@@WROHRC dude they had a fucking stock YXZ in this video. A XX is leaps and bounds ahead of a YXZ. They handle just as well if not better than any car on the market prior to the speed, new maverick or Pro/Turbo R. They’re just lacking power compared to the turbo cars
Brakes way before the line on the can ams brakes way after the line with the pro Rs with 35s lol wow. Smh is this the last and only video because i didnt see any of those peoples final results. Im sorry but wtf was this?
Your brake test was so flawed it was hilarious. You were so inconsistent as to when you applied the brakes for each car, I mean, you did see the cone right? LOL
Would you go over the rigs that you’re comparing? They are not all stock or new. The YXZ is a pre-2019 model with an aftermarket cage, exhaust, and tire size at least. Some are carrying heavy accessories while others aren’t.
A spare tire and lights aren’t going to make much of a difference. If we do this again we would definitely talk about the year and model. The chalking part was finding unmolested drivetrains
My pro r completely fell apart with less than 200 miles on it. One minute we were driving at 30 mph on a flat dirt road, the next we were stopped with a sheared main frame and broken ball joints around $17k in repairs. Very disappointed in polaris.
No. They said my car should have the updated compound. They tested their cars on the pavement. This is a true dirt test. I think my brakes need to be bled, I did make speed aware of that.
If the SPEED UTV locked up on the pavement, it should have locked up on the dirt, your "True Dirt Test" is so flawed its hiliarious. LOL. If you cannot bleed your own brakes, then LORD HELP YOU! LOL Maybe you should have let everyone know that before the "BS Shootout" you all are using as a basline. lol
Need the new updated pads from Speed. That car clearly still has the old ones. Also the XRC brakes suck on that test car or the ones on my XRC are really good.
Don't take Desert SXS as the Holy Grail of testing, far far from it. The brake test was so flawed and they did mention that the brakes may have needed to be bled....funny that they were raeching out to SPEED for a solution instead of bleeding the brakes themselves. LOL
Great video. Love seeing how all the cars handle over g outs. Disappointed that Speed has failed on stock breaks. They appear to be so bad i would consider it a serious safety concern and could see legal safety issues. Robby should hurry and fix the issue. It is totally unacceptable for a performance utv.
Don't take Desert SXS as the Holy Grail of testing, far far from it. The brake test was so flawed and they did mention that the brakes may have needed to be bled....funny that they were raeching out to SPEED for a solution instead of bleeding the brakes themselves. LOL
It’s crazy there are no Honda Talons. I love my 2019 Honda Talon. It’s no speed Demond by any means and is way under powered compared to what’s out there. Honda won’t do what the people ask for so I’m doing it myself. I have the full HCR 72” Long Travel. Full Shock Therapy spring kit. Rock Crusher Wheels. 33” System3 RT320 tires. Krash Off Road cage. There is a full Alba Racing motor in the works. With the 25% gear reduction from Reduction Boss it should give me around 150 - 155 HP none Turbo to the wheels. Fingers are crossed.
Something’s gotta be done about those speed brakes and it shouldn’t have to be the Wilwood upgrade. I find it very strange that Robby would put these cars out with brakes that bad. This is the third speed car I’ve seen with horrible brakes. The XX has awesome brakes, mine will lock up all 4 at just about any speed. Granted, it’s lighter and has smaller tires.
Driving style is why there can be a variety of different machines that sell well. I own an x3 and I thought this would be the last season with it and I would get a Maverick R. After seeing the videos of it and in person at the sand show, I am not a fan. I am now looking at pro-r or speed. I want to see the speed in the dunes for a season and with the speed key. I do really like how light the x3 is, none of the new machines are light and none seem as nimble.
As a talon owner they just dont stack up against the turbo machines in the big stuff stock here on the east in the woods theres a ton of them would be cool to compare honda to can am dct though but thats about it lol
Thanks for a great shootout video! You should have had a category for safety. Ask all seven drivers what car they would choose if they were in a rollover crash.
