Just How Good Is Crimil's Dagger Now in The Final Shape?
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- Опубліковано 3 лип 2024
- Crimil's Dagger is back in Destiny 2 Iron Banner in The Final Shape, but just how good is this legendary hand cannon blast from the past? What are the god rolls? Here's my full legendary PVP review.
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Definitely, I love content creators who make un-biased videos. NO to click-bait.
Thanks for these types of content!
I found it bit od that there are no iron banner perks on the gun, like iron grip etc.
Really dumb, yeah. Especially since they’re enhanced now. I feel like Bungo is afraid of Hand cannons besides 180’s.
No doubt, they really butchered the release of this. They should have made it's stats only slightly worse than Igneous. Igneous and Sturm blow every other 120 out of the water statistically. This has PI, which is the only thing it has going for it. Oh well, I don't really use 120's anymore anyway but I was hoping this would have decent stats for a longer range option on certain maps over my Rose in the kinetic slot.
I also think it’s just dumb bring it back with stats that are woeful in comparison to the best 120s.
Shhhhhhhh, we dont need them
@@thatr0ryt133 To be fair it's only second or third best for the archetype, that's not too bad. IDC what anyone says about it, I'm having fun and doing well with it in IB.
A TV upload on 4th is July just feels so right, thanks for holiday surprise for us Americans
Decoys are EVERYWHERE!
And Young Ahamkara is still nerfed into the ground.
@@bannedmann4469And it should stay there
Don’t forget those swarm nades
@@chrisgeo6713 You’re a scrub with scrub mentality. You don’t even want PvE players to have fun. They just needed to nerf the mines themselves, maybe a small hit to the ability regeneration. But Bungo listens to scrubs like you and nuke stuff while letting other broken things run free. You’re not bright and you don’t learn. Everytime they hit popular Hunter exotics, we get worse stuff immediately. Like these endless threadings, clones, and now overpowered smokes.
Honestly surprised they put decoys on prismatic
We basement dads want good info! Appreciate it as always!!
Keep the honest reviews up. That’s why a lot of us come check in.
WOOOO 300k TV LETS GOO
Congrats on the huge sub milestone TV 🎉❤
“It’s a cool dagger, but there are greatswords out here.”
I’m definitely gonna try it, got my first rolls last night which are pretty good (PI+Adagio w/ Enlightened Action). I think it’ll pair well with the Fighting Lion on closer ranged maps where my hip fire Prophet is too unwieldy.
Keep up the great work TV 🙏🏻
I enjoy your perspectives on the game, I also played with you when trials was out on bannerfall
I'm really enjoying it like I used to at the beginning of D2. This is the only 120 that ever felt good to me. I got an enlightened action/ precision instrument roll and it's the first weapon I've actually masterworked this expansion
and it looks identical to the RSH-12 which is a .50 bottom cylinder revolver
Sweet, 120's are great in pvp if you can master them. They kill slow but they are the best peekshooting weapons in the game. That 2h1b with PI makes it like the old 120's. I don't know if this will replace Sturm as my kinetic slot 120, but I got a moving target/PI roll with 87 range I'm going to take for a spin.
My favorite D2 UA-camr! I always look forward to your vids and I appreciate all the content! I look up to you as a fellow double-primary enjoyer 😂
I agree with your point about igneous being the primere 120, but I do run an elecap true prophecy when running an arc super from time to time. The 50 handling makes the gun feel much better.
Crimils feels like a relic of the past. The only juice it had was when kc 2 tapped at all resilience.
Plus the best shotgun in the game is in the kinetic slot.
@thatr0ryt133 chaperone too, if you're so inclined.
@@MrPinkpanzer I sadly would have to haven’t got conditional formality yet 😊
Bungie to allow us to use the Adept mods on every gun, it make no sense that you can't use then, even more now that they removed some mods.
Great analysis. Thank you.
Congratulations on 300k Subs TV!
Igneous real has ruined any normally stated 120s for us hasn't it?
Yup apart from steady hand every other 120 is just worse.
