Superman: The Arctic Giant (1942) - Orga Reviews Ep 16

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  • @SasquaDash
    @SasquaDash Рік тому +199

    "You're a rip-off"
    Says the monster that was trying to become a Godzilla clone...

    • @ATakTakTak
      @ATakTakTak Рік тому +32

      And who looks suspiciously similar to the Rancor from Star Wars.

    • @lordkaijux5262
      @lordkaijux5262 Рік тому +20

      @@ATakTakTak As well as looking like a slack jawed version of zilla.

    • @Fullrider-hopper
      @Fullrider-hopper Рік тому +6

      And he some what looks like a gamera rip off lol

    • @gojo5621
      @gojo5621 Рік тому +3

      Nah, maybe orga could be shin Godzilla that tried to copy Godzilla millenium

    • @aquauniverse4403
      @aquauniverse4403 Рік тому +4

      Not only that, but Orga’s design was based on the 98 Zilla. Definitely a rip off lol

  • @MonsterIslandBuddies
    @MonsterIslandBuddies  Рік тому +87

    Hey everyone - I know this video didn't end on a definitive stance on if the big G is a "rip-off" of any sort. I can share my personal thoughts here because I find the conversation fascinating, but my caveat is that my thoughts on the subject (and yours too) don't really matter... I'll get to that...
    Often times, bootleggers who get sued by Godzilla's lawyers use what’s called the “the dinosaur defense”. They argue that their ripoff isn’t Godzilla but a regular T-Rex. Toho’s lawyers scoff at that defense, saying “a T-Rex doesn’t stand upright, have long arms, breathe atomic breath, have dorsal plates running down its back, and (most important) destroy cities”. This statement is on record multiple times. This is THEIR legal stance on when a dinosaur becomes a Godzilla imposter.
    The T-Rex in this cartoon literally does all of those things except breathe atomic breath. I can say with high confidence that if this design came out today, Toho's lawyers would come knocking. You've seen in my Lawsuit video that they've acted on less (ex. Subway). And if Arctic Giant came out today, I don't think any of us would blame Toho for going after it. It's not parody; it's a high profile Superhero fighting a Tyrannosaurus who's sized like Godzilla, looks like Godzilla, and attacks a city like Godzilla. The military can't hurt it. It walks through bridges. My guess is that the lawyers would use all of these points to argue that this T-Rex is too close to Godzilla.
    But Arctic Giant didn't come out second. It came out first. So to me, it stands to reason that BY THEIR OWN STANDARDS, Godzilla is the knock-off. Now, the worst fear Toho's lawyers have is the design of Godzilla falling victim to genericization. It's a legitimate fear, in my opinion. But I find that the argument can be made that this has already happened, and it started before the first Godzilla movie even dropped (between this, Yamir, rhedosaurus, and countless early depictions of the T-Rex).
    However, like I said at the beginning, my opinion doesn't matter. This case would need to be argued in front of a judge for a precedent to be set. It's a case I'd love to see out of my own interest and curiosity (I'm not rooting for either side here). But we likely won't see this case because rarely do Godzilla imposters take Toho's lawyers to court. They usually back off quickly because, let's face it, Godzilla's team's got deep pockets. However as you saw in my Lawsuit video, there was a case where Toho lost in the early 1980s. It could happen again. It could happen a lot! But it doesn't because a judge rarely gets to hear these arguments.
    So is Godzilla a rip-off? I mean, as some of you pointed out, everything's a rip-off and inspiration and blah blah. But LEGALLY, by the standards of their own lawyers, I think you can argue he is. Also, I know it's on record that Godzilla was inspired by Kong and Fathoms, etc., but I'm not aware of any acknowledgement of this cartoon. It could be a coincidence (which, again, is a point for the genericization of this design)! But coincidence or not, by the standards of Toho's lawyers, Fleischer might've had a good case to sue!

    • @theozillanuke8281
      @theozillanuke8281 Рік тому +5

      I think the problem with an argument like that is that no one copyrighted or maintained a copyright on those designs because that was just the image of a T-Rex at the time. Not only that but even the original design had enough features to be copyrighted. His tree bark like skin the oak leaf shaped spikes and the fact that they always made the fire he breathes (with expectation of posters and much later on) a color you would never associate with fire. I never saw anyone use those design features unless it was a direct copy or parody of Godzilla. It makes it hard to claim it is generic if it has two or more of those features. Add to that the issue of no one copyrighting that body layout for a T-REX and that is why it's hard to fight Toho's copyright.

