He failed to admit his mistake and instead made excuses. He claimed that people wanted bloodshed, but in reality, it was just a hiphop beef and not something that should escalate to street beef. Despite this, he continued to make excuses and did not take responsibility for his actions.
@@UsernotfoundII the apology was him taking responsibility tho. That's literally all he did. And he's gotta deal with the backlash too he's knows that. Also its disingenuous to act like everybody on the internet for the last 2 days just wanted "friendly competition" people wanted kendrick to end coles career or vice versa, and even now people are saying kendrick did it without even trying. It's a lot of negative energy and its been going on since the like that verse dropped. I'm glad cole stopped before this got even more ridiculous than it already was. Now let's see what drake and k dot do and call it a day, cause we cant be on this forever.
He wasn't honest about it. Trying to act as If the world wanted them to beef and end in blood, when his entire image is being true to hip hop and battle rap, was corny as hell. If there's one guy among the 'big three', he should be the one with the most understanding for the sport. He wanted to appear as the bigger guy on stage, but what he really did was asking Kendrick to not hit him too hard in anticipation for the response, after releasing his weak ass diss.
@@RandomDude-ui4cp Exactly. I already wasn't really impressed with the conscious, socially-aware part of his image; I felt like he used it more for the image than the substance, especially the past few years. Now the "The real is back, the ville is back" part of him, where he felt like he was born too late for oldschool rap but still carried that same essence, is unbelievable to me. I respect what it might've taken to personally gone on stage to say all that, but as an artist it was disrespectful to the craft.
@@MMCLLC7 As Kendrick once said “I'll Big Pun ya punk-ass, you a scared lil' bitch. Tiptoein' around my name, nigga, you lame. And when I get at you, homie Don't you just tell me you was just playin' "Oh, I was just playin', K-Dot C'mon, you know a nigga rock witchu, bro"
You are talking past the point. Cole is constantly claiming the Goat spot, asking other Rappers to test him, throwing sneak shots and even went as far as releasing a diss. His entire image is about being true to Hip Hop and battle rap. But NOW all of sudden he forgot the definition and is all about peace and harmonie? Claiming nonsense like "the world wanted blood"? Tf is he talking about?? Battling a Rapper that he mentioned for years doesn't sit right with his spirit? What a weak excuse for being scared and trying to back paddle in time, cause he folded under 48 hours after releasing his weak response. Not wanting to battle his friend is one thing, but releasing a diss, in response to his "friend" calling his best work a light pack and apologizing for basically saying the same thing is pathetic. Cole claims that he's offering his chin to Kendrick, but what he really did was offering his cheeks and begging Kendrick to not knock him out..
I agree entirely with your assessment of the situation, but I enjoyed the idea of them trading disses. I wasn't expecting them to really beef and saw it more as a lyrical exhibition match, but based off the reactions I can see why Cole did something he isn't proud of
J.FOLD bout to drop another album: “The Apology” •The Better Man ft. Drake •Diss & Miss •Self Infliction Conviction •The Glaze Phase (fan requested) •I Stand by my Stans •Not enough lungs for the Smoke 💨 •Bars before cars 🚗 •Hold the L for Lamar Can’t wait
@@Atlstreetpodcast2.0 If his word is to be believed, all that stuff messed with him on a personal level. To come out and say that in front of your fans takes integrity. Integrity is a trait usually associated with masculinity
HOW did he went too far? Kdot called his albums trash and Cole only did the same. TF is he even apologizing for?? This is the softest shit I ever witnessed in the history of rap and I wish I was exaggerating.
@@RandomDude-ui4cphe went far bc like that wasn’t about him! 💀 which is why he looked goofy asf - mf should’ve minded his fuckin business if he didn’t want to make the diss track, he shouldn’t have
I don’t know what Cole or anybody who defended Cole talking about for years now he been dissing!!!!that was the most pussy shit I ever heard it’s just lyrical beef not physical Black men are wayyyyy toooo sensitive apologize for a rap battle where they do that at.
Cole been saying for years he wants someone to shoot cuz hes in his prime and the moment someone shoots he folds after losing two nights sleep. Cole having a whole identity crisis😂
It’s good to hear some perspective that considers more than just our entertainment factor. People wanted real beef, but it never was that. There might be more smoke between Drake and Kendrick, but even then I don’t know how personal it is. The types of battles that people were asking for were built around real personal beef. This isn’t that. It never was. People just disappointed and don’t know how else to express it.
