"If an INTJ gets to that point where they can't get what they need in life, if they can't get to their envisioned idea, they're eventually going to make so many sacrifices that they become a villain in their own life." That's too accurate.
I feel like Walter White exemplifies this so well. He’s satisfied being a chemistry teacher until he is diagnosed with cancer and progressively becomes more involved in the meth trade. He suddenly craves more and more power; he wants to manage an empire. He begins to sacrifice everything for his goals, disregarding the affects they have on his family and friends. By the end, everyone he cared about or worked with either hates him or is dead.
@@scouttrooperhh-1487 not necessarily revenge executed by us, more revenge executed by life. I personally just disappear and move on, life will do its own thing.
A villain isn’t always seeing that they’re being vengeful. They can be seeking justice or what they perceive to be justice, which would be differing from the masses view of justice, which is why he’s an INTJ. He’s not like the others.
@@rithrius5384 I don't necessarily agree, because Fi child means he holds himself up to his own moral ideal, and killing someone when it is not necessary would mean that his ideals are not good, and are possibly evil. In terms of practicality, being a comic book hero, he has to at least try to take villains alive, otherwise Batman wouldn't be the good guy. I don't think Batman is a perfect match for the INTJ type, but it would explain some of his deficits or quirks, such as the fact that he's an Introverted eccentric billionaire who dislikes being in large groups of people. He prefers to be alone. He puts intimate relations on the back burner. He's highly selective about who he trusts. He has a knack for pattern recognition, and exercises a "mind over matter" approach.
Batman is ENTJ Bruce Wayne is INTJ... Catwoman did not understand this and that is why she preferred Batman to Bruce Wayne. Best Batman, Michael Keaton. don't argue with me or I will take over your world... meow...
Batman is someone who changed his natural personality ( ego) onto his superego or subconscious early in his life, after the accident with his parents. I think he’s struggling with his true self big time. That’s why we can’t pinpoint him. I don’t like him and his development of the character at all. But I’m sure there will be a movie that goes deeper into it soon. I mean come on, it’s a market gap. ESFP
@@annsmith936 You watched the wrong Batman...lol I grew up with the tv show Batman. This show had meaning, morals, and lessons. And it was fun! Watch a few of the Adam West Burt Ward episodes, try where they walk up the side of the buildings and famous people open their windows to see Batman and Robin climbing past their lofty intentions. Seriously, this show is funny and wonderful and so far from Dark that its Batman lite. And very much worth the watch to get a different perspective on Batman. And Julie Newmar is the only Catwoman, meow...I can still do the Eartha Kitt growl, that lesson got me grounded.
As an INTJ, I can confidently say that the only thing keeping me from becoming a villain is my family. Without them to ground me in reality I would have no empathy for anyone.
Same, most importantly for me is my son, he's the only person who can turn me into mush. Being so nonchalant about others is definitely something Im working on. I wanna stay in touch eith my human side, even if feelings are not my dominant function.
I agree 100 percent with that. It’s not that I don’t necessarily want to empathize with other people, but I lack the internal tools to analyze them. It’s something I was able to build on, due to the presence of my family. Without them, I wouldn’t regard anyone at all, because at times I still don’t understand certain emotional responses. With age it’s becoming easier, but it’ll always be something I’ll never fully understand. It’s like being blind and being able to navigate in the world of the seeing and yet you’ll still never have sight.
@@Raphsophomes umm... no INTJs have Fe trickster. We aren't repressed. We literally have NO empathy whatsoever in normal situations. Please respect that 13% of ALL HUMANS have Fe trickster. Stop discriminating against us. We aren't broken. We are normal. If you think otherwise you are part of the problem.
@@jacobwiren8142 depends on your thinking & feeling score, me almost balance between T & F, 50% plus for T, 40% plus for F. My Introvert, Intuitive & Judging score all almost 90% plus.
"Single minded focus". Completely spot on. Got a goal, its a strong one, willing to do what it takes to meet it, obsess until complete. Move on to next goal. Repeat.
Jane Austen, who was an INTJ, wrote a story about an INTJ man who everybody types as villain at the very start of the novel, because he's rich and doesn't care about the feelings of people who is not in his inner circle. It happens also that he has very loyal friends, his family and servants adore him, an ultimately he learns that love must be earned, and he fixes all he can in order to make his beloved happy. I think Austen portrayed and INTJ with more depth and layers than the stereotype of Intj=evil because she knew what she was talking about.
I adore Darcy because in reading about him I wasn’t crushing on him, but feeling a sense of kinship, feeling understood. I know this person … I know why he is like this.
Now, I know why I'm always so insensitive when bad things happen. I tend to picture any kind of situation so vividly that almost nothing surprises me anymore. Interesting videos, anyway. Good job.
@@orion4403 bruh... same 😳 I thought it's just me, I was seriously thinking that there's something wrong with me cuz I didn't feel anything when my grandma died (she died 10 days ago from cancer which we discovered about 8-9 months ago before her death so I had plenty of time to picture any possible outcome). Honestly your comment brought me much needed relief 😄
@@orion4403 when I was really little I reacted a lot but basically same. It feels like I'm just feel the pressure of the emotions and they then disapate because I've already dealt with them so many times.
My brother would always complain that I'm too boring. He gets annoyed that I don't react to things the way he expects me to like whenever a serious situation comes up, I'm too calm as if I don't care. I remember my mom telling me that I act as if I'm in my own little world just sitting on the side without care of what's happening around me. I really wanna tell them that I DO care, in fact I care more than anyone to the point that I just already thought of any possible scenarios so many times inside my head that it doesn't faze me anymore when it actually happens.
Yes I think anything has two side One good one bad The bad side of getting wiser sooner is to be lonelier And it seems that lots of time we gotta pay for it I used to complain about it But not anymore Cause it's the cost we should pay And to be honest, we like to be alone too! I personally love the times I'm alone ! But I didn't mean to be 100 percent alone
As an INTJ myself, I can feel potential for darkness and lightness inside me, I know I can do both really well. I could either be the one to bring chaos or the one to solve it (ohhhh, that sounds really good, I may add it to a story I’m writing)
We quietly go about our business, laying low and moving in the shadows. People can see we're working on something, but for some reason we don't share it. Clearly, we're hiding something. In reality, we just like peace and quiet to focus. We're prone to sensory overload and too much attention can induce it.
@@AsuraPsych 😂😂😂 I get it bro, we villains really have a hard time finding our type of stuff, like I always wanted a sort of black cape with a big hood but apparently they dont make that kind of villainy looking stuff 😁😁
A word of advice from a fellow INTJ to the younger ones. Start ur self awareness journey ASAP, and keep in mind that love is a spectrum. Romantic love is a dust cloud that u walk thru, breathe in, get high off of for a while, then when u find the meaning and logic of it, u move on like closing a book or changing ur underwear. Stop feeling sorry for urself and cut that longing feeling of wanting to merge with others totally so that someone understands u (unless it's a plan to get to another step). Noone will ever truly understand u for realsies, and THAT is ur superpower. That's what makes u be able to move behind the veil. If u do find someone, make sure they work well with ur values and lifestyle and keep ur deepest thoughts to urself and God. Smart ppl who may be like u will pay attention to ur actions and wonder 'why' and gravitate towards u naturally. Study game theory and change management, apply to life. Rinse, Repeat and Improve. Focus on stability and growth. Money is a tool, Intentions can be the root of evil, depends. U are to operate like the devil without the 'evil'. Hope this helps.🤗
As an intj we are just very very motivated people but we are most likely not going to not want to become a villain. And I’m an autistic intj so I can become VERY very GOAL oriented and forget about feeling but stuff try and understand feelings. And I’m glad I have a very sensitive opposite they are a intp. And I’m also very glad I have a very sensitive best friend infp. And I agree 5:52 I get told this so much as a small person I get very underestimated so much in wrestling and I’m going to join football as a 99 pound 5’2 person who can barely put on weight but that doesn’t stop me doing what I love. This really explains a lot of things honestly. Good video.