    • @blackheartpopculture
      @blackheartpopculture Рік тому +1

      I was waiting for someone else coming in with another version close to godzilla before he debut. However, wouldn't the rip off be his father. The main godzilla is the son, or at least another generation of the species. So technically, the father I'd the 50a version and would be the knock off during that time.

    • @tyrannozilla1
      @tyrannozilla1 Рік тому +2

      Godzilla is much cooler

    • @CasualRonin
      @CasualRonin Рік тому +7

      It's not about who comes up with the design, but rather, who's the first to make it big. While there are other creations based on early depictions of dinosaurs featured in film before Godzilla, Toho was the only one to really push their character as a franchise instead of a one-and-done, as well as do any sort of licensing and copyright with the character design. The others failed to do so, and thus forfeit their rights to specifics of the design, and thus, cannot bring their case to court. It's like how Oreo, despite being a knock-off of Hydrox, is the one that has taken over the market and is a household name.

    • @SlapstickGenius23
      @SlapstickGenius23 Рік тому

      @@theozillanuke8281 Toho also has Godzilla trademarks.

  • @berandom2000
    @berandom2000 Рік тому +127

    Oh man. I remember seeing this short as a kid on DVD. What a blast from the past!

    • @christophergrant3596
      @christophergrant3596 Рік тому +4

      Wonder if I still have it 🤔

    • @NorrisVaughn
      @NorrisVaughn Рік тому +5

      I remember seeing it on VHS

    • @arcadeperfectreviews2653
      @arcadeperfectreviews2653 Рік тому +4

      Same but VHS cuz I'm .... OOOOOLLLLLDDDD AAAASSSSS FFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCKKKKKK

    • @creategreatness8823
      @creategreatness8823 Рік тому +3

      Excellent blast from the past. WB just did a 4K restoration of all 17 of these shorts and is releasing it on Blu Ray in May! I am SO EXCITED.

    • @theloudstarkirby4203
      @theloudstarkirby4203 Рік тому

      ​@@arcadeperfectreviews2653 your still young

  • @ElGordoBandito
    @ElGordoBandito Рік тому +73

    Those Superman shorts are still really good, and nostalgic for me. My grandpa loves them and we’d watch them every time we’d go for a visit.

    • @creategreatness8823
      @creategreatness8823 Рік тому +3

      WB just restored them all in 4K and is releasing them all onto Blu Ray in May!

    • @baalfgames5318
      @baalfgames5318 Рік тому +1

      I watch a DVD of them weeks ago, and they still hold up. They manage to make the villains threatening, in spite of Superman being OP, because the villains are still a danger to other people.

    • @cha5
      @cha5 Рік тому +1

      @@creategreatness8823 YES!!!🎉

  • @lugialover2496
    @lugialover2496 Рік тому +16

    The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms was a year before Godzilla first came out. Maybe that was the main inspiration

  • @kaijuninja8251
    @kaijuninja8251 Рік тому +61

    Gosh darn that animation from 1942 is amazing!

    • @Redfern42
      @Redfern42 Рік тому +15

      And pretty much "buried" Fleischer Studios. They went so far over budget and over time with those shorts (at least that resulted in a stunning product) that Paramount seized the animation studio's assets and canned the Fleischer brothers. That's why the Popeye shorts started to be presented by Paramount. But the Fleischer Superman legacy would survive in a way. Bruce Timm was greatly inspired by those shorts when the early 90s Batman animated series was being developed.

  • @chadgorosaurus4898
    @chadgorosaurus4898 Рік тому +87

    It's most likely a coincidence.
    The Arctic Giant is probably based on classic western dragons and Godzilla is based on different dinosaurs and partially eastern dragons.

    • @dragonstormx
      @dragonstormx Рік тому +20

      It is a coincidence Godzilla takes far more cues from The Beast From 20,000 Fathoms, but it is a fun coincidence.
      As another fun coincidence, Superman's shorts saw him fighting a Nazi who dressed up as a Klansman. A few years in his radio show, Superman would fight the KKK.

    • @GodzillaKaijuGK
      @GodzillaKaijuGK Рік тому +3

      godzilla was based off atomic and hydrogen bombs

    • @dominicleblanc8041
      @dominicleblanc8041 Рік тому

      I've seen you comment on another video

  • @humachine6738
    @humachine6738 Рік тому +14

    When I was a VERY young kid, I remember seeing that scene where the artic giant destroys the bridge on TV and didn't see any footage after, and for years I had no idea where it was from. That scene captivated me because of how well it was animated. It wasn't until I rented a DVD copy of those Fleisher Superman cartoons during my preteens that I discovered it was from this cartoon!
    I highly recommend checking out the rest of the Fleisher Superman cartoons. I am a huge superhero fan and those cartoons were SO influential to modern superhero cartoons. We wouldn't have the best Batman on TV without the Fleisher Superman cartoons!