Says more about the fanbase than the artist. lol just last Friday K. Dot was down 0-1 to Cole. Now, it wasn’t that serious to begin with. Salute to J. Cole but the fanbase is confused. 😂
I honestly think the heart pt 6 will mention this apology. Hell we may even get j coke featured on that mug 🍵….😳 wait…. Will there be a collab album now???? To be continued✨
It’s either J. Cole believes the things he said in his response and his apology is fake, or he doesn’t believe what he said and the apology is real. Either way there’s something fake about him in the situation.
Cole been taking shots at Kdot for years and for Cole to say him, Drake, and Kendrick are on the same level is disrespectful. Kendrick has a right to feel he’s better and the best mc out of the 3. He feels there is no comparison and rightfully so. Cole just apologizing proves this point further. Cole knew he could not win this battle so he apologized to say his career. A real L move. If this was drill rappers I understand wanting to back down because lives could be on the line. But these are conscious rappers so it was just a competition. Cole threw a stone then his hand. Certified cornball move
If they were actual friends and that tight with each other Kendrick would’ve never throw shots at Drake with Cole standing so close to him. Better yet, Kendrick should’ve just immediately told Cole that he wasn’t the aimed target before he went jumping out the window. Cole just too soft. No ounce of competition in this blood smh
I hear you, but you’re wrong and heres why: J Cole has been asking for this smoke for the past 5 **years** . He’s been hopping on other niggas tracks, talking about how no one can fuck with him, talking about how he turns features into his songs, talking about how hes not 3 or 2, and challenging anyone to step to him. HE, stepped into the ring, and as a student of hiphop, he knows that it’s competitive. He’s been talking all that talk, but when kendrick responds “fuck the big 3, its just been me”, now he doesnt have for the heart for this??? And I don’t buy the whole “peer pressure” narrative, because hes been on a warpath claiming to be “one of them ones”, claiming to be Muhammad ali. This is hip-hop, shit doesnt havent to be personal, and the heat btwn kdot and cole (which exists despite how they feel about each other just by the very nature of fighting for the #1 title), wasn’t that deep. Nothing was gonna get “bloody”. Battle rappers literally be talking about niggas dead moms, fucking babymoms, and dapping it up afterwards because they know its just rap. And the fans weren’t even looking for that!! we wanted bars, we wanted hard hitting lyricism, we wanted competition. While I can acknowledge why cole did what he did, it goes against everything he’s been standing on for the past five years, and I cant respect that.
The only thing I can say is that shit was very real life LOL, I guess no one could predict this outcome. I felt very frustrated with Cole, I wish he hadn't apologized but oh well.
how do u get pressured to write a whole album? maybe if it was one song he could get a pass. I dont think it sound forced. You can't claim ur the best on multiple songs an then when someone challenges u, u fold. He never felt peer pressured to self proclaim himself as a goat. it's hip hop, it doesn't need to be street beef lol. So much more respect would've been gained if cole jus went through wit da bar sparring even if he was gonna lose. if drake or anyone else did this, the internet would break. If Cole is gonna say sorry i shouldn't hear him in sum feat verse a month later talking about how hes top 3 or the goat.
Cole apologized to Kendrick Lupe apologized to Kendrick Jay Electronica apologized to Kendrick Macklemore apologized to Kendrick You just can't diss Kendrick at this point. He's indestructible. His catalogue speaks for himself and after he put aside his demons on Mr.Morale you can't even diss his private life. He's THAT GUY!!!!
Imo the diss actually takes away from Mr morales impact. On the album kendrick talked about doing away with toxic masculinity, and to stop putting him on a pedestal because it's harmful to his mental. Bro went to therapy to deal with how fame and notoriety was affecting him. Then he turns around and disses two other widely respected MCs in the culture, which feeds into toxicity, and makes it seem like he does wanna be on that pedestal and he's proud of it. Kendrick said on the album he was confused drake and ye reconciled, and admitted if it was him he wouldn't so he knows he needs to do more healing. So it makes sense that he wanted to diss drake and cole because he's said in his own music he still has an ego and pride that he sometimes can't get over. But just because it makes sense doesn't mean kendrick has put aside his demons. That's just how I feel tho. Obviously I don't know the man and neither do you.