“The more an INTJ fails to meet their goals, the more they’re willing to sacrifice.” So that’s why Elon Musk was willing to keep blowing up million dollar rockets?
I think we INTJ are often portrayed as villains because we have very detached attitude that is concerned with autonomy and effectiveness first. Heroic journeys are stories told often to teach people to respect one another and appreciate one another. Therefore the hero learns to rely on others and to let go of control, to embrace things as they are, live and let live, and taking action now. A bit of a reactive posture. The hero is spontaneous. We have the opposite posture. We are proactive creatures that rather prevent rather than react. We rather exert control than let things go on by themselves. We rather be autonomous than depend on anyone else. We think that good intentions and the power necessary to actually exert such intentions are equally important. While the common heroic story will tell you that power is a consequence of your intentions,we aren't like that. We rather create our own power. That is why, I think, INTJs are often portrayed as villains.
0:00 Hahaha 0:27 Alright, lets get into it 0:47 *Not all INTJ’s are villains* , however, they share traits with villains, but also there is a misunderstanding of the INTJ personality type 1:22 Pattern Recognition, Future Driven, Goal Oriented, + Logical Approach = “Mastermind” 2:27 Introverted Intuition and exclusive focus on the goal 🥅 3:26 ESFP is seen as the “Hero” 3:56 Villain Ex. Virgil from _Devil May Cry_ 6:20 *Tertiary Introverted Feeling/Form* 6:53 ENFJ Villain: *Hades* 7:53 Interesting Discussion
As INTJ female, I see ESFP as a DOG,they say "a man's bestfriend". (No offense to those who think my opinion is bad)... Because they are Entertainer, they like to impress other people just to gain the recognition even though it makes them look funny or naive.
Couple weeks ago I was watching this video explaining the differences between a narcissist, a psychopath, and a sociopath. After watching it I told my gf how I kind of identify myself with these traits which scared her a little bit. Today I learned I'm an INTJ lmao.
As an INTJ myself when I set myself to smtg I will do anything to achieve it (but in a good way)N that was when for half yearly (smtg really shity happened in my life) n my grades went down to 60% N oh boi When I made up my mind that history will never repeat itself again, I MADE IT A REALITY who cares if I don't sleep, don't eat, I want that 90% n I get it, n yes I never got anything less then that again in my life :)
The concept of honor and some semblance of righteousness is the only reason why I have not become a villain. But I will admit I am largely tempted at times (especially lately) to just use ANY tools at my disposal to get what I want. Bc lately I’m getting tired of being “good” and not getting what I want. Bc I still get labeled as being in the wrong. Playing by arbitrary rules of society feels like living with one hand tied behind my back.
I know I’m like super late but I just wanted to write down my thoughts on this topic. I, as a young INTJ, have found that due to our small population, less than 1% of the world population, have trouble finding role models and those with similar mindsets. Even more so for those like me who is in several minority groups. This then snowballs into being social outcasts or getting harassed. I personally have to worry about confiding in others and then getting caught in a hate crime. I think that living like this, where your idealistic and more optimistic outlooks keep on getting destroyed make people that fit extremely well into the villain and antihero roles very well. Even within my own thoughts I have described myself as an antihero or just a side character. I just can’t see myself as a typical young, naive, and impressionable hero. It’s so pervasive a thought that I fine reading more ‘fun-based unrealistic fantasy’ that I used to like to be horrible because my thoughts would drift to how unrealistic and idealist it was. Even though I am a teenager around the age most ‘heroes’ would be. I’m sorry, that was a rant and a half but yeah. My view on why INTJs seem to be good villains is that you could easily imagine what someone with such single mindedness could do if life just kept on hurting them, or something like that. Again sorry for the rant, bye.
My friend once told me I’d be evil if I didn’t have such strong moral principles. Edit: also, I think one reason people think of INTJ’s as “spooky” is because Ni is so mysterious by its very nature. *I* barely understand it and it’s my lead function.
Thanos is a great INTJ villain because in his Ni world he believed he was doing the right thing. He sought to solve the problem of the universe. He would not stop at anything- “I am inevitable…” His flaw was that he stopped at his own narrow view of the solution to the problem. It’s so important to gather wisdom and listen to advice from others with different perspectives than us and actually be open to changing course.
As an INTJ I think the society would have easily turned me into a villain but my father and mother are the reason why may be I can help the world to become better
While you were explaining why the INTJ qualities are an excellent match for a fictional villain personality, all I could think of was Vergil. Thank you~
Usually as an intj, i can have all the moust dark thoughts in my mind, and know very clearly how could i can destroy someone if i want it. But my logic only agree with that if someone i love (included me) is in danger. The mind of intj understand 10 steps further, and the hate and destruction, is a lot of the times, an error. But... if my goal would to be bad... get off the way. Happily for the world, i just not born a psycho.
@@rithrius5384 Your inference is only partially correct. Yes, I'm a fan however to assume I did it for selfish reasons is incorrect. I wouldn't have suggested it if I didn't think it would be good fit for his channel. I disagree that it wouldn't be good content because it's a great match for Asura's passion of personality and fictional worlds. It could also be of interest to some beginner/intermediate subscribers to see fictional examples of the NTs and why they are considered xNTP or xNTJ. Death Note's prominent NTs would be great for this. More content suggestions can't hurt a small youtuber, and a video regarding Death Note would be a great choice for his channel in my opinion.
I think something that terrifies people is that we INTJs tend to understand ourselves well and show remarkable self-control/self-mastery. When you don’t even know who you are, yet you meet someone who seems to know who they are, it’s intimidating. If you are not master of yourself, yet meet someone who at least appears to be, people know that that’s powerful. If you can master your closest enemy, there’s very little you cannot do. Ironically, the INTJs with the greatest self-mastery are the ones least likely to actually do harm, because they know selfishness and evil will never make them happy, rather self-sacrifice makes them happy. The bewildering paradox is that INFJs with their awe-inspiring empathy can actually sometimes make the most heinous villains, and INTJs with their seeming self-centrism can make the most selfless heroes. It’s all in how you use the cognition you’ve got.
I'm not INTJ, but rather ISFP, but I find these discussions about INTJ interesting. We share all the same functions, just in a different order, and I think that's one reason why I sometimes sympathize with and always try to understand the so-called villains of a story. To me, a bad story has villains that come across as evil without any humanity whatsoever. Often I find that my favorite character in a book or movie is the 'misunderstood villain'. HAL 9000 from 2001: A Space Odyssey comes to mind. I also really liked Luv from Blade Runner 2049, Mystique from the early X-Men movies, and Emma Frost/White Queen from the X-Men comics. I like the heroic characters as well, mind you.
so many have cast me as the villain in their narrative. I don't strive to be the villain but, if you need me to be, I'm delighted to own the role. Just don't whine when your need is met.
Only thing that i dont like about myself as an intj is that its very hard for me to find girlfriend, cuz im very picky cuz i never live in the moment, i always see the future and i cant fall in love before i analyse person very well and it takes time and often i would see why in the future that person might not be for me, might annoy me, etc.. and i dont give that person a chance..
I think because I'm an INTJ, I see things more as they are, than what they are painted as, which gives me more empathy. Most people don't think about the animals being slaughtered for their food, but as an INTJ, it messes with my head because people just overlook billions of suffering animals.