  • @brandonspain12345
    @brandonspain12345 Рік тому +55

    "This looks like a job for Superman."
    (Goes in a room to change)
    "Um, sir, this is the lady's room..."
    "I know."

    • @cha5
      @cha5 Рік тому +2

      😂

  • @MoonMoon-cl4co
    @MoonMoon-cl4co Рік тому +56

    Wow this is really neat! I never heard of this before! I do think the similarities between the two might just be coincidence- Godzilla does take a lot of inspiration from their likes of King Kong and Rhedosaurus! Though there is still a chance that at least 1 person working on Godzilla had seen this cartoon and used it as inspiration!

    • @c-o-b-o-2010
      @c-o-b-o-2010 Рік тому +5

      That is true. Superman was very popular at the time and that includes the cartoons.

    • @erdricktorest5427
      @erdricktorest5427 Рік тому +7

      Well timeline wise, Japan would be getting nothing from us when this cartoon originally debuted. It wouldn’t be till the 1950’s that western culture would really catch on. Superman’s popularity in Japan would grow in this time, even getting his own manga from the creator of Speed Racer.
      It’s possible, but timeline wise it’s tricky.

  • @mkdemigodzillawarrior
    @mkdemigodzillawarrior Рік тому +23

    Oh I recall seeing this short! I knew I wasn’t the only one who notice the similarities. Also…so weird to see Gabara actually helping…even if it is for a sentence.
    Also…does this review take place before Godzilla vs Jet Jaguar?

    • @Cdr2002
      @Cdr2002 Рік тому

      Oh hey

    • @MoonMoon-cl4co
      @MoonMoon-cl4co Рік тому

      I don´t think any of the reviews are really canon-?

    • @thechimpmaster
      @thechimpmaster Рік тому +1

      The reviews are a separate universe as shown during Destroy All Godzillas. Orga referenced the reviews in the main series once, but he can break the fourth wall so that doesn't count.

    • @mkdemigodzillawarrior
      @mkdemigodzillawarrior Рік тому

      @@thechimpmaster I mean…the Rodan review seems to take place after Episode 102.

  • @BrokeProductions
    @BrokeProductions Рік тому +12

    This was actually the only Superman thing I had to watch as a kid. It was on a 3 pack at Big Lots or something with the 1925 Lost World and The Giant Gila Monster. Some of my favorite movies as a kid

  • @creategreatness8823
    @creategreatness8823 Рік тому +5

    The cool thing is that ALL of these shorts have been restored in 4K by WB and are being released onto Blu Ray in May! They are going to look leaps and bounds better than any of the public domain VHS, DVD or HD upscales that have been spread around UA-cam and elsewhere.

  • @Hulkzilla0
    @Hulkzilla0 Рік тому +13

    As a kid I watched Superman: The Arctic Giant so many times.

  • @esteban138
    @esteban138 Рік тому +26

    As someone that lists Superman and Godzilla as my favorite fictional characters, I’m happy to see you giving this short a little love… but still disappointed that we never got a real Godzilla vs Superman crossover.

    • @AEsir_Goji
      @AEsir_Goji Рік тому +5

      Well, about that XD

    • @spasebar
      @spasebar Рік тому +2

      Funny because a Justice League vs Godzilla vs Kong Kong comic just got announced

  • @levigifford3871
    @levigifford3871 Рік тому +7

    As a kid, my dad got me this episode on DVD! As a fan of Godzilla and super heros, this was right up my alley! I got excited as it appeared to have Godzilla and Superman on the cover! I thought it was pretty cool! Superman Vs Monsters and Villains was the name of the DVD!

  • @NorrisVaughn
    @NorrisVaughn Рік тому +11

    Great to see Orga again. I've been wondering if we were going to get another episode

  • @billcipherfankamenvorvanov9208

    Damn, I didn´t know I missed Gabara until they showed up here. Nice to see another Orga review!

  • @MegatronEnthusiast
    @MegatronEnthusiast Рік тому +4

    Headcanon: All the monsters in this series can break the fourth wall but Orga gets transported between series’ randomly, hints why he’s confused when Megalon can’t see MIB’s hand or the camera in episode 100.

  • @baalfgames5318
    @baalfgames5318 Рік тому +1

    Just speaking about Arctic Giant, because Superman never kills his opponent (intentionally and at the time, anyway) I always loved how he just knocks the poor thing down, starts tieing a street light around it's neck before it fades to a newspaper reel, and then it's revealed the monster was relocated to somewhere, probably some high-security zoo or something.

