2:03 They didn't even get the "constantly getting someone's name wrong" gag right. Its supposed to be a different name each time. And the joke works better if the names are absurd. For example: "Hey Rubarb!" "Morning Ross!" "How are you doing Ruben?" " Cute hair Roast Chicken!" "What's wrong Robitaille?" "Good to see you again Rose...aline."
And evidently she never corrects him properly like fixing her name... And seems to have affirmed the name Rhubard at first... He's literally using the name she accidentally confirmed to refer to her
Actually, Aster can be forgiven for not knowing Roses name because SHE NEVER TELLS HIM. Every time he got it wrong she never corrects him, if she did then it would be something, but she never does, so really it’s not his fault
Rosmary: nearly decapitates someone The show: "Look how quirky she is" Aster: nearly decapitates someone The show: "Look at how evil this man is" HOLD UP, WAIT A MINUTE SOMETHING AIN'T RIGHT
The episode where Sage is sexist in thinking that guys don't talk about feelings, and since Snapdragon is later heavily implied to be trans the way the narrative in this show is constructed doesn't seem to frame it as "Sage is wrong in her assumption about boys" and more like "Snapdragon doesn't really count because Snapdragon isn't *really* a boy."
Which is bizarre in and of itself because it’s essentially saying Snapdragon is only trans because they don’t feel they fall into this one highly specific viewpoint of what it means to be male, as opposed to actually believing they should be female
Yeah I have nothing against Snap being trans, but it would’ve been nice for the show to show that guys can still be guys but can like and do feminine things , but no instead they just reenforce Saga’s sexist point.
@@brandonlyon730Sadly this mentality has been bleeding over to other works like Guilty Gear and the initial localization of "I Think I Turned My Childhood Friend Into a Girl". Dimitri Monroe has made a few videos on the subject, but basically it's a way for Twitter SJW's to play Virtue-Signal Bingo with established characters.
The idea of a trans person going through an arc where they learn what their identity is sounds like a solid premise that opens itself up to a lot of character development. But to have that development be "you're a trans woman because you don't fit into any negative male stereotypes..." Yeah this ain't it chief.
Pronouns, gender identity, romantic relationships... why the heck is this stuff in FANTASY show !? They can be doing some interesting things like fighting ancient evil, explore strange lands, finding lost artifacts, explore mysteries of magic but no let's talk about our fillings... After all who needs dragons when you have drag queens ?
Snapdragon’s arc, to me, feels rushed underdeveloped and like it received a solution too soon. We don’t know what kind of struggles Snapdragon went through and the snippet we got in the eleventh episode doesn’t feel like it fully explored Snapdragon’s identity issues. Truthfully, the show had a lot of different plots probably made the character’s story worse. The writers should have held off on Snapdragon’s plot until there was more time to give the character more depth.
My problem with the Snapdragon thing is that them being trans doubles down on the sexism - they don’t identify as female because they felt they were miss-identified at birth, it’s because they were “too soft” (to quote the wiki) to be a male It’s essentially saying that because Snapdragon wasn’t manly and liked to talk about his feelings like “girls do” they must actually be a girl…as opposed to actually challenging the stereotypes associated with genders, it just doubles down in the worst way by tying personality to gender - which if anything is worse for actual trans people because it undervalues what they go through
if anything, it would be an interesting premise for a trans character: People keep pushing the character into gender roles with their sexist attitude (ex. "you are too soft to be a man" or "you are sensitive like a woman"), which led the character to internalize them to the point of transitioning but only to try to fit into the role others push for them to if the narrative: 1) had better transgender representations to compare and contrast 2) made very clear that was a tragedy. and the arc of that trans character is to choose their own path, feel fine with themselves, and realize what they really identify with, regardless of what other people tell them what they are.
Gotta love to how Sage's sexist rant completely ignores the existence of h0mos3xual men. Are the writers implying that gay men don't talk about their feelings? All the stereotypes would heavily suggest otherwise...or perhaps they're implying that gay males just don't count as men; which wouldn't just be sexist that would also be pretty damn hom0phobic too. 🤨
This episode could have been a parallel, Sage's assumptions about boys talking about their feelings were no more founded than Aster's assumption that Rosemary shouldn't take the lead on the mission, but no, they went with "Snapdragon is actually a girl at heart, so Sage is totally right and Aster is the only ignorant one."
The frustrating Thing about Aster is that he isn´t even a Bigot, he is just insensitive. He could have had a Character Arc where he becomes more accepting, but instead they wrote him out for a bad Joke.
Gaston is Toxic Masculinity incarnate and I love that about his character. It is telling that, there's a difference between a one note villain and a One note Villain with qualities that makes them Larger than Life. It's the hyperactive qualities to their characters that instead of coming off as boring, it comes off as interesting to wonder how are they going to impact the story for how twisted of an individual they are on display. (Basically every Disney renaissance Villain had it in the bag on how to present them.)
I don't exactly remember how it went, so feel free to correct me, but didn't he end up admiring Rosemary by the end, complimenting her on how she got them both out of the obstacle course, only for Rosemary to be an ass about it, causing him to call her stuckup? Like, I could be remembering it wrong, but they actually had him improve just so Rosemary could make him take it back...
A potential explanation for Aster randomly showing up in weeks into classes would be that he is a second year student who was doing so poorly in his classes he was sent back to the first year classes.
Guys don’t talk about their feelings IS sexist but that’s a pretty common mindset sadly, but “girls have deeper bonds” is an awful thing to suggest, if anything , it breeds toxic masculinity out of fear of being weak, this mindset is disgusting. Especially if you love media that thrive without gender BS like The Outsiders, Goonies, Stand by Me, Ninja Turtles, hell, even Shawshank Redemption
I'm a woman who listened to some dudes about their issues, and i wasn't a sexist prick towards them. There were a great guy who lose custody of his kids, because his ex was favored, EVEN if the kids were in danger with her.. I got reminded of my own older "sister" and how my nephew isn't even raised right. I'm still fighting against her, and this time, none will save her.
Exactly! Just Because some guys don't talk about their feelings doesn't mean they don't have a deep bond with each other, they just showcase other ways. Plus I've seen some girls being absolutely toxic to each other, so Sage is absolutely wrong on that point, and considering what happens to her and rosemary later on will prove it further.
Facts, my guy. Just because men generally don't talk about their feelings as much as women doesn't mean they don't form strong, meaningful bonds. They just do it differently, because men and women are different and thus approach life's challenges in different ways. And that's okay.
I absolutely loathe the mindset that, if you exhibit any sort of trait more commonly found in the opposite sex, then you're either gay or a trans person still in the closet. "You're a girl, but you act like a total tomboy? You must be a lesbian and your boyfriend/husband is just a cover." "You're a man, but you like anything remotely girly? You're trans, you just keep denying it." Also, rapiers can be very deadly weapons, otherwise musketeers wouldn't have utilized them to surprising effectiveness. They're more of a stabbing weapon that prioritizes accuracy over speed and raw power, but are still mobile enough to maneuver around-and even manipulate- enemy blades.
If that was nowadays, those fake-ass LGBT folks would assume that i'm lesbian. Truth is, i never dated another woman, And i'm still not interested to be in a relationship with anyone.
Rapiers are very, very deadly in stabbing, not so good against armor or in battle situations. Also isn't the sword Snapdragon uses more like a later period smallsword? It is very narrow and compared to the teacher character, niot that long. Also no cutting edge at all. Smallsword was light and easier to carry around than rapier, it was every gentlemens must to have fashionable part of his clothing, that could also be a deadly stabbing weapon in duels.
The only reason why Sage became "friends" with snapdragon is that whenever she feels wronged by someone, she can let her anger out on them. So they are only her friend for her convenience
Also gotta love how the episode starts with Rosemary (in the show’s own characterization of her) being dumb about a subject and being casted as funny and endearing and the others easily tell her the correct information. And then Aster enters, asks the same question about literally the same subject, and we're supposed to scoff at this and it's painted as a negative thing. Like, I can’t believe more people who've watched the show haven't pointed that out. Along side the details of that class being stated as special circumstances to do a rush week-like study for their first quest, so they SAY the warriors and mages are mixed together for this week and not specifically for a teacher's field of study. Think: your homeroom teacher is also the AP Math teacher who's class you personally don’t take. So.... Yeah, Aster isn't a mage, just like Rosemary. Why on earth would he know the answer to a question he hasn't studied and get treated like he was dumb for even trying to get more information??? Geez, no wonder Sage's struggling at this school if students get mocked for not knowing information on a subject that the teachers are supposed, themselves, are supposed to be teaching here.
Let’s not forget that one of _High Guardian Spice’s_ lead writers, Kate Leth, has launched Twitter tirades about how we should (her exact words) “kill all men.” Yes, this show is _extremely_ sexist, and yes, it was 100% intentional.
and the worst part is that the goat boy talked about his fellings with sage in the prevoiusly episode. sage is the enbodimenty of jealous grilfriend who ended up being toxic.
You said "Boy talked about her feelings?" What? I am not anglo, but based on my skill in English I wonder what does this mean, doesnt english have gendered pronous and "her" means woman/girl?
@@dragowolfraven3806 the trailers were a dead giveaway that this wasn't even remotely ready. When there's no actual animation of the series in the initial trailer you know you messed up.
Sage's awfulness is further exacerbated in the Halloween episode, where it sounds like Sage wants Rosemary to be codependent on her and for Rosemary to not be allowed to do anything without Sage's approval.
My dad is a boomer in his 60's and talks openly about his Depression and Anxiety all the time. I've even noticed that he talks about it more in recent years as the subject of mental health has become less stigmatized and more open to talk about.
Men don’t talk about their feelings to women usually. That’s just the reality of the matter. And they do it for good reason. Women view emotional men as being weak. I’ve heard and read way too many stories of women breaking up with their boyfriends because they saw him crying, regardless of the reason. Men talk to their family members and their male friends about their emotions because they typically won’t receive the harsh judgement that we typically get from women who aren’t our immediate family. Men have their own ways of handling things and talking about things. It usually isn’t because of other men that men act the way we do. It‘s pretty universal that men control their emotions. But anyone who breaks up with their partner because he cries over the death of his mother is evil if you ask me. Men don’t do it the way women do it. And that’s not wrong. We also don’t typically talk about it with complete strangers either. Which, I’ve seen more than enough times women doing that with people they just met. Just my experiences and it appears to check out with most observations and reading/listening I’ve done from other men.
Rosemary: *acts like an arrogant meathead all the time* The writers and supporting characters: This is cute and quirky! Astor: *acts like an arrogant meathead all the time* The writers and supporting characters: This is toxic masculinity and he needs to suffer! This subject can't be danced around and ignored because there's no question what the intent is. Hell, Kate "I Hate All Men" Leth wrote this episode. And this happens throughout the show: girl does something and it's totally okay, but if a guy does it, he's bad unless he's trans/trans-coded. Misandry, like misogyny, isn't a word that I toss out casually, but this show is filled with it.
Not to use the 'as a woman' card, but... AS A WOMAN, I will say that Sage's dialogue pissed me off. Making blanket statements about an entire gender is the textbook definition of sexism. The fact that Snapdragon is *supposedly* trans makes it seem like we're supposed to think that Sage is *right* in her assumptions. Also, I have no idea what this 'guy friendship' and 'girl friendship' thing is about. It seems like an attempt to enforce a gender division, which is a very... interesting move to make in a show that has transgender people in it.
Rapiers are *very* good at killing people. Their issue is that they're specialized one on one unarmored dueling weapons - They're compact enough to open carry in daily life, long enough to outrange most other weapons, and heavy enough to kill (they're usually heavier than other sidearms). They're good at thrusting, and served their purpose as an urban self defense weapon very well. Fencing Foils - what they evolved into, are what you were thinking of. Rapiers are not a sports weapon.
Plus, thrusting is the main way a sword kills someone. They can hack and slice sure, but even thick padded cloth can stop those from being lethal, a stab however goes through it with little issue (until you get to solid armors). The rapier is the king of the stab. For monsters it's a mixed bag. Manticore stuff you'd want a normal sword to have more damaging options. Thicker skin or dragon scales though and a thrust is all that'll work. Of course in that case the axe would be far superior anyway. The rapier can shine, but it's a specialist weapon in what I assume is a generalist job.
@@bolbyballingeralso against regular humans it’s fine, but imagine trying to use it against an ork or something. One decent hit on the blade and it’s more than likely snapping, if not at least bending
@@ntfoperative9432 Depends on what it's made of. Iron you can definitely bend, rudimentary steels (like most katanas) can snap. But proper spring steel, the stuff good medieval swords were made of, will spring back into shape almost regardless of the blow it takes. Strong as an orc may be it's not snapping a well made spring steel sword.
Gonna throw a hot take in this thread: The "correct" pronunciation of rapier is not correct, in that it sounds strictly worse than turning the a into a schwa, and unnecessarily turns "pier" into two syllables when it doesn't need to be.
Yes, rapier is renassance time stabbing specialiced one handed sword. It is cuite heavy, but quite fast at stabbing, right? One can easily kill unarmored opponent with a stab, some rapiers can slash too, but usually not deadly way, the kind of thing one does to get room to stab next. Also isn't the sword in the show more like a smallsword than an actual rapier? That is the sword that evolved from heavier rapier to be easier to carry around, but still being fancy and potentially deadly dueling weapon against another smallsword. The sword Snapdragon has, is very narrow, has no blade edge and is not that long compared to the older characters.
As an aspiring animator myself, I both loathe and love High Guardian Spice. I loathe it because it's so clumsily put together! The writing is inconsistent at best and it makes the writers appear as social shut ins who spend way too much time on Twitter. But I love it because it's a valuable learning too. It taught me everything I *SHOULDN'T* do when making a fantasy cartoon. Thank you, High Guardian Spice for being such a terrible series! You taught us aspiring animators so many valuable lessons!