Funny how your saying CARS.. because the price is about right for a Car and they don't last as a long.. Yet Should 100% should last as a long as an automotive product.
Speed car also had a spare. Not Speed fault the other mfgs didn’t make it safer to carry a spare like most will do in the desert. With speed you get a lower center of gravity.
Seems the more truly independent reviews come out for the Maverick R, the less impressive it is. Not really surprised. The fact there was literally no one saying anything negative at all about the car during the canam events was suspicious.
There is a reason they avoided specific people when it came to those events. It's been made clear in the past that some manufactures were offering quite a bit to youtubers that would be willing to hype up their products.
Man all these negative reviews of the Maverick R really has me questioning the deposit I have on one. What’s everyone’s opinion on Maverick R vs Pro R?
Sorry dude but the Speed motor Z1 copy is just not fast anymore, 8 years ago the rzr z1 turbocharger was fast untill X3 came out forced popo to do pro R
What gives with some cars with spare tires and some not? Lol one car even had one ratched to the roof... gave up on it being a fair test the second i saw that... did literally nobody there understand how weight works? I don't understand how someone could put in all that work for nothing...
Cool to see this test. I understand the challenges of getting a group of completely stock cars together. There’s just too many variables such as spare tires, different tire sizes, aftermarket parts that add weight like cages etc. Again appreciate the effort but hard to put too much stock into it
Nice to see all the top machines together- I always liked the speed but didn’t want to wait 2 years to get one lol 😂 can’t wait to see u ride the maverick r around the track n dune it n see how it does -
Seems like the speed is the worst of all things id be pretty bummed to pay all that and wait that long to get something that sounds that bad , stops that bad etc
@@cautionontherun30 Pro R turbo or supercharged beats all these cars . IF Polaris ever brings out a turbo 2.0 R id buy for now the 4 cyl all motor works effortless and will outlast smaller motors
It seems that as much R&D went into the Speed I feel it has a lot of disappointing shortcomings. Tons of anticipation was focused on that machine! In my opinion it fell short of the hype. Although I will say it’s a sweet looking ride.
@@bmxdad09 even if it’s just one do you think that is acceptable? How many years or R&D went into that machine? I hear the brakes are bad, I watched a release video where the wiring harness was ripped out by the drive train, and it doesn’t seem to be very fast compared to machines in its class. Sure it still needs “the red key” to reach its full potential. So maybe “ a lot “ was a bit strong. Nevertheless this machine was supposed to be leaps and bounds better than the competitors .Polaris and Can Am caught up before the Speed even showed up to the party. Just my opinion, I’m not trying to change your mind and you aren’t changing mine. Cool looking machine though.
@@tayalyn08 The amount of years/R&D that went into the Speed is actually substantially less than Polaris or Can-Am put into the ProR or the MavR. Yet, you see the same amount of small issues in both of those manufacturers. While you didn't see it, or probably know about it. The ProR and MavR were both in testing/R&D for 5 years before they were released.
Someone please put an aftermarket exhaust on the speed car it always sounds like a cow in labor 😂!
It really does 😂. It sounds so bad
@@WashproBrad once it gets brought to you attention you will never hear it any other way 😆!
Once you put a exhaust it voids warranty fyi for all the speed folks
F'ing hilarious
That utv needs a dual clutch transmision is what it is
Would have been cool to see the XX in there as well. Basically the first gen speed car
I mean the xx with the speed 77 kit maybe . But a stock xx? No chance
@@WROHRC dude they had a fucking stock YXZ in this video. A XX is leaps and bounds ahead of a YXZ. They handle just as well if not better than any car on the market prior to the speed, new maverick or Pro/Turbo R. They’re just lacking power compared to the turbo cars
What is the deal with all the XX hate……? They are literally first gen speed cars! People love to hate Arctic cat.
Brakes way before the line on the can ams brakes way after the line with the pro Rs with 35s lol wow. Smh is this the last and only video because i didnt see any of those peoples final results. Im sorry but wtf was this?
Great job, I look forward to a visit with my x3 to see where I stand after way too many mods.