Intresting perspective. I'am INTJ too, and I do understand that fish and chicken are farmed to be consumed. And human body evoluted in need of protein. Which is why I'am pescatarian, but I eat chicken. No other red or bird meat.
Reason that would make an intj a villain is if they get treated wrong, they might aim to take revenge. Vindictive nature and goal oriented ----depends, if the goal is something bad. The mental energy is so powerful and so active that the mind takes over the heart.
I'm an INTJ, and I have always found myself relating much more to the villains than the stereotypical good guys but I never actually thought fully about why that might be. Indeed, it's because their planning, thinking, and goal behaviors are things that I tend to value in myself. Obviously for different ends, but it's an interesting point of reference.
as an intj, the only think keeping me from going off the rails and on a murder spree is the fact that i’m sort of religious and am not tryna go to hell.
Same , also it's hard that we're always thinking about the future and when a goal needs immediate attention it's hard to achieve it with all the thinking about the future's going on .
Yes, everyone says of goals, but I do not have anything. Unachievables dropped, nothing stays. I know this world is wrong in so many ways, and I'm helpless/ hopeless to make it different. May be my environment is influential…
Imagine a world where you could have anything you want. Now make it reasonably obtainable aligned with how much you're willing so sacrifice and put your life towards that..
As an INTJ, I had to learn how to understand that not everyone has logic over emotion. So I had to teach myself how to respect other peoples feelings, even if they didn’t make sense. And now, I can sometimes find it logical, when someone is being completely emotional and ignoring Logic. And the reason why, is because I understand that we are all human. Even tho as an INTJ, we are sometimes not human.
We INTJs tend to prioritize our goals and dreams over everything.... we prefer rational and logical thought and an organized approach towards our goal so much so that we overlook feelings and basic human emotions, making us look like stone-hearted or emotionless villains
INTJs have that Judging function. We often judge we should better do the things we are trying to do (other things don't make good sense for us), but that function does prevent us from being extreme in a bad way. Also, since we avoid draining ourselves arguing (and impairing our vital judgment due to that mental exhaustion), it seems we are blind or just don't have feelings.
Hello fellow INTJ - thanks for this discussion! My fam always jokes about this with me. When I was younger I used to be offended but now I’ve learned to appreciate my ability to understand events - often much easier from the villain point of view. I agree there are more broadly two “types” of villains and INTJs do seem best suited for the behind the scenes/pulling the strings roles. Interesting stuff :)
the most famous, notorious INTJ and always try to take over the world and their future goals, always think he is the best and operate everything: professor James Moriaty. Even though I like Holmes, but Moriaty's persoanality and ability is no doubt of an INTJ
Thanh Trung Le yesssss thank you! As I said myself, Moriarty was the quintessential INTJ. Even Sherlock said pretty much he’s the mastermind itself. ( read the book). I think Sherlock was INTJ too. Glorious disdain and respect between them.
@@annsmith936 Sherlock and Moriaty always sacrifice his life to get what they want. But Moriaty did plan and prepare everything, every details. I read all stories about Sherlock Holmes and also The Moriaty's Papers. Moriaty planned everything before action, Holmes was more spontaneous sometimes and have to come up with solutions quickly from his knowledge. That means Holmes is more an introverted thinking while Moriaty is introverted intuition. For me Holmes is INTP while Moriaty is an INTJ actually
OMG this is sooo true. failure fuels the fire, so much that nothing nothing at all is worth it except for that 1 thing that has to be achieved at all cost. As if whole life depends on achieving it.
Reminds me of griffith from berserk except he’s an ENTJ. He quoted “I must keep winning to attain my dream. The same one they clung to, and risked their lives for. To realize my dream, I will perch on top of their corpses.. It is a blood-smeared dream, after all. I don't regret or feel guilty about it.. But to risk thousands of lives while never getting myself dirty. It's not a dream that can be so easily realized.”
Hi, AP. I'm glad you brought up this topic. I suspect that the introversion and the rarity of the type have something to do with why they're easily used as villains. From the POV of the other 15 types, folks probably haven't met enough INTJs IRL to get a handle on what goes on behind the eyes of the quiet INTJs. (Unfortunately, this also means that it's almost too easy for writers to use INTJ traits when trying to write a school shooter, a sexual predator, or a patient terrorist.) Whenever the hero detective walks into that secret room with the red string connecting all the photos on the wall, it doesn't just show that this fictional villain is organized and mentally isolated, it unfortunately reinforces the myth that real people who are dedicated, sharp, organized, and loners are automatically doomed to be criminally-deviant masterminds by default. (Thankfully, schoolteachers in RL tend to appreciate the NTs' studiousness for learning, and this helps.) In terms of moving a plot forward and having exciting to-and-fro conflict in a story, an INTJ villain does makes it easier for writers to have an antagonist who is both mysterious and believably able to have a back-up plan for nearly-every eventuality. In addition to other commenters' examples of James Bond villains and Professor Moriarty, the two examples which struck me as probable INTJs are Dr. Frankenstein from Mary Shelley's famous horror novel (especially in the first chapters before his creation is successfully reanimated) and Elphaba Thropp the green-skinned Wicked Witch of the West from Gregory Maguire's novel Wicked. (Heck, even the live musical version of her is likely an INTJ, and it contrasts powerfully alongside the ESFP portrayal of Glinda the Good Witch of the North.) Thanks to you again for bringing up this topic in your video.
Being a teen intj is the most lonely thing ever and if you are a misanthrope intj teen you have a real hard life ahead of you i have the matuarity and mental age of a 40 to 50 year old. It is lonely. Intj's can be both evil and good it is the reason of the drive of the selective attention.
Isolated though I may be, the sense of loneliness is foreign to me. External contact need not be of concern when I'm so deeply enthralled with my inner world.
@@wesnohathas1993 being enthraled by my own inner world is amazing. My intricate thoughts only lie with me, but the problem occurs when my human kicks in and wants social support. I agree with you completely but at the age i am physically i need some extarnal support which people try to give but give up..... so it is wonderfull in my inner world but still need someone to talk to need someone to share those ideas to.. Cant find that someone.
I see a lot of villains who seem similar to an ENTP. The joker for instance, and maybe rumplestilskin from shrek. They seem to be the chaotic and argumentative types of villains. It would be a neat series for you to compare old folk fairytales to the mbti types since there are a lot of archetypes in mythology and folklore.
I'd suggest the introverted ENTJ and Fe-subdued ISTP variants are pretty common 'INTJ-like' (dichotomies-wise) villians too! Then there are the mastermind-like INFJs (I'm thinking Sephiroth with the Ni-Ti inner reality and puppet-mastery).
I could be seen as a bit villainish because I don’t show any emotion and because of strong pattern recognition I tend to kind of know what people are going to do and can orchestrate the outcome I want. I’m just being efficient but ppl can feel intimidated I guess.
I am an INTJ and am not goal oriented. I have already set up my life in a good way and tend to keep it that way. I plan for the future to resolve any and all problems that may come up in whatever situation.
I'm not so lucky. I had my whole life planned out until i turned 20. Schizophrenia happened which cast my life into a constant detour to problems i wasn't prepared for. I'm now 38 years old and just received a clean bill of mental health by my highly trusted therapist. Sense then i simply blitzkrieg my goals into action to the point that my entire family are getting whiplash. I just can't wait any longer since i was forced to put my entire life on hold. Now nothing can stop me, not even myself.
Can someone please explain why ESFPs are seen as heros. In my eyes they're normally obnoxious and don't think ahead of the game but somehow still succeed in the end?