@@turkoositerapsidi teen girls who had magic beat final villian and all go home but 30 years later one of them gets powers back and goes to find her old friends since they split up
Honestly, I feel bad for Snapdragon. They didn’t deserve to have their father’s axe stolen and given to someone else, they didn’t deserve to be friend to have a crush on someone who was toxic.
It's kinda funny how Snapdragon and Aster are kind of the victim here. Don't get me wrong, they atleast setup Aster to be that kinda guy who's hot air and dismisses everything so he kinda deserves what's coming to him, but Snapdragon... "It's okay to be trans" Snapdragon: "I am not trans thank you." - "That weapon is not for you." Snapdragon: "But it's my father's Axe can I have it back atleast?" As for Aster... saying the name wrong was enforced by RoseMary, you could even say it was a nickname since her hair does look abit like rubharb? But Aster isn't as bad as described as Mr.Enter here... he's more the Hot airhead richboy jock stereotype that means well but can't do shit, then a sexist pig/asshole. If anything you can relate him abit to Mr. Satan from Dragonball before he learned he was infact a weakling compared to the Z-fighters... but unlike Dragonball... Aster never gets that moment... so we are only left with the worst traits of an Airheaded Jock.
@@YourFeelingsSucks I have my own issues with They/Them pronouns, but I only typed that because the character was addressed that way throughout the rest of the review.
@@YourFeelingsSucks Also, *his is his current identity within the canon, but if writer's intention is to be believe then he would actually be *she deep down. Which is why Enter chose to use *they, to sidestep that whole can of worms. Something the comments then followed suit with. Nonbinary identities aside, they/them is mostly used to where a person/character's gender isn't known/apparent, which is exactly what's happening with Snapdragon's case here. It's literally one of the most standard usage of they/them possible... (except for plural usage)
- Yay, the shipping drama episode. My faaaaavorite. Oh, and with a lot of misandry, too. - I know you didn't show it, but those runes that Caraway listed at the start do exist in the Old Norse runic alphabet. They look nothing like what he wrote, of course, and he might've gotten a few meanings wrong (isa, for instance, means "stillness" or "control"). - To be fair, Rosemary should have corrected Aster that she isn't Rhubarb way earlier. But when she stupidly says "Yes, Rhubarb! A hundred percent my name!", can you really blame it ALL on him afterward? (And of course, it's pretty convenient that Rosemary stops being clumsy when ANOTHER clumsy braggart shows up.) - So wait, why are Warrior-track and Magic-track students all in the same classes now? Hrm, it's almost like the school's rules are changing to suit whatever dumb contrivance the story demands. - Maybe the better lesson that Sage should learn from this episode is that if she trusts Rosemary that much, she should trust her to decide on her own whether or not Aster is the one for her. (And it also would've been better if Sage caught up to Snap to apologize to them before they see Rosemary and Aster.) - So why isn't Amaryllis a trans boy? I mean, she was part of that allegedly symbolic weapon exchange. Why does it only apply to Snapdragon? If I saw this episode completely blind, I'd have guessed that this was saying that people aren't all cut from the same cloths as others - we have a rustic-town boy who's better with a refined fighting style, and an aristocratic girl who favors a rough-and-brutal style. Hell, this can extend to Snap's retort to Sage's sexist generalization! ...My point being, these is NOT the _obvious_ trans hints that the show pretends they are. And even if they were, this just comes up out of nowhere. Snap chiding Amaryllis for making Sage's potion blow up in Ep3 felt way smoother. - I hate how haphazard the rules to Hakone's obstacle course are. What was the point of making this a team exercise if only one person can be at the top? And what's with this extremely gaudy trophy with countless precious gems studding it?! It's almost like this only existed to give Parsley an excuse to assault somebody...So thanks, Ep6 - you ruined Parsley's remaining good will. - ...Is it any coincidence that the most misandristic episode is one of the ones that Kate Leth wrote?
I’m glad you like Parnell, I like the friendship he has with slim boy. The episode where sage went to the crying room, Parnell and slime boy where talking about their feelings, but I guess she was too busy with her own problems to notice. Then she goes with this rant?? Lol
Speaking about Parnell, I took me a while to realize he was supposed to be a boy. I think it has to do with the fact that he has long eyelashes and is voiced by a woman. When I saw him in the concept art in the original trailer I assumed he was going to be a transgender character
Parnelle and Caraway talk about their feelings, Parnelle did it to her DIRECTLY! Also Rosemary TOLD Aster her name was Rubarb the first time he got it wrong so him never getting it right makes sense.
I don't think Aster’s sexist, he just doesn't take Rosemary seriously. Given how Rosemary acts in the first half of the season, I don't blame him. Let me explain. Think about all of Rosemary’s actions prior to this episode. Rosemary getting distracted by everything, playing with her sword as if it was a toy which led to her nearly slicing someone’s head off, then breaking said sword because she was playing with it, drawing doodles in class, and distracting her classmates to show it to them and as we’ve seen in this episode, Rosemary having a crush on Aster. How are we supposed to depict these actions as anything other than just cute? What doesn’t help is that Rosemary hasn’t gotten any proper character development since the first episode so she’s basically the same. The idea that she’s more than just a cute girl was never conveyed to the audience. So for those reasons you really have no choice but to side with Aster.
If you see this dumbass swinging her sword around and being proud of an undeserved title as a swordgirl, i can understand why. Rosemary was in love with him, but her illusions were cut.
@@ivorynk752 To me it's a sense of Aster being meant to have a wrong/dismissive impression of Rosemary, which he might be a bit pompous for assuming in context, but we the audience have a hard time rejecting as hard as we should because what WE see through previous episodes supports that impression, unintentionally or otherwise.
Amaryllis is the only saving grace in this show really. This episode was a highlight example of the main characters, we're supposed to like, being insufferable while some side characters shined better through it all.
Guys are afraid to talk about their feelings with people they don't trust deeply, because they've been hurt before for oversharing. Calling it "toxic masculinity" when men are suffering and surrounded by untrustworthy people is just a way to blame men for being isolated and lacking a support network. You have to have had ZERO male friends to believe all men are like the worst people you met in high school back when you were a small girl. So why is this anti-male attitude so common in bad writers like the morons responsible for this show's writing? If a man trusts you to listen and handle things maturely and humanely instead of blaming him or exploiting him he'll open up to you about anything, overshare until you ask him to stop, because he's happy to finally have somebody, anybody he feels he can trust, probably for the first time in his life.
I want to make a correction at the 7:06 mark. It does look like more than platonic friendship out of context, but in it's proper context, it's actually less than a friendship. The context is that Rosemary has a problem (granted, it's the "oh noes, I broke the pommel" problem) and Sage then tells her "miss you, love you" but immediately walks off without helping.
Parnell saying he jumped because he doesn't believe in oblivion insinuates he thought he was going to die, he just didn't care because he's not afraid of what happens after death.
@@Sonicfalcon16 I don't know anything about military compasses, but the type of compass I'm familiar with (orienteering compass?) has a dial you have to turn to know your heading/bearing. There are degrees on the compass which can either be printed as 90° between each cardinal point or 360° all around. The degrees help with specific directions, e.g. South 40° West instead of just "southwest".
Somehow, the more I hear about this series and its teachers, the more I think of the My Hero Academia Abridged from Something Witty. During the entrance exam, while all the kids are in the testing area destroying robots, the teachers are watching from the control room and chanting "EAT SH*T! EAT SH*T!" and betting on how many will die and how quickly.
Aster is the better character in this episode because his worldview is shown to be wrong at every turn. In the end, he acknowledges this and promises to do better, even if his wording is the worst and comes off as condescending. Unfortunately, he doesn't exist outside of this episode, so we'll never know if actually grew from this interaction. (Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying he was well written, I'm just saying he's the least worst pill to swallow here) On the other hand, all Sage does is be sexist towards Snapdragon, ignore his feelings and make him feel worse about his gender (exactly what Aster does), except she's rewarded in the end by having Mary Rose to herself again, so she can gaslight and emotionally manipulate all she wants for the rest of the series! And we know for a fact she got worse as the show went on. So, yeah. As much as Aster was an asshole this episode, he did go through a change for the better at the end. Sage was just as sexist, and she only got worse as the show went on.
The misandry in this episode makes sense when you go into the various statements of the writers of this show. Most of them have a history. Like, peak Tumblr "all men are evil" history. It is really gross and sickening.
Definitely. The first year at this kind of school would absolutely have to be a general education to figure out what each student fits with. The later years are when specialization should happen.
TMNT 2012 does this as a one episode subplot where it's pointed out that the weapon swapping is SPECIFICALLY because they're unfamiliar with the other weapons and to teach them to improvise instead of becoming complacent, to the point that when they swap back Splinter confiscates their weapons entirely. It also makes the reasonable result where the Turtles without training in the other weapons fail hard at fighting with them, as opposed to picking them up immediately (which would undermine the point of the exercise in and of itself if they were immediate experts with other stuff)
But even that's done poorly because the teacher doesn't do this for any other student. Just Snap and Rhyllis for some reason. Oh I know the reason. It's to show that the male character desires to be female because he has the "effeminate" weapon...
OBJECTION! The rapier was used as a dueling weapon not because it was less lethal but because it was easy to carry and fashionable. However, it was less effective in battlefield combat do to it's lack of reach and armor penetration capabilities when compared to polearms (as was true with almost all swords). However, it did still see it's place on the battlefield as a sidearm (as was true of most swords) once again because it was easy to carry. There are only a few exceptions to the "swords are sidearms" rule the most notable being the greatsword, which is basically a polearm due to it's length. A knight would have a sword in case his lance got stuck in someone. An archer would have a sword in case he wound up in melee. A spearman would have a sword in case his spear broke, or he dropped it, or it got stuck in someone.
Mermaids are real in HGS right? So dressing up as a mermaid would be mockery of mermaids or even cultural appropriation. I usually would not think much about it but the creators of the show tried so hard to say how progressive and diverse they are
I saw a comment on a different High Guardian Spice video stating that mermaids are somewhat of an icon in the trans community. I’m not sure if that’s true or not. Can anyone confirm please?
Reminds me of the movie Bright where Will Smith's character makes a racist joke comparing the (very real) Orcs to Shrek, which makes no sense because in a world where fantasy creatures are real Shrek would never have been made.
@@avalasialovein old legends, Mermaids were painted as horrible creatures who lure men by their songs. If anything, it's in disfavor to the community. But heh, they have never thought of that, hmm? Unironically, Carraway lured Snapdragon to do "trans magic".
@@avalasialove HUGE Disclaimer: Cis-Male sharing things I've heard secondhand but not experienced or witnessed, this might be better as an angle to investigate than anything concrete coming from me. Did they mention anything about specific stories or aspects? The first thing this brings to mind for me is how Disney's Ariel evidently resonates with a lot of Queer people because of her story centering on feeling out of place/like an outsider in the role/world she was born into and raised in while having her non-traditional fascinations/feeling of belonging elsewhere stigmatized by even her family. I don't know regarding Mermaids as an entire race/icon or if it's a few significant depictions like the above extending out, to be clear. This especially comes through as a perspective with the context that Howard Ashman, the lyricist behind TLM and Beauty & The Beast among MANY other works, was a Gay Man living with HIV/AIDS in the 90's, a VERY difficult/"outside" place to be. That perspective puts a very sad and longing context behind "Part of Your World," a song Ashman and the crew considered so integral to the story that they pushed back studio calls to remove the sequence while Ashman was in the recording booth with Jodi Benson coaching her line by line for the performance. The above is to say I don't know context for Mermaids as a whole being iconic to the Trans Community, but perhaps that can illuminate the significance they have as a result of one extremely recognizable and influential depiction.
I don’t know, everyone else dresses as some non human creature that day too, who have all shown to be sentient. So I’ve got no clue, this is probably one of those times where the writers should have done some world building
If you want to see a great review that did acknowledge that, I recommend a video called Crunchyroll Didn’t Stop: High Guardian Spice. It’s a great positive review of the show, made by an anime UA-camr who was somewhat infamous for their abrasive videos (they made one called Dear Crunchyroll: STOP, which is the reason for the title.) they made a positive review of High Guardian Spice as a way to repent because they felt they hurt people with their words. I don’t really agree with the positive conclusion on the show but I respect that video a lot it’s fantastic.
As a Fine Arts graduate, I can judge that the backgrounds are almost nonsensical and it absolutely pisses me off. A lot of these are simply trying to emulate the photorealistic anime background style, resulting in a style that is devoid of character. Too bright, not enough contrast, has details that are too sharp and overly-pronounced to the point that it conflicts with the characters' appearances and resulting in a mess of tiny, unnecessary details. The original concept sketches for the backgrounds don't even add up as well.
I gotta admit that some of the designs looked great on the concept art that was shown in the original teaser trailer, but in the series proper looks kind of off in various scenes. It has a problem in that it sometimes tries to imitate the aesthetics of manga and anime, but it just looks like those poorly made anime parodies from the 2000s, it's especially obvious in the episode where Sage and Amarylis become chibi style and the ending sequence where they were directly referencing Azumanga Daioh
the snapdragon storyline also comes across as grooming and manipulative as well snapdragon is depressed because he doesn't fit his father's definition of a man instead of helping him accept himself for who he is caraway, and the writers try to push for him to transition.
Show tried to normalize a very harmful thing on a young character who is experiencing identity crisis. Instead of teaching him to enjoy himself for who he is, he should become who he isn't, and that's the problem to me. As a LGBT person, i'm IMMENSELY against the transition of anyone who are way younger than 18 or even.. 25 yo.
But, but, the smallsword (I think its more like smasllsword than rapier) is a true gentlemans weapon he needs to also wear all the time as fashion item. There can not be a more manly weapon. :)
How would you have written the Snapdragon story them bein transgender better, 'm just wondering, not saying that you are wrong. I just would not like to werite as bad show than this one is.