Your brake test was so flawed it was hilarious. You were so inconsistent as to when you applied the brakes for each car, I mean, you did see the cone right? LOL
Turbo S still holding its own🔥
Hell yeah, came here to say the same. Great platform
The speed suspension with zero electronics is the best. No fancy gimmicks. Just great design and function. Please fix the brakes 🙏
We saw the suspension in the hammers already. 😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆
The gimic is their "quality" and their crybaby creator
Fox is better
@@lowrider94ss fox is better than all period.
Where was the Wildcat XX?
Would you go over the rigs that you’re comparing? They are not all stock or new. The YXZ is a pre-2019 model with an aftermarket cage, exhaust, and tire size at least. Some are carrying heavy accessories while others aren’t.
2019+ perform way better and are a decent amount faster
A spare tire and lights aren’t going to make much of a difference.
If we do this again we would definitely talk about the year and model. The chalking part was finding unmolested drivetrains
Interesting, the Speed car ranked highest in suspension among the new technology electronics and smart shocks of the other cars. 👍
Brake test should have been done on pavement too many factors on loose dirt. But then again i guess thats real life offroad aswell.
Already been done
My pro r completely fell apart with less than 200 miles on it. One minute we were driving at 30 mph on a flat dirt road, the next we were stopped with a sheared main frame and broken ball joints around $17k in repairs. Very disappointed in polaris.
Oh wow that sucks sorry to hear I have the lemon in a mav r
RG said break pedal is long to push harder girls 😂
Awesome video thank you guys for putting together the comparison!
Much better content than pointless sxs blogs channel.
I seen Robby test different compound pads and said they would be changing pads. Have you been notified of anything on this from speed
No. They said my car should have the updated compound. They tested their cars on the pavement. This is a true dirt test. I think my brakes need to be bled, I did make speed aware of that.
If the SPEED UTV locked up on the pavement, it should have locked up on the dirt, your "True Dirt Test" is so flawed its hiliarious. LOL. If you cannot bleed your own brakes, then LORD HELP YOU! LOL Maybe you should have let everyone know that before the "BS Shootout" you all are using as a basline. lol
Thanks for getting the videos out as fast as possible. You guys are getting honest feedback out there quick 🤙🏼
Need the new updated pads from Speed. That car clearly still has the old ones. Also the XRC brakes suck on that test car or the ones on my XRC are really good.
Don't take Desert SXS as the Holy Grail of testing, far far from it. The brake test was so flawed and they did mention that the brakes may have needed to be bled....funny that they were raeching out to SPEED for a solution instead of bleeding the brakes themselves. LOL
Momentum and weight of a 4 seater compared to a lighter 2 seater isn’t really apples to apples.
Surely those high mounted spare tires effected results somewhat.
100%
Great video. Love seeing how all the cars handle over g outs. Disappointed that Speed has failed on stock breaks. They appear to be so bad i would consider it a serious safety concern and could see legal safety issues. Robby should hurry and fix the issue. It is totally unacceptable for a performance utv.
He already has and replacing the brake pads. UA-cam has vid showing testing and locks up brakes on asphalt
Don't take Desert SXS as the Holy Grail of testing, far far from it. The brake test was so flawed and they did mention that the brakes may have needed to be bled....funny that they were raeching out to SPEED for a solution instead of bleeding the brakes themselves. LOL
dude was hitting the brake Before the cone in the can am and the polaris he was hitting the breaks after the cone.
Yeah and had a spare on top 😅😅😅
It looks like the old Turbo S4 is still racking up points, it's number 2 on the track time and #3 on brakes.
Where did you see track times in this vid?
@@moslereverett at one point they are talking and the list with the times at in the background.
Solid Platform
Great job! Been waiting for this.....
Add a wildcat xx. It would be a top contender
It’s crazy there are no Honda Talons. I love my 2019 Honda Talon. It’s no speed Demond by any means and is way under powered compared to what’s out there. Honda won’t do what the people ask for so I’m doing it myself. I have the full HCR 72” Long Travel. Full Shock Therapy spring kit. Rock Crusher Wheels. 33” System3 RT320 tires. Krash Off Road cage. There is a full Alba Racing motor in the works. With the 25% gear reduction from Reduction Boss it should give me around 150 - 155 HP none Turbo to the wheels. Fingers are crossed.