Seems like they should have brought steady hand back instead
@@hugeness2329 I still am happy it's back, I prefer the feel of Crimil's to Steady Hand
And since Bungo only looks at data in a very autistic manner. They won’t help 120’s, thanks to one.
Sturm used to keep up until Precision Instrument became neccessary to 2h1B. Sturm has the stats to hang with Igneous if you are comfortable with three taps. I don't see how Steady Hand hangs with IH or Sturm as far as stats go and it doesn't have PI. It can get high stability but Iron Grip guts reload speed and it has horrible handling. The only way to get to 85 range on it is with Sureshot that leaves you with 10 handling.
I am a 120 enthusiast and Im in love with this gun. Ingor what inconsider my perfect roll with EP, and I feel I cant lose duels.
Slideways and zen moment enhanced is nice
Congratulations on 300k TV!
Thanks Happy to finally cross that threshold!
I like it because its the most satisfying and best looking hand cannons from hakke
I mean it looks almost identical to the RSH-12 which is a .50 bottom cylinder revolver
I feel the pain in the lobbies and the constant meta. I was hoping I could go into Iron Banner this week and have fun using guns I haven't used in awhile. Nope. Ended up going back to my meta loadouts just so I could compete properly.
Love your videos! Well balanced, for every type of players, and speak to the majority of players, not just the 1%s.
I really hope the class SMG this summer has strategist on it...
That’d be great. Don’t know why they took this long to give us that perk. Demi has been here for literal years.
I got a moving target/OS roll in my first few games and enhanced it right away.
Tried using, but Kovostov kills me before I can fire the third shot. Feels like an AR meta currently
If zen moment was in the first column to pair with the other damage perks would definitely raise the tier of this weopon
I played you in a game on Vostok yesterday was hoping to see some clips of that game in the video😂
I believe your review is accurate overall. I tried a few different rolls and they were just ok, but then I came across moving target/precision instrument and it felt surprisingly good. I enhanced it and I think I’ll be using it for quite some time despite already having a few godly Igneous Hammers. 😁
Always luv your videos 😂.
Don’t sleep on air trigger. Basically outlaw if you reload on a hop. It takes some getting used to but can be fun.
Happy 4th of July TV...🇺🇲...👊
I indeed enjoy your non-click bait videos, as a new dad i have less time to play D2 and have to take advantage of the time I'm on
Probably never gonna use this in pvp but that roll sally gives at like rank 8 is pretty fun to use in pve and hits like a truck with precision instrument
I’ve got a pretty solid roll of this hand canon and I like it, it’s like I can’t miss
If you wanna use a 120 hand cannon in the kinetic slot just use Round Robin with ether Killing Wind or Keep Away and Kill Clip and you will be set Round Robin is a better 120 that is craftable.
Iv played with every reasonable roll and i feel that enlightened action/explosive payload has gotten me most consistent multikills and 3-taps in general. Also i have hammer forged, ricochet, rapid hit, eots, stability mw igneous with adept range on it and crimils feels alot better. Also i prefer the sights and found verdict over conditional, but thats just my personal opinion ✌🏻
Is there a single outlier in any other weapon type as drastic as Igneous Hammer?
After stepping away for a while, i'm having a ton of fun in IB!
I feel both dagger and claws had the perk refresh but not the stat update to match what most weapons have now.
I for one love your reviews, and especially that no nonsense attitude you have about them.
Im fine with the stats, since i use Zen/Adagio Combined action anyways. the dmg loop with that one is more fun and effective for me than just igneous stats, with this having adagio as ell, i love it for kinetic slot
Hey TV could you do a state of titans video where u explain the how/why people are saying titans are lagging behind and possible show us a pve and pvp build or two to shake up the monotony of just punching. Titan main here and im just bored of punching things i want to switch to hunter so bad but ive spent way too much time on titan to just ditch it.