A better way to portray Aster is for him to be an old school gentleman. He has an honor system and is respectful to everyone. However, his principles are that woman are the ones who needs to be protected and doesn't think they can do it on their own. This way his sexism is very inadvertent. Also I still have him make an ass out of himself but not completely incompetent. That way it shows that Aster isn't perfect but he's trying his best to be the ideal Gentleman.
It's obvious that the woman/women (All female staff, remember?) who wrote this episode either A. Had a bad relationship with their middle school boyfriend that they haven't gotten over. B. Are just bitter that men won't sleep with them (and judging by the appearance and personality of the women behind this show, it tells) C. Only hanged out with gay men. D. Obviously B
A and B are certainly right, but I'd also add that these writers may have never even befriended men in the first place, even in their childhood. It may be that even as young as 8 they may have already engrained misandry and continued to be reinforced with it through media. You should also take into account that all the female characters in this show has some sort of a mother-figure problem or an abusive family narrative, which I think Mr. Enter may have mentioned it previously. Not only they were enforcing misandry in the show but also ideas against the nuclear family structure.
Aster kind of feels likes the creators KNEW that the maincharacters wouldn’t be liked so they made a even worse one to make them look better by comparison. You know I like shipping (if its done well) you know what I hate? FAKE LOVE TRIANGLES(that’s when it totally obvious who the real couple is going to be, but the show has a third party in there to drag things out) Look if you want to pair rosemary and sage together fine I can get it, but DON’T put others in there as fake paring(s) either to draw the ship you want out or make it look better.
I was SO MAD in this episode; they could have easily made Aster a significantly more appealing character but the writers' hatred towards men really screwed it 😢
Wow, whether it's a boy and a girl, or two boys or two girls, nobody knows how to write a romance plot that goes beyond "tHeRe'S sOmEoNe ElSe" And GOD that's not even the worst part of the episode. Sage is so unlikeable it's not even funny. I shouldn't be shocked by the show that basically had one of its main selling points being a 50% female writing room, but WOW.
Unknow forces forbidd us to enjoy a simple friendship or platonic relationship, thanks to shippers.. I'm not even shocked that the show handled either terribly, and keep in mind.. "Rosemary and Sage know each other since childhood", But their past are NEVER seen, even Raye said that they're "shipping materials"..
I always thought that bit where the teacher gives Snapdragon the rapier weird. Sure it might not be the best fit for them, but he wants to use the axe. Why not TEACH them how they can use it better?
@@theuncalledforand that's the mistake. If one piece taught me something, the characters got a proper sword after years of training. Zoro got wooden swords in his childhood and real swords when he was of age.
The framework of the scene seems reasonable enough to work with, but it needs to go beyond just the weapon swap. Like have Snapdragon demonstrate how they fight with the Axe, showing some clear flaws in their handling (be it struggling with the weight/balance or just trying to use it in a way that doesn't work). Professor sees this, suggests trying another weapon like a Rapier or Saber, and Snapdragon taking naturally to it since it's a better fit for the style (not mastery, but just picking it up faster than their sloppy Axe wielding). It's a time commitment to make both the weapon usage and the thematic implications "show, don't tell", which as discussed and I presume will later be shown more, is a major thing this show has trouble with because of how thin it spreads itself in its 12 episodes trying to do so many unnecessary plots.
@@theuncalledfor Is that even a proper rapier? It isn't that long compared for the teacher character and it is also a very narrow sword with no cutting edge at all, sure not all rapiers had a blade, but the later smallsword is propably better description for this weapon.
Funny thing, I would argue this plot can be done right. I would argue Deltarune basically has a side plot of the same thing, Berdie and his crush on Susie is basically the same plot point as Aster in this episode. They even had the usually nice and polite friend beat up the dumb man at the end for his arrogance, in Deltarune too. The difference is though, there’s a way to do this stuff well.
Even closer example in RWBY. Jaune Arc was also fairly postering and prone to macho thinking (less 'I'm better than you' than 'I must stand on my own' which is a lot closer to what guys think.) But he's also the constant button of jokes, the target of mockery and gets put down by everyone. A d this affects him, makes him go through a constant cycle of trying to gain self worth without being the big noble hero but constantly struggling with it.
0:12 UA-cam can't let us call a Bastard Sword a Bastard Sword or a Rapier a Rapier because the Bot is a Draconian monster of Censorship and "Family Friendly Content".
Aster is SO badly written a sexist character, when the show was releasing and random clips were getting uploaded on UA-cam, people, myself included, thought a blonde girl character who complained about a forest exercise WAS Aster having been punished for his sexism by by being turned into a girl... and while that wasn't the case, it was a better story idea than what actually happened, which really is sad
I'm not personally a fan of the whole force a magical transformation on a person as a punishment or to "teach them a lesson", but gosh I'd rather have that than a boring story we've been given here. Like, I had a similar idea like that with the other bully from later, Cal, that they have dropped out of the episode early because they were done using him to bully Snapdragon for wanting to be a mermaid... on a mission that required them to transform into mermaids. I kept thinking they could have done more drama and story if they hadn't ditched Cal immediately as a tool, as maybe he's seen to learn a lesson after he's forced on this mission. Even do a funny thing where Cal pivots by the end of the episode and is fully for being a mermaid and frolics off to transfer to the mermaid's school, meanwhile Snap realizes what they actually want isn't to be a boy mermaid, but their gender thing of that they actually realize they wanted to be a girl, highlighting the difference in feminine/masculine surface traits that you can embrace no matter your gender versus actual feminine/masculine gender questioning feelings. But nope.
You think this kind of writing would have died in the 90s. But this show brought it back. Again, here what I would do if I could rewrite this. Aster starts off cocky but is a capable and competent fighter. For the class, Rosemary tries to do an obstacle course. To her surprise, Aster genuinely wants to help and teach her new moves. She doesn't fall in love but develops some respect. As for Sage and Snapdragon. Sage does grumble about Rosemary spending too much time with Aster. Snapdragon points out how she should be so jealous, telling her the time Amaryllis hanged out with another kid. He explains that Amaryllis defended him from bullies (Much like how Rose protected Sage). She explains that before she came to the school, she didn't have any friends besides Rosemary. Also, both Sage and Snapdragon realizes they both like the same book series.
As someone who is non-binary trans I feel like what causes Snapdragon to get upset is constantly hearing "he" and "she" all the time. Like they are an outside party in this because they use "they/them" but that is just something personal to me. It's apparent Sage doesn't care about her friend because she keeps saying the most horrid things around them not taking into account their feelings especially because they are trans. However this show is such a shit show that they don't convey this properly. It makes me uncomfortable for that reason. Like they queer bait constantly with characters. It's really bad.
something that always bugs me about media that sells itself on LGBT representation is that said media always gives the worst possible representation. and bad representation can drive up hate instead of fighting it. if the loudest voices that claim to speak on your behalf also portray you as a horrible person then all that does is give the people that hate you more evidence to use against you. and that's a bad thing for very obvious reasons. speaking as a gay man myself i'd much rather have no representation than the horrible stereotypical portrayals of gay people found in progressive media.
A litlle bit of defense for The Rapier. It absolutely was used for combat. Great for helping getting into the gaps of Armor. Especially if you were mounted. The problem is what snap dragon is using isnt a rapier at least not a combat rapier. It looks to be a dedicated fencing rapier or tuck. Which are solely for fencing style hema.
Haven't even watched the full video yet, but I just want to say that I think we all could have guessed that this show was going to get sexist at some point. If I recall correctly, the show staff went on this proud monologue about there being diversity and all that other nonsense and yet the writers room was filled mostly white cis women, safe a few exceptions. Now, there's nothing wrong with being a white cis woman, but we all knew there were probably going to be issues writing the dynamics and feelings between men and women. Like, there's no men in the room to share their experiences to aid the writing.
In some minor amount of defense to the staff, apparently the clip for that trailer were recorded without them being informed it would be for marketing (as opposed to like a making-of documentary or something), so even if they all do believe this it might be more on Crunchyroll marketers cutting it together when the staff wouldn't want to sell the show that way (as opposed to being a "we're proud of this incidentally but here's what we think the show's strong suit is"). This all while acknowledging the other points like citing diverse staff with homogenous members shown in the Writers Room or the poor quality of the actually-delivered show.
Mr Enter, you always put a smile on my face, just seeing you so dedicated to your work just inspires me, thank you for being my favorite animation critic!
@@DJPrimeAmvs Other way around, but yeah. Hell, the "rapier" in this episode doesn't even look a fencing saber; it looks like someone welded a skewer onto a hilt.
9:16 Maybe it wasn't intended, but it definitely doesn't help when one of the staff on the show say on Twitter that men should die or something to that effect. Unless that's moreso just more of a showing of toxic femininity.
9:09 this whole segment reminded me of the "hanlon's razor" statement: "don't attribute to malice what can be easily explained as stupidity" Alternatively, this could mean that the show is so incompetent, even their attempts at "take thats" towards the things they dislike fall flat on their faces and can't even convey their hatred right.
Sage talking about how guys don’t talk about their feelings. She completely forgot that Parnell and Slime boy were talking about their feelings with her
Rapiers are definitely a very deadly weapons, they are built to be very agile, very quick, they stab very quickly and an unlike slashing weapons that may well leave a nasty laceration on your chest or abdomen the rapier goes in deep and can very easily puncture organs.
True, rapiers are deadly, but arent they less suited for multible foes, and thats why better in duels? Also isn't Snapdragon's sword in the cartoon more like the later period smallsword than a rapier based on its not as long length and narrower "blade", I mean it has no cutting edge either, but this can be true for rapiers as well. And smallsword even being lighter version of rapier is still deadly dueling weapon.
High Guardian Academy seems to put as much value in keeping their students alive as most social media sites do in keeping themselves consistent and user-friendly. They're not just bad at it: they're AGGRESSIVELY AGAINST IT.
Usually in fictional media when writing a character flaw there are 3 aspects to consider (though you don't necessarily need all 3 of them). The first is having other characters call out the flaw (it can be directly or indirectly behind their backs), the second and arguably more important is facing consequences because of the flaw and the last is reflection on said flaw (whether they can change/overcome it or not is up to the author) though this should come after at least 1 of the previous 2 aspects. This is especially true when that character is one of the main characters and not the antagonist/villain (which can get a pass though they shouldn't either). Sage's character flaws (being manipulative, overly sensitive and even being outright sexist) doesn't go through any of these. Snapdragon sorta calls her out but not really, she doesn't really face any consequences nor does she really reflect on said flaw. Without any of these 3 aspects the only thing that's left is sympathy, we are meant to sympathise with her character and viewpoint which for most people didn't happen though it speaks a lot about the writers that they expect us to sympathise/relate with Sage's character.
I do agree this show queerbaits a lot, but I hang with a LOT of trans people and sometimes the journey to finding your identity isn't a clean, start-to-finish journey. I never realized I was pan for years despite a *LOT* of clear signs that I just like men more than women. My assumption for SnapDragon is that the showrunners huff their own farts enough that they sincerely believed this show would be good enough to get a second season.
Yeah, on the subject of men not talking about their feelings: I have been the one sober girl in a party of my SO and his guy friends, and they always end up talking deeply about their struggles and feelings. It’s really sweet. I mean…they are all drunk during the talks 😂 but still, they talk about it and remember later to pick up again next party lol.
5:35 iok. wierdly enough, the sage snap conversation and the whole thing about snap being trans post show together makes me wierdly mad. the reaction snap had at 6:23 and stuff in later episodes makes me more feel that snap is just sick of gender role bullshit in general. heck even that snap caraway conversation later implies more that snap wants to change the body, not the gender. what makes snaps conflict even more stupid imo is the fact that this universe is primed for someone to change their body in any way shape and form and yet snap doesnt know about these magics. he could just look that up. like this show has animagi and no rules on the magic system. it has rings that transform you into actual mermaids with gills and stuff. if snap really hates how his body looks, if that includes gender or not, he couldl just use new magic to fix this. right now. without caraways shit potion since caraways potion is temp. and probably less controllable then the transformation magic snap wants.
Can we just accept at this point that the creator and writing staff were never on the same page? Like you said, the creator claims Snapdragon was trans. However, the series implies the opposite since when given the opportunity to change genders, Snapdragon refused. Plus, as you also stated, the potion was only temporary. Let's play devil's advocate and say Snapdragon wasn't sure if they were trans or not, what would be the worst thing if they decided to take the potion? Either they take it and are happier, or they take it and realize they're not trans and are possibly something else like gender fluid instead. I mean, if the potion actually had a downside it would make sense, but the series presents it like it doesn't have any. Heck I would have taken them having Snapdragon refusing because it would have put Caraway in trouble since it would be a teacher giving that potion to a minor, but I'm guessing the series doesn't present that as an issue, does it?
I ironically like Aster because him being a forgettable jerk subverts the expectations of most pretty boys. In a lot of stories pretty boys are either guys that are 1.) Plot devices with no personality and or not very smart 2.) Overconfident manipulators 3.) Only interesting because they have a tragic backstory Him just being a forgettable jerk is ironically funny to me because a lot of writers would have chosen 1 of the 3 above options which I would have hated. Besides that Aster add least teaches a lesson about the risk someone take when they focus so much on a person's appearance and he shows how some pretty boys in real life aren't as interesting as they look. PS: It is also annoying to me that petty boys are often the same type of men which are tall athletic white men with short hair. As a writer I think if you want to make a guy attractive to a bunch of women, then just make them talented and or confident in there abilities.
So this confirms that the show has at least 5 self inserts lmao Rosemary is pre transition raye. Caraway is post transition raye. Snapdragon is julia (rayes friend). Olive is rayes irl cat. Kino is another of rayes cat. Neppy who i belive is also another cat of raye. Did they made the show for the public? Or to fullfill some kind of fantasy?