This is actually very interesting about the introverted feelings. The share house that i was staying got robbed 2 years ago, nobody was home and i was sleeping when the burglary broke into the house. I woke up when the burglars kicked my bedroom door open and i just sat there on my bed thinking what the hell just happened. They took all of my belongings and asked for money with knife pointing in front of my face but i just replied to them with my mother language which wasn't english to play dumb. After they realised they couldn't do anything to me because of "language barrier", they left. I called the police later and they interviewed me on what happened, including asking about my feelings but i just didn't really feel anything. i was shocked, that's for sure, but i didn't feel scared. when the whole thing happened, my brain just tried to think what to do which for some reasons, playing dumb and pretended that i couldn't speak english. i just blurted out to the police saying that i felt scared, blablabla, just because that's what a normal person would say and so the police wouldn't think that i am secretly a psycho.
Oh this explains so much. I used to think I was an INFP for the longest time. But I noticed as as I grew older I was closer to the INTJ/INFJ type. being stuck in a ti vs fi loop constantly. I guess I was working too much to notice it. But I do relate a lot to villains but that doesn't make me bad? I'm more of an anti hero if anything.
As an INTJ who always says, "I'm a very dark and evil person." This video just adds to that. I identify way too much to this video. I hate having feelings, I like to be numb and have no emotions. I'm also really insensitive depending on a matter. I swear, I have a heart. My best friend keeps me grounded and have feelings.
That Danganrompa t-shirt. Hmm. I wonder how people would type the villain there, because that one does measure on any scale of sanity anymore. If she even ever did.
Most hero types are ENFPs along with ESFPs, like with anime and cartoons and so on. ENFPs are chosen quite often usually as the hero because their dreams and imagination and idealism is appealing to people. But ESFPs get picked as well too. ENFPs and ESFPs are common for the hero type
"Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen......" The Emperor (aka Darth Sidious aka Sheev Palpatine) The Emperor in Star Wars is a great example of this. He thought that he had every contingency covered and had thought out his plan for ruling the galaxy all figured out. But, as Luke points out in Return of the Jedi, his overconfidence is his weakness. He didn't adjust his plans and re-evaluate them often enough in the face of unforeseen events. He also underestimated the ability of others to disrupt his plans. He certainly was able to apply force of will to a stupendous degree however. He was able to control people and events through sheer force of will (augmented by the Dark Side of the Force). It was only Luke's willingness to sacrifice himself as a distraction so that his friends could destroy the Second Death Star that eventually let the Rebels win the day.
Intj are normally seen as villains because they're not really in need of people's approval or company really, they see the world inwards and with less feelings attached, they're also more likely to see the world through a machisvelian paradigm, which makes people see them as less "good" Personally they make great villains and anti-heroes.
A good INTJ villain quote comes from Viren in the dragon prince. "You're mistaken; i'm a pragmatist" And as far as things go, he is pragmatic. He finds logical, somewhat reasonable solutions to the obstacles he faces. And in his head he is doing the right thing for the good of humankind.
We can't easily conclude that a plan to secretly prepare something is necessarily from a morally wrong intention. Rather, the intention may be to do good for society. However, secretly preparing for good deeds is hard to give people a big impact or impression compared to bad deeds. I think that's why many fictions describe INTJ as a villain. In other words, a unique INTJ character can be considered a good material for the creator of the fiction to build a large-scale story.
INTJ is villain in stories written by Fe-Ti writers. Heroes in this stories are not ESFPs. Villains, or bad people in this stories often have scar on face, wear a mask, or their face is burned, or something, to symbolize, that they don't match their emotions with hero. Or it is simply a monster. Story is centered on making friends, on which you can rely on. That is Star Wars (INTJ Palpatine, ISFP Darth Vader), Hobbit and Lord of the Rings (INTJ Smaug and Sauron). INTJ is usually trying to stop the war, which are those people (usually Fe-Ti) causing. Which is, how are stories made from INTJ perspective. They oftentimes make friends with enemies/monsters. That is How to train your dragon (INTJ Hiccup, make friends with dragons), Frozen (INTJ Elsa, makes friends with forest people, elements), Captain Marvel (INTJ Carol Danvers, makes friends with Skrull). Which probably means, that Palpatine was actually trying to bring peace, and order to the galaxy (which he did), and Sauron tried to make orcs equal to other middle-earth races.
“Try and stop me” the international motto of INTJs everywhere
"If an INTJ gets to that point where they can't get what they need in life, if they can't get to their envisioned idea, they're eventually going to make so many sacrifices that they become a villain in their own life." That's too accurate.
This is true. The only thing standing between INTJ and being a villain is their goal in life
Iam in at that state. ☠️
I…i always had the thought if I can’t achieve what i want I won’t make anyone do 💀 which i always snap myself out of it because i want to be kind
True
I feel like Walter White exemplifies this so well. He’s satisfied being a chemistry teacher until he is diagnosed with cancer and progressively becomes more involved in the meth trade. He suddenly craves more and more power; he wants to manage an empire. He begins to sacrifice everything for his goals, disregarding the affects they have on his family and friends. By the end, everyone he cared about or worked with either hates him or is dead.
An INTJ could be a hero or a villain. It depends on what's driving them.
Is an INTJ more likely to be vindictive or obsess over revenge or their distorted view of justice?
@@scouttrooperhh-1487 not necessarily revenge executed by us, more revenge executed by life. I personally just disappear and move on, life will do its own thing.
Jørgen Kraig I don’t think there’s a vindictive or vengeful bone in my INTJ body. If I can’t change something after exhaustive effort, I’ll move on.
A villain isn’t always seeing that they’re being vengeful. They can be seeking justice or what they perceive to be justice, which would be differing from the masses view of justice, which is why he’s an INTJ. He’s not like the others.
Hero and villain both are just label, i only care what benefits me the most with method that at least reach at socially acceptable level
I think it's interesting how Batman is often typed as an INTJ.
@@rithrius5384 I don't necessarily agree, because Fi child means he holds himself up to his own moral ideal, and killing someone when it is not necessary would mean that his ideals are not good, and are possibly evil.
In terms of practicality, being a comic book hero, he has to at least try to take villains alive, otherwise Batman wouldn't be the good guy.
I don't think Batman is a perfect match for the INTJ type, but it would explain some of his deficits or quirks, such as the fact that he's an Introverted eccentric billionaire who dislikes being in large groups of people.
He prefers to be alone. He puts intimate relations on the back burner. He's highly selective about who he trusts. He has a knack for pattern recognition, and exercises a "mind over matter" approach.
Batman is ENTJ Bruce Wayne is INTJ...
Catwoman did not understand this and that is why she preferred Batman to Bruce Wayne.
Best Batman, Michael Keaton. don't argue with me or I will take over your world...
meow...
@@rithrius5384 I disagree. I think an INTJ wouldn't betray his principles, even for achieving a goal.
Batman is someone who changed his natural personality ( ego) onto his superego or subconscious early in his life, after the accident with his parents. I think he’s struggling with his true self big time. That’s why we can’t pinpoint him.
I don’t like him and his development of the character at all. But I’m sure there will be a movie that goes deeper into it soon. I mean come on, it’s a market gap.
ESFP
@@annsmith936 You watched the wrong Batman...lol
I grew up with the tv show Batman. This show had meaning, morals, and lessons. And it was fun!
Watch a few of the Adam West Burt Ward episodes, try where they walk up the side of the buildings
and famous people open their windows to see Batman and Robin climbing past their lofty intentions.
Seriously, this show is funny and wonderful and so far from Dark that its Batman lite.
And very much worth the watch to get a different perspective on Batman.
And Julie Newmar is the only Catwoman, meow...I can still do the Eartha Kitt growl, that lesson got me
grounded.
If that many villains were INTJ, there would be fewer heroes to stop them.