  • @atmaramsawant517
    @atmaramsawant517 Рік тому +8

    Just look how awesome the animation is for a cartoon made in 1940s

  • @93Monstermike
    @93Monstermike Рік тому +11

    Out of all the Fleischer Superman cartoons, this one is my favorite!

  • @Magicghost23
    @Magicghost23 Рік тому +6

    This is the role Godzilla had to do before he made it big.

  • @UJEvans
    @UJEvans Рік тому +6

    With how many major stories he misses, I'm surprised Clark hasn't been fired from the Daily Planet yet

    • @lordkaijux5262
      @lordkaijux5262 Рік тому

      -Or how nobody ever figures out that he's secretly Superman.-

    • @christopherwall2121
      @christopherwall2121 Рік тому

      @@lordkaijux5262 ...Wait, take off those glasses!

  • @nicholasrobson1430
    @nicholasrobson1430 Рік тому +2

    I don't care if Godzilla is a knock-off, I still think he's awesome. Also the Beast from 20,000 Fathoms was based on a short story called The Fog Horn by Ray Bradbury, who was Ray Harryhausen's best friend.

  • @kingtanichi
    @kingtanichi Рік тому +5

    6:17 This even more awesomely meta when you think of the 2014 Godzilla movie...

    • @lordkaijux5262
      @lordkaijux5262 Рік тому

      Godzilla just really hates bridges. Even the latest MonsterVerse movie shows Godzilla slicing a bridge in half with his dorsal fins during his landfall in Hong Kong.

    • @ASR-Ansori
      @ASR-Ansori Рік тому

      It's hardly unique to the 2014 film and GvK, he does it in quite a few other films xD

    • @johnbarrett3615
      @johnbarrett3615 Рік тому

      @@lordkaijux5262 The Lore Keeps Expanding....

  • @MICOMeister95
    @MICOMeister95 Рік тому +11

    Dude i just love your videos so much.
    They bright up my day! 😀
    Also glad that Oooooorgas back in the house

  • @jonathansalazar4630
    @jonathansalazar4630 Рік тому +3

    The Simpsons- Lisa: I think godzilla is a lot bigger than superman Homer:It's not in scale

  • @kingtanichi
    @kingtanichi Рік тому +2

    Has it ever occurred to anyone that DC is the major comics publisher which hasn't had Godzilla yet?
    Toho leased him out to Marvel in the 70s, Dark Horse in the 90s, and IDW in the 2010s! Does this mean that we'll finally get an official canon Godzilla/Superman crossover in the 2030s?

  • @bdtiger0770
    @bdtiger0770 Рік тому +2

    4:53 Arctic giants melting somehow reminds me of the resurrection of Megatron in Transformers (2007).

  • @ivane5110
    @ivane5110 Рік тому +2

    I've seen this short a few times over the years but now I can enjoy it as an unofficial Godzilla/Superman crossover, thanks. And it also makes me desperately want some live action version of this (though I'd settle for one of the Godzilla comic with the Champions, Avengers or FF).

  • @joel1245
    @joel1245 Рік тому +2

    You know you're screwed when a Kaiju bully presents all the solid facts.

  • @Bezaliel13
    @Bezaliel13 Рік тому +4

    Kind of dumb nobody thought to use this nor the Rhedosaurus to indirectly reference Godzilla instead of just legally "not Godzilla," like in the bootlegs review.

  • @spunkydunky9849
    @spunkydunky9849 Рік тому +3

    I mean me personally, I don't think he's a ripoff, at least not intentionally: the idea of a giant reptilian monster destroying cities has been a thing since forever with like dragons and shit, so it's not unfathomable that someone also came up with the idea of some giant lizard toppling buildings

  • @gingersmith748
    @gingersmith748 10 місяців тому +1

    At Putnam Museum, they have clips of Superman vs Arctic Monster, It's on this thing so you can make a video, I used those to make "Godzilla vs Superman"

  • @Cdr2002
    @Cdr2002 Рік тому +3

    I dunno, I think Godzilla made a very compelling argument at the very end there

  • @ethanrocksu12
    @ethanrocksu12 Рік тому +3

    Never been so excited to see a new video from a UA-camr ever. Bless you for the good vibes my friend.

  • @SerpentNight
    @SerpentNight Рік тому +1

    I don't think it is because the U.S. and Japan were at war when 'The Arctic Giant' had its debut so it obviously wasn't going to get a Japanese release and if it followed the usual patterns of such short it probably got stowed away after its run, rarely if ever being seen again until color television became prominent in the early 60's. It is well established that Godzilla was inspired by 'The Beast From 20,000 Fathoms', circa 1953 and like 'The Arctic Giant' the titular creatures gets thawed out of a glacier. There's a good chance that someone who worked on '-Beast-' at least remembered '-Giant', even if they hadn't seen it recently. But the similarities between the Giant and Godzilla I think can be chalked up to the misconceptions that existed in the public about dinosaurs at the time; the vertical poster, dorsal ridge, serpentine tail, etc.