Outlaw precision. IB has been fun playing but hope for good graces on which rollover your on but more solid matches more often
I got one with arrowhead brake, accurized, moving target and precision instrument enhanced and I haven't taken it off since I got it I've already got 90 some kills on since last night lol. I love it but that's just me
This is the roll. Moving target with targeting adjuster just makes this thing feel pretty damn sticky and very easy to use. May not be a stat monster like Igneous, but igneous also can't get this specific roll combo.
That's good, I want fluted, accurized, range mastework with Slideways and PI. I have a roll with smallbore, accurized, range masterwork, moving target and PI now but I want to bump up the handling. That would be 80 range, 38 stab, 48 handling enhanced. Those are very decent numbers for a 120.
It just can't hold a candle to Round Robin for that slot. It just falls way too behind enhanced keep away.
I'm more excited about a 540 with head seeker kill clip
really thought it was nice imo. i got moving target and precision instrument and was having a blast. i also just enjoy hakke hand cannons
I feel like im using this the same reason as everyone else and that is we want to use igneous and our newly obtained shayuras wrath so here we are
I really like Slideways/Zen moment. Having 70 stability with 70 range does duel pretty well. However, it doesnt hold a candle to an Adept Igneous.
A great alternative to those who still uses Duality though!
I think it's purpose is to give a descent 120 for those that don't have an igneous or at least a good one. In that role it's probably ok but I have my iggy so no go for me
Appreciate you
Slideways feels kinda mandatory, just to bump up that Stability. Still looking, but doing fine with Enlightened, Precision Inst. Nothing can top Iggy, but it's still worth having a Precision Inst. 120 on the kinetic slot.
See youre still rockin that Swift. Me too. It rips. 👍🏾
I wonder if the deterministic recoil is like iggy’s, where 100 is best.
I wish IB weapons competed with Trials
Thanks for being honest, and I do agree.
Would have been much more useful to tell us how you felt it compared to other **PRIMARY** 120 kinetic hand cannons.
Can we get some modes that dont have heavy ammo in them. I feel like some people crutch it so much it makes up half there score/kills. I also would like a mode like cod had with a vote system to control meta using sheep.
Pro tip for any homies who want to use a 120 in the kinetic slot….. sturm. Get the catalyst and it is absolutely bonkers! Feels much better than crimil’s…. Outside of precision instrument!
Solid 2 shot 💥
Anyone remember how busted 120’s were when beyond light released….
Yes, I have thousands of PvP kills on my old True Prophecy that I had been holding for years. The rare HC metas were better. Though they did way too many changes at once back then. 110’s didn’t need to change rpms, they just needed that range cap to come off.
Happy 4th of July!
List of 120's I use igneous and true prophecy done.
you the GOAT TV
Well said. That was kinda my expectation.. I really wanted to be wrong though lol
i feel like all 120 HCs should have high range. its so odd when they do this with the stats
Yeah this review is scary accurate. Its funny u finally said the elephant in the room which is 120’s as a whole aren’t that great iggy just rises above and beyond and makes it more than viable. Thats y when the change to crit body happened with 120’s my first thought was “ok iggy will be fine but big ooff on every other one” there kick and stats r just mid and asking for 3 perfect shots with allll the crazy stuff hitting ur screen is a lot to ask when u have guns like autos that r just ease of use machines. I mean heck I notice at times asking my self “y the f$&@ do I even suffer with iggy?” I could just use rose or an auto and do better” idk it seems like even iggy somtimes isnt fast enough for the current meta imo.
Slideways, precision instrument is all you need with max range.
So hard to find it with max range…. I get a 3 out of 5 and nothing else. It’s rough using a 120 with 60-65 range stat. 😭
@rob3497 my first crimil daggers drop was godroll. 5 out of 5. Just RNG luck blessed. Now I'm farming the godrroll pulse, no luck so far and getting broke.
I wish it was a 140/150...its one of my fav gun models in the game as well as the sound of the shot as well...i WANT it to be as good as an igneous or midnight coup buutt....its jus not there unfortunately
I don’t know how or why, but I hit more headshots with this hc than any other hc I’ve ever used, and I have all the godroll hc’s you can think of. To the point where I would exclaim out loud after hitting 7-8 crits in a row going from target to target.