I hear you but lets be honest if he's diss track was well received would he have apologized? Cole on a lot of records be saying shit on some "I wish a nigga would test him" when finally a nigga do he don't stand firm? We all knew they friends we just wanted to see 2 great lyricists have an exchange it was never that serious well at least between Cole & Kendrick, with Drake & Kendrick its a whole different story. Also didn't he diss Kanye 2 days after he was discharged from the mental institution on False Prophets? Where the apology there? I mean its no secret Kanye J. Cole's biggest idol. He's sampled his music & worked a lot with him early in his career. So he draws the line with 7 minute drill but not False Prophet, that song still on UA-cam.😂I don't want to call him a hypocrite but this don't make no sense...
THANK YOU. this is what I been saying. Cole literally put kendrick on, nobodies gonna "win" this war. All of these entertaining beefs had reasons behind them. It's easy to diss someone like drake he does weirdo ass Hollywood shit. Cole and kendrick are so clean, do too much for their communities, and really this was going no where. There are so few rappers who get by on just lyricism nowadays. Eminem is in that discussion, and thats party because he reaches into that weird rap audience who wont listen to black rappers. Its about MUSIC now a days. Eminem - MGK, or T - DRAKE had reasons and entertainment about them. People are just bored, I want albums not "beef for fun", imagine that. Thats lame. I bet you kendricks diss wasn't even gonna be hot either, it was all gonna be stupid. Everybody talking about "this is good for rap" dont listen to anything but hits. REAL MUSIC is good for rap...thats why we even praise these two so much. Cole put kendrick on...he introduced this man to the game. imagine that lol. You cant just turn around and beef cause people told you to thats lame.
I understand why people have lost respect for Cole or whatever but I’m not surprised by this as a Cole fan. He literally said why can two legends not coexist, he wouldn’t beef for clout, and like you said he’s shown a clear respect for Kendrick for his whole career. I respect the fact that he decided to be himself regardless of the public opinion and I really don’t care because my respect for Cole has always been his authenticity. Also, this past week has been the most annoying week of “musical discourse” in a long time with fanbases just blatantly lying and downplaying the other artist.
sum of the greatests songs in rap are disses. competition makes u better. if ur gonna claim youself as the goat, u should be able to back it up. thats all it is, that was one of the main messages of kendricks diss imo. it's not about making random rappers beef for no reason. it's making rappers who are considered top tier go head to head to see who has better bars, thats all lol.
Cole did not put this man on 😂. Kendrick grinded for years. Cole no doubt helped him but to say he and he alone put Kendrick on is just factually incorrect.
@@BlkStar99It did kinda feel like living in an upside down world. I saw Cole fans and Kendrick fans in my feed saying the other artist was trash when I know for a fact that they bump both.
@@MaxMax-zo9vq I’m hearing Cole fans saying that TPAB is boring. Kendrick fans telling me that Cole has never had a verse comparable to Kendrick, he’s never gotten play in sports arenas, etc. That’s why I just listen to the music and let it rock.
The Fall Off" better not have one “best rapper alive” bar on it. He gotta rap about global warming or some shit
So original
did you just bite this off scru face jean LMFAO
Saw this comment a bunch of times. Try being original you loser
The Art of peer pressure
I respect Cole for getting in front of potentially millions of people and acknowledging he messed up.
He failed to admit his mistake and instead made excuses. He claimed that people wanted bloodshed, but in reality, it was just a hiphop beef and not something that should escalate to street beef. Despite this, he continued to make excuses and did not take responsibility for his actions.
@@UsernotfoundII the apology was him taking responsibility tho. That's literally all he did. And he's gotta deal with the backlash too he's knows that.
Also its disingenuous to act like everybody on the internet for the last 2 days just wanted "friendly competition" people wanted kendrick to end coles career or vice versa, and even now people are saying kendrick did it without even trying. It's a lot of negative energy and its been going on since the like that verse dropped. I'm glad cole stopped before this got even more ridiculous than it already was.
Now let's see what drake and k dot do and call it a day, cause we cant be on this forever.
