didn’t know. I think ultimately “the mother” character was the true villain. She was brutal and savagely killed people. She was way worse than jacob. Jacob was merciful and understanding. I think ultimately Jacob was bringing people to the island for centuries to also try and stop his brothers plan. As time progressed he caught on to his bros loophole plot proceeding and knew that he would eventually be killed and needed to find a replacement. The mib chose to become a killer instead of working with his brother. Jacob cared about other people, the mib only cared about himself
It would be fun to see Josh Holloway, Evangeline Lily, etc cone back for a spinoff... their lives afterwards...you'd assume with Hurley being in charge they'd have interacted after they left the island. ....unless he decided to let them be.....
I mean they probably would have gone to hell. They're all dead, going through purgatory on the island. Allowing the smoke monster (devil) off the island would have secured their place in hell.
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I would love a what if style spin off where the MiB got off the island. I would love to see what would happen.
he did and we got COVID
What i love about this scene is, it shows how MIB is talented at lying via the truth.
He implied being crossed off meant youd been killed, he didnt show Sawyer that Kates name was on the wall and crossed out.
Jacob was not in fact playing god and despite what the MIB said, Jacob always respected peoples choices.
Something that made Season 6 really tense is you knew as things wound down and got real some major/familiar characters would likely die. And not even purely to reduce numbers, but because there were multiple characters who were well developed like Ben, Widmore, and MiB who you knew would take no issue disposing of someone when their use expired.
Every scene with one of them, especially MiB, telling a story to one of the other feature characters you really had no idea if the conversation would go a direction that led to the character dying. You watched every scene assuming this might be it for this one.
4. John Locke
8. Hurley Rayes
15. James Sawyer Ford
16. Sayid Jarrah
23. Jack Shepherd
42. Sun and Jin Kwon
i think 42 is only Jin, because Sun became a mother and Jacob crossed Kate's name off when she became a mother.
@@kimemesKwon could be their Daughter.
Brilliant psychological move from MIB, he made the choice for sawyer to not take the job and sawyer didnt even notice it when MIB crossed Fords name
What is the name of the soundtrack? The first song haunts me
I would love a Lost origins or Chronicals type show explain more of the island crossing different civilizations such as the mentioned Egyption influence. I could be Richard's father being punished to the island for abusing slaves during the Spanish Inquisition😮
Love the way he casually crosses Locke’s name from the ceiling, despite the fact “he” (but not) is stood right there, indicates two things:
a) he’s not who he says he is.
b) the first of the 6 candidates has been erased.
I didnt understood your comment
@@yoishikakatshihe6402
well if the man Sawyer was talking to was truly John Locke, why would he cross his own name off the cave ceiling? And also, the MiB can’t kill any of the candidates so he would’ve taken pleasure in doing that.
@@ryanclarke6612 but at that point is more than obvious he's not John Locke since he was found dead in the coffin and Locke already stated he was just using his body lol
This scene explains why the button had to be pressed, everyone was debating about what would happen if it didn’t in the same way as the MIB is making that same assertion with James about becoming the islands protector
The button did need to be pushed, the explosion we saw at the end of the season 2 was the result of what happened when it didn’t. The only reason the explosion wasn’t even worse than it was, is because Desmond is the “variable” in the equation with his resistance to electromagnetism, and was able to withstand the energy long enough to turn the key in the failsafe lock under the hatch that negated most of the electromagnetic energy of the explosion.
I believe the moment the Flashsideways was created was when Locke convinced Jack to push the button.
He tells Sawyer the truth. As if he's aware of the light house mirror wheel by numbers to see candidates places of origin, the numbers are their ages at the time. The light house is addresses.
He said that there is nothing on the island to protect, and we know that this is not true (the heart of the island). I am not sure however if this "protection" is good for humanity.
You're saying one of the Kwons is 42 years old?
@@SimonPetrikov12 maybe their both ages combines or something idk 😂 Locke was also 4 years old when his dad pushed him out the window
MiB is good incarnate
I think Jacob touching both of them together at their wedding, and there's only one entry on the wall, means that he believed they would be co-protectors. If one of them volunteered, the other would demand to join them.
Oh, I'm talking about Sun + Jin lol. Would have been smart to mention.
And they died at the same time too, the only way to tell them apart whether either is a candidate is, that jin time travelled to the past and sun didnt. JAcob said he crossed kates name off when she became a mother, he must have dine the same thing to sun.
The Island is life. And it will be fine regardless of whether people opt to protect it or not. But its lazier, selfish, and more self interested to just abandon it than work to improve it. Thats the choice being made here. Are you for yourself or for the greater good?
As bad as they try to make MiB the villain, he wasn't.
He's a grey character, like Jacob. And I think MIB is a corrupted version of Jacob's brother
@@Gianluca_Scottonnd for me he's still Jacob's brother, however he developed for him hate and anger because Jacob imprisoned him on the island for eternity. He cannot be killed or naturally die. He's cursed and he cannot even kill himself. For me he was not a bad guy in a traditional sense of this type movie/tv series character. Taking into account his backstory, I'm not surprised why he wanted to kill his brother at all costs. Turning into smoke monster or take the form of dead people is a nice pack of superpowers, but if your life is limited to one island and you can't die, then it sucks really much.
He was the villian, yes he was a captive, but he was willing to end the lives of whoever he had to to gain freedom for himself. His freedom isnt more important than people lives but he made that choice. He just pretended to be nice and helpful for so long that we think hes not so bad, but the scenes with sayid, who was already infected, he dropped the act as was far more honest about how evil he was.
"And you let them live?"
"maybe thats for the best sayid, get you through whats coming"
The mib became cold hearted and selfishly wanted to leave the island no matter the price. But some could argue their adopted mother was the true villain because she killed their real mother. He was brutal and cold hearted the way he mercilessly killed anyone that Jacob brought to the island. Now I understand the counter point that people make like “jacob is also selfish for trying to use people just to prove a point to his brother.” But jacob understood the islands purpose was special. He wanted to show his brother that people can live peacefully together there because he wanted ultimately for his brother to change his mind about leaving. This feud they started was kinda weird because they couldn’t get along even from the beginning but it’s weird that even when the mib explained that they didn’t belong there, Jacob stayed with the woman that killed his real mother essentially. But he didn’t know. I think ultimately “the mother” character was the true villain. She was brutal and savagely killed people. She was way worse than jacob. Jacob was merciful and understanding.
I think ultimately Jacob was bringing people to the island for centuries to also try and stop his brothers plan. As time progressed he caught on to his bros loophole plot proceeding and knew that he would eventually be killed and needed to find a replacement.
The mib chose to become a killer instead of working with his brother. Jacob cared about other people, the mib only cared about himself
It would be fun to see Josh Holloway, Evangeline Lily, etc cone back for a spinoff... their lives afterwards...you'd assume with Hurley being in charge they'd have interacted after they left the island. ....unless he decided to let them be.....
what? you did not get the ending?
What if MiB was right and nothing would happen after his leaving the island?
the devil is a master of lies, i think that jacob is the devil
I mean they probably would have gone to hell. They're all dead, going through purgatory on the island. Allowing the smoke monster (devil) off the island would have secured their place in hell.
@@ThePartisan13 but they were alive on the island. They were dead in flash sideways in season 6 xD
Damn, 2021 and people still thinking they were dead all along
@@lautarolopezgonzalez2614 Yeah but they were dead the whole time Richard said so himself! REMEMBER? LOL 😂