Dana 30 Torq Locker - 1 Year Review & Tear Down Jeep JKU
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- I am not sponsored by nor am I being paid by Torq Master Industries for this Install & Review.
Just about one year ago I installed the Torq Locker by Torq Master Industries in my 2015 JKU after sheering my spider gears. Since then it was installed for 10 months and I put a combination of 8,000 miles of on and off-road driving on it. I just recently finished my axle swap project so it was the opportune time to do a review.
The Install of the Torq Locker is reverse of the dis-assembly and the link to my install and first impressions video is below. The re-installation of the Torq Locker took me maybe 20-30 minutes for the carrier and to fully assemble the complete axle again up to one additional hour. This went quick for me since I knew the process and had just dis-assembled it.
One item I could have articulated better in my explanation of the turning radius is that while the turning radius is impacted, if you setup for your turn and initiate it at the appropriate time you can achieve tight turns comparable to an open differential based on driver experience.
Torq Master Industries has the only automatic locker made in the USA, made from 9310 alloy and the quality shows as you can see by the components and their like new appearance!
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We are VictorVectorJKU taking on this build and the trails with both Direction and Magnitude!
Thanks for watching!
Taking the time to reply to people who have taken the time to watch AND comment speaks more than the high quality videos you put out. Two thumbs way up my friend!
Thank you Elevated Vue! I do my best to reply to questions or feedback as best I can! I appreciate you checking them out!!
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Great review. Love how you have proven that you can lock a dirty 30 and wheel it. The internet experts say it can’t be done lol. My dirty 30 is locked and working great.
Thank you bud! And exactly, I expected to break something after the locker install but that D30 held together tough and after looking at the shape of the Torq Locker after the 10 months I was very surprised with how new it still looked! I definitely think the D30’s have a low expectation and our cases have proven that!
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Thanks for the review. Waitin on a Torq locker for my 8.25 and will probably stick one in my Dana 30. Subscribed and liked.
You bet Sam! Thanks for checking out the channel and subscribing, I really appreciate it! That is exciting, I hope you enjoy them!
Prolly shoulda aired down first. Woulda never been stuck.
Airing down is essential and always part of my arriving to the trail routine 🤙🏼
Victor you didn't mention that you where abusing all this with heavy 37" tires on a dana 30!!! that really speaks to the quality of that "lunchbox locker" . and people i have wheeled with Victor and he did not baby that dana 30 at all.
Haha very true Troy! Thanks for adding that! But what can I say I gotta keep up with all the big boys running 40’s locked front and rear with tons!! Or those lighter shorter Jeeps, like yours, that can just cruise through the trails up here with ease!!
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Good video. I like the long-term review. Most put it in and have 5 minutes of experience before they review.
Note, ring gear can remain in place to put in or take out a Torq locker.
Thanks for checking out my video freeidaho! And yeah I try to give my first impressions and need to get around to more of my long term reviews, but I definitely agree having time under your belt to give user feedback is important!
So to your note, it depends on the gear ratio that you have, my 3.73 gears cause an interference with the cross pin to be removed so I’m my case it was necessary to remove the ring gear but may not be for all cases.
@@VictorVectorJKU Good to know about gearing. I will be putting Torq's into my D30 and C8.2 this summer.
Good deal bud!! They are great! I hope you enjoy them when you get them!
@@VictorVectorJKU I assumed that if one put in the ring gear side first, the size of the ring gear wouldn't matter.
So if you do not have the interference between the cross pin and ring gear then yes you should be able to install one side at a time starting with the ring gear side.
I explain the interference of the cross pin and the ring gear at the 3:52 mark in my install video of you have not already seen that: ua-cam.com/video/WrgoaOitwhM/v-deo.html
Great job on the video. @ 9.53 it looks like the cross pin is loose. Can you comment please? Thank you.
So I am not sure I would say it’s loose, there is a spring pin that holds it in place. Rather the tolerance of the hole in the carrier that it interfaces with the rod is in question. I am not sure if that is in spec or not. I cannot remember during my initial installation what the fit was of this rod. It could be wear and tear based on running 37x12.50r17 tires and the wheeling I do but this did not cause any issues as long as I ran the locker. Good observation tho and thanks for checking out my video Ray!
I've been eyeballing this for months. I'm convinced my xj needs it now. Haha! I'm out in Marysville. Maybe I'll bump into you someday.
Hey there Lilgreydentwagen, thanks for checking out my video! I’m glad my video has given you the confidence to buy a Torq Locker! And yeah that would be awesome!
Great job on the review and install video! Most guys would put a locker in the rear first as opposed to doin the front. But your situation required front install. I'm going the same route with the Bumble Jeep (Torque lockers) just not sure if front or rear will be first. Might just bite the bullet and do both at the same time. God bless and stay well.