He wasn't honest about it. Trying to act as If the world wanted them to beef and end in blood, when his entire image is being true to hip hop and battle rap, was corny as hell. If there's one guy among the 'big three', he should be the one with the most understanding for the sport. He wanted to appear as the bigger guy on stage, but what he really did was asking Kendrick to not hit him too hard in anticipation for the response, after releasing his weak ass diss.
@@RandomDude-ui4cp Exactly. I already wasn't really impressed with the conscious, socially-aware part of his image; I felt like he used it more for the image than the substance, especially the past few years. Now the "The real is back, the ville is back" part of him, where he felt like he was born too late for oldschool rap but still carried that same essence, is unbelievable to me. I respect what it might've taken to personally gone on stage to say all that, but as an artist it was disrespectful to the craft.
@@MMCLLC7 As Kendrick once said
“I'll Big Pun ya punk-ass, you a scared lil' bitch. Tiptoein' around my name, nigga, you lame. And when I get at you, homie
Don't you just tell me you was just playin'
"Oh, I was just playin', K-Dot
C'mon, you know a nigga rock witchu, bro"
You are talking past the point. Cole is constantly claiming the Goat spot, asking other Rappers to test him, throwing sneak shots and even went as far as releasing a diss. His entire image is about being true to Hip Hop and battle rap. But NOW all of sudden he forgot the definition and is all about peace and harmonie? Claiming nonsense like "the world wanted blood"? Tf is he talking about?? Battling a Rapper that he mentioned for years doesn't sit right with his spirit? What a weak excuse for being scared and trying to back paddle in time, cause he folded under 48 hours after releasing his weak response. Not wanting to battle his friend is one thing, but releasing a diss, in response to his "friend" calling his best work a light pack and apologizing for basically saying the same thing is pathetic. Cole claims that he's offering his chin to Kendrick, but what he really did was offering his cheeks and begging Kendrick to not knock him out..
😂😂 💯💯
I agree entirely with your assessment of the situation, but I enjoyed the idea of them trading disses. I wasn't expecting them to really beef and saw it more as a lyrical exhibition match, but based off the reactions I can see why Cole did something he isn't proud of
That's exactly how I feel. The fans tried to make it into something it wasn't.
J.FOLD bout to drop another album:
“The Apology”
•The Better Man ft. Drake
•Diss & Miss
•Self Infliction Conviction
•The Glaze Phase (fan requested)
•I Stand by my Stans
•Not enough lungs for the Smoke 💨
•Bars before cars 🚗
•Hold the L for Lamar
Can’t wait
Kdot glazer incoming 😂
😂😂😂
We the kdot fandom do not claim him lol I’m teasing 😈
Bars before cars 😂😂
Nasty work lol
welp he did say ""might delete later" lol
Who knew that was foreshadowing lol
That's passive aggressive shit. Not manly lol
@@Atlstreetpodcast2.0 If his word is to be believed, all that stuff messed with him on a personal level. To come out and say that in front of your fans takes integrity. Integrity is a trait usually associated with masculinity
This is why I like Eric. Always appreciate a more nuanced and non-biased take.
Whole lot of respect for JCole, his spirit and honesty is refreshing
nah you was spittin here, cole got caught up in the wrong battle and went too far
HOW did he went too far? Kdot called his albums trash and Cole only did the same. TF is he even apologizing for?? This is the softest shit I ever witnessed in the history of rap and I wish I was exaggerating.
@@RandomDude-ui4cphe went far bc like that wasn’t about him! 💀 which is why he looked goofy asf - mf should’ve minded his fuckin business if he didn’t want to make the diss track, he shouldn’t have
J. Cole is too wholesome.
"gleughgergehgegle gelglelegghele"
Don't ever fix your lips like collagen
And say something when you gon' end up apologing -Ye
Nah the explanation of how Cole caught a stray got me crying 😂😂😂
No point in going to war if your hearts not in it. im not mad at cole
Just don’t say you ready for battle, then do this. Cole gone out sad
He is ready for battle, just not against someone he's friends with.@@tryver18
Dude,
Cole been taking shots at Dot for years.
He wasnt no innocent bystander.
Dot hit back & Cole failed at his response using lies in 7MD.
Big facts
I don’t know what Cole or anybody who defended Cole talking about for years now he been dissing!!!!that was the most pussy shit I ever heard it’s just lyrical beef not physical
Black men are wayyyyy toooo sensitive apologize for a rap battle where they do that at.