The only one I saw explicitly as a self-insert was Caraway: looks like, voiced by, and has the same backstory as the creator. Rosemary just struck me as a typical brash main character who needs to grow up as her school days go on. And the cats are, well, cats lol Also I have done no research on the cast, so I had no idea Snapdragon was voiced by a trans man. All I knew of the cast was the creator as Caraway, and they had some veteran voice actors like Cam Clarke (1980s Leonardo, male Corrin from Fire Emblem Fates, swole Neppy-cat in HGS), Stephanie Sheh (Orihime, Viz uncut dub Sailor Moon, human form Olive in HGS), and Barbara Goodson (Rita Repulsa, Demon Prince Laharl, the potions teacher and Parnell in HGS).
I know neppy isnt a real cat but olive and Kino are. I really wouldn’t call them self inserts since they’re, like, cats? I also haven’t heard or seen any evidence for Rosemary being a pre transition insert and idk where people got that idea. But caraway is definitely an insert yeah.
Considering the writer of this episode started the "Kill All Men" hashtag and still hasn't apologized for it, I can't say I'm surprised how misandrist this episode comes off.
That would be a bit of a cool dilemma. Snapdragon thinking he's not a man because he wants to talk about his feelings. Then later on, he learns that yes, men do talk about their feelings. You are no less of a man if you do. He could learn that men can do many things considered feminine. And then he'll realize he can still be a man. But then, you'd get the thing that is even more of a sin in Hollywood than sexism (against women)... detransitioners.
That could be a story line given to professor Caraway in a flashback to early in his transition, feeling like his transition didn't mean anything because his personality doesn't conform to stereotypes.
Rapiers and one handed swords alike were used for self defense, in the way you'd use a pistol for self defense. It's good when you're not expecting all out combat against possibly armored enemies, in short duration fights. For expected combat, you pick primary weapons, like a pole arm or a great sword. But it is a fantasy show.
SORRY, long text. Yes, one handed swords were usually sidearms, and rapier is no different. But in combination with large shield, one hand was sometimes used as the main weapon, but this was before renassance where rapier is from. Also I did read that rapier was not that good against many opponents, but saber or broad sword were more versatile renassance swords used in battles. They could also slash well unlike rapiers. Also medieval guns were not very great, but later in renassance and beyond they became better to reload and use, pole arm and gun were primary weapons. Then came the sting blade (how to say in Englis) to add to gun making it a pole arm as well as ranged weapon. Also isn't the sword Snapdragon uses, actually closer to the later era smallsword than proper rapier? A sword that was light and much easier for gentlemen to carry around as fashion item, but deadly enough to kill someone in duels. The sword in the show is very narrow, does not have a blade, only point, is not that long compared to the older characters, just thinking.
@@turkoositerapsidi There have been rapiers which don't sport any cutting edges, but they were in the minority, as you say. The sword is small, compared to her size, it's normal length for a short sword. As we both said, it's quite common for a gentle man to use as his self defense weapon, as well as a symbol of status. The effectiveness of the sword depended on the user, they were certainly better for thrusting than sabers, but it's not likely to see a rapier on the battlefield, even combined with a shield, because they were meant for fighting unarmored opponents without shields. In these cases, a sabre or arming sword is better, as it can cut through padded armor, and won't break if made Contact with a shield. When guns were introduced in warfare, they were usually rifle length, but mercenaries would rather use pistols and swords, as you said, as they didn't benefit from regimented battle and often took place in close quarters. Here, rapiers were sometimes used, but sabres, I assume, were still preferred, because they were sturdier, and because rapiers cannot deflect heavier swords very well. Again, it comes down to the usage. The rapier would've worked well along with a buckler, as you said, but on its own it's not good for someone who expects a fight. It is fine for someone just going about their day, as a measure of self protection.
@@Poeneutral You are correct in your points, but isn't actual rapier a very long, but narrow sword with big hand protection, and the later period "smallsword" similar but smaller, to make it more easy to carry. 1700s gentlemen had it as part of their clothing. I am not anglo, in my native language Suomi 🇫🇮, it is called "pukumiekka", miekka = sword, puku is substantive of pukeutua (to dress), puku also means the suit that men or business people wear, or a costume.
@@turkoositerapsidi You are correct. Like most swords, the rapier was a also a status symbol, paired with clothing. Kind of like how you may wear a watch to be fashionable. It may be that some would wear a rapier as an accessory alone, but a weapon remains a weapon. It was indeed meant to be used for self defense as well as dueling. It did not have to have a basket hilt, but the guards were typically bigger than other types of swords, due to the techniques used in dueling. The Small Sword you're talking about is an evolution of the rapier which took a much greater focus on the aspect of thrusting. While Rapiers were primarily for thrusting, they still typically had blades, the Small Sword more typically had a rounded or triangular form, tapering to the distil point. The Short Sword was indeed primarily for dueling, but it was also used by high ranking members of the military, in its time. It too, was a status symbol for gentlemen, even moreso than the former Rapier. However, in common understanding, the difference between the two is pretty small.
Honestly that's isn't either a rapier, it looks more like an epee. Which is strictly fencing(sport) weapon (lack for a better trem). They only have a very small point at the tip, if even that. A rapier has a blade, and that has cone shape "blade". On medieval weapons, unlike in fiction. Both bows and crossbows requirer tons of upper body strength.
Not all swords have a blade, some were only for stabbing. Not all rapiers had ability to cut, and even those that did were not that great for it. But rapiers were not light. They were lethal stabbing weapons tho. But I do think the sword Snapdragon uses is thin and small, also not that long for the older teacher character, so it could be a smallsword. It was part of every gentlemans clothing he weared everywhere he went. It is a later period than rapier, replaced it for peing easier to carry, but deadly in duels. Spoer fencing épée is non-lethal version for smallsword, that bends easily and has no point.
Oh geez, glad I never hate watched the show. I'm shocked, just SHOCKED to see this "amazing diverse writing team" stepped into the trap of Lifetime Movie Writing, where all men are either your family, your gay friend, or literally Satan. The shock comes from the fact that it took them til episode 6.
The three mages mentioned a selection process for getting into the school. Whatever’s supposed to be wrong with Aster, he passed it. What does that say about their selection process??
Sage from Episode 06 of High Guardian Spice: Female friendships are strong and last forever Kei from Episode 08 of the 1985 anime, Dirty Pair: You know female friendships don't often last forever Yeah... I think Kei's logic makes more sense
Sage and aster could have both been wrong in the episode and we would have a lesson about how both men and women can be toxic but sage isnt wrong apperantly because her speech is what started snapdragons transistion according to the writers. Oh shit i accidentally wrote a good episode how to am i going to force my shitty takes in there now? Yea this episode was the one that broke me, Aster could have been a funny character, but apperantly were not suppost to laugh at him were suppose to be disgusted and take him seriously. He is a device for the story and a very weak one at that.
Also would you say this show is worse or on par with Velma? I think it's definitely up there, but Velma is worse because it takes an existing beloved IP like Scooby Doo and shits all over it.
The UA-cam channel Jamie De Jonge did a fantastic job on rewriting the Sage being sexist to SnapDragon and has done many awesome rewritten High Guardian Spice scenes I highly recommend checking them out 😁
Ah...The show is bad, but it's a slow-burn kind of bad, you don't get into the reasons why it's bad until the mid-way point...Wow...Basically, the complete opposite of shows like Bojack Horseman or Morel Orel, you know shows that get GOOD if not great until the mid-way point...And the biggest problem in this show I can see now is the total bigotry...But not from the characters, but rather the creators because this is just another round of small-minded, vengeful, spiteful, pathetic overcorrection, because the only way the ham-fists of Hollywood and indie developers that want to have a message in their shows is in order to make one side look good, they need to make the other side the perceived opposite, ironically bigotry will survive as long as humanity walks the Earth
Well, not all rapiers had cutting edge, and those that did, were usually not that deadly as cutting, it was not a finishing move with a rapier. But rapiers were very long and deadly for stabbing from a distance (compared to earlier arming swords). Also Isn't the sword in the show more like the smallsword, that evolved from rapier as gentlemens easier to carry fashionable dueling weapon that was also deadly for stabbing. Some of them did not have any cutting edge either. And the sport fencing sword evolved from smallswords.
Thanks for the lesson, no sarcasm. I'm a bit more used with the terms from my native language, and I assumed it was more of a foil given that it looks fir for training than fighting for one's life@@turkoositerapsidi
@@plumaDshinigami I myself am not anglo as well. In my native language smallsword is called pukumiekka. Miekka = sword, puku is substantive for pukeutua (to dress), or it means suit the clothing, or a costume. Snapdragon's sword looks very similar to the fencing foil, true. But the foil is essentially smalsword that is made non-lethal by removing stifness and the sharp point.
2:03 They didn't even get the "constantly getting someone's name wrong" gag right. Its supposed to be a different name each time. And the joke works better if the names are absurd. For example:
"Hey Rubarb!"
"Morning Ross!"
"How are you doing Ruben?"
" Cute hair Roast Chicken!"
"What's wrong Robitaille?"
"Good to see you again Rose...aline."
And evidently she never corrects him properly like fixing her name... And seems to have affirmed the name Rhubard at first... He's literally using the name she accidentally confirmed to refer to her
FFS she never even gave Aster her name. So you can't really blame him for not knowing it.
Actually, Aster can be forgiven for not knowing Roses name because SHE NEVER TELLS HIM. Every time he got it wrong she never corrects him, if she did then it would be something, but she never does, so really it’s not his fault
Also, when you're new at school, is obvious you don't anyone there, so is understandable you don't remember someone's name. Trust me, I know.
Rhubarb fit better than Rosemary, unironically.
I can add that when Aster first made the mistake she affirmed that Rhubarb is her name.
Yup! A lot of people miss that!@@Crystalgate
@@Crystalgateuhh what-
Rosmary: nearly decapitates someone
The show: "Look how quirky she is"
Aster: nearly decapitates someone
The show: "Look at how evil this man is"
HOLD UP, WAIT A MINUTE
SOMETHING AIN'T RIGHT
Gender and Radicalized Left Wing Ideology.
That’s all I’m saying.
This fcking show is based on manipulative thoughts.
Then again, it got Kate Leth, a very, VERY unhinged misandrist.
@@YourFeelingsSucks Let’s all agree that Misogyny and Misandry are bad.
One hurts women and the other hurts men.
@@IronThomasthePokemonfan37
misandry is normalized while misogyny is fought against.
@@YourFeelingsSucks That shouldn’t be the case.
Both should be fought against.
The episode where Sage is sexist in thinking that guys don't talk about feelings, and since Snapdragon is later heavily implied to be trans the way the narrative in this show is constructed doesn't seem to frame it as "Sage is wrong in her assumption about boys" and more like "Snapdragon doesn't really count because Snapdragon isn't *really* a boy."
Which is bizarre in and of itself because it’s essentially saying Snapdragon is only trans because they don’t feel they fall into this one highly specific viewpoint of what it means to be male, as opposed to actually believing they should be female
Sage's feelings are shitty, which girl cry because another say "yeah"?
"I nEeDeD a RoOm To cRy In".
Yeah I have nothing against Snap being trans, but it would’ve been nice for the show to show that guys can still be guys but can like and do feminine things , but no instead they just reenforce Saga’s sexist point.
@@brandonlyon730Sadly this mentality has been bleeding over to other works like Guilty Gear and the initial localization of "I Think I Turned My Childhood Friend Into a Girl". Dimitri Monroe has made a few videos on the subject, but basically it's a way for Twitter SJW's to play Virtue-Signal Bingo with established characters.
Which ignores how Parnelle and Caraway talk about their feelings and they're both guys. Yes one is a trans dude but still.
The idea of a trans person going through an arc where they learn what their identity is sounds like a solid premise that opens itself up to a lot of character development. But to have that development be "you're a trans woman because you don't fit into any negative male stereotypes..." Yeah this ain't it chief.
wandering son (anime ) does this concept so much better.
Pronouns, gender identity, romantic relationships... why the heck is this stuff in FANTASY show !? They can be doing some interesting things like fighting ancient evil, explore strange lands, finding lost artifacts, explore mysteries of magic but no let's talk about our fillings... After all who needs dragons when you have drag queens ?
@@1701EarlGreyOR they could do both? the problem isn't those topics being discussed in a fantasy show its how they do it?
@@1701EarlGreyi'm always thinking.
"You can't put modern leftie politics in a show, people would get sick and tired of it".
Snapdragon’s arc, to me, feels rushed underdeveloped and like it received a solution too soon. We don’t know what kind of struggles Snapdragon went through and the snippet we got in the eleventh episode doesn’t feel like it fully explored Snapdragon’s identity issues. Truthfully, the show had a lot of different plots probably made the character’s story worse. The writers should have held off on Snapdragon’s plot until there was more time to give the character more depth.
My problem with the Snapdragon thing is that them being trans doubles down on the sexism - they don’t identify as female because they felt they were miss-identified at birth, it’s because they were “too soft” (to quote the wiki) to be a male
It’s essentially saying that because Snapdragon wasn’t manly and liked to talk about his feelings like “girls do” they must actually be a girl…as opposed to actually challenging the stereotypes associated with genders, it just doubles down in the worst way by tying personality to gender - which if anything is worse for actual trans people because it undervalues what they go through
if anything, it would be an interesting premise for a trans character: People keep pushing the character into gender roles with their sexist attitude (ex. "you are too soft to be a man" or "you are sensitive like a woman"), which led the character to internalize them to the point of transitioning but only to try to fit into the role others push for them to if the narrative:
1) had better transgender representations to compare and contrast
2) made very clear that was a tragedy. and the arc of that trans character is to choose their own path, feel fine with themselves, and realize what they really identify with, regardless of what other people tell them what they are.
Snapdragon looked at Sage in a such weird way..