  • @raikojanes5972
    @raikojanes5972 Рік тому +2

    wow, i remember this, well ok i wasn't born in the 40's, i was born at 2003, but i do remember watching this when i was young, i think my family has a superman collection dvd where it had all the superman shorts in it
    man i'm gonna be 20 this year, i feel old now

  • @nickzilla20
    @nickzilla20 Рік тому +1

    Aw great a new Orga review. But if you do another Orga, I hope one day you talks about Attack of the Super Monsters. It’s one of those so bad it’s good kind of films and love to here your thoughts ( and what jokes you would make with it).

  • @creategreatness8823
    @creategreatness8823 Рік тому +1

    I think some have spoken about how "The Arctic Giant" even predates the "The Fog Horn" by 9 years. The Fog Horn is a short story by Ray Bradbury upon which "The Beast From 20,000 Fathoms" was based. The ORIGINAL TITLE of that story was "The Beast From 20,000 Fathoms" and that film's producers bought the rights to the story and then Bradbury changed the name of the story.
    So it predates Godzilla by 12 years, predates the "Godzilla film influence" by 11 years, and predates the "literature genesis point" of that "Godzilla film influence" by NINE years.
    And it has a ton of the key tropes of both. A creature awakened after being frozen in ice is the exact origin of The Best from 20K...and yet this short did it YEARS earlier in a very famous and widely seen fashion.
    And of course, the overall design and posture are very much "Proto-Godzilla" in many ways.
    Beast and Godzilla owe a LOT to The Arctic Giant

  • @Garryzilla
    @Garryzilla Рік тому +2

    Ok I know haven’t commented on this but the artic giant is actually the first kaiju animated in animation before some other animated kaiju came along and even before kong, godzilla, gamera, and other famous kaiju became animated but if the artic giant ain’t the first kaiju To be animated then who’s really the first kaiju to be animated

  • @JacobKaiju
    @JacobKaiju Рік тому +13

    Eh, nothing is truly original

  • @jackofallclaws6672
    @jackofallclaws6672 Рік тому +4

    A giant monster in a zoo…HOLY CRAP, THIS SHORT PREDICTED GORGO!

  • @christianbontempo8859
    @christianbontempo8859 9 місяців тому +1

    How ironic, now that we have the new Justice League Vs Godzilla Vs Kong, things are coming full circle.

  • @THANATOS-PRIME
    @THANATOS-PRIME Рік тому +1

    Great video man! I had an episode of this cartoon on VHS. When I was a kid we’re superman had to fight some strange flying robots.

    • @orinanime
      @orinanime Рік тому

      Superman vs The Mechanical Monsters.
      WB is releasing a complete set on Blu-ray in May

  • @blackheartpopculture
    @blackheartpopculture Рік тому +2

    I'm so happy to get Orga. Haven't seen him much or his segment lately. He could continue the classics like he did with Rodan.

  • @Mokole1985
    @Mokole1985 Рік тому +1

    Did they mimic the scene where Artic Giant walks through the street and his tail hits a building in Zilla 98?

  • @orionparish9858
    @orionparish9858 Рік тому +1

    It ultimately doesn't matter, because nobody went after Toho about Godzilla and being a supposed ripp off of this cartoon. A case that I don't think Toho would've won if Fleischer had.
    Plus the Arctic Giant feels more like a possible inspiration, and Godzilla is different enough that Fleischer probably didn't see any point.

  • @ShinGoji1987Official
    @ShinGoji1987Official Рік тому +1

    I remember being bummed out as a kid that Superman beat the Godzilla like Dino in that short lol. And wow is that animation amazing!

  • @disneyknightspadilla1406
    @disneyknightspadilla1406 10 місяців тому +2

    The Arctic giant did look like Godzilla because tyrannosaurus rex’s don’t have four fingers or mohawk spine . Or even shaped like that.

  • @sarbo2335
    @sarbo2335 Рік тому

    Man, I remember I used to have an old VHS of Superman cartoons, this video brought back memories man

  • @charcoal6017
    @charcoal6017 Рік тому +2

    Tbh I hope Toho gives Zone Fighter more love, having seen those keychains
    Imagine more well proportioned vinyl figures!

  • @TheGodofShades
    @TheGodofShades Рік тому

    Finally, it’s been a long time since we’ve seen a Orga reviews.