According to the statistics INTJ is 2% of total population
@@amandamc1234 2/100 people is still appt (approx. 80M).
We would be 4 parallel universes ahead of them
Welcome to reality, there are no heroes.
@@amandamc1234 I thought that was 2% of the introverts.
As an INTJ, I can confidently say that the only thing keeping me from becoming a villain is my family. Without them to ground me in reality I would have no empathy for anyone.
Same, most importantly for me is my son, he's the only person who can turn me into mush. Being so nonchalant about others is definitely something Im working on. I wanna stay in touch eith my human side, even if feelings are not my dominant function.
Realest thing ever
I agree 100 percent with that. It’s not that I don’t necessarily want to empathize with other people, but I lack the internal tools to analyze them. It’s something I was able to build on, due to the presence of my family. Without them, I wouldn’t regard anyone at all, because at times I still don’t understand certain emotional responses. With age it’s becoming easier, but it’ll always be something I’ll never fully understand. It’s like being blind and being able to navigate in the world of the seeing and yet you’ll still never have sight.
@@Raphsophomes umm... no
INTJs have Fe trickster. We aren't repressed. We literally have NO empathy whatsoever in normal situations. Please respect that 13% of ALL HUMANS have Fe trickster. Stop discriminating against us. We aren't broken. We are normal. If you think otherwise you are part of the problem.
@@jacobwiren8142 depends on your thinking & feeling score, me almost balance between T & F, 50% plus for T, 40% plus for F.
My Introvert, Intuitive & Judging score all almost 90% plus.
"Single minded focus". Completely spot on. Got a goal, its a strong one, willing to do what it takes to meet it, obsess until complete. Move on to next goal. Repeat.
That’s exactly how my mind works.
Well, that explains why I related to villains so much . _ .
Lelouch in Code Geass
Same
in all the disney movies i watched as a kid i always related most to the villans
I relate to villains.
Others called me a villain.
I’m starting to feel like a villain.
But I am just an INTJ
I must say...I have related to villains more. Especially when I’m mad.
I think that we lable INTJs as villains because we are more mysterious. People are afraid of the unknown.
Yes sir
henrik no shit sherlock.
Also because we sometimes break the rules and sometimes even justify them 😂😂😂
@@abhisheksunkale6672 it’s about the outcome.
the less people know the better, more power to us!
Jane Austen, who was an INTJ, wrote a story about an INTJ man who everybody types as villain at the very start of the novel, because he's rich and doesn't care about the feelings of people who is not in his inner circle. It happens also that he has very loyal friends, his family and servants adore him, an ultimately he learns that love must be earned, and he fixes all he can in order to make his beloved happy. I think Austen portrayed and INTJ with more depth and layers than the stereotype of Intj=evil because she knew what she was talking about.
I adore Darcy because in reading about him I wasn’t crushing on him, but feeling a sense of kinship, feeling understood. I know this person … I know why he is like this.
Now, I know why I'm always so insensitive when bad things happen. I tend to picture any kind of situation so vividly that almost nothing surprises me anymore.
Interesting videos, anyway. Good job.
This happens when my grandmother died, thought about how she could die so many times when it really happened I felt close to nothing
@@orion4403 bruh... same 😳 I thought it's just me, I was seriously thinking that there's something wrong with me cuz I didn't feel anything when my grandma died (she died 10 days ago from cancer which we discovered about 8-9 months ago before her death so I had plenty of time to picture any possible outcome). Honestly your comment brought me much needed relief 😄
@@orion4403 when I was really little I reacted a lot but basically same. It feels like I'm just feel the pressure of the emotions and they then disapate because I've already dealt with them so many times.
My brother would always complain that I'm too boring. He gets annoyed that I don't react to things the way he expects me to like whenever a serious situation comes up, I'm too calm as if I don't care. I remember my mom telling me that I act as if I'm in my own little world just sitting on the side without care of what's happening around me. I really wanna tell them that I DO care, in fact I care more than anyone to the point that I just already thought of any possible scenarios so many times inside my head that it doesn't faze me anymore when it actually happens.
It's kind of lonely being an INTJ young teen, the only people with my maturity level and sense of purpose are 40 year olds.
Yes
I think anything has two side
One good one bad
The bad side of getting wiser sooner is to be lonelier
And it seems that lots of time we gotta pay for it
I used to complain about it
But not anymore
Cause it's the cost we should pay
And to be honest, we like to be alone too! I personally love the times I'm alone ! But I didn't mean to be 100 percent alone
As a 16 year old, female INTJ, I agree
lol only an immature person would think that statement even makes sense
15 year old guy INTJ, me too bro...
Yup. Thought it would improve in my 30s... but now I relate to 50-60 year olds.
As an INTJ myself, I can feel potential for darkness and lightness inside me, I know I can do both really well. I could either be the one to bring chaos or the one to solve it (ohhhh, that sounds really good, I may add it to a story I’m writing)
Fax bro 😂 u really described it
You slowly realize you weren't meant to save the world, you were meant to destroy it
the power to unleash chaos or bring order to it.
You must realize your potential for destruction in order to find meaning
We quietly go about our business, laying low and moving in the shadows. People can see we're working on something, but for some reason we don't share it. Clearly, we're hiding something.
In reality, we just like peace and quiet to focus. We're prone to sensory overload and too much attention can induce it.
The video starts: you with the hood down
Me: Ooh, so this is what an INTJ looks like when he's in the "villain mood"..
Do you know how hard it is to find a normal sized hoodie with a big hood. Isn't easy filling out a villain's wardrobe.
Thanks for watching!
@@AsuraPsych 😂😂😂 I get it bro, we villains really have a hard time finding our type of stuff, like I always wanted a sort of black cape with a big hood but apparently they dont make that kind of villainy looking stuff 😁😁
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@@rithrius5384 legit, man! That's us INTJs in our homes 24/7
Rithrius 😂😂👍
Not gonna lie I chuckled a little seeing him in that hoodie. 😂
Cant be a truly great villain without an oversized hood Haha. Thanks for watching!
A word of advice from a fellow INTJ to the younger ones. Start ur self awareness journey ASAP, and keep in mind that love is a spectrum. Romantic love is a dust cloud that u walk thru, breathe in, get high off of for a while, then when u find the meaning and logic of it, u move on like closing a book or changing ur underwear. Stop feeling sorry for urself and cut that longing feeling of wanting to merge with others totally so that someone understands u (unless it's a plan to get to another step). Noone will ever truly understand u for realsies, and THAT is ur superpower. That's what makes u be able to move behind the veil. If u do find someone, make sure they work well with ur values and lifestyle and keep ur deepest thoughts to urself and God. Smart ppl who may be like u will pay attention to ur actions and wonder 'why' and gravitate towards u naturally. Study game theory and change management, apply to life. Rinse, Repeat and Improve. Focus on stability and growth. Money is a tool, Intentions can be the root of evil, depends. U are to operate like the devil without the 'evil'. Hope this helps.🤗
u really hit the nail in the head
I'm an INTJ and I can say that INTJs can be either a villian or a hero according to their will.
As an intj we are just very very motivated people but we are most likely not going to not want to become a villain. And I’m an autistic intj so I can become VERY very GOAL oriented and forget about feeling but stuff try and understand feelings. And I’m glad I have a very sensitive opposite they are a intp. And I’m also very glad I have a very sensitive best friend infp. And I agree 5:52 I get told this so much as a small person I get very underestimated so much in wrestling and I’m going to join football as a 99 pound 5’2 person who can barely put on weight but that doesn’t stop me doing what I love. This really explains a lot of things honestly. Good video.
“The more an INTJ fails to meet their goals, the more they’re willing to sacrifice.”
So that’s why Elon Musk was willing to keep blowing up million dollar rockets?