"Oh wow, she is brave and stunning!"
While Sage is the biggest pansy.. 😂
Gotta love to how Sage's sexist rant completely ignores the existence of h0mos3xual men. Are the writers implying that gay men don't talk about their feelings? All the stereotypes would heavily suggest otherwise...or perhaps they're implying that gay males just don't count as men; which wouldn't just be sexist that would also be pretty damn hom0phobic too. 🤨
@@cartooncritique6625 homophobic, sexist, misandrist, might i add.
This episode could have been a parallel, Sage's assumptions about boys talking about their feelings were no more founded than Aster's assumption that Rosemary shouldn't take the lead on the mission, but no, they went with "Snapdragon is actually a girl at heart, so Sage is totally right and Aster is the only ignorant one."
One of the writer for this episode, Kate Leth, made her infamous hashtag “killallmen” and years later, she refused to apologize over it.
She claimed she was "Tumblrpilled", I have no Idea what that means and I hope it stays that Way
@@entityontheinternetshe pins the blame on being a tumblr user.
@@PokefanGuquizUjixyz So she justifies her Actions by admitting that she is terminally online?
@@entityontheinternet Kind of.
This is unsurprising
The frustrating Thing about Aster is that he isn´t even a Bigot, he is just insensitive. He could have had a Character Arc where he becomes more accepting, but instead they wrote him out for a bad Joke.
Or, in my own head, once his ego gets bruised he basically turns into Gaston. Because this show also lacks good villains.
@@aislemontecristo That would be funny
Gaston is Toxic Masculinity incarnate and I love that about his character. It is telling that, there's a difference between a one note villain and a One note Villain with qualities that makes them Larger than Life.
It's the hyperactive qualities to their characters that instead of coming off as boring, it comes off as interesting to wonder how are they going to impact the story for how twisted of an individual they are on display.
(Basically every Disney renaissance Villain had it in the bag on how to present them.)
I don't exactly remember how it went, so feel free to correct me, but didn't he end up admiring Rosemary by the end, complimenting her on how she got them both out of the obstacle course, only for Rosemary to be an ass about it, causing him to call her stuckup?
Like, I could be remembering it wrong, but they actually had him improve just so Rosemary could make him take it back...
Hell, make him a true himbo ala Kronk
A potential explanation for Aster randomly showing up in weeks into classes would be that he is a second year student who was doing so poorly in his classes he was sent back to the first year classes.
In a competently written show, that would indeed be an explanation
Or he moved to Lyngarth for whatever reason and transferred there.
...There are second-year students at this academy?
Or he got lost for several weeks due to his poor planning and bad sense of direction.
@@MrAuthor3DSIn theory, if they live
Guys don’t talk about their feelings IS sexist but that’s a pretty common mindset sadly, but “girls have deeper bonds” is an awful thing to suggest, if anything , it breeds toxic masculinity out of fear of being weak, this mindset is disgusting. Especially if you love media that thrive without gender BS like The Outsiders, Goonies, Stand by Me, Ninja Turtles, hell, even Shawshank Redemption
I'm a woman who listened to some dudes about their issues, and i wasn't a sexist prick towards them.
There were a great guy who lose custody of his kids, because his ex was favored, EVEN if the kids were in danger with her..
I got reminded of my own older "sister" and how my nephew isn't even raised right.
I'm still fighting against her, and this time, none will save her.
Exactly! Just Because some guys don't talk about their feelings doesn't mean they don't have a deep bond with each other, they just showcase other ways. Plus I've seen some girls being absolutely toxic to each other, so Sage is absolutely wrong on that point, and considering what happens to her and rosemary later on will prove it further.
Toxic femininity is in play here, not toxic masculinity
@@chrisbluefield5484my older sister is a huge example of toxic feminity on displays.
Every days ARE A PAIN to deal with her.
Facts, my guy. Just because men generally don't talk about their feelings as much as women doesn't mean they don't form strong, meaningful bonds. They just do it differently, because men and women are different and thus approach life's challenges in different ways. And that's okay.
I absolutely loathe the mindset that, if you exhibit any sort of trait more commonly found in the opposite sex, then you're either gay or a trans person still in the closet.
"You're a girl, but you act like a total tomboy? You must be a lesbian and your boyfriend/husband is just a cover."
"You're a man, but you like anything remotely girly? You're trans, you just keep denying it."
Also, rapiers can be very deadly weapons, otherwise musketeers wouldn't have utilized them to surprising effectiveness. They're more of a stabbing weapon that prioritizes accuracy over speed and raw power, but are still mobile enough to maneuver around-and even manipulate- enemy blades.
If that was nowadays, those fake-ass LGBT folks would assume that i'm lesbian.
Truth is, i never dated another woman,
And i'm still not interested to be in a relationship with anyone.
Rapiers are very, very deadly in stabbing, not so good against armor or in battle situations. Also isn't the sword Snapdragon uses more like a later period smallsword? It is very narrow and compared to the teacher character, niot that long. Also no cutting edge at all.
Smallsword was light and easier to carry around than rapier, it was every gentlemens must to have fashionable part of his clothing, that could also be a deadly stabbing weapon in duels.
Ironic that many people in the trans community preach gender stereotypes.
The only reason why Sage became "friends" with snapdragon is that whenever she feels wronged by someone, she can let her anger out on them. So they are only her friend for her convenience
Also gotta love how the episode starts with Rosemary (in the show’s own characterization of her) being dumb about a subject and being casted as funny and endearing and the others easily tell her the correct information. And then Aster enters, asks the same question about literally the same subject, and we're supposed to scoff at this and it's painted as a negative thing. Like, I can’t believe more people who've watched the show haven't pointed that out. Along side the details of that class being stated as special circumstances to do a rush week-like study for their first quest, so they SAY the warriors and mages are mixed together for this week and not specifically for a teacher's field of study. Think: your homeroom teacher is also the AP Math teacher who's class you personally don’t take. So.... Yeah, Aster isn't a mage, just like Rosemary. Why on earth would he know the answer to a question he hasn't studied and get treated like he was dumb for even trying to get more information???
Geez, no wonder Sage's struggling at this school if students get mocked for not knowing information on a subject that the teachers are supposed, themselves, are supposed to be teaching here.
I know right?? had thought that too..
Let’s not forget that one of _High Guardian Spice’s_ lead writers, Kate Leth, has launched Twitter tirades about how we should (her exact words) “kill all men.” Yes, this show is _extremely_ sexist, and yes, it was 100% intentional.
and the worst part is that the goat boy talked about his fellings with sage in the prevoiusly episode. sage is the enbodimenty of jealous grilfriend who ended up being toxic.
"My FrIeNd SaId yEaH.."
And she needed a room to cry in.. 😂
You said "Boy talked about her feelings?" What? I am not anglo, but based on my skill in English I wonder what does this mean, doesnt english have gendered pronous and "her" means woman/girl?
@@turkoositerapsidiYou clearly didn't read his comment thoroughly.
@@jlev1028 They edited it, I just wondered, sorry.
Oh boy this episode shows Sage at her worst. The writers had no idea what they were doing with any of these characters.
This is why you plan a series before conceiving it.
@frankieseward Yes. I am surprised that HGS was greenlit at all.
@@dragowolfraven3806 the trailers were a dead giveaway that this wasn't even remotely ready.
When there's no actual animation of the series in the initial trailer you know you messed up.
Sage's awfulness is further exacerbated in the Halloween episode, where it sounds like Sage wants Rosemary to be codependent on her and for Rosemary to not be allowed to do anything without Sage's approval.
@@0deadx21 that's dangerously toxic. Co dependency os a detriment to growing as people. This always backfires.
My dad is a boomer in his 60's and talks openly about his Depression and Anxiety all the time.
I've even noticed that he talks about it more in recent years as the subject of mental health has become less stigmatized and more open to talk about.
Hubert Reeves even suffered from depression.
He admitted that on a reportage from the ARTE channel, his wife acted as his moral support.
Men don’t talk about their feelings to women usually. That’s just the reality of the matter. And they do it for good reason. Women view emotional men as being weak. I’ve heard and read way too many stories of women breaking up with their boyfriends because they saw him crying, regardless of the reason.
Men talk to their family members and their male friends about their emotions because they typically won’t receive the harsh judgement that we typically get from women who aren’t our immediate family. Men have their own ways of handling things and talking about things.
It usually isn’t because of other men that men act the way we do. It‘s pretty universal that men control their emotions. But anyone who breaks up with their partner because he cries over the death of his mother is evil if you ask me.
Men don’t do it the way women do it. And that’s not wrong. We also don’t typically talk about it with complete strangers either. Which, I’ve seen more than enough times women doing that with people they just met. Just my experiences and it appears to check out with most observations and reading/listening I’ve done from other men.
Rosemary: *acts like an arrogant meathead all the time*
The writers and supporting characters: This is cute and quirky!
Astor: *acts like an arrogant meathead all the time*
The writers and supporting characters: This is toxic masculinity and he needs to suffer!
This subject can't be danced around and ignored because there's no question what the intent is. Hell, Kate "I Hate All Men" Leth wrote this episode. And this happens throughout the show: girl does something and it's totally okay, but if a guy does it, he's bad unless he's trans/trans-coded. Misandry, like misogyny, isn't a word that I toss out casually, but this show is filled with it.
As a trans person, snapdragon's character would be better if he wasn't trans ☠️
harsh
Not to use the 'as a woman' card, but... AS A WOMAN, I will say that Sage's dialogue pissed me off. Making blanket statements about an entire gender is the textbook definition of sexism. The fact that Snapdragon is *supposedly* trans makes it seem like we're supposed to think that Sage is *right* in her assumptions. Also, I have no idea what this 'guy friendship' and 'girl friendship' thing is about. It seems like an attempt to enforce a gender division, which is a very... interesting move to make in a show that has transgender people in it.
This is one of the episodes where Kate Leth was involved in the writing and it's VERY easy to tell.
If she even wrote the scene where Sage bursted in tears after Thyme said "i just said 'yeah'".. 😂
Rapiers are *very* good at killing people. Their issue is that they're specialized one on one unarmored dueling weapons - They're compact enough to open carry in daily life, long enough to outrange most other weapons, and heavy enough to kill (they're usually heavier than other sidearms). They're good at thrusting, and served their purpose as an urban self defense weapon very well. Fencing Foils - what they evolved into, are what you were thinking of. Rapiers are not a sports weapon.
Plus, thrusting is the main way a sword kills someone.
They can hack and slice sure, but even thick padded cloth can stop those from being lethal, a stab however goes through it with little issue (until you get to solid armors). The rapier is the king of the stab.
For monsters it's a mixed bag. Manticore stuff you'd want a normal sword to have more damaging options. Thicker skin or dragon scales though and a thrust is all that'll work.
Of course in that case the axe would be far superior anyway.
The rapier can shine, but it's a specialist weapon in what I assume is a generalist job.
@@bolbyballingeralso against regular humans it’s fine, but imagine trying to use it against an ork or something. One decent hit on the blade and it’s more than likely snapping, if not at least bending
@@ntfoperative9432 Depends on what it's made of.
Iron you can definitely bend, rudimentary steels (like most katanas) can snap. But proper spring steel, the stuff good medieval swords were made of, will spring back into shape almost regardless of the blow it takes.
Strong as an orc may be it's not snapping a well made spring steel sword.
Gonna throw a hot take in this thread: The "correct" pronunciation of rapier is not correct, in that it sounds strictly worse than turning the a into a schwa, and unnecessarily turns "pier" into two syllables when it doesn't need to be.
Yes, rapier is renassance time stabbing specialiced one handed sword. It is cuite heavy, but quite fast at stabbing, right? One can easily kill unarmored opponent with a stab, some rapiers can slash too, but usually not deadly way, the kind of thing one does to get room to stab next.
Also isn't the sword in the show more like a smallsword than an actual rapier? That is the sword that evolved from heavier rapier to be easier to carry around, but still being fancy and potentially deadly dueling weapon against another smallsword.
The sword Snapdragon has, is very narrow, has no blade edge and is not that long compared to the older characters.
As an aspiring animator myself, I both loathe and love High Guardian Spice. I loathe it because it's so clumsily put together! The writing is inconsistent at best and it makes the writers appear as social shut ins who spend way too much time on Twitter. But I love it because it's a valuable learning too. It taught me everything I *SHOULDN'T* do when making a fantasy cartoon. Thank you, High Guardian Spice for being such a terrible series! You taught us aspiring animators so many valuable lessons!
Do you have a story done already? Just asking, im interested what you are going to animate.
yeah it did make me want to continue working on my projects knowing they're better than this
@@Sonicfalcon16 What kind of projects they are, if I may ask? Tell as much as you are interested to share. I do not demand anything.
It feels like they took everything from Terrible Writing Advice to heart without knowing it was satire.
@@turkoositerapsidi teen girls who had magic beat final villian and all go home but 30 years later one of them gets powers back and goes to find her old friends since they split up
Honestly, I feel bad for Snapdragon.
They didn’t deserve to have their father’s axe stolen and given to someone else, they didn’t deserve to be friend to have a crush on someone who was toxic.
It's kinda funny how Snapdragon and Aster are kind of the victim here. Don't get me wrong, they atleast setup Aster to be that kinda guy who's hot air and dismisses everything so he kinda deserves what's coming to him, but Snapdragon... "It's okay to be trans" Snapdragon: "I am not trans thank you." - "That weapon is not for you." Snapdragon: "But it's my father's Axe can I have it back atleast?"
As for Aster... saying the name wrong was enforced by RoseMary, you could even say it was a nickname since her hair does look abit like rubharb?
But Aster isn't as bad as described as Mr.Enter here... he's more the Hot airhead richboy jock stereotype that means well but can't do shit, then a sexist pig/asshole.