  • @lordkaijux5262
    @lordkaijux5262 Рік тому +3

    I love the hypocritical aura that Orga is spewing in this video by claiming that Godzilla is a "rip-off" despite the fact that he was formally a collective mass of formless aliens fused with Godzilla's DNA.

    • @darktooth4576
      @darktooth4576 Рік тому +1

      On the plus side Orga does look physically different.

  • @machinedragonnero7740
    @machinedragonnero7740 Рік тому

    I actually have a DVD of the Superman videos and the Arctic giant is on there. Man from 1942 I always wondered what era they Superman cartoons were from. Always love watching them as a kid and I really like this one. Hey wait a minute that short was longer than this video. Does that make the video a rip off of something?

  • @robolizard222
    @robolizard222 Рік тому

    Only thing I think that makes Goji unique in the “giant lizard Dino” comparisons is his radioactive origins. Although that’s not too unique in that many 50’s critters got that. Just that Goji was the first to combine the massive lizard symbolism and radiation origins.
    Helps too that the movie was effective and emotional unlike many other films of its age.

  • @ASR-Ansori
    @ASR-Ansori Рік тому +3

    Godzilla takes after King Kong, the Arctic Giant and the Rhedosaurus, that's hardly a secret that was kept by the Big G's original creator, at least with Kong and the Rhedosaurus, but the Fleischer Superman shorts were so huge throughout other parts of the globe that I have no doubts there was some influence there as well.
    Everything takes after something at the end of the day, even the mighty Eighth Wonder takes notes from the mythical tales of giant apes from the jungle that would often kidnap women, there's a late 1880s French statue of that matter that might've influenced the mighty Kong too, but of course, the 1933 classic was the first to do many things and even pioneered others in the world of cinema, so it keeps receiving admiration to this day, as does Ray Harryhausen's work and the Fleischer studios' influence on early animation.
    We wouldn't be where we are without others inspiring us, after all... Just make sure you're not copying those who inspire you, though :p

    • @MonsterIslandBuddies
      @MonsterIslandBuddies  Рік тому +5

      Agree but this looks like a copy. The only thing missing is the atomic breath. All I’m saying is what I said in the first sentence of the video: if this came out today, Toho’s lawyers would come knocking. And that feels off to me.

    • @Bezaliel13
      @Bezaliel13 Рік тому

      @@MonsterIslandBuddies
      Those legally distinct bootlegs probably could have just tried referencing this "dino" or the Rhedosaurus in hindsight.

    • @MonsterIslandBuddies
      @MonsterIslandBuddies  Рік тому +3

      True! Toho’s lawyers’ worst scenario is the genericization of Godzilla. I argue that the genericization has already happened, possibly even before the first Godzilla movie!

    • @Bezaliel13
      @Bezaliel13 Рік тому +3

      @@MonsterIslandBuddies
      At least everybody knows dinosaurs were never upright. Also, Toho has been more experimental with Godzilla's redesigns.

  • @Guardian_of_Chaos
    @Guardian_of_Chaos Рік тому +3

    This is nice to see,orga reviews are always a fun time

  • @prehistorichero2755
    @prehistorichero2755 Рік тому

    When I heard of this from a book of movie monsters, I thought it's another Kaiju movie about an oversized Tyrannosaurus frozen in the arctic until awakened by human interference, and caused a rampage in a city, but it turned out to be a superman episode. In fact, because of it, as a kid, I always imagined a hyper-evolved aquatic T-rex as a Kaiju rampaging in L.A. to lay eggs here which inspires the Godzilla 1998 I watched.

  • @GarretTheHedeghog
    @GarretTheHedeghog Рік тому +2

    Too be fair, t.rex was thought to kangaroo stance until the 80s

  • @KameZX
    @KameZX Рік тому

    Were getting a 4K remaster of the Fleischer Superman show on Blu ray soon

  • @macwade2755
    @macwade2755 11 місяців тому

    Great video! When are you going to review Godzilla the Series?

  • @MisterSouji
    @MisterSouji Рік тому +2

    You know if Superman had gone after the monster instead of having a conversation with Lois, he would have stopped it before it wrecked the dam and damaged the rest of the city.

  • @dencocreations1701
    @dencocreations1701 Рік тому +1

    Nice to see Orga is still in love with a block of wood :/

  • @nickzilla20
    @nickzilla20 Рік тому +1

    Forgot to say this like I knew Godzilla May of taken some inspiration from the beast from 20,000 fathoms ( and Kong to an extent) but I never new about the arctic beast. Actually I never knew about these old Superman cartoons until recently.