Just not much of them out west.
Something’s gotta be done about those speed brakes and it shouldn’t have to be the Wilwood upgrade. I find it very strange that Robby would put these cars out with brakes that bad. This is the third speed car I’ve seen with horrible brakes. The XX has awesome brakes, mine will lock up all 4 at just about any speed. Granted, it’s lighter and has smaller tires.
Driving style is why there can be a variety of different machines that sell well. I own an x3 and I thought this would be the last season with it and I would get a Maverick R. After seeing the videos of it and in person at the sand show, I am not a fan. I am now looking at pro-r or speed. I want to see the speed in the dunes for a season and with the speed key. I do really like how light the x3 is, none of the new machines are light and none seem as nimble.
Can't go wrong with the proven Pro R. Just put the first 100 miles on mine.
Stay tuned to the series. Reviews on all the cars by different drivers.
Pro Rs now have rebates and no more dealer mark ups, add turbo or super charger and the Pro R will wipe the floor with all these cars
@@allmotorhash The numbers they get with these turbos on that Pro R 4 cylinder is crazy
you heard my voice...great you reactet...keep on going like this !!
As a talon owner they just dont stack up against the turbo machines in the big stuff stock here on the east in the woods theres a ton of them would be cool to compare honda to can am dct though but thats about it lol
Traction of tires changed braking distance by a lot
Forgot the rollover test
whats up with the speed brakes !?? and wheres the track time??😝
As a owner of the Polaris Pro R I approve of this message.
Cant believe the new Mav X placed low on the list. Was it the base model or with smart shock? Still hate the praying mantis look!
I enjoyed this, good content and useful I think too
Witch one is a manual or dog box
Thanks for a great shootout video!
You should have had a category for safety. Ask all seven drivers what car they would choose if they were in a rollover crash.
Awesome comparison
I would like to see a yxz with suspension and long travel compete. Basically, a builders car, built.
Funny how your saying CARS.. because the price is about right for a Car and they don't last as a long.. Yet Should 100% should last as a long as an automotive product.
Yes doors beep when you put it in gear cameras and price all the same lol
I don’t think the braking in the speed was correct. That car overall looked the most fun!
It’s a blast!
Way to many variables to take any of this too serious but cool to hear different opinions on different cars.
Where is the slow motion on the speed car through the g-out
Go to your settings and click on the playback feature. Speed doesn’t bottom out like that Can am did.
Where's the CFMOTO? Or is this test only for overly expensive SxS's?
Don’t know anyone with one personally
Great Video, and it’s just Part One of an epic series!
wheres the xrs turbo rr
seems a bit off kilter with a 4 seater vs 2 seats.. kinda apples to oranges imo
Should have removed all the spare tires especially the roof mounted one for equality
was going to say this myself. those tires should have been removed.
Speed car also had a spare. Not Speed fault the other mfgs didn’t make it safer to carry a spare like most will do in the desert. With speed you get a lower center of gravity.
More videos from the comparisons maybe in the dunes
Did Robby really say you guys were qualified to do this ? 😂
Seems the more truly independent reviews come out for the Maverick R, the less impressive it is. Not really surprised. The fact there was literally no one saying anything negative at all about the car during the canam events was suspicious.
There is a reason they avoided specific people when it came to those events. It's been made clear in the past that some manufactures were offering quite a bit to youtubers that would be willing to hype up their products.
I feel like the speed will be big with the deaf community
What?
Everyone knew the YXZ was the turd lol. Ive had 11 of these Sxs over the years, and a low number speed coming in 2 weeks
Well I know I'm not buying the Speed.....I don't have that many years left to wait for it!!
Compared two seats vs four ?