If anything you can relate him abit to Mr. Satan from Dragonball before he learned he was infact a weakling compared to the Z-fighters... but unlike Dragonball... Aster never gets that moment... so we are only left with the worst traits of an Airheaded Jock.
His*
Their make no sense.
@@YourFeelingsSucks I have my own issues with They/Them pronouns, but I only typed that because the character was addressed that way throughout the rest of the review.
@@IronThomasthePokemonfan37 i get that.
@@YourFeelingsSucks Also, *his is his current identity within the canon, but if writer's intention is to be believe then he would actually be *she deep down. Which is why Enter chose to use *they, to sidestep that whole can of worms. Something the comments then followed suit with.
Nonbinary identities aside, they/them is mostly used to where a person/character's gender isn't known/apparent, which is exactly what's happening with Snapdragon's case here. It's literally one of the most standard usage of they/them possible... (except for plural usage)
- Yay, the shipping drama episode. My faaaaavorite. Oh, and with a lot of misandry, too.
- I know you didn't show it, but those runes that Caraway listed at the start do exist in the Old Norse runic alphabet. They look nothing like what he wrote, of course, and he might've gotten a few meanings wrong (isa, for instance, means "stillness" or "control").
- To be fair, Rosemary should have corrected Aster that she isn't Rhubarb way earlier. But when she stupidly says "Yes, Rhubarb! A hundred percent my name!", can you really blame it ALL on him afterward?
(And of course, it's pretty convenient that Rosemary stops being clumsy when ANOTHER clumsy braggart shows up.)
- So wait, why are Warrior-track and Magic-track students all in the same classes now? Hrm, it's almost like the school's rules are changing to suit whatever dumb contrivance the story demands.
- Maybe the better lesson that Sage should learn from this episode is that if she trusts Rosemary that much, she should trust her to decide on her own whether or not Aster is the one for her.
(And it also would've been better if Sage caught up to Snap to apologize to them before they see Rosemary and Aster.)
- So why isn't Amaryllis a trans boy? I mean, she was part of that allegedly symbolic weapon exchange. Why does it only apply to Snapdragon? If I saw this episode completely blind, I'd have guessed that this was saying that people aren't all cut from the same cloths as others - we have a rustic-town boy who's better with a refined fighting style, and an aristocratic girl who favors a rough-and-brutal style. Hell, this can extend to Snap's retort to Sage's sexist generalization!
...My point being, these is NOT the _obvious_ trans hints that the show pretends they are. And even if they were, this just comes up out of nowhere. Snap chiding Amaryllis for making Sage's potion blow up in Ep3 felt way smoother.
- I hate how haphazard the rules to Hakone's obstacle course are. What was the point of making this a team exercise if only one person can be at the top? And what's with this extremely gaudy trophy with countless precious gems studding it?! It's almost like this only existed to give Parsley an excuse to assault somebody...So thanks, Ep6 - you ruined Parsley's remaining good will.
- ...Is it any coincidence that the most misandristic episode is one of the ones that Kate Leth wrote?
I’m glad you like Parnell, I like the friendship he has with slim boy. The episode where sage went to the crying room, Parnell and slime boy where talking about their feelings, but I guess she was too busy with her own problems to notice. Then she goes with this rant?? Lol
"Blablabla, Thyme said "yeah".. and"
"Girl, let us chilling in that bubble".
Tbh, we had not learned Parnells pronouns by then (I think that's only mentioned in Ep. 8 and nowhere else).
Speaking about Parnell, I took me a while to realize he was supposed to be a boy. I think it has to do with the fact that he has long eyelashes and is voiced by a woman. When I saw him in the concept art in the original trailer I assumed he was going to be a transgender character
Parnelle and Caraway talk about their feelings, Parnelle did it to her DIRECTLY!
Also Rosemary TOLD Aster her name was Rubarb the first time he got it wrong so him never getting it right makes sense.
I don't think Aster’s sexist, he just doesn't take Rosemary seriously. Given how Rosemary acts in the first half of the season, I don't blame him. Let me explain. Think about all of Rosemary’s actions prior to this episode. Rosemary getting distracted by everything, playing with her sword as if it was a toy which led to her nearly slicing someone’s head off, then breaking said sword because she was playing with it, drawing doodles in class, and distracting her classmates to show it to them and as we’ve seen in this episode, Rosemary having a crush on Aster. How are we supposed to depict these actions as anything other than just cute? What doesn’t help is that Rosemary hasn’t gotten any proper character development since the first episode so she’s basically the same. The idea that she’s more than just a cute girl was never conveyed to the audience. So for those reasons you really have no choice but to side with Aster.
But he's never met her before so his assumptions aren't based of past behavior.
@ivorynk752 I'm talking about from the audience perspective. We know Rosemary from the very beginning.
If you see this dumbass swinging her sword around and being proud of an undeserved title as a swordgirl, i can understand why.
Rosemary was in love with him, but her illusions were cut.
@@ivorynk752 To me it's a sense of Aster being meant to have a wrong/dismissive impression of Rosemary, which he might be a bit pompous for assuming in context, but we the audience have a hard time rejecting as hard as we should because what WE see through previous episodes supports that impression, unintentionally or otherwise.
Amaryllis is the only saving grace in this show really. This episode was a highlight example of the main characters, we're supposed to like, being insufferable while some side characters shined better through it all.
Snapdragon is one of those characters that makes you think, "Why weren't you in a better show?"
The purple-haired girl as well.
Guys are afraid to talk about their feelings with people they don't trust deeply, because they've been hurt before for oversharing.
Calling it "toxic masculinity" when men are suffering and surrounded by untrustworthy people is just a way to blame men for being isolated and lacking a support network.
You have to have had ZERO male friends to believe all men are like the worst people you met in high school back when you were a small girl. So why is this anti-male attitude so common in bad writers like the morons responsible for this show's writing? If a man trusts you to listen and handle things maturely and humanely instead of blaming him or exploiting him he'll open up to you about anything, overshare until you ask him to stop, because he's happy to finally have somebody, anybody he feels he can trust, probably for the first time in his life.
I want to make a correction at the 7:06 mark. It does look like more than platonic friendship out of context, but in it's proper context, it's actually less than a friendship. The context is that Rosemary has a problem (granted, it's the "oh noes, I broke the pommel" problem) and Sage then tells her "miss you, love you" but immediately walks off without helping.
Sage be a good friend Challenge (impossible difficulty)
I nearly pulled some of my hair when the pommel was broken..
Like really, WHAT THE HELL IS THIS?
This cartoon was brought to you by the book, "how to draw anime."
Parnell saying he jumped because he doesn't believe in oblivion insinuates he thought he was going to die, he just didn't care because he's not afraid of what happens after death.
yeah thats someone im going to trust out on a battlefield, someone who believes he is immortal and cant be killed
When I was in the US Army, they told us the importance of using a compass when it comes down to Land Navigation.
Is it more complex then just following an arrow around? It wouldn't surprise me if it was
@@Sonicfalcon16 I don't know anything about military compasses, but the type of compass I'm familiar with (orienteering compass?) has a dial you have to turn to know your heading/bearing. There are degrees on the compass which can either be printed as 90° between each cardinal point or 360° all around. The degrees help with specific directions, e.g. South 40° West instead of just "southwest".
Is it useful in a maze that will randomly sprout new walls?
@@ivorynk752 Not really, but at least you'll know which direction you're facing 🙃
@@ivorynk752 no, unironically, no.
Somehow, the more I hear about this series and its teachers, the more I think of the My Hero Academia Abridged from Something Witty. During the entrance exam, while all the kids are in the testing area destroying robots, the teachers are watching from the control room and chanting "EAT SH*T! EAT SH*T!" and betting on how many will die and how quickly.
Aster is the better character in this episode because his worldview is shown to be wrong at every turn. In the end, he acknowledges this and promises to do better, even if his wording is the worst and comes off as condescending. Unfortunately, he doesn't exist outside of this episode, so we'll never know if actually grew from this interaction.
(Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying he was well written, I'm just saying he's the least worst pill to swallow here)
On the other hand, all Sage does is be sexist towards Snapdragon, ignore his feelings and make him feel worse about his gender (exactly what Aster does), except she's rewarded in the end by having Mary Rose to herself again, so she can gaslight and emotionally manipulate all she wants for the rest of the series! And we know for a fact she got worse as the show went on.
So, yeah. As much as Aster was an asshole this episode, he did go through a change for the better at the end. Sage was just as sexist, and she only got worse as the show went on.
The misandry in this episode makes sense when you go into the various statements of the writers of this show. Most of them have a history. Like, peak Tumblr "all men are evil" history. It is really gross and sickening.
Some misandrists i goes after litterally tried to call me out, but they failed to do so.. 😂
That was hilarious to watch.
Do they? :(
@@YourFeelingsSucks What did they and you do? Just interested, if you want to share the story of the event.
I seen a few “it’s all men” on Twitter (rename X).
@@turkoositerapsidi sorry for my late answer, that stupid site didn't notified me..
Having the Teacher make the students try out different weapons might be an interesting idea for the students to find out what they like
Kinda like how Ollivander let the new 1st year to try differents wands.
Definitely.
The first year at this kind of school would absolutely have to be a general education to figure out what each student fits with.
The later years are when specialization should happen.
Yeah but that doesn’t mean he should give Snapdragons personal possession to Amaryllis, I’m sure there were other battle axes there
TMNT 2012 does this as a one episode subplot where it's pointed out that the weapon swapping is SPECIFICALLY because they're unfamiliar with the other weapons and to teach them to improvise instead of becoming complacent, to the point that when they swap back Splinter confiscates their weapons entirely.
It also makes the reasonable result where the Turtles without training in the other weapons fail hard at fighting with them, as opposed to picking them up immediately (which would undermine the point of the exercise in and of itself if they were immediate experts with other stuff)
But even that's done poorly because the teacher doesn't do this for any other student. Just Snap and Rhyllis for some reason.
Oh I know the reason. It's to show that the male character desires to be female because he has the "effeminate" weapon...
OBJECTION! The rapier was used as a dueling weapon not because it was less lethal but because it was easy to carry and fashionable. However, it was less effective in battlefield combat do to it's lack of reach and armor penetration capabilities when compared to polearms (as was true with almost all swords). However, it did still see it's place on the battlefield as a sidearm (as was true of most swords) once again because it was easy to carry. There are only a few exceptions to the "swords are sidearms" rule the most notable being the greatsword, which is basically a polearm due to it's length.
A knight would have a sword in case his lance got stuck in someone.
An archer would have a sword in case he wound up in melee.
A spearman would have a sword in case his spear broke, or he dropped it, or it got stuck in someone.
Mermaids are real in HGS right? So dressing up as a mermaid would be mockery of mermaids or even cultural appropriation.
I usually would not think much about it but the creators of the show tried so hard to say how progressive and diverse they are
Youl could probably write around a story where cultural appropriation is masked xenophobia
I saw a comment on a different High Guardian Spice video stating that mermaids are somewhat of an icon in the trans community. I’m not sure if that’s true or not. Can anyone confirm please?
Reminds me of the movie Bright where Will Smith's character makes a racist joke comparing the (very real) Orcs to Shrek, which makes no sense because in a world where fantasy creatures are real Shrek would never have been made.
@@avalasialovein old legends, Mermaids were painted as horrible creatures who lure men by their songs.
If anything, it's in disfavor to the community.
But heh, they have never thought of that, hmm?
Unironically, Carraway lured Snapdragon to do "trans magic".
@@avalasialove HUGE Disclaimer: Cis-Male sharing things I've heard secondhand but not experienced or witnessed, this might be better as an angle to investigate than anything concrete coming from me.
Did they mention anything about specific stories or aspects? The first thing this brings to mind for me is how Disney's Ariel evidently resonates with a lot of Queer people because of her story centering on feeling out of place/like an outsider in the role/world she was born into and raised in while having her non-traditional fascinations/feeling of belonging elsewhere stigmatized by even her family. I don't know regarding Mermaids as an entire race/icon or if it's a few significant depictions like the above extending out, to be clear.
This especially comes through as a perspective with the context that Howard Ashman, the lyricist behind TLM and Beauty & The Beast among MANY other works, was a Gay Man living with HIV/AIDS in the 90's, a VERY difficult/"outside" place to be. That perspective puts a very sad and longing context behind "Part of Your World," a song Ashman and the crew considered so integral to the story that they pushed back studio calls to remove the sequence while Ashman was in the recording booth with Jodi Benson coaching her line by line for the performance.
The above is to say I don't know context for Mermaids as a whole being iconic to the Trans Community, but perhaps that can illuminate the significance they have as a result of one extremely recognizable and influential depiction.
Since actual mermaids exist in this show is dressing like one at a party offensive to them?
I don’t know, everyone else dresses as some non human creature that day too, who have all shown to be sentient. So I’ve got no clue, this is probably one of those times where the writers should have done some world building
I don't think so..
Only the humans finds it "offensive".
I gotta say the artstyle is at least cute... sometimes
If you want to see a great review that did acknowledge that, I recommend a video called Crunchyroll Didn’t Stop: High Guardian Spice. It’s a great positive review of the show, made by an anime UA-camr who was somewhat infamous for their abrasive videos (they made one called Dear Crunchyroll: STOP, which is the reason for the title.) they made a positive review of High Guardian Spice as a way to repent because they felt they hurt people with their words. I don’t really agree with the positive conclusion on the show but I respect that video a lot it’s fantastic.
The artstyle is so nauseating to me..
@Tacorikit it definitely has that Tumblr vibe. Which I'm not a huge fan of. But there are some still here and there that look appealing
As a Fine Arts graduate, I can judge that the backgrounds are almost nonsensical and it absolutely pisses me off. A lot of these are simply trying to emulate the photorealistic anime background style, resulting in a style that is devoid of character. Too bright, not enough contrast, has details that are too sharp and overly-pronounced to the point that it conflicts with the characters' appearances and resulting in a mess of tiny, unnecessary details. The original concept sketches for the backgrounds don't even add up as well.