@Tanum Tasdfy *intj
Spot on 😂
I think we INTJ are often portrayed as villains because we have very detached attitude that is concerned with autonomy and effectiveness first.
Heroic journeys are stories told often to teach people to respect one another and appreciate one another. Therefore the hero learns to rely on others and to let go of control, to embrace things as they are, live and let live, and taking action now. A bit of a reactive posture. The hero is spontaneous.
We have the opposite posture. We are proactive creatures that rather prevent rather than react. We rather exert control than let things go on by themselves. We rather be autonomous than depend on anyone else.
We think that good intentions and the power necessary to actually exert such intentions are equally important. While the common heroic story will tell you that power is a consequence of your intentions,we aren't like that. We rather create our own power.
That is why, I think, INTJs are often portrayed as villains.
Logically speaking prevention is better than cure after all.
Loved.." if they fail they double their efforts."
0:00 Hahaha
0:27 Alright, lets get into it
0:47 *Not all INTJ’s are villains* , however, they share traits with villains, but also there is a misunderstanding of the INTJ personality type
1:22 Pattern Recognition, Future Driven, Goal Oriented,
+ Logical Approach
= “Mastermind”
2:27 Introverted Intuition and exclusive focus on the goal 🥅
3:26 ESFP is seen as the “Hero”
3:56 Villain Ex. Virgil from _Devil May Cry_
6:20 *Tertiary Introverted Feeling/Form*
6:53 ENFJ Villain: *Hades*
7:53 Interesting Discussion
@tutu ru exact thing I thought!
Thank you for this summary it is convenient and clarifying.
As INTJ female, I see ESFP as a DOG,they say "a man's bestfriend". (No offense to those who think my opinion is bad)... Because they are Entertainer, they like to impress other people just to gain the recognition even though it makes them look funny or naive.
You know that an INTJ watch a video when they need this summary 😁🙋🏻♀️
Ty
Couple weeks ago I was watching this video explaining the differences between a narcissist, a psychopath, and a sociopath. After watching it I told my gf how I kind of identify myself with these traits which scared her a little bit. Today I learned I'm an INTJ lmao.
the7th son same
You won't like me when I'm mad. I back up my rage with networking and... "technical solutions".
I have long ago stopped giving a damn if people think I am evil. I consider most of them to be idiots, so we are even.
I am an INTJ dubstep artist, and these videos help me understand myself and inspire me greatly thank you
As an INTJ myself when I set myself to smtg I will do anything to achieve it (but in a good way)N that was when for half yearly (smtg really shity happened in my life) n my grades went down to 60%
N oh boi
When I made up my mind that history will never repeat itself again, I MADE IT A REALITY
who cares if I don't sleep, don't eat, I want that 90% n I get it, n yes I never got anything less then that again in my life :)
The concept of honor and some semblance of righteousness is the only reason why I have not become a villain. But I will admit I am largely tempted at times (especially lately) to just use ANY tools at my disposal to get what I want. Bc lately I’m getting tired of being “good” and not getting what I want. Bc I still get labeled as being in the wrong. Playing by arbitrary rules of society feels like living with one hand tied behind my back.
I know I’m like super late but I just wanted to write down my thoughts on this topic.
I, as a young INTJ, have found that due to our small population, less than 1% of the world population, have trouble finding role models and those with similar mindsets. Even more so for those like me who is in several minority groups.
This then snowballs into being social outcasts or getting harassed. I personally have to worry about confiding in others and then getting caught in a hate crime.
I think that living like this, where your idealistic and more optimistic outlooks keep on getting destroyed make people that fit extremely well into the villain and antihero roles very well.
Even within my own thoughts I have described myself as an antihero or just a side character. I just can’t see myself as a typical young, naive, and impressionable hero. It’s so pervasive a thought that I fine reading more ‘fun-based unrealistic fantasy’ that I used to like to be horrible because my thoughts would drift to how unrealistic and idealist it was. Even though I am a teenager around the age most ‘heroes’ would be.
I’m sorry, that was a rant and a half but yeah. My view on why INTJs seem to be good villains is that you could easily imagine what someone with such single mindedness could do if life just kept on hurting them, or something like that. Again sorry for the rant, bye.
Lol, what are you talking about. There are loads of role models as INTJs. Look at Jay Z, Elon Musk or Mark Zuckerberg for example.
Well done well done 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 especially the stops at nothing to reach goals and makes sacrifices.
My friend once told me I’d be evil if I didn’t have such strong moral principles.
Edit: also, I think one reason people think of INTJ’s as “spooky” is because Ni is so mysterious by its very nature. *I* barely understand it and it’s my lead function.
Thanos is a great INTJ villain because in his Ni world he believed he was doing the right thing. He sought to solve the problem of the universe. He would not stop at anything- “I am inevitable…”
His flaw was that he stopped at his own narrow view of the solution to the problem.
It’s so important to gather wisdom and listen to advice from others with different perspectives than us and actually be open to changing course.
"Working under the radar to obtain their goal" resonated to me since its literally what I am going through right now.
As an INTJ I think the society would have easily turned me into a villain but my father and mother are the reason why may be I can help the world to become better
While you were explaining why the INTJ qualities are an excellent match for a fictional villain personality, all I could think of was Vergil. Thank you~
And, to be fair, Vergil didn't know Nero was his son when he cut off his arm.
Usually as an intj, i can have all the moust dark thoughts in my mind, and know very clearly how could i can destroy someone if i want it. But my logic only agree with that if someone i love (included me) is in danger.
The mind of intj understand 10 steps further, and the hate and destruction, is a lot of the times, an error. But... if my goal would to be bad... get off the way.
Happily for the world, i just not born a psycho.
I always liked the saying...if there's a will there's a way!
Video suggestion: Death Note characters representing the NT family.
L is an INTP
Light is an INTJ
There's your video. Not much else to discuss.
There's plenty to discuss. Don't be a Debbie downer
@@rithrius5384 Your inference is only partially correct. Yes, I'm a fan however to assume I did it for selfish reasons is incorrect. I wouldn't have suggested it if I didn't think it would be good fit for his channel.
I disagree that it wouldn't be good content because it's a great match for Asura's passion of personality and fictional worlds. It could also be of interest to some beginner/intermediate subscribers to see fictional examples of the NTs and why they are considered xNTP or xNTJ. Death Note's prominent NTs would be great for this.
More content suggestions can't hurt a small youtuber, and a video regarding Death Note would be a great choice for his channel in my opinion.
That would be great! Cuz I'm also a fan of death note especially L
Rithrius Light is ENTJ. If you disagree, it only proves that there IS something to discuss.
Yes Asura when you give the example i was thinking on Vergil too. He is an amazing INTJ.
Hes a very cool character, one of my favorites. Thanks for watching!
Only two minutes in and this is one of the BEST if not the best INTJ video I've heard!!!! #subscribed
I think something that terrifies people is that we INTJs tend to understand ourselves well and show remarkable self-control/self-mastery. When you don’t even know who you are, yet you meet someone who seems to know who they are, it’s intimidating. If you are not master of yourself, yet meet someone who at least appears to be, people know that that’s powerful. If you can master your closest enemy, there’s very little you cannot do. Ironically, the INTJs with the greatest self-mastery are the ones least likely to actually do harm, because they know selfishness and evil will never make them happy, rather self-sacrifice makes them happy.
The bewildering paradox is that INFJs with their awe-inspiring empathy can actually sometimes make the most heinous villains, and INTJs with their seeming self-centrism can make the most selfless heroes. It’s all in how you use the cognition you’ve got.