I'm guessing that the Ace of Spades typically wipes the floor with this.
As a noobish player, that hand cannon with a properly matched game is on fire...
Bring back steady hand!
3 second video...
Lol it's looked like all of the players that was against TV were decors lol they were just standing there lol
Gotcha use igneous still
TV is the scrubbing bubbles of Destiny. He Iron Banners so you don’t have to!
I see TRU VANGUARD REVIEW I CLICK!
I want good information from the destiny pvp dad gamer :D
“I’m not big on Air Trigger” …what does that even mean? I suggest watching coolguy’s break down of the gun with this perk to see how you can make it work as a column 1 perk (better than Outlaw which you seem perfectly fine with)
I know what air trigger does. And no I'm still not big on it. Getting faster reload when I hop is not what I prioritize. I want things that are actively contributing to my duel. A hop reload is not enough to make me want to use my perk slot on it when Slideways will reload some of the mag for me AND give me a plus 20 stability buff on a weapon type that's known for kicking like a mule. Stability also helps with flinch resistance. So no, Coolguy and I politely disagree on this one. I still don't think it's a top shelf perk even if it can surpass Outlaw in terms of reload. Reloading isn't my problem with this weapon anyway.
Finally, someone who understands that 120’s aren’t doing great. It’s just Igneous.
Idk if mnk vs roller makes a difference, but i hVe almost 3k kills on my sturm, with catalyst it is absolutely awesome. No P.I., but it has better raw stats!
@@LilBert420 He points that out, that’s an exotic. It should be great, it ain’t representative of the archetype.
@@bannedmann4469 didn’t say it represented the archetype. All i said was if you want a kinetic slot 120, sturm is literally nuts. Give it a try :)
Never understood why Bungie decided to make Hakke Hand Cannons and not Machine Guns…
Some of the choices for the different foundries are odd.
👍
Thanks for no click bait “you wont believe this secret roll” etc
Great if you don't have a decent precision instrument Igneous, otherwise it's a solid pass.
Its fun to shoot i like the design and sound but thats about it
So I wouldn’t have to? My brother in Christ I’m trying to guild my title I HAVE to 😂😂😂
Sbmm be like: my team got mercied and everyone on my team had .6 or less while I sat on a 2.6, the enemy team had 3.0-15.0’s…. Yeah I’m ascendant, but I can’t play the game for you guys, I can only steamroll those that are in my way, when the homies rotate bad the whole game 🤷♂️ it’s no longer a skill issue, it’s an intelligence issue. Get smart because get gud only gets you so far.
Or Bungie could match you with players at your level and bad players are spared having to go through games like you described
Crimil's Dagger is pretty amazing, but I say that mostly because I don't have the Igneous Hammer. So Crimil's is better than nothing by far.
I just watched coolguys vid. Where air trigger!
At 10 resilience it won't two tap with adigo and actually ups ttk. Just saying
Yeah only good thing is enhanced precision instrument. I hate the feel of the gun.
I think criminals dagger is good for people that cannot get an igneous hammer
But I got 95 range! With moving target and adagio. Come at me bro!
If you thing 120s got it bad dont even touch a precision frame bow.
I swear. I do good, I drop about 20 kills on average but I get teamates that barely get more than 10, I even try to cap. I just keep losing. But still even losing I get engram drops so I'm not THAT upset about it. I just would likecto win, xd
My summing up the conclusion: Some of us are dumb. Those of us that aren't, expect more from our PVP weapon.
What? You mean it's not a BUSTED Igneous Hammer KILLER that you HAVE to GRIND NOW!?
What I don't get is how they justify it having lower stats just because it isn't a trials weapon. Yeah Trials is more "difficult" but IB is more rare and there is no adept variants of their guns, they should at least have comparable stats in base variants.
The mm saying it’s trying to not match up players of widely disparate skill is such a lie, played in more mercy matches the past 2 days than I have the last month. Anyways, this version of crimil’s feels weirdly clunky, maybe it’s just how the gun is cus of how square it looks.