You can only get some of them in a 2 seat some in a 4 seat that’s why we had multiple of both
Guys you need them to all be two seaters or four seaters. Hello
Half and half 1 car you can only get in a 2 seat other only came in a 4 seat so that is why we did half and half
Man all these negative reviews of the Maverick R really has me questioning the deposit I have on one.
What’s everyone’s opinion on Maverick R vs Pro R?
All I can say is I would never buy a first gen.
I've rode in a Maverick R they are fast, handle flat and large bumps well.
Pro r takes the cake in my opinion
Who needs brakes ?
Chad: does your El Jefe have the updated brake pads or the original version pads?
Sorry dude but the Speed motor Z1 copy is just not fast anymore, 8 years ago the rzr z1 turbocharger was fast untill X3 came out forced popo to do pro R
What gives with some cars with spare tires and some not? Lol one car even had one ratched to the roof... gave up on it being a fair test the second i saw that... did literally nobody there understand how weight works? I don't understand how someone could put in all that work for nothing...
Cool to see this test. I understand the challenges of getting a group of completely stock cars together. There’s just too many variables such as spare tires, different tire sizes, aftermarket parts that add weight like cages etc. Again appreciate the effort but hard to put too much stock into it
Dont know why they jist didn't make a 72 not everyone wants to ride in sand im thinking that will hurt sells just my opinion
What UTV are you talking about? The Pro R is more then 72, the Mav R is over 72 as is the Speed. 77-78 is the new standard.
I dont feel this is a fair shootout. Need to compare like vehicles, not vehicles of different sizes, weights, and horsepower.
Also 2seat vs 4 seat can’t even text them the same. This is dumb
When I do decide to upgrade the Turbo S, ill go Pro R
Nice to see all the top machines together- I always liked the speed but didn’t want to wait 2 years to get one lol 😂 can’t wait to see u ride the maverick r around the track n dune it n see how it does -
Seems like the speed is the worst of all things id be pretty bummed to pay all that and wait that long to get something that sounds that bad , stops that bad etc
The Speed is a blast! A few refinements and it’s top dog
@@UTV-Alol top dog ...
It was worse in brakes, that's it.
Go for a ride in one, you'll change your mind, I promise.
Please get a 19+ Yamaha yxz , add a ping travel kit and seller turbo and put it up against these ugh dollar rigs and see what you think.
Polaris all day
You all are lagging on content
I was starting to believe the Speed UTV didnt exist.
Bull***
What gets me no one wants to test in rocks hill climbing and mud
Havasu az desert
We will, except no mud around here!
The pro r will dominate....in those terrains...the speed will not even make it up in the rocks
@@cautionontherun30 Pro R turbo or supercharged beats all these cars . IF Polaris ever brings out a turbo 2.0 R id buy for now the 4 cyl all motor works effortless and will outlast smaller motors
It seems that as much R&D went into the Speed I feel it has a lot of disappointing shortcomings. Tons of anticipation was focused on that machine! In my opinion it fell short of the hype. Although I will say it’s a sweet looking ride.
It truly is not disappointing, except when it comes to the brakes, which gave the drivers little confidence
The car is ugly too bulky not impressed. Speed will only be good for desert if that
What are the "Lots" of shortcomings?
@@bmxdad09 even if it’s just one do you think that is acceptable? How many years or R&D went into that machine? I hear the brakes are bad, I watched a release video where the wiring harness was ripped out by the drive train, and it doesn’t seem to be very fast compared to machines in its class. Sure it still needs “the red key” to reach its full potential. So maybe “ a lot “ was a bit strong. Nevertheless this machine was supposed to be leaps and bounds better than the competitors .Polaris and Can Am caught up before the Speed even showed up to the party. Just my opinion, I’m not trying to change your mind and you aren’t changing mine. Cool looking machine though.
@@tayalyn08 The amount of years/R&D that went into the Speed is actually substantially less than Polaris or Can-Am put into the ProR or the MavR. Yet, you see the same amount of small issues in both of those manufacturers. While you didn't see it, or probably know about it. The ProR and MavR were both in testing/R&D for 5 years before they were released.