  • @fizz576
    @fizz576 Рік тому +1

    Man, I love Fleischers cartoons, but despite seeing this one multiple times over the years, I never really thought about how this godzilla like monster predates the big g buy more than ten years.

  • @christianbontempo8859
    @christianbontempo8859 Рік тому +2

    Who remembers seeing clips of this cartoon when they watched DK’s Eyewitness series? The episode about Dinosaurs in particular.

  • @The_disassembler
    @The_disassembler Рік тому +9

    Great video

  • @BimbelyGimbly
    @BimbelyGimbly Рік тому +1

    This was a great video on an amazing cartoon! But as a Fleischer aficionado, I've only got one disgruntlement, and that's involving you crediting Dave Fleischer as the director. That credit meant something very different over there, Dave was more of a "creative supervisor" than an actual director, the de-facto director's credit was actually given to the first credited animator, in this case, its Willard Bowsky. A very common mistake for those not in the know, but other than that, great video!

    • @MonsterIslandBuddies
      @MonsterIslandBuddies  Рік тому +6

      I mean yeah, I can see why it’s a common mistake since the title card literally says “Directed by Dave Feischer” lol. I don’t doubt you at all though, we know from Batman how wishy-washy proper credit was in the 1940s

  • @dingoeasy
    @dingoeasy Рік тому

    I'm so happy that orgas movie review shiw came back. Please make more

  • @SonGoku-yf6wk
    @SonGoku-yf6wk Рік тому +1

    Man I had a dvd with all these old cartoons of Superman and Popeye it was nostalgic thanks mib

    • @orinanime
      @orinanime Рік тому

      A new Blu-ray is coming out in May

  • @pedroaugusto102011
    @pedroaugusto102011 Рік тому

    Do you think you can scan those mangazines?

  • @davidmeza1296
    @davidmeza1296 Рік тому

    There is a King Kong inspired episode of this Superman cartoon called Terror on the Midway it's about a circus gorilla named Gigantic who goes on a rampage after a monkey accidentally unlocks his wagon cage.

  • @jackdediosgonzalez2953
    @jackdediosgonzalez2953 Рік тому

    Godzilla was 2 movies in 1954.1 gojira full Japanese version.2 godzilla king of the monsters with American actors and Raymond burr.jirras was in the 60s toho had a history of making multiple suits.

  • @AlphaGodzillaBuddies
    @AlphaGodzillaBuddies Рік тому

    Can you do a review of the Gamera trilogy?

  • @Cdr2002
    @Cdr2002 Рік тому +3

    Never would’ve thought I’d see Godzilla and Taylor Swift going through similar emotions

  • @xolta11
    @xolta11 Рік тому +1

    As A kid I always called this cartoon Superman Vs Godzilla.

  • @whitewing2
    @whitewing2 Рік тому

    Well, Remember,
    Godzilla’s original design is a hybrid of Gorilla and a whale
    thats why he was named Gojira in the 1st place… wonder if they stick to that design

  • @brycevo
    @brycevo Рік тому +3

    If this happened now, they'd be sued. But it's really neat

  • @jaysonrogoz8822
    @jaysonrogoz8822 Рік тому

    Good to see you again Orga

  • @codster9
    @codster9 10 місяців тому

    6:17 - Godzilla 2014
    6:26 - Godzilla 1998

  • @Bruce_shark-08
    @Bruce_shark-08 Рік тому +1

    Well Godzilla actually is a rip-off or was meant to be, he was primarily inspired by Rhedosaurus (the beast from 20,000 fathoms) and the movie would be called the monster from 20,000 miles (or something like that) godzilla also took a little inspiration from king Kong, kinda interesting since godzillas name is derived from a gorilla and a whale and the director of Gojira (1954) confirmed godzilla was meant to be a knock-off so unfortunately godzilla indeed is a knock-off so its technically Rhedosaurus that is supposed to be king of the monsters if you really think about it (although he is pretty weak and smol)

  • @Redpheris
    @Redpheris Рік тому +1

    what about raptar from rugrats? is it possible godzilla is a rip off of raptar?

  • @michelleportelli5487
    @michelleportelli5487 Рік тому +1

    Godzilla is not a rip off and he didn't rip off the arctic giant and
    The beast from 20,000 fathoms they just inspired him

  • @Phantanos
    @Phantanos Рік тому +1

    I've always said it was a rip off of the Arctic Giant.
    If the Arctic giant was just shown in silhouette;
    some people may say it was GODZILLA's.
    Due to it having 4 fingers 3 toes on it.
    So future toy makers,
    (with an itch to make a toy looking like it),
    can say the outline is in the public domain
    and TOHO CAN'T DO SQUAT ABOUT IT!