I gotta admit that some of the designs looked great on the concept art that was shown in the original teaser trailer, but in the series proper looks kind of off in various scenes. It has a problem in that it sometimes tries to imitate the aesthetics of manga and anime, but it just looks like those poorly made anime parodies from the 2000s, it's especially obvious in the episode where Sage and Amarylis become chibi style and the ending sequence where they were directly referencing Azumanga Daioh
the snapdragon storyline also comes across as grooming and manipulative as well snapdragon is depressed because he doesn't fit his father's definition of a man instead of helping him accept himself for who he is caraway, and the writers try to push for him to transition.
Show tried to normalize a very harmful thing on a young character who is experiencing identity crisis.
Instead of teaching him to enjoy himself for who he is, he should become who he isn't, and that's the problem to me.
As a LGBT person, i'm IMMENSELY against the transition of anyone who are way younger than 18 or even.. 25 yo.
But, but, the smallsword (I think its more like smasllsword than rapier) is a true gentlemans weapon he needs to also wear all the time as fashion item. There can not be a more manly weapon. :)
How would you have written the Snapdragon story them bein transgender better, 'm just wondering, not saying that you are wrong. I just would not like to werite as bad show than this one is.
A better way to portray Aster is for him to be an old school gentleman. He has an honor system and is respectful to everyone. However, his principles are that woman are the ones who needs to be protected and doesn't think they can do it on their own. This way his sexism is very inadvertent. Also I still have him make an ass out of himself but not completely incompetent. That way it shows that Aster isn't perfect but he's trying his best to be the ideal Gentleman.
It's obvious that the woman/women (All female staff, remember?) who wrote this episode either
A. Had a bad relationship with their middle school boyfriend that they haven't gotten over.
B. Are just bitter that men won't sleep with them (and judging by the appearance and personality of the women behind this show, it tells)
C. Only hanged out with gay men.
D. Obviously B
For the points, but especially C, it's very true.
Yet those women would say, unironically..
"Duuuuur! Gay men are misogynists for not dating us!"
if kate leth is anything to go by, the majority of them would be considered incels if the genders were reversed
E. All of the above.
A and B are certainly right, but I'd also add that these writers may have never even befriended men in the first place, even in their childhood. It may be that even as young as 8 they may have already engrained misandry and continued to be reinforced with it through media.
You should also take into account that all the female characters in this show has some sort of a mother-figure problem or an abusive family narrative, which I think Mr. Enter may have mentioned it previously. Not only they were enforcing misandry in the show but also ideas against the nuclear family structure.
Why do these people hate the nuclear family? What’s the issue? @@GatlingPea32
Aster kind of feels likes the creators KNEW that the maincharacters wouldn’t be liked so they made a even worse one to make them look better by comparison. You know I like shipping (if its done well) you know what I hate? FAKE LOVE TRIANGLES(that’s when it totally obvious who the real couple is going to be, but the show has a third party in there to drag things out) Look if you want to pair rosemary and sage together fine I can get it, but DON’T put others in there as fake paring(s) either to draw the ship you want out or make it look better.
He's a plot device. Or a character device?
I don't care how old this show is
I hope the internet keep reminding everyone how this show really tried to sneak Propaganda
I was SO MAD in this episode; they could have easily made Aster a significantly more appealing character but the writers' hatred towards men really screwed it 😢
Wow, whether it's a boy and a girl, or two boys or two girls, nobody knows how to write a romance plot that goes beyond "tHeRe'S sOmEoNe ElSe"
And GOD that's not even the worst part of the episode. Sage is so unlikeable it's not even funny. I shouldn't be shocked by the show that basically had one of its main selling points being a 50% female writing room, but WOW.
Unknow forces forbidd us to enjoy a simple friendship or platonic relationship, thanks to shippers..
I'm not even shocked that the show handled either terribly, and keep in mind..
"Rosemary and Sage know each other since childhood",
But their past are NEVER seen, even Raye said that they're "shipping materials"..
I always thought that bit where the teacher gives Snapdragon the rapier weird. Sure it might not be the best fit for them, but he wants to use the axe. Why not TEACH them how they can use it better?
Snap seemed to accept it and take to it pretty quickly.
@@theuncalledforand that's the mistake.
If one piece taught me something, the characters got a proper sword after years of training.
Zoro got wooden swords in his childhood and real swords when he was of age.
The framework of the scene seems reasonable enough to work with, but it needs to go beyond just the weapon swap. Like have Snapdragon demonstrate how they fight with the Axe, showing some clear flaws in their handling (be it struggling with the weight/balance or just trying to use it in a way that doesn't work). Professor sees this, suggests trying another weapon like a Rapier or Saber, and Snapdragon taking naturally to it since it's a better fit for the style (not mastery, but just picking it up faster than their sloppy Axe wielding).
It's a time commitment to make both the weapon usage and the thematic implications "show, don't tell", which as discussed and I presume will later be shown more, is a major thing this show has trouble with because of how thin it spreads itself in its 12 episodes trying to do so many unnecessary plots.
@@YourFeelingsSucks
That would apply to both weapons, though. Not just the rapier.
@@theuncalledfor Is that even a proper rapier? It isn't that long compared for the teacher character and it is also a very narrow sword with no cutting edge at all, sure not all rapiers had a blade, but the later smallsword is propably better description for this weapon.
Funny thing, I would argue this plot can be done right. I would argue Deltarune basically has a side plot of the same thing, Berdie and his crush on Susie is basically the same plot point as Aster in this episode. They even had the usually nice and polite friend beat up the dumb man at the end for his arrogance, in Deltarune too. The difference is though, there’s a way to do this stuff well.
Even closer example in RWBY.
Jaune Arc was also fairly postering and prone to macho thinking (less 'I'm better than you' than 'I must stand on my own' which is a lot closer to what guys think.) But he's also the constant button of jokes, the target of mockery and gets put down by everyone. A d this affects him, makes him go through a constant cycle of trying to gain self worth without being the big noble hero but constantly struggling with it.
0:12 UA-cam can't let us call a Bastard Sword a Bastard Sword or a Rapier a Rapier because the Bot is a Draconian monster of Censorship and "Family Friendly Content".
Aster is SO badly written a sexist character, when the show was releasing and random clips were getting uploaded on UA-cam, people, myself included, thought a blonde girl character who complained about a forest exercise WAS Aster having been punished for his sexism by by being turned into a girl... and while that wasn't the case, it was a better story idea than what actually happened, which really is sad
I'm not personally a fan of the whole force a magical transformation on a person as a punishment or to "teach them a lesson", but gosh I'd rather have that than a boring story we've been given here.
Like, I had a similar idea like that with the other bully from later, Cal, that they have dropped out of the episode early because they were done using him to bully Snapdragon for wanting to be a mermaid... on a mission that required them to transform into mermaids. I kept thinking they could have done more drama and story if they hadn't ditched Cal immediately as a tool, as maybe he's seen to learn a lesson after he's forced on this mission. Even do a funny thing where Cal pivots by the end of the episode and is fully for being a mermaid and frolics off to transfer to the mermaid's school, meanwhile Snap realizes what they actually want isn't to be a boy mermaid, but their gender thing of that they actually realize they wanted to be a girl, highlighting the difference in feminine/masculine surface traits that you can embrace no matter your gender versus actual feminine/masculine gender questioning feelings.
But nope.
You think this kind of writing would have died in the 90s. But this show brought it back.
Again, here what I would do if I could rewrite this. Aster starts off cocky but is a capable and competent fighter. For the class, Rosemary tries to do an obstacle course. To her surprise, Aster genuinely wants to help and teach her new moves. She doesn't fall in love but develops some respect.
As for Sage and Snapdragon. Sage does grumble about Rosemary spending too much time with Aster. Snapdragon points out how she should be so jealous, telling her the time Amaryllis hanged out with another kid. He explains that Amaryllis defended him from bullies (Much like how Rose protected Sage). She explains that before she came to the school, she didn't have any friends besides Rosemary. Also, both Sage and Snapdragon realizes they both like the same book series.
As someone who is non-binary trans I feel like what causes Snapdragon to get upset is constantly hearing "he" and "she" all the time. Like they are an outside party in this because they use "they/them" but that is just something personal to me. It's apparent Sage doesn't care about her friend because she keeps saying the most horrid things around them not taking into account their feelings especially because they are trans. However this show is such a shit show that they don't convey this properly. It makes me uncomfortable for that reason. Like they queer bait constantly with characters. It's really bad.
something that always bugs me about media that sells itself on LGBT representation is that said media always gives the worst possible representation. and bad representation can drive up hate instead of fighting it. if the loudest voices that claim to speak on your behalf also portray you as a horrible person then all that does is give the people that hate you more evidence to use against you. and that's a bad thing for very obvious reasons. speaking as a gay man myself i'd much rather have no representation than the horrible stereotypical portrayals of gay people found in progressive media.
they know they need a gimmick, because what they are on their own isn't good enough.
Not to sound cringe as sh*t, but High Guardian Spice not make a bad episode challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
Whats the chalenge?
@@turkoositerapsidi I meant to say “High Guardian Spice, try not to make a bad episode challenge.”
@@IronThomasthePokemonfan37 Ah, you did mean that the series should have a good episode, but it can not?
@@turkoositerapsidi Yeah, I meant that it’s impossible for the series to make a single good episode.
@@IronThomasthePokemonfan37 Thanks, I got it. I thought it was a some meme thing first.
Sage uses the most darkest spell “Double Standards”
A litlle bit of defense for The Rapier. It absolutely was used for combat. Great for helping getting into the gaps of Armor. Especially if you were mounted. The problem is what snap dragon is using isnt a rapier at least not a combat rapier. It looks to be a dedicated fencing rapier or tuck. Which are solely for fencing style hema.
Haven't even watched the full video yet, but I just want to say that I think we all could have guessed that this show was going to get sexist at some point.
If I recall correctly, the show staff went on this proud monologue about there being diversity and all that other nonsense and yet the writers room was filled mostly white cis women, safe a few exceptions.
Now, there's nothing wrong with being a white cis woman, but we all knew there were probably going to be issues writing the dynamics and feelings between men and women. Like, there's no men in the room to share their experiences to aid the writing.
In some minor amount of defense to the staff, apparently the clip for that trailer were recorded without them being informed it would be for marketing (as opposed to like a making-of documentary or something), so even if they all do believe this it might be more on Crunchyroll marketers cutting it together when the staff wouldn't want to sell the show that way (as opposed to being a "we're proud of this incidentally but here's what we think the show's strong suit is").
This all while acknowledging the other points like citing diverse staff with homogenous members shown in the Writers Room or the poor quality of the actually-delivered show.
This show clearly reveals how it hates man apparently ._.
Mr Enter, you always put a smile on my face, just seeing you so dedicated to your work just inspires me, thank you for being my favorite animation critic!
I feel like the artists don't know the difference between a rapier and a fencing saber, because that's CEARLY the latter.
Oh there's a difference? Imteresting
@@Sonicfalcon16 It depends on who you ask, really; some sources classify them differently, while others don't.
Rapiers are like needles and fencing sabers are like really long thin swords right?
@@DJPrimeAmvs Other way around, but yeah. Hell, the "rapier" in this episode doesn't even look a fencing saber; it looks like someone welded a skewer onto a hilt.
@@Jaceblue04i think that’s because that’s how a lot of cartoons draw rapiers, as just a big spike on a hilt
9:16 Maybe it wasn't intended, but it definitely doesn't help when one of the staff on the show say on Twitter that men should die or something to that effect. Unless that's moreso just more of a showing of toxic femininity.
9:09 this whole segment reminded me of the "hanlon's razor" statement:
"don't attribute to malice what can be easily explained as stupidity"
Alternatively, this could mean that the show is so incompetent, even their attempts at "take thats" towards the things they dislike fall flat on their faces and can't even convey their hatred right.
Sage talking about how guys don’t talk about their feelings. She completely forgot that Parnell and Slime boy were talking about their feelings with her
Rapiers are definitely a very deadly weapons, they are built to be very agile, very quick, they stab very quickly and an unlike slashing weapons that may well leave a nasty laceration on your chest or abdomen the rapier goes in deep and can very easily puncture organs.
True, rapiers are deadly, but arent they less suited for multible foes, and thats why better in duels?
Also isn't Snapdragon's sword in the cartoon more like the later period smallsword than a rapier based on its not as long length and narrower "blade", I mean it has no cutting edge either, but this can be true for rapiers as well.
And smallsword even being lighter version of rapier is still deadly dueling weapon.
High Guardian Academy seems to put as much value in keeping their students alive as most social media sites do in keeping themselves consistent and user-friendly.
They're not just bad at it: they're AGGRESSIVELY AGAINST IT.
Usually in fictional media when writing a character flaw there are 3 aspects to consider (though you don't necessarily need all 3 of them). The first is having other characters call out the flaw (it can be directly or indirectly behind their backs), the second and arguably more important is facing consequences because of the flaw and the last is reflection on said flaw (whether they can change/overcome it or not is up to the author) though this should come after at least 1 of the previous 2 aspects. This is especially true when that character is one of the main characters and not the antagonist/villain (which can get a pass though they shouldn't either).
Sage's character flaws (being manipulative, overly sensitive and even being outright sexist) doesn't go through any of these. Snapdragon sorta calls her out but not really, she doesn't really face any consequences nor does she really reflect on said flaw. Without any of these 3 aspects the only thing that's left is sympathy, we are meant to sympathise with her character and viewpoint which for most people didn't happen though it speaks a lot about the writers that they expect us to sympathise/relate with Sage's character.
Simon Belmont from Captain N makes a return
I do agree this show queerbaits a lot, but I hang with a LOT of trans people and sometimes the journey to finding your identity isn't a clean, start-to-finish journey. I never realized I was pan for years despite a *LOT* of clear signs that I just like men more than women.