Nah... #Coleworld gotta take this L. After being called out AND responded back.
Cole been saying for years he wants someone to shoot cuz hes in his prime and the moment someone shoots he folds after losing two nights sleep. Cole having a whole identity crisis😂
It’s good to hear some perspective that considers more than just our entertainment factor. People wanted real beef, but it never was that.
There might be more smoke between Drake and Kendrick, but even then I don’t know how personal it is. The types of battles that people were asking for were built around real personal beef.
This isn’t that. It never was.
People just disappointed and don’t know how else to express it.
Says more about the fanbase than the artist. lol just last Friday K. Dot was down 0-1 to Cole. Now, it wasn’t that serious to begin with. Salute to J. Cole but the fanbase is confused. 😂
KEEP THAT!
7 Minute Drill flopped, and he tried to save face. If it was well received then he wouldn't have apologized. Thats bih energy
I honestly think the heart pt 6 will mention this apology. Hell we may even get j coke featured on that mug 🍵….😳 wait….
Will there be a collab album now???? To be continued✨
It’s either J. Cole believes the things he said in his response and his apology is fake, or he doesn’t believe what he said and the apology is real. Either way there’s something fake about him in the situation.
Yo that’s crazy
i apologize i'm ovo yakno ehhh 🤣
Cole been taking shots at Kdot for years and for Cole to say him, Drake, and Kendrick are on the same level is disrespectful. Kendrick has a right to feel he’s better and the best mc out of the 3. He feels there is no comparison and rightfully so. Cole just apologizing proves this point further. Cole knew he could not win this battle so he apologized to say his career. A real L move. If this was drill rappers I understand wanting to back down because lives could be on the line. But these are conscious rappers so it was just a competition. Cole threw a stone then his hand. Certified cornball move
If they were actual friends and that tight with each other Kendrick would’ve never throw shots at Drake with Cole standing so close to him. Better yet, Kendrick should’ve just immediately told Cole that he wasn’t the aimed target before he went jumping out the window. Cole just too soft. No ounce of competition in this blood smh
I hear you, but you’re wrong and heres why: J Cole has been asking for this smoke for the past 5 **years** . He’s been hopping on other niggas tracks, talking about how no one can fuck with him, talking about how he turns features into his songs, talking about how hes not 3 or 2, and challenging anyone to step to him. HE, stepped into the ring, and as a student of hiphop, he knows that it’s competitive. He’s been talking all that talk, but when kendrick responds “fuck the big 3, its just been me”, now he doesnt have for the heart for this??? And I don’t buy the whole “peer pressure” narrative, because hes been on a warpath claiming to be “one of them ones”, claiming to be Muhammad ali. This is hip-hop, shit doesnt havent to be personal, and the heat btwn kdot and cole (which exists despite how they feel about each other just by the very nature of fighting for the #1 title), wasn’t that deep. Nothing was gonna get “bloody”. Battle rappers literally be talking about niggas dead moms, fucking babymoms, and dapping it up afterwards because they know its just rap. And the fans weren’t even looking for that!! we wanted bars, we wanted hard hitting lyricism, we wanted competition.
While I can acknowledge why cole did what he did, it goes against everything he’s been standing on for the past five years, and I cant respect that.
Facts
The only thing I can say is that shit was very real life LOL, I guess no one could predict this outcome. I felt very frustrated with Cole, I wish he hadn't apologized but oh well.
how do u get pressured to write a whole album? maybe if it was one song he could get a pass. I dont think it sound forced. You can't claim ur the best on multiple songs an then when someone challenges u, u fold. He never felt peer pressured to self proclaim himself as a goat. it's hip hop, it doesn't need to be street beef lol. So much more respect would've been gained if cole jus went through wit da bar sparring even if he was gonna lose.
if drake or anyone else did this, the internet would break. If Cole is gonna say sorry i shouldn't hear him in sum feat verse a month later talking about how hes top 3 or the goat.
LMAO facts , cant be mad at a man that shot in the air and dropped his gun waving a white flag and Aubrey is a goofy actor with a bunch of meatriders
your goat has the meatriders if drake did this he would get clowned
Cole apologized to Kendrick
Lupe apologized to Kendrick
Jay Electronica apologized to Kendrick
Macklemore apologized to Kendrick
You just can't diss Kendrick at this point. He's indestructible. His catalogue speaks for himself and after he put aside his demons on Mr.Morale you can't even diss his private life. He's THAT GUY!!!!