I'm not INTJ, but rather ISFP, but I find these discussions about INTJ interesting. We share all the same functions, just in a different order, and I think that's one reason why I sometimes sympathize with and always try to understand the so-called villains of a story. To me, a bad story has villains that come across as evil without any humanity whatsoever. Often I find that my favorite character in a book or movie is the 'misunderstood villain'. HAL 9000 from 2001: A Space Odyssey comes to mind. I also really liked Luv from Blade Runner 2049, Mystique from the early X-Men movies, and Emma Frost/White Queen from the X-Men comics. I like the heroic characters as well, mind you.
so many have cast me as the villain in their narrative. I don't strive to be the villain but, if you need me to be, I'm delighted to own the role. Just don't whine when your need is met.
Only thing that i dont like about myself as an intj is that its very hard for me to find girlfriend, cuz im very picky cuz i never live in the moment, i always see the future and i cant fall in love before i analyse person very well and it takes time and often i would see why in the future that person might not be for me, might annoy me, etc.. and i dont give that person a chance..
You have done well young Asura...your training is almost complete.
I think because I'm an INTJ, I see things more as they are, than what they are painted as, which gives me more empathy. Most people don't think about the animals being slaughtered for their food, but as an INTJ, it messes with my head because people just overlook billions of suffering animals.
Intresting perspective.
I'am INTJ too, and I do understand that fish and chicken are farmed to be consumed. And human body evoluted in need of protein. Which is why I'am pescatarian, but I eat chicken. No other red or bird meat.
Reason that would make an intj a villain is if they get treated wrong, they might aim to take revenge. Vindictive nature and goal oriented ----depends, if the goal is something bad. The mental energy is so powerful and so active that the mind takes over the heart.
I'm an INTJ, and I have always found myself relating much more to the villains than the stereotypical good guys but I never actually thought fully about why that might be. Indeed, it's because their planning, thinking, and goal behaviors are things that I tend to value in myself. Obviously for different ends, but it's an interesting point of reference.
Nice, monokuma sweater!
as an intj, the only think keeping me from going off the rails and on a murder spree is the fact that i’m sort of religious and am not tryna go to hell.
I have no goal at the moment and it's killing me. I feel so stuck not knowing what to do.
Same , also it's hard that we're always thinking about the future and when a goal needs immediate attention it's hard to achieve it with all the thinking about the future's going on .
Yes, everyone says of goals, but I do not have anything. Unachievables dropped, nothing stays.
I know this world is wrong in so many ways, and I'm helpless/ hopeless to make it different.
May be my environment is influential…
Get more money/Power ...it always pays off and keep us busy. Find high profile careers and set strategies to reach that level.
take over the world?
Imagine a world where you could have anything you want. Now make it reasonably obtainable aligned with how much you're willing so sacrifice and put your life towards that..
As an INTJ, I had to learn how to understand that not everyone has logic over emotion. So I had to teach myself how to respect other peoples feelings, even if they didn’t make sense. And now, I can sometimes find it logical, when someone is being completely emotional and ignoring Logic. And the reason why, is because I understand that we are all human. Even tho as an INTJ, we are sometimes not human.
We INTJs tend to prioritize our goals and dreams over everything.... we prefer rational and logical thought and an organized approach towards our goal so much so that we overlook feelings and basic human emotions, making us look like stone-hearted or emotionless villains
"MUHUHAHAHA!" is my set ring tone; interpret as you will.
INTJs have that Judging function. We often judge we should better do the things we are trying to do (other things don't make good sense for us), but that function does prevent us from being extreme in a bad way.
Also, since we avoid draining ourselves arguing (and impairing our vital judgment due to that mental exhaustion), it seems we are blind or just don't have feelings.
Hello fellow INTJ - thanks for this discussion! My fam always jokes about this with me. When I was younger I used to be offended but now I’ve learned to appreciate my ability to understand events - often much easier from the villain point of view. I agree there are more broadly two “types” of villains and INTJs do seem best suited for the behind the scenes/pulling the strings roles. Interesting stuff :)
New subscriber. Thsi summed me up to a TEE. Loved this video.
the most famous, notorious INTJ and always try to take over the world and their future goals, always think he is the best and operate everything: professor James Moriaty. Even though I like Holmes, but Moriaty's persoanality and ability is no doubt of an INTJ
Thanh Trung Le yesssss thank you! As I said myself, Moriarty was the quintessential INTJ. Even Sherlock said pretty much he’s the mastermind itself. ( read the book).
I think Sherlock was INTJ too.
Glorious disdain and respect between them.
@@annsmith936 Sherlock and Moriaty always sacrifice his life to get what they want. But Moriaty did plan and prepare everything, every details. I read all stories about Sherlock Holmes and also The Moriaty's Papers. Moriaty planned everything before action, Holmes was more spontaneous sometimes and have to come up with solutions quickly from his knowledge. That means Holmes is more an introverted thinking while Moriaty is introverted intuition. For me Holmes is INTP while Moriaty is an INTJ actually
Yes.
There is always a way to get what we want.
And a way to get something beneficial out of even the most dire of circumstances.
OMG this is sooo true. failure fuels the fire, so much that nothing nothing at all is worth it except for that 1 thing that has to be achieved at all cost. As if whole life depends on achieving it.
Reminds me of griffith from berserk except he’s an ENTJ. He quoted “I must keep winning to attain my dream. The same one they clung to, and risked their lives for. To realize my dream, I will perch on top of their corpses.. It is a blood-smeared dream, after all. I don't regret or feel guilty about it.. But to risk thousands of lives while never getting myself dirty. It's not a dream that can be so easily realized.”
I find it interesting that growing up I always had a liking for alot of villains.. and. Now I find out I'm a intj (Architect)
Hi, AP. I'm glad you brought up this topic. I suspect that the introversion and the rarity of the type have something to do with why they're easily used as villains. From the POV of the other 15 types, folks probably haven't met enough INTJs IRL to get a handle on what goes on behind the eyes of the quiet INTJs. (Unfortunately, this also means that it's almost too easy for writers to use INTJ traits when trying to write a school shooter, a sexual predator, or a patient terrorist.)
Whenever the hero detective walks into that secret room with the red string connecting all the photos on the wall, it doesn't just show that this fictional villain is organized and mentally isolated, it unfortunately reinforces the myth that real people who are dedicated, sharp, organized, and loners are automatically doomed to be criminally-deviant masterminds by default. (Thankfully, schoolteachers in RL tend to appreciate the NTs' studiousness for learning, and this helps.)
In terms of moving a plot forward and having exciting to-and-fro conflict in a story, an INTJ villain does makes it easier for writers to have an antagonist who is both mysterious and believably able to have a back-up plan for nearly-every eventuality.
In addition to other commenters' examples of James Bond villains and Professor Moriarty, the two examples which struck me as probable INTJs are Dr. Frankenstein from Mary Shelley's famous horror novel (especially in the first chapters before his creation is successfully reanimated) and Elphaba Thropp the green-skinned Wicked Witch of the West from Gregory Maguire's novel Wicked. (Heck, even the live musical version of her is likely an INTJ, and it contrasts powerfully alongside the ESFP portrayal of Glinda the Good Witch of the North.)
Thanks to you again for bringing up this topic in your video.
Being a teen intj is the most lonely thing ever and if you are a misanthrope intj teen you have a real hard life ahead of you i have the matuarity and mental age of a 40 to 50 year old. It is lonely.
Intj's can be both evil and good it is the reason of the drive of the selective attention.
Isolated though I may be, the sense of loneliness is foreign to me.
External contact need not be of concern when I'm so deeply enthralled with my inner world.
@@wesnohathas1993 being enthraled by my own inner world is amazing. My intricate thoughts only lie with me, but the problem occurs when my human kicks in and wants social support.