My assumption for SnapDragon is that the showrunners huff their own farts enough that they sincerely believed this show would be good enough to get a second season.
Yeah, on the subject of men not talking about their feelings: I have been the one sober girl in a party of my SO and his guy friends, and they always end up talking deeply about their struggles and feelings. It’s really sweet.
I mean…they are all drunk during the talks 😂 but still, they talk about it and remember later to pick up again next party lol.
5:35 iok. wierdly enough, the sage snap conversation and the whole thing about snap being trans post show together makes me wierdly mad.
the reaction snap had at 6:23 and stuff in later episodes makes me more feel that snap is just sick of gender role bullshit in general. heck even that snap caraway conversation later implies more that snap wants to change the body, not the gender.
what makes snaps conflict even more stupid imo is the fact that this universe is primed for someone to change their body in any way shape and form and yet snap doesnt know about these magics. he could just look that up. like this show has animagi and no rules on the magic system. it has rings that transform you into actual mermaids with gills and stuff. if snap really hates how his body looks, if that includes gender or not, he couldl just use new magic to fix this. right now. without caraways shit potion since caraways potion is temp. and probably less controllable then the transformation magic snap wants.
Can we just accept at this point that the creator and writing staff were never on the same page? Like you said, the creator claims Snapdragon was trans. However, the series implies the opposite since when given the opportunity to change genders, Snapdragon refused. Plus, as you also stated, the potion was only temporary. Let's play devil's advocate and say Snapdragon wasn't sure if they were trans or not, what would be the worst thing if they decided to take the potion? Either they take it and are happier, or they take it and realize they're not trans and are possibly something else like gender fluid instead.
I mean, if the potion actually had a downside it would make sense, but the series presents it like it doesn't have any. Heck I would have taken them having Snapdragon refusing because it would have put Caraway in trouble since it would be a teacher giving that potion to a minor, but I'm guessing the series doesn't present that as an issue, does it?
I ironically like Aster because him being a forgettable jerk subverts the expectations of most pretty boys.
In a lot of stories pretty boys are either guys that are
1.) Plot devices with no personality and or not very smart
2.) Overconfident manipulators
3.) Only interesting because they have a tragic backstory
Him just being a forgettable jerk is ironically funny to me because a lot of writers would have chosen 1 of the 3 above options which I would have hated.
Besides that Aster add least teaches a lesson about the risk someone take when they focus so much on a person's appearance and he shows how some pretty boys in real life aren't as interesting as they look.
PS: It is also annoying to me that petty boys are often the same type of men which are tall athletic white men with short hair. As a writer I think if you want to make a guy attractive to a bunch of women, then just make them talented and or confident in there abilities.
So this confirms that the show has at least 5 self inserts lmao
Rosemary is pre transition raye.
Caraway is post transition raye.
Snapdragon is julia (rayes friend).
Olive is rayes irl cat.
Kino is another of rayes cat.
Neppy who i belive is also another cat of raye.
Did they made the show for the public? Or to fullfill some kind of fantasy?
That's a rhetorical question, right?
lmao@@theuncalledfor
Also slimeboy may be a self insert too, since it looks and acts a lot like his voice actor who is also a musician, just like slimeboy
The only one I saw explicitly as a self-insert was Caraway: looks like, voiced by, and has the same backstory as the creator.
Rosemary just struck me as a typical brash main character who needs to grow up as her school days go on.
And the cats are, well, cats lol
Also I have done no research on the cast, so I had no idea Snapdragon was voiced by a trans man. All I knew of the cast was the creator as Caraway, and they had some veteran voice actors like Cam Clarke (1980s Leonardo, male Corrin from Fire Emblem Fates, swole Neppy-cat in HGS), Stephanie Sheh (Orihime, Viz uncut dub Sailor Moon, human form Olive in HGS), and Barbara Goodson (Rita Repulsa, Demon Prince Laharl, the potions teacher and Parnell in HGS).
I know neppy isnt a real cat but olive and Kino are. I really wouldn’t call them self inserts since they’re, like, cats? I also haven’t heard or seen any evidence for Rosemary being a pre transition insert and idk where people got that idea. But caraway is definitely an insert yeah.
Considering the writer of this episode started the "Kill All Men" hashtag and still hasn't apologized for it, I can't say I'm surprised how misandrist this episode comes off.
That would be a bit of a cool dilemma.
Snapdragon thinking he's not a man because he wants to talk about his feelings. Then later on, he learns that yes, men do talk about their feelings. You are no less of a man if you do. He could learn that men can do many things considered feminine. And then he'll realize he can still be a man.
But then, you'd get the thing that is even more of a sin in Hollywood than sexism (against women)... detransitioners.
That could be a story line given to professor Caraway in a flashback to early in his transition, feeling like his transition didn't mean anything because his personality doesn't conform to stereotypes.
Rapiers and one handed swords alike were used for self defense, in the way you'd use a pistol for self defense. It's good when you're not expecting all out combat against possibly armored enemies, in short duration fights. For expected combat, you pick primary weapons, like a pole arm or a great sword. But it is a fantasy show.
SORRY, long text.
Yes, one handed swords were usually sidearms, and rapier is no different. But in combination with large shield, one hand was sometimes used as the main weapon, but this was before renassance where rapier is from.
Also I did read that rapier was not that good against many opponents, but saber or broad sword were more versatile renassance swords used in battles. They could also slash well unlike rapiers.
Also medieval guns were not very great, but later in renassance and beyond they became better to reload and use, pole arm and gun were primary weapons. Then came the sting blade (how to say in Englis) to add to gun making it a pole arm as well as ranged weapon.
Also isn't the sword Snapdragon uses, actually closer to the later era smallsword than proper rapier? A sword that was light and much easier for gentlemen to carry around as fashion item, but deadly enough to kill someone in duels.
The sword in the show is very narrow, does not have a blade, only point, is not that long compared to the older characters, just thinking.
@@turkoositerapsidi There have been rapiers which don't sport any cutting edges, but they were in the minority, as you say. The sword is small, compared to her size, it's normal length for a short sword. As we both said, it's quite common for a gentle man to use as his self defense weapon, as well as a symbol of status. The effectiveness of the sword depended on the user, they were certainly better for thrusting than sabers, but it's not likely to see a rapier on the battlefield, even combined with a shield, because they were meant for fighting unarmored opponents without shields. In these cases, a sabre or arming sword is better, as it can cut through padded armor, and won't break if made Contact with a shield. When guns were introduced in warfare, they were usually rifle length, but mercenaries would rather use pistols and swords, as you said, as they didn't benefit from regimented battle and often took place in close quarters. Here, rapiers were sometimes used, but sabres, I assume, were still preferred, because they were sturdier, and because rapiers cannot deflect heavier swords very well. Again, it comes down to the usage. The rapier would've worked well along with a buckler, as you said, but on its own it's not good for someone who expects a fight. It is fine for someone just going about their day, as a measure of self protection.
@@Poeneutral You are correct in your points, but isn't actual rapier a very long, but narrow sword with big hand protection, and the later period "smallsword" similar but smaller, to make it more easy to carry. 1700s gentlemen had it as part of their clothing.
I am not anglo, in my native language Suomi 🇫🇮, it is called "pukumiekka", miekka = sword, puku is substantive of pukeutua (to dress), puku also means the suit that men or business people wear, or a costume.
@@turkoositerapsidi You are correct. Like most swords, the rapier was a also a status symbol, paired with clothing. Kind of like how you may wear a watch to be fashionable. It may be that some would wear a rapier as an accessory alone, but a weapon remains a weapon. It was indeed meant to be used for self defense as well as dueling. It did not have to have a basket hilt, but the guards were typically bigger than other types of swords, due to the techniques used in dueling. The Small Sword you're talking about is an evolution of the rapier which took a much greater focus on the aspect of thrusting. While Rapiers were primarily for thrusting, they still typically had blades, the Small Sword more typically had a rounded or triangular form, tapering to the distil point. The Short Sword was indeed primarily for dueling, but it was also used by high ranking members of the military, in its time. It too, was a status symbol for gentlemen, even moreso than the former Rapier. However, in common understanding, the difference between the two is pretty small.
@@Poeneutral Yeah, difference is mostly its size.
Honestly that's isn't either a rapier, it looks more like an epee. Which is strictly fencing(sport) weapon (lack for a better trem).
They only have a very small point at the tip, if even that. A rapier has a blade, and that has cone shape "blade".
On medieval weapons, unlike in fiction. Both bows and crossbows requirer tons of upper body strength.
Not all swords have a blade, some were only for stabbing. Not all rapiers had ability to cut, and even those that did were not that great for it. But rapiers were not light. They were lethal stabbing weapons tho.
But I do think the sword Snapdragon uses is thin and small, also not that long for the older teacher character, so it could be a smallsword. It was part of every gentlemans clothing he weared everywhere he went. It is a later period than rapier, replaced it for peing easier to carry, but deadly in duels.
Spoer fencing épée is non-lethal version for smallsword, that bends easily and has no point.
Oh geez, glad I never hate watched the show. I'm shocked, just SHOCKED to see this "amazing diverse writing team" stepped into the trap of Lifetime Movie Writing, where all men are either your family, your gay friend, or literally Satan. The shock comes from the fact that it took them til episode 6.
the two ads i got before this video, was more entertaining than this episode
This is what happens when your writers room is 100% ideologues.
Addendum: guys do talk about their feelings, they just don’t do it in the same way.
You mean 100% idiots.
The three mages mentioned a selection process for getting into the school.
Whatever’s supposed to be wrong with Aster, he passed it.
What does that say about their selection process??
And Parnell looks like 2-3 years younger than the other 1st years, how did he get in?
@@ivorynk752 I guess he’s a prodigy or something. I just hope they teach him to take “oblivion” seriously.
I bursted in laughter where one of them (the grandma) said:
"Your writting sucks"
And they kept it! 😂
Eh, that selection process allowed Rosemary in, too, and she was also an incompetent klutz.
@@MrAuthor3DS Yeah, so that’s two klutzes!
Gotta applaud your use of I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream audio on the title card. Very fitting.
14:17 I've never heard "lush" used to describe a person, only on stuff like grass. But now I can see she's basically saying her mom's an alcoholic.
Sage from Episode 06 of High Guardian Spice: Female friendships are strong and last forever
Kei from Episode 08 of the 1985 anime, Dirty Pair: You know female friendships don't often last forever
Yeah... I think Kei's logic makes more sense
My friendship with guys lasted waaay longer than other women.
Barely any other women can keep a friendship alive, so a relationship.. 😂
Sage says guys don’t talk about their feeling when in the previous episode, Parnell was talking about his feelings…
Episodes like this is exactly why you don't want a writer's room that's all one gender, male or female.
Yeah, this episode really shows a part of the "men are bad" mentality of some of the writers.
12:45 The only way he could be less subtle is if he was Palpatine screaming "DO IT!"
Sage and aster could have both been wrong in the episode and we would have a lesson about how both men and women can be toxic but sage isnt wrong apperantly because her speech is what started snapdragons transistion according to the writers.
Oh shit i accidentally wrote a good episode how to am i going to force my shitty takes in there now?
Yea this episode was the one that broke me, Aster could have been a funny character, but apperantly were not suppost to laugh at him were suppose to be disgusted and take him seriously. He is a device for the story and a very weak one at that.
Also would you say this show is worse or on par with Velma? I think it's definitely up there, but Velma is worse because it takes an existing beloved IP like Scooby Doo and shits all over it.
The UA-cam channel Jamie De Jonge did a fantastic job on rewriting the Sage being sexist to SnapDragon and has done many awesome rewritten High Guardian Spice scenes
I highly recommend checking them out 😁
He’s probably seen that. He mentioned the user in the trans episode.
Admit it, Aster only exists because all men are apparently evil
Ah...The show is bad, but it's a slow-burn kind of bad, you don't get into the reasons why it's bad until the mid-way point...Wow...Basically, the complete opposite of shows like Bojack Horseman or Morel Orel, you know shows that get GOOD if not great until the mid-way point...And the biggest problem in this show I can see now is the total bigotry...But not from the characters, but rather the creators because this is just another round of small-minded, vengeful, spiteful, pathetic overcorrection, because the only way the ham-fists of Hollywood and indie developers that want to have a message in their shows is in order to make one side look good, they need to make the other side the perceived opposite, ironically bigotry will survive as long as humanity walks the Earth
0:10 You know something is wrong with a website when you can't even say the correct pronunciation of an object.
9:04 Hey, it's that one song from the console version of The SpongeBob SquarePants Movie videogame.
Instead of rapier you could've called it a "fencing foil" or similar seeing as it doesn't have a cutting edge.
Well, not all rapiers had cutting edge, and those that did, were usually not that deadly as cutting, it was not a finishing move with a rapier. But rapiers were very long and deadly for stabbing from a distance (compared to earlier arming swords).
Also Isn't the sword in the show more like the smallsword, that evolved from rapier as gentlemens easier to carry fashionable dueling weapon that was also deadly for stabbing. Some of them did not have any cutting edge either. And the sport fencing sword evolved from smallswords.
Thanks for the lesson, no sarcasm. I'm a bit more used with the terms from my native language, and I assumed it was more of a foil given that it looks fir for training than fighting for one's life@@turkoositerapsidi
@@plumaDshinigami I myself am not anglo as well. In my native language smallsword is called pukumiekka. Miekka = sword, puku is substantive for pukeutua (to dress), or it means suit the clothing, or a costume.
Snapdragon's sword looks very similar to the fencing foil, true. But the foil is essentially smalsword that is made non-lethal by removing stifness and the sharp point.
I'm Mexican, and espadín can be... seen as a childish way of calling a sword a tiny sword, like baby talk@@turkoositerapsidi