Imo the diss actually takes away from Mr morales impact.
On the album kendrick talked about doing away with toxic masculinity, and to stop putting him on a pedestal because it's harmful to his mental. Bro went to therapy to deal with how fame and notoriety was affecting him.
Then he turns around and disses two other widely respected MCs in the culture, which feeds into toxicity, and makes it seem like he does wanna be on that pedestal and he's proud of it.
Kendrick said on the album he was confused drake and ye reconciled, and admitted if it was him he wouldn't so he knows he needs to do more healing. So it makes sense that he wanted to diss drake and cole because he's said in his own music he still has an ego and pride that he sometimes can't get over. But just because it makes sense doesn't mean kendrick has put aside his demons.
That's just how I feel tho. Obviously I don't know the man and neither do you.
Yall clown Drake when he was the only one not scared to diss him for years
@@DesignzRUs *Sneak diss
@@MMCLLC7well he's a Gemini
I hear you but lets be honest if he's diss track was well received would he have apologized? Cole on a lot of records be saying shit on some "I wish a nigga would test him" when finally a nigga do he don't stand firm? We all knew they friends we just wanted to see 2 great lyricists have an exchange it was never that serious well at least between Cole & Kendrick, with Drake & Kendrick its a whole different story. Also didn't he diss Kanye 2 days after he was discharged from the mental institution on False Prophets? Where the apology there? I mean its no secret Kanye J. Cole's biggest idol. He's sampled his music & worked a lot with him early in his career. So he draws the line with 7 minute drill but not False Prophet, that song still on UA-cam.😂I don't want to call him a hypocrite but this don't make no sense...
I can respect the apology but this is still a really embarrassing miss step for J Cole
The people dissing tpab just have a taste issue
Weak shit idgaf
And im a cole fan
gay
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Excuses
THANK YOU. this is what I been saying. Cole literally put kendrick on, nobodies gonna "win" this war. All of these entertaining beefs had reasons behind them. It's easy to diss someone like drake he does weirdo ass Hollywood shit. Cole and kendrick are so clean, do too much for their communities, and really this was going no where.
There are so few rappers who get by on just lyricism nowadays. Eminem is in that discussion, and thats party because he reaches into that weird rap audience who wont listen to black rappers. Its about MUSIC now a days. Eminem - MGK, or T - DRAKE had reasons and entertainment about them.
People are just bored, I want albums not "beef for fun", imagine that. Thats lame. I bet you kendricks diss wasn't even gonna be hot either, it was all gonna be stupid. Everybody talking about "this is good for rap" dont listen to anything but hits. REAL MUSIC is good for rap...thats why we even praise these two so much.
Cole put kendrick on...he introduced this man to the game. imagine that lol. You cant just turn around and beef cause people told you to thats lame.
I understand why people have lost respect for Cole or whatever but I’m not surprised by this as a Cole fan. He literally said why can two legends not coexist, he wouldn’t beef for clout, and like you said he’s shown a clear respect for Kendrick for his whole career. I respect the fact that he decided to be himself regardless of the public opinion and I really don’t care because my respect for Cole has always been his authenticity. Also, this past week has been the most annoying week of “musical discourse” in a long time with fanbases just blatantly lying and downplaying the other artist.
sum of the greatests songs in rap are disses. competition makes u better. if ur gonna claim youself as the goat, u should be able to back it up. thats all it is, that was one of the main messages of kendricks diss imo. it's not about making random rappers beef for no reason. it's making rappers who are considered top tier go head to head to see who has better bars, thats all lol.
Cole did not put this man on 😂. Kendrick grinded for years. Cole no doubt helped him but to say he and he alone put Kendrick on is just factually incorrect.
@@BlkStar99It did kinda feel like living in an upside down world. I saw Cole fans and Kendrick fans in my feed saying the other artist was trash when I know for a fact that they bump both.
@@MaxMax-zo9vq I’m hearing Cole fans saying that TPAB is boring. Kendrick fans telling me that Cole has never had a verse comparable to Kendrick, he’s never gotten play in sports arenas, etc. That’s why I just listen to the music and let it rock.
I’m sorry but being peer pressured at J Cole’s age is insane
😂