  • @tyrannozilla1
    @tyrannozilla1 Рік тому

    will Rhedosaurus come to an episode of Monster Island Buddies?

  • @thegamegrump2825
    @thegamegrump2825 Рік тому

    Well looks who still around and still making movies that right Godzilla and Japan has another Godzilla in the works and I can't wait to see it

  • @nicholascooney
    @nicholascooney Рік тому +2

    Imagine Toho STILL trying to sue

  • @theloudstarkirby4203
    @theloudstarkirby4203 Рік тому

    Can you do a video on that one time Godzilla was in marvel comics

  • @sammygreen9652
    @sammygreen9652 Рік тому

    You should review some of the episodes from The New Adventures of Superman from the 1960s or 1970s because he battles a lot of giant monsters that are similar to one's from other movies.

  • @BiitoreinGoji94
    @BiitoreinGoji94 Рік тому +1

    "Hmm... suspicious."
    Points to whoever gets the reference

  • @mightyfilm
    @mightyfilm Рік тому +2

    I always thought those Superman cartoons were ahead of their time. Well, minus the WW II shorts. It's a shame the studio shut down before they could get around to doing other super hero shorts. Imagine if they got the license for Batman at the time.

    • @hydrolito
      @hydrolito Рік тому +1

      Superman copied earlier characters Hugo Hercules, Popeye, Gladiator, Doc Savage, and Lothar.

    • @Redfern42
      @Redfern42 Рік тому

      By "degrees of separation", they did...in a way. Bruce Timm was greatly inspired by the Fleischer shorts when developing "Batman: the Animated Series". Really, one could drop Timm's character designs into those Superman shorts and they'd blend right into the scenes.

    • @mightyfilm
      @mightyfilm Рік тому

      @@Redfern42No doubt the Timm-verse was inspired partially by these shorts, but we've had several Batman cartoons including the team up Super Friends series before then. I'm talking about what if they had animated Batman cartoons similar to these back then. I know the live action serials were made around that time, but if they had a cartoon back then, how would it have shaped the Bat-franchise? Would we have had the super hero cartoon boom in the 40's instead of the 60's? The only other theatrical super hero cartoon shorts series around the time was Mighty Mouse.

    • @Redfern42
      @Redfern42 Рік тому

      @@mightyfilm Ah, I think I get it. Would the creation of Batman animated shorts in the early 40s altered the couse of his later evolution? Could very well be. After all, Superman's ability to outright fly came from the Fleischer short. In the first, he simply "leaped" long distances and heights (as in "tall buildings in a single bound"). But with the following segments, the Fleischer crew opted to have Supes flat out fly. That power was later adapted to the comics. What might they have presented with Batman/ Is it possible they might have done a "Peter Parker" (tears before he was created), having Bruce get bitten by a bat and acquire special abilities?! (As opposed to rabies...) Not saying that would have been a good, or a bad idea, just something that could have changed the course of Batman (who, as a property, only a few years old at that time). Something to ponder, certainly!

    • @mightyfilm
      @mightyfilm Рік тому

      @@Redfern42 Not to mention there wasn't exactly a wealth of action based cartoon shorts in the golden era of theatrical animation. I'm surprised Superman didn't start more of a trend there.

  • @ArawnsFire
    @ArawnsFire Рік тому

    Fun Fact : The Rhedosaurus was also awakened by an Atomic testing. I suppose the only one who truly knows was the Late Great Ray Bradbury who penned The Foghorn. Which was the inspiration for both films.
    Fun Fact : Brie Larson, eewww.

  • @Gigatech151
    @Gigatech151 Рік тому

    That 3rd figure that appears, made me laugh a lot. What the name of that monster?

  • @lachlanjenkin1659
    @lachlanjenkin1659 Рік тому +1

    Hey monster island buddies I have another rip off of Godzilla Batman unlimited mechs vs mutants which features killer croc growing to Godzilla size killer croc shooting a similar blue breath and a Godzilla vs Kong ripoff fight between killer croc and bane you got to see it it trust me it came out in 2016

  • @arcailecorp
    @arcailecorp Рік тому

    why is the Godzilla movie black and white and that anime is colored

  • @queenglamazona8789
    @queenglamazona8789 Рік тому +1

    Loved the Cartoon where the Man of Steel fought the Arctic Giant. It's the Closest we'll ever come to seeing Superman vs Godzilla.

  • @GodzillaKaijuGK
    @GodzillaKaijuGK Рік тому

    godzilla takes no insparation from this and toho probably didnt even know this existed lol

  • @brewesharp3129
    @brewesharp3129 Рік тому

    I used to own a dvd with all these on it. I believe there were 22 in total.