Thanks a lot Project Bumble Jeep! Yeah, stupid grenaded spider gears! I definitely think Torq Masters Torq Locker is a very quality locker where I have heard of a lot of unsatisfied customers from other auto-locker or lunch box style locker brands. I think you will enjoy them when you get them front, rear or both! Definitely a tough call on where to start tho, best of luck to you and your installs when the time comes!
Question what brand and what weight of differential fluid are you using? That might have a lot to do with why the unit looks so good
Hey Krod2162 thanks for checking out my video! That is a very good question! I am not positive but I think it was valvoline brand and SAE 80w-90
Do you recommend it for daily ? In dana 30, streets and only off-road weekends nothing extreme but only desert
So I, off and on, would daily drive my Jeep with the Torq Locker and it did just fine for me! It comes down to what you are looking to achieve! If you need more traction in the desert and a front locker is the place to put it then I think it would be just fine for you.
I have a mechanical lunchbox locker in my front dana 30 axle. My jeep is almost a year old and has 28000 miles. I put the locker in at 8k. Works fine
Great video!!! Still debating on this or a Spartan. Awesome footage of you wheeling. Did you have any issues with clearances?
Hey there Dukain, thanks for checking out my video! So from the little bit of research, I did I found a decent number of people having issues with the spartan locker and customer support was not great. Now I cannot speak to Spartan more than what I have heard, but I know that Torq Masters is manufactured in the US, they have great quality and customer service! Also, if you go through Northridge4x4 and use Northwest Jeepcast's discount code I think the cost is better, not talking about free and quick shipping! Check out NWJEEPCAST on IG, UA-cam, and their Podcast! They provide their discount code in their podcast, and they always have great content in each of their shows! What do you mean with clearances? do you mean while I am wheeling or with the install of the Torq locker?
Thats crazy running 37s on a dana 30 lol
As long as you wheel your rig reasonably and don’t push to hard or do stupid things it can be done!! Thanks for checking out my video Ky0611!!
I noticed the locker is beating the crap out of the carrier , through pin hole was out of round and pin was slapping around . But was happy to see how well the locker was holding up. so that's one thing I was worried about gone, but I was told the locker makes the jeep walk sideways on ice and wet roads. any truth to that? I really want to put front and rear lockers in. not building a rock crawler , just something to play on dirt/mud trails with. thanks for the video.
Hey there RVMagnum, thanks for checking out my video! I definitely noticed the same thing but I am not sure if that was solely based on the locker or if the carrier pin was getting worn earlier on even with the open carrier.
So to your question, I am not sure about wet or icy roads since the locker would only be engaged in four-wheel drive being in the front axle and I wouldn’t engage four wheel drive for those conditions. I personally recommend a selectable locker for a rear axle if you will be installing this in a daily or something that will see road miles. But for the front locker I definitely recommend the Torq Locker! But if it will be a mainly dedicated trail right then Torq Lockers front and rear will be great!
9:52 are you talking about this time stamp? I've never pulled apart a diff before, despite my confidence that I could do it. Is that amount of "slop" with the carrier pin normal?
@banzaiib yes that is the correct time stamp for the slop on the carrier pin. I am not sure if there is supposed to be any slop at all with this pin. I imagine what you are seeing in my axle is more than desirable.
Like I said in your first locker video, you do a great job communicating throughout the video, keep up the good work. And FWIW this locker is now my next mod, and having this in a JL should work even better since the front has the axle disconnect.T hanks again for doing these!
Thanks again Brad! That is definitely exciting to hear, I hope that you enjoy it when you pull the trigger to purchase it! And definitely the mid axle disconnect should definitely help! 🤙🏼
@@VictorVectorJKU great video!. I am regearing my 2016 jku non Rubicon from stock 3.21 gears to revolution 4.88's front and back. I'm pretty sure I'd like to go with an Aussie locker but not sure what model number of Aussie to get and what open carrier would be compatible. Could you help me out with that?
@stevestewart3816 hey there Steve, thanks for checking out my video! I recommend going with the torq locker over an Aussie locker, my understanding is that there is a difference. I would also recommend reaching out to torq master directly and have them assist you so you know there is no mistake. They are great to work with!
@@VictorVectorJKU thank you
I'm on the fence with getting one for my YJ, how is it on the street when just in 2x4? I bypassed the vacuum disconnect
The torq locker does not impact driving in 2-wheel drive except for extremely tight turns on dry pavement. Unless you engage 4 wheel drive it will be very similar operation to an open differential. You will hear a clicking noise and occasionally a pop but this is normal operation of the auto locking feature. The vacuum disconnect being bypassed would not impact the function.
Good evening, my friend. 😍💕 Big like.👍 Amazing upload, thank you for sharing.🤗💖
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it!
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I hope there is a way to install that Torq Locker on Wk2 front open diff.
Hey there Ahmed, thanks for checking out my video! I did a quick search on their site and did not see the WK2 as an available option. However it might be worth shooting them an email to see if they have a product offering that will work for you! Best of luck!
How come you didn’t put the torque locker in the rear? It’s stronger.
Hey there Jeepin-herandthere, thanks for checking out my video!The primary reason is I daily drive my Jeep when I want to and I did not want to hear the ratcheting or cause the tires to scrub on corners while driving as it would be more noticeable in the rear since that axle is driving power. Also my rear end was the factory limited slip and different from the open carrier so I couldn’t just swap a torq-locker in the rear like the front. I would have to swap the carrier as well and that would mean re-gearing.
Did they get quieter over time?
Hey there moejr14, thanks for checking out my video! It definitely got less noticeable but I’m not sure if I would say quieter. After doing the tear down the teeth of the locker still looked brand new. Also note you typically only ever notice the clicking unless going around a tight corner!
@@VictorVectorJKU I’ve been getting some real loud popping at slow turns in reverse. I’m wondering if somethings wrong or is that normal? And if so does it get better over time
So occasionally I did have similar louder and harsher pops than the typical ticking. I believe that is normal and I found it to be very infrequent. However I suggest you give Torq-Masters a call to confirm. They have great customer service and value their customers and will make sure everything is good. They are also the experts and I can only speak from my experience!
Just their customer service alone made me go with them. They answer right away and get everything figured out.
I had the exact same experience! Can’t beat a USA made product and based team!
Great review. I am impressed, I am about to re-gear and do some type of locker.
Thank you Rejoyce and thanks for checking out my video! I was very impressed with how the locker held up as well! And that is great to hear, definitely helps out a bunch!
Thanks… was hoping you’d do this review. Thanks!!!
You bet! Hopefully there was some good info in there for you! Thanks for checking out my video!
So did you daily drive with the front locker? I just installed one on my 15 jk and the steering dangerous at speeds over 50 mph
Hey there Ruptrain, thanks for checking out my video!! So I didn’t 100% daily my Jeep but I did drive it a lot on the highway. I had zero issues with my torque locker which makes me curious about your issues. Where did you install yours, front or rear axle? Did you complete the tire spin tests? Have you also reviewed your suspension and steering?
@@VictorVectorJKU I am stumped, I did a spartan locker in the front axle. I changed ball joints, axle seals, and added out seals. Now it wonders and is very sensitive over 50. When i come out of the throttle it unloads to the front passenger side. So i started with alignment. Front toe was out so I went 1/16th toe in and track bar was off 1/2inch so I adjusted it. Seems a little better but still doing and feeling the same. Ive thought about adding another 1/16th of toe but I’m stumped any help or ideas would be appreciated
Ah I see, I am not sure how spartan lockers direct you to test to ensure the install is correct unlike torque masters spin test. But even though the “unloading” you mention doesn’t make me think this could be the issue I would still recommend reviewing all your joints for steering and suspension. I just made a video of how to review for ball joint and wheel hub diagnostics as well as your steering joints. Go check those out to help identify if that could be an issue! Otherwise it sounds like the locker could be the issue.
Hi VictorVector. I have little bit strange question. My rear DANA 44 Limited Slip differential is dying. Do you suggest to rebuild the LSD, or install launchbox type differential. I would like to swap it with TORQ MASTER launch box. What extra parts I should buy in addition to the TL14430 set of gears?
Some extra info. Car is for regular driving to work and shopping.
Thanks in advance for any information.
Hey there Alexei, thanks for checking out my video! So being a daily driver I would recommend rebuilding the LSD. If you go with the torq locker you will have the locker engaged 100% of the time being the drive axle and you will notice it. It will ratchet and cause your tires to scrub on turns. I think the factory LSD requires a new carrier assembly to be installed, I don’t believe they can be rebuilt but I could be wrong. I would also say the ring and pinion may not need to be replaced but proper re-gearing procedures should be followed with a new carrier install. I hope this helps!
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Thanks for explaining all these driving moments!
You are welcome Alexei!
@@VictorVectorJKU Hey Victor, so I have a similar concern. Another words, since the locker is always 'on', would it be similar to a welded diff? I've driven a car with a welded diff on a street and didn't like it at all. Thoughts? Thank you!
Great stuff!💪🏻💪🏻
Thank you bud!!