I agree with you completely but at the age i am physically i need some extarnal support which people try to give but give up..... so it is wonderfull in my inner world but still need someone to talk to need someone to share those ideas to..
Cant find that someone.
Any other INTJ's here smile threateningly at people when they really piss you off? I'd imagine it doesn't help our villain image...
You are so intelligent I love it! Great video!
Im an INTJ and I say if I ever go full blown super villain, blame my dumass classmates, they made me like this
I see a lot of villains who seem similar to an ENTP. The joker for instance, and maybe rumplestilskin from shrek. They seem to be the chaotic and argumentative types of villains. It would be a neat series for you to compare old folk fairytales to the mbti types since there are a lot of archetypes in mythology and folklore.
Heard Magneto was intj too. I liked him and I respected his pov
I'd suggest the introverted ENTJ and Fe-subdued ISTP variants are pretty common 'INTJ-like' (dichotomies-wise) villians too!
Then there are the mastermind-like INFJs (I'm thinking Sephiroth with the Ni-Ti inner reality and puppet-mastery).
Cognitive Personality Theory I’m sorry but what? Would be nice if you explained it bit better for us non-experts.
I could be seen as a bit villainish because I don’t show any emotion and because of strong pattern recognition I tend to kind of know what people are going to do and can orchestrate the outcome I want. I’m just being efficient but ppl can feel intimidated I guess.
I am an INTJ and am not goal oriented. I have already set up my life in a good way and tend to keep it that way. I plan for the future to resolve any and all problems that may come up in whatever situation.
I'm not so lucky. I had my whole life planned out until i turned 20. Schizophrenia happened which cast my life into a constant detour to problems i wasn't prepared for. I'm now 38 years old and just received a clean bill of mental health by my highly trusted therapist. Sense then i simply blitzkrieg my goals into action to the point that my entire family are getting whiplash. I just can't wait any longer since i was forced to put my entire life on hold. Now nothing can stop me, not even myself.
This was incredible! Makes so much sense. Thank you!
Very true.Everything I dreamed of become abstract with long term goals or plans.Sometimes,I have to be cool or everything is messed up the plan.
Can someone please explain why ESFPs are seen as heros. In my eyes they're normally obnoxious and don't think ahead of the game but somehow still succeed in the end?
As a INTJ I sometimes forget to eat when I am studying for an exam…. Yeah
This is actually very interesting about the introverted feelings. The share house that i was staying got robbed 2 years ago, nobody was home and i was sleeping when the burglary broke into the house. I woke up when the burglars kicked my bedroom door open and i just sat there on my bed thinking what the hell just happened. They took all of my belongings and asked for money with knife pointing in front of my face but i just replied to them with my mother language which wasn't english to play dumb. After they realised they couldn't do anything to me because of "language barrier", they left. I called the police later and they interviewed me on what happened, including asking about my feelings but i just didn't really feel anything. i was shocked, that's for sure, but i didn't feel scared. when the whole thing happened, my brain just tried to think what to do which for some reasons, playing dumb and pretended that i couldn't speak english. i just blurted out to the police saying that i felt scared, blablabla, just because that's what a normal person would say and so the police wouldn't think that i am secretly a psycho.
Anita Hailey interesting. I would probably would have done the same thing
Oh this explains so much. I used to think I was an INFP for the longest time. But I noticed as as I grew older I was closer to the INTJ/INFJ type. being stuck in a ti vs fi loop constantly.
I guess I was working too much to notice it. But I do relate a lot to villains but that doesn't make me bad? I'm more of an anti hero if anything.
As an INTJ who always says, "I'm a very dark and evil person."
This video just adds to that. I identify way too much to this video.
I hate having feelings, I like to be numb and have no emotions. I'm also really insensitive depending on a matter. I swear, I have a heart. My best friend keeps me grounded and have feelings.
wow, so edgy
That Danganrompa t-shirt. Hmm. I wonder how people would type the villain there, because that one does measure on any scale of sanity anymore. If she even ever did.
Most hero types are ENFPs along with ESFPs, like with anime and cartoons and so on. ENFPs are chosen quite often usually as the hero because their dreams and imagination and idealism is appealing to people. But ESFPs get picked as well too. ENFPs and ESFPs are common for the hero type
"Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen......" The Emperor (aka Darth Sidious aka Sheev Palpatine)
The Emperor in Star Wars is a great example of this. He thought that he had every contingency covered and had thought out his plan for ruling the galaxy all figured out. But, as Luke points out in Return of the Jedi, his overconfidence is his weakness. He didn't adjust his plans and re-evaluate them often enough in the face of unforeseen events. He also underestimated the ability of others to disrupt his plans. He certainly was able to apply force of will to a stupendous degree however. He was able to control people and events through sheer force of will (augmented by the Dark Side of the Force). It was only Luke's willingness to sacrifice himself as a distraction so that his friends could destroy the Second Death Star that eventually let the Rebels win the day.
Intj are normally seen as villains because they're not really in need of people's approval or company really, they see the world inwards and with less feelings attached, they're also more likely to see the world through a machisvelian paradigm, which makes people see them as less "good"
Personally they make great villains and anti-heroes.
5:15 This is the most Intuitively touching statement.
A good INTJ villain quote comes from Viren in the dragon prince.
"You're mistaken; i'm a pragmatist"
And as far as things go, he is pragmatic. He finds logical, somewhat reasonable solutions to the obstacles he faces.
And in his head he is doing the right thing for the good of humankind.
....and when the INTJ has nothing further to loose, his goal becomes self destruction with maximized casualties.
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Hug an INTJ and save the universe
When you started to talk about Vergil as an INTJ... now I’m a little motivated
Love the hoodie!!!
The brooding Dr. Doom comes to mind.
Dr. Doom could very well be an INTJ, didn't even think about that. Thanks for watching!
IMHO not likely since he gets over emotional when comparing himself to Reed Richard...
ENTJ can make a good puppet for the INTJ who is smartly working behind the scenes.
You don't grab power! You accumulate it. - Grand Negas Zek
We can't easily conclude that a plan to secretly prepare something is necessarily from a morally wrong intention. Rather, the intention may be to do good for society. However, secretly preparing for good deeds is hard to give people a big impact or impression compared to bad deeds. I think that's why many fictions describe INTJ as a villain. In other words, a unique INTJ character can be considered a good material for the creator of the fiction to build a large-scale story.
I loved the intro!
I ALWAYS go after what I want... and I can’t stop-won’t stop... until I get it ... bet that ❤️
INTJ is villain in stories written by Fe-Ti writers. Heroes in this stories are not ESFPs. Villains, or bad people in this stories often have scar on face, wear a mask, or their face is burned, or something, to symbolize, that they don't match their emotions with hero. Or it is simply a monster. Story is centered on making friends, on which you can rely on. That is Star Wars (INTJ Palpatine, ISFP Darth Vader), Hobbit and Lord of the Rings (INTJ Smaug and Sauron). INTJ is usually trying to stop the war, which are those people (usually Fe-Ti) causing. Which is, how are stories made from INTJ perspective. They oftentimes make friends with enemies/monsters. That is How to train your dragon (INTJ Hiccup, make friends with dragons), Frozen (INTJ Elsa, makes friends with forest people, elements), Captain Marvel (INTJ Carol Danvers, makes friends with Skrull). Which probably means, that Palpatine was actually trying to bring peace, and order to the galaxy (which he did), and Sauron tried to make orcs equal to other middle-earth races.
It really depends on what you are focused at... For me, the world needs to be fixed for good, so I would become a hero instead of a villain
INFJ-Awesome video. Very informative.Thank you
Interestingly enough, I've always related more to sidekick characters than villains despite being INTJ.