Loading .44 Special Cowboy Ammo
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- Опубліковано 25 лип 2024
- In this edition we load 5 rounds of .44 Special ammunition with 200 grain cast bullets, using a smokeless powder designed specifically for lead bullet loads such as are commonly used in the sport of Cowboy Action Shooting. The brass used in this demonstration, while in excellent condition, is in excess of 80 years old and is of the "balloon head" design, which was common in the early days of the 20th Century, around the time that the .44 Smith and Wesson Special cartridge was developed and introduced to the public. The .44 Special cartridge has been adapted by firearms manufacturers to be chambered in a number of pistols, revolvers, and rifles. The rounds shown in this video were previously fired in a Marlin Model 1894 lever action rifle and were reloaded to the same specifications as those used in their original hand-loading.
This video is presented for entertainment and demonstration purposes only and does not in any way constitute recommendations or instruction regarding the hand-loading or reloading of any type of ammunition. Hand-loading or reloading ammunition can be dangerous if not done in accordance with published data and recommended safety measures and practices, or with equipment not expressly designed for the purpose of loading ammunition. Anyone contemplating hand-loading ammunition should seek help and instruction from an experienced and qualified hand-loader, and follow all instructions included in published loading data tables and manuals. Some shooting sports retailers such as Cabelas/Bass Pro Shops and others offer classes in hand-loading and reloading ammunition for beginners and experienced hand-loaders alike.
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Nice job Glen. You sure know your stuff! Great old press.
I've been hand-loading since 1983, so I've learned a few tricks over the years. Actually, my older brother and I started hand-loading our 12 gauge shotshells when I was 12 and got my first shotgun! That was a while back, to be sure. It's a fun hobby, more like alchemy than science, at least to me.
Very informative. Also, this video contained an excellent demonstration of why I have gone back to single stage reloaders from progressives.
Yup. It's easy to miss a step or otherwise gum up the works. It seldom happens with that press after 30+ years of running it, but it does happen. Trick is to recognize the error and fix it before it slips by completely unobserved. Thanks for watching! Stay safe.
Hiya bud Wow I found all of that really interesting I've always wanted to know how bullets are made up to the finished result that was a great video I loved watching it as I collect bullets and I love guns and have done since the 80s I so want to see a video of those being fired I like cowboy guns from the 1800s like the Colt and wichester
Well done that was a cracking video bud nice one
Glad you enjoyed it, Pauly. I might get a chance to shoot the rifle that I loaded those for in the next few days, maybe even some of those exact cartridges, against some 2-liter soda bottles filled with water. Also, possibly a replica Colt 1860 Army cap-and-ball blackpowder revolver. Not sure yet if any of that will happen this week, but I'm hoping. If everything comes together, I plan to take the camera and record how it goes. Cheers.
Apple Stump Bushcraft Stuff and Things wow that would be awesome sir
Those guns are great just like the old days in the 1800s I can't imagine what it was like being shot with those type of bullets back then I say roll on that video man I can't wait sir and also what they sound like to many thanks for that when it comes
If you crimp in the groove, is the OCL the same as what the manual calls for, the laser cast 240 rnpf I use comes up short if I crimp in the groove, does that matter? Thanks
Heavy bullets usually need to be crimped firmly so they don't move forward (actually, the case and cylinder move backward away from them) under recoil and tie up the cylinder. For that reason, I seat 200 or 240 grain SBC hard cast in the crimping groove. I use a commercially-loaded round with same bullet weight and profile to set the COAL, and then fine-tune the seating die from there, if needed to match published data, (which they almost never need). For plated rounds in that weight range, I put a cannelure on them (if they don't already have one) so that when crimped in the cannelure they are of the proper COAL. Bullet seating depth matters more than COAL in terms of pressure. I never use the max published charge weight for any bullet/powder recipe. I've found over the years that the sweet spot is usually somewhere in the middle of the published charge weight range. I don't try to make magnums out of non-magnum calibers by exceeding published data ... with all due respect to the work Elmer Keith did with the .44 S&W Special. Long answer to a short question, I know. Hope it was helpful. Cheers.
So you say trail boss is low pressure?
Less so than 231, I'd say, but my observations are only anecdotal, in that I don't have a copper crusher/test barrel or ballistics lab. The loading data for Trail Boss is available at www.hodgdon.com/trail-boss/. The load my buddy wanted is within the published data for the .44 S&W Special, with 200 grain bullet and standard large pistol primers. The SAAMI recommended maximum operating pressure for the .44 Special is 15,000 psi. The maximum load shown on the Hodgdon website for Trail Boss and a 200 grain (lead) bullet is well below that level at 13,200 psi, and the load my buddy wanted (6.2 grains) is slightly below the maximum recommended charge weight. Those pressure numbers not withstanding, Trail Boss is a modern SMOKELESS POWDER and should never be used in firearms designed to fire only blackpowder, whether loose or in cartridges. The result of doing so could be very dangerous to the shooter and anyone standing nearby.
One of the advantages of Trail Boss is that the correct charge weight fills the brass cartridge case better than the correct charge weight of 231 or Unique. Some shooters believe that cartridges that are filled closer to the base of the bullet give more reliable ignition and more consistent velocities. Some high-powered magnum pistol and rifle cartridges actually use compressed powder charges, where the case is clear full of powder and the charge is actually compressed when the bullet is seated. Loading manuals clearly identify such cartridges in the data. Filling a .44 Special case with 231, Red Dot, Unique, or another denser, faster-burning powder to the level that would be occupied by an appropriate charge of Trail Boss (i.e., not weighing the charges, but simply filling the case to a particular level) could result in a serious overcharge and possible catastrophic failure of the firearm.
Hand-loaders are always well-advised to follow published data exactly, and most loading manuals advise loaders to choose an initial (starting) load 10% lower than the published data and work up to the published charges, since there are so many variables between firearms, loading equipment, hand-loader skill levels, powder lots, primers, bullet metal alloy mixes, etc. It's always better to be safe than sorry. All of the powder manufacturers I know of publish loading data for each powder they make. The data can be accessed for free on their websites. Thanks for your comment